British Leyland

[dangerous]

Na lol, it's a straight 6 2L/2.5L

The stag had the same styling, but that horrible horrible V8

-Indy what the fark you guys hassling the 3L stag 8 for... well?




Every Stag I've driven has always had the Ford V6 upgrade.Ive never ever, ever ever heard of a v6 ford in a stag???

[scumdog]

what the fark you guys hassling the 3L stag 8 for... well?



Ive never ever, ever ever heard of a v6 ford in a stag???

Me neither:no:

[Bikemad]

it is a nice lookin set of wheels..........no photos of the front seats?
guy i knew once had a series 2 vanden plas ? daimler with the chrome sculptures and a 400 small block installed.........loved that car

[Virago]

...If it's the same engine as was in the 3.2 sport (which I think it is) it was very very good indeed when I had one as a company car in the early to mid 90s.

I am presuming that the 4.0 was in the later models, which may be a little larger than I would like...

Nah, the Jaguar AJ-V8 engine was all new for the X308 model, available in 3.2, 4.0 and 4.0 supercharged versions. It spelt the end of the XJ6 and XJ12 models.

The biggest problem was the Nikasil-coated cylinder liners. Great for race cars, but prone to failure in longer-term usage. They were a brief (but sorry) problem.

The later X350 / X358 XJ (the first with the aluminium body) had the larger 3.5 and 4.2 V8s, along with a 3.0 V6 (the return of the XJ6).

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_AJ-V8_engine

[YellowDog]

what the fark you guys hassling the 3L stag 8 for... well?



Ive never ever, ever ever heard of a v6 ford in a stag???

In the UK, the Ford V6 (Essex) was quite a common cheap swap out (2.5l or 3.0l out of a Capri) until the 3.5 V8 later became the standard. From what I remember from a mate's Stag, the engine mountings were almost identical and didn't need much effort to install. The gearbox was another issue all together :shit:

[ducatilover]

The Essex was a decent wee unit. The Cologne 2.8 was a great unit too :wari:

[dangerous]

Me neither:no:I know, why would you put a crappy ford engine into a decent 'real' British car for :confused:

[Indiana_Jones]

The problem I have with the Jags, apart from being huge like a ship lol, is the fact that nearly all of the post 1970 ones are auto :(

PS Bikemad, afraid the pick ups have never done it for me, just not my cup of tea.

-Indy

[ducatilover]

I know, why would you put a crappy ford engine into a decent 'real' British car for :confused:

Because the silly Staaaaaaaag blew up? It's a real shame those V8's weren't stronger, a good Staaaaaaaaag is a sexy car

[YellowDog]

The problem I have with the Jags, apart from being huge like a ship lol, is the fact that nearly all of the post 1970 ones are auto :(

PS Bikemad, afraid the pick ups have never done it for me, just not my cup of tea.

-Indy

It's an age thing Indy.

When you pull out of the suicide jockey thing and slow the pace a little with some more space (for a ship sized car) - you'll like Jags :yes:

[ducatilover]

I wouldn't own a manual Jag, unless it was an E-type. Sorry Indy lol I just think it defeats the purpose of a Jag. To waft everywhere :love:

[Indiana_Jones]

lol fair enough comments.

At this stage I'm happy to buzz around in a mini etc saw a nice morris oxford on tardme :)

-Indy

[ducatilover]

What about an Imp? :Punk:

[YellowDog]

What about an Imp? :Punk:

Ah, the good old Hillman Imp. I had a girlfriend with one. It seemed to struggle getting enough air to the rear to cool the engine. A London double decker bus hit her rear end and she was really upset about it. I said "did you get its number?" she said,
"yes, it was a number 19" Her insurance wouldn't pay up as she couldn't identify the bus that hit her :rofl:

Back to those Jags, this one's http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=399333668 only local and I might well pop up for a butchers :Punk:

[ducatilover]

Ah, the good old Hillman Imp. I had a girlfriend with one. It seemed to struggle getting enough air to the rear to cool the engine. A London double decker bus hit her rear end and she was really upset about it. I said "did you get its number?" she said,
"yes, it was a number 19" Her insurance wouldn't pay up as she couldn't identify the bus that hit her :rofl:

Back to those Jags, this one's http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=399333668 only local and I might well pop up for a butchers :Punk:
Hahahaha silly wee cars aren't they?

That's very nice! I have a hankering for a 6cyl XJR, so much grunt per $!

[Virago]

...Back to those Jags, this one's http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=399333668 only local and I might well pop up for a butchers :Punk:

Oooh, that's new on the market - nice...! It's got the bigger 4.0 V8 too. Lower k's, and the history sounds good.

Good luck. :yes:

[Bikemad]

first car was a hand me down 52 morry oxford...........1476 CCs of raw flathead power man.............60 something MPH flat out........me and a couple of mates used to practice gettin her up on two wheels round the block......multiple axle replacements on that ol girl...........traded it for my first bike..........TS250 savage...grrr

[YellowDog]

Oooh, that's new on the market - nice...! It's got the bigger 4.0 V8 too. Lower k's, and the history sounds good.

Good luck. :yes:

If I get out to see it, I'll report back!

Jags were always a complete no no for me, mainly due to the lack of rear seating space. LWB changes that and having had positive Jag experiences in the 90s, I really do believe them to be great value.

As for the Morris Oxford on two wheels, that would have made a great Youtube moment :lol: If it was a 1952 model, that would have been the bubble shaped one? The later one looked more like an Austin Cambridge.

I used to drive my Dad's Hillman SuperMinx. Great 1600cc engine, but the dampers, suspension, and brakes were not up too much :no:

[slowpoke]

No new cars today worth mentioning. The search continues <_<

-Indy

Sorry mate, you can't buy new cars with cross plies, vaccuum operated wipers, and Lucas "prince of darkness" electrics anymore, lol. Seriously, what are you looking for? I'm always teasing the mostly Aussie crew I work with by bringing up Tard Me bargains, and they can't believe what we have available for next to nix. They're out there, you just have to widen your horizons.

I thought I'd never ever be interested in a 4WD, let alone a stinkin' diesel but had my preconceptions blown out of the water just before Chrissy. Wandering around Melbourne I chanced upon a test drive in an Audi Q7 6.0L TDi V12. Fuck me, does 500hp and 1000Nm of torque change your mind as to what a block of flats is capable of. Completely out of my price bracket, but absolutely mind altering. First diesel I've ever come across that actually sounded good too. I've just gotta wait 10 years for it to become affordable now, lol. :wait:


I'll stick with me 7-litre!:laugh:


I'm with you brutha! 5.8 in my case, but why the poms insisted on their girly wee engines has got me stuffed. Carroll Shelby pointed them in the right direction back in '61 but they never picked up the ball and ran with it.

[Kickaha]

The biggest problem was the Nikasil-coated cylinder liners. Great for race cars, but prone to failure in longer-term usage. They were a brief (but sorry) problem.

Yet most motorcycle manufacturers have used Nicasil in their bikes for 2-3 decades with no problems

I know, why would you put a crappy ford engine into a decent 'real' British car for :confused:
Because the "real British" car motors were crap

[Indiana_Jones]

Sorry mate, you can't buy new cars with cross plies, vaccuum operated wipers, and Lucas "prince of darkness" electrics anymore, lol. Seriously, what are you looking for? I'm always teasing the mostly Aussie crew I work with by bringing up Tard Me bargains, and they can't believe what we have available for next to nix. They're out there, you just have to widen your horizons.


Pretty much anything old school Brit :)

-Indy

[dangerous]

Because the silly Staaaaaaaag blew up? It's a real shame those V8's weren't stronger, a good Staaaaaaaaag is a sexy car What was their week point? Ive not knowen of any that have 'blowen up' sure they wernt the best engine Triumph built but all those Iv driven have been strong, after all they are is two of the slant 4's welded up LOL

[Indiana_Jones]

I think it was the alloy heads? didn't they warp like there was no tomorrow (which was true for fucking LEyland lol)

-Indy

[ducatilover]

What was their week point? Ive not knowen of any that have 'blowen up' sure they wernt the best engine Triumph built but all those Iv driven have been strong, after all they are is two of the slant 4's welded up LOL

I have heard of a few dropping valves :shit: But all in all I don't think they're that bad :shifty: Could be worse.

