British Leyland

[awa355]

I gotta ask why you think landrovers are hard to work on. IMHO they are easy to work on, not that I have any experience with them......much.....

They may well be easy to work on around the engine. I remember a mechanic saying years ago that it was 6 hours to remove a gearbox from a landrover and about an hour to get the gearbox out of a Landcruiser. I may have that wrong. Others here would know.

[Motu]

A bit padded on both those times, gotta make it look good. A Landrover gearbox comes out the top - so the floor comes up first, lots of 1/4'' bolts rusted up and all the drama that entails....so if they come off easy you are looking like the best mechanic there ever was....if they are tough it's going to take a long time to do that simple job. In the days before floor cranes it was off with the roof and a chain block. With a floor crane you take a door off (easy, they are made to lift off) and bring it out the side. Landrovers and early Cruisers had a cardon shaft handbrake, more extra work, modern 4X4's don't have such silly things.

A Landrover on the floor with a crane, or a Landcruiser on a hoist with a trans jack - a young guy who has never worked on a Landrover would come up with those figures easy.

[Flip]

I suppose if you had to pay some one to unscrew the floor and seat to get access to the gear box it might be considered a pain. To me the access granted by being able lift out the floor is a brillant design feature. But I don't have to pay for my time.

Every thing on my landy gets put back together with coper coat. It means I can get it apart even if it is under the vehicle on the exhaust system.

I have just put a 2 1/2" exhaust system with a 3 chamber and a cody and it sounds very sexy at the moment.

[awa355]

For anyone who wants to read up on the Austin Gypsy, This is easy reading

http://www.austinmemories.com/page65/page65.html

[husaberg]

For anyone who wants to read up on the Austin Gypsy, This is easy reading

http://www.austinmemories.com/page65/page65.html

For those that don't know the same RR series motor that was in the gypsy and champ the basis for the vanwall F1 engine it was basically 4 Manx Norton heads on the rr designed bottom end much modded as cast in alloy......
http://jbbassibey.free.fr/vanwall%20gp%20grande%20bretagne%201955.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanwall

[Flip]

When I moved north recently, Spanx and I drove two of my cars up. We had a great trip, had a pile of fun. We spent all day talking on the Ham radio as we drove. We stayed in Chch and Wtn and we met Princessbandit on the ferry which was cool. Spanx put this wee video together.

The cars are very similar expect the Lotus has 3x the power to weight and is 50 years newer, see how fast he gets past the trucks at 1,20. Young men like the lotus young women like the MG (I drove the MG). We did as much of the trip topless if we could get away with. The only rain we got was leaving Wellington. The old MG performed brillantly.

Just north of napier Spanx was passed at one stage by a hilux on a long straight. It followed right up my ass in the Midget until we got to the devils elbow corners, then he threw himself off the road for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX9JOzBb00o

Oh the MG has a scatter cam, big valves, has been ported, high comp pistons and has a LCB exhaust. It also has modern tyres on minilites, panhar, 5/8 sway bar, spax shocks front n back and urethanes. It goes ok for a 50 year old "stock" english shitter. Was/am thinking about a 8 port head but it is a big change and won't look stock.

[Berries]

Actually this is the one you need...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/morris/auction-794407102.htm
Oh no. The wife saw that a week ago and has not shut up about it, or stopped laughing about it. Will someone please buy the fucking thing so I don't have to go and kick some tyres while in Chch this weekend, spend the next six months cutting out rust and the next six years gathering rust at 75km/h.

Please?

[dangerous]

When I moved north recently, Spanx and I drove two of my cars up. We had a great trip, had a pile of fun. We spent all day talking on the Ham radio as we drove.looks like a good rate of knots, round the 25k corner... pitty you buggers cut some corners, woulda thought cars like that could stay between the center and fog lines easier, whats the road with the overhead viduct? looks mint

ps: woulda been nice to have herd the music of the MG humming

[Flip]

The Lotus has the intake behind the drivers head and plastic cars with a full chassy rattle badly.

Its the Mohaka viaduct on the Napier Gisborne road.

[dangerous]

The Lotus has the intake behind the drivers head and plastic cars with a full chassy rattle badly.

Its the Mohaka viaduct on the Napier Gisborne road.
dont cear bout the Lotus sound, the MG singing is what Id like to here LOL :shifty:

[Flip]

Well it sounds like a BMC cooper A series with a tuned length exhaust with a single 1 1/2" cody.

[dangerous]

Well it sounds like a BMC cooper A series with a tuned length exhaust with a single 1 1/2" cody.

no no flippers... as below, ohh and thats 'coby' not a bourbon aye?


Oh the MG has a scatter cam, big valves, has been ported, high comp pistons and has a LCB exhaust.

so what is a scatter cam? :mellow:

[ducatilover]

no no flippers... as below, ohh and thats 'coby' not a bourbon aye?



so what is a scatter cam? :mellow:

Different lobe centers on the middle 2 cylinders, can make a bit of extra hp over a decent flavour cam right up top. Dunno if I'd use one in a road car, but would like to hear Flip's thoughts :yes:


Napier-Gisborne is a magic bit of road, Gizzy up through the gorge is fairly epic too.

[dangerous]

Different lobe centers on the middle 2 cylinders.HUH... ya what, how and why would you tune tw0 pots diferent to the other two? I mean like they would be fighting the other 2 surley all 4 pots need to be tuned the same???

[Flip]

On an A series midget motor 1 and 4 cylinders have better cooling so you can drive these cylinders harder. A scatter cam drives 1&4 harder than 2&3. It was expensive and it really makes sfa extra power, but when you only have 70 hp std every one helps.

Mine goes fine but is a bit "cammy" for road use, her indoors doesent like driving it, also because the thing also has a HD clutch and is very easy to stall.

Actually the new high lift rockers made more diference than the new cam.

[dangerous]

there ya go, learn something every day...

[scumdog]

On an A series midget motor 1 and 4 cylinders have better cooling so you can drive these cylinders harder. A scatter cam drives 1&4 harder than 2&3. It was expensive and it really makes sfa extra power, but when you only have 70 hp std every one helps.



A bit like small-block Chev V8 - real grunty blown ones need the middle two cylinders on each side to run richer than the rest 'cos of the two middle exhaust ports being side by side, not evenly spaced like just about all Ford and big-block Chev V8s.

[ducatilover]

HUH... ya what, how and why would you tune tw0 pots diferent to the other two? I mean like they would be fighting the other 2 surley all 4 pots need to be tuned the same???


On an A series midget motor 1 and 4 cylinders have better cooling so you can drive these cylinders harder. A scatter cam drives 1&4 harder than 2&3. It was expensive and it really makes sfa extra power, but when you only have 70 hp std every one helps.

Mine goes fine but is a bit "cammy" for road use, her indoors doesent like driving it, also because the thing also has a HD clutch and is very easy to stall.

Actually the new high lift rockers made more diference than the new cam.

^ this.
Another similar thing, not really applicable to an A series, is to have the lobes advanced the further they are from the cam drive to compensate for high rev and load cam flex. Be quite handy if you own a high rev Pinto :yes:

Who did your head work Flip? The mate's RS2000 rally car had the head sent off to Marsh and fuck me, what a difference :eek5: was already flowed by a bunch in Christchurch (aeroworks or something similar sounding?) but the intake side was all choked up and not flowing. 12hp in the midrange it got, same cam, motor etc, just the head work and new valves (same size, but stainless so a wee bit lighter than the standard Chev fuckers that were in there)

[Flip]

I did the port work myself. The cooper heads are not too bad as is. An 8 port how ever is another matter all together.

304758

[ducatilover]

I did the port work myself. The cooper heads are not too bad as is. An 8 port how ever is another matter all together.



:yes: Grouse!
How far north have you gone?

[Flip]

Gisborne, on the beach in the sun.

[ducatilover]

Lucky bastwerd :motu: lots of good roads in the area

[pete376403]

I did the port work myself. The cooper heads are not too bad as is. An 8 port how ever is another matter all together.


