When bikers kill bikers.

[oldrider]

Read this slowly........

What about if someone else (someone whose job it is to make rules and regulations) labels you as such?

(This is like trying to teach algebra to a special needs class sometimes).

Shit you are an arrogant pontificating son of a bitch Katman but feel free to continue to express yourself.

I enjoy a good laugh. John.

[Hitcher]

(This is like trying to teach algebra to a special needs class sometimes).

Don't be a patronising oaf. It does you little credit.

You outline a problem and offer no solution. If you want to martyr yourself for a cause yet offer nothing tangible, please don't be surprised if the majority of your audience doesn't get what it is you are on about.

Please remind me again. What exactly is the problem that you are so hell-bent on fixing?

[Katman]

Please remind me again. What exactly is the problem that you are so hell-bent on fixing?

I am trying to ensure that we don't ever see the day that the government seriously attempt to legislate us off the road.



(And "patronising oaf" is a tad rich coming from you).

[Ixion]

Then you must be much younger than I thought. They have already tried it, more than once.

Fortunately, in those days , bikers were a bolder and braver bunch than today, and we fought back. Did you miss the reports of the mass meeting at the Auckland Town Hall, of the 'ride-ins' , of the mass ride to Parliament ?

I have not the slightest doubt that they will try again, and probably at no great remove. Whether they succeed or not will depend on whether the bikers of today have the balls of their predecessors. Or whether they prefer to roll over and wimp out.

Governments are bullies. Always. And bullies pick on the minority. The child who is bullied and bashed in the schoolyard does not receive his bruises because he deserves them. He receives them because he is perceived to be weak and a safe target.

The only way to deal with a bully is to stand up to him and fight back.

[Drogen Omen]

When bikers kill bikers.

That sounds like a good tv program... hehehe

kinda like When Animals Attack...

[Hitcher]

I am trying to ensure that we don't ever see the day that the government seriously attempt to legislate us off the road.

And what, pray tell, is your strategy? (assuming for the purposes of continuing a discussion that such an eventuality is conceivable)

[Katman]

And what, pray tell, is your strategy? (assuming for the purposes of continuing a discussion that such an eventuality is conceivable)

FFS Hitcher. Have you only just noticed my name on KB?

All along I have been trying to get people to take a good hard look at themselves and ask whether they are part of the problem or not.

I'm not trying to change people - I'm trying to get people to change themselves.

[Hitcher]

All along I have been trying to get people to take a good hard look at themselves and ask whether they are part of the problem or not.

Like that will work. This is Kiwi Biker. Everybody's technique and riding standards are exemplary. Nobody here is part of the problem. No wonder people disagree with you.

[Katman]

(assuming for the purposes of continuing a discussion that such an eventuality is conceivable)

Who would have ever thought a government would have the audacity to pass legislation telling us how we can and can't discipline our own children?

[Hitcher]

Who would have ever thought a government would have the audacity to pass legislation telling us how we can and can't discipline our own children?

Nobody wants to own up to being a child beater. There's a bit of a difference between that and something that puts ones own health and safety at risk more so than that of others.

[oldrider]

FFS Hitcher. Have you only just noticed my name on KB?

All along I have been trying to get people to take a good hard look at themselves and ask whether they are part of the problem or not.

I'm not trying to change people - I'm trying to get people to change themselves.

Cut the crap and focus on your message. (nothing wrong with the message, it's your packaging)

The art of diplomacy is: "Telling some cunt where to go and having them look forward to the trip"

Try being a little bit more "diplomatic" if your message is any good, it will sell it's self. John.

[AlBundy]

At least I knew I wanted a V-twin that wasn't a full on sports bike and would be more happy to cruise along than a il4 that encourages you to wind them out to get the grin factor.

What a load of shit!

ANY motorcycle is only as fast as the rider is prepared to turn the throttle.

The fact that you are riding the torque at lower rpm vs revving the motor more to get the same performance, sounds like a way to convince yourself you're not doing anything wrong...
I'd hazzard a guess you probably ride quicker using the torque than you would have if you had to rev an inlinefour...

[AlBundy]

Even if I am only cruising along at 110kph it still beats being in a car any day.

POT-KETTLE!!!

Lets get this straight.

I have never said "DO NOT EVER RIDE OVER THE SPEED LIMIT"..

Aaah, but if you want to talk the talk, you must walk the walk.

You cannot be all high and mighty on the subject, then be hypocrytical and do the opposite.

After all, this is about public perception, you are speeding and that same group of people sitting on the speed limit, is going to see you passing them and disappear into the distance...

[saul]

Let me guess - you typed that whole post without the use of a dictionary?

Bravo (except for the spelling mistakes).

Giggle yep and I had one too many for the road. Apologies for the bad language

[dipshit]

After all, this is about public perception, you are speeding and that same group of people sitting on the speed limit, is going to see you passing them and disappear into the distance...

This thread is about motorcyclists killing themselves every other weekend.

Slowing down in the sense of dropping it down from 9/10 to 8/10, or from 8/10 to 7/10 riding may help you live longer.