The levies. It's all about the levies. Time to take stock

[bogan]

Christmas itself. It's all about giving (not taking).
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Go with the christmas theme, have biker everywhere go to ACC/National offices etc, and deliver the customary lump of coal, as they have been very naughty. One coal per biker, get other groups into it as well, would make a good media story I reckon.

[Mom]

No newspapers on the 25th

I think we also want it to be something that gives bikers themselves a buzz. A fell good factor over Xmas, when otherwise disillusionment and -its-too-hardedness- may set in

I had in mind organising a park in/ride in back at the museum in Auckland. My thoughts were that we could all meet at points at the end of the motorways and have seperate mass rides converging in one spot. My apologies for not doing something this past weekend, I have been distracted somewhat by what happened. I cant do anything next weekend Maha has his annual coast to coast on Saturday and I have organised a street party here to lay some ghosts of broken community to rest after the debacle that is our lives at the moment.

It would mean that someone would have to step up and lead up the group at the top of the North Western and the bottom of the Southern and time it so we all start converging at the same time. We will take the North. Bring a picnic and lets have lunch on the grass below the warmemorial, a bit if Xmas biker fellowship if you will and if someone wants to stand up and saya few words all the better.

What do you say to that?

[Ixion]

Go with the christmas theme, have biker everywhere go to ACC/National offices etc, and deliver the customary lump of coal, as they have been very naughty. One coal per biker, get other groups into it as well, would make a good media story I reckon.

No good at the weekend, nobody there

[bogan]

No good at the weekend, nobody there

who said weekend? can do whenever is best for numbers/media impact

[Ixion]

Not easy for people to get time off work at this time of year.

And evening has the same issue - no-one there to see the lump of coal.

[bogan]

Not easy for people to get time off work at this time of year.

And evening has the same issue - no-one there to see the lump of coal.

nobody sees santa either though, but they find his gifts in the morn

[flyingcrocodile46]

You really want to give something and show a real community face for bikers.

Put your money where your mouths are and do something meaningful (with massive impact and respect for bikers). Show everyone that you are not just being self serving debt dodgers. Make a political statement.

I believe it is likely to be more damaging to the Goverment if it is the govt that are portrayed as the bad guys rather than just one delinquent sacrificial minister.

One idea that I can think of that is very relevant and would really make the Govt look bad in the public eye without necessarily compromising our position. Make an official press release to state the main reasons (and there are soooo many to choose from) why you believe The Govt are missleading everyone and that Smith is a lying sack of shit. Take the opportunity to table some of the many statistical anomalies that have been discussed here and at other forums. Present them as damning evidence where ever Smiths own figures and statements are in conflict with the govt's own data and that of other credible agencies. Also leverage ACC's $.5 billion gain over investment return forecasts).

Make a statement that it isn't just about bikers simply looking to duck their fair share (with 'no fault' emphasis). Suggest that there is no way that the Govt is going to unjustifiably shaft EVERYONE with thousand$ of extra levies for each person while simultaneously and ruthlessly slashing payment cover for essential support services such as counseling for rape victims

Say that we would sooner set up and maintain a trust fund to pay for those services where declined by ACC. I'm guessing but I doubt it would be a third of what they want out of us collectively.

Then kick back, have a nice holiday period while planning a Jan/Feb Demonstration

Anyhoo that is just one thought. Doubtless there are some Einsteins out there that have many much more appealing ideas.

[davereid]

Not easy for people to get time off work at this time of year.

And evening has the same issue - no-one there to see the lump of coal.

Sacks of coal then, emptied all over the doorway. Mixed with diesel and fertiliser... oops wrong forum ;-)

[Pixie]

It's all gone a bit quiet.

That's not necessarily a bad thing (it's very interesting that Mr Smith refuses to make ANY comment)

Be veeeewy quiet...the bikers will go away.....

[retro asian]

What about a beach party?

Bikers go to selected popular beaches in each region.
Auckland/Northshore could go to Long bay for example.

Then have some fun things to do, like a sausage sizzle...tug o war...
...twister (Honda riders would enjoy this)... invite the public to participate.


It will be hot, so bikinis and boardies are compulsory wearing underneath our leathers.

[taff1954]

......, could be a Christmas card, ....

A little off the wall, perhaps, but... print, fold, deliver to your local MP's office. Heaps. One at a time, by motorcycle.

[davereid]

That rocks mate... emailing my MP now for an appointment to deliver it.

Now who knows Mr. Judges home address ? I'd like to deliver him one too.

[NONONO]

A little off the wall, perhaps, but... print, fold, deliver to your local MP's office. Heaps. One at a time, by motorcycle.

Is it just the drugs or is Santa upside down?
Oh, wait...Nah,
Please send folding instructions

[scissorhands]

What about a beach party?

Bikers go to selected popular beaches in each region.
Auckland/Northshore could go to Long bay for example.

Then have some fun things to do, like a sausage sizzle...tug o war...
...twister (Honda riders would enjoy this)... invite the public to participate.


It will be hot, so bikinis and boardies are compulsory wearing underneath our leathers.

Ride the Wild Surf
Beach Blanket Bingo
How to Stuff A Wild bikini

wtf? cant believe others like those movies too? kinda batmanish

[Mom]

The bullshit levy increases proposed for bikers have given the impetus for this campaign. I personally believe this is far more than the levies. While us bikers have managed to keep this in the media eye so far, we are not alone and we have to harness the other support out there. This is far past the levies as far as I am concerned. They are attempting to use us as a smoke screen here. I am not fooled for a moment, though I fear there are many out there that are.

I am against levy increases that are supported by complete lies. I am against the slow but steady erosion of the Woodhouse Principles. I want to get out there and let people know that this is bigger than the bikers! We have good support so far, I am not about to let that support lie.

Yes this is about levies, but it is also about the bigger picture. We can not cannonise this issue to the bikers against unfair levy hikes.

I am thankful that I am a biker that can also look past my increased levies, my mission is to attempt to let other people know about what is happening.