British Leyland

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/07/British_Leyland_Special_Tools.gif">

-Indy

[slofox]

See?! I was right all the time!

[Laava]

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[Motu]

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=74967


BMC and how it was.British Leyland was them all going down the gurgler.

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/content/images/2006/09/28/austinprincess_420x284.jpg">

-Indy

[merv]

Dang with all the recalls is it Toyota now going the same way - down the gurgler? Is it all a conspiracy by Detroit to even the score?

At least with the Poms they did it all by themselves by sleeping on the night shift.

One thing about the P76 and the Princess they were spacious cars compared to their competition at the time.

[Motu]

There was nothing wrong with the P76...it was just that the Aussies couldn't accept anything better than the big 3...which wasn't hard to do.The P76 and HQ Holden are on different planets.

The Princess wasn't too bad really - the driveline and suspension was well sorted (that means old) but the body was crap.On the old 1800,doing a clutch job meant removing the engine,a big job.But I once did a clutch on an 1800 Princess without removing the engine/gearbox.

There weren't too many special tools...but the flywheel puller was a must on the Mini/1100/1300.But every workshop in the country had one.I used to work on British Leyland car and trucks with enough tools to fit into a 4 draw concertina toolbox - these days I have a 15 draw rollcab with a 7 draw topbox.

[merv]

You remember it was that damned oil crisis that killed the P76 - just after all the investment in putting it into production, big car sales just crashed. The Aussie Chryslers didn't last that much longer and Holden and Ford just squeaked through with some 4 cylinder models. I alway remember the ad for the P76 had it that the boot was so big the Aussie farmer could just chuck the 44 gallon drum in the back.

[Edbear]

There was nothing wrong with the P76...it was just that the Aussies couldn't accept anything better than the big 3...which wasn't hard to do.The P76 and HQ Holden are on different planets.

The Princess wasn't too bad really - the driveline and suspension was well sorted (that means old) but the body was crap.On the old 1800,doing a clutch job meant removing the engine,a big job.But I once did a clutch on an 1800 Princess without removing the engine/gearbox.

There weren't too many special tools...but the flywheel puller was a must on the Mini/1100/1300.But every workshop in the country had one.I used to work on British Leyland car and trucks with enough tools to fit into a 4 draw concertina toolbox - these days I have a 15 draw rollcab with a 7 draw topbox.

I agree with this post! My mother had an 1800 Mk1 and it was a nice car to drive on a long trip. Only mod I made was to put a shield in front of the distributor which was on the "front" of the engine and would get flooded with rain water. The Mk2 had a plastic shield factory fitted. We had an 1100 ourselves and it went really well and had the best headlights of any car I'd owned, again, roomy and comfortable to drive.

My last BMC car was a 1980 Marina 1700 with the alloy head OHC motor and apart from the weak gearbox, which never actually gave me any trouble, the only fault was the Armstrong dampers up front which, if memory serves were fitted with only one upper arm and should have had two. They wore out too soon. Otherwise it was a torquey and comfortable car to travel in.

[Edbear]

You remember it was that damned oil crisis that killed the P76 - just after all the investment in putting it into production, big car sales just crashed. The Aussie Chryslers didn't last that much longer and Holden and Ford just squeaked through with some 4 cylinder models. I alway remember the ad for the P76 had it that the boot was so big the Aussie farmer could just chuck the 44 gallon drum in the back.

It was a great motor, too! Very popular as an alternative repower to the 3.5lt Rover and being 4.4lt could put out some serious power when worked over. Was wider than the 3.5 but plenty strong enough.

[YellowDog]

I had one of these:

http://www.fnader.com/Copy%20(2)%20of%20P1020247.JPG

And then one of these:

http://autocade.net/images/c/c0/Morris_Marina_Super.jpg

And then one of these:

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200703/1975-triumph-tr7-4_460x0w.jpg

The TR7 was the worst car I have ever owned. I gave up after 3.5 new engines.

British Leyland certainly showed those Japs how NOT to build a car.

[Indiana_Jones]

I own one of these....


<img src="http://www.australiaoncd.com.au/images/wolseley_1885.gif">

-Indy

[JMemonic]

The P76 and Princess were Aussie Leyland, the Brits hated them, one of the killers of them was the fact an overly intelligent bloke in the UK look at the population figures for the UK and Aussie and decided that if the mini was the fine for them then it should be fine for the Aussies.

The P76 went well with the Toyota corolla gearbox mounted behind it. As has been said the 4.4 litre engine went very well with a few minor alterations, altering the timing to 5° BTDC and the addition of a 350FCM Holley made a huge difference. There was an interesting track test done by one of the Aussie car mags with the Holden, Ford, Valiant, and the P76 on the same track, there was one bend the test driver had difficulty believing the P76 could take at the speed it did and had to go back several times to prove to himself that the car really could go through it considerably faster than the others and with less body movement thanks to the then radical suspension.

[Laava]

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[avgas]

Ah yes good old Leyland's
They oozed potential
















all over the driveway

[Motu]

Wow,you have a Wolseley 18/85! Just an Austin 1800 of course,just a bit tarted up.They had powersteering,which they didn't need,and made them a bit tighter under the bonnet.They were one of the first cars to have radial tyres fitted as standard.I've had a couple of 1800's...or more.They really handle well on the open road (no body roll) and the hydrolastics give the best ride ever on rutted gravel roads.My 1st one was a '65,the very first model with crash 1st gear.The fuel pump used to cut out,and I would fire it up again with a flick of the key....but sometimes it would stop at the lights.My other one was a MkI too,but I fitted a lot of MkII parts from a MkII I stole....well,I didn't know I had stolen an abandoned vehicle,but I didn't give it back either.We had a ute at one place I worked,they were on crossplies,and had massive understeer - but I still managed to 180 it a couple of times.

[MaxB]

I had one of these. A Rover SD1 V8. One of Leylands finest I reckon. Mine was a Nelson one. That meant cloth insted of leather and no Efi. But it was a very tunable motor and mine wasn't standard for long.

I got mine from a dealer and on the test drive he stuck it at 180 indicated on the then incomplete south western motorway. It just stayed there without any fuss. Then he took his hands off the wheel. And it tracked straight and true. I pretty much bought it there and then.

Being a pommie car it had its faults. The worst was that when it rained like it does in Auckland the 2 glove boxes used to fill up with water. I learned to keep my stuff in ziplock bags.

I kept it for 15 years and was never off the road for more than 24 hours in that time. Apart from when an Indian backed over it in a Land Cruiser.

[KiWiP]

I had one of these
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/1976.morris.marina.arp.jpg/250px-1976.morris.marina.arp.jpg
The previous owner had squeezed a 3L engine into it which leaked alarming amounts of petrol (never caught fire though). No other upgrading had been done, brakes suspension etc
It went very fast, and didn't appear to care which way the wheels were pointing. It was an independent soul that chose it's own path. Although it used to scare me a lot I did have a huge amount of respect for a car that could apparently kill at will but managed to restrain it's 'Christine' tendencies (at least while I was present). But the best bit was the maneuverability and velour covering of the seats making it a superior shagging wagon :yeah:

[Motu]

The 6 cyl SD1 was a true unicam,unlike the Honda unicam which uses 4 lobes.The Rover engine had a single cam lobe for each cyl,doing both inlet and exhaust valves.I onced worked at a Rover agent and got to work on a fair few SD1's,they were interesting - but not a real Rover.

[Virago]

Aah, sweet memories. I've had a few BL cars in the misty past, and still have a soft spot for their idiosyncratic bloody-minded designs and engineering.

Ah yes, the Marina gearbox. I spent most of my early 20s underneath my Marina.

Now, who can tell me - which BL car was renowned for being more aerodynamic when going backwards than forwards...?

[MaxB]

I had one of these

The previous owner had squeezed a 3L engine into it which leaked alarming amounts of petrol (never caught fire though). No other upgrading had been done, brakes suspension etc
It went very fast, and didn't appear to care which way the wheels were pointing. It was an independent soul that chose it's own path. Although it used to scare me a lot I did have a huge amount of respect for a car that could apparently kill at will but managed to restrain it's 'Christine' tendencies (at least while I was present). But the best bit was the maneuverability and velour covering of the seats making it a superior shagging wagon :yeah:

Could it have been the Leyland Marina Six running the E-series 2600cc? If so it would be worth a fortune 'cos there are not a lot of them around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Marina

[Virago]

I own one of these...

Very pretty. Now show us a photo of your one...:D

[Indiana_Jones]

Very pretty. Now show us a photo of your one...:D


<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=194354&d=1265365101">


Wow,you have a Wolseley 18/85! Just an Austin 1800 of course,just a bit tarted up.They had powersteering,which they didn't need,and made them a bit tighter under the bonnet.They were one of the first cars to have radial tyres fitted as standard.I've had a couple of 1800's...or more.They really handle well on the open road (no body roll) and the hydrolastics give the best ride ever on rutted gravel roads.

Yea, pretty much the same thing, just the tail lights and pig-nose grill are the main differences to see.

I donno if mine has power steering, was it an option or standard? cause it sure as hell doesn't feel like it has it!

Also mine is an 18/85s which came with the twin carbs stock, but a previous owner has removed the twins and put in a slightly bigger single carb.

-Indy

[cs363]

First class travel.....