BMW K100 or K1100 heads add a bit of sparkle to A series engines.

[husaberg]

BMW K100 or K1100 heads add a bit of sparkle to A series engines.

I also wonder why more people just don't shove in a Nissan a15 (Metric morris)

[scumdog]

BMW K100 or K1100 heads add a bit of sparkle to A series engines.

Pics???:blip::blip:

[ducatilover]

BMW conversion is bloody cool :Punk:
Doesn't look original, but to be honest sitting in a Midget and with the obligatory DCOEs on it... mmm sexy :love:

[pete376403]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRRaKTFzRbE

needed a can of "start y'bastard"

also - http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23068

etc

[Indiana_Jones]

Sploosh

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-800970740.htm

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/full/341588698.jpg

-Indy

[dangerous]

5 farking G for it... and whats so 'R' bout it anyway??? the fact the clock is bigger than the speedo and it has no taco :laugh:

[scumdog]

Damn thes 'A' series motor - no rear seal on them.
So after flogging them for a few miles and parkign in the imperial drive-way they leave a Lake Ellesmere.

Made a hole in my cement supplies fixing that one.<_<

[Indiana_Jones]

5 farking G for it... and whats so 'R' bout it anyway??? the fact the clock is bigger than the speedo and it has no taco :laugh:

The 'R's were the last of production, upspec'd etc is my understanding.

As for the tacho, it's auto and a Princess lol

-Indy

[ducatilover]

What a fucking horrid car. :mellow:

[Indiana_Jones]

http://files.sharenator.com/377510.jpg

-Indy

[ducatilover]

But Indy... Everything about them is wrong. Even the name is as limp as a banana skin
Get a TR8

[Indiana_Jones]

The original name was fine, when they were sold as Austin, Morris & Wolseley ;)

TR8 would be pimp, but the same again really, a lot of people think they're fugly as sin.

-Indy

[YellowDog]

The 'R's were the last of production, upspec'd etc is my understanding.

As for the tacho, it's auto and a Princess lol

-Indy

I remember this car very well (a Marina that's had a grand piano dropped on it).

I had no idea these were ever assembled in EnZee.

$5k's cheap for a vehicle of that age in showroom (museum) condition.

Best advice: Get a large glass cabinet and put it in your living room. Even after the missus has walked out, you'd still be smiling :)

[Indiana_Jones]

I remember this car very well (a Marina that's had a grand piano dropped on it).

I had no idea these were ever assembled in EnZee.

$5k's cheap for a vehicle of that age in showroom (museum) condition.

Best advice: Get a large glass cabinet and put it in your living room. Even after the missus has walked out, you'd still be smiling :)

http://images.rapgenius.com/a0fw7gppl3vf89k4ncfuoj34d.552x464x1.jpg

-Indy

[scumdog]

Standards are slipping, mediocracy will Triumph, things will Stag-nate if somebody doesn't post something soon - something with B.L on it.:blink:

[dangerous]

Standards are slipping, mediocracy will Triumph, things will Stag-nate if somebody doesn't post something soon - something with B.L on it.:blink:
Triumph... stag... what about a TR
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-794095453.htm

[unstuck]

For the love of cars, next saturday night. Tis the Mighty stags turn. Loved the landy one last night.:Punk::Punk:

[Bender]

Lookit the mint Landcrab sitting behind the XR. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-819779964.htm)

For the love of cars Land Rover programme - would that be the one that neglected to mention the Landy was four wheel drive and had an aluminium body?

It has good potential that program, but is just too once-over-lightly for my tastes. I think a full resto deserves just a little more detail.

It's a fail, I'm afraid.

[Motu]

Looks like a Maxi - but it's got Landcrab doors.

[Indiana_Jones]

Thinking about buying a Series 1-3 XJ6 or XJ40.

Talk me out of it, please.

http://metropolitanhotelsofia.com/uploads/Images/Weddings/_MG_8610__Large_.JPG

http://www.limora.com/media/catalog/category/10877_740x231_4.jpg

-Indy

[dangerous]

DO IT... but dont do half a job get a double six

[unstuck]

DO IT... but dont do half a job get a double six

But only If you have small girly feet. :yes:

[unstuck]

Nz classic car put this up today, I like.:niceone:

https://scontent-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10997705_1004942689535146_1971240119652329328_o.jp g

[Indiana_Jones]

You cunts are very helpful lol.

Lovely looking Wolseley :yes:

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Buy one Indy.
XJ40s are supposedly the best but lack in the sexy department in comparison.
So your best bet is a double six

[Indiana_Jones]

lol I ain't going anywhere near the V12.

But going by what I have read and seen, the XJ40 is pretty lush. Of course the looks of the series 1 or 2 is a lot nicer. But I imagine the XJ40 would be a lot more refined and get much better mileage.

-Indy

[YellowDog]

Thinking about buying a Series 1-3 XJ6 or XJ40.

Talk me out of it, please.

-Indy

The XJ40 was the one that looked a bit plain but, unlike most Jags before, didn't actually go wrong at all. A couple of my friends had them as company cars and from new. One of them had the Sports version, which looked a lot smarter with the double head lights and slightly stiffer suspension. From memory they had a 3.6ltr lump in them. Quite a nice ride really, with slightly firmer seats than the usual arm chairs.

Good luck!

[Indiana_Jones]

2.9, 3.2, 3.6 and 4.0 are the engine sizes, I believe.

Apparently one is not to bother with the 2.9 at all and should get the 3.6 or 4.0

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Both 3.6 and 4.0 are lovely units

Plenty goes wrong on them, but not as rusty as the days of old. Build quality is moar betterer too.
A fair few electrical issues, early injection systems were a little stink and most jokers cannot diagnose or fix them (do your reading, they are nice simple systems)
A little rust here and there but nothing abysmal


I was thinking the same thing years ago about getting a Jaaaaaaaaaaaag, but ended up with an E34 BMW instead. Which was a better car in every possible way (mmmmmm manual 535iS) but lacked that Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag magic

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/daimler/auction-853556361.htm

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/367218024.jpg

-Indy

[Moi]

What about the white shagging wagon in the background?? :eek:

[scumdog]

What about the white shagging wagon in the background?? :eek:

Ambo.

The car owner had a heart attack when he saw the repair bill for the Daimler...:pinch:

[Indiana_Jones]

lol so true.

Don't worry, I got a Haynes Book of Lies for the series 1-3.

Kinda something like this:

http://i3.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article6116937.ece/alternates/s615/PM380545.jpg

-Indy

[Moi]

Ambo.

The car owner had a heart attack when he saw the repair bill for the Daimler...:pinch:

Those old ambulances make quite a good little camper...

They were much better to travel in than the old ambulances on the Dodge chassis that St Johns used to use...

http://www.111emergency.co.nz/Ambulance/Northern/HM3609.JPG

Photo from 111emergency.co.nz website.

[unstuck]

Mate had one of those old Dodge St John ambos, was a cool party wagon. Amazing how many punks you could cram in it.:2thumbsup

[Motu]

I'd much rather have the AT4 than a Holden powered Cf Bedford!

[unstuck]

I'd much rather have the AT4 than a Holden powered Cf Bedford!

My last bedford had an ld28 in it, was a little noisy and slow but chugged away all day. Much prefer the nissan Civillian we have now though, much easier to move around in than the cf.:laugh:

[Motu]

I know a couple with LD28's in them - why do they do that, so gutless and slow.

[unstuck]

I know a couple with LD28's in them - why do they do that, so gutless and slow.

Cos they are easy to do I guess. Pretty reliable motors too, heaps better than the rubbish they came out with.

[ducatilover]

I know a couple with LD28's in them - why do they do that, so gutless and slow.

Or LDs in to XD Falcons... dear lord.

