Getting a deregistered bike back on the road?

**Mr Skid** · 16th June 2005, 13:21

In the hunt for the perfect skid, I've been keeping an eye on a few trail/adventure bikes in the market.

A number of them have had the road kit removed and deregistered. I understand that if they've got a VIN number and haven't been written off that the re-registration process isn't too difficult.

The LTSA site suggests that they need to be recertified before issuing a new set of plates.

Has anyone had any experience with this process? I'd be interested to know what costs were incurred, and any pitfalls to watch out for..

**Badcat** · 16th June 2005, 14:47

i was a total dick and forgot to re-register my 2002 KTM supermoto.
re-examining it took over an hour and cost me more than $400.
i won't do that again.
i'm going to be in this situation soon - i have an xt500 that has no vin (too old) but does have an old black plate.
will post my findings to the XT500 street tracker thread:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ighlight=xt500

k

**NordieBoy** · 16th June 2005, 16:56

Originally Posted by Mr Skid

I understand that if they've got a VIN number and haven't been written off that the re-registration process isn't too difficult.

Mine was written off and I had no problems re-registering.

Make sure you've got E marked lights...

**Mr Skid** · 16th June 2005, 23:46

Originally Posted by Badcat

re-examining it took over an hour and cost me more than $400.

Eeek! I think I'll have to look at bikes with current/on hold registration then.

I did have my eye on an tm auction for a KLX650, but it's been withdrawn. The idea of 48hp being put down through a 130 width knob made me go all weak at the knees.

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

Mine was written off and I had no problems re-registering.

Make sure you've got E marked lights...

Not your namesake I hope???

**NordieBoy** · 17th June 2005, 14:17

Yes, my namesake.

But it got rebuilt better/stronger/faster and didn't cost 6 million dollars

Actually $1500 including buying back the wreck and it was back on the road

And the insurance paid for my other Nordie

Win-win really

**Brian d marge** · 19th June 2005, 00:52

As in order to compete in this ISDE it may be that I have to have my bike VIN ed , for a six day event ,,,, No F()='&%& way , the american one was on private land ,,,
And not so much the cost but the actual logistics for me will be a MAGOR pain to say the least
So Roughly whats involved and how much,,,, its a race bike and hasnt seen a number plate ,,,,,
Stephen

**Posh Tourer :P** · 21st June 2005, 22:03

Originally Posted by Mr Skid

In the hunt for the perfect skid, I've been keeping an eye on a few trail/adventure bikes in the market.

A number of them have had the road kit removed and deregistered. I understand that if they've got a VIN number and haven't been written off that the re-registration process isn't too difficult.

The LTSA site suggests that they need to be recertified before issuing a new set of plates.

Has anyone had any experience with this process? I'd be interested to know what costs were incurred, and any pitfalls to watch out for..

Done this three times fairly recently, you pay the $250 for a years rego, plus $100-odd for the COF inspection, plus $60 for the plates, coming out to just over $400. They need only a frame number and proof of ownership, and to be in good WOF-able condition. If you have the old plates, this helps, if not, it does not matter. Whatever you do, don't slap on any old plate to get to the testing station, or if you do, take it off before they see you. They get very suspicious when the plate and frame no don't match...

They will give you a VIN plate if you do not have one. Also watch that the frame and engine no's match or that you have paperwork for the engine change.

**sAsLEX** · 22nd June 2005, 06:44

Originally Posted by Posh Tourer :P

They need only a frame number and proof of ownership, and to be in good WOF-able condition. If you have the old plates, this helps, if not, it does not matter. Whatever you do, don't slap on any old plate to get to the testing station, or if you do, take it off before they see you. They get very suspicious when the plate and frame no don't match...

They will give you a VIN plate if you do not have one. Also watch that the frame and engine no's match or that you have paperwork for the engine change.

But that frame number must be in there system, you can ring before hand with the frame number to check if it will go through, plus I just rode my xr to the testing station, and to get a new tyre, bad i know but not many traffic police in devonport!

**Posh Tourer :P** · 22nd June 2005, 21:32

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

But that frame number must be in there system, you can ring before hand with the frame number to check if it will go through, plus I just rode my xr to the testing station, and to get a new tyre, bad i know but not many traffic police in devonport!

This is what I am saying. Technically it is 'legal' to ride directly to a WOF station with no WOF. By extension, it is kinda legal-ish to ride directly to a COF station with no plate right? Same principle....

Yes that frame number must be in the system, but on a bike that has been on the road before, it will be, even if the bike has been subsequently off the road for a while. However, it must be possible to put a new frame number into the system, how else would you import a bike from another country??

**sAsLEX** · 22nd June 2005, 22:40

Originally Posted by Posh Tourer :P

However, it must be possible to put a new frame number into the system, how else would you import a bike from another country??

yeah but they wouldn't let me do it to my xr as there reason was, well they just said they couldn't because of some dumb rule

**Posh Tourer :P** · 22nd June 2005, 22:48

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

yeah but they wouldn't let me do it to my xr as there reason was, well they just said they couldn't because of some dumb rule

Is that because the bike was never manufactured to be on the road??? There are I think different safety regulations on manufacture for a bike that can be road legal vs one that cant, and I'm not just talking about lights and mirrors, but maybe something more fundamental?

**Ixion** · 22nd June 2005, 23:33

Originally Posted by Posh Tourer :P

Is that because the bike was never manufactured to be on the road??? There are I think different safety regulations on manufacture for a bike that can be road legal vs one that cant, and I'm not just talking about lights and mirrors, but maybe something more fundamental?

The bike has to be a model that has been "complied" in the first place I believe. That is, when a importer decides he wants to sell the 100cc Puffmo in NZ, he gets the model certified. He provides proof (normally from the manufacturer) that the bike (or car) was built in compliance with various design standards. This only has to be done once for each model(not each bike) . After that the authorities know that the Puffmo 100 is built in compliance with the relevant standards.

So then when you turn up to get a VIN for your Puffmo 100 they just need to establish that it is indeed a 2003 Puffmo 100, check that everything works and is as per manufacturers spec. Even if it's never had NZ plates they can still do it. NZ plates make it esier because they can verify original year of manufacture etc.

But if you come along with a Sluggo250, and that model has never been complied, they can't VIN it. Some models are NOT built in compliance with the standards for road going vehicles, because they were never intended to be used on the road.

I think there are exemptions for older and vintage vehicles.