[YellowDog]

Stags were not generally carefully driven as they were seen as a high performance sports car.

Abuse any motor and it will pay you back with trouble. I guess that fuel was just too cheap in those days >$2/ltr = less thirst and longer lasting motors :yes:

[scumdog]

What was their week point? Ive not knowen of any that have 'blowen up' sure they wernt the best engine Triumph built but all those Iv driven have been strong, after all they are is two of the slant 4's welded up LOL

The timing chains.

They are about 8 miles long and caused quite a few problems because of that.

[dangerous]

ohhh come on guys, cam chains, heads, bores... this is how rumors get about, nothing wrong with the 3L 8 now is there, try n pull the wool over my eyes ya bastards :laugh:

[ducatilover]

Buy one then, I dare ya :laugh:

[Virago]

Yet most motorcycle manufacturers have used Nicasil in their bikes for 2-3 decades with no problems...

Yeah, didn't work too well for Jaguar though. As I understand it, the cylinder liners on some of those XJ8s were eaten away by some petrol additives. Jag replaced many motors under warranty, but many lesser affected cars became liabilities for success owners.

[ducatilover]

Nicasil and Alusil are both very, very old.

'34 Hudsons had Alusil pistons. :Punk: Hudson did some very advanced cars, I love them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hudson_Eight_Convertible_Coupe_1934.jpg They got the year wrong on this, unless it's had a '35 grill fitted. :shifty:

[Virago]

All this discussion about classic cars from our nostalgic past (sorry, not you, Indi...), is great fun. All the talk of ripping out motors and dropping in V8s is a great trip down memory lane.

But would you do it now? If you picked up a mint factory Triumph 2500TC tomorrow, would you "hot it up" like you did back in the day? Or keep it - and drive it - as it was built (warts 'n all)?

Let's face it, if it's speed and handling you want, most modern shit boxes will piss all over our nostalgia trips. I've got a late model (BF) Falcon, it would wipe the floor with most old V8s, particularly handling-wise. But as much as I love it, it's got no character - it's "just a car".

For me, buying a classic car from my youth means slowing down. Perhaps digging out my dad's old flat-cap (lol), and becoming one of those dreaded Sunday Drivers...

[ducatilover]

I'll still stick an 8 in anything. I don't care if the flatmates 300ZX or Soarer V8 will destroy something with a Rover 8 in it, I'll have a car I like, making noises I want on a reasonable budget :Punk::love:

It's funny because a BF Falcon is by no means fast or good handling. An E39 BMW 5 series Msport will run rings around one all day and is still of higher quality build, ride quality, brakes....gruniter....

But, a Morrie with tube front chassis and a 3.5 V8 still gives me a massive horn

[Virago]

Okay, you can wear your flat-cap backwards then...:laugh:

(Or is it sideways now? I can't keep up...)

[ducatilover]

Okay, you can wear your flat-cap backwards then...:laugh:

(Or is it sideways now? I can't keep up...)

I have to get a tweed flat-cap, I need one for my next Morrie.

[Indiana_Jones]

All this discussion about classic cars from our nostalgic past (sorry, not you, Indi...), is great fun. All the talk of ripping out motors and dropping in V8s is a great trip down memory lane.

But would you do it now? If you picked up a mint factory Triumph 2500TC tomorrow, would you "hot it up" like you did back in the day? Or keep it - and drive it - as it was built (warts 'n all)?

Let's face it, if it's speed and handling you want, most modern shit boxes will piss all over our nostalgia trips. I've got a late model (BF) Falcon, it would wipe the floor with most old V8s, particularly handling-wise. But as much as I love it, it's got no character - it's "just a car".

For me, buying a classic car from my youth means slowing down. Perhaps digging out my dad's old flat-cap (lol), and becoming one of those dreaded Sunday Drivers...

lol I think DL is younger then me :D

But I'm with you mate, I have a tweed jacket from my MG days and will dust it out for whatever comes next, Wolseley or Triumph I'm thinking lol

Got a cheese cutter somewhere too I think.

I'd be keeping my car stock if it came that way :)

-Indy

[ducatilover]

lol I think DL is younger then me :D

But I'm with you mate, I have a tweed jacket from my MG days and will dust it out for whatever comes next, Wolseley or Triumph I'm thinking lol

Got a cheese cutter somewhere too I think.

I'd be keeping my car stock if it came that way :)

-Indy
I'm a mighty 22 years young :Police:

I prefer original classics.

Or anything original looking with a dirty 8 cyl...


I want a clean original Morrie coupe with roof racks and white tyre stripes :love: That'll suit me for a daily driver.

Or an MGB with chrome bumpers and either minilites or wires. :love:

[Virago]

I'm a mighty 22 years young :Police:

Fuck off. You're an old fart...:laugh:

[ducatilover]

Fuck off. You're an old fart...:laugh:

Sometimes I wonder :confused:

[Indiana_Jones]

Sometimes I wonder :confused:

Makes two of us bro lol

-Indy

[The Pastor]

British everything sucks.

apart from these chocolate masmellows that mum buys

[Indiana_Jones]

British beer > all other beers.

Yea that's about it really

-Indy

[ducatilover]

The British make really good.......um....you know?.....ahhhh........Fuck! Who cares, they make sexy cars and sexy bikes.

[Indiana_Jones]

The British make really good.......um....you know?.....ahhhh........Fuck! Who cares, they make sexy cars and sexy bikes.

lol +1

-Indy

[YellowDog]

British beer > all other beers.

Yea that's about it really

-Indy

If you like Britsh Beer, Galbraiths on Mt. Eden Road brew on site and a pint of Old Bell Ringer is (apart from being served too cold) as good as it gets anywhere :yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

If you like Britsh Beer, Galbraiths on Mt. Eden Road brew on site and a pint of Old Bell Ringer is (apart from being served too cold) as good as it gets anywhere :yes:

Quite like that pub.

Speakers corner I also drop into once a month.

Get some mean cider from the British food/grog shop in Onehunga :yes:

-Indy

[dangerous]

If you like Britsh Beer, Galbraiths on Mt. Eden Road brew on site and a pint of Old Bell Ringer is (apart from being served too cold) as good as it gets anywhere :yes:
HOW the fuck can a beer brewed in Dorkland be BRITISH??? LOL next ya say the trecka and Enzeta are British :shifty:

[YellowDog]

HOW the fuck can a beer brewed in Dorkland be BRITISH??? LOL next ya say the trecka and Enzeta are British :shifty:

Britsh-Style Beer :laugh:

[dangerous]

Britsh-Style Beer :laugh: Ohhhh... ok, so whos gona post a bottle down to me then aye AYE? proberly even be warm by the time it gets here, Dorkland snow and all ;)


farking serious here ya know...

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.theenglishcornershop.co.nz/alcohol.htm

Take your pick mate :D

-Indy

[YellowDog]

Ah Merridown Cider for the ladies. That brings back some memories!

The more they drink, the more shaggable you look :laugh:

[dangerous]

http://www.theenglishcornershop.co.nz/alcohol.htm

Take your pick mate :D

-Indy

You choose, in return a local brew up to 8%

[Indiana_Jones]

Been offered it for $2k on tardme

<img src="http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/9/175646209_full.jpg">

Tempting....

Thoughts?

-Indy

[blackdog]

Looks pretty good for $2k.

Good that it's a pommie one and not an ozzy too.

I'm assuming it's a 1000cc?

What year is it? Later models had pop joints in place of the old rubber crosses, would be my preference.

[Edbear]

Been offered it for $2k on tardme

Tempting....

Thoughts?

-Indy

Why so cheap?


HOW the fuck can a beer brewed in Dorkland be BRITISH??? LOL next ya say the trecka and Enzeta are British :shifty:

The Trekka is Czheckoslavakiwian

[Indiana_Jones]

1100cc and 1975

-Indy

[Edbear]

1100cc and 1975

-Indy

I remember the road test on the 1100 auto then. They said it was "softer" than the old model and a bit slower but still fun to drive.

[blackdog]

1100cc and 1975

-Indy

Wow, don't come across many 1100's. It is the original engine?

so 1975 should be badged BL rather than Austin or Morris?