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VBeupDBkJmY/SpS48zekfWI/AAAAAAAAAGc/-Un4DmljIuo/s400/allegro1.jpg

:whistle: :whistle:

[pete376403]

All this P76 talk and no-one has mentioned the Force 7. So I did. Not all of them ended up in the crusher after the design was abandoned.

[cs363]

Those were the days:

http://www.malaysiaminilover.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/minicooper_enginecode4.jpg

[Edbear]

All this P76 talk and no-one has mentioned the Force 7. So I did. Not all of them ended up in the crusher after the design was abandoned.

Try and find one now! I remember the magazine reports on it and at the time I thought it was about the coolest thing on the road! So many were disappointed it didn't go ahead!

[JMemonic]

All this P76 talk and no-one has mentioned the Force 7. So I did. Not all of them ended up in the crusher after the design was abandoned.

There were quite a few force 7v's that made it out of the assembly line, none made it here although rumour had it they nearly did but got dumped in some large landfill in Wellington, the real trick would have been to own the station wagon, only the prototype survived.

[merv]

Now, who can tell me - which BL car was renowned for being more aerodynamic when going backwards than forwards...?

Would that be the Allegro?

[bungbung]

I had a SD1 5spd. It had worn out SU carbs which I swapped out for a holley 390

[MisterD]

I spent a good few hours behind the wheel of one of these:

http://www.steelestractors.com/gallery/2007/Fiferally07/Fiferally07-094.jpg

[jim.cox]

Wouldn't call it a daily driver

But my car looks like this...

195984

[Swoop]

Would that be the Allegro?

Yes it would!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Allegro
A commonly-given example of the Allegro's poor design is that it is more aerodynamic when travelling backwards than it is when going forwards. While this is true, the Allegro is far from unique in this respect. Most hatchbacks of the era (especially those designed before wind tunnel testing became extensive), with a sloping rear end containing the rear window and boot lid and a flat front holding a radiator grille and headlamps, have the same property.

[avgas]

Wouldn't call it a daily driver

But my car looks like this...

195984
Phhhhhhht
Why don't you come to the dark side?
http://englishrussia.com/images/volga_landrover/3.jpg

[jim.cox]

Why don't you come to the dark side?


Never

I LIKE driving British

And besides my wife wouldn't let me :)

[peasea]

Having spent my formative years in the motor trade under the hood of, and delveing into the workings of, many of the vehicles I see here all I can offer the owners of such machinery (if you can call it that) is my sympathy.

A Mini Cooper I could understand (and maybe a Jag or a Roller for a night out) but little else from Old Blighty gets my blood going.

British Leyland? What a snigger.

[Laava]

I had to replace a timing belt on a Lada station wagon once and road test it. British leyland, all is forgiven!

[jim.cox]

Try a Lada Niva...

Classic Italian engine - Classic Italian reliability - With added Russian

[Ixion]

Having spent my formative years in the motor trade under the hood of, and delveing into the workings of, many of the vehicles I see here all I can offer the owners of such machinery (if you can call it that) is my sympathy.

A Mini Cooper I could understand (and maybe a Jag or a Roller for a night out) but little else from Old Blighty gets my blood going.

British Leyland? What a snigger.

Alvis.? Morgan ? Riley (RME, not BMC) ? Austin-Healey? Jensen ? Bristol ? Lanchester? AC ? Sunbeam Tiger ? Talbot (or any of Mr Roesch's efforts) ? Frazer-Nash? Sunbeam?

[Big Dave]

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I used to get a lift to my first job (Copy Boy - Sydney Morning Herald) in exactly one of them. he had a land crab too and his son had a morrie 1100 with a 'It floats on beer' sticker.

[PirateJafa]

I own one of these....

Have you learnt to drive yet?

[Pedrostt500]

Its been many years since I've worked on Pommie shit, thank god I don't have to any more. I can remember being showen an XJ6 of about a 1983 model, it wasn't very old at the time months not years, and the paint work was fading fast.

[peasea]

Alvis.? Morgan ? Riley (RME, not BMC) ? Austin-Healey? Jensen ? Bristol ? Lanchester? AC ? Sunbeam Tiger ? Talbot (or any of Mr Roesch's efforts) ? Frazer-Nash? Sunbeam?

Alright, alright, shaddup.
Aston Martin! Ok?
Happy now?

[Virago]

Its been many years since I've worked on Pommie shit, thank god I don't have to any more. I can remember being showen an XJ6 of about a 1983 model, it wasn't very old at the time months not years, and the paint work was fading fast.

Yeah, it's sad that BL got its hooks into Jaguar around that time.

BL was sinking in a swamp of militant unionism, and an appalling attitude to quality control. The link with Jaguar didn't improve the BL approach - they simply dragged the Jag image and quality down.

Luckily Jaguar was able to pull free and survived the sad interlude.

[Big Dave]

Ahhh, the halcyon days...
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[Badjelly]

Try a Lada Niva...

We had one as a work vehicle. It idled at any speed it damn-well chose. The rev counter was a bonus, in theory, in such a modest vehicle but it tended to work in a sort of a bounce mode that was a bit hard to interpret quantitatively. Anyway, you could tell the revs were approaching 60% of maximum by the rattling noise from the top end.

[Badjelly]

BL was sinking in a swamp of militant unionism, and an appalling attitude to quality control.

Like BSA-Triumph?

[Indiana_Jones]

Have you learnt to drive yet?

One step at a time now

-Indy

[phred]

Nice one Big Dave. Tears in my eyes.

[Motu]

... an XJ6 of about a 1983 model, it wasn't very old at the time months not years, and the paint work was fading fast.

I heard that nearly every P76 had to be repainted before sale....or so I was told by a painter from Motorcorp.But this is not a reflection on Motorcorp,but on the NZ paint industry of the time.Our paint was crap in those days,particually the metallics.And not just British cars - remember scab rust? Toyota,Honda and maybe others were still doing full repaints under warranty into the '90's.

[KiWiP]

Could it have been the Leyland Marina Six running the E-series 2600cc? If so it would be worth a fortune 'cos there are not a lot of them around.

Ah I got all excited there that I had a special car but looked at engine on wikipedia and it wasn't it. Mine was absolutely shoehorned in and lateral not transverse. It was most definitely a bodgit job.

Seat were awesome though. Mmmmhhh sweet memories LOL

[cs363]

- remember scab rust? Toyota,Honda and maybe others were still doing full repaints under warranty into the '90's.

Oh yes! Makes the current Toyota Prius and Honda Jazz issues look like small change (at least as far as NZ is concerned) - just shows how quickly consumers forget.

[geoffm]

I leant to drive on a P5B Rover - the one with the 3.5l V8. A damn fast car - i beleive they were called the "Cat Catchers" in the UK when the UK cops used them as they were the only thing to keep up with the Jags. Not really a learners car... My mother had it for 20 years before some scum in Tuakau stole it and trashed it and rammed it into a tree. it was never the same after it was fixed and was sold to a Rover collector who had a lot of them.
Folks also had a series of Range Rovers from 1975 onwards. Gas was cheap then.... The '75 was a very reliable vehicle - did a lot of miles in it and it eas pretty flogged out and rusty when it was sold with unknown miles (Odo died years before). The replacement was not as reliable and more Lucas parts.

Other car I learnt on and did a lot of miles was a P76 - a damn good under rated car. There were a lot of them in Puke at the time as the dealer must have been a good salesman. Haven't seen one for years.

Not a BL product, but equally crap was the CF Bedford van i bought to carry bikes (like this one http://www.vocnz.org.nz/Bedf_hist/CF%20Bedford%201983.jpg and blue like this one http://www.bedford-cf.co.uk/br/br1.htm. Pretty much the first car I bought - it came from teh auction for $800, needed a new clutch, was 10 years old and a collection of rust traveling in formation. All CFs rusted out behind the back wheels, due to a brilliant design feature that was there for the 20 years they made them. The floorpan, rear and side of the van didn't quite meet leaving a T shaped slot, which collected the water kicked up from the back wheels and channeled it inside the rear wing and under the doors. The underpowered 2.3l motor drank big quantities of oil and petrol like an alky locked into a distillery, combined with a petrol guage that was wildly optimistic about the contents of the tank...
I did a lot of miles in it and moved home a couple of times with it, but the Hiace Jumbo that replaced it was a much, much better van. It was no surprise the British car industry died.

[Ixion]

Company I worked for had about a dozen Marina 1700s . All of them, without exception, killed their gearboxes at an early mileage. Several killed the second gearbox, one killed the third, before they were disposed of (at normal "corporate get rid off" ages)

I owned two (non company) Marina 1700s, did about 50000 km in each, and they had between 50000 and 80000 on them when I bought them. No gearbox issues at all. Perfect. Go figure

But I have always been very easy on gearboxes.

(my conclusion is that sales reps should not beentrusted with ANY form of powered transport)

[Motu]

sales reps should not beentrusted with ANY form of powered transport)

Fleet use shows up faults in any vehicle...and the Marina was a bad fleet vehicle.The HQ Holden got it's legendary reputation from being a fleet vehicle,not because it was a great car.Another good example was the TK Bedford and D series Fords - the D cab Ford was crap in a Fleet,but was a really good truck as an only driver or owner driver.The shitty TK Beddy was a great fleet truck,able to take abuse from multiple drivers.

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01403/triumph-herald_1403859c.jpg">

-Indy

[Edbear]

<img src="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01403/triumph-herald_1403859c.jpg">

-Indy

Their chassis could handle a V8, their suspensions and bodies couldn't handle NZ roads. Made a great platform for kit cars, of course. Good little engines, though...

