Wellington says no to bikes on footpath.

[Kendog]

Well it would seem Wellington no longer allows bikes on footpaths either.

The bikes on Boulcott Street have been ticketed, with the meter guy saying they are going to ticket bikes on the footpath from now on.

Are we ready to make a stand????????

[oldrider]

What was the result of the Auckland initiative on this problem? John.

[judecatmad]

Good lord, and Wellington is one of the better provided for cities as far as bike parking goes! And still the parks fill up cos of the number of bikes around the place.

Fine - if they're going to start penalising people for parking on the footpath when all the bike parks are full (assuming said bikes aren't causing an obstruction of course), we need us one of those 'one bike per road parking space' protests. Car parking in Wellington is so appalling that there will soon be some notice taken!

I suppose we'd have to make sure all bike parks in the vicinity were full first, just so we were actually proving the point tho.....I think that's what was being planned in Auckland.

However, given that we've currently got a cheesecutter campaign going and we do want it to be taken seriously, and for that we need as much public support as possible, which is more important? Parking or the campaign?

[RantyDave]

Originally Posted by Kendog

The bikes on Boulcott Street have been ticketed, with the meter guy saying they are going to ticket bikes on the footpath from now on.

Really? Was there a bye-law changed somewhere?

A list of councillors - http://www.wellington.govt.nz/about/mayor/index.html. These people are PAID to represent US. Demand that they pay some attention.

Dave

[007XX]

Originally Posted by judecatmad

However, given that we've currently got a cheesecutter campaign going and we do want it to be taken seriously, and for that we need as much public support as possible, which is more important? Parking or the campaign?

That is the objection that came to my mind...are we not a bit worried that making a protest about parking may not detract from the very serious issue of Anti Cheese Cutter campaign?

I'm not criticising, just putting the question out there

The last thing we want, is people going: "oh man, another bloody bikers' campaign"...if you know what I mean!

[Kendog]

That’s a fair call re the Cheese cutter campaign.

But this is just another example of a lack of consideration for bikers.
On one hand the council says they want to reduce traffic congestion. Bikes help achieve this, but I don’t think they are catered for sufficiently when it comes to parking. Yes we have free bike parks in the CBD, but over the last few weeks I have noticed a lot of these are so full there are bikes parked all around the area on the footpath.

[nudemetalz]

Sorry I can't do anything about it, it's enforced by Parkwise, not WCC.

[vifferman]

Originally Posted by judecatmad

However, given that we've currently got a cheesecutter campaign going and we do want it to be taken seriously, and for that we need as much public support as possible, which is more important? Parking or the campaign?

I don't think that is an issue.
Firstly, neither 'campaign' has much to do with public support: both are requiring appeals to bureaucrats. Secondly, we're dealing with two separate and distinct breeds of bureaucrats: politicians/lawmakers and petty local body bureaucrats. Both are known for not giving a crap about what anyone else thinks, and for being insular and uncommunicative.
It is therefore very doubtful about whether one 'campaign' will have much effect on the other, but "having two going at once" could be good for just raising awareness of biking in general.
Provided they're handled correctly, of course.

[judecatmad]

Originally Posted by nudemetalz

Sorry I can't do anything about it, it's enforced by Parkwise, not WCC.

But who regulates Parkwise? Surely they can't act outside of the local bylaws and outside of the council's guidance and recommendations?

[crazybigal]

is it legal to park a bike in a carpark? considering we have free bike parks to use.
man id love to see bikes lined down one of wellington streets, each taking up a car park.

[darkwolf]

Is it not possible to appeal these tickets - that would more likely be the most effective way as it would then slow down the courts process - even more - and they would attempt to do something about it. If you plead the case that there are not enough bike parks and rather than filling up a car park which cause annoyance ot other road users you parked on the foot path out of the way - assuming of course that the bike wasn't smack in the middle of the footpath acting as a barrier.

[James Deuce]

Originally Posted by crazybigal

is it legal to park a bike in a carpark? considering we have free bike parks to use.
man id love to see bikes lined down one of wellington streets, each taking up a car park.

No it isn't. Bikes aren't allowed to use pay and display parks in Wellington.

[judecatmad]

Originally Posted by Jim2

No it isn't. Bikes aren't allowed to use pay and display parks in Wellington.

So what's to be done if all the bike parks are full and the council says it's not within their scope to stop bikes being ticketed for parking where they've always parked as an alternative?

**so confused** Can't park on the footpath if all the parks are full, can't use pay and display if all the parks are full......only alternative is to go home it would seem! Or park in the stadium (they seem to be quite lenient with bikes) - but that's no good for those who work right down the other end of town..... *sigh*

[skelstar]

Footpaths aren't meant for bikes are they? I think its a bit cheeky using them for such a purpose, and I have done so in the past, but....

Isn't the issue more that you want more bike parks? Be sure of what you are asking for.

[Zapf]

Stupid wellington... look at Melbourne... Where you get to park bikes everywhere.