[dangerous]

Cos they are easy to do I guess. Pretty reliable motors too, heaps better than the rubbish they came out with.

hey... my cf230 was awesome, great engines was on lpg in all great sound with a short pipe out the side LOL, lasted longer than my jumbo with 186 in it.

309512 309511

mind you every weekend ment working on it, every alternative on the engine the other on the body bogging the latest rust up LOL

[unstuck]

hey... my cf230 was awesome, great engines was on lpg in all great sound with a short pipe out the side LOL, lasted longer than my jumbo with 186 in it.


mind you every weekend ment working on it, every alternative on the engine the other on the body bogging the latest rust up LOL

Rust and lack of room is why I got rid of mine, didn't have to touch the motor apart from oils and filters. Just done the bearings in the civillians gearbox as it only had 2nd gear second coming home home from the west coast on my last trip. 14 hrs from Franz, usually 6.:brick:

[dangerous]

ok... CF owners, how many of you guys still wear the scears on ya shin from opening the doors, that bottom outer farking edge :mad:

[unstuck]

Yeah, they were a curse, if I ever get another it is getting something like this done to it but without the chev motor.


http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm248/vanner065/100_1420.jpg

[fridayflash]

I know a couple with LD28's in them - why do they do that, so gutless and slow.

RD28 is a far better engine, the LD you can hear rattling a mile away, once when i was meeting a neighbor for the first time, we were looking at
his variety of vehicles ...early landcruiser, suzuki gt750 complete with ape hangers etc then he shows me an xjs 6 jag, nice red one with the alloy
wheels and tan vinyl roof, at the very moment he turned the key to start it he said to me ''youll never guess whats in this'' well the first thing out of my
mouth was "ld28" couldnt mistake that cold echo lol...cheap to run i suppose, altho he reckoned it struggled to get up the titiokura on the
napier taupo road.

ive never owned a cf bedford, did have a late 70s transit though, 302 windsor powered, other that that it looked bog stock, one of my first
painting vans.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qg6WdboK1nY

[dangerous]

Yeah, they were a curse, if I ever get another it is getting something like this done to it but without the chev motor.

that is cool... remember in the 80's on the way to the brass at danseys there was one just like that :niceone:

[Indiana_Jones]

http://i.imgur.com/FIQvAmb.jpg

Down with the sickness.

-Indy

[ducatilover]

No idea why, but looking at those reminds me of how much I regret selling my ovlov 850 glt :facepalm: I'd really own another, mega comfy and a sexy motor. Reliable too

[Moi]

Came across this on youtube the other day... London in the early 1970s and lots of English cars...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdP1ElfnxOs

[dangerous]

nothing bmc related but camping last weekend at okains bay and farked if i know how he got it down there... was the coolest bus in nz, MCD denning still powered by the detroit stroker... fark that sound.

this in not the actual bus it was bigger and fully fitted out as a camper 310714

[Indiana_Jones]

Niiiiiice and sweet video too, spotted a few choice cars in there!

-Indy

[unstuck]

Got a few Morris minor head gaskets and valve cover gaskets and other various gaskets for same if anyone on here wants them, forgot I had the bloody things.
Brand new, free to good home otherwise they are getting chucked.:niceone:

[unstuck]

Actually, I think one of them might be for a mini.

[scumdog]

Got a few Morris minor head gaskets and valve cover gaskets and other various gaskets for same if anyone on here wants them, forgot I had the bloody things.
Brand new, free to good home otherwise they are getting chucked.:niceone:

If they fit a 1275 motor I'll take 'em for the Marina:niceone:

[unstuck]

If they fit a 1275 motor I'll take 'em for the Marina:niceone:

I think the mini one may, the morry ones are more of an egg shape hole for the pistons, and the mini one is a circle.

http://www.easy-sites.co.uk/filestore/images/2471/400/1282735728_400.jpgMorry

http://www.minimania.com/images_temp/800600001geg1140.jpg Mini.


You want them, there yours.:niceone:

[scumdog]

I think the mini one may, the morry ones are more of an egg shape hole for the pistons, and the mini one is a circle.

You want them, there yours.:niceone:

I'll do some homework to see if they suit 1275 motors but yeah, I'm keen!

[unstuck]

I'll do some homework to see if they suit 1275 motors but yeah, I'm keen!

Pretty sure the mini ones do, easy enough to measure anyway. The valve cover gaskets are the cork variety too, so are the real deal, non of this rubber shit.:2thumbsup

[unstuck]

Been trying to get some accurate information on the net but there seems to be lots of conflicting opinions. :wacko:

[dangerous]

conflicting motions. :wacko:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIqVQzQe5ns

[Berries]

Came across this on youtube the other day... London in the early 1970s and lots of English cars...
Just watch any episode of the Sweeney.


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lAHsIhyrLcM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[husaberg]

My understanding was BMC lost 5 Pounds for every 1300 they sold trying to match the Ford Escorts price.
hint BMC made millions of them.
While Ford made millions on the Ford Escort.

[Virago]

This is sex on wheels.

A snip at $85K...

http://www.waimakclassiccars.co.nz/.tmp/images/640x480/padded/640x480/000/553b4310d340f-30.JPG

http://www.waimakclassiccars.co.nz/cars/304-Austin-Healey-Mk111-3000.html#.VT3SMpNUrcs

[unstuck]

This is sex on wheels.

A snip at $85K...



Very nice indeed.:2thumbsup

[jim.cox]

Hey Indy

Here's one for you

One little old lady owner, just driven to church on Sundays

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/morris/auction-893458408.htm

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/385776626.jpg

[caseye]

Hey Indy

Here's one for you

One little old lady owner, just driven to church on Sundays

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/morris/auction-893458408.htm

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/385776626.jpg

Hummm, I reckon 1 bag of chips is a bit too little! Very nice example of a not bad motor car, worth every cent i reckon.

[pzkpfw]

Be cooler with split windscreen and low headlights, but still nice to see around:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=887461017

(Morris Minor 1000 1958, $4,500)

[YellowDog]

So I was born in 1962 and have been looking at cars of that year; most of which have been from the USA. However this has come up and I am seeking permission from Mrs Yellow (she has a problem with the 'Dog' bit of the name).

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/357798071.jpg

[Indiana_Jones]

Hey Indy

Here's one for you

One little old lady owner, just driven to church on Sundays

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/morris/auction-893458408.htm



Very nice :niceone:

Or even betterer

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-893799661.htm

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/385946711.jpg

Having a mortgage sucks lol

-Indy

[ducatilover]

I honestly didn't think that'd be worth more than $2k :bleh:

[Indiana_Jones]

They are getting a bit thin on the ground, I wouldn't part with that sort of coin. I'd part with $4k for a tidy one.

Rem rounds soon, here's hoping trolololol

-Indy

[dangerous]

hey so, this dosnt look like a bad set up but whats got me is, hows them exhaust headers/manifold work, looks like a 5 cyl...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-939414711.htm

[YellowDog]

hey so, this dosnt look like a bad set up but whats got me is, hows them exhaust headers/manifold work, looks like a 5 cyl...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-939414711.htm

Reads like a real hotch-potch of crap that will never run for more than a few Ks. You'll need to keep a mallet on the passenger's seat so you can knock it into first, when you get to the lights. BUT at that price, what the hell :yes:

[scumdog]

hey so, this dosnt look like a bad set up but whats got me is, hows them exhaust headers/manifold work, looks like a 5 cyl...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-939414711.htm

If I needed another project (which I don't!) I'd buy it, cool-as!:niceone:

[husaberg]

hey so, this dosnt look like a bad set up but whats got me is, hows them exhaust headers/manifold work, looks like a 5 cyl...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-939414711.htm

A series only have 3 EX port exits. The other two are likely carb warmers.
Here is a B series Manifold Gasket
http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mUtSOzSvqqgQmepsQJM43bA.jpg
Two inlet 3 EX

[Indiana_Jones]

Now that's an interesting exhaust manifold on a B series.....