[madmal64]

<img src="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01403/triumph-herald_1403859c.jpg">

-Indy

1964 English assembled one in my collection. Time for a restoration. I have promised it to my oldest daughter for her 21st present. Been in the family since new. Imported for my grandparents by my father when he worked at Amuri Motors.

[martybabe]

I lived and worked in the shadow of British leyland/Rover/Morris /Bmc/MG all my life, almost everyone I knew had someone working? at that place. As a Fireman I regularly attended major incidents down there or practised traffic accident situations by cutting up the reject car shells. If it wasn't for the fact that it employed half of the people in Britain's second city, I think we would have done the world a favour if we'd just sat back and watched the place burn to the ground.

It was a standing joke in Birmingham, as the first post points out, a hammer was indeed known as a Birmingham screwdriver, most of the workers turned up for work in foreign cars despite a buy a car cheap scheme for the workers and I distinctly remember one of the big wigs proudly announcing that quality control was done by the public i.e. they produced a new car then sold them to the world and waited for the feed back to find out what was wrong with them.

The place was a total disaster with inept management, disillusioned workers, corrupt unions and a crap product, sad as it was to see thousands of people thrown in the dole queues it was always going to happen, it's the fact that they got away with it for so long that amazes me.

I visited last year and all you can see for miles is big empty industrial lots for sale, the only hard evidence that it ever existed is a few photographs on the wall of the local supermarket. It was very sad to see such decimation of a huge industry and the effect of it's closure will linger on for years for the families of those involved but the truth is, the cars they made are better off as nostalgic links to the past than they ever were on the road. Gone and not forgotten but you can only fool the world for so long. If people hadn't bought "British" in a patriotic effort to keep British jobs and a car industry of our own, the entire thing would have collapsed in the late sixties/early seventies, whenever it was that Mr Toyota and his mates came knocking on the door.

Once the industrial centre of the world from whence came BSA, Triumph, Rover,Austin,Morgan,Jensen, Aston martin? Jaguar, spitfires, Land Rovers And hundreds of other marques, Most of them nothing but memories now, blardy sad.

[Indiana_Jones]

They're crap yet somewhat popular,

It boggles the mind lol

I guess it's novel as most people in my age group, in this country, mainly only know Jap shit.

-Indy

[merv]

Our only claim to fame with British Leyland is that Mrs merv had a 1973 Mini 1000 assembled in NZ. We sold it in 1981 and bought our first Honda Accord and never looked back.

[Indiana_Jones]

I even like the colour ;)

-Indy

[merv]

That colour was so late 60's early 70's - my Bro' had a VW1500 Beetle in similar colour.

I had a metallic bronze 1970 Hillman Hunter woohoo no BL for me :woohoo:

[Indiana_Jones]

That colour was so late 60's early 70's - my Bro' had a VW1500 Beetle in similar colour.

I had a metallic bronze 1970 Hillman Hunter woohoo no BL for me :woohoo:

And what a colour lol

And no BL? you're just wicked jealous....

-Indy

[Mikkel]

Never in the field of human endeavour has so much been done, so badly, by so many.

Morris Marina's also have an almost magnetic attraction on pianos.

[Magua]

Rolls-Royce Phantom Two. 4.3 litre, 30 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with Stromberg Downdraft carburetor. Can go from zero to 100 kilometres an hour in 12.5 seconds. And I even like the color.

[Virago]

Rolls-Royce Phantom Two. 4.3 litre, 30 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with Stromberg Downdraft carburetor. Can go from zero to 100 kilometres an hour in 12.5 seconds. And I even like the color.

Someone had to do it in an Indy thread...:p

[avgas]

Rolls-Royce Phantom Two. 4.3 litre, 30 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with Stromberg Downdraft carburetor. Can go from zero to 100 kilometres an hour in 12.5 seconds. And I even like the color.
Pfffft......what a slow heap
Auburn speedster (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1928-1936-auburn-speedsters1.htm)
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1928-1936-auburn-speedsters-3.jpg
..............is where the fun is at

[ducatilover]

Mine is brittish, but, not leyland.

A freinds wee Sunbeam Rapist. I garuantee it's the best in the country.
And who need Brit leyland when you get to play with a 51 Mercury? :woohoo:

[KiWiP]

WooHoo a rapier. One of my favorite bag of nails. It was seriously rubbish but I loved it. I bought it on a whim because I loved the way the central pillar disappeared when the front and rear windows were wound down. Just like a Maseratti! (I was 24 and in love forgive me). It was basically a Hillman hunter with fastback shell. Mine was lucky enough to have twin Holly carbs that needed balancing every full moon. I wasn't lucky though as the extra oomph from the carbs gave (on paper) 130bhp into a car that with a standard 85bhp had already invented drifting before the the first snowfall of winter. It was skittery but fun. Sort of like taking a crack addict to your sisters wedding.
Because I had neglected to look at anything other than the gold paintwork and awesome Italian styled windows, I missed a minor technical point. The overdrive would randomly throw itself out. The first time this happened was a couple of days after buying it on the A505 outside of Royston doing about 120mph I was passing some lesser mortal when I appeared to shoot backwards as my speed dropped 40mph in less than a second, my bowels tried to exit through my old chap and my hearing was permanently damaged, I'm not sure if this was through my screaming or the laughter from the car I had just been passing as it shot off into the delights that is Royston. A quick check of the Haynes showed that there was a small switch in the overdrive that would pull out the overdrive if you went down to 1st or 2nd. Problem solved by driving with my left knee permanently pressed hard on the gear stick to absorb the vibration that knocked out the switch. If you look closely you can still see a 4 and 5 imprinted deep into the skin.
I sadly had to sell it 6 months later as my bank manager said it would be cheaper to buy Shell than keep forking out on petrol. This photo was taken on my final Sunday drive http://i45.tinypic.com/2i1hvnl.jpg
note the ridiculous lengths I had to go to to get to the end of the street.
Sold it to a lovely young couple who 'walked' up to my house the day after buying it. Nothing a quick whack with a 4lb sledge didn't fix and she was out of my life forever. Ahh happy days

[Big Dave]

bought our first Honda Accord and never looked back.

I can do you a deal on a full set of mirrors.

[pete376403]

WooHoo a rapier. One of my favorite bag of nails. It was seriously rubbish but I loved it. I bought it on a whim because I loved the way the central pillar disappeared when the front and rear windows were wound down. Just like a Maseratti! (I was 24 and in love forgive me). It was basically a Hillman hunter with fastback shell. Mine was lucky enough to have twin Holly carbs that needed balancing every full moon.
The 1725cc Rapier came in two rates of tune; the 76bhp standard version, and the 93bhp H120. The H120's engine featured twin dual-choke Weber carburettors, and was developed by notable Rootes tuners, Holbay. That would be a nice car to have today
http://www.rootes-chrysler.co.uk/car-development/dev-hunter.html

[merv]

OK we doing Rootes Group now are we? Here's my Hillman Hunter and yes we were hauling trail bikes around then too, July 1975 at Arrowtown. All the cool guys had yellow sump guards then too haha. It was a 1970 model and I kept it 14 years :woohoo:

[dipshit]

My mates always got a laugh out of my Hillman Hunter that had 'Rootes' written across the front dash.

[Edbear]

I had a Hunter Super auto. I liked the body shape and room, but it was noisy and drank petrol at a rate that made my V8 seem economical!

My Bro-in-law had one but he couldn't leave a car standard and his one would blow a few V8's away...

[Indiana_Jones]

Loving all the old pics you guys have, keep it up :)

-Indy

[Motu]

I swapped my nice CB750 (the common as one with the red tank and gold stripe) for a '73 Singer Vogue,the colour was called pewter....they were just a Hunter with a wood dash.Hard to believe a CB750 and Hillman Hunter were worth the same money at the time.They had a stupid breather that filled the air filter with oil,and as the motor was quite rooted,I put a road tube exiting in front of the left rear wheel.One day my wife got flagged down by an excited person yelling that her rear tyre was on fire.When I finally pulled the engine apart,I found a gudgeon pin circlip had come out,and there was a big slot in the bore...but a set of rings fixed it.It jumped out of 2 gears - 2nd and 3rd.One day it was in a prang,not our fault and their insurance payed out $1,000....I found a strut down at the dump,and sold it for $800.So I ended up recouping more than the agreed value of the swap...$1,600.

With the $800 I bought an Austin 1800.

[Motu]

So back to Austin - one day I was rear ended by a Hillman Hunter,I looked back and saw the front wheel of the Hunter touching my back wheel.Shit,I thought...this is going to be 2 fucked cars.But when I pushed the Hunter back I found the 1800 had a cracked indicator lens....and I made her pay me $35 for a new one.

The Hunter was a Write Off.....

I once witnessed a head on between an Austin 1800 and a Hillman Imp - there was practically nothing left of the Imp in front of the windscreen....and of course the 1800 drove away with just minor damage.

[merv]

My mates always got a laugh out of my Hillman Hunter that had 'Rootes' written across the front dash.

Chicks alway asked "what's that for?"

[Indiana_Jones]

So back to Austin - one day I was rear ended by a Hillman Hunter,I looked back and saw the front wheel of the Hunter touching my back wheel.Shit,I thought...this is going to be 2 fucked cars.But when I pushed the Hunter back I found the 1800 had a cracked indicator lens....and I made her pay me $35 for a new one.

The Hunter was a Write Off.....

