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T.W.R
25th July 2013, 19:41
Sold my Mistral about 8 years ago for $11,000 or so...mind you it WAS powered by hotted up 302 V8 & 5-speed.:niceone:
But I kept the brochure...:msn-wink:
Christ!! a warm 302 would have twisted the frame in two looking at scale of plans :lol:
Got plans for a Lotus7 too :cool:
unstuck
25th July 2013, 19:49
were those mistrals based on a ford pop chassis or something? The pops handle an 8 ok.
ducatilover
25th July 2013, 19:53
Comment in the mag: "it will comfortabley hold 95-100mph purrring along in overdrive top at well below a lazy 4,000rpm..":headbang: (try cruisng at THAT sort of speed today)
It's not hard, what with vehicles being much better today and all that. :bleh:
scumdog
25th July 2013, 19:55
:confused: according to the folio you could buy the whole car for a couple hundred quid :laugh:
New in the UK for 1,200 quid!
T.W.R
25th July 2013, 21:14
were those mistrals based on a ford pop chassis or something? The pops handle an 8 ok.
According to the booklet "designed for direct fitting of new Prefect (100E model components)" then goes on to rattle off fitment of Morris minor parts. But the folio has a foldout for Shepard performance parts from Prefect thru to Zephyr and Chevy straight 6 (suppose blue flame motor?)
New in the UK for 1,200 quid!
:laugh: that'd have to be a road ready car? going on the parts price listing in the booklet you could get the whole lot ready for motor & trans for about 160 :laugh: even the order form has a bit that if you paid 10% deposit you could pay the rest off :cool: lol them were the days trust in peeps being honest.
Had a dung-out of the garagre today and viola' - found a 1969 MOTOR magazine with a Vauxhall Ventora 12,000 mile report, I'd loved to have had that car, all the options including overdrive, top speed 108mph, and such style!:cool:
Comment in the mag: "it will comfortabley hold 95-100mph purrring along in overdrive top at well below a lazy 4,000rpm..":headbang: (try cruisng at THAT sort of speed today)
Are you able to scan those pages and put them up for all to see, especially those who have no idea what a Vauxhall looks like, let alone a Ventora...
That coke-bottle kick made those Victors / Ventoras [FD series?] look like bigger HB Vivas or vice versa...
Had a HA and two HCs - a 1200 and a 1800.
Flip
26th July 2013, 12:44
I took the MG for a WOF yesterday. I have done 34miles since its last one.
Its a neat wee car to drive and I always wonder why I don't drive it more often.
285379
unstuck
26th July 2013, 12:49
I took the MG for a WOF yesterday. I have done 34miles since its last one.
Its a neat wee car to drive and I always wonder why I don't drive it more often.
Very nice wee car indeed. I would be happy to drive it for you, if you are too busy.:whistle:
In other news..........There is a MK1 mini in todays local rag, unfinished project, spares ect........$500.
Anyone interested I can post them the PH number.:2thumbsup
scumdog
26th July 2013, 15:08
:laugh: that'd have to be a road ready car? going on the parts price listing in the booklet you could get the whole lot ready for motor & trans for about 160 :laugh: even the order form has a bit that if you paid 10% deposit you could pay the rest off :cool: lol them were the days trust in peeps being honest.
My bad - I was meaning the Ventora, doh!
And my Mistral had a 3" X 3" box section chassis and used Mk5 six-cylinder Cortina front and rear suspension, diff etc.
Only did low 14 second 1/4 miles - but that was taking off in 2nd with buckets of wheel-spin and smoke...needed bigger rubber.
Top speed would have to be 130mph+ (I didn't have the nads to find out how far past the 130 the + was)
dangerous
26th July 2013, 17:38
My bad - I was meaning the Ventora, doh!
And my Mistral had a 3" X 3" box section chassis and used Mk5 six-cylinder Cortina front and rear suspension, diff etc.
Only did low 14 second 1/4 miles - but that was taking off in 2nd with buckets of wheel-spin and smoke...needed bigger rubber.
Top speed would have to be 130mph+ (I didn't have the nads to find out how far past the 130 the + was)
yeah but... what was the power plant T?
unstuck
26th July 2013, 18:09
yeah but... what was the power plant T?
302, Im guessing windsor or cleveland????
scumdog
26th July 2013, 21:11
Are you able to scan those pages and put them up for all to see, especially those who have no idea what a Vauxhall looks like, let alone a Ventora...
That coke-bottle kick made those Victors / Ventoras [FD series?] look like bigger HB Vivas or vice versa...
Had a HA and two HCs - a 1200 and a 1800.
Sorry, don't have the ability - and the magazine spine is falling apart as it is.
unstuck
26th July 2013, 21:15
Are you able to scan those pages and put them up for all to see, especially those who have no idea what a Vauxhall looks like, let alone a Ventora...
That coke-bottle kick made those Victors / Ventoras [FD series?] look like bigger HB Vivas or vice versa...
Had a HA and two HCs - a 1200 and a 1800.
I put a pretty nifty chevette motor in my last HC viva, was a good car on gravel.:2thumbsup
scumdog
26th July 2013, 21:16
yeah but... what was the power plant T?
Warm 302 Windsor - double valve-springs, hot cam, alloy intake, 600 Holley, headers etc.
4th gear wheelspin in the wet at 50kph, like a go-kart on steroids...:D:;)
unstuck
26th July 2013, 21:21
Warm 302 Windsor - double valve-springs, hot cam, alloy intake, 600 Holley, headers etc.
4th gear wheelspin in the wet at 50kph, like a go-kart on steroids...:D:;)
Sounds nice.:2thumbsup
pete376403
27th July 2013, 12:18
I put a pretty nifty chevette motor in my last HC viva, was a good car on gravel.:2thumbsup
A workmate took that a step further and put an Isuzu Gemini motor and box into his Chevette. (This was back in the days when you were permitted such things without certs, etc)
Gemini and Chevette were pretty much the same floor pan, it was a very easy swap.
(Chevette handled well but had a shit motor, Gemini vice versa
unstuck
27th July 2013, 12:54
A workmate took that a step further and put an Isuzu Gemini motor and box into his Chevette. (This was back in the days when you were permitted such things without certs, etc)
Gemini and Chevette were pretty much the same floor pan, it was a very easy swap.
(Chevette handled well but had a shit motor, Gemini vice versa
Mine was from an HS chevette a mate got from somewhere, 2.2 slant motor. Bloody hard to get all 16 valves bouncing thats for sure.Man that thing could rev out, took it to a local gymkahana once and paul adams was there, I think he was NZ rally champ at that stage, and even he was impressed.:headbang::headbang:
Flip
28th July 2013, 08:34
Very nice wee car indeed. I would be happy to drive it for you, if you are too busy.:whistle:
In other news..........There is a MK1 mini in todays local rag, unfinished project, spares ect........$500.
Anyone interested I can post them the PH number.:2thumbsup
If you ever want to take a "propper" english sports car out for a spin, there are quite a few nice back roads around here in the hills.
unstuck
28th July 2013, 08:47
If you ever want to take a "propper" english sports car out for a spin, there are quite a few nice back roads around here in the hills.
Sounds like an invite to me.:blip::2thumbsup
scumdog
28th July 2013, 17:57
Found another old mag from '69 with a bigger write-up on Vokkers - found out the only 3.3 Victor available to the Poms was the wagon, if they wanted the saloon model it had to be a Ventora - oh my, what a decision to make!...
dangerous
28th July 2013, 18:50
you just wanted to say 69
scumdog
28th July 2013, 19:29
you just wanted to say 69
And what would YOU know about them?????:killingme:
(I bet there's twice that ya wish you had doen a 69 instead of the 'real-thing'..hehehehe.:lol:)
dangerous
28th July 2013, 19:44
(I bet there's twice that ya wish you had doen a 69 instead of the 'real-thing'..hehehehe.:lol:)correct... *sigh*
ON another note... FUCK YES
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=620375926
scumdog
28th July 2013, 19:56
correct... *sigh*
ON another note... FUCK YES
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=620375926
The 'FUCK YES' is nice, now I need the dollars...:pinch::pinch:
Indiana_Jones
28th July 2013, 22:10
Well figured out why my brakes have been failing, servo has failed and brake fluid is getting into the intake manifold thus causing lots of white smoke.
So....any suggestions where to get a suitable replacement or refurb kit etc?
-Indy
unstuck
28th July 2013, 22:25
Is it not the seals in the master cylinder letting fluid into the servo? seals are an easy enough fix.:2thumbsup
Indiana_Jones
28th July 2013, 22:59
As far as I understand at the moment it's some sort of seal on the M/C or servo itself that has failed, but it seems by the time they fail the servo itself is fairly munted and the bores etc are too worn.
So some sort of replacement might be the best long term solution, not fussed if it's not 'concours spec' etc just want working brakes.