-Indy

[Motu]

It's MOWOG so genuine. There is no carb heating with twin carbs, the single carb on A & B had the centre port cast with the intake which heated the manifold. It was the expected thing for twin carbs to be a bit more fussy on warm up, you just put up with bogging and using more choke. Then people wanted to just turn the key and drive off. I've never seen one - probably for California and all their emission control crap.

[Berries]

Anyone close to Dunners should go to the Edgar Centre today for the car show. Some hot rods etc for those of you with goatees and the like but some classy Leyland vehicles like this one.

And there is a cool Allegro I have to get a photo of.

[Indiana_Jones]

The ratted yellow All-aggro?

My car was parked opposite to that one. It was quite a funny car to behold, I quite liked it.

-Indy

[Berries]

The ratted yellow All-aggro?
Yep, scuse the blurry nature of the photo, I was trying not to be seen.

If the red XK150 is yours I will swap you the above Vanden Plas for a weekend.

[Indiana_Jones]

lol sadly not, mine was the blue 18/85 at the Wolseley club stand.

I assume that was your Vanden Plas Princess? she looked very tidy :yes:

[Berries]

Yeah, considering we were both made in 68 she carries it better than I do.

[dangerous]

Yeah, considering we were both made in 68 she carries it better than I do.yeah fuck it... good year that

[scumdog]

yeah fuck it... good year that

Yeah, I was 15 then, not matured much since that year. ;)

[dangerous]

winga's offspring... god help us

now whats up with this GT6
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[scumdog]

winga's offspring... god help us

now whats up with this GT6



Left-hand drive?
Turbo'd?

[Moi]

Left-hand drive?
Turbo'd?

Could it be a compressor/supercharger unit rather than a turbo?

[dangerous]

good spotting SD left hook and yes thats a turbo... this is a supercharged TR6
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[J.A.W.]

My old man was a bit keen on the MOWOG horrors.. it was embarrassing, but at least usually - he got to cane 'em hard before they'd shit themselves..
..unless it was raining.. or, some other Lucas, or similar 1/2 arsed - let down componentry..

Anyone researched 'Goodbye Pork Pie'? How many of those wee yellow pus-buckets did they bin doing that.. as many as the Eyetie Job? Did NZ a favour..

[Moi]

good spotting SD left hook and yes thats a turbo... this is a supercharged TR6
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Should have read the 'tag' in the corner of the photo... Doh!

[dangerous]

that bloody Australian still here...

[husaberg]

that bloody Australian still here...

Any second now 5.4.3.2.1
Like a turd in a goldfish bowl

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/1959_Austin_Gipsy_series_1_at_the_Whitton_Museum.j pg/300px-1959_Austin_Gipsy_series_1_at_the_Whitton_Museum.j pg
Autsin Gypsy

The engine kind of formed the basis for the Vanderall F1 Car with a few mods. 5 bearing crankshaft.

Along with a works 500 Norton top end x 4

[J.A.W.]

that bloody Australian still here...

Which one? Tony bloody Abbott.. he's got a Kiwi missus y'know.. But his company car is a BMW - & they took over the bones of BLMC, huh?

( & Tony is a former Leyland P-38 owner/operator.. so I guess he's been a bit of a loser sincer way back)..

[Indiana_Jones]

Good yarn mate.

[J.A.W.]

Any second now 5.4.3.2.1
Like a turd in a goldfish bowl

Counting down yourself there H.. & you surely must've been referring to a BLMC product.. or you'll likely be pinged - for being off topic..

[J.A.W.]

Good yarn mate.


Yeah, & to his credit, it was a V8 manual, & he made his money back on it, selling it to a mate..

[J.A.W.]

Any second now 5.4.3.2.1
Like a turd in a goldfish bowl


Autsin Gypsy

The engine kind of formed the basis for the Vanderall F1 Car with a few mods. 5 bearing crankshaft.



Along with a works 500 Norton top end x 4


Good guess, but wrong H.. you sure bloody dropped that one, like an overipe stinker..

Vanwall used an al-alloy R-R mill as its architectural basis, not a huckery old Austin..

[husaberg]

The Rolls-Royce-designed B40 four-cylinder engine of 2838 cc . The military version was designated model WN1 by Austin.

[J.A.W.]

The Rolls-Royce-designed B40 four-cylinder engine of 2838 cc was fitted, the smallest of the standardised B-Range engines. This military version was designated model WN1 by Austin.
Prehaps if the Person spoke less and knew more.


Who designed it? R-R.. & just because Rover built V12 Meteor engines for tanks, does not mean it wasn't an R-R design too..

"Prehaps if the Person" did a bit of fact checking.. he might learn more..

[Flip]

Fuck me.
Another wikepedia sheep shagging expert from across the ditch!
Buy a BMC of get the fuckout of Dodge, mate.

[J.A.W.]

Hey flippo, you do realize we got 'em little horrors over here too.. even bloody six cylinder Marinas..

& "plate of shrimp" (Cf 'Repo Man') moment, I saw a mint looking P-38 drive past today, a clean ivory coloured V8 job, carefully driven by an old bloke..

[Voltaire]

Hey flippo, you do realize we got 'em little horrors over here too.. even bloody six cylinder Marinas..

& "plate of shrimp" (Cf 'Repo Man') moment, I saw a mint looking P-38 drive past today, a clean ivory coloured V8 job, carefully driven by an old bloke..

P-38 ..... :loL:

[J.A.W.]

P-38 ..... :loL:

FYI, P-38 is the standard term for the local Leyland P-76, for it being 1/2 as good - as it should've been..

[Swoop]

Fuck me.
Another wikepedia sheep shagging expert from across the ditch!
Buy a BMC of get the fuckout of Dodge, mate.

:rofl: He's the most bizarre personality on the site (currently) and we've certainly had a few!

[scumdog]

FYI, P-38 is the standard term for the local Leyland P-76, for it being 1/2 as good - as it should've been..

Well there ya go - and I thought a P38 was a fighter plane or a pistol from yonks ago....:shifty::whistle:

[Laava]

:rofl: He's the most bizarre personality on the site (currently) and we've certainly had a few!

By bizarre, do you mean bypassed?

[J.A.W.]

Well there ya go - and I thought a P38 was a fighter plane or a pistol from yonks ago....:shifty::whistle:


Nah, the pistols are still in production, ( unlike Leyland ) they just lost the Nazi nomenclature..

[dangerous]

Well there ya go - and I thought a P38 was a fighter plane or a pistol from yonks ago....:shifty::whistle:FFS... the P38 is the mid 90's modle of the range rover, you fuck wits trying to wind me up now...

[Voltaire]

Nah, the pistols are still in production, ( unlike Leyland ) they just lost the Nazi nomenclature..

Anyone famous own one of them pistols?

[J.A.W.]

Anyone famous own one of them pistols?

Who? James Bond had a Walther but it was a wee pocket-concealment jobbie, like the one der Fuehrer had, not a combat 9mm..

Leyland built Webley pistols at one time AFAIR..

[Virago]

I see the mighty Morris Marina has finally made it into a classic car for sale list.

http://www.waimakclassiccars.co.nz/cars/index.html

[Edbear]

Who? James Bond had a Walther but it was a wee pocket-concealment jobbie, like the one der Fuehrer had, not a combat 9mm..

Leyland built Webley pistols at one time AFAIR..

He updated to the Walther PPK as the .25 Beretta failed on him once. The boss decided he needed something more substantial.

[Edbear]

Any second now 5.4.3.2.1

Autsin Gypsy

The engine kind of formed the basis for the Vanderall F1 Car with a few mods. 5 bearing crankshaft.

Along with a works 500 Norton top end x 4

I liked the Gypsy back in the day. Thought it was better than the Landy.

[scumdog]

I see the mighty Morris Marina has finally made it into a classic car for sale list.

http://www.waimakclassiccars.co.nz/cars/index.html

Hence why I own one!

It's the Harley-Davidson of the car world!:niceone:

[Indiana_Jones]

I have a wee soft spot for the Marina, mainly due to the fact that my father-in-law owns one lol.

