Yama got the specs wrong?

**bugjuice** · 11th January 2006, 09:54

Kinda looks like yamaha is backpeddling on the 17,500 rpm redline on the 06 r6... Its been dyno tested a few times now and has been redlining around 15,800 rpms which has been causing a quite the stir. Well i just came across this thread on the r-6 board (keeping my enemies close...

) and thought it was interesting. Seems yama has yanked their claim of 17,500 RPM's which used to be on their website. Its been removed from the u.s. and european site, but still listed on canada. The r-6 guys are pissed...LOL Im anxious to see what happens with this...

link to the thread
http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21468

yamaha US
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr.../features.aspx

yamah Canada
http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/...ion=ft&group=M

yamaha Europe
http://www.yamaha-motor.co.uk/produc...?view=overview

**Firefight** · 11th January 2006, 10:01

[QUOTE=bugjuice] Im anxious to see what happens with this...

why in God's name (sorry Matt) would you be anxious about this Kit ?

were you think of up grading to an R6 ?

F/F

**bugjuice** · 11th January 2006, 10:04

well, yes and no..
it's one of the highest revving engines around at the mo (and an indication of things to come?), so to see Yama get it so wrong, there's got to be more to it than meets the eye. It's an awesome bike on paper, but are they going to deliver? Just thought it's quite a big booboo
may be that's a little ott then.. but I've just had a strong coffee

**cowpoos** · 11th January 2006, 10:06

that redline was never where the peak power was....it gave a really good overrun in the revs to make riding the bike at a track easyer....it also gave the engine the potential to be highly tunable...like the R1

**bugjuice** · 11th January 2006, 10:10

just found a dyno chart too

R6 vs GSXR600
You can see where it drops off. Dyno runs always go close or to the redline, which is that claimed 17,500, but the chart shows no where near 17.

Still a fast bike (see the bhp in the bottom corner), but all the same..

**skelstar** · 11th January 2006, 10:19

Question: why is an over run in the revs make riding a bike easier at a trackday?...it is so you can hold the throttle in a corner for longer?
Ta.

**cowpoos** · 11th January 2006, 10:30

can use a lower gear...so in stead of droping below the power during the corner as the rev's drop....you can use the over run to drop the rev's into the power to give more drive at the exit...so it is a clever way of countering the low amounts of midrange power the 600 class develops...its how a number of GP twostrokers were tuned to great results...

**nudemetalz** · 11th January 2006, 11:01

What about that short video which showed the rev-counter revving thru to 17.5K and down again. Was that an inaccurate or false reading?

**bugjuice** · 11th January 2006, 11:04

yup, seems like it

**Lou Girardin** · 11th January 2006, 11:13

Are you saying that peak power is at 15,800 or that the limiter comes in at 15,800?
Because Yamaha merely claim a 17,500 red line not that power peaks at that.

**TonyB** · 11th January 2006, 11:15

To my laymans way of thinking it looks like the R6 would be harder to ride than the GSXR- you'd always having it spinning harder and probably changing gears more often too. I can't help thinking Yamaha are going in the wrong direction- it's the same with the 1000's, all of the competition have a better torque spread and are making more power at lower revs. The peak power is similar, but the Yammies have to rev harder to achieve it.

**bugjuice** · 11th January 2006, 11:17

peak power was claimed at 14,800
Don't know where the limiter sits

**Sniper** · 11th January 2006, 11:20

Maybe thats it, maybe the limiter keeps the revs down? Im just thinking outside the square.

**bugjuice** · 11th January 2006, 11:21

well, the big topic is that what shows on the rev counter is far from what's actually going on

**SixPackBack** · 11th January 2006, 11:23

Originally Posted by TonyB

To my laymans way of thinking it looks like the R6 would be harder to ride than the GSXR- you'd always having it spinning harder and probably changing gears more often too. I can't help thinking Yamaha are going in the wrong direction- it's the same with the 1000's, all of the competition have a better torque spread and are making more power at lower revs. The peak power is similar, but the Yammies have to rev harder to achieve it.

True that......the only true salvation is via the Gixxer