-Indy
MIXONE
29th July 2013, 02:17
Found another old mag from '69 with a bigger write-up on Vokkers - found out the only 3.3 Victor available to the Poms was the wagon, if they wanted the saloon model it had to be a Ventora - oh my, what a decision to make!...
I mate in Chchur has three wagons in his back yard that he's going to build one good one out of.
unstuck
29th July 2013, 06:22
As far as I understand at the moment it's some sort of seal on the M/C or servo itself that has failed, but it seems by the time they fail the servo itself is fairly munted and the bores etc are too worn.
So some sort of replacement might be the best long term solution, not fussed if it's not 'concours spec' etc just want working brakes.
-Indy
Quite possible the bore has been munted, but I would pull the master cylinder off first and check it out, may be ok with a light hone and new seals.:niceone:
Edbear
29th July 2013, 08:12
As far as I understand at the moment it's some sort of seal on the M/C or servo itself that has failed, but it seems by the time they fail the servo itself is fairly munted and the bores etc are too worn.
So some sort of replacement might be the best long term solution, not fussed if it's not 'concours spec' etc just want working brakes.
-Indy
Working brakes are good... :yes:
scumdog
29th July 2013, 12:46
As far as I understand at the moment it's some sort of seal on the M/C or servo itself that has failed, but it seems by the time they fail the servo itself is fairly munted and the bores etc are too worn.
So some sort of replacement might be the best long term solution, not fussed if it's not 'concours spec' etc just want working brakes.
-Indy
If you want 100% fix AND keep it looking original there's outfits in NZ that will fit a stainless sleeve to worn master-cylinders, worth a thought...
Indiana_Jones
29th July 2013, 12:53
If you want 100% fix AND keep it looking original there's outfits in NZ that will fit a stainless sleeve to worn master-cylinders, worth a thought...
That's what I've been suggested to do elsewhere and is my best option I reckon. Which outfit would you recommend? local would be better but will ship if I have to.
-Indy
Ransom
29th July 2013, 17:25
most local garages and brake shops send resleeving work out anyway - ask whoever is close that you like and trust
some master cylinders are quite generic and cheaper to buy new but a resleeved one will last almost forever so well worth it for a classic keeper vehicle
if its sucking fluid right thru the servo then it sounds like servo seals as well
Kickaha
29th July 2013, 17:28
That's what I've been suggested to do elsewhere and is my best option I reckon. Which outfit would you recommend? local would be better but will ship if I have to.
-Indy
It's been sometime since I used them but these guys were pretty good http://www.toresleeve.co.nz/Services/Resleeving.html
Indiana_Jones
29th July 2013, 17:55
Cheers lads, yup the seals will be rooted inside so will be doing that, but gonna get it resleeved so it lasts :)
Thanks kickaha, my father in law found someone in Invercargill that should be able to help, will let you know how we get on.
-Indy
ducatilover
29th July 2013, 20:44
Quite possible the bore has been munted, but I would pull the master cylinder off first and check it out, may be ok with a light hone and new seals.:niceone:
What my Gore BF said is correct.
I'd rip it apart and check it out :niceone:
unstuck
29th July 2013, 21:31
What my Gore BF said is correct.
I'd rip it apart and check it out :niceone:
Thanks sweetie, will be doing the same on a clutch master cylinder in the morning. Was fun driving it back from invergiggle today with no clutch, not my car though, so all good. Just glad it had a good battery and starter motor.:whistle:
ducatilover
29th July 2013, 21:36
Thanks sweetie, will be doing the same on a clutch master cylinder in the morning. Was fun driving it back from invergiggle today with no clutch, not my car though, so all good. Just glad it had a good battery and starter motor.:whistle:
It's always more interesting with no clutch :cool:
unstuck
29th July 2013, 21:42
It's always more interesting with no clutch :cool:
It is in rush hour traffic, if you can call it that in Invers. Just about every bloody light was red too.:2thumbsup
Fords are tough though.;)
ducatilover
29th July 2013, 22:04
Fords are tough though.;)
If this was true, you would have been using a clutch the whole way...
unstuck
29th July 2013, 22:16
If this was true, you would have been using a clutch the whole way...
Touche.:niceone:
Motu
1st August 2013, 21:04
went googling seems they are a 2 STROKE OPOSSED PISTON 3 CYLINDER DIESEL BUILT IN THE 60S (3 cyl, 6piston, 2 cranks)
I was having a hard time accepting that the Japanese would make such an unusual engine in the '60's - at that time they were either building under license or down right copying other developed designs. Found out the UD engines were very much a copy of GMC or Detroit engines, but used an inline pump and direct injection rather than unit injectors like the Detroit. Made more power than a Detroit, and better fuel economy, but not reliable.
This is a 6 cyl, and has twin blowers compared to the Detroit's single.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x347/RnR380/01_zpse94f4d78.jpg
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x347/RnR380/02_zps1355f798.jpg
unstuck
2nd August 2013, 05:43
This is a 6 cyl, and has twin blowers compared to the Detroit's single.
Looks sorta like the 11ltr 6cyl Merc motor I have been working on, but the merc lays on its side.:niceone:
dangerous
2nd August 2013, 05:43
I was having a hard time accepting that the Japanese would make such an unusual engine in the '60's - at that time they were either building under license or down right copying other developed designs. Found out the UD engines were very much a copy of GMC or Detroit engines, but used an inline pump and direct injection rather than unit injectors like the Detroit. Made more power than a Detroit, and better fuel economy, but not reliable.
"copying other developed designs" is what the Nips did... but improved it, allways would.
This is a 6 cyl, and has twin blowers compared to the Detroit's single.Where are the 'blowers' I see nothing mechanical of the crank pully end and there aint no turbines on it? EDIT hold on wait a minute... yes I do running off the fly wheel, well done.
unstuck
2nd August 2013, 05:47
"copying other developed designs" is what the Nips did... but improved it, allways would.
Where are the 'blowers' I see nothing mechanical of the crank pully end and there aint no turbines on it?
I was thinking the same thing.:scratch:
Indiana_Jones
2nd August 2013, 08:32
Plans for the weekend? Get that servo off!
It's a Girling Mk. IIB 'Powerstop', so even if I did want to work on it, I wouldn't be able as they're a sealed unit it seems.
Gonna send it down to my father in law and he'll drop it off at the brake place.
Also I got pre-approval for a mortgage, does that means I can go car shopping now? :yes:
-Indy
http://www.ado16.info/images/rallycars7.jpg
unstuck
2nd August 2013, 09:02
Also I got pre-approval for a mortgage, does that means I can go car shopping now? :yes:
-Indy
Yes, full approval to go car shopping.:Punk::Punk:
dangerous
2nd August 2013, 17:15
Yes, full approval to go car shopping.:Punk::Punk: I fucking dear him... :sweatdrop
been with westpac all my life, they pre aproved a morgage two years back, even gave us the 1st 100k which went to buying the land... went in for the rest for the house and they said NAH... we were fucked, so told the pack a c@#ts to piss the fuck off... since sorted with ASB
unstuck
2nd August 2013, 17:26
I fucking dear him... :sweatdrop
been with westpac all my life, they pre aproved a morgage two years back, even gave us the 1st 100k which went to buying the land... went in for the rest for the house and they said NAH... we were fucked, so told the pack a c@#ts to piss the fuck off... since sorted with ASB
Shit, that sux. Our mortgage is through Kiwibank, never had any hassles at all in the last 8yrs.:Punk::Punk:
Motu
2nd August 2013, 17:46
"copying other developed designs" is what the Nips did... but improved it, allways would.
Where are the 'blowers' I see nothing mechanical of the crank pully end and there aint no turbines on it? EDIT hold on wait a minute... yes I do running off the fly wheel, well done.
GM used a different blower for each engine size, or cyl numbers - so that 4/71 or 6/71 blower you see on the top of a V8 dragster came off a 4 or 6 cyl GMC or Detroit. Nissan are probably just doubling up on their 3 cyl engine, complete with blowers.
Easy to further develop a design when most of the work is done, and the budget is huge compared to what the original designers had to work with. An interesting quote I once read about Japanese engineering - ''If one bolt will hold it, two will do, and three will make sure...then use four.''
unstuck
2nd August 2013, 18:28
''If one bolt will hold it, two will do, and three will make sure...then use four.''
And put them in places the funny round eyed white man cant get to them with his big paws.:mad:
dangerous
2nd August 2013, 20:39
LOL... yeah aye
Flip
3rd August 2013, 17:45
Ulysses MCC run tomorow, looks like its going to be a wet run. Think I will have to take the lotus.
unstuck
3rd August 2013, 17:49
Ulysses MCC run tomorow, looks like its going to be a wet run. Think I will have to take the lotus.
http://rlv.zcache.com/meow_cartoon_cat_stickers-ra2c460742bf942baa369cf97b08941a8_v9waf_8byvr_512. jpg
Flip
3rd August 2013, 20:39
Thats a cats bum! I don't see the connection, please explain?
unstuck
3rd August 2013, 21:56
Thats a cats bum! I don't see the connection, please explain?