[Indiana_Jones]

Wow, don't come across many 1100's. It is the original engine?

so 1975 should be badged BL rather than Austin or Morris?

Yea it'd be BL.

I think he just got his auction title messed up

Edit: seems the offer is gone now, guess someone took it!

-Indy

[blackdog]

Yea it'd be BL.

I think he just got his auction title messed up

Edit: seems the offer is gone now, guess someone took it!

-Indy

Ratshit... Looked like you were onto something :cry:

[Indiana_Jones]

lol, ah well.

Think I'm gonan hold out for a 1100/1300 aye :) Wolseley one if I'm lucky.

There's a Riley 1100 on tardme at the moment :)

-Indy

[blackdog]

lol, ah well.

Think I'm gonan hold out for a 1100/1300 aye :) Wolseley one if I'm lucky.

There's a Riley 1100 on tardme at the moment :)

-Indy

I used to have an MG badged/grilled 1100. I don't think I've ever seen another one in NZ.

The Riley would be rare too these days.

[ducatilover]

Good that it's gone, those soap box front Minis are fucking ugly.
You need an early Cooper with all the Monte Carlo gear and stuff :love:

Get something a wee bit different dude, I known so many people who have owned the soap box ones.

[blackdog]

Good that it's gone, those soap box front Minis are fucking ugly.
You need an early Cooper with all the Monte Carlo gear and stuff :love:

Get something a wee bit different dude, I known so many people who have owned the soap box ones.

That would be a 'clubman' young man.

[ducatilover]

That would be a 'clubman' young man.

I won't call them that, it's too cool a name for such a heinous atrocity.
Morrie or GTFO :Police:

[Virago]

...Morrie or GTFO :Police:

I think I had a four-door GTFO at one stage...

[Indiana_Jones]

I prefer the round nose minis myself over the clubman, they made them along side the clubman....and well which one lasted till 2000 and which one didn't? lol

-Indy

[ducatilover]

I think I had a four-door GTFO at one stage... The GTFO is a rare and sought after beast....


I prefer the round nose minis myself over the clubman, they made them along side the clubman....and well which one lasted till 2000 and which one didn't? lol

-Indy I've got a copy of a BLC advert far the cuntman when it came out, something about "we have used all our best engineers and completely redesigned the Mini" :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Indiana_Jones]

lol didn't they just head hunt some guy from Ford and he just changed the front end?

-Indy

[ducatilover]

lol didn't they just head hunt some guy from Ford and he just changed the front end?

-Indy

If it's not a Capri who cares? :laugh:

[dangerous]

COOL... 5.3 and $2k :wings: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/xj/auction-399240727.htm

ps: that is the stock engine aye not a replant?

[Indiana_Jones]

Well I can't say as I'm not a Jag man myself, but the engine does have Jaguar on it lol

But if it's from another Jag, who knows?

-Indy

[Virago]

COOL... 5.3 and $2k :wings: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/xj/auction-399240727.htm

ps: that is the stock engine aye not a replant?

Yep, stock unit - one of the first XJ12s:


The XJ12 version was announced in July 1972, featuring simplified grille treatment, and powered by a 5.3 L V12 engine (coupled to a Borg Warner Model 12). The car as presented at that time was the world's only mass-produced 12-cylinder four-door car, and, with a top speed "around 140 mph" (225 km/h) as the "fastest full four-seater available in the world today".

Although it had, from the car's launch, been the manufacturer's intention that the XJ would take the twelve-cylinder engine, its installation was nonetheless a tight fit, and providing adequate cooling had evidently been a challenge for the engineers designing the installation. Bonnet/hood louvres such as those fitted on the recently introduced 12-cylinder E Type were rejected, but the XJ12 featured a complex "cross-flow" radiator divided into two separated horizontal sections and supported with coolant feeder tanks at each end: the engine fan was geared to rotate at 1¼ times the speed of the engine rpm, subject to a limiter which cut in at a (fan) speed of 1700 rpm. The fuel system incorporated a relief valve that returned fuel to the tank when pressure in the leads to the carburetters exceeded 1.5 psi in order to reduce the risk of vapour locks occurring at the engine's high operating temperature, while the car's battery, unusually, benefited from its own thermostatically controlled cooling fan.

3,235 of these first generation XJ12s were built...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_xj

It look like that particular one has been quite severely butchered over the years. Who knows though - may be recoverable, eh?

[Indiana_Jones]

Austin 1100 starting at $1200

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=397592654

-Indy

[ducatilover]

COOL... 5.3 and $2k :wings: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/xj/auction-399240727.htm

ps: that is the stock engine aye not a replant?
That could be a fun project, I bet it'll be interesting to work on :confused:


Austin 1100 starting at $1200

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=397592654

-Indy That could be a decent deal! Bit of rust in the doors, but that's easy to take care of. I wonder what the interior is like?

[Indiana_Jones]

Well from the pics it looks ok, and the owner claims so.

But photos don't always tell the truth lol.

It's got potential, but I think the Wolseley version is worth holding out for...

If no one bids and they make an offer I'll think it over.

-Indy

[ducatilover]

I'd snap it up if I wasn't frantically throwing money at my bike :laugh: It certainly does have potential and could keep you amused 'till you find a Wolseley model.

[Indiana_Jones]

I'd snap it up if I wasn't frantically throwing money at my bike :laugh: It certainly does have potential and could keep you amused 'till you find a Wolseley model.

lol food for thought

Would rather a 1300 also :D

-Indy

[ducatilover]

lol food for thought

Would rather a 1300 also :D

-Indy

Yeah fair enough. A 1300 estate!!!!! Like Basil Fawlty :love:

[ducatilover]

Indy..... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/other/riley/auction-399769856.htm

[Virago]

Indy..... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/other/riley/auction-399769856.htm

Yes...! :banana:

[ducatilover]

Wouldn't mind this either http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mini/morris/auction-400453587.htm

[dangerous]

Indy..... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/other/riley/auction-399769856.htm
that is rather bloody tidy, some how expect the price to rise, wonder what reserve is, and whats with starting a bid below reserve... never under stood that, might aswell go play snakes n ladders.

[YellowDog]

That mini looks like a very easy and most enjoyable project.

If only I could hide it without the wife finding out; as I know that she'd consider it WORSE than having an afair :yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400466120 shit yeah!

-Indy

[ducatilover]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400466120 shit yeah!

-Indy That's bloody nice! I'd definitely own that.


That mini looks like a very easy and most enjoyable project.

If only I could hide it without the wife finding out; as I know that she'd consider it WORSE than having an afair :yes:
That's easily fixed http://kinkydelight.com/kinky/rubber-gag-for-bobbi-starr.jpg


that is rather bloody tidy, some how expect the price to rise, wonder what reserve is, and whats with starting a bid below reserve... never under stood that, might aswell go plat snakes n ladders.
I was surprised I found it, will be interesting to see what it sells for. I don't see the point of having a different start price to reserve, what a waste of time!

[dangerous]

OHHHHHH, hubba HUBBA... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/vitesse/auction-400103462.htm

244939

[ducatilover]

That is very cool! Do want!

[Virago]

This thread is bad for my health...

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400577374

Very tidy 2500

Looks like it's been converted to TC, if it's not a stock TC

<img src="http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/63/184120463_full.jpg">

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Good door gaps for a 2500

[Virago]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400577374

Very tidy 2500...

Original colour, too - my dad had one - that exact same colour. We used it for a wedding car when I got married.

Sigh...

[dangerous]

Looks like it's been converted to TC, if it's not a stock TC Well... thats a tricky one cos, TC hubcaps (PI for 75 tho) and Grill, however that is for the 77 and the plastic on the boot between the lights and the vinel on the rear pillers are that of the 78 S or earler PI.
My guess it is a TC with later trimmings, thats what I did with mine, the S has mags, or it was a PI but with a 77 grill.

[YellowDog]

This thread is bad for my health...

CORRECTION: This thread is bad for OUR health.

I told the missus I might be popping upto Silverdale after work tomorrow to look at that Jag you liked the look of.

I'm not sure I really understand her contradictory reply:

"Do what the fark you like" followed by "you'll most likely be locked out when you get home."

I'm getting mixed signals here :shit:

[Indiana_Jones]

CORRECTION: This thread is bad for OUR health.

