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    Who remebers kick starts??

    The kick start opera.

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    REMEMBER THEM??? Ive still got one...
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    Was a time that if you couldn't kick start a bike you didn't ride.
    Could do with some more of that.
    Electric starts are for pussys

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    My old man used to have an army Indian as a farm bike. He used to park it in a low roofed shed, and he reckoned that the Indian had a habit of kicking back and throwing him violently into the rafters.
    Old bikers always ask me why my bike doesn't have a kick start- would it be possible to kick start a 1 litre in line four?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrat
    Electric starts are for pussys
    Yep. Separates the men from the boys.

    Full drill for those too young to have done it

    Retard ignition
    Tickle the carb
    Free the clutch
    Stand on kickstart lever and take it down until it hits compression.
    Let kickstart come back up to top
    Lift exhaust valve
    Take kickstart through one complete stroke with valve open
    Allow kickstart to come back up
    Kick start **HARD** . With **ALL** your weight on the lever (one foot on kick start other off the ground, kicking with all the strength of your back and leg. And whatever you do don't let the bike fall over at this point because you have no foot on the ground, so you ahve to balance it)
    Absorb impact when kickstart hits compresion (like kicking a brick wall)
    Repeat until it starts
    *REMEMBER TO ADVANCE THE IGNITION*

    Bah. Electric starts, just push a wussy button. Wusses. See what you miss out on nowadays. Bet half of you don't even understand half the above process. (PT). Though the guys with big trailies I guess still have to do the full drill

    Yeah, I've still got a kick start bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrat
    Electric starts are for pussys
    I've always found a bottle of champagne and a bunch of flowers worked better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB
    Old bikers always ask me why my bike doesn't have a kick start- would it be possible to kick start a 1 litre in line four?
    Sure would. I've kick started a square four often enough and I reckon an inline would be easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB
    would it be possible to kick start a 1 litre in line four?
    Very easy. easier than a 250 single. thats all you're compressing at one time and have added momentum of a heavier crank.
    I had a SR500 single and a T140 Bonneville, they were much harder to kick over than a Z1000 - I could kick start one of them with me dick

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    No need to brag eh 'big " Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB
    Old bikers always ask me why my bike doesn't have a kick start- would it be possible to kick start a 1 litre in line four?

    yes it is,seen it done with a Z1000 Kawasaki,I think the Z1R came with a kickstart lever under the seat for emergency use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave
    Very easy. easier than a 250 single. thats all you're compressing at one time and have added momentum of a heavier crank.
    I had a SR500 single and a T140 Bonneville, they were much harder to kick over than a Z1000 - I could kick start one of them with me dick
    Yeah, I reckon a 1000 cc four would only be like a 500 twin, and they were easy enough. And the original CB750 four was a cinch to kickstart, didn't even need the technique, just bang it down.

    Pisses me off actually that they don't put kickstarts on now. I hate being reliant on the electric starter. Crank handles on cars, too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha
    yes it is,seen it done with a Z1000 Kawasaki,I think the Z1R came with a kickstart lever under the seat for emergency use.
    Even with 12:1 compression?
    Bet a high compression V-Twin would be nigh on impossible! Test rode a VTR once. Had a dead battery, they forgot I was coming in to test it so they jerried it up and said "don't stall it". Fuggen thing just died while waiting for a green light, so I thought I'd try push starting it even though I knew it might be hopeless. It was still locking the back wheel in top gear.
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    I remember the angst of kickstarting an AG100 farmbike where the swivelling footpeg thingee on the top of the kickstart lever had long since disappeared...
    "Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB
    Even with 12:1 compression?
    Bet a high compression V-Twin would be nigh on impossible! ...
    Actually I think V twins were easier because there was only one cylinder at a time and the other one gave a good flywheel effect.Though the only V twin I've tried it on was a Vincent.

    I kick started a Manx Norton that was 11:1 compression and a 500cc single, so a 12:1 1000cc four should be easy enough.

    More important than compression I think is flywheel weight, Noone could actually kick a big single through the compression stroke. You had to use the flywheel effect, so the more flywheel (either crank, or another cylinder) the easier it is. I think any multi cylinder is going to be easy compared to a big single. And come to think of it, I think that is confirmed by the fact the the Vincent Comet was a hell of a lot harder to start than the V twin, with the same cyclinder size
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    bloody sr250 and it's dodgy battery that doesn't work in the damn cold, it sucks push starting a bike at 6:30 in the morning!!! might get a new battery for it one of these days, it's got a hole for a kickstarter, just no peg thing to actually kick on

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