Auckland University bike parks

[twinkle]

There is a proposal to make Alfred Street a pedestrian mall, probably only open to busses and cyclists. No mention of what their plans are regarding the motorcycle parks which are one whole side of the street. If any of you are going to be at the university next year then I suggest you make a quick submission in case they forget about us and remove our parking.

http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/auck...fredstreet.asp

I'll see if I can track down who is in charge and have a word in their ear as well

[Ixion]

Submission lodged

Alfred St is presently used extensively for motorcycle parking. Removal of that facility would detrimentally affect a transport mode that is congestion and environmentally friendly, as well as being economically important to many studants.

The proposal makes no mention of any ameliorative measures to deal with this problem.

Also, if the street is be usable by cycles and buses it should be usable by motorcycles, in accordance with central government and LTSA policy that motorcycles shoule be permitted in bus lanes .

I'lll also get BRONZ to put one in.

[Posh Tourer :P]

I also... errr lodged (sounds painful)... a submission. Though I get the feeling it wasn't as erudite as the previous post....

[Gremlin]

lodged as well... it was a lot of fun racing down the street at around 60, and making them fellow students jump for it

Even getting the ones deaf from earphone devices jumping was just a feather in my cap. And the echo's from the surround walls were awesome

[xwhatsit]

Why did they remove the pedestrian overbridge? I was out of the country when they did that, I can't remember it ever being there either. That would've been a great thing to have, we're always dodging cars and buses trying to get across that road. Luckily it's all low-speed traffic, but those courier vans are fucking dangerous, I've seen them nearly take out pedestrians and even bikers going uphill in that little motorbike lane they have going against traffic.

There's shitloads of other bike parks though, it must be remembered. Symonds St and the parallel one that Alfred St connects it to, both have lots. But it might get pretty crowded, especially now that some complete smacktard decided to put up the price of bus tickets (I'm expecting even more scooters next year).

[Phurrball]

There's shitloads of other bike parks though, it must be remembered. Symonds St and the parallel one that Alfred St connects it to, both have lots. But it might get pretty crowded, especially now that some complete smacktard decided to put up the price of bus tickets (I'm expecting even more scooters next year).

The park on Princes St isn't exactly huge, and neither is the one opposite Law school in Eden Cres (Symonds St is somewhat bigger). If parking was disallowed on Alfred St, one or other of those parks would need to be doubled in size at least - probably the one on Princes St IMHO.

I don't know about the pedestrian overbridge - but there's a few underpasses.

FWIW I've added a submission too:

In principle I support the development of Alfred St as a pedestrian mall, however, no mention is made of the fate of the many motorcycle parks that Alfred St offers.

The number of motorcyles and especially scooters appears to be ever-increasing, and an increase in bus fares may exacerbate this trend. Should motorcycle parking be disallowed on Alfred St, an equitable increase in motorcycle parking in another close location (such as Princes St) will be needed.

Due to my outlying home being poorly serviced by public transport, the huge volume of single-occupant private car traffic, and the exorbitant cost of car parking in the campus area I commute by motorcycle.

Travel to university by motorcycle or scooter saves time, space, and has a lesser environmental and aesthetic impact on the university than travel to university by private car, and must not be discouraged by decreasing the available parking space.

If someone was feeling suitably motivated, a few posters up on the bike-park trees might move a few more to submit?

[Gremlin]

The overbridge on Alfred Street was removed around 2000/2001 I think (just before I went to uni). I think it was removed during the renovations of the general library (which got an external and foyer revamp), and it used to link the first floor library with the quad (near where the ATM's are now).

The 2 underpasses on Symonds street are boring, its much more fun standing on the double yellows, and feeling the vehicles go past on either side - even having to stand side on, so your backpack didn't get hit

[xwhatsit]

...I don't know about the pedestrian overbridge - but there's a few underpasses...

Underpasses go under Symonds St. There's none that I can think of that go under Albert St.

[Phurrball]

Underpasses go under Symonds St. There's none that I can think of that go under Albert St.

Ah, yeah, you're quite right *Phurrball must process information properly before replying*

It does get vaguely dicey dodging cars, busses, and the odd speeding Gremlin when crossing Alfred St.

[Gremlin]

It does get vaguely dicey dodging cars, busses, and the odd speeding Gremlin when crossing Alfred St.

No no, I'm not trying to cross the street, I'm the one making people dodge MEEEEEE, and you don't do it around the whole hours, so its quieter.

Its only really dodgy because people think they have right of way, are listening to ipods/on mobiles etc, and don't hear traffic. Its surprisingly dangerous being a pedestrian, and listening to something, as you tend to be less aware (one sense is dulled). My mother almost hit one, who was completely unaware, and randomly ran across the road

Alfred is worst around 5-6pm, when it becomes totally jammed. Anyhoo, I'm out of that hateful institution... and in the real world

[Phurrball]

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Its only really dodgy because people think they have right of way, are listening to ipods/on mobiles etc, and don't hear traffic. Its surprisingly dangerous being a pedestrian, and listening to something, as you tend to be less aware (one sense is dulled). My mother almost hit one, who was completely unaware, and randomly ran across the road

Alfred is worst around 5-6pm, when it becomes totally jammed. Anyhoo, I'm out of that hateful institution... and in the real world

Yes, I quite agree.

And you're a lucky brastard being in the real world - my degree has been proceeding glacially on a part-time basis. Feckkit.

As one who has been struck by a taxi van, I do not recommend pedestrian v motorised vehicle. (It's a long story - no, I was not pissed; yes, it was a cold, dark night a long time ago...)

That all said - I do still rather like the way pedestrians scatter if one's bike has a loud zorst and *sounds* fast Hehe.

[twinkle]

good stuff guys, thanks

They might even turn the car parks down there into motorcycle parks when cars aren't allowed through

[Chisanga]

Sent in my submission.

I don't know what they would do with the spaces that are used for motorbikes if they ban us from accessing the street but I would guess the council hasn't even thought of that yet.

[skidMark]

Ah, yeah, you're quite right *Phurrball must process information properly before replying*

It does get vaguely dicey dodging cars, busses, and the odd speeding Gremlin when crossing Alfred St.

big whales like 7 r's do not speed they waft

and i'm too dumb for uni so i'm to lazy to make a submission and not much i can say if i don't use the parking there.

would be good if albert street parking was kept though if they do all these changes maybe security guards will be put it place etc....which would hopefully prevent the as i understand it one bike per week being stolen from there in broad daylight.

and gremlin only kidding beforei am a kawasaki man....love you longtime

[Chisanga]

which would hopefully prevent the as i understand it one bike per week being stolen from there in broad daylight.

Where did you hear that mate? I've been going to uni for 2 years (admittedly not riding a bike there) and haven't heard anything like that.