I told the missus I might be popping upto Silverdale after work tomorrow to look at that Jag you liked the look of.

I'm not sure I really understand her contradictory reply:

"Do what the fark you like" followed by "you'll most likely be locked out when you get home."

I'm getting mixed signals here :shit:

lol just showed that post to my mrs, she said take her out to dinner and never mention it again.

I say buy the fucking car and see what happens!

Easier to ask for forgiveness then permission!

-Indy

[YellowDog]

Good point:

Beg for Permission = NO

Beg for forgiveness = Eventually

Another slight complication is that we have just sold our house and will be moving to a much bigger one.

I'd better be quick :lol:

[Indiana_Jones]

Bro buy it. You can camp out on my floor for a few days while the heat goes away, I got a air bed.....pm me

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Buy it, there's room in my garage and beer in the fridge (If I get to go for a ride in it) :laugh:

[YellowDog]

If I don't now at least go and see the car, I'll lose too much face with you guys.

But if I do see it and it looks as good as the advert and drives like they generally do:

Will I have the will power NOT to logon to eBanking and take it there and then :no:

'cos that's what happened when I got back into biking. The part of 'NO' I don't understamnd is 'ALL OF IT' :laugh:

[dangerous]

Hey... you nutts that like jambing 8's into things... I have driven a hearald with a transit V4 in it, was a tad loose to drive, a factory 2L 6 that was silly the rear end takes time to catch the frount, it creaked n groned, BUT to put a V8 in one is outragious... I love it.

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[Indiana_Jones]

Indy wants ADO16!

-Indy

[scumdog]

Hey... you nutts that like jambing 8's into things... I have driven a hearald with a transit V4 in it, was a tad loose to drive, a factory 2L 6 that was silly the rear end takes time to catch the frount, it creaked n groned, BUT to put a V8 in one is outragious... I love it.

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Now THAT is the kind of car I'd have!:woohoo:

Had a couple of 'Geralds' - ya gotta kep an eye on the stub-axles as they can bend and crack.

Good thing is: You don't have to pull too much apart to replace them as they are held onto the upright on a taper and a large nut to keep it there.

But I defy anybody to find a car that will do a U-turn inless space.

[Indiana_Jones]

If I don't now at least go and see the car, I'll lose too much face with you guys.

But if I do see it and it looks as good as the advert and drives like they generally do:

Will I have the will power NOT to logon to eBanking and take it there and then :no:

'cos that's what happened when I got back into biking. The part of 'NO' I don't understamnd is 'ALL OF IT' :laugh:


......So you're seeing the fucking car, right?! :Punk:

-Indy

[Virago]

If I don't now at least go and see the car, I'll lose too much face with you guys.

But if I do see it and it looks as good as the advert and drives like they generally do:

Will I have the will power NOT to logon to eBanking and take it there and then :no:

'cos that's what happened when I got back into biking. The part of 'NO' I don't understamnd is 'ALL OF IT' :laugh:

Lol - I chickened out of looking at the gold one at Waimak Classic Cars when I was in Christhurch, because I didn't have "approval".

Show me how it's done...:laugh:

[ducatilover]

Hey... you nutts that like jambing 8's into things... I have driven a hearald with a transit V4 in it, was a tad loose to drive, a factory 2L 6 that was silly the rear end takes time to catch the frount, it creaked n groned, BUT to put a V8 in one is outragious... I love it.

Now that's my kind of toy!!! Looks nicely done too, is it a 3.5 or larger? :Punk:

If I don't now at least go and see the car, I'll lose too much face with you guys.

But if I do see it and it looks as good as the advert and drives like they generally do:

Will I have the will power NOT to logon to eBanking and take it there and then :no:

'cos that's what happened when I got back into biking. The part of 'NO' I don't understamnd is 'ALL OF IT' :laugh: Just do it, you know you need a Jaaaaaag

[Indiana_Jones]

Waiting for YD's update on his new Jag.....

I mean he could sleep in it should the worse happen

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Waiting for YD's update on his new Jag.....

I mean he could sleep in it should the worse happen

-Indy

I'm waiting too! I bet it has an electric fold out bed button somewhere.

[dangerous]

Now THAT is the kind of car I'd have!
Had a couple of 'Geralds' same a 1360 estate, 1200 coupe and a 1360 soft top... but thats a vetesse :wings: we both had 3.3 Victors too, odd our tasts differ when its bikes LOL

[scumdog]

same a 1360 estate, 1200 coupe and a 1360 soft top... but thats a vetesse :wings: we both had 3.3 Victors too, odd our tasts differ when its bikes LOL

Mainly in the direction we want the cylinders to face.

but we both like V-twins!:Punk:

[YellowDog]

Waiting for YD's update on his new Jag.....

I mean he could sleep in it should the worse happen

-Indy

Going up on Sunday afternoon.

Do you want to come too Indy?

[ducatilover]

Pick me up, I'm only 600km away.

[Indiana_Jones]

Going up on Sunday afternoon.

Do you want to come too Indy?

What time, got Guitar lesson at 11:30 till 12:00, free after that :D

-Indy

[Virago]

What time, got Guitar lesson at 11:30 till 12:00, free after that :D

-Indy

Jeez mate, you've suggested that YD choose the Jag over his wife, and you can't even miss a guitar lesson...? :laugh:

[jonbuoy]

Now THAT is the kind of car I'd have!:woohoo:

Had a couple of 'Geralds' - ya gotta kep an eye on the stub-axles as they can bend and crack.

Good thing is: You don't have to pull too much apart to replace them as they are held onto the upright on a taper and a large nut to keep it there.

But I defy anybody to find a car that will do a U-turn inless space.

Is there an easier car to work on?

[ducatilover]

Updates on the Jag!!!!!!

I'm still thinking of getting an XJ40 once I'm a bit more financially secure, cheap and they're very nice.

[Indiana_Jones]

Bugger, Riley is gone, the search continues

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Not fair at all :mellow:

[Indiana_Jones]

Ah well that's life. Not in a rush really, will wait for the right one.

-Indy

[ducatilover]

At least you have a sexual Triumph to ride :Punk:

[jonbuoy]

Heres some inter-breading porn for you Indy, BMC A series bottom end mated to BMW K Series bike cylinder head.

http://www.twinkam.co.uk/shop/article_SCE001.110/Complete-Twin-Kam-Engines.html?shop_param=cid%3D12%26aid%3DSCE001.11 0%26

[Kickaha]

Heres some inter-breading porn for you Indy, BMC A series bottom end mated to BMW K Series bike cylinder head.

Yeah a BMW wrecker in the UK sells all the bits to do it, either the twin cam 2 valve or twin cam 4 valve heads with fuel injectionhttp://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/Parts.php?T=5&NU=10&M=40&Ct=CA&SbCt=BA_10_40_CA_70

Had a Mini in our Blenheim branch last year the owner had built his own fuel injection system for

Another mate has a well modified Mini about 1400cc with nitrous

[Indiana_Jones]

John Cooper would cream himself lol

:D

-Indy

[YellowDog]

Updates on the Jag!!!!!!

I'm still thinking of getting an XJ40 once I'm a bit more financially secure, cheap and they're very nice.

For me, the XJ40 was first of the new reliable breed of Jags.

Regarding my potential XJ8, I seem to have cocked up quite badly. My wife was happy for me to talk about me popping out for a couple of hours tomorrow to take a casual look at a car I am not really interested in and might only consider making an offer if it was an outstanding example at a bargain price.

She played along for a while before reminding me that tomorrow is our sons 1st Birthday party :shit:

She seems to be letting me decide what I want to do and I therefore might need some female imput from your wives/partners?

Me thinks: It's a kids party for one year olds. It's not his actual birthday, that's on Tuesday (I'll be in Wellington). Surely I'd only get in the way with drinking beer and gorping at the other mums huge breasts. Surely the party will be better without me there as dads are not invited?

BUT I do get the feeling that if I was to prance around filling glasses and taking photographs (she said that might be nice), I'd score some serious (XJ8 worthy)brownie points?

I could be wrong, but I do get the feeling that if I am not there, she might get quite angry?

One option I have thought of is getting Indy round and stating that the entire mix-up is all his fault. After she's slapped him a few times, all will probably be OK (for me) and I'll owe Indy a L A R G E beer :yes:

As my wife isn't giving me any clear guidance, what should I do?