-Indy

[Virago]

Indi might like this one...

http://www.waimakclassiccars.co.nz/cars/335-Wolseley-Hornet-MK111.html

[vifferman]

Indi might like this one...

http://www.waimakclassiccars.co.nz/cars/335-Wolseley-Hornet-MK111.html
I always thought those looked kinda retarded. But then again, most British Leyland group cars were pretty dodgy designs.

[sidecar bob]

I see the mighty Morris Marina has finally made it into a classic car for sale list.

http://www.waimakclassiccars.co.nz/cars/index.html

are those guys buying cars on trademe & putting a zero on the end of the price?

[Motu]

It's just a knock off of a Riley Elf - the original is far better.

[Indiana_Jones]

Those jokers at Waimak give me a good laugh, don't get me wrong, they have some lovely looking examples, but they ask moonbeams for them.

Now someone buy me this please:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/auction-972749004.htm

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/421661957.jpg

-Indy

[Motu]

I'm looking for a cheap car right now, and that is just tempting me to do something really stupid.

[Indiana_Jones]

Please buy it so I don't have to lol.

You can sell it to me later on aye? :niceone:

-Indy

[Berries]

Now someone buy me this please:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/auction-972749004.htm
Have been on the look out for one of those so I can build one of these - http://www.kougar-cars.com (http://www.kougar-cars.com/display-sports.php?popup=false&entry=2)

[Indiana_Jones]

Giz

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=973769135

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/422088204.jpg

[YellowDog]

200 dusty classic cars found in a barn

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/motoring/news/the-collectors-200-dusty-classic-cars-found-in-a-barn/ar-CCrGJL?ocid=spartandhp

[yevjenko]

200 dusty classic cars found in a barn

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/motoring/news/the-collectors-200-dusty-classic-cars-found-in-a-barn/ar-CCrGJL?ocid=spartandhp
Would love to go and have a nosey around there.

Typical click bait headline. They weren't found In a barn... He's still putting them in, And taking them out, and putting them in

[YellowDog]

Would love to go and have a nosey around there.

Typical click bait headline. They weren't found In a barn... He's still putting them in, And taking them out, and putting them in

You'd need a lot of cash to get some of those into a show worthy state :yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

Anyone want to give me a XJ6? ;)

-Indy

[Motu]

I'm looking for a cheap car right now, and that is just tempting me to do something really stupid.

I wasn't stupid enough to get a Jag, so got this just before Xmas, 850 T5 for $500. It can tow a bike trailer at 150mph...a bit more useful than an XJ6.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af212/bmwr65/2015-12-13%2016.00.38_zpsxvysy3x1.jpg

[Indiana_Jones]

......But Jag?

[ducatilover]

I loved my Ovlov 850. And it was free

Sent from my SGH-I927 using Tapatalk

[Indiana_Jones]

Anyone (or know anyone) interested in a Wolseley 18/85 landcrab? (flick us a PM) :niceone:

-Indy

[awa355]

I thought ole Riley was an Irishman. Apparently not,

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[awa355]

A few more

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[5150]

For those of you who have never had the pleasure of owning a British car, but want to know what it's like: Next big rainstorm, wait till dark, roll down all windows, leave off lights & heater & wipers and go for a drive. Stop at every intersection and throw out a twenty dollar bill. It's not exactly the same, but it's real close.

[Dadpole]

Did one of you lot buy this? http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/daimler/auction-1040143706.htm

If it is the one I had a perve over a while back, then you got a nice looking beastie. I admit that the thought of anything requiring attention on the V12 would scare me away.

[Dadpole]

For those of you who have never had the pleasure of owning a British car, but want to know what it's like: Next big rainstorm, wait till dark, roll down all windows, leave off lights & heater & wipers and go for a drive. Stop at every intersection and throw out a twenty dollar bill. It's not exactly the same, but it's real close.

Sounds much like a Falcon I used to own.

[5150]

Did one of you lot buy this? http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/daimler/auction-1040143706.htm

If it is the one I had a perve over a while back, then you got a nice looking beastie. I admit that the thought of anything requiring attention on the V12 would scare me away.

No one wants to own up :lol:

[Stylo]

Sounds much like a Falcon I used to own.

Had a Falcon or two, memorable for the constant squeaks and rattles, remember that.

Best 6 Cylinder car produced from Australia was Mitsubishi 380, car of the year back in 2005.

I've had two. Quietest car I've ever owned.

The concept Station wagon would have been a starter ..

Only the good die young

[scumdog]

For those of you who have never had the pleasure of owning a British car, but want to know what it's like: Next big rainstorm, wait till dark, roll down all windows, leave off lights & heater & wipers and go for a drive. Stop at every intersection and throw out a twenty dollar bill. It's not exactly the same, but it's real close.


Oi, me Marina only requires a $5 be thrown out.


So there!:bleh:

[Dadpole]

Only the other day I was telling someone about the sixties sound. Coughing and wheezing in the morning as people push started their Brit cars.

[YellowDog]

For those of you who have never had the pleasure of owning a British car, but want to know what it's like: Next big rainstorm, wait till dark, roll down all windows, leave off lights & heater & wipers and go for a drive. Stop at every intersection and throw out a twenty dollar bill. It's not exactly the same, but it's real close.

I've had a few BL cars in my time. Quite an experience :o

All were disasters, with the exception of one shining example.

My 1979 Morris Marina 1700L was the only shining example. Bought it in 1981. Carpets, radio, and engine that could take some punishment, without complaining. Shocks & brakes were not great, but it is all relative and I ws a happy Marina owner :yes:

[Dadpole]

I gave a mate a lift when he went to check out a Marina. It turned out to have 2 doors and 6 cylinders. We took it for a test drive and were terrified. Much power, but handling and brakes that only existed in the mind of Leyland advertising people.

Of course, he bought it. Spent 6 months alternately repairing and being scared shitless by it before palming it off on some poor sap. Evidently the victim came back from the test drive shaking and smiling at the same time, passed over the money and left. The curse of the deadly Marina...

[5150]

Oi, me Marina only requires a $5 be thrown out.


So there!:bleh:

You must have been lucky and go one of the few good examples ;)

[5150]

What were they thinking? :facepalm:

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[awa355]

What were they thinking? :facepalm:

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I quite like it.

[swarfie]

I quite like it.

Your'e sick:puke:
The Poms (okay the Yanks as well) certainly built some fuggly ones:killingme

[Moi]

What were they thinking? :facepalm:

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Any worse than this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Ford_Thames_400E_at_Battlesbridge.JPG

Before anyone says "It's not BL!", yes I know... but the handling was on-par with the Leyland... Non-existent!

[dangerous]

what was the sliding door one, commer maybe?
most shit giving was a herald with a 2L V4 in it... did NOT buy that one

[Motu]

What were they thinking? :facepalm:

They probably thought ''What better use for the TR3 than to use it for a Van''....well, what better use for a Fergy engine really. I used to look after a fleet of Leyland 20's when an apprentice, we were wrapt when they repaced them with CF Bedfords, real high tech back then.

[jim.cox]

Any worse than this?

Yes MUCH MUCH worse

Note the narrow wheel track

Note the further inset of the front wheels

Allow for piss-poor cooling of a god awful motor

And a gear lever only vaguely connected to the gearbox

They are a pile of pooh from one end to the other

The Thames on the other hand were not too bad

[Moi]

what was the sliding door one, commer maybe?
most shit giving was a herald with a 2L V4 in it... did NOT buy that one

The Bedford van had a sliding door

http://www.classicandsportscar.ltd.uk/images_catalogue/large/bedfordvan%20001_4112.jpg

The Commer seems to have conventional doors though some appear to have sliding doors of the cab.

Wasn't the Triumph Vitesse an inline 6?