Was supposed to be a pussys pussy.:devil2::2thumbsup
Flip
3rd August 2013, 23:09
Well its warm, dry and fast. Also Ted my best friend can come too.
Its still a Cats bum!
ducatilover
4th August 2013, 14:57
I'd take the Lotus too, Flip. :devil2:
In fact, I will (no, you do not have a choice.) I'll pick it up this Friday, or Saturday, whatever day you're not around when I'm down your way :girlfight:
Indiana_Jones
5th August 2013, 12:52
Nice car, it's a shame it's an auto though
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mg/zt/auction-622565548.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/278070226.jpg
-Indy
avgas
5th August 2013, 14:32
Yeah but only the 260+ had rear wheel drive. So your basically buying a rover 75 with a body kit. May as well buy a Proton.
Indiana_Jones
5th August 2013, 14:39
Yeah but only the 260+ had rear wheel drive. So your basically buying a rover 75 with a body kit. May as well buy a Proton.
I prefer FWD lol.
But yeah, the MG version of the 75 seemed pointless to me, why take a lush car style and interior wise and turn it boy racer spec?
The hatch backs though were begging for an MG version :yes:
-Indy
Flip
6th August 2013, 12:50
IMHO if you have to get a MG get a real one, not a re badged Rover.
Indiana_Jones
6th August 2013, 13:15
Depends on how you define the last 'real' MG hah.
People people reckon the MGA was the last, some say the B still counts. Shit some would even say the F does.
If I were to get another MG, I'd get another BGT, cheaper, great spares and look sweet.
Saying that I would own a MG 1100/1300 or make an MG 1800 like some chap did in the '60s
-Indy
unstuck
6th August 2013, 15:04
That one of Flip,s is well tasty though. Very nice.:2thumbsup
Daffyd
6th August 2013, 15:05
IMHO if you have to get a MG get a real one, not a re badged Rover.
Define an original MG. Don't forget what MG stands for.
scumdog
6th August 2013, 17:50
Define an original MG. Don't forget what MG stands for.
Marinas are Great?
dangerous
6th August 2013, 18:16
fuck off scum dog... and the only MG is MOTO GUZZI... the following is some horny shit, yeah thats right Id sooner have either over a half decent root, ahh fuck it.. any root
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=620375926
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=622709626
285910 285911 285912 285913
scumdog
6th August 2013, 18:33
Frikkin bloody Mighty Marina went from Johnny-no-spots to Anwar Kaddiz when it comes to oil in the drive.:mad::(:(
Looks like a rear-seal gone awol but i'net search indicates the suckers don't have a 'real' crank seal at the back and rely on a good vacuum for the PCV system.
Any one of you British Leyland fruit-loops know about these things.?:confused::wait:
Well, as we all know children - the 1275s don't have a 'proper' rear seal.
And as long as I limit my driving to around town there's almost zero oil-drips.
But take it out on the open road screamin' its guts out for 10-15km or more and oh brother, it turns into the Torrey Canyon...
unstuck
6th August 2013, 18:40
Well, as we all know children - the 1275s don't have a 'proper' rear seal.
And as long as I limit my driving to around town there's almost zero oil-drips.
But take it out on the open road screamin' its guts out for 10-15km or more and oh brother, it turns into the Torrey Canyon...
All that lovely black oil, just waiting for a motorcyclist to loose their front wheel on. Well done Scummy.:devil2::bleh::bleh:
dangerous
6th August 2013, 19:02
All that lovely black oil, just waiting for a motorcyclist to loose their front wheel on. Well done Scummy.:devil2::bleh::bleh:yeah aye... then he will give the biker a GVT aproved bit a paper for being a dangerous prick...
unstuck
6th August 2013, 19:04
yeah aye... then he will give the biker a GVT aproved bit a paper for being a dangerous prick...
Yeah, the bastards. Its a conspiracy I tells ya.:msn-wink:
scumdog
6th August 2013, 19:44
All that lovely black oil, just waiting for a motorcyclist to loose their front wheel on. Well done Scummy.:devil2::bleh::bleh:
Well only if they run over both drops...
MY interpratation of 'Torrey Canyon oil slick' is very liberal...:laugh:
Motu
6th August 2013, 19:49
Define an original MG. Don't forget what MG stands for.
The TF I guess, the MGA and Magnete had the B block, which is an Austin designed engine, so not Morris based.
Daffyd
6th August 2013, 22:53
The TF I guess, the MGA and Magnete had the B block, which is an Austin designed engine, so not Morris based.
The "B" series engine was used in Morris Oxford, Wolsely 4/44 & 1500, Riley 1.5, Austin A50/A55. I was really referring to the "original" MG's, (Midgets, TA's etc), which came out of Morris Garages.
Motu
6th August 2013, 23:40
Yes, it was used in all those, because BMC used the Austin design drivetrain. MGA is not a Morris based car.
Indiana_Jones
8th August 2013, 11:29
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=620870971
Some one do it, come on!
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/277407932.jpg
-Indy
scumdog
8th August 2013, 12:54
How about THIS!:drool::eek:
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Leyland-Marina-Super-6-cyl-low-km-2-owner-timewarp-100-orig-car-Morris-Mini-P76-/231026031527?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item35ca397ba7&_uhb=1
A very original 6-cylinder manual Marina - still on cross-plies!
unstuck
8th August 2013, 14:36
How about THIS!:drool::eek:
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Leyland-Marina-Super-6-cyl-low-km-2-owner-timewarp-100-orig-car-Morris-Mini-P76-/231026031527?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item35ca397ba7&_uhb=1
A very original 6-cylinder manual Marina - still on cross-plies!
Seems like the ozzies got the best of all the british cars to me, basards.
Edbear
8th August 2013, 17:42
How about THIS!:drool::eek:
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Leyland-Marina-Super-6-cyl-low-km-2-owner-timewarp-100-orig-car-Morris-Mini-P76-/231026031527?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item35ca397ba7&_uhb=1
A very original 6-cylinder manual Marina - still on cross-plies!
Seems like the ozzies got the best of all the british cars to me, basards.
The motor was so heavy, it had plough understeer of massive proportions and the rear tyres had no show of keeping traction at more than half throttle. 3sp box too IIRC.
unstuck
8th August 2013, 19:15
and the rear tyres had no show of keeping traction at more than half throttle. 3sp box too IIRC.
Thats what I said, they got all the best cars.:devil2:
pete376403
8th August 2013, 19:23
Not leyland, but on the subject of overpowered Eurotrash - Simca (part of the Rootes group) had a model called the 180, which came with smallish (up to 2 litre) 4 cylinders. Chrysler Australia produced a version with the Valiant Hemi (the "little" 245, but, still...)
I only saw one, and never had a chance to drive it, but I'm guessing similar handling to the Marina 6
unstuck
8th August 2013, 19:31
Not leyland, but on the subject of overpowered Eurotrash - Simca (part of the Rootes group) had a model called the 180, which came with smallish (up to 2 litre) 4 cylinders. Chrysler Australia produced a version with the Valiant Hemi (the "little" 245, but, still...)
I only saw one, and never had a chance to drive it, but I'm guessing similar handling to the Marina 6
Thats why they invented handbrakes though, so you could go round corners.:yes:
blackdog
8th August 2013, 19:32
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=620870971
Some one do it, come on!
-Indy
NZ new, but Aussie assembled? I didn't realise that the late one with the vinyl splitter came with anything but the 'o' series engine.
Same colour too, I'd give a fingernail to get my old estate back.
dangerous
8th August 2013, 19:37
The motor was so heavy, it had plough understeer of massive proportions and the rear tyres had no show of keeping traction at more than half throttle. 3sp box too IIRC.
yeah but who farking cears... its a SIX, how cools that :first:
Indiana_Jones
8th August 2013, 20:31
These any good?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=622735391
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/278118320.jpg
-Indy
jonbuoy
8th August 2013, 22:56
Step away Indy! Defender or Series if you want a Landy or early Rangie.
YellowDog
9th August 2013, 03:34
The Freelander was an absolute fail for Rover.
I seem to remember the AA giving it the SUV breakdown record in the early 2000s.
Marinas were far better vehicles :yes:
Flip
9th August 2013, 08:18
Indy don't do it.
Way too unreilyable. If you want a Landy get a Defender of a Series truck.
If you still want a freelander get a Suzuki grand vitara.
I have had my curent stage 1 V8 Landy for 8 years, sure I have broken a few things, but parts are very cheap and easily available. It is also an easy vehicle to repair.