[Indiana_Jones]

Well it's not like you're gonna be out all day is it? :D

....I can take your place, I mean I have the same name and I'm a Pom too :D I'm sure she won't catch on

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

To put it simply, if she were your lovin' understanding wife then she'd let you go.

My mrs is very nice, she may not understand my love with shitty brit cars, but she knows it makes me happy so lets me do my thing. As long as the bills are paid she's happy lol

-Indy

[ducatilover]

One option I have thought of is getting Indy round and stating that the entire mix-up is all his fault. After she's slapped him a few times, all will probably be OK (for me) and I'll owe Indy a L A R G E beer :yes: This is a fantastic idea.


As my wife isn't giving me any clear guidance, what should I do?
I'm not the best at the whole women thing, I just speak my mind and they leave...My last missus said "me or the bike" and I asked for a "fuck off root". She was appalled and left. :confused: So...my advice wouldn't be good here....

But! I think, play the nice chap and definitely go to your son's birthday party (women get very ancy about that kind of thing)

So: birthday, beer, breasts, babies will possibly help get Jag.

If that doesn't work, kick her in the growler and buy it.


Rant over. :laugh:

[Virago]

For me, the XJ40 was first of the new reliable breed of Jags...

Yeah, the XJ40 was the first move away from the embarrassing grasp of British Leyland, and the contemptuously militant workforce which drove down quality and reliability at that time. The quality issues with the Series 3 XJ is the stuff of legend.

The restyling represented that move forward - shame the XJ40 was so fugly though. The '80s square box fashion meant there was little to differentiate the Jag from countless other square shit-boxes.

The X300 project couldn't come soon enough, with the return to the "classic" jag look.


...As my wife isn't giving me any clear guidance, what should I do?

Mate, no clear guidance is a serious warning sign - it's an unspoken line in the sand, and you're expected to know what to do, without being told.

Do the birthday party thing - the browny points will be worth it. :laugh:

[Indiana_Jones]

Guess it depends on how rare the car is....lol

-Indy

[Virago]

Incidentally, the issue with the Nikasil cylinder liners is mentioned on Wikipedia:


...Between 1998 and 2000, Jaguar used Nikasil cylinder liners which in markets with sulphur rich fuel combined with short trips, resulted in accelerated engine wear and eventually premature engine failure. From 2000 to 2003 the engines were fitted with conventional steel liners which solved the problem...

However, my Haynes Jaguar book suggests that the problem was limited to the 3.2L V8...? The one you're looking at is the 4.0L V8. :yes:

[ducatilover]

Yeah, the XJ40 was the first move away from the embarrassing grasp of British Leyland, and the contemptuously militant workforce which drove down quality and reliability at that time. The quality issues with the Series 3 XJ is the stuff of legend.

The restyling represented that move forward - shame the XJ40 was so fugly though. The '80s square box fashion meant there was little to differentiate the Jag from countless other square shit-boxes.

The X300 project couldn't come soon enough, with the return to the "classic" jag look.


This is all very true. I think the XJ40 is a good value car, Jag-ness for little coin and not as much worry as the SI-III XJ's.
But, as you said...they are not sexy in comparison to anything (Apart from the abominable new S-type)

[ducatilover]

Incidentally, the issue with the Nikasil cylinder liners is mentioned on Wikipedia:



However, my Haynes Jaguar book suggests that the problem was limited to the 3.2L V8...? The one you're looking at is the 4.0L V8. :yes:

Nikasil is only an issue with low quality-high sulfur petrols. Like cheap petrol in the states for example. Being BMW mad I've looked into this when looking at M60 V8's and M52 6cyls. I have not yet seen a Nikasil related problem in NZ. The later BMW M60/M52 went to Alusil, far better.

[Virago]

...But, as you said...they are not sexy in comparison to anything (Apart from the abominable new S-type)

Actually, I don't mind the S-Type, although I probably wouldn't buy one. The extreme case of retro-styling is either loved or hated.

I don't particular like the X-type, which is basically a Ford Mondeo with a different body shell and motor. Big Jag looks, which fail to deliver.

[Virago]

...I have not yet seen a Nikasil related problem in NZ...

Interesting - cheers. I understood that because the bulk of XJ8s are second-hand imports, to be aware of the potential issue.

[ducatilover]

Actually, I don't mind the S-Type, although I probably wouldn't buy one. The extreme case of retro-styling is either loved or hated.

I don't particular like the X-type, which is basically a Ford Mondeo with a different body shell and motor. Big Jag looks, which fail to deliver.

I can't stand the S-type, it leaves much to be desired. I've driven every model with the exception (excretion?) of the "normal" V8, the S-type R was nice, shit did it have berries under the bonnet. Wouldn't buy one...an BMW M5 will rip it in half and is a better car in every single way.

I liked the X-type until I drove one....they're pretty....but, not very great. There are far better cars to own. Like an X300....or XJR.

[ducatilover]

Interesting - cheers. I understood that because the bulk of XJ8s are second-hand imports, to be aware of the potential issue.

I've seen countless compression tests on Jap imported Nikasil BMW's and so far have not seen anything raising concern (except for one 328i M52Btu28 that blew a headgasket without the owner knowing :laugh: )

I've never tested anything Euro imported or Singapore though.

[dangerous]

So: birthday, beer, breasts, babies will possibly help get Jag.
NOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo... wee issue with the babies mate, It might get you the Jag but ya wont have it for long, LOL I had 9 bikes pre 2 sprogs, post sprogs and its now 2 bikes... wee fuckers. :laugh:

[slowpoke]

......Being BMW mad I've looked into this when looking at M60 V8's and M52 6cyls.

Aaaaaah, be still my beating heart....mad if ya don't like BMW's.

Just don't mention the war......


I'll still stick an 8 in anything. I don't care if the flatmates 300ZX or Soarer V8 will destroy something with a Rover 8 in it, I'll have a car I like, making noises I want on a reasonable budget :Punk::love:

It's funny because a BF Falcon is by no means fast or good handling. An E39 BMW 5 series Msport will run rings around one all day and is still of higher quality build, ride quality, brakes....gruniter....

But, a Morrie with tube front chassis and a 3.5 V8 still gives me a massive horn

Here's sumthin' close:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/auction-400601793.htm

[Bender]

Regards birthday party... It's a trap. :shit:

Women think birthdays are more important even than new shoes. If you are not there you will pay in manblood for decades. (Woman's logic: it's so bloody obvious he should know...)

Look at the Jag next weekend. Buyers for old Jags are not exactly thick on the ground and it'll still be there. Now can I come round and gorp at breasts and drink your beer thank you very much?

[Indiana_Jones]

So I still get to come to the party right? lol

As for Jags, the only one I'd wanna buy is an XK8. They're freakin' sweet!

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Just don't mention the war......



Here's sumthin' close:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/auction-400601793.htm:laugh: Fawlty towers! :Punk:

I need that! Why do I have no coin to buy it? :no: I would be the happiest chap. I should leave uni and start buying old bikes and cars :shifty:


NOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo... wee issue with the babies mate, It might get you the Jag but ya wont have it for long, LOL I had 9 bikes pre 2 sprogs, post sprogs and its now 2 bikes... wee fuckers. :laugh:

I'll keep that in mind, I was given a lecture a few weeks back on how babies will ruin anything to do with motorcycles in ones life:shit:

[dangerous]

I'll keep that in mind, I was given a lecture a few weeks back on how babies will ruin anything to do with motorcycles in ones life:shit:
Oh... I wouldent say that aye, our two at 2 and 3 love bikes, they ride around the block on the tank (footpath) with me, come to bike rallys, come out to watch the racing includes when we race aswell, in fact their mum raced with both of them. Sure racing on hold at the mo due to time and funding, but at the rate they are loving it they to will be riding meaning Ill be buying different sorta bikes... ohhh and they are even KBer's :confused:

It will only ruin bikes if ya let it.

[scumdog]

I was given a lecture a few weeks back on how babies will ruin anything to do with motorcycles in ones life:shit:

Only if you let them, it doesn't have to be like that.