[Moi]

Yes MUCH MUCH worse

Note the narrow wheel track

Note the further inset of the front wheels

Allow for piss-poor cooling of a god awful motor

And a gear lever only vaguely connected to the gearbox

They are a pile of pooh from one end to the other

The Thames on the other hand were not too bad

Agreed... it was an awful vehicle to drive... if I remember, the Leyland went where you wanted to go only a good day and when the moon was in the right lunar phase...

[scumdog]

Your'e sick:puke:
The Poms (okay the Yanks as well) certainly built some fuggly ones:killingme

What country didn't???:msn-wink:

[scumdog]

The Bedford van had a sliding door



Drove one with 272 Customline V8 and Snipe box - and no brakes.

'Exciting' isn't the word...:blink::crazy:

[Moi]

Drove one with 272 Customline V8 and Snipe box - and no brakes.

'Exciting' isn't the word...:blink::crazy:

Sphincter clenching might be a better description...

but aren't brakes highly overrated?

[Motu]

I had a CA Bedford with a Vanguard 6 and box, a Cresta diff and a Marina dash. Cool bike hauler, hold the doors open with the little loop on the handle. Sold it to a BIL who put an MO Oxford grille on it.

[dangerous]

The Bedford van had a sliding door

Wasn't the Triumph Vitesse an inline 6?

yeah thats the one... cool aye

yes Vitesse was a 1600cc six (massy ferg engine also put in the vanguard) the last of them with the 2000cc triumph six... only ever drove one, farking leathel take off and the rear end takes a bit to catch up to the frront half, creaked n groaned something terable and ID LOVE ONE

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[pete376403]

Commer did a sliding door van, my dad had one. 1500 motor same as Humber 80. Doors could be held open with straps around the handles. Me and a couple of mates used to take it to town on Friday night, whooping down the motorway at all of 50 (mph as it was then), doors open, no seat belts. Could be lethal if you forgot the door strap and hit the brakes.

[Motu]

The CA Beddy was known as the Bread Van (we had everything delivered in the '50's and '60's, our mother's didn't have cars, so milk, bread, newspapers, coal, a fruit and veg truck, the grocer and butcher delivered). So in the morning the bread was delivered, the CA was left idling in 1st gear, and he left the doors open, jumping in and out delivering our bread.

[Berries]

I did a milk round in the late 70's / early 80's in a Mark 2 Transit with sliding doors. Chances of those being allowed now are zero, like the London buses you could jump off while they were still moving. I never had a problem doing the milk, but do recall my little brother jumping off a bus that was moving slightly faster than his little legs could propel him and seeing him bowl in to a crowd of people on the footpath. How we laughed.

[Daffyd]

Wasn't the Triumph Vitesse an inline 6?

My older brother had a 1600 Vitesse, then upgraded to the 2000 one. He loved it. Only sold it due to family outgrowing it. Moved up to a Peugeot 504 and has had Peugeots ever since.

When I was an apprentice I had to travel from Invercargill to Mataura, (about 50km), mostly in a CA Bedford. Noisy, slow, rolled all over the place. On the odd occasion I got to travel with another contractor that had a Leyland, formerly Atlas Major, and it was much faster, and more comfortable. Did the same trip in about half the time.

[awa355]

Once, dad the plumber would have been so proud to arrive at the family home after picking up his brand new Leyland 15 van. Kids would've been climbing all though it touching everything, a quick ride around the neighbour hood before tea. Dad telling mom how much stuff they would be able to pack into the van when Christmas holidays arrived.

A bit sad to think of yesterdays pride and joy being todays piece of shit. :crazy::crazy:

[Indiana_Jones]

Feel the BMC / BL love :)

[sidecar bob]

Once, dad the plumber would have been so proud to arrive at the family home after picking up his brand new Leyland 15 van. Kids would've been climbing all though it touching everything, a quick ride around the neighbour hood before tea. Dad telling mom how much stuff they would be able to pack into the van when Christmas holidays arrived.

A bit sad to think of yesterdays pride and joy being todays piece of shit. :crazy::crazy:

A bit like ex wives really.

[Stylo]

Mate of mine had a Standard Vanguard, two tone green and white .

He replaced the original motor with a 308 Holden from a wrecked HQ ,but kept the the Town and Countries on the back.

Wish I'd taken a picture, used to go like shit with the knobblies on the back. Didn't handle too well though.

Great fun on a Friday night

[dangerous]

farks up with people... 10K! its missing a bloody door for a start
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-1045193027.htm

and so fucking cool its cooler than cool... but 70K, dream on
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-1045678467.htm

[Grumph]

Believe me, you wouldn't want the Mayflower...even as a playhouse for the boys.

The TR2 price i'd guess reflects the amount of pro restoration needed plus parts...Still overpriced IMO, even for a longdoor.

[Motu]

The Mayflower is a ''Coupe'' with a ''Flathead'' mill. Selling is all about key words these day. The Mayflower is a good example of making an ugly car even more ugly by reducing the size....of the Renown.

[pete376403]

All those straight seams - panelbeaters nightmare (in the old days when panels were actually beaten)

[dangerous]

(in the old days when panels were actually beaten)
and the missus, even the kids if they didnt tidy there room...

ohh and the dangerous tardme pick of the week... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mg/auction-1047336754.htm

[dangerous]

cool... whats the engine tho, 6 pots but the HT leads run down the middle, twin cam or double over head rockers maybe... gota be a grunt box...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/other/auction-1060736295.htm

[Grumph]

Pretty sure they're still the sidevalve motor. There's a hophead up at Whitecliffs i think still has one. I worked with a guy some years back who kept one going which was in pretty good nick - but only got around $500 when he sold it....That one is "optimistically priced"...

[Motu]

That's the 3 litre hemi head engine, I used to look after one, and had the head off once. They are really nice, and I think I saw it a couple of weeks ago - there must've been some big Rootes get together before Easter as I saw a lot of Hillmans and Humbers heading south, and I certainly saw a late model Supersnipe.

[Grumph]

That's the 3 litre hemi head engine, I used to look after one, and had the head off once. They are really nice, and I think I saw it a couple of weeks ago - there must've been some big Rootes get together before Easter as I saw a lot of Hillmans and Humbers heading south, and I certainly saw a late model Supersnipe.

Is that the motor with the oddball crossed pushrods like a prewar Delahaye ?

[dangerous]

Pretty sure they're still the sidevalve motor..no way.... surley not?


That's the 3 litre hemi head engineHemi... thats a double over head rocker set up? like the damiler 2.5 V8?

[dangerous]

heres one for ya... would ya prefer a highly moderfied or a mint as minor mods car? eg in this case a GT6 the V8 or the minter with mags and carbs?

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[Moi]

cool... whats the engine tho, 6 pots but the HT leads run down the middle, twin cam or double over head rockers maybe... gota be a grunt box...

This might help...

http://www.civilengineeringhandbook.tk/electronic-control/48humber-super-snipe-engine.html

[Motu]

Is that the motor with the oddball crossed pushrods like a prewar Delahaye ?


Like a Chrysler hemi...or a Peugeot....or Ed Turners Daimler V8's.

[jim.cox]

Ed Turners Daimler V8's.

Ah ha, I knew there had to be a reason I never liked that motor...

[pete376403]

I have a friend who used to buy snipes, super snipes, etc in bulk for next to nothing. They got smashed in demolition derbies at Te marua speedway. Yes, a true philistine.

[YellowDog]

and so fucking cool its cooler than cool... but 70K, dream on
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-1045678467.htm

I really must concur. Rather farkin nice.

I'd go $30k tops though :yes:

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/458535783.jpg

[husaberg]

no way.... surley not?

Hemi... thats a double over head rocker set up? like the damiler 2.5 V8?


Like a Chrysler hemi...or a Peugeot....or Ed Turners Daimler V8's.