Finally "her in doors" won't drive it so it is always full of fuel, LPG and petrol.
Indiana_Jones
9th August 2013, 09:09
I thought the L series diesels were pretty sound?
cheers for the tips.
I think a defender would be cool, but had to be diesel and manual. as much as I love the older series ones, I couldn't afford to run it lol. But then again LPG is an option I guess, but seems less and less places offer it now.
-Indy
YellowDog
13th August 2013, 01:11
I thought the L series diesels were pretty sound?
cheers for the tips.
I think a defender would be cool, but had to be diesel and manual. as much as I love the older series ones, I couldn't afford to run it lol. But then again LPG is an option I guess, but seems less and less places offer it now.
-Indy
Oh... I was thinking about the petrol lump, and not the diesel, which would be a far more reasonable proposition :yes:
The Defender is a little agricultural for a family car, but I'd still love to have one :)
scumdog
13th August 2013, 15:49
Fully accessorised the Marina today - it now has a a smiley face (on reflectorised defraction tape no less!) on top of the chain-saw piston gear-stick knob!:woohoo::banana:
Ya cain't buy that kinda quality of accessory on Trade Me!:lol:
Indiana_Jones
13th August 2013, 17:42
Pics....:bleh:
-Indy
Indiana_Jones
14th August 2013, 08:43
Sell the 75 and get this? :yes:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=626638678&ed=true
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/279581620.jpg
-Indy
Swoop
14th August 2013, 10:52
Some one do it, come on!
:scratch: Drop a piano on it??
Paul in NZ
28th August 2013, 10:58
:scratch: Drop a piano on it??
Shocking waste of a piano.....
YellowDog
28th August 2013, 20:58
Sell the 75 and get this? :yes:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=626638678&ed=true
-Indy
Glad to hear the 75's working out OK for you and the family - :lol:
Your 75's a car without any of the usual old English quality flaws.
I'd stick with that and look for a project :thumbs:
I'm still in the UK and I must say that it is just so nice to see roads not full of cheap Jappa clones.
AND cars are just soooooo cheap out here.
Indiana_Jones
28th August 2013, 22:58
Glad to hear the 75's working out OK for you and the family - :lol:
Your 75's a car without any of the usual old English quality flaws.
I'd stick with that and look for a project :thumbs:
I'm still in the UK and I must say that it is just so nice to see roads not full of cheap Jappa clones.
AND cars are just soooooo cheap out here.
Be a dear and bring me back a diesel 75 estate please :D
Looking at selling the 75 (which is going ok, just got it's WOF, still need to do the belts) and replacing it with a diesel or some sort. Just makes more sense for around town here.
-Indy
YellowDog
29th August 2013, 06:16
You mean one like this one?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201306047104931/sort/default/make/ROVER/model/75/postcode/hp224ar/radius/1500/keywords/Diesel/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/advert-type/featured-listing/dealer/72363/usedcars?logcode=flp
Indiana_Jones
29th August 2013, 08:36
You mean one like this one?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201306047104931/sort/default/make/ROVER/model/75/postcode/hp224ar/radius/1500/keywords/Diesel/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/advert-type/featured-listing/dealer/72363/usedcars?logcode=flp
Make it a manual and pre-facelift and yes :yes:
-Indy
Bender
1st September 2013, 14:19
Morris 1100 - as mint as they come (but I doubt it's worth 15K).
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/morris/1100/auction-633547166.htm
ducatilover
1st September 2013, 15:31
Be a dear and bring me back a diesel 75 estate please :D
Looking at selling the 75 (which is going ok, just got it's WOF, still need to do the belts) and replacing it with a diesel or some sort. Just makes more sense for around town here.
-Indy
If you're on a bit of a budget go Pug 306/406 1.9 TDi. Best value of the diesels in the lower end of the price range. Just make sure it is fitted with a Bosch injector pump and not the shitheap Lucas unit and it'll serve you well. Very, very cheap to run.
I sold the Ovlov.
I purchased another boring car, that I got for a nice price and will flick it off soonish I think (once I do a cambelt etc on it)
Must work my way up to moar toyz :niceone:
Indiana_Jones
1st September 2013, 17:07
Morris 1100 - as mint as they come (but I doubt it's worth 15K).
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/morris/1100/auction-633547166.htm
Yep seen that one, was $16k to begin with. It's tidy as fuck, but it's not even worth $10k let alone $15k.
If you're on a bit of a budget go Pug 306/406 1.9 TDi. Best value of the diesels in the lower end of the price range. Just make sure it is fitted with a Bosch injector pump and not the shitheap Lucas unit and it'll serve you well. Very, very cheap to run.
I sold the Ovlov.
I purchased another boring car, that I got for a nice price and will flick it off soonish I think (once I do a cambelt etc on it)
Must work my way up to moar toyz :niceone:
Yea one of our mates has a 406 Pug in diesel, quite a solid car. I'll keep my eyes open for one down here, how do the petrol ones go?
Still praying for a 75 diesel to pop up for sale lol.
As for you, get a Morris minor and toss a V6 in it....
-Indy
ducatilover
1st September 2013, 20:05
Yea one of our mates has a 406 Pug in diesel, quite a solid car. I'll keep my eyes open for one down here, how do the petrol ones go?
Still praying for a 75 diesel to pop up for sale lol.
As for you, get a Morris minor and toss a V6 in it....
-Indy
Petrol ones are meh, might as well buy a Jap car that does the same job and is built better. I have a '99 626 that's a better car than a petrol 406, more economical, go just as slow/boring/etc and far better built. (does 7l/100km avg. with my beige driving)
Nah, V8 Morrie is what I want ;) If I flog the Mazda I'll consider going Brit and/or classic again, but BMWs keep making me happy at te moment, got one in the workshop I rather like
Edbear
1st September 2013, 20:32
Yep seen that one, was $16k to begin with. It's tidy as fuck, but it's not even worth $10k let alone $15k.
Yea one of our mates has a 406 Pug in diesel, quite a solid car. I'll keep my eyes open for one down here, how do the petrol ones go?
Still praying for a 75 diesel to pop up for sale lol.
As for you, get a Morris minor and toss a V6 in it....
-Indy
Along with suitable suspension and brakes... :gob:
Edbear
1st September 2013, 20:39
Now, here's a cruiser! :woohoo:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=631035879
Virago
1st September 2013, 20:55
Now, here's a cruiser! :woohoo:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=631035879
Now that - is real tasty.
ducatilover
1st September 2013, 20:59
Along with suitable suspension and brakes... :gob:
:bleh: what for, ya Jessie!
Edbear
1st September 2013, 21:07
:bleh: what for, ya Jessie!
Those Titanium bits holding my back together are coloured yellow... :rolleyes:
Now 1958 was a good year, 'cause that's when I wuz born! :banana: I wonder if he'll swap an MX5 for this..? :msn-wink:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/auction-622363831.htm
Edbear
1st September 2013, 21:13
Awww, heck! Why not just go the whole hog... :love:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bentley/auction-623423767.htm
ducatilover
1st September 2013, 21:48
Those Titanium bits holding my back together are coloured yellow... :rolleyes:
Now 1958 was a good year, 'cause that's when I wuz born! :banana: I wonder if he'll swap an MX5 for this..? :msn-wink:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/auction-622363831.htm
:love: 'tis bootiful
Indiana_Jones
1st September 2013, 21:50
Damn that Jag is fine
Also spotted this tonight.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-633665688.htm
-Indy
dangerous
2nd September 2013, 05:45
That Bently is farking cool man... but hey tell me about the snipe. what are those two things between the rear fold down tables?
and a six but whats with the odd rocker cover, they a DOH rocker? whats that tube in the center about?
scumdog
2nd September 2013, 18:17
That Bently is farking cool man... but hey tell me about the snipe. what are those two things between the rear fold down tables?
and a six but whats with the odd rocker cover, they a DOH rocker? whats that tube in the center about?
I THINK they're ash-trays D.
And yeah DOHC and I THINK (twice!) that the spark-plug wires run along through that 'tube'.
Long time since I've seen on of them motors
dangerous
2nd September 2013, 18:44
I THINK they're ash-trays D.
And yeah DOHC and I THINK (twice!) that the spark-plug wires run along through that 'tube'.
Long time since I've seen on of them motors
thats kinda cool aye rather flash is DOHC and yeah I was impressed with the interior... did they haul arse ok?
scumdog
2nd September 2013, 19:42
thats kinda cool aye rather flash is DOHC and yeah I was impressed with the interior... did they haul arse ok?
Nah, bit of a slug...but a cruisey comfortable slug...
pete376403
2nd September 2013, 20:03
Nah, bit of a slug...but a cruisey comfortable slug...
