Disbelief at what I heard

[BiK3RChiK]

Why the hell would chicks want to join a club where the guys seem so ready to argue over stuff like this? and at a stand advertising the club too! Bor-ing! Next?

[Ragingrob]

Do they ? How do you know this ? You sure don't like my opinion, probably because it differs to yours. Why are they any different ?

Ask yourself why there are no chix ? Sharpen up, guys. You are smarter than this.

DB

Hmmm let me see, when a newcomers comes up to the stand and has a query about some gear, I'd say that they probably came up to the stand with a query about some gear . Makes sense don't it?

I don't like your opinion because I don't believe that girls will wanna talk to a guy only if they also wants to fuck them. Because, you're obviously incorrect.

Who said there are no chicks? I said there may be a lack of the such, but not zero. And I'm sure I know of several reasons there being few girls thank you very much.

[CookMySock]

Blah blah blah blah, talk talk talk talk, blah-blah blah? blah-blah-blah blah blah-blah??

You want chix ? STFU.
DB

[Ragingrob]

Why the hell would chicks want to join a club where the guys seem so ready to argue over stuff like this? and at a stand advertising the club too! Bor-ing! Next?

Two, or maybe three guys had a personal argument at a sign-up stand where some of the others at the stand didn't even hear a word of it. I hardly believe that this would put girls off joining the club.

Would it not be more boring if noone gave their personal opinion when a girls inquires about helmets? "Oh yes, well it's up to you what helmet you want, go for gold "

[Ragingrob]

Blah blah blah blah, talk talk talk talk, blah-blah blah? blah-blah-blah blah blah-blah??

You want chix ? STFU.
DB

Actually I don't really care about having more chicks in the club, if they wanna join great, if they don't who cares it's not my place to dispute their choice.

I mean, if they only talk to me because they also wanna fuck me, then fuck me I'm in trouble with my girl!

[The Stranger:Me]

you probably don't know much about the products you sell" - Yeah right, have a think about that one mate.

It always makes me laugh to see a motorcyclist trying to make motorcyclists conform. Give up, it's like hearding cats, it aint going to happen.


So did you tried a 50kph face plant in both helmets?
Photos please.

[Sofa]

I have been riding six months andrew, that doesn't mean my opinons or arguing ability is less than yours, listen to your elders! Yes I do work at a motorcycle store, but that gives a second view and insights into products, I have become not only more involved in learning more about the motorcycling gear world, but have heard lots of opinons from riders vastly more experienced than you. I am just using critical thinking where I keep an open mind. I didn't downplay the danger but you didn't just overblow it, you made it seem that if you wore an open face you would die. Problem there, we can say to the public, look you might lose your face, it's a danger but the helmets themselves apart from the fact they have no chin or visor area are still good quality and will protect your head *the good quality open face helmets here*, I believe we cannot and should not say don't buy it cos it won't do shit all, that is slandering something you don't know or just have a friend of a friends story about. Like I said motorcycling is about personal choice, what we said to that girl wasn't personal choice, we were blatantly telling her some products were crap and useless when they were not. This relates to the image of the club as well, but i'll specualate on this tonight. Get it, so this thread is on open face helmets, but also more on how we should go about giving our opinion. I gave mine in a nice manner, I didn't come barreling in blurting out crap about products again that you have never even tried on. The point of this thread was not only discussion on open face helmets, but how the club should give it's opinons to the public, not on who's opinion is right. Get it. Now andrew I know your a smart guy, start using some of the engineering logic and calm we have been taught to reason with, not just pulling childish remarks and jokes.

This has nothing to do with the image of the rest of the club members, the only reason we're now involved is because you decided to start this thread. Don't bring the rest of us into it just because two club members (and I quote, with egos as big as Andrew's) decided to discuss their personal opinions in a distasteful manner and an unsuitable situation.

I think that just because your work colleagues are (in your opinion) more experienced riders than Andrew, it doesn't mean that you know more about safety of gear etc. Also it doesn't mean that Andrew's opinion is any less valid. It is a possibility that he has found out his information by talking to more experienced riders, other sources etc as well. From there he's probably formed an informed opinion.

It seems like you're saying that everyone should be entitled to their opinion and everything is personal choice. I'm sure what happened when this girl arrived at the stand (I wasn't there at the time, so cant be positive) is that you both gave your opinion and then one of you decided to start an argument, right? It is BOTH of your faults (and anyone else who was involved) that the argument started on Wednesday.

But it is your fault and yours alone, that the argument has continued here and will be continuing tonight, where innocent club members (those who weren't arguing on Wednesday) will be forced to try and avoid argument and keep the peace.

Or if it gets to be too much, we may just all have to leave...

[Chrislost]

lets go for a ride.
can test some waterproof gears and perhaps a lid or 3

[klyong82]

lets go for a ride.
can test some waterproof gears and perhaps a lid or 3

Chris has a good suggestion. Lets all go for a ride and forget all this ... I am just afraid at Strata after a few bottles of beer it's gonna become a nasty circus.....

[CookMySock]

Actually I don't really care about having more chicks in the club, if they wanna join great, if they don't who cares it's not my place to dispute their choice.

What were you doing on that stand then ? Fronting your own opinion ?

If you want to spook all the chix off, then thats cool. Us filthy old(er!) bastards will pick up your slack (pic in my profile, ok miss?). We are overworked already, but we can slip another one in

DB
p.s. eee-oops! scuse my freudian slip, oh dear I'm sprung!

[Ragingrob]

What were you doing on that stand then ? Fronting your own opinion ?

If you want to spook all the chix off, then thats cool. Us filthy old(er!) bastards will pick up your slack (pic in my profile, ok miss?). We are overworked already, but we can slip another one in

DB
p.s. eee-oops! scuse my freudian slip, oh dear I'm sprung!

Want me to fill you in on a little secret? I wasn't at the stand . Therefore no opinions were fronted by moi . And I have my own girl . And she's a member of the club .

That was four secrets.

[ital916]

I think that just because your work colleagues are (in your opinion) more experienced riders than Andrew, it doesn't mean that you know more about safety of gear etc. Also it doesn't mean that Andrew's opinion is any less valid.

Funny because that logic was used only moments agonon me by andrew, stating that my ego and riding experience and job position make my opinons wrong. I'm not starting a fight sophie, at strata i'm not going to be shouting and ranting and raving. It's funny if you acutally try to get the club talking about things that are club related *yes clubs have rules, and codes of behaviour*, then everyone gets up in arms. If you feel intimidated or annoyed then i'm sorry sophie, I'm not getting angry at anyone, and definately not you. If you do decide to piss off tonight for whatever reason though, I won't be crying a river over it *though I do enjoy your company*. Fini.

[Macstar]

Crickey! I took a week off KB and have made my way through this thread. Two things:

1. Exams are on their way for uni students...
2. Dush - it's been too long since your last ride

I reckon there's a bit of misguided stress-for-passion in this thread - but that's just my opinion!

[Hanne]

I'll talk on this thread more tomorrow at the chiller. Your opinion was stop stirring shit up to me, when I was the one being stirred up haha.

What I said was that it was an overreaction to start talking about company reps coming down to the quad and suing people because they didn't like what was being said.

[Squiggles]

I reckon there's a bit of misguided stress-for-passion in this thread - but that's just my opinion!

I reckon this is all your fault for buying a honda