I once witnessed a head on between an Austin 1800 and a Hillman Imp - there was practically nothing left of the Imp in front of the windscreen....and of course the 1800 drove away with just minor damage.

I suddenly feel so much better about my 1800 now lol

-Indy

[Edbear]

So back to Austin - one day I was rear ended by a Hillman Hunter,I looked back and saw the front wheel of the Hunter touching my back wheel.Shit,I thought...this is going to be 2 fucked cars.But when I pushed the Hunter back I found the 1800 had a cracked indicator lens....and I made her pay me $35 for a new one.

The Hunter was a Write Off.....

I once witnessed a head on between an Austin 1800 and a Hillman Imp - there was practically nothing left of the Imp in front of the windscreen....and of course the 1800 drove away with just minor damage.


I suddenly feel so much better about my 1800 now lol

-Indy

I was forced off the road once by a cattle truck, (narrow winding gravel road), and took out a strainer post and 20' of the farmer's fence. Slight bend in the left side guard, cost $40 to straighten by the panelbeater. Couldn't really notice the damage unless looking for it...

[Laava]

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[Motu]

Once I sold (no,not really,I gave it away) my last 1800,I had to get rid of the 2 donor wrecks off my back yard.I had winched them in there,up against the house at right angles to the drive.So I hooked up the 'Cruisers PTO winch to one and dragged it out and into the drive....but now there was no way to get the other one out.I would have to tow one away,then come back for the other.So I ran the winch cable around the belt line of one 1800,bottom of the window line around A,B and C pillars,and used it as a fulcrum to pull the other one around the house and up the drive.The old girl leaned into the strain,but didn't budge.When I had a look at the damage...there was none!! Just scrapped the paint from A and C pillers,no indentation from the wire rope or anything.

The Austin 1800 is the toughest car I've ever seen.I once towed a D1000 Ford truck with our 1800 ute.

[Edbear]

Yup! Bro-in-law did one as a dirt track car in Wellsford years ago. Hotted up the engine, locked it in 2nd, replaced the rubber-cushed universals with solid and raced it very successfully! Having the radiator on the side protected that and the motor never died that I can recall despite the extreme revving it got. No-one could damage it enough on the track to knock it out of a race.

[dipshit]

I guess ugly can be good!

Watch this. Smart car vs concrete barrier at 70 mph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s&feature=fvw

[pete376403]

I once witnessed a head on between an Austin 1800 and a Hillman Imp - there was practically nothing left of the Imp in front of the windscreen....and of course the 1800 drove away with just minor damage.

I beg to differ - I had a (w)imp and had a minor traffic bingle with some other brand of car (forget what) anyway the Imp had a bit of a crease above the headlight, the other car needed a new front wing. I guess the outcome of every prang is different.

The Imp should have been a lot better than it was. Being built in Scotland didn't help.

[Motu]

Um....this was an Austin 1800 against an Imp - that's like a brick wall against an Imp.Yes,I've some good results of Imp's in prangs,but they are much lighter in front sheetmetal than an 1800.

[bungbung]

Oh yeah, Rootes group - Myself and flatmate scored a Commer cob for the price of ownership changeover $25, it took us a couple of weeks to work out that the starter was operated by a pull out switch on the dash. That saved a lot of pushing.
http://www.vic.rootesgroup.org.au/material/B24581.jpg

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Austin/auction-273291864.htm

Oh it's a keeper!

-Indy

[Motu]

Wow,it's a MKII - twin engine mounts,spin on filter,alternator,tandem master cyl.All the good stuff.

[Edbear]

Wow,it's a MKII - twin engine mounts,spin on filter,alternator,tandem master cyl.All the good stuff.

Extended rear guards...

Personallly I like the Mk1 better

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=197935&d=1266827383"> .

-Indy

[Motu]

Personallly I like the Mk1 better

Me too - I had 2 MKI's.One of the main problems with the MKI was the right engine mount,it was mounted to the engine and delaminated the rubber bonding.The MKII had two seperate mounts not on the engine.I converted my last MKI to MKII mounts,other mods were Kimberley bottom inner suspn bushes,which were much better,and Hardy Spicer universal joints so I didn't have to keep replacing rubber crosses.I also fitted a proper PCV valve,and Falcon radius rod bushes...to handle rough gravel roads.

Nice one Indy,some people might laugh....but you can smirk.That's way cooler.

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=198069&d=1266831942">

Wood needs some work, as does the carpet lol

-Indy

[merv]

Now you are talking Motu, you mentioned the Kimberley. It always looked so much flasher than the Tasman. I thought the Kimberley should have done better sales-wise than it did but that first oil crisis was cruel as no one really expected it. Bigger cars just flopped.

[Motu]

The Kimberly was British Leyland,as opposed to BMC and Isognosis - BMC was Sir Alec Isognosis coming up with some well engineered cars with radical ideas and maximum interior space (Morris Minor,Series II Oxford,Mini,1100,1800),British Leyland was the British motor industry going down the gurgler.Sort of like Norton Villiers Triumph.Doomed before they started.

[pete376403]

Didn't the Kimberley use the same engine that was the 6 cyl option for the P76?
And bending the thread a bit from Leyland to just plain odd, anyone remember the Chrysler 180? A French Simca with its 2 litre 4 cyl replaced by a hemi 6 (215 or 245, not sure) which means someone somewhere would have put an E49 in. That could have been interesting.
But the cars bombed because of Aussie consumer backlash against french nuke testing, so they never sold well.

[Indiana_Jones]

The Kimberly was British Leyland,as opposed to BMC and Isognosis - BMC was Sir Alec Isognosis coming up with some well engineered cars with radical ideas and maximum interior space (Morris Minor,Series II Oxford,Mini,1100,1800),British Leyland was the British motor industry going down the gurgler.Sort of like Norton Villiers Triumph.Doomed before they started.

Hear Hear.

-Indy

[Ixion]

Wasn't there a 2200cc version of the 1800? Or did I imagine that?

I also have vague memories of a four wheel drive version cleaning up in rallying.

[Edbear]

Wasn't there a 2200cc version of the 1800? Or did I imagine that?

I also have vague memories of a four wheel drive version cleaning up in rallying.

There was and it was imaginatively called the Austin 2200. There was one on TradeMe the other week Not sure about the 4WD though.

[Motu]

BMC were never able to make a 4 cyl bigger than 1800...I've heard of bigger,they must be stroked because the 1800 engine was the max bore they could go.This is because the boring machine they used was built back in the '30's when they made engines to the RAC hp rating....this penalised bore size,so they made long stroke engines.By the '60's bores were bigger,but the boring machine couldn't be extended for more spacing.The 1800 has siamesed bores and is as far as they could take it.

Just another reason for their demise - they couldn't afford to retool,and just had to keep trying to use the old tooling.It was the same throughout the British motor industry....Ford and Vauxhaul were able to use their German factories....and some US stuff as well.It's alright to sit here over 30 years later and say why didn't they just buy new tooling,but it just wasn't possible at the time.Anyone who has been in business will know the catch 22 of updating your plant.....and why don't you just go out and buy a new bike today? I sure can't afford it....and if I did it anyway,other parts of my life would come crashing down.

[Edbear]

Remember the Gypsy? http://www.allisons.org/ll/4/Austin/Gipsy/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_1800

[Indiana_Jones]

There was and it was imaginatively called the Austin 2200. There was one on TradeMe the other week Not sure about the 4WD though.

They also made it in a Wolseley version, with another original name, the Wolseley Six :sunny:


<img src="http://www.motorbase.com/pictures/contributions/20000828/20000315/std_1972_Wolseley_Six_white__-LF-2.jpg">

They are 6 cylinders rather then 4.

-Indy

[Edbear]

Quite correct! I found the one for sale...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Austin/2200/auction-273179595.htm

[Edbear]

And now for my all time favourite Austin...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Austin/HEALEY/auction-272892452.htm

[pete376403]

Remember the Gypsy? http://www.allisons.org/ll/4/Austin/Gipsy/]

Remember its Daddy? (Austin Champ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Champ

[Virago]

And now for my all time favourite Austin...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Austin/HEALEY/auction-272892452.htm

That is gorgeous. In British Racing Green too...

Still, $40K though...

[Edbear]

That is gorgeous. In British Racing Green too...

Still, $40K though...

Yeah, makes me sad. I just can't afford all the toys, so many classics, so little money...

[240]

Ah British Leyland!!
I started my apprenticeship in '79 at NZMC and one of the first jobs i got was to help with doing a clutch on an old 1800.At the end of the day i thought fuck this! if this is what a being a mechanic is going to be like you can stick it up your arse!:gob:Luckily the mechanic who was doing the job told me that they often give a truly shit job to the new boy to harden him up,so it would not allways be this bad.
I thought o.k i can handle that then the next job was a by pass hose on a mini!! fucken hell what were the poms thinking??:angry:
So there we go days and years of pumping up suspensions,doing brakes on minis at their first service (and every 5,000ks thereafter),adjusting ball joints,valve grinds on b series engines,cam chains on 1750 maxis,engine mounts on 1100s,gear levers on marinas,engine out and gaskets and seals replaced at 1,500 km on minis to temporarily fix the oil leaks,trying to get a Marina to turn a corner without the door handles scraping on the ground,and don't get me started on the sd1 Rover!!:sick:etc etc etc.
Then along came Honda....change oil and filter..all done.!:yes:
Gotta say though I do look back with a smile on those days and the Brit stuff was high maintenance (very) but i still like them!
In fact give me a 2 door Marina coupe with the 1750 twin carb motor (yes i know it handled like a 1940 American school bus and it looked like spongebob squarepants) over a Honda Accord any day!
From reading some posts on here it seems a couple of you guys know may just know where I am coming from.:yes:

[SixPackBack]

BMC were never able to make a 4 cyl bigger than 1800...I've heard of bigger,they must be stroked because the 1800 engine was the max bore they could go.This is because the boring machine they used was built back in the '30's when they made engines to the RAC hp rating....this penalised bore size,so they made long stroke engines.By the '60's bores were bigger,but the boring machine couldn't be extended for more spacing.The 1800 has siamesed bores and is as far as they could take it.