Just about all the 3.8 jag engines ended up in stock cars. With a big 4 Bbbl Holley (cause stockies were only allowed one carb) and open exhaust they weren't too sluggy.
Pretty much ruled the roost until 245 valiants took over (sleeved down cyl 1 & 6 with a 202 holden piston to get under 240ci)
Ah just realised you were referring to the Snipe, not the Jag. OK the Humbers were a slug. A friend here in Wellington used to by Snipes and Super Snipes for a few hundred dollars each and smash them up in Demolition Derbies at Te Marua. More often than not he'd win because they were pretty much unstoppable tanks.
scumdog
2nd September 2013, 20:10
Just about all the 3.8 jag engines ended up in stock cars. With a big 4 Bbbl Holley (cause stockies were only allowed one carb) and open exhaust they weren't too sluggy.
Pretty much ruled the roost until 245 valiants took over (sleeved down cyl 1 & 6 with a 202 holden piston to get under 240ci)
I think (hope?) Dangerous was talking about the Snipe.
pete376403
2nd September 2013, 20:32
yeah, got that afterwards, hence the edit
dangerous
2nd September 2013, 20:34
I think (hope?) Dangerous was talking about the Snipe.
yeah yeah super snipe, engine looks half decent but obviously the poms strugled to get it right, look what the nips do with 6 pot DOHC engines
scumdog
2nd September 2013, 20:44
yeah yeah super snipe, engine looks half decent but obviously the poms strugled to get it right, look what the nips do with 6 pot DOHC engines
Sheesh D, look at the induction on the Snipe.
Then think of the weight of that lard-arsed luxo-barge.
No comparison with a Skyline or similar.:oi-grr:
Moi
2nd September 2013, 20:46
The Snipe's engine is an OHV only... so nothing special at all.
Very popular as chauffeur drive cars in the UK - big business, corporation mayors and the like... or the landed gentry, though they liked the estate versions. Considered a step up from Rover P-series and Triumph Renowns.
dangerous
2nd September 2013, 20:55
The Snipe's engine is an OHV only... so nothing special at all.
Very popular as chauffeur drive cars in the UK - big business, corporation mayors and the like... or the landed gentry, though they like the estate versions. Considered a step up from Rover P-series and Triumph Renowns.
well by what those above are saying is its a DOHC rather than the usual SOR or even the DOR like the 2.5 v8
shit anyone else than the poms got some grunt out of DOHC engines, shit even guzzi did it in 54 and it was a water cooled 8 500cc
Moi
2nd September 2013, 21:56
The Humber's straight 6 engine was OHV. It did have a rather large rocker cover which was dipped in the middle to carry the spark plug leads - this can give the appearance that it's a DOHC engine.
ducatilover
2nd September 2013, 23:10
I think they only ever made a bit less than 130hp? So probably similarly crap compared to a 202
Edbear
3rd September 2013, 07:16
I think they only ever made a bit less than 130hp? So probably similarly crap compared to a 202
I can't recall if anyone ever hotted one up.
scumdog
3rd September 2013, 19:58
The Snipe's engine is an OHV only... so nothing special at all.
Very popular as chauffeur drive cars in the UK - big business, corporation mayors and the like... or the landed gentry, though they liked the estate versions. Considered a step up from Rover P-series and Triumph Renowns.
Me bad - not OHC
And later ones topped 128hp.
Moi
3rd September 2013, 20:10
Me bad - not OHC
And later ones topped 128hp.
No, not bad...
A case of "Phat Phinger Syndrome" - considering the proximity of the 'c' and 'v' on a qwerty keyboard, a genuine mistake...
Anyhow, a man who loves a Marina ute can't be anything but good :niceone:
dangerous
3rd September 2013, 20:19
The Humber's straight 6 engine was OHV. It did have a rather large rocker cover which was dipped in the middle to carry the spark plug leads - this can give the appearance that it's a DOHC engine.
HANG ON...
Over Head Valve, tells me its not a side valve engine thats all?
so... do you mean its a single over head rocker set up?
If so then would the spark plugs not enter the head in the side?
If the spark plugs are in the top of the head and center then Id think its a double over head rocker OR double over head cam?
287190
Moi
3rd September 2013, 20:40
HANG ON...
Over Head Valve, tells me its not a side valve engine thats all?
so... do you mean its a single over head rocker set up?
If so then would the spark plugs not enter the head in the side?
If the spark plugs are in the top of the head and center then Id think its a double over head rocker OR double over head cam?
287190
I've done a bit of checking - yes OHV, seems the spark plugs entered between the valves which were set at almost 90 degrees to each other... so, presumably, it's a double overhead rocker. There is mention of a hemispherical combustion chamber.
pete376403
3rd September 2013, 20:48
HANG ON...
Over Head Valve, tells me its not a side valve engine thats all?
so... do you mean its a single over head rocker set up?
If so then would the spark plugs not enter the head in the side?
If the spark plugs are in the top of the head and center then Id think its a double over head rocker OR double over head cam?
287190
Pushrod, with rockers pivoting on two shafts (one for inlets, one for exhausts) and the plugs located centrally. Very similar to the Chrysler hemi (V8) setup, but without the excessive power.
Blurry pic attached
Edbear
3rd September 2013, 21:01
There was one, or possibly two, in NZ with the 318V8 Chrysler fitted. Apparently they went really well.
ducatilover
3rd September 2013, 22:02
I've done a bit of checking - yes OHV, seems the spark plugs entered between the valves which were set at almost 90 degrees to each other... so, presumably, it's a double overhead rocker. There is mention of a hemispherical combustion chamber.
Yup on an OHV to have centered plugs work you need a hemi head to get the valve angles right.
Would have been twin rocker shaft head as said. Nothing excessive for the time (seeing as Premier the French group, managed a gear driven OHC in 1903 or so) :yes:
dangerous
4th September 2013, 17:42
yeah think we have it sorted now, we all use abreveations a bit diferently... as I thought a double over head rocker same as the 2.5 V8 Damlers
Indiana_Jones
6th September 2013, 12:38
ohhh a 400
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/rover/416sli/auction-635231143.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/282566196.jpg
-Indy
pete376403
6th September 2013, 16:53
AKA Honda civic?
dangerous
6th September 2013, 18:18
AKA Honda civic?
claytons aye... why would ya?
Indiana_Jones
6th September 2013, 19:18
AKA Honda civic?
To be fair this one would have the POS that is the K-series in it.
I'd like a manual 75 please.
-Indy
Indiana_Jones
9th September 2013, 18:59
Local too lol
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/allegro/auction-636701946.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/283178038.jpg
-Indy
Edbear
9th September 2013, 19:11
Sweeeetttt!!!!!! :2thumbsup
ducatilover
13th September 2013, 09:40
AKA Honda civic?
Except the Civic/Domani perform better. I don't know why anybody would bother with a 400/200 series, they're junk. Just buy the Civic with a nice wee VTEC in it and enjoy a better car :bleh:
Indiana_Jones
13th September 2013, 15:48
Except the Civic/Domani perform better. I don't know why anybody would bother with a 400/200 series, they're junk. Just buy the Civic with a nice wee VTEC in it and enjoy a better car :bleh:
Agreed, granted the interior would be nicer on the 200/400 (if you got a leather one), so get both cars and swap the interior from the rover into the Honda.
-Indy
Indiana_Jones
14th September 2013, 21:08
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-638460072.htm
ooooooh
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/284077429.jpg
-Indy
YellowDog
15th September 2013, 08:42
I think the Europeans refer to this as the 'Distressed' look.
The designer rust on the bonnet really sets it off beautifully!
The perfect catalyst to achieve a relationship termination :yes:
Indiana_Jones
15th September 2013, 13:16
I think the Europeans refer to this as the 'Distressed' look.
The designer rust on the bonnet really sets it off beautifully!
The perfect catalyst to achieve a relationship termination :yes:
Mrs. Jones agrees.
I'd love it though, nice tidy Mk. I! I think Virago should buy it so it can be close to me lol.
-Indy
scumdog
15th September 2013, 13:37
Local too lol
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/allegro/auction-636701946.htm
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-Indy
Saw a very nice red one heading north through town on Friday, been a long time since I've sen one on the road.
I guess rust took most of them out?
Indiana_Jones
15th September 2013, 14:04
Saw a very nice red one heading north through town on Friday, been a long time since I've sen one on the road.
I guess rust took most of them out?
Rust wise, they weren't too bad, going by what UK 'crab owners say. Mine is pretty solid, touch wood.
You don't see many Austin or Morris ones on the road now, mainly just Wolseleys.
Totally keen to turn that grey one into a Rally styled one :D
-Indy
Virago
15th September 2013, 19:32
Mrs. Jones agrees.
I'd love it though, nice tidy Mk. I! I think Virago should buy it so it can be close to me lol.
