Beginners' guide to runners

[Skyryder]

Isn't it compararable to say posting a thread called "Beginners quide to making P", acknowledging it's illegal to make or have in your possession P, highlighting why you shouldn't make or use P, but then posting the recepie?

The analogy should have been the pros and cons of P and it's usage.

Once you post the recipee you are giving the ingrediants and methods for the production of P.

That's another ball game in a different park.


Skyryder

[Kornholio]

Actually more Police resources could be better off trying to catch the mofos making and selling that P crap than chasing poor ol innocent motorbikecyclists than may be doing a tad over the speedlimit :/

Food for thought?

* Im going to sing the DOOM song...*

[madboy]

Well written reply. Thanks for the perspective from the "other side".

Yeah, I thought DM50 did pretty well too.

[Fatjim]

Fuck there's a lot of egoes on this site.

Ta for the inside DM50. Post of the day, and of this thread, except maybe Madboys replay to NC.

BTW, can you pass onto your buddies that someone riding a sportsbike in leathers is doing a runner because he doesn't want to lose his license, he's just riding it LIKE he stole it.

[GIXser]

I think him doing 200+kms past a n00b ride (that he started the ride with) with the cops intoe proves that he's a wanka. Oh and on the next night did the samething. But there was a police road block waiting for us all. Because of him. Suprise suprise.
I think we can all draw enough attention to ourselves on the road without Madforthecock pissing the cops of just to have his weekly ejaculation in his pink panties. No one likes riding with him!

if infact that happenend , i agree doing silly shit like that is simply unnessesary and plain stupid,

[Kornholio]

Not really if you read my post on the previous page, it explains why pursuits are prioritised by Police.

Yeah sorta but there were too many words making way too much sense...


Oooh new Chili Peppers vid on C4

[ZorsT]

I've read all the posts in this thread. Pro's Anti's and even one from a guy who made his decision without bothering to read the thread starter. My first reaction after reading a couple of lines was 'another load of self serving bullshit' but I persevered and read the whole thing. Personally I see nothing there that would induce anyone to do a runner. On the contrary, it gives a dire warning of the consequences. In view of some of the extreme posts i began to think that Madboys reputation may have preceded him. What, for instance, would the reaction have been if the same thread starter had been posted by someone like Ixion, Oldrider. or one of the other more respected riders. Would it have been read as a dire warning or a workshop manual on doing runners. I've seen far worse threads.

you summed up my thoughts. The red is a part that stood out for me.

Ixion said way back at the start that everyone would run if the conditions were right. Everyone has their price, so to speak.
This is very true.

A "how to" thread like this may just sway an unstable or inexpericienced rider to do a runner.

As an "unstable" and inexpericienced rider, I think I am qualified to say that I highly doubt this thread will ever be the straw to break the camels back. This thread wouldn't be near said camel.
The things that sway people like me to do runners are tougher road laws.
Plain and simple.

Tougher traffic laws lower everyones "price"

For me, this thread has done two things:
1) Made me realise that a runner isn't an easy thing to get away with
2) made me realise there are some morons out there.

[Paul in NZ]

made me realise there are some morons out there.

pssst! Don't mean to alarm you but.... There are a few in here as well!

[The_Dover]

Where?

All I can see is a nice bunch of bikers............

[Paul in NZ]

Where?

All I can see is a nice bunch of bikers............

Now look here... If you are going to feed me lines like that I cannot continue to resist!

[Freakshow]

If there are any KB members left who have not yet posted either a positive or negative view to this thread - no sitting on the fence, please do so now before it runs off. Like Whitetrash said, it's great to have a thread that's atleast sparked some interest for a change. Been getting a bit boring lately.

Well then my 2c is I think it needs a few more pointers for us out here on 250s

If there are people out there that get off playing with cops then thats fine with me, just remember that the rest of us are not interested in playing and not interested in games that have life or death cards.

[cowpoos]

Well then my 2c is I think it needs a few more pointers for us out here on 250s

If there are people out there that get off playing with cops then thats fine with me, just remember that the rest of us are not interested in playing and not interested in games that have life or death cards.

nice signiture

[sugilite:Me]

I've been keeping an eye on this thread for a while now (senior runners lack of comments are noted and reasons why understood)
I do not know the thread starter, but I have met some of Wellie crew he has ridden with (hey guys!)

People who know me or rode in Wellies in the same era I did know I "may" be just about over qualified to talk on this subject, but don't look for any old war stories here.
I do know this, The near 40 yr old version of me would scream out "WTF are you doing" at the late teens early twenties version of me in some but not all the situations that stupid brainless idiot got himself in and out off.
I also know that the younger version of me would have ignored most of what the older version has to say!
I met a few people like myself back then too. Only ONE survived like me, the others are DEAD. Two died while doing runners in suburban areas and the others whilst doing crazy stuff also in suburban areas. I don't think these guys got the 25 virgins that the suicide bombers on foot get!
None I can remember died on quiet country roads.
I'd also like to add, serious drugs and or alcohol were involved in all the cases I knew of. I consider myself very lucky that I was so involved in riding from a young age, I never had time or money to get into those things, as for sure I'd be dead as well.

I feel running in suburban areas is a dangerous and selfish thing to do. The only times I ever rode in them was commuting and riding out off to get to the "good" roads anyways.
It got to the point with me, that I made the decision to stop riding on the roads as the attention and associated paranoia killed a lot of the enjoyment I got whilst riding, so I went to the racetrack to get my jollies, and yes to a large point grow up too.

I feel the author of the original post has come a long way quite quickly in his thinking about runners from when he originally started doing them to now. I guess time will tell if his actions follow the new line of thinking.
I feel there is a certain amount of "look at me I know enough about runners to do a SA about it" but for the most part it is a balanced argument for and against.
For those enjoying this feisty topic, it may pay to keep in mind that only someone like this guy is truly qualified to start a thread like this. (If he was a cop as well, maybe the post would have had perfect balance lol) With this in mind I feel he kept the glory part down to a fairly self controlled level.

The only other comments I'd like to make is regarding a policeman on this forum making judgments on prior posts he read without reading this one, and even others mentioning this one may be a little different, still did not read it (so he says)
I'd just like to say, heck man, I hope not all officers barely skim read the alleged facts and assume the rest! I realize this may be a bit unfair as you are not on duty whilst on KB, er or are you?
I do have a lot of respect for the work police do, to see the dark underside of humanity on a daily basis and keep ones sanity takes a special sort of person. Kudos to you all, and that goes to Ambos, A and E staff and Firecrews as well.

[imdying]

I feel the author of the original post has come a long way quite quickly in his thinking about runners from when he originally started doing them to now.

I think that posting it at all refutes that

[sAsLEX]

I think that posting it at all refutes that

most of this infamous post of his actually puts people off doing runners by outlining all the shit that can happen as a result, maybe he is starting to take another look at his actions...