Pack mentality

[Tank]

but then the site gets turned in to be over modded, and we get cryed at cause peoples post go to pd.

Why should some be targeted if they are doing there best with information they have(at least they trying to help, be it with wrong information).

Maybe should take a harder line to people more quickly who abuse people as well?

I would hate to be a MOD - you cannot win in the majority of cases - despite only trying to do the right thing.

Yep - I think you are right on both counts (and yes - I know that I'm one of the fuckwits you referred to about giving shit to DB all the time - although for the record never actually TXT'ed or phoned etc - (I believe thats unaceptable)).

In the first instance - Clamp down on the cause of the issues. Often that is someone being a idiot with their advise - you know HIDS full beam 24 x 7, offering advise like this to a noob who had caused an accident:

"Right, any damage to anyone else ? Any liability ? If so, deny everything and refuse to discuss the accident with anyone. Disappear into the long grass, and say nothing. Fix your own bike with your own money, and let your sore knee mend itself etc. If anyone wants to knock on your door and talk about the incident, tell them they are at the wrong place. If the feds turn up, tell them u dunno jack about that, and shut the door and go back to what you were doing. Letter from some insurance company demanding payment? bew hew hew, chuck it in the bin. Life goes on. Dont FFS admit the whole thing to the feds in the hope things will be better.. "

and who can ever forget the infamous "take it International" thread.

By clamping down on behaviour there is no reason for people to attack anyone.

IF, after the cause has been addressed and people are picking on folk - yes - come down harder on the 'bullies'. (and yes - again I know thats me when it came to one single poster).

In general - I think that the mods DO the best they can - and given the nature of the site and its users get the balance not to bad. (says me sitting here with a ton of infractions for abuse - of which I agree I deserve all of them (except one).

[vifferman]

some people are old and set in there ways and never learn

But if you are old and too set in your way so be it.

It's not just being old and set in your ways. It's about habits, and your willingness to learn from mistakes, consider criticism (and accept it if valid), and how stubborn some people are. Some never admit fault because they're arrogant and cocksure, and strangely/conversely, some people don't accept criticism because they're insecure and don't want to admit their faults.

Some people will never learn/grow up/listen/take advise UNTIL they want to themselfs.

Eggs Zachary.
For those people, you simply cannot bash things into their skulls, because they don't accept the truth until they think they've discovered it for themselves.

[Oscar]

By your statement, you imply most people DON'T ride like this?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=185

I didn't imply anything.
You said:

You'll find that your target audience is a very small one (the naughty kids). The vast majority of people on this site behave (the good kids).

How do you know how big his audience is?
How do you know that the vast majority behave?

[MIXONE]

The pack mentality is alive and well on kb and must have scared off many a noob before they had a chance to HTFU.
Me?I thought it was because I've mellowed out over the years but I've since found out it's because I don't give a shit.

[Ixion]

Its not that someone 'speaks out' on this behaviour. Its just that he never shuts up.

Perhaps if people stopped crashing he might shut up?

[short-circuit]

The long established "pack" must be a bunch of no life social rejects who live on the internet.

[AlBundy]

How do you know how big his audience is?
How do you know that the vast majority behave?

I believe you've taken 'behave' out of context. It was directed at Katman and I'm sure he'll know what I meant...

[Maha]

The long established "pack" must be a bunch of no life social rejects who live on the internet.

Care to stand up and Govern that position??

[Oscar]

Let's leave this thread be... If you are SO concerned about it, start another thread...

I just found it interesting that in a thread about pack mentality, you claimed to know what the pack thought...

[AlBundy]

I just found it interesting that in a thread about pack mentality, you claimed to know what the pack thought...

See my edit of the previous post...

[Oscar]

See my edit of the previous post...

Oh, OK.
I was having more fun torturing some punk on another thread about his grammar, anyway.

So how's that 690 working out?

[Mental Trousers]

There's only 2 people who can sinbin anyone for no reason and that's me and Spank. Protective Custody falls into the no reason category so it's not an option for the Mods.

People bring things on themselves but that doesn't mean the KB clown pack should give them what they deserve. After all, whether they ask for it or not the clowns are still harassing/abusing the individual eh.

[short-circuit]

Care to stand up and Govern that position??

I think that statement speaks for itself - and besides I have a life (dinner to eat, Coronation Street to watch, dog to run, stretching, hot chocolate, shower, shag the wife go to sleep)

[The Stranger:Me]

Is it 'right' for members of a community to sit back and silently allow others to promote a manner of riding which gets members of said community killed at an alarming rate?

Shit, that sounds serious.
Best out them now - who is guilty of these heinous crimes?

[Tank]

I think that statement speaks for itself - and besides I have a life (dinner to eat, Coronation Street to watch, dog to run, stretching, hot chocolate, shower, shag the wife go to sleep)

ummmm You have a 'life' - but you're off to watch Coronation Street?