-Indy
Hell, no. I've got a Jag to maintain, that's keeping me too poor for any other toys...:eek:
BTW, bike maint night tomorrow, if you fancy a sausage and chat. Bring Mrs Jones. :cool:
Indiana_Jones
18th September 2013, 17:48
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=639511217
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/284430121.jpg
-Indy
scumdog
18th September 2013, 20:34
Hmm, don't like the mis-match of colour between the doors on the drivers side...
Indiana_Jones
18th September 2013, 21:44
Good spotting, Batman.
Been mulling over petrol vs diesel today, it seems there's not much in it, unless you're doing higher kms.
Edit: this here is useful www.dieselvspetrol.webs.com
Thoughts?
-Indy
Edbear
19th September 2013, 07:30
Good spotting, Batman.
Been mulling over petrol vs diesel today, it seems there's not much in it, unless you're doing higher kms.
Edit: this here is useful www.dieselvspetrol.webs.com
Thoughts?
-Indy
When I was looking at a new car, up to the size of the Kizashi, which is a mid-size 2.4lt, there was no difference in over all running costs due solely to the RUC's. I would have had to be doing almost double the 26,000km p.a. that I am currrently doing to make it worth while. Even counting the extra cost to buy one, if the RUC's were lower, (read - reasonable!), diesel would be a no-brainer!
Indiana_Jones
19th September 2013, 08:37
The RUC's don't bother me, infact it's a system I prefer over petrol tax as I'm taxed by how many kms I travel and not how much fuel I burn.
What is annoying is how the rego is $120ish more pa for the ACC, so if you don't drive it you're paying for ACC for nothing.
But from a practical point of view, I think a diesel would be better around town (i.e. hilly for me).
-Indy
Edbear
19th September 2013, 09:42
I can get the same Km per tank in the Kizashi which is auto and the tank size is 60lt. But it looks tidy, I wonder which motor it has.
Indiana_Jones
19th September 2013, 09:52
In the 620? it'd be an L-series, which started life as an O-series (Princess 2) if I recall correctly. Apparently they're pretty bullet-proof.
-Indy
scumdog
19th September 2013, 19:47
Good spotting, Batman.
Been mulling over petrol vs diesel today, it seems there's not much in it, unless you're doing higher kms.
Edit: this here is useful www.dieselvspetrol.webs.com
Thoughts?
-Indy
'Work' cars get 7.2litres per 100km so I for one wouldn't be rushing into getting a diesel...
dangerous
19th September 2013, 19:51
'Work' cars get 7.2litres per 100km so I for one wouldn't be rushing into getting a diesel...work vans get 430k to $120... Id have a Diesel anyday :headbang:
Indiana_Jones
19th September 2013, 21:08
Around town I'd be getting around 14-15L/100km.
With the 600 I'd be looking at around 9L/100km.
-Indy
T.W.R
19th September 2013, 21:14
work vans get 430k to $120... Id have a Diesel anyday :headbang:
:eek: Thirsty! geez the old landcruiser gets 650km+ for $140 & it's a 3B diesel, gets down to 500 once I start bouncing around the river during the fishing season. Even my A32 Maxima with a 3lt V6 get 650-700km on a tank of juice
Edbear
19th September 2013, 22:11
Around town I'd be getting around 14-15L/100km.
With the 600 I'd be looking at around 9L/100km.
-Indy
Ouch! I get 8.6 around town, or if I hoof it around, I can get it just over 9.0. On a trip I get 7.6 average. Easy motorway cruising is 6.4. But I always have the air-con on.
Indiana_Jones
19th September 2013, 22:16
Ouch! I get 8.6 around town, or if I hoof it around, I can get it just over 9.0. On a trip I get 7.6 average. Easy motorway cruising is 6.4. But I always have the air-con on.
The joys of an auto 2.0L V6, I guess. Hence why I'm keen on a manual diesel lol
Which car are those figures from?
-Indy
Edbear
19th September 2013, 22:36
The joys of an auto 2.0L V6, I guess. Hence why I'm keen on a manual diesel lol
Which car are those figures from?
-Indy
2011 Suzuki Kizashi, 2.4lt. four, with CVT auto.
YellowDog
21st September 2013, 17:43
Hold the gun Indy..... I've found the perfect old UK car for you to worship.
I took the photo just for you.
If you hang on, you won't be disappointed :yes:
unstuck
21st September 2013, 17:52
Hold the gun Indy..... I've found the perfect old UK car for you to worship.
I took the photo just for you.
If you hang on, you won't be disappointed :yes:
A reliant robin? :laugh:
Indiana_Jones
21st September 2013, 18:13
Hold the gun Indy..... I've found the perfect old UK car for you to worship.
I took the photo just for you.
If you hang on, you won't be disappointed :yes:
lol is this a car for sale?
Took a look at the Rover 600, was pretty sweet so we're gonna go for it :)
-Indy
Motu
21st September 2013, 19:08
I've been working on an old Fergy the last couple of days - it hasn't run for for nearly 10 years. Amongst other things the starter bush was flogged - we had a box of 9 in stock! Runs sweet.
http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af212/bmwr65/2013-09-17091053_zpsccb39130.jpg
I practically served my time on these things - not Fergys, but the Leyland 20, they had the old Vanguard engine in them too.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8024/7604137250_2b8bce5ff1_z.jpg
dangerous
21st September 2013, 19:13
I've been working on an old Fergy the last couple of day - it hasn't for for nearly 10 years. Amongst other things the starter bush was flogged - we had a box of 9 in stock! Runs sweet.that the old 1.6 six vanguard engine? old man had one of them, never missed a beat... ANZ draged ya bags out to the aircraft for many a year too
Motu
21st September 2013, 20:46
No, the 2.1 engine - used in the Fergy, Phase 1, II and III Vanguard, Triumph TR 1,2 ,3 and 4...and the Leyland 20. As an apprentice we used to look after a fleet of Leyland 20 vans, and they had some J2 and J4 vans too. They later replaced the fleet with CF Bedfords and a couple of JU250's. Both a big improvement on what they had before....specially for us mechanics, the old vans were not nice to work on.
YellowDog
21st September 2013, 22:33
lol is this a car for sale?
Took a look at the Rover 600, was pretty sweet so we're gonna go for it :)
-Indy
Well you do know that I am a big 600 fan in that I owned one for a few years back in the 90s.
But this Hondumph I saw was a real classic and a pretty good car too:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/andwend/Aclaim_zps70f685f4.jpg
Indiana_Jones
21st September 2013, 22:37
It's so Hondaish! lol....I wonder why :bleh:
-Indy
Flip
21st September 2013, 23:01
I have a wee pommie shitter that does 6 l/100km at legal road speeds and can do 150 if pushed.
unstuck
22nd September 2013, 07:07
Thats a pretty tidy triumph/honda, must of been kept in a box in a shed somewhere because those things rust out real bad. I would have it though, good fun on the gravel.:2thumbsup
dangerous
22nd September 2013, 10:51
No, the 2.1 engine - used in the Fergy, Phase 1, II and III Vanguard, Triumph TR 1,2 ,3 and 4...and the Leyland 20. ohh yeah ok the vanguard four wet liner engine... never relised they were the same engine as the TR's tho 2,3 & 4 showen, or thinking about it I just forgot287797 287795 287796
Why did they not stick with the Sabrina samwich engine of that era?
But this Hondumph I saw was a real classic and a pretty good car too:Not Triumphs finest hour, what were they thinking?
scumdog
22nd September 2013, 20:00
:eek: Thirsty! geez the old landcruiser gets 650km+ for $140 & it's a 3B diesel, gets down to 500 once I start bouncing around the river during the fishing season. Even my A32 Maxima with a 3lt V6 get 650-700km on a tank of juice
Yep, me F100 gets around 900km+ between fill-ups - but then its almost $300 for said fill :(
T.W.R
22nd September 2013, 22:00
Yep, me F100 gets around 900km+ between fill-ups - but then its almost $300 for said fill :(
ha but that's $300 worth of fun :msn-wink: Bit like the cruiser off road...couldn't care less how much it hogs through because it's a shit load of fun going places where most others can't get to :shifty:
Indiana_Jones
23rd September 2013, 08:23
Offically grandpa spec now with a Rover 600 diesel lol
-Indy
YellowDog
23rd September 2013, 17:33
Offically grandpa spec now with a Rover 600 diesel lol
-Indy
Any photos?
unstuck
24th September 2013, 14:27
20 miles in 52 years:gob: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-24204080
dangerous
24th September 2013, 17:51
20 miles in 52 years:gob: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-24204080farking cool... be only cooler if it was a coupe
Edbear
24th September 2013, 18:25
farking cool... be only cooler if it was a coupe
Or a Vitesse! :yes:
dangerous
24th September 2013, 19:30
Or a Vitesse! :yes:or the coolest... a Vitesse coupe
Edbear
24th September 2013, 19:34
or the coolest... a Vitesse coupe
That's not cool, that's ICE COOL!!!:drool:
Indiana_Jones
24th September 2013, 20:54
Mmmmm nice
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/other/vanden/auction-641983336.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/284388644.jpg
-Indy
scumdog
24th September 2013, 21:49
or the coolest... a Vitesse coupe
On the button there D. - great style and just enough grunt to put a smile on yer face!:niceone:
YellowDog
24th September 2013, 21:57
I loved the Vitesse in it's day. The engine made a great sound. My neighbour used to park his convertible in my Dad's open garage. It still rusted to buggery though!