Just another reason for their demise - they couldn't afford to retool,and just had to keep trying to use the old tooling.It was the same throughout the British motor industry....Ford and Vauxhaul were able to use their German factories....and some US stuff as well.It's alright to sit here over 30 years later and say why didn't they just buy new tooling,but it just wasn't possible at the time.Anyone who has been in business will know the catch 22 of updating your plant.....and why don't you just go out and buy a new bike today? I sure can't afford it....and if I did it anyway,other parts of my life would come crashing down.

Do you have any supporting evidence on the boring machine issue?

[Virago]

...Gotta say though I do look back with a smile on those days and the Brit stuff was high maintenance (very) but i still like them!
In fact give me a 2 door Marina coupe with the 1750 twin carb motor (yes i know it handled like a 1940 American school bus and it looked like spongebob squarepants) over a Honda Accord any day!
From reading some posts on here it seems a couple of you guys know may just know where I am coming from.:yes:

Yep, know exactly where you're coming from.

It's not just BL stuff, most of the British motor industry product from the 50s, 60s and 70s can be looked upon with exasperated fondness. No rose-tinted glasses now, we can see the stupid engineering flaws for what they were. But many of the cars can now be viewed as design classics.

Best looked at with nostalgic indulgence, leaving the frustrations of ownership to the mechanically and financially well-endowed.

[Motu]

Do you have any supporting evidence on the boring machine issue?

There is a book all about the B block engine,explained in there.Tech Books should have it,but if you don't want to buy it just to prove me wrong,any good library should have it.

[SixPackBack]

There is a book all about the B block engine,explained in there.Tech Books should have it,but if you don't want to buy it just to prove me wrong,any good library should have it.

Cheers. Might look into that.

[Motu]

Ah British Leyland!!
I started my apprenticeship in '79 at NZMC and one of the first jobs i got was to help with doing a clutch on an old 1800 then the next job was a by pass hose on a mini!! fucken hell what were the poms thinking??:angry:


Yeah,a clutch on an 1800 is a pretty rough start....but they weren't that hard,just a lot of work,but I'd rather do one than say a clutch on a Terrano these days.Bypass hose on a Mini was always an apprentice job.When I used to complain my foreman would say ''Impossibilities just take a little longer'' or ''There is no such word as can't''.Good training in the day - these days mechanics just collapse when something too hard comes their way.

[240]

Yeah,a clutch on an 1800 is a pretty rough start....but they weren't that hard,just a lot of work,but I'd rather do one than say a clutch on a Terrano these days.Bypass hose on a Mini was always an apprentice job.When I used to complain my foreman would say ''Impossibilities just take a little longer'' or ''There is no such word as can't''.Good training in the day - these days mechanics just collapse when something too hard comes their way.

Well said mate!

[Indiana_Jones]

Ah British Leyland!!
I started my apprenticeship in '79 at NZMC and one of the first jobs i got was to help with doing a clutch on an old 1800.At the end of the day i thought fuck this! if this is what a being a mechanic is going to be like you can stick it up your arse!:gob:Luckily the mechanic who was doing the job told me that they often give a truly shit job to the new boy to harden him up,so it would not allways be this bad.

Sweet as, wanna do the clutch on my 1800 for a 12 pack? lol

-Indy

[Motu]

Both my 1800's had recon engines and new clutches - you don't want to get ripped off when buying a $300 car eh?

Just thinking about my now 40 years as a mechanic and what we did then...and what we do now.It may have been dirty hard work,but shit we did a lot of work.We never replaced an engine or gearbox,they were removed,stripped and rebuilt.Never fitted new water pumps either - they were stripped and bearings and impeller replaced.These days we replace an engine for a blown head gasket,and don't touch anything that may require skill....

[merv]

Hey if you guys are getting excited about British Leyland and BMC before that check out my Trade Me auctions I've put a few original sales brochures up. The Princess one is here http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=276212813 and if you search against my user name bikemerv on Trade Me you will see Morris, Triumph Riley and the like too. I'm busy trying to find enthusiasts to connect to our old stuff that I cleared out from the family home when my eldest Bro' died and I've hardly touched the surface for treasures. Sold a few bike brochures but went back to loading cars up this week.

[merv]

Lol the Princess brochure already has a buyer - sweet :yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

One of the guys on the Wolseley forum owns a Wolseley 2200, which was just the badged version of the Princess before they named it so.

Last car to ever have the Wolseley name on it


<img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2315/1906881158_0078849ca5.jpg">

-Indy

[YellowDog]

IMO - The Princess has to be one of the worst cars ever produced.

Saw a Triumph Dolomite Sprint yesterday - From what I remember tey were a damn good drive.

http://www.performance-car-guide.co.uk/images/L-Triumph-Dolomite-Sprint.jpg

[Indiana_Jones]

The Princess isn't my cup of tea, very interesting car to look at though.

The Dolomite looks cool from what I've seen, but if I could own any Triumph I guess it'd be the Spitfire or Herald.

-Indy

[YellowDog]

My Dad had a Hillman SuperMinx and
http://www.willys-mb.co.uk/images/vintage-cars/hillman-super-minx-l.jpg
one of my girlfirnd had a Hillman Imp which I never ever saw running!
http://www.anythingaboutcars.com/images/1968_Hillman_Imp.jpg

[Indiana_Jones]

My old man owned one of these:


<img src="http://pguasp.free.fr/images/Triumph1300TC.jpg">

-Indy

[Motu]

That's the Triumph 1300? Not the Toldeo.The 1300 was front wheel drive,and a pretty strange arrangement too.I can't remember the detail of the drive system(without Google)...but remember they were a very easy clutch to do.I also remember one that had the whole front subframe drop out,rusted to bits.I had to fabricate new mounts and weld them into the body.Can't do that sort of stuff now....they don't trust people like me with a welding torch anymore.

[Indiana_Jones]

That's the Triumph 1300?

Correct.

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Another lovely pub trip in Wendy, good fun

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Saw this beastie going into the city the other day


<img src="http://www.webmonster.co.nz/MOC/gallery/1100_1300/1300.jpg">

-Indy

[Mooch]

I've got an engine out of a GT 1300 one of those. Will end up in an old Mini 7 race car from the 1970s (1963 Mk1) . Techincally not British Leyland ..... More Morris or Austin

[Indiana_Jones]

I've got an engine out of a GT 1300 one of those. Will end up in an old Mini 7 race car from the 1970s (1963 Mk1) . Techincally not British Leyland ..... More Morris or Austin

Pics good sir, pics!

-Indy

[Mooch]

Work In progress , 1963 Mk1 in foregound , 1964 Mk1 in background

[Indiana_Jones]

Nice, very nice :D

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://www.wolseleycarclubnz.co.nz/images/1970%2016-60.jpg">

Wolseley 16-60

-Indy

[Motu]

Leyland were trucks,good trucks of the day.This is a Leyland Buffalo,the biggest they made at the time,and very few were brought to NZ,a couple at most.I think I might know this one - when I was a boy my father worked for Dales Freightways,and they had a Buffalo tractor unit,used for pulling the biggest loads of the time.It was a favorite of my father's and he did most of the work on it - I remember one time going down to the workshop when he had the gearbox out,and he was slipping it through the gears with a screwdriver showing me how it all worked.A sad state to see the mighty Buffalo in...

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af212/bmwr65/Decorated%20images/McRobbieLeylandBuffaloderelictNZPic.jpg

[Indiana_Jones]

A sad state to see the mighty Buffalo in...

What a beast!

And she's still good, just a new lick of paint and drive around the block and she'll sweet!

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=207079&d=1273297416">

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

<img src="http://www.national-microcar-rally.co.uk/Reliant%20Robin%202.JPG">

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Do you approve of this we beastly hussy my dear chap? :love:

[Ixion]

Where are the strappy loopy things on the B pillars , for the chick to put her ankles in ?

[Motu]

The Rover 2000 really needed that V8,they were a real slug.The V8 was much better - they could do 100mph on the Waipuna Rd bridge - going down anyway.

[Indiana_Jones]

Do you approve of this we beastly hussy my dear chap? :love:

Lookin' good mate ;)

-Indy

[scumdog]

The Rover 2000 really needed that V8,they were a real slug.The V8 was much better - they could do 100mph on the Waipuna Rd bridge - going down anyway.

I think the 'S' could do 120mph.

[Motu]

Yeah,so could the BSA Lightning - but you needed a long downhill road with a tail wind.

[kave]

My first car was one of these
http://www.mgcars.org.uk/pics/deano75midget.jpg

The MG Midget Mk IV, the model with the rubber bumper and the triumph spitfire 1493cc engine. It was incredibly fun to drive and could easily do the ton. I remember letting my little sister borrow it, she claimed she didn't realise that the speedo was in MPH and was wondering why everone else on the motorway was going so slowly.

