Power to weight restriction

[Toaster]

The helmet rule is for those riding on beaches, I guess???

A beach is classed as road under the LT rules. Its just that they are not actively policed for obvious reasons... the doughnut shop is closer to town.

[aewilliam]

well i want a bike that can do 130 (for passing) without risking internal death.


Oh and i could have handled a 400 (given not a high powered one) pice of piss from the word go. Just becasue you cant handle one dont tarr everybody with the same brush.

Internal Death? Because you dont want to beat yourself to death inside for NOT overtaking the vehicle? (maybe even on one wheel...)

Again, as i tried to allude to in my first post, the law proposing restrictions on bike characteristics is not gonna change the ATTTUDES of bikers, however the EDUCATION bits may.

Passing at 130km - illegal
BUT can be done on many a 250cc, safely.
Again, passing, at 100kmh, a car doing sub-100, can be done on a 250cc.

So, we want to change the current law to enable novices to do illegal things?

Sounds like somethign the Labour gurrment could think of

You say "could have handled a 400 (given not a high powered one)". I believe learners wil again go for a 250+ bike that is AS HIGH POWERED AS POSSIBLE within their budget, so the idea of being able to handle a "not a high powered"400cc is never going to have to cross their minds...

Tarring everyone with the same brush?
Would you consider yourself to be an above average rider?
If so, the average & below average rider (statistically these wil make up the largest number of riders) will likely not be able to handle a non-high powered 400.

Torque issues that learners may be confronted with was an idea that did not seem to have been presented as yet in this thread...so i thought i should drop it in.

[McDuck]

Internal Death? Because you dont want to beat yourself to death inside for NOT overtaking the vehicle? (maybe even on one wheel...)

Again, as i tried to allude to in my first post, the law proposing restrictions on bike characteristics is not gonna change the ATTTUDES of bikers, however the EDUCATION bits may.

Passing at 130km - illegal
BUT can be done on many a 250cc, safely.
Again, passing, at 100kmh, a car doing sub-100, can be done on a 250cc.

So, we want to change the current law to enable novices to do illegal things?

Sounds like somethign the Labour gurrment could think of

You say "could have handled a 400 (given not a high powered one)". I believe learners wil again go for a 250+ bike that is AS HIGH POWERED AS POSSIBLE within their budget, so the idea of being able to handle a "not a high powered"400cc is never going to have to cross their minds...

Tarring everyone with the same brush?
Would you consider yourself to be an above average rider?
If so, the average & below average rider (statistically these wil make up the largest number of riders) will likely not be able to handle a non-high powered 400.

So that is why they are barring the high powered 400s dew to the power to weight ratio.
I dont feel that i am above average rider but i do feel that i could have handled a 400 cc version of the katana.







Oh by the way i ment internal death of the engine not myself.

[mark247]

Oh by the way i ment internal death of the engine not myself.

i thought you ment eternal

[McDuck]

i thought you ment eternal

lolololololol

[.produKt]

"The 70kph learner limit goes. At last."

Party at my place ?

[mark247]

"The 70kph learner limit goes. At last."

Party at my place ?

I can honestly say when i was on my learners i never once even thought about following this rule. But never once used an L plate either tho.

[.produKt]

Likewise here.
70km/h on the open from from lets say, Christchurch to hamner springs..... NO.

I did try it once, and i got beeped at, gestures and of course if the paint was any thicker on thier cage, they would have shunted me.....

Can't wait till i pick up my cbr400rr then i'll be rid of my own cage! *dance*

[Dragon]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10500855

I'm glad it won't be until 2010 because then I wouldn't be able to ride the Ninja 250 I'm getting. This will upset alot of people and will boost the new honda cbr125 sales.

I looked at the cbr when I was shopping round for bikes and decided it was to small. For my age weight and height anything smaller then a 250 isn't for me.

[MSTRS:Me]

Search is your friend http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=70332
And no, the Ninja will be fine

[Radar]

I'm glad it won't be until 2010

The road safety plan has "2010" in the title but this does not necessarily mean 2010 is when the law changes will take place.
I have looked on the official site and see nothing about implementation of the new laws:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/strategy-2010/

Some of the pages on that site have not been updated since 2004 or earlier, which seems slack.

Maybe we should try this:

Email contact: If you have a general enquiry or would like more information about Land Transport New Zealand, or if you have feedback for us, please email
info@landtransport govt nz
(I have removed the dots - would not want to increase spam, even to a gov dept).
We endeavour to reply to all correspondence within 10 working days.

[clint640]

So, we want to change the current law to enable novices to do illegal things?

No. We want to change the current law 'cos it says young Jimmy n00b can ride an RS/RGV/TZR250 but not a GB400 or DR350 & that is just plain stoopid.

Clint

[vagrant]

I was amused to see that the RVF400 is on their list of approved learner bikes, in amongst all the chock chasers.

[2fst4u]

Damnit! no ZXRs, CBRs or GPXs!? now how am i supposed to look like a rebel?

[steved]

I was amused to see that the RVF400 is on their list of approved learner bikes, in amongst all the chock chasers.

I noticed that too. I'm assuming it was a typo or something because it definitely would not be allowed.