Daffyd
24th September 2013, 23:20
My older brother had two Vitesses, (or should that be Vitessi?) A Series 1, 1600cc and a Series 2, 2 litre. He loved them, particularly the S2. Had to go bigger when he remarried to a chick with 4 kids; plus his own 2. Went to a 504 Pug and has had Pugs ever since. 504, 505, 405, 605, (or maybe 604.)
dangerous
25th September 2013, 19:28
On the button there D. - great style and just enough grunt to put a smile on yer face!:niceone:had and drove a few 1600/6's but only ever drove one 2L... fark man "just" enough, it was way to much for the cage, felt sloppy felt like the thing streached on take off and the arse end cought up, it was well over stressed... farking fun
remembering back I also drove a V4 Herald, 2L transhit engine by memory, again... farking fun
YellowDog
27th September 2013, 21:13
So whilst in the UK, I tried to buy this:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/andwend/DSCN0245_zps1a60b770.jpg
Sadly the guy didn't understand my exchange rate :no:
YellowDog
27th September 2013, 21:17
Saw some well looked after classic cars at a show:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/andwend/DSCN0259_zps6b9bc305.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/andwend/DSCN0246_zpsa1ab8084.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/andwend/DSCN0247_zps031aa74b.jpg
Indiana_Jones
1st October 2013, 18:38
Any photos?
:)
http://imageshack.com/a/img542/4461/wzmc.jpg
-Indy
unstuck
1st October 2013, 19:15
:)
-Indy
Id take it back, and get one with a number plate if I was you Indy.:niceone:
YellowDog
1st October 2013, 21:27
Id take it back, and get one with a number plate if I was you Indy.:niceone:
No plate = no need for rego :yes:
Indiana_Jones
1st October 2013, 21:33
Yeah, the rego sucks for the diesel :(
-Indy
YellowDog
1st October 2013, 21:42
Yip, but the fuel is as cheap as. Especially if you fit one of those speedo switches :no:
Indiana_Jones
1st October 2013, 21:50
Yip, but the fuel is as cheap as. Especially if you fit one of those speedo switches :no:
If the rego cost was the same as a petrol then I'd be happy. I prefer the system of paying tax on km traveled compared to paying how much petrol my car can guzzle.
Why does a XJ6 have to pay more road tax than a mini?
-Indy
Bender
8th October 2013, 10:52
This should get you landcrab lovers salivating... (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/maxi/auction-647980276.htm)
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/tq/284249666.jpg
Motu
8th October 2013, 16:43
Haven't we been through the ''Maxi isn't a Landcrab'' thing several times before?...?
unstuck
8th October 2013, 17:27
I reckon the pic of the Maxi is taken at port waikato.:devil2:
Indiana_Jones
8th October 2013, 20:00
Haven't we been through the ''Maxi isn't a Landcrab'' thing several times before?...?
True, but at least it's closer to the landcrab than the 1100/1300. A lot of locals seem to call those landcrabs.
-Indy
Indiana_Jones
17th October 2013, 20:36
Omg This comes up for sale bloody after I get a 600....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/rover/75clubcdti/auction-651363292.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/288512835.jpg
-Indy
YellowDog
18th October 2013, 18:02
Come on Indy, play the game!
The rules state that once you have bought a car, you STOP looking :lol:
Indiana_Jones
18th October 2013, 19:45
Come on Indy, play the game!
The rules state that once you have bought a car, you STOP looking :lol:
Pretty much lol, I knew this would happen!
-Indy
ducatilover
18th October 2013, 22:59
You're a very strange man Indy.
Very.
Indiana_Jones
18th October 2013, 23:06
You're a very strange man Indy.
Very.
Why's that? :bleh:
-Indy
ducatilover
18th October 2013, 23:08
Why's that? :bleh:
-Indy
Oh no reason mate :devil2:
Indiana_Jones
18th October 2013, 23:15
Oh no reason mate :devil2:
Lies!
-Indy
YellowDog
19th October 2013, 10:35
Strange - a definition:
A beautiful lady with a perfect body drove up to Indy in Rover 620 Diesel Wagon.
She took all of her clothes off, lay on the grass with her legs open and said "Take What I know you Want".................
Hmmmm.................... We all know what he would take :yes:
Indiana_Jones
19th October 2013, 11:26
Can't I take it in the back of the wagon and then drive off? :lol:
And where the fuck would one get a 620 wag?!
-Indy
YellowDog
19th October 2013, 13:46
Can't I take it in the back of the wagon and then drive off? :lol:
And where the fuck would one get a 620 wag?!
-Indy
Yip, and that's my point! More interested in the Rover spec than the free bike ride :shit:
http://www.freewebs.com/markmastroremixes/Rover%20600%20Estate.JPG
http://i.qkme.me/3uj5dv.jpg
Indiana_Jones
19th October 2013, 14:02
Mrs. Jones had a good laugh from that, cheers lol
-Indy
spanner spinner
20th October 2013, 20:22
Why did they not stick with the Sabrina samwich engine of that era?
Because it never made production only a handful where ever made by hand in the competition department.
Not Triumphs finest hour, what were they thinking?
They weren't by this stage British Leyland limited where a government owned and controlled company, the Honda link was to keep the Japanese happy.
jonbuoy
22nd October 2013, 07:02
So whilst in the UK, I tried to buy this:
Sadly the guy didn't understand my exchange rate :no:
A griff/chimaera 500 wouldn't go amiss either. I dont care for the sound of the other TVR engine configurations - even the flat plane V8's dont do it for me. Cant beat that old school RV8 burble, go kart chassis and smooth fibreglass body.
YellowDog
22nd October 2013, 08:05
A griff/chimaera 500 wouldn't go amiss either. I dont care for the sound of the other TVR engine configurations - even the flat plane V8's dont do it for me. Cant beat that old school RV8 burble, go kart chassis and smooth fibreglass body.
I do love the rawness of the TVRs that I have driven. Unfortunately, real cars that need driving skills are becoming a thing of the past. The levels of refinement on new super cars just serves to make the oldies more attractive.
That tosser on the news who wrapped his $300k Aston around a concrete power pole is a sad example of things to come :(
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb93/andwend/am_zps4861fd17.jpg
ducatilover
23rd October 2013, 19:30
I do love the rawness of the TVRs that I have driven. Unfortunately, real cars that need driving skills are becoming a thing of the past.
That's not entirely true. :bleh: My flatmate's Alfa 147 GTA is a very busy car. It takes a decent amount of skill to get the best out of any modern performance car, barely anybody can pedal something like a 911 Turbo at its limit, or even an MX-5. Older cars just have more fun factor at any speed though :niceone: which is why I like 'em.
YellowDog
14th November 2013, 21:59
That Indy fellow is certainly a bad influence.
I'd never otherwise waste my time checking out any Rover vehicle.
But last weekend I went to Henderson and checked this one out, with view to making an offer:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Rover/auction-657396432.htm
pete376403
15th November 2013, 20:08
That Indy fellow is certainly a bad influence.
I'd never otherwise waste my time checking out any Honda vehicle.
But last weekend I went to Henderson and checked this one out, with view to making an offer:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Rover/auction-657396432.htm
Fixed that for you.
Daughter had one of these, quite nice until the ABS crapped. Think she got a few hundred as a trade-in.
YellowDog
15th November 2013, 20:37
Fixed that for you.
Daughter had one of these, quite nice until the ABS crapped. Think she got a few hundred as a trade-in.
This one was worth nothing at all, so not a disappointment.
The guy has used a spray can to touch up the car. It looks terrible. He doesn't drive it at all. I didn't bother either.
Indiana_Jones
16th November 2013, 20:22
That Indy fellow is certainly a bad influence.
I'd never otherwise waste my time checking out any Rover vehicle.
But last weekend I went to Henderson and checked this one out, with view to making an offer:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Rover/auction-657396432.htm
lol blame me why don't ya?
Never understood those cabriolet cars, though.
