BIKEOI Wellington

[StoneY]

I set an original time of 2pm arrival for Paliament but the BRONZ meeting (which had final say) chose 12

I did not set the arrival time

I have tested the journey time to Parliament from both locations

1130 it must be for 12 arrival I am sorry

Larger groups from further away need to plan on this, I am sorry but the time was not my choice

Cheers

[klingon]

I set an original time of 2pm arrival for Paliament but the BRONZ meeting (which had final say) chose 12

I did not set the arrival time

I have tested the journey time to Parliament from both locations

1130 it must be for 12 arrival I am sorry

Larger groups from further away need to plan on this, I am sorry but the time was not my choice

Cheers

Oh dear I must have slept through that part of the BRONZ meeting. BRONZ Auckland committee will be meeting tomorrow (Monday) evening to talk about some details. Shall I bring it up then, or MSTRS do you want to PM Ixion with your concerns?

[StoneY]

Oh dear I must have slept through that part of the BRONZ meeting. BRONZ Auckland committee will be meeting tomorrow (Monday) evening to talk about some details. Shall I bring it up then, or MSTRS do you want to PM Ixion with your concerns?

Its a bit late now Kilingon, we have publicized the arrival time on both Radio, Newspapers and all the posters

Peeps just have to get up early or travel the day before and get accom sorted

The 12oclock was rationalized on the travelers getting HOME more than getting there, I think that's only sensible

Don't mistake my post for saying its BRONZ fault...the time was considered very carefully and homeward journey had to take precedence for most travelers, and the midday arrival was the only choice

As it is deep south and far north will probably miss work on Wednesday.....

[klingon]

Its a bit late now Kilingon, we have publicized the arrival time on both Radio, Newspapers and all the posters

Peeps just have to get up early or travel the day before and get accom sorted

The 12oclock was rationalized on the travelers getting HOME more than getting there, I think that's only sensible

Don't mistake my post for saying its BRONZ fault...the time was considered very carefully and homeward journey had to take precedence for most travelers, and the midday arrival was the only choice

As it is deep south and far north will probably miss work on Wednesday.....

Oh I see. Yes, I can see where that timing makes sense. And if it's already publicised then it's a done deal really. I think my brain is full.

[MSTRS:Me]

Shall I bring it up then, or MSTRS do you want to PM Ixion with your concerns?

You are Johnny on the spot at the meeting. You do it. At least we know who has to adapt, if anyone has to...

[StoneY]

Yeah honestly I think they have the timing right
It is assumed most long distance travellers will get to with 2 hours of the meeting points by the 16th, I cant see it working any other way

It was the hardest single thing to get right, so I guess it just cant be 'right' for all

I'm lucky, 20 mins from meet, and target, but I do feel for those traveling

[Azi Dahaka]

well i would like the former rather than the latter i wouldnt want to soil my bike by having john key on it if you want to use if to ideas go ahead i am using it to inform people the more signs the better

[chanceyy]

been talking to Dave tonite & we will have several contingency plans if its looking like a large group is forming in Levin .. being that its a tues traffic should be normal flow & not to much of an issue ..

Even on a slow day pootling along it generally only takes me 45 -60 mins to get to Porirua .. and thats not doing much overtaking .. however we do have several good passing lanes up our sleeve .. we are also making contingency plans for slow/learner/250 riders.

The reality is that not everyone will be arriving at parliment 12noon .. if 1000 bikers turn up they can not all park & get sorted within a few mins ..

[Kendog]

I set an original time of 2pm arrival for Paliament but the BRONZ meeting (which had final say) chose 12

I did not set the arrival time

I have tested the journey time to Parliament from both locations

1130 it must be for 12 arrival I am sorry

Larger groups from further away need to plan on this, I am sorry but the time was not my choice

Cheers

Does anything start at parliament at 12?
The reason I ask is I would hat to lose the impact of all the riders being there is 12 was a critical time.
If we get the number of bikes being talked about, half an hour will not be long enough.

[Pwilton]

We all collectively need to get a message across to the ACC. Its bloody easy for them to target larger capacity motorcycles.
Their (ACC) issue is they collect $12 Million from existing ACC levies from motorcycles, but pay out around $40 million. Many of these ACC payouts are to off road riders, farm workers on quads etc. None of these people pay m/c registration so were expected to subsidize them. Is that fair..ah NO!

Maybe petrol should have a few cents/litre added, that way we all contribute.

[MSTRS:Me]

Pwilton - first...welcome. Second, you need to do some reading here in the ACC Levy Campaign forum, particularly the threads dedicated to stats etc. Your post has wrong figures (as do ACC). The offroad accidents are not paid for from the road fund (as far as we know) BUT the crashes themselves are lumped in with road crashes so that motorcycle crash figures look way worse than they really are. Actually, any crash is not good, but I hope you see what I mean?
There is already an ACC component in fuel at the pump. 9.9c/l I think?

[mowgli]

Many of these ACC payouts are to off road riders, farm workers on quads etc. None of these people pay m/c registration so were expected to subsidize them. Is that fair..ah NO!
Maybe petrol should have a few cents/litre added, that way we all contribute.

You're missing the wider issue - this is not just about (un)registered motorcyclists or even motorists. ACC is injury insurance for ALL of society. If it's to be levied through purchasing then it should be a component of GST and not fuel excise tax.

[Laxi]

ACC is injury insurance

ACC is NOT "insurance"! insurance companys cover the cost to you and in the case of non fault, they attempt to reclaim the cost from the party at fault or their insurance company. With ACC the abbillity to sue was exchanged for a COMPENSATION scheme, and unless we want to end up like the states where every stupid little thing ends up as a law suit (imagine the cost and impact incured on the legal system) ACC needs to be kept the way it was intended

[Ixion]

The timing is not an issue really.

Even a few hundred bikes will stretch the arrivals over half an hour . Thousands, hours

Reality is the timing has to be based on the lead group. The stragglers will still be coming in much later. Half an hour one way or the other makes no difference to them.

So long as the Wellington guys have their timing sorted, it'll work.

[mowgli]

ACC is NOT "insurance"!

My bad. You are quite correct. Call it Assurance then. The point being that if it's supposed to benefit everyone then everyone should share in its funding.