[ducatilover]

Where are the strappy loopy things on the B pillars , for the chick to put her ankles in ?
In the boot where real men put them mate.


The Rover 2000 really needed that V8,they were a real slug.The V8 was much better - they could do 100mph on the Waipuna Rd bridge - going down anyway. Its a 3500, none of this 2000 or 2200 rubbish.


Lookin' good mate ;)

-Indy I went to pick it up on Sunday, waited around in Pahiatua, owner txt me and said he couldn't make it, but would be there on Monday. So I got ridiculously drunk and fantasised about burbling along in a P6, a dream of sorts I have always had, woke up hung over as fuck and, well, he couldn't make it. So I doubt that's happening =( I'm going for the boring kind of beige now. Theoretically I'm picking up a 93 LS400 tomorrow night. I'm bloody gutted bout the Rover though, such a sexy old girl. But the Lexus is devine in a sense, quite like getting a blowie from a reincarnated Marylin Monroe in a spa pool, floating in a warm cloud with Pink Floyd playing for me. Quite nice.

[ducatilover]

Grouse Midget mate!!!

[Indiana_Jones]

The MG Midget Mk IV, the model with the rubber bumper and the triumph spitfire 1493cc engine. It was incredibly fun to drive and could easily do the ton. I remember letting my little sister borrow it, she claimed she didn't realise that the speedo was in MPH and was wondering why everone else on the motorway was going so slowly.

Great looking car :)

One car I'd love is a Triumph Spitfire :D


I went to pick it up on Sunday, waited around in Pahiatua, owner txt me and said he couldn't make it, but would be there on Monday. So I got ridiculously drunk and fantasised about burbling along in a P6, a dream of sorts I have always had, woke up hung over as fuck and, well, he couldn't make it. So I doubt that's happening =( I'm going for the boring kind of beige now. Theoretically I'm picking up a 93 LS400 tomorrow night. I'm bloody gutted bout the Rover though, such a sexy old girl. But the Lexus is devine in a sense, quite like getting a blowie from a reincarnated Marylin Monroe in a spa pool, floating in a warm cloud with Pink Floyd playing for me. Quite nice.

Bugger....

-Indy

[geoffm]

I learnt to drive in a Rover 3500 P6 - not really the ideal car for a learner. The other learner car was the old man's P76 leyland V8...
my old man had a P5, and Mum had the P6. had it for years until so toerags in Tuakau stole it and wrote it off. We got it fixed but it was never the same and was sold to a Rover collector. I ran into him waiting at the Autobahn a few years back and he got the car going properly and it was on the road again.
First car I had was a Citroen GS then a BX16. Cool cars, but the boring toyotas that replaced it were much cheaper to run.

[ducatilover]

I did manage to get the P6 today!!!!!!!! Lovely old girl, the four barrel holley has a wee problem in the idle circuit. I suspect it's the idle air mix being blocked. Runs very smooth and quiet [just won't idle due to it over fueling] and rides beautifully, better than the BMW I swapped for her. No oil leaks noticed yet. Needs a few new seals around here and there and a general service and it will be a stunner....
After I do the rust in the doors =D

[Indiana_Jones]

I did manage to get the P6 today!!!!!!!! Lovely old girl, the four barrel holley has a wee problem in the idle circuit. I suspect it's the idle air mix being blocked. Runs very smooth and quiet [just won't idle due to it over fueling] and rides beautifully, better than the BMW I swapped for her. No oil leaks noticed yet. Needs a few new seals around here and there and a general service and it will be a stunner....
After I do the rust in the doors =D

Wicked, more pics when you can :D

-Indy

[scumdog]

I did manage to get the P6 today!!!!!!!! Lovely old girl, the four barrel holley has a wee problem in the idle circuit. I suspect it's the idle air mix being blocked. Runs very smooth and quiet [just won't idle due to it over fueling] and rides beautifully, better than the BMW I swapped for her. No oil leaks noticed yet. Needs a few new seals around here and there and a general service and it will be a stunner....
After I do the rust in the doors =D

Who fitted the Holley?

At least it's easier to tune than th etwin SU's they came with.

[avgas]

This thread needs more GAZ!
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Just like the motherland!

[ducatilover]

Wicked, more pics when you can :D

-Indy
Will upload after the next sunny day, and a mega wash.


Who fitted the Holley?

At least it's easier to tune than th etwin SU's they came with.

I'm not sure but it's sitting on a modified manifold by the looks of things, not aftermarket. Very easy to tune, I will be digging into her and her much needed tune tomorrow after work. Should be fun! First thing is to strip and clean the carb, reset Ign timing and go from there.

[Motu]

At least it's easier to tune than th etwin SU's they came with.

They came with CD Strombergs - SU's would be much better.

[ducatilover]

I thought they had SU aswell?

HIF6 and HS6 SU carbs.

[ducatilover]

:love::love::love: Nom nom nom!!!!!!

[Indiana_Jones]

Nice pics mate.

What one weird as looking front end lol

Have fun! :D

-Indy

[jim.cox]

My first car was one of these

This was my first cage..

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[ducatilover]

Nice pics mate.

What one weird as looking front end lol

Have fun! :D

-Indy

Oh you know it's a pretty beast haha cheers dude!
It's technically not a BL design, but, BL took over Rover a while after the P6B was in production. Hopefully that had no effect on this baby as it's NZ assembled.

[Indiana_Jones]

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-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

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Gotta be one the best from BMC

-Indy

[Motu]

Bringing understeer to new levels.But yeah,the ride was fantastic,and body roll was what fords and Vauxhalls did.

Hey,did I see someone parallel park? Now that's something you don't see much of these days.

[Edbear]

Ahhh, memories. One car I really enjoyed owning was our Mk1 1100! It was in beautiful nick and never let us down.

[Virago]

Ah, a blast down memory lane for me too - although mine was a 1300.

The hydrolastic suspension was a bit of a hoot, the arse end rearing up when doing a hill-start. Was quite a sight too when one side sprung a leak, gamely chugging along lurched over to one side.

Alas I was young and silly, and rolled mine, writing it off.

[Dadpole]

Nice to see another P6 around. I am trying to unload two of them at present. A P6B and an S.

[ducatilover]

Nice to see another P6 around. I am trying to unload two of them at present. A P6B and an S.

Pics? I love my P6 :love:216834

[avgas]

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[tamarillo]

The P76 and Princess were Aussie Leyland, the Brits hated them, .


RUBBISH. Princess was pommy car. P76 suffered from many things inc bad timing, poor styling, prejudice, BUT ALSO underdevelopment. Basically is was crap at any time or place.

With the princess you may be thinking of the variuos 6 cylinder versions of pommy front drivers the aussies did - tasman was one if I recall correctly. They did a 6 Marina- talk about understeer.

[Indiana_Jones]

Pics? I love my P6 :love:

Looking Good :)

I'm loving the Landcrab :D

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-Indy

[ducatilover]

Looking Good :)

I'm loving the Landcrab :D

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-Indy

Booyah go the Crab!!!!! Hows she treating you?

[JMemonic]

RUBBISH. Princess was pommy car. P76 suffered from many things inc bad timing, poor styling, prejudice, BUT ALSO underdevelopment. Basically is was crap at any time or place.

With the princess you may be thinking of the variuos 6 cylinder versions of pommy front drivers the aussies did - tasman was one if I recall correctly. They did a 6 Marina- talk about understeer.

Oh someone who obviously owned P76's and knows all about them, the timing was solved really simply by setting the dynamic a 5deg BTDC at 800rpm, the styling as all is a matter of choice, if the you really wanted to pick a fault it was its ability to rust in places, however that was common with all cars using the painting system on those years. Underdevelopment could be a contentious statement given that the engine was a modification on the Rover alloy V8, which of course was a modification on the Buick, where the real problem lay was in the 1970's we had a global fuel crisis and in an effort to lower the fuel usage the valve sizes were reduced along with the delivery system, one easy fix was to alter the carb to a holly 350CFM unit as the standard Stromburg was undersized, oddly this had the result of improving the power output and lowering the fuel consumption, as a V8 engine of its time it was little different in development to anything produced but GM, Ford or Chrysler.

The demise of Leyland Australia was due to several factors at the time, one of which was as you rightly assert prejudice of the Australian public towards at the time the big 3 manufactures, but also the fact some wally in the UK took a look at the population figures for Australia and the UK and decided a mini was all that was needed.

There were plenty of things about the P76 were far more advanced as standard fittings than were standard for the other marques.

[Dadpole]

Pics are on tardme.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=312546949

[ducatilover]

Pics are on tardme.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=312546949

Neat!!! Shame it's not a bit tidier, I wouldn't have minded it.

[ducatilover]

Actually Dadpole, would either car have red leather? I suppose it would be somewhat rude to swap a few parts around.... :innocent:

[Dadpole]

No red leather sadly. It is a shame to let them go, as the white one is a goodie. The way things are going. it will never get the time to be put back on the road so it is best to quit them.

[ducatilover]

No red leather sadly. It is a shame to let them go, as the white one is a goodie. The way things are going. it will never get the time to be put back on the road so it is best to quit them.

'Tis very sad, I'd love to save them. But I don't have the available funds :shutup:

[Indiana_Jones]

Booyah go the Crab!!!!! Hows she treating you?