-Indy
Indiana_Jones
23rd November 2013, 17:55
Oh nice
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/293779599.jpg
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/maxi/auction-666111027.htm
-Indy
YellowDog
23rd November 2013, 19:36
It's a nice.............................................. ......... colour :yes:
YellowDog
30th November 2013, 09:50
Just waiting on the badges and transfers to arrive and then my TR7 will then be perfect :yes:
ducatilover
30th November 2013, 11:14
Tasty wedge :D
dangerous
30th November 2013, 19:24
Just waiting on the badges and transfers to arrive and then my TR7 will then be perfect :yes:
fucking SAD guy.....................
SVboy
30th November 2013, 19:54
fucking SAD guy.....................
said the man who "used" to drive once.......
YellowDog
1st December 2013, 04:54
fucking SAD guy.....................
Not sad any more, 'cos I got me a TR7 :woohoo:
It's just a commuter to use when I can't use the bike. It's better on fuel too, 'cos I don't drive it like a caaaant :yes:
dangerous
1st December 2013, 07:01
Not sad any more, 'cos I got me a TR7 :woohoo:COOL... is it one that was on tardme recently?
said the man who "used" to drive once.......ohhhhhhhh man, just had to bring that up didnt ya
YellowDog
1st December 2013, 11:50
COOL might be a bit strong to describe it, unless of course I get the optional hairdressing kit for the boot :buggerd:
But it is open top driving that won't let me down and reduces my chance of more demerit points.
Plus the wife thinks it's hers :lol:
unstuck
18th December 2013, 16:11
Was that your marina ute parked outside the ANZ in clutha this morning Scummy? :shifty: Very nice, if it was.:niceone:
Edbear
18th December 2013, 18:33
COOL might be a bit strong to describe it, unless of course I get the optional hairdressing kit for the boot :buggerd:
But it is open top driving that won't let me down and reduces my chance of more demerit points.
Plus the wife thinks it's hers :lol:
Das' funny, I've got a white one that belongs to Mrs. Bear... ;)
scumdog
18th December 2013, 19:55
Was that your marina ute parked outside the ANZ in clutha this morning Scummy? :shifty: Very nice, if it was.:niceone:
Yep it was - where were you when the Missus needed a push?
She had actually run out of petrol right there..."But it was only on E for a short time":facepalm:
And some helpfull young guy pushed it to the Caltex garage, whew!
unstuck
19th December 2013, 07:05
Yep it was - where were you when the Missus needed a push?
She had actually run out of petrol right there..."But it was only on E for a short time":facepalm:
And some helpfull young guy pushed it to the Caltex garage, whew!
I thought it looked a little illegally parked for a :Police: I was on my way to dunners with a salvage trailer too, I could of saved them the push.:2thumbsup
Indiana_Jones
27th December 2013, 13:37
That was a sweet Christmas, got to drive my father in-law's Marina TC Coupe. What a beast hah!
Wasn't too keen on how it handled, just used to the 'crabs handling I guess. But otherwise was a pretty sweet ride.
-Indy
Big Dave
8th January 2014, 17:51
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Big Dave
8th January 2014, 20:08
Yeah Indy - drill down a bit - there's some classic old UK ads and tele.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJYUvKvZA1UDyDzqIbiItqQ
Reviewing Baddiel & Skinner's Reality TV currently - from well before there was Reality TV.
YellowDog
9th January 2014, 06:50
That was a sweet Christmas, got to drive my father in-law's Marina TC Coupe. What a beast hah!
Wasn't too keen on how it handled, just used to the 'crabs handling I guess. But otherwise was a pretty sweet ride.
-Indy
I know what you mean about the Marina's handling, but at least it's consistent.
I can see why he was happy for you to marry his daughter :lol:
Indiana_Jones
9th January 2014, 17:11
I know what you mean about the Marina's handling, but at least it's consistent.
I can see why he was happy for you to marry his daughter :lol:
lol like I asked him for permission :p
In other news, the Wolseley is back on the road :yes:
-Indy
Indiana_Jones
17th January 2014, 08:09
http://www.productioncars.com/send_file.php/ad_wolseley_red_mark2_1970.jpg
-Indy
kiwifruit
10th February 2014, 01:03
Here's my '79 Mini :-D
Indiana_Jones
10th February 2014, 11:57
Looking good mate! :yes:
-Indy
dangerous
10th February 2014, 16:14
hey all, spent the last few days on the road ending up at a bike rally... so while at Wanaka I checked this out http://www.wanakatransportandtoymuseum.com/ BMC and brit shit for miles, awesome place nothing tidy about it shit on shit but a decent car and bike colection.
Indiana_Jones
10th February 2014, 17:25
hey all, spent the last few days on the road ending up at a bike rally... so while at Wanaka I checked this out http://www.wanakatransportandtoymuseum.com/ BMC and brit shit for miles, awesome place nothing tidy about it shit on shit but a decent car and bike colection.
I went there just over a year ago. As you said, good collection, but a lot of them are just sitting outside rusting away.
-Indy
dangerous
14th February 2014, 15:24
Surely to Christ the closest he will get is mid 40's but ohhhh man http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/tr6/auction-696483869.htm
Bender
14th February 2014, 15:53
Surely to Christ the closest he will get is mid 40's but ohhhh man http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/tr6/auction-696483869.htm
Yep, it's bloody nice but not 66 grand nice.
Moi
14th February 2014, 17:37
Surely "Yes, Darhling, I advertised the car, as you told me to do, but no one seems keen to buy it!"
scumdog
14th February 2014, 19:14
Surely to Christ the closest he will get is mid 40's but ohhhh man http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/tr6/auction-696483869.htm
Noice...bloody noice.
At one tenth the price my Mistral was twice the car though....
Virago
14th February 2014, 19:41
The last photo (of the oil cooler) shows some rather shonky looking paint-work (looks like a rattle-can job), and some rough stuff below the normal line of vision.
He's definitely dreaming on the price.
spanner spinner
14th February 2014, 21:03
Surely to Christ the closest he will get is mid 40's but ohhhh man http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/tr6/auction-696483869.htm
any why would you remove the injection to fit bloody webbers unless this is a US import converted to RH drive, in which case the webbers will be a huge improvement on the standard USA emission type carbs.
Motu
14th February 2014, 21:14
Not Leyland, but it is British. I've worked on a shitload of these things - in the '70's your icecream was delivered to your local dairy in a TK or TJ Bedford, it was a big fleet, and I was doing 9 to 16 hours a day on shift work keeping them running. Worked on more Bedfords in a year than most mechanics would in a lifetime....apart from those who stayed there longer than me.
So, 40 years later I get to work on a TK again. This is a '79, one of the last I guess, and has the 500cu in engine, 5 speed and Eaton. The big engine was normally in a bigger truck, this one looks just like a normal TK that would have a 300cu in petrol engine....I guess by the late '70's the 300 petrol or 330 diesel would appear a bit puny, so were upped to a bigger engine. I don't remember trucks being that slow back then, but there was a 50mph speed limit, and this thing is all done at 80kph. I used to row through a 5 speed and 2 speed diff like it was a Roadranger ..just can't be bothered now.
Interesting to come across one of these things again, to see what I was doing in 1974. Just a brake problem, handbrake control valve. It took the Japanese a long time to build a truck that could push the TK off it's pedestal, but that pedestal was full of dry rot and it didn't take much to turn it to dust.
http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af212/bmwr65/2014-02-11162627_zps644f8c7e.jpg
dangerous
15th February 2014, 07:59
any why would you remove the injection to fit bloody webbers unless this is a US import converted to RH drive, in which case the webbers will be a huge improvement on the standard USA emission type carbs.
In which case the webers will be a huge improvement on the standard injection, webers being a standard conversion for the PI set up, unless you could afford to do this 293654
http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=SSE-AD-825410&Cr=5
Not Leyland, but it is British. I've worked on a shitload of these things - in the '70's your icecream was delivered to your local dairy in a TK or TJ Bedford, it was a big fleet, and I was doing 9 to 16 hours a day on shift work keeping them running. Worked on more Bedfords in a year than most mechanics would in a lifetime....apart from those who stayed there longer than me.]
Mate, as I said in a post above somewhere, after being to the national transport and toy musume you'd be blowen away... Or sickened by the Bedford collection there, straight of the road still with rego tags on them, square flat nosed militery and fire apliance things to a j something that Chubb used as armoured security, even a cf230 and the double bumper beddies.
Kickaha
15th February 2014, 10:20
Not Leyland, but it is British. I've worked on a shitload of these things - in the '70's your icecream was delivered to your local dairy in a TK or TJ Bedford, it was a big fleet
The Butchers used to get their deliveries in them to and they were used well into the late eighties, I used to cover a fleet of about 20 doing tyre work on them
Motu
15th February 2014, 10:45
The TK was the most common truck on the road for a long time - same day I was working on the TK, I was also working in an '85 Canter, the Bedford of that size would have the 214 engine and 16in wheels. The Canter was gutless and horrible to drive, the Bedford a far better truck for the job.
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