It just takes time and patience:yes:

[ducatilover]

That's a relief!!!!!! :laugh:

[Indiana_Jones]

So YD.....did you check out the Jag?

My mrs is curious to know, and if so what were the results of said actions? :D :lol:

-Indy

[Virago]

Na, I reckon the 'Dog will have dutifully spent the day watching boobies kiddies having birthday fun...

[YellowDog]

So we had a great day lots of MIWLFs in the house and I got some great cleavage shots.

I worked my arse off preparing food and drinks. Had a great chat and some beers with the other Dads and all went well.

So after all the clearing up last night, I come out with “You know how I have always had nice cars that I’ve done up and looked after; and since we’ve been in New Zealand, I haven’t had one……..

We’ll there’s this Jag I am really keen on checking out AND………………..”

“Oh babe, you want a Jag. That’s nice. I guess you will be 50 next year. Of course you can get a Jag if that’s what you want………………. But have you considered how you would get it up the drive and into the garage?”

WTF!!!!!!! – She knows nothing about cars except for their colour and how many wheels they have.

Either she's very clever or just knows how to wind me up!

I will be getting an XJ8 – You wait and see.

Next project, moving house to one with a drive that won’t scuff the underside of a Jag :yes:

But how could I be sure the drive was OK if I didn't first have a Jag?

[ducatilover]

Aha! You get a Jag because you're going to be 50? I think, for research purposes you need it to try on the current drive way. If it does scrape, I (being of kind heart and stuff) will take it home and it can play with the Kawasaki and MR2 in my garage :shifty: I have a very flat driveway so there's no risk of your Jag getting scraped.

[scumdog]

Next project, moving house to one with a drive that won’t scuff the underside of a Jag :yes:

But how could I be sure the drive was OK if I didn't first have a Jag?

Some golden rules of mine for house buying:

1. Drive must be as flat and as straight as possible ('cos some of my cars are bloody low)
2. Drive must not lead directly out onto busy road (Duh!)
3. House must be as maintenance-free as possible (don't want to waste riding/driving/tinkering time, do we?
4. Section must not be (a) step or (b) in a gully. (Don't want to risk another Abbotsford)
5. Nowhere near the sea (salt air and cars/bikes:no:)
6. Not down on some flat flood-prone area.

Follow the above and be happiness-blessed.

[Edbear]

Some golden rules of mine for house buying:

1. Drive must be as flat and as straight as possible ('cos some of my cars are bloody low)
2. Drive must not lead directly out onto busy road (Duh!)
3. House must be as maintenance-free as possible (don't want to waste riding/driving/tinkering time, do we?
4. Section must not be (a) step or (b) in a gully. (Don't want to risk another Abbotsford)
5. Nowhere near the sea (salt air and cars/bikes:no:)
6. Not down on some flat flood-prone area.

Follow the above and be happiness-blessed.

Hmmmm... While not fitting too well with these criteria, we do have a large internal access double garage which can fit two cars and a motorbike, and total off-street parking can fit nine vehicles. We looked at downsizing but finding a smaller home with a big internal access garage and off-street parking for at least two vehicles is virtually impossible here!

[scumdog]

We looked at downsizing but finding a smaller home with a big garage and off-street parking for at least four vehicles!

I have editted your post to make it match my next mission.

[Edbear]

I have editted your post to make it match my next mission.

You may have better results in your area, but as we do have a nice house in a nice area and can't be built out and the upstairs flat is very handy, we've decided to stay where we are. The weekend emphasised the need for lots of space when the family plus friends all come for a BBQ... :Offtopic:

[Indiana_Jones]

I know YD's pain.

I am torn between woman and car. :confused:

-Indy

[YellowDog]

My wife has humoured me to the degree of telling me I can have just what I want, however in a demeaning and ageist manner.

AND at the same time she has managed get me to say, "now’s not the right time for a Jag."

I just find it hard to understand why I had failed to realise the steep drive access from the road would be a problem and it took my wife to point this out to me (without attempting to deny me what I wanted to buy).

We have a great garage. Room for 2 full sized cars and 2 bikes, plus a little workshop.

I feel like I have been screwed by myself!

I just never relaised I was such a ShagNasty :yes:

[ducatilover]

:D You have just been mind-fucked YD

[Virago]

My wife has humoured me to the degree of telling me I can have just what I want, however in a demeaning and ageist manner.

AND at the same time she has managed get me to say, "now’s not the right time for a Jag."

I just find it hard to understand why I had failed to realise the steep drive access from the road would be a problem and it took my wife to point this out to me (without attempting to deny me what I wanted to buy).

We have a great garage. Room for 2 full sized cars and 2 bikes, plus a little workshop.

I feel like I have been screwed by myself!

I just never relaised I was such a ShagNasty :yes:

Lol. Okay, my turn:

"Hey, you know that XJ8 I was drooling over? I posted a link on KB, and YellowDog was really keen on it too."

"Yeah?"

"Yeah. He's found a good one in Auckland though - if it checks out okay he's going to get it - he's got the blessings of his other half."

"Are you dropping hints again?"

"...Not really, still dreaming and scheming I suppose..."

"You've been promising me a new car for three years, in that time you've got yourself a new car, updated both work vehicles for the employees, and I'm still stuck in a scruffy old 1995 Bluebird."

With a grin, I give the perfect response - "Tell you what, I'll get the Jag, you can have my nice shiny Falcon."

"I don't want your Ford Falcon, I want a hatchback."

Damn...

"Ah, okay, I could sell the Falcon, eh? I can't afford that and the Jag, particularly with all the work fleet to maintain."

"So you would effectively be using the Jag for work? Have you given any thought to how it would look to clients, particularly as you're putting prices up across the board? How would you get on going to site meetings at construction sites?"

"I could borrow your hatchbatch, I suppose..."

The conversation ended there...

[Indiana_Jones]

My mrs said "It's got nothing to do with me, you know you cna buy whatever you want and I don't care what it is, as long as you're happy"

A trap?! :confused:

-Indy

[YellowDog]

:D You have just been mind-fucked YD

Well yes, fair comment.

But she just got lucky and it was just a one off.

I hope it was a one off and she isn't really smarter than she has been making out to be for the past six years :shit:

[ducatilover]

My mrs said "It's got nothing to do with me, you know you cna buy whatever you want and I don't care what it is, as long as you're happy"

A trap?! :confused:

-Indy

:shit: Can I have her when you're done?

[ducatilover]

I hope it was a one off and she isn't really smarter than she has been making out to be for the past six years :shit:

Trust me, they're all smart. Luckily I don't have one. Unfortunately I have no money to throw at silly cars and bikes. Should be back on track in a few weeks I hope.

[Indiana_Jones]

:shit: Can I have her when you're done?

Depends if you'll buy her an Audi she says lol

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Silly slow net making me double post!

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Should I bid? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401063974)


<img src="http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/24/181414024_full.jpg">

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Depends if you'll buy her an Audi she says lol

-Indy
Hmmmm......maybe?

Should I bid? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401063974)

-Indy
Only if you get it cheap haha an 1100/1300 is far cooler.

[scumdog]

My mrs said "It's got nothing to do with me, you know you cna buy whatever you want and I don't care what it is, as long as you're happy"

A trap?! :confused:

-Indy

Sounds like Mrs Scummie (normajeane), always up for the adventure of looking at/buying another car/bike.

So we're away to Shakeytown (Ch-CH) this weekend to look at a Yank oddity.

But then our youngest kid is 20 years old at University.....one of the perks of being old.

Lookout ya Canterbury Rabble!:wings::Punk::woohoo:

[Indiana_Jones]

Hmmmm......maybe?

Only if you get it cheap haha an 1100/1300 is far cooler.

At $250 atm lol

Agreed. 1100/1300 shits on the Allegro!

-Indy

[kiwifruit]

Should I bid? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401063974)

-Indy

:yes:
.

[ducatilover]

At $250 atm lol

Agreed. 1100/1300 shits on the Allegro!

-Indy

That's a bit steep isn't it? Leaking hydrospastic suspension.

At least I now know where that shit I did this morning went....

[Indiana_Jones]

That's a bit steep isn't it? Leaking hydrospastic suspension.

At least I now know where that shit I did this morning went....