She's going all good, though I have had feelers out for something a bit more 'sporty' like an MGB or TR7

-Indy

[Dadpole]

No... Indy. Not a MGB. I had one for around 18 months. This was 25 years ago when it was a (relatively) new, low milage thing. It drove me to the brink of insanity with constant problems related to bad design and crap manufacture. One of the happiest days of my life was when I unloaded it on some bright-eyed sucker.

Another reason not to buy one:

Drop in at the next meeting of the MGB Owners club. Have a good look at the people there and ask yourself "Do I want to be like that one day?"

[Indiana_Jones]

Drop in at the next meeting of the MGB Owners club. Have a good look at the people there and ask yourself "Do I want to be like that one day?"

Funny I do here this a lot from classic car owners lol.

But I am a member of the Wolseley club.... lol

-Indy

[ducatilover]

No red leather sadly. It is a shame to let them go, as the white one is a goodie. The way things are going. it will never get the time to be put back on the road so it is best to quit them.

Can you give me some more details on the white one please? Wouldn't mind some more pictures too if possible. I'd like to grab the "s" but I must be sensible. :sunny:
Where exactly are you? I'm just north of Eketahuna.

[ducatilover]

Funny I do here this a lot from classic car owners lol.

But I am a member of the Wolseley club.... lol

-Indy

Fuck everyone, get an MGBGT I've always wanted one, such a gorgeous car! I'd swap the p6 and boat for one any day of the week. :love::love::love::love:

[jim.cox]

get an MGBGT I've always wanted one, such a gorgeous car!

What ? You WANT a Morris Oxford in a fancy suit ?

Looks good - but perfroms badly

The only good one of them is the MGBGT V8 version - or maybe the MG RV8 from the early 90's

IMHO There are many better choices - like a TVR Chimera for example

[ducatilover]

What ? You WANT a Morris Oxford in a fancy suit ?

Looks good - but perfroms badly

The only good one of them is the MGBGT V8 version - or maybe the MG RV8 from the early 90's

IMHO There are many better choices - like a TVR Chimera for example

It'll do the speed limit....quicker than my Morrie was, plus, I have a 10.5:1 V8 I could put in an mgb :Punk:

[avgas]

Fuck yeah now we are talking real cars.
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Gimmie a Sagaris!

[Dadpole]

ducatilover.
We are on the Pahiatua Track at makomako. After you turn onto the Palmy road from the Mangamarie road, we are the old brick school on the right. Drop in if you are up this way and get a cup of coffee at least.

[jonbuoy]

What ? You WANT a Morris Oxford in a fancy suit ?

Looks good - but perfroms badly

The only good one of them is the MGBGT V8 version - or maybe the MG RV8 from the early 90's

IMHO There are many better choices - like a TVR Chimera for example

I´m building a BGT with a supercharger from Moss, not cheap but a big increase in power still not going to be "quick" but enough to keep up with modern traffic.

[ducatilover]

ducatilover.
We are on the Pahiatua Track at makomako. After you turn onto the Palmy road from the Mangamarie road, we are the old brick school on the right. Drop in if you are up this way and get a cup of coffee at least.

Will do mate, cheers

[Dadpole]

Both Rovers sold on Tardme. They should be gone in a week or so and I will be Roverless. :crybaby:

[ducatilover]

Both Rovers sold on Tardme. They should be gone in a week or so and I will be Roverless. :crybaby:

Get much for them?

[Dadpole]

500 & 600. One bid on each. The white one is heading to orkland tomorrow. Be a shame to see them go as they are great cars.

[Indiana_Jones]

500 & 600. One bid on each. The white one is heading to orkland tomorrow. Be a shame to see them go as they are great cars.

I guess it's good they're off to a new loving owner (one hopes!)

-Indy

[Dadpole]

I have promised the family that we will try to get another one sometime. One that does not require work. Experience has shown me that I will never get time to do some projects and I might as well buy the finished item.

[Indiana_Jones]

Sweet as :)

Be sure to let us know how you get on.

-Indy

[ducatilover]

I have promised the family that we will try to get another one sometime. One that does not require work. Experience has shown me that I will never get time to do some projects and I might as well buy the finished item.

I have a nice one :innocent: won't be selling Reginald for some time I expect though [Yes, I named a Rover]

[Indiana_Jones]

http://envy.name/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jaguar-xk8-1.jpg

-Indy

[ducatilover]

I do believe that is an uber rare XKR evo? :love: :love: Gorgeous car. Would sell my sould and wife for it.

[Indiana_Jones]

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-Indy

[ducatilover]

Nom, nom and nom my dear chap

[Indiana_Jones]

Nom, nom and nom my dear chap

more like brum, brum and bruuuuuuuuum lol

But sadly it also means the Wolseley will have to go....:(

-Indy

[ducatilover]

more like brum, brum and bruuuuuuuuum lol

But sadly it also means the Wolseley will have to go....:(

-Indy

I'm going to be curt here, yes, do it. Done :wings: :Punk: :love:

[Indiana_Jones]

I'm going to be curt here, yes, do it. Done :wings: :Punk: :love:

Oh don't worry, I have the MG, I just can't keep both that's all lol

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Oh don't worry, I have the MG, I just can't keep both that's all lol

-Indy

More piccies and details please! Mega fucking jealous mate.
It's a shame the beastly Wolseley will have to depart your company, but, for an MGB, with chrome bumpers, who can complain?

[Indiana_Jones]

Would be nice to keep both, but the MG is just a bit more enjoyable, though less practical (like that matters lol)

Also remember the Wolseley has the exact same engine in her as the MG, it's just east-west rather then north-south

Anyways, it's 1974 with overdrive, pretty much there's all to say I guess lol

and a few more piccies

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-Indy

[ducatilover]

Would be nice to keep both, but the MG is just a bit more enjoyable, though less practical (like that matters lol)

Also remember the Wolseley has the exact same engine in her as the MG, it's just east-west rather then north-south

Anyways, it's 1974 with overdrive, pretty much there's all to say I guess lol

and a few more piccies

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-Indy
There is too much win. I think I should take care of the mgb :love::love::love::love:

[jonbuoy]

Nice wheels Indy and good choice - servo assist brakes with chrome bumper. Now you just need to slap one of these in:

http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/supercharging-your-mgb/

Or a V8, I´m going supercharger route as I need the car in LHD and doing a V8 conversion for LHD is tricky with steering linkages etc.

A good website for general info is:

http://www.mgexperience.net/

[Indiana_Jones]

Nice wheels Indy and good choice - servo assist brakes with chrome bumper. Now you just need to slap one of these in:

http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/supercharging-your-mgb/

Or a V8, I´m going supercharger route as I need the car in LHD and doing a V8 conversion for LHD is tricky with steering linkages etc.

A good website for general info is:

http://www.mgexperience.net/

The rubber bumper is just a bit too much to look at sometimes, but they're not as bad as some people think :)

I doubt I'll be super charging it anytime soon lol

cheers for the links

And DL, you should your own MGB (better sell that Rover!)

-Indy

[ducatilover]

And DL, you should your own MGB (better sell that Rover!)

-Indy

If only dude...Need something relatively sensible and I don't think the budget will stretch to a BGT, but, it's one of my favorite cars EVER so I shall own one, one day. :love:

Foo foo, just measured my boat, it's 12ft instead of 14ft. I got duped lol

[Indiana_Jones]

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-Indy

[ducatilover]

Your plate needs to be numbered Indy, you rebel....

[pzkpfw]

Only one of them works at a time. The cops know where to find the one whose turn it is.

[avgas]

http://envy.name/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jaguar-xk8-1.jpg

-Indy
Thank god the indians fixed that pile of shit - looked like some kind of horrible bloated fish you would never want to eat.
The indians added some curry to it. Made it tasty
http://uncrate.com/p/2009/01/jaguar-xfr.jpg

[ducatilover]

Bloody hell those XF-R are tasty!!!!!!!!!
But, you're all wrong, THIS, is the best of the modern day Jags, no late model Jag comes near this in terms of sex appeal. :love::love:
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http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/concept/98jaguar_xk180_09.jpg

[jonbuoy]

Looking good Indy mines got a way to go before getting on the road hopefully before July.

[EJK]

<img src="http://www.carshowp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/2011-Bentley-Mulsanne-Seats-View.jpg" />


<img width="500" src="http://www.bentley-carz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/2011-bentley-mulsanne-wiki.jpg" />


Yes please.

[Indiana_Jones]

Looking good Indy mines got a way to go before getting on the road hopefully before July.

Looking good mate :)

Is she a 70-72? going by the grill

Funny, all three of my cars have been 1800 B series.

1970 Wosleley 18/85, 1974 MGB GT, 1970 Wolseley 18/85 (Auto)

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Looking good mate :)

Is she a 70-72? going by the grill

Funny, all three of my cars have been 1800 B series.

1970 Wosleley 18/85, 1974 MGB GT, 1970 Wolseley 18/85 (Auto)

-Indy
'Tis the best way to go with the 4 cylinder ones isn't it?
One day I too shall have a BGT with pre '73 bumpers....I'd give both bikes for one in a heartbeat.
I'd give my nuts for a genuine V8 too. :love:

[Indiana_Jones]

'Tis the best way to go with the 4 cylinder ones isn't it?
One day I too shall have a BGT with pre '73 bumpers....I'd give both bikes for one in a heartbeat.
I'd give my nuts for a genuine V8 too. :love:

Rubber bumpers were from, '74 1/2 onwards.

