Give Way rule

**notme** · 19th February 2009, 16:28

Maybe we should start a thread for "dumbarse and or illegal things road users routinely do" .....

For example - people just don't know how to use frickin' roundabouts.....

And I have had many people relate the pearl of wisdom that "you don't have to indicate in carparks".

**pixc** · 19th February 2009, 16:52

I know how I have come to my incorrect conclusions.
I have always thought main rd has right-of-way over side roads. So all roads and driveways are equal unless sign posted otherwise right?

**Ixion** · 19th February 2009, 16:54

Not since 1948. So I might have an excuse for thinking that, but you don't. You've been playing around in that tardis again, haven't you

**MarkH** · 19th February 2009, 16:55

Originally Posted by pixc

Thanks pzkpfw.
I honestly had it wrong all these years. I still dont like it and I cant recall ever having any issues with this type of junction. So this applies to any driveway? Private or public?

Private driveways often mean the car coming out of the driveway ALWAYS has right of way - well if they are only 1 lane anyway.

Originally Posted by allun

And I have had many people relate the pearl of wisdom that "you don't have to indicate in carparks".

Why indicate - that would only let the bastards know what you are about to do. We don't believe is such things here in Auckland! Obviously even if you normally would indicate, when driving around a carpark you should avoid courtesy and not indicate, because courtesy is bad mmmkay!

**pixc** · 19th February 2009, 16:59

Originally Posted by Ixion

Not since 1948. So I might have an excuse for thinking that, but you don't. You've been playing around in that tardis again, haven't you

Not the tardis, Ive been using that DeLorean with the flux capacitor thingie

**Max Preload** · 19th February 2009, 17:06

Originally Posted by YAMASAKI

not as i understand it.. they are on a give way. the vehicle turning left isn't.

I missed the bit about the line (white for Give Way, yellow for Stop). I shall check the regulations, but I believe without a sign, it's meaningless.

**JacksColdSweat** · 19th February 2009, 17:16

Originally Posted by pixc

This is a scan from 2006 Road Code for MB. I dont like the last picture. Isn't a supermarket entrance a driveway?

found online version here too. 8th picture down.
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...rsections.html

"Bless me Father for I have sinned...."

I'm honestly astounded - and yet now that I see it of course it's correct - "give way to the right" - how many thousands of times have I got this wrong in 20 years of driving...

I feel like I need to go do some penance now

And to think I got so mad at the d*ckheads who went on about that roundabout signalling rules "changing" when I've been obeying them to the letter for the last twenty years...

and slowing down for stopped school buses...

**Starky307** · 19th February 2009, 18:06

When I sat my 6F the testing officer made me go through about 4 uncontrolled intersections during the test. I tried to apply the right hand rule but never got a chance as the other vehicle (vehicle A in the picture) would swing around into my road.

I asked him about the right hand rule and he said there is no point pulling out in front of someone so that you are in the "right" when it comes to the road code.

Better to just let them go around in front of you he said.

**Sharry** · 19th February 2009, 18:29

Originally Posted by pixc

Thanks pzkpfw.
I honestly had it wrong all these years. I still dont like it and I cant recall ever having any issues with this type of junction. So this applies to any driveway? Private or public?

I had that wrong also. I was under the usumption that anyone entering a main road from a side road or driveway had to give way to the traffic on the main road.

Sooooo there is more to it than just giving way to everything that is bigger than me

**mowgli** · 19th February 2009, 20:08

At the risk of hyjacking this thread there's something else I've wondered about along similar lines. When a side road joins a road that has yellow lines down the center, there's usually a break in the yellow lines through the intersection. This kinda makes sense since the yellow lines mean don't cross and if you want to turn right you clearly need to cross them.

Now consider you're pulling out of a driveway just down the road. There is no break in the yellow lines. Can you legally turn right or are you supposed to turn left and do a U-turn further down the road after the yellow lines end?

**Usarka** · 19th February 2009, 20:13

I take great delight in pretending to ram dumbarses and flicking the bird and some abuse when they don't obey the road rules in such situations.

They're usually the type of people who hassle asian drivers. Or they're asian.

PS - HTF did all you jokers get a license?????

**JacksColdSweat** · 20th February 2009, 07:07

Originally Posted by Usarka

PS - HTF did all you jokers get a license?????

Actually now that you mention that I got my car license in West Auckland and when I cast my mind back I only had to turn right once in the whole test...

Every other turn was a left hand turn... and there were about 7 of them... that's the route they make you drive...

How weird is that?

**Max Preload** · 20th February 2009, 10:08

Originally Posted by Max Preload

I missed the bit about the line (white for Give Way, yellow for Stop). I shall check the regulations, but I believe without a sign, it's meaningless.

I stand by this statement. I can find no reference in the relevant regulations to limit lines being used without appropriate signage having any significance. That is to say, limit lines supplement signage, but alone they signify nothing.

**Badjelly** · 20th February 2009, 10:34

Originally Posted by Max Preload

I stand by this statement. I can find no reference in the relevant regulations to limit lines being used without appropriate signage having any significance. That is to say, limit lines supplement signage, but alone they signify nothing.

I agree. Furthermore, the use of limit lines is very inconsistent. I have seen it suggested on KB that stop signs are always accompanied by a) 2 lines or b) yellow lines. Neither is consistently true. All you can say is that most Give Way and Stop signs are accompanied by some sort of line across the road.

At the entrance to my workplace's driveway (which is a public entrance and therefore an intersection) the management have seen fit to draw a line across the driveway, but no sign. So right-turning traffic going into the driveway still has to give way to right-turning traffic coming out. But you'd be a bloody idiot to rely on that. (I must talk to them about that. The sensible thing to do would be to add a Stop sign.)