Yeah, that's the one thing I don't like about it, the Hydrogas system. A bit more complex then the Hydroelastic system, which I like alot :)

-Indy

[scumdog]

At $250 atm lol

Agreed. 1100/1300 shits on the Allegro!

-Indy

Pfft, I bid on it for more than that already!:stupid:

[Indiana_Jones]

are you acutally bidding on it? lol

-Indy

[scumdog]

are you acutally bidding on it? lol

-Indy

Why not???

'Tis more fun than just drinking....:drinkup::woohoo:

And notice how the wipers go the 'wrong-way' like an Anglia?

[ducatilover]

Yeah, that's the one thing I don't like about it, the Hydrogas system. A bit more complex then the Hydroelastic system, which I like alot :)

-Indy Ah the Hydro-spaz. Not a fan of it....


Why not???

'Tis more fun than just drinking....:drinkup::woohoo:

I got out bid!!!

[Indiana_Jones]

lol bidding war over an allegro!

Bid $30,000 :laugh:

-Indy

[slowpoke]

Should I bid? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401063974)

-Indy

How should I put this succinctly: NO!

There are some cars that are so uncool they are cool, but as something that regularly polls as one of the worst British cars of all time, this is in another league of badness altogether.

[YellowDog]

How should I put this succinctly: NO!

There are some cars that are so uncool they are cool, but as something that regularly polls as one of the worst British cars of all time, this is in another league of badness altogether.

Agreed that the Agro is not a cool car. Not even a classic. But having known an owner who raved about it and praised it to the hilt, they can't have been all that bad.

Just after that earlier worthless pile of crap era, there was the MG Montego Turbo. Also a worthless pile of crap, but faarkin fast and well worth the gallons of epoxy resin to stop it rattling. Well worth a punt :yes:

[scumdog]

How should I put this succinctly: NO!

There are some cars that are so uncool they are cool, but as something that regularly polls as one of the worst British cars of all time, this is in another league of badness altogether.

Pfft, ya ain't putting me off THAT easily!


Ya want it for yourself eh!

[YellowDog]

This one's the newer shape: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/alegro/auction-400614221.htm
(me thinks?)

[ducatilover]

This one's the newer shape: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/austin/alegro/auction-400614221.htm
(me thinks?)

That's disgusting, I have had STD's nicer than that :laugh:

[scumdog]

That's disgusting, I have had STD's nicer than that :laugh:


But I bet THEY ain't 'an up and coming classic??:laugh:

[ducatilover]

But I bet THEY ain't 'an up and coming classic??:laugh:

They were certainly more interesting......

[Indiana_Jones]

Could be worth a laugh I reckon :)

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Lol I'm starting to actually like it!

-Indy

[ducatilover]

You're a sick man Indy.


I'd own one, just to have something to complain about :laugh:

[Indiana_Jones]

Maybe YD can lower his bar and get an allegro :lol:

-Indy

[Virago]

Should I bid? (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401063974)

-Indy

Awesome. Outrageously idiosyncratic BL machinery at its peak of imperfection. I want it.

Just drive it everywhere in reverse - they were actually more aerodynamic going backwards...:laugh:

[YellowDog]

Maybe YD can lower his bar and get an allegro :lol:

-Indy

Having lived, purchased, and suffered through such an era, unless said pile of crap is an absolute classic; like a Stag or a 'B' or a TR6 - I would rather eat raw sewage :sick:

My bar is firmly set at luxury, comfort, and style.

This may well be a post midlife crisis age thing :yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

Well the one thing that scares me the most is the stupid hydrogas system, all respect to Dr. Alex Moulton (who is still alive by the way!), the Hydrolastic system is sweet :)

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

They see me rollin'.....

<img src="http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/MrSonic/Bad%20Cars/206Allegro.jpg">

-Indy

[jim.cox]

This looks good to me - Rolls Royce powered and a soft-top...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/daimler/auction-344311107.htm

[Indiana_Jones]

Awesome :D

-Indy

[nadroj]

This one crabs a bit!

[Indiana_Jones]

lol why....just why!

-Indy

[jim.cox]

This one crabs a bit!

Reminds me of an Ailing Bastard (Aveling Barford) 4wheel steer grader I used to drive.

[dangerous]

This one crabs a bit!The Chch Wizard has a VW beetle with two frount ends, looks odd as driving away from ya.

[ducatilover]

Did you win the dick-su....um Princess Indy?

[Indiana_Jones]

lol didn't bid on it

Wasn't gonna pay $500 for a Allegro that has no battery and needs a pump

1100/1300 is what Indy really wants :)

but the Allgero has grown on me a bit and wouldn't rule one out.

Got that one YD posted on my watchlist. I might part with $500/600 for it

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Thank God for that haha.

You need an 1100/1300, they look so cool and are actually cool....

[Indiana_Jones]

Rover SD1....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/rover/sd1/auction-399550045.htm

-Indy

[ducatilover]

That's some serious BL right there :)

[Indiana_Jones]

Sigh sucks waiting for the right car to come along, but hopefully shall be worth the effort!

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Raise the bar! Dolomite Sprint. I want one so bad.

[Virago]

Rover SD1....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/rover/sd1/auction-399550045.htm

-Indy

If I was going for a Rover, it would have to be a P5.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/rover/p5/auction-399997262.htm

A good original one would be hard to find these days...

[ducatilover]

If I was going for a Rover, it would have to be a P5.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/rover/p5/auction-399997262.htm

A good original one would be hard to find these days...

P5B is my personal favourite, well, equal with the P6B. I'm glad I got to own a P6, lovely car.

[dangerous]

Raise the bar! Dolomite Sprint. I want one so bad.cool aye, 120hp DOHC I think? well the early engines were 5 layered cassings.



If I was going for a Rover, it would have to be a P5.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/rover/p5/auction-399997262.htm

A good original one would be hard to find these days...what is the modlewith the lowered roof and a 3.5 in it?



EDIT de edity de edit answered my own question, seems the Sprint engine at the end is a hemi type head in a slant 4, I asume the TR7 engine... I was thinking of the sabrina engine...

245444 245445

[ducatilover]

cool aye, 120hp DOHC I think? well the early engines were 5 layered cassings.




They were a quick wee car, alloys...look neat....I love them :love:

[ducatilover]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-399485467.htm I'd hit that


and this http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/other/auction-394634304.htm

[Virago]

...what is the modlewith the lowered roof and a 3.5 in it?...

Ah yeah, the coupe option, available from the Mark II model onwards:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_P5

Yeah, they were nice - actually looked quite sporty.

[Virago]

This has the ultimate drool factor:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/auction-377954101.htm

KB member XKnuts has one (hence his name).

[ducatilover]

This has the ultimate drool factor:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/auction-377954101.htm

KB member XKnuts has one (hence his name).

My pants just got tight.

[slowpoke]

Raise the bar! Dolomite Sprint. I want one so bad.

I tell ya what there has been a lot of setting the bar extremely low and consistently failing to achieve it in this thread...kinda like my work performance assessments....but finally a sweet lil' unit has been mentioned. :niceone:

[YellowDog]

This has the ultimate drool factor:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/jaguar/auction-377954101.htm

KB member XKnuts has one (hence his name).

Pure class, but I need a compromise. I would not ever drive a classic XK down to the dairy for bread and milk, so it just wouldn't be for me (even if I did have that kind of cash available.)

We already have an offer on the house. Taking a look at uprated garaging and driveways this evening :yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

Sweet!

Get an XK8!

-Indy

[Edbear]

I tell ya what there has been a lot of setting the bar extremely low and consistently failing to achieve it in this thread...kinda like my work performance assessments....but finally a sweet lil' unit has been mentioned. :niceone:

The Sprint is a fabulous sleeper! A very sweet car indeed! Not much needing upgrading to be a reliable, fast modern car! :yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

The problem with the Dolly Spint is actually getting your hands on one over here, they are far and few between :(

-Indy

[Edbear]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-400435189.htm

[Indiana_Jones]

My old man had a Triumph 1300 FWD.....TC he is quick to remind lol

Of course this was back in the UK

They're pretty bloody rare now

-Indy

[scumdog]

My old man had a Triumph 1300 FWD.....TC he is quick to remind lol

Of course this was back in the UK

They're pretty bloody rare now

-Indy

Are they just a version of the Toledo??