Hemi means the valves are disposed at an angle, where as in a normal car of the era the were upright.
The Daimler V8 were basically a few triumph twin heads added together. Still poos, but better than most of the other poos car head designs of the era.
The valves are displaced to wide apart resulting in a crap domed head ie it was impossible a decent amount of compression without a huge dome which because of its shape needed a huge amount of power killing ignition advance.
Good points are Yes They can fit in huge valves, Granted Triumph motorbikes went well, in spite of this, mainly because they had two cams so the overlap could be adjusted easily.

Late model Kawaskis Z1 and GPZ (as well as the Harley XR750's Believe it or not) basically perfected the designed with narrower angles and squish with plenty of turbulence.
None of these are as good as a ken Duckworths shallow angle low domed high comp 4V designed head,(Cosworth) which was subsequently copied by everyone from Ducati to Honda.

[Motu]

If you look at Moi's link, you will see the Humber has flat top pistons, that's what these heads were designed for. Far better than BMC's Westlake head with it's couple of dozen patent numbers printed on the rocker cover. An excellent design for the era, and a major advance on previous Super Snipe engines....more power from less capacity.

[dangerous]

hey look, far from BMC but figgered it was worth putting up, bloody cool...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mazda/auction-1073774364.htm

[Grumph]

Alan Norfolk of Norjo Motors in chCh used to run a 929 wagon. It came close to being written off at an early Classic register meeting at levels.
Howard Anderson was starting a Goldie on rollers, it fired, the clutch cable broke and he rode it up the passenger side of the 929...
With Mrs Norfolk sitting in the passenger seat...
No injuries, Goldie was fixed and racing that day, and I used to see the 929 around ChCh quite often after Alan sold it.

[Motu]

Surprised that any 929 has survived, they only lasted as long as they did because the paint held the body together - those early Jap cars were bigger rust buckets than any British car.

[dangerous]

Surprised that any 929 has survived, they only lasted as long as they did because the paint held the body together - those early Jap cars were bigger rust buckets than any British car.solid as fuck compaired to the Fiats of that era

[Motu]

In 1980/81 I was working for a Fiat/Mazda agent - there was no comparison. The Mazdas were stodgy rear wheel drive, single overhead cam and boring as hell. There was the rotary, a bit weird, but nothing special. The Fiats were exciting stuff - belt driven overhead cam, some twin cam, weber carbs, some with a couple of side draughts, 4 wheel disc brakes, some were front wheel drive. The Fiats were Italian, they were made to be driven by lunatics, and I slotted into that mindset. We had Mazda 808's, 626's and 929's - who would want to buy that crap?

[dangerous]

In 1980/81 I was working for a Fiat/Mazda agent - there was no comparison. The Mazdas were stodgy rear wheel drive, single overhead cam and boring as hell. There was the rotary, a bit weird, but nothing special. The Fiats were exciting stuff - belt driven overhead cam, some twin cam, weber carbs, some with a couple of side draughts, 4 wheel disc brakes, some were front wheel drive. The Fiats were Italian, they were made to be driven by lunatics, and I slotted into that mindset. We had Mazda 808's, 626's and 929's - who would want to buy that crap?

dont doubt that for a second... awesome few mates had em back in the day but man were they rust buckets...

[Motu]

Then the Jap cars got scab rust. My mother wanted to get out of her Mini, so I was looking for a car for her, I wanted to get her a Fiat 128. Was looking at a 4 year old Corolla DX, put my hand up behind the bumper and it just went right through the rear panel, totally gone, rotten. Got her a nice Starlet that never rusted while she had it. I wrote a 4 year old Subaru off the road for rust, there were no bottoms in all 4 doors, pillars and sills were rotten. People just love to rubbish British cars and say good the Jap cars were, but really, in the real world, they big pieces of shit too.

[yevjenko]

You think the japs used to rust here... We salt our roads in the winter in the UK. You could almost watch the early 70's jap stuff dissolve in front of your eyes come winter time

[Grumph]

Then the Jap cars got scab rust. My mother wanted to get out of her Mini, so I was looking for a car for her, I wanted to get her a Fiat 128. Was looking at a 4 year old Corolla DX, put my hand up behind the bumper and it just went right through the rear panel, totally gone, rotten. Got her a nice Starlet that never rusted while she had it. I wrote a 4 year old Subaru off the road for rust, there were no bottoms in all 4 doors, pillars and sills were rotten. People just love to rubbish British cars and say good the Jap cars were, but really, in the real world, they big pieces of shit too.

Wasn't there a whole batch of Toyotas - mainly DX Corollas - that made the news for faulty rustproofing ?

I was working with a DX owner at the time and he copped a lot of stick over that - a fair amount of which i was responsible for....

[Ocean1]

Wasn't there a whole batch of Toyotas - mainly DX Corollas - that made the news for faulty rustproofing ?

I was working with a DX owner at the time and he copped a lot of stick over that - a fair amount of which i was responsible for....

Aye, the father had one as a work car for a while. Completely unfixable.

Truly appalling fuck up, but to be fair it proved the kick up the arse that made Toyotas bloody good value for the next 30 years.

[scumdog]

In 1980/81 I was working for a Fiat/Mazda agent - there was no comparison. The Mazdas were stodgy rear wheel drive, single overhead cam and boring as hell. There was the rotary, a bit weird, but nothing special. The Fiats were exciting stuff - belt driven overhead cam, some twin cam, weber carbs, some with a couple of side draughts, 4 wheel disc brakes, some were front wheel drive. The Fiats were Italian, they were made to be driven by lunatics, and I slotted into that mindset. We had Mazda 808's, 626's and 929's - who would want to buy that crap?

Our 'newest' car is a '88 626 - a GLX mind, nothing to be sneered at.;)

Got it last year, only had 72,000km from new.

[Stylo]

I must have just missed the BL period but my mate has a series 2 XJ6 which , by now of course has had it's build problems etc all sorted ex BL assembled in Nelson? Last English made car I had was a Vauxhall Ventora series 1, 3.3 motor 4 speed manual, no overdrive on that model but I remember doing 100mph with two surf-boards on the roof, 3 of my mates on board and 2 crates of beer in the boot, heading to Mt Maunganui .....

[pete376403]

Previous employer had a fleet of Datsun 180B company cars. They were always at the panel shop for rust remediation. I recall there was an investigation at the time by a TV current affairs program into why the jap cars (not just 180Bs) were rusting out after such a short time. The response from Japan was that they didn't see it as a problem, as the cars were old (3 -4 years) anyway and due for scrapping anyway.

And this is a long way from British Leyland, sorry.

[Motu]

Someone posted a Mazda 929 in here - I think we've all agreed they were crap. Let normal transmission resume.

[eldog]

Our 'newest' car is a '88 626 - a GLX mind, nothing to be sneered at.;)

Got it last year, only had 72,000km from new.

You got colour TV down your way yet?

or is that Alexandra that doesn't have it?

I have a BL inline 4 cylinder diesel at work, it's an olde girl and I like the way it easily starts and runs not much above idle. At least I think it's a BL.

Saw a similar one but older at the Putaruru Timber Museum the other week, the guy at the front office was surprised I was interested but stated it has just stopped working, yeah right it had just stopped.

[dangerous]

Again way off BMC topic but heres a classic for ya... kids 6th birthday party yesterday and kids were being droped off... the last one I heard comming from 2km away, sounded like a irikoy chopper, was fair motering hauls the anchors over board swings up the drive... thud thud thud all 10,300cc of it... in one pot, kid jumps off and asks were the party is...




LANZ Bulldog :eek5:

[Grumph]

Again way off BMC topic but heres a classic for ya... kids 6th birthday party yesterday and kids were being droped off... the last one I heard comming from 2km away, sounded like a irikoy chopper, was fair motering hauls the anchors over board swings up the drive... thud thud thud all 10,300cc of it... in one pot, kid jumps off and asks were the party is...




LANZ Bulldog :eek5:

So that's what the moving quake was. I figured if it stopped with a bang I'd go and look...

Used to be a hell of a lot of Nuffield tractors in this area.