Best best is to go for an 70-74. You get the old school looks, but with the more modern refinements we like that the early B's lack. Get an overdrive one if you can help it, not the be all and end all, but a nice '5th gear', keeps the revs down and great for highway cruising.

-Indy

[Edbear]

<img src="http://www.carshowp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/2011-Bentley-Mulsanne-Seats-View.jpg" />


<img width="500" src="http://www.bentley-carz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/2011-bentley-mulsanne-wiki.jpg" />


Yes please.

Still making the best and fastest Lorries in the world! :yes:


'Tis the best way to go with the 4 cylinder ones isn't it?
One day I too shall have a BGT with pre '73 bumpers....I'd give both bikes for one in a heartbeat.
I'd give my nuts for a genuine V8 too. :love:

A bit extreme, aren't we...? :blink:

[Indiana_Jones]

A bit extreme, aren't we...? :blink:

Do you know what I see?

I SEE PRIDE!

I SEE PASSION!

I SEE A BAD ASS MOTHER WHO WOULD GIVE HIS NUTS FOR A V8!

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Rubber bumpers were from, '74 1/2 onwards.

Best best is to go for an 70-74. You get the old school looks, but with the more modern refinements we like that the early B's lack. Get an overdrive one if you can help it, not the be all and end all, but a nice '5th gear', keeps the revs down and great for highway cruising.

-Indy
74? My mistake :facepalm: Okay a pre '74.5 one will do me.
Yeah, O/D would be a nice thing to have.


Still making the best and fastest Lorries in the world! :yes:



A bit extreme, aren't we...? :blink:

Nope, Lance Armstrong did nearly as well just to win a cycle race.


Do you know what I see?

I SEE PRIDE!

I SEE PASSION!

I SEE A BAD ASS MOTHER WHO WOULD GIVE HIS NUTS FOR A V8!

-Indy


:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[Edbear]

74? My mistake :facepalm: Okay a pre '74.5 one will do me.
Yeah, O/D would be a nice thing to have.

Nope, Lance Armstrong did nearly as well just to win a cycle race.

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Yeah, but he cancer in them, I'd give mine away if that was the case. Oh, hang on, mine aren't any use these days anyway and one can always get implants... Wonder how much one could get for them...:facepalm:

[ducatilover]

Yeah, but he cancer in them, I'd give mine away if that was the case. Oh, hang on, mine aren't any use these days anyway and one can always get implants... Wonder how much one could get for them...:facepalm:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_sell_a_testicle
You can't buy 'em.

My google search history is going to look a bit funny...:shit:

[cave weta]

Brit cars.... Ive never had a standard one - and sadly no photos left of any of these, but imagine if you will.......

A Triumph Vitesse with a 13b rotary in it
A Sunbeam Stilletto with a 13b rotary in it
A 170hp escort big valve twincam with a holbay drysump and Rocket C/R box
An Austin A40 Devon ute with a P76 V8 and auto
A triumph 2.5 PI with a rover vitesse V8

Jeez ive built some mad shit

[ducatilover]

Brit cars.... Ive never had a standard one - and sadly no photos left of any of these, but imagine if you will.......

A Triumph Vitesse with a 13b rotary in it
A Sunbeam Stilletto with a 13b rotary in it
A 170hp escort big valve twincam with a holbay drysump and Rocket C/R box
An Austin A40 Devon ute with a P76 V8 and auto
A triumph 2.5 PI with a rover vitesse V8

Jeez ive built some mad shit
The last two tickle my fancy, being a V8 chap at heart, but they all work for me.....

[Edbear]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_sell_a_testicle
You can't buy 'em.

My google search history is going to look a bit funny...:shit:

I do have to admit I'm rather attached to mine...

[ducatilover]

I do have to admit I'm rather attached to mine...
A woman stole mine once, I got them back though, she said the usual, "the bikes or me" :shit: I said "sorry love"
:rockon:

Anyway back on topic, I need another brit car, there's a two door Toledo wanting some work down this way....:innocent: Hmmmm

[EJK]

Check this out!

http://www.volocars.com/hollywood-auction.htm

At the bottom they have a car from Indiana Jones (movie set scene) on auction.

[schrodingers cat]

A BL technician shows his WHOLE toolbox

http://atomicathletic.com/store/images/products/Sledge%20Hammer%20234.jpg

[Motu]

Yes,I have a whole draw in my wide roll cab just for hammers - the other mechanics at work only have the one hammer each.Hammer skills is another lost art.

[nadroj]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/134776-Rare-car?p=1129989689#post1129989689 & post #1.

[Indiana_Jones]

Plenty of cars out on tardme DucatiL,

Keep yours eyes open for a Wolseley 1300 or Hornet (Wolseley Mini, like the Riley Elf) as I'm keen for one. Help me get a goodie and I'll make you a deal on the landcrab :D

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-Indy

[avgas]

...Yes please...
I like playing with you
Its ON
<img src="http://www.likecool.com/Car/SportsCars/Lamborghini%20Estoque%20Concept/Lamborghini-Estoque-Concept.jpg" />

[avgas]

Bloody hell those XF-R are tasty!!!!!!!!!
But, you're all wrong, THIS, is the best of the modern day Jags, no late model Jag comes near this in terms of sex appeal. :love::love:
Pffffft thats a girls Rover....
This is a Real JAAAAAAG
http://www.gizmodir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Jaguar-CX75-1-550x1108.jpg

[EJK]

Pffffft thats a girls Rover....
This is a Real JAAAAAAG


That shit is sexuality by definition.

[EJK]

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9CI_d9uJeEc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Watch this. It's divided into four parts. Watch them all.

[EJK]

I like playing with you
Its ON


<img width="500" src="http://www.best-services.fr/photos/bentley/location-bentley-flying-spur-8.jpg" /><img width="500" src="http://www.carbb.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Bentley-Continental-Flying-Spur.jpg" />


These days I'm into Bentleys. They have something je ne sais quoi about it.

Not a big fan of Continental GT but I love Mulsanne and Continental Flying Spur (Maybe I'm getting old).

Since you mentioned Lamborghini, CHECK THIS SHIT OUT BABY!!!!


<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ni3gE0j29Zs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[jim.cox]

This is a Real JAAAAAAG...


No Avgas - thats an "Indian Leyland"

This is a <B>REAL</B> jag

238395

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Jaguar/xk150/auction-371885547.htm

[EJK]

No Avgas - thats an "Indian Leyland"

This is a <B>REAL</B> jag

238395

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Jaguar/xk150/auction-371885547.htm

That is rare as! Here is a Jaguar I've always liked:

<img src="http://www.autoplenum.de/Bilder/P/p0002078/JAGUAR/JAGUAR-XJS-V12-Automatik--1993-1995-.jpg" />

I was always quite fond of XJS... Maybe cause they are the cheapest V12s you can buy on trademe?

[ducatilover]

Plenty of cars out on tardme DucatiL,

Keep yours eyes open for a Wolseley 1300 or Hornet (Wolseley Mini, like the Riley Elf) as I'm keen for one. Help me get a goodie and I'll make you a deal on the landcrab :D



-Indy
I'll keep an eye out, I'd love the LandCrab, but, can't really justify it currently :angry: I'm selling the CB400 though, but, the profits from that will be going into the ZZR, rubber and new riding gears.

[avgas]

No Avgas - thats an "Indian Leyland"

This is a <B>REAL</B> jag

238395

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Jaguar/xk150/auction-371885547.htm
Meh XK150 was a step down from the XK120 in my eyes.

[Edbear]

I lusted after this in my youth...

[ducatilover]

I want an Armstrong Sillybilly :innocent:

[Indiana_Jones]

mmmmmm British Cars.

-Indy

[ducatilover]

mmmmmm British Cars.

-Indy
Speaking of which, I saw an Aston Martin Rapide in Wellington on Monday.
Easily the best looking modern car in the flesh, can't think of anything that compares

[Virago]

Speaking of which, I saw an Aston Martin Rapide in Wellington on Monday.
Easily the best looking modern car in the flesh, can't think of anything that compares

Oh yes indeed - it's gorgeous. For what is basically a four-door saloon, it's incredible.

Overall though, I reckon the DB9 is the best looking of the bunch.

[ducatilover]

Oh yes indeed - it's gorgeous. For what is basically a four-door saloon, it's incredible.

Overall though, I reckon the DB9 is the best looking of the bunch.
Having seem several DB9 in the flesh and a new V8 Vantage, I really think that the Rapide is the best proportioned. Not a classical two door coupe, but, whilst I was barred up looking at it, I tried to see ways of improving the design and making it better looking, not one came to my head. Then we get to the noise...oh the Aston 12cyl is just phucking incredible!

[Indiana_Jones]

Damn it, found a nice looking Wolseley 1300, MK II. But it's Auto :(

-Indy

[unstuck]

Damn it, found a nice looking Wolseley 1300, MK II. But it's Auto :(

-Indy

There is a fella in pukerau(10mins out of gore) who has a lot of old wolesley land crabs and riley elfs and stuff sitting in a paddock and round some sheds.:yes:

[avgas]

I want an Armstrong Sillybilly :innocent:
Does it give you WOOD ;)

[Indiana_Jones]

There is a fella in pukerau(10mins out of gore) who has a lot of old wolesley land crabs and riley elfs and stuff sitting in a paddock and round some sheds.:yes:

Bit far for me lol. Landcrab ftw!

-Indy