(cruelly referred to as 'Truimph Toilet' by the rest of us when my mate had one - he use to call it the Triumph Torpedo!!!)

[Indiana_Jones]

I think it was the other way round, I think Triumph made the 1300 FWD following BMCs lead with the ADO16.

And according to Wiki, in 1970 they re-engineered it into a RWD, making the Toledo

-Indy

[scumdog]

I think it was the other way round, I think Triumph made the 1300 FWD following BMCs lead with the ADO16.

And according to Wiki, in 1970 they re-engineered it into a RWD, making the Toledo

-Indy


Ah, mrs scummies mum had a FWD Triumph back in '74 than later my mate had the Toilet.

[Big Dave]

48 pages on Morris shitboxes.

[Indiana_Jones]

48 pages on Morris shitboxes.

Come to join the fun? :D

-Indy

[Big Dave]

Gawd no. I had an EH Holden back then. A 149 with three on the tree was enough to skool a Morrie.

[ducatilover]

I tell ya what there has been a lot of setting the bar extremely low and consistently failing to achieve it in this thread...kinda like my work performance assessments....but finally a sweet lil' unit has been mentioned. :niceone: Heh, I secretly have some taste....maybe.


The problem with the Dolly Spint is actually getting your hands on one over here, they are far and few between :(

-Indy
I haven't seen a decent one for a year or two now :(

Gawd no. I had an EH Holden back then. A 149 with three on the tree was enough to skool a Morrie.
Meh, an XJ6 or P6 V8 would school the fuck out of that.

In between Lucas failures and oil top ups.

[Indiana_Jones]

it's when it doesn't leak oil you should be worried...

-Indy

[ducatilover]

it's when it doesn't leak oil you should be worried...

-Indy

I was always worried about the P6, it never leaked any oil. How the fuck does a British car retain oil? It was strange.

[Big Dave]

Heh, I secretly have some taste....maybe.


I haven't seen a decent one for a year or two now :(

Meh, an XJ6 or P6 V8 would school the fuck out of that.

In between Lucas failures and oil top ups.

I had an XJ6 Van Den Plas as a company car once. I'd be inclined to bet on the EH if the race was over 500km.

That aluminium V8 was a peach of a hot rod motor though.

[ducatilover]

I had an XJ6 Van Den Plas as a company car once. I'd be inclined to bet on the EH if the race was over 500km.

That aluminium V8 was a peach of a hot rod motor though.

500km....an XJ6 won't get that far on one sump of oil will it?

I like the 3.5, it's cheap and little, makes pretty noises. Like an asian hooker.

[Indiana_Jones]

3.5L isn't little lol

....so wanna help me get a V8 in an Allegro? :D

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Morris Oxford? yay or nay?

Nice looknig one down in Morrinsville.

-Indy

[Big Dave]

Would be better if it was at Morrisville.

[Indiana_Jones]

But that's not as rude ;)

-Indy

[ducatilover]

3.5L isn't little lol

....so wanna help me get a V8 in an Allegro? :D

-Indy

3.5 is little :innocent:

My mates 400ci Transam was adequate in terms of displacement (made a whopping 180hp!!!!! same as my tiny 3.5 did standard)

Yup, bring it down, I just got more cutting wheels for the grinder yesterday :) Got a welder? Bring one down, I can do my subframe at the same time :Punk:

[Indiana_Jones]

The Allgero interests me, but also scares the shit out of me lol

I'm just tempted to grab it and see what happens! lol

-Indy

[ducatilover]

What could possibly go wrong :D :rofl:

[Big Dave]

What could possibly go wrong :D :rofl:

We know he can't go insane.

[Indiana_Jones]

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-Indy

[scumdog]

-Indy

A 3.5 + 5-speed in a Marina would be more 'do-able' by miles than fitting same donk to am Allegro.

Get a six-cylinder Marina and it's even easier - (As if any engine swap is 'easy'.)

[ducatilover]

A 3.5 + 5-speed in a Marina would be more 'do-able' by miles than fitting same donk to am Allegro.

Get a six-cylinder Marina and it's even easier - (As if any engine swap is 'easy'.)

I'm in to that idea. A Toledo would be even sillier though :yes:

[dangerous]

Get a six-cylinder Marina and it's even easier - (As if any engine swap is 'easy'.)thats right they did a 2.6/6 didnt they? only the sound gave it away.

[Edbear]

thats right they did a 2.6/6 didnt they? only the sound gave it away.

And when they tried to go around a corner... :laugh: Too much weight from that really heavy motor, too far forward! Fabulous for doing burnouts, though...

We had a 1980 Marina, the last of the model with the 1700 Alloy head motor and it was a nice car to travel in, very comfortable, torquey and economical, lots of room.

[Indiana_Jones]

Oh yeah? my old man was always saying how much gas he had to put in his father in laws Marina

-Indy

[YellowDog]

And when they tried to go around a corner... :laugh: Too much weight from that really heavy motor, too far forward! Fabulous for doing burnouts, though...

We had a 1980 Marina, the last of the model with the 1700 Alloy head motor and it was a nice car to travel in, very comfortable, torquey and economical, lots of room.

Hey, I had the same model. In 1981 I bought a 1979 Marina 1700, which was the last shape just before the ITAL, being a slightly modded Marina. It was the newest car I had ever owned and I was stoked with it.

Good engine (for a 1700). I advanced the timing and put a larger pipe and free flow air filter on mine. Unfortunately I didn't have enough cash to uprate the brakes or shocks. It didn't corner very well at all :no: But it was a good car :yes:

[Indiana_Jones]

So did you look at that Jag after the party YD?

My mrs is curious to know.....

-Indy

[YellowDog]

So did you look at that Jag after the party YD?

My mrs is curious to know.....

-Indy

If I knew she wanted to come, I would have invited her instead of you :yes:

No I didn't go. My missus is happy for me to get a Jag, as she believes that I am now old enough to carry off the image thing, but we both agree that our drive won't take a Jag. It looks like we are now moving house to a place with a Jag friendly drive. But having enough money for a Jag after the move is another story :shit:

[Bender]

I was always worried about the P6, it never leaked any oil. How the fuck does a British car retain oil? It was strange.

My P6B made up for it. Little issue with the rear main crankshaft seal. Great car though.

[avgas]

...
-Indy
Its funny I had a chat with a "boffin" a while ago about this. He reckoned the Allegro was a fantastic car for the time and place.
My answer was:
Toyota Corona or Colt GTO or Ford Cortina or Vauxhall Chevette or......

[Edbear]

Hey, I had the same model. In 1981 I bought a 1979 Marina 1700, which was the last shape just before the ITAL, being a slightly modded Marina. It was the newest car I had ever owned and I was stoked with it.

Good engine (for a 1700). I advanced the timing and put a larger pipe and free flow air filter on mine. Unfortunately I didn't have enough cash to uprate the brakes or shocks. It didn't corner very well at all :no: But it was a good car :yes:

Our one's shocks were still good, but they really benefitted from aftermarket. The originals were supposed to be twin arm but they fitted single arm instead and they wore prematurely. My brakes were very good as we found out one day when a kid ran out in front of us at an intersection... :shit:

I really liked the 1700 motor, I recall travelling up the old Albany hill one day and a 2lt Mk.3 Cortina couldn't pull away from us! No, it wasn't a sports car, it was a sedate family car but ours was in very good condition and we really liked it.

[Indiana_Jones]

Its funny I had a chat with a "boffin" a while ago about this. He reckoned the Allegro was a fantastic car for the time and place.
My answer was:
Toyota Corona or Colt GTO or Ford Cortina or Vauxhall Chevette or......

It just missed the mark I reckon, had the build quality been good then things might of been different. The styling wasn't bad, not out of place for the time (ignoring the 'wheel' lol), used a proven power plant from the ADO16, granted it should of been something a bit newer, but they used the A series engine till 2000!

Anyways should be lookin' at an ADO16 this weekend :)

-Indy

[ducatilover]

Have you owned a V8 yet Indy? :innocent:

[Indiana_Jones]

Nope, don't intend to any time soon.

I'm not a fan of 'big' cars, anything over 2L is too big for me

-Indy

[Virago]

It's alright, Indy, you're young still - one day you'll grow up to be an old fart like DL...