[dangerous]

WTF... its a old run down holden... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/holden/auction-1076544572.htm

[sidecar bob]

WTF... its a old run down holden... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/holden/auction-1076544572.htm

Yes, but if you read carefully, it is the very rare one with the 54 litre engine.:niceone:

[Grumph]

Yes, but if you read carefully, it is the very rare one with the 54 litre engine.:niceone:

That would account for the hundred grand buy now, then.....

[scumdog]

WTF... its a old run down holden... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/holden/auction-1076544572.htm


IF it's a genuine Bathurst model it's getting into the 'collectible' catagory, very collectible.

Still not a Leyland though....:msn-wink:

[sidecar bob]

IF it's a genuine Bathurst model it's getting into the 'collectible' catagory, very collectible.

Still not a Leyland though....:msn-wink:

Rubbish is collectable, I know this because I have a rubbish collector.

[Moi]

One man's rubbish is another man's treasure...

does this explain why some drive BL products? :whistle:

[Motu]

My treasures are another man's rubbish.

[T.W.R]

WTF... its a old run down holden... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/holden/auction-1076544572.htm

:rolleyes: 25yrs ago an uncle sold one of those to an aussie collector for $35k, had the factory 327 v8, muncie gearbox, drop-tanks etc...... Bloody thirsty old tank :cool:

As for the Lanz Bulldog.....you know their nic-name is 'jew burner' :rolleyes:

[Virago]

Anyone looking for a "project"? :rolleyes:

http://www.turners.co.nz/Cars/Search/Triumph/Spitfire/15175473

[Grumph]

Anyone looking for a "project"? :rolleyes:


Listed as having 5 seats I note, hope a couple are in good nick.

Guy in Canada who runs the Laverda forum restored one of those. Only the firewall and transmission tunnel were rust free...I told him that was just like a Mk2 Jag...The oil keeps those bits mint.

[dangerous]

:rolleyes: 25yrs ago an uncle sold one of those to an aussie collector for $35k, had the factory 327 v8, muncie gearbox, drop-tanks etc...... Bloody thirsty old tank :cool:

As for the Lanz Bulldog.....you know their nic-name is 'jew burner' :rolleyes:

well your the country bogan round here... that HT? monaro looks bog standard... what makes it a "bathurst" its not like a XW/Y shaker or anything?

[Bass]

LANZ Bulldog :eek5:

Found out recently that they were 2 strokes and the last one may have been made in the 60's. Didn't know they went on for that long.

I recall thinking that at idle, the piston is stationary and the tractor shakes backwards and forwards.

[neels]

You could be the proud owner of this fine example of british auto design......

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-1071140842.htm

[YellowDog]

You could be the proud owner of this fine example of british auto design......

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-1071140842.htm

He wants $2k AND you'll need to hire a trailer to get it home :yawn:

Even Donald Trump is a better business man than that ;)

[scumdog]

well your the country bogan round here... that HT? monaro looks bog standard... what makes it a "bathurst" its not like a XW/Y shaker or anything?

Google it ya lazy ginga!:bleh::corn:

[sidecar bob]

He wants $2k AND you'll need to hire a trailer to get it home :yawn:


And has been suitably wound up for his trouble. ;)
Worth 8k going good, but 2k with a gearbox issue??
Just one random example of what 8k can get you, & the BMW probably isint even cheap at that. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1073606266.htm

[dangerous]

Found out recently that they were 2 strokes and the last one may have been made in the 60's. Didn't know they went on for that long.

I recall thinking that at idle, the piston is stationary and the tractor shakes backwards and forwards.

The Lanz Bulldog was a tractor manufactured by Heinrich Lanz AG in Mannheim, Baden-Württemberg, Germany. Production started in 1921 and various versions of the Bulldog were produced up to 1960. John Deere purchased Lanz in 1956 and started using the name "John Deere-Lanz" for the Lanz product line. A few years after the Bulldog was discontinued the Lanz name fell into disuse.

The Bulldog was a simple and easily maintained vehicle due primarily to its simple, single cylinder, horizontal, two-stroke, hot bulb engine. Initially the engine was a 6.3 litre, 12 horsepower unit, but as the Bulldog evolved the engine was increased to 10.3 litres and 55 horsepower.

The hot-bulb engine (also hotbulb or heavy-oil engine) is a type of internal combustion engine. It is an engine in which fuel is ignited by being brought into contact with a red-hot metal surface inside a bulb, followed by the introduction of air (oxygen) compressed into the hot-bulb chamber by the rising piston. There is some ignition when the fuel is introduced, but it quickly uses up the available oxygen in the bulb. Vigorous ignition takes place only when sufficient oxygen is supplied to the hot-bulb chamber on the compression stroke of the engine. Most hot-bulb engines were produced as one-cylinder, low-speed two-stroke crankcase scavenged units

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[YellowDog]

And has been suitably wound up for his trouble. ;)
Worth 8k going good, but 2k with a gearbox issue??
Just one random example of what 8k can get you, & the BMW probably isint even cheap at that. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1073606266.htm

The beemer looks nice for that money.

The land crab guy has no hope. $2k with a duff gearbox, more like $200. He's a bad temptered bugger too. Let's hope his blood pressure holds out :crazy:

[dangerous]

You could be the proud owner of this fine example of british auto design......

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-1071140842.htm

fuck... with an attude like that only a fool would buy from him

[sidecar bob]

fuck... with an attude like that only a fool would buy from him

Yes, & sadly he won't answer my last question. I think he may have mistaken me for being maxed out in the piss taking stakes the first time.
Maybe it is worth 8k in Invercargill. I wouldn't even accept it as a gift.

[scumdog]

fuck... with an attude like that only a fool would buy from him

I admire his tact and patience! - he'd be great as a hostage negotiator :laugh:

[T.W.R]

well your the country bogan round here... that HT? monaro looks bog standard... what makes it a "bathurst" its not like a XW/Y shaker or anything?


Google it ya lazy ginga!:bleh::corn:

20 odd yrs can't remember all the wee bits but scummie is right :shutup:
I remember Den's had bonnet scoops & an off-set stripe over the passenger side of the car.


Found out recently that they were 2 strokes and the last one may have been made in the 60's. Didn't know they went on for that long.

I recall thinking that at idle, the piston is stationary and the tractor shakes backwards and forwards.

Rakaia/Dorie area is the home of lanz in NZ :yes: The 1st one in the country is still owned by the original owners family & still runs; at one stage there were at least 30 in the district.
Had the pleasure of driving one a few yrs back, good fun...heating them up then spinning the engine over with the steering wheel.
Funny when they run backwards :shutup:
A co-worker just sold one a couple of wks back for $15k

[YellowDog]

LOOK: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-1074600730.htm

This one's only $7.5k and is as unfucked as can be for thast age.

Someone do the fool a favour and let him know there are better examples around :yes:

http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/468467880.jpg

[Laava]

LOOK: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-1074600730.htm

This one's only $7.5k and is as unfucked as can be for thast age.

Someone do the fool a favour and let him know there are better examples around :yes:



Available in british union worker bile green!

[Grumph]

LOOK:

This one's only $7.5k and is as unfucked as can be for thast age.

Someone do the fool a favour and let him know there are better examples around :yes:

Have a look at their other listings - I think the Lambretta for nearly 7 grand is possibly a bigger crime....

[5150]

LOOK: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/auction-1074600730.htm

This one's only $7.5k and is as unfucked as can be for thast age.

Someone do the fool a favour and let him know there are better examples around :yes:



Ahhh, Good old Maxi... The Evil of the British Empire....:facepalm:

[sidecar bob]

Ahhh, Good old Maxi... The Evil of the British Empire....:facepalm:

I recently learned that the Maxi was the only vehicle that BL allowed to have the hatchback.
While it would have made the Allegro slightly less of an abomination, they wouldn't allow it as they believed it would steal sales from the Maxi.
It seems obvious why they went bust now, I wonder if it was that obvious back then. Clearly run by a bunch of ass hats.