MotoGP 2013

[Crasherfromwayback]

.He stopped on the main straight and did a burnout!

Yeah that's not too bright if peeps are still circulating!

[roogazza]

Darren Heenan I think his name is. He's a pretty hard charger.
Is he ? I got that off an American site I visit, just assumed he was a yank.
MM does look like the 'Joker ' tho huh ?

[merv]

Darren Heenan I think his name is. He's a pretty hard charger.

Yes its Darren Heeman with an 'm' from Nelson. I enjoyed his antics at Wanganui and even at the Wellington Street races in 1997.

One story about him here http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/sport/780583/Record-field-for-popular-port-races

... and another with a pic here http://www.new-zealand-pictures.com/2010/01/port-nelson-street-races/

Crasher, you're a Harley salesman - do you tell the buyers stuff like this "It's the heaviest race bike out there, which gives me a better jump off the start and means I can brake later into the corner."

No wonder Pedrosa didn't get the jump on George on Sunday, he's too light.

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM does look like the 'Joker ' tho huh ?

I mentioned that fact ages ago mate.


[SIZE=2]Yes its Darren Heeman with an 'm' from Nelson. I enjoyed his antics at Wanganui and even at the Wellington Street races in 1997.

Crasher, you're a Harley salesman - do you tell the buyers stuff like this[SIZE=3] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Arial]"It's the heaviest race bike out there, which gives me a better jump off the start and means I can brake later into the corner."

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I raced against him at Wanganui in maybe 1995? When was the Welly Street Race after all?

No. But I tell my customers...that if they want to chase down Japanese Sports bikes on a big block Harley...they need to use a Softail. Preferably an FXST. It's what I use.

[Drew]

No. But I tell my customers...that if they want to chase down Japanese Sports bikes on a big block Harley...they need to use a Softail. Preferably an FXST. It's what I use.Just done a quick search. Is the superglide sport not offered anymore Pete? I always thought they were cool, and as good as you're likely to get performance wise on a big block from the factory.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just done a quick search. Is the superglide sport not offered anymore Pete? I always thought they were cool, and as good as you're likely to get performance wise on a big block from the factory.

Nope. The FXDF (Fatbob) is the closest thing avail now. But nah. A Dyna handles better to a point (most of 'em are steeper in the steering head etc)...but past that point, a Softail pisses all over them. Don't forget that a Dyna's engine is mounted on rubber blocks to isolate the engines vibration...and the swing arm is only mounted through the rear of the transmission...not the frame. So when you push 'em hard...the swing arm just rocks the engine on it's mounts. A Softail's engine is bolted directly to the frame, and the swing arm goes through the transmission AND the frame. Much stiffera. Feel about 60 kg's lighter because of that too.

[pritch]

There is currently a transfer window open in the MCN Fantasy League. I wasn't going to bother with transfers, just pick a team and watch what happens. This year, as was the case last year though, one of the BSB riders I had picked wasn't even racing. John Laverty had decided to work for his brother in MotoGP. So I replaced him with somebody I've never heard of, but who is hopefully actually turning up on the day.

At this point I was allowed two more changes so I selected MM to replace #46 which neccessitated another change: Bautista for Bradl.
There being a limit to how much you can "spend".

If previous history is any indication, being selected for my team will bring about an immediate decline in the performance level of the riders involved. So if MM's carreer suddenly and unaccountably nosedives y'all will know the cause. :whistle:

[macka77]

I'm gonna chip in here coz i've been officially accepted as a race official at Phillip Island:wings:

Gonna go fill my pockets with carbon fibre pieces :shifty:

you can probably fill your bags of yzf m1 carbon fibre bits after a motogp weekend

[GD66]

Mostly black, with bright green highlights ?

[Oscar]

you can probably fill your bags of yzf m1 carbon fibre bits after a motogp weekend

We were the last team outta the pits in 1990 and there was untold stuff left behind.
The wierdest was about 25 unopened 5l cans of Elf gas, packed in straw in individual wooden boxes.

[merv]

I raced against him at Wanganui in maybe 1995? When was the Welly Street Race after all?



Welly street race was a one off in 1997. Heeman was a spectacle. Andrew Stroud was there on a Fireblade (he wasn't long back from his Formula Extreme wins in USA), and seemed rather subdued for him, being beaten by Tony Rees and John Hepburn on GSXR750 SRAD's if I remember rightly. Other stars were Len Perry still going at the time, Hugh Anderson in classics and Rodney O'Connor was still racing the supermono then.

I posted a few pics for ya on Welly Street races way back in 2003 here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/1449-Call-for-Ideas-to-Revive-Road-Racing-in-NZ?p=19228#post19228

Back on topic though, of course Mick Doohan was still World Champ then.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Welly street race was a one off in 1997. Heeman was a spectacle. Andrew Stroud was there on a Fireblade (he wasn't long back from his Formula Extreme wins in USA), and seemed rather subdued for him, being beaten by Tony Rees and John Hepburn on GSXR750 SRAD's if I remember rightly. Other stars were Len Perry still going at the time, Hugh Anderson in classics and Rodney O'Connor was still racing the supermono then.

I posted a few pics for ya on Welly Street races way back in 2003 here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/1449-Call-for-Ideas-to-Revive-Road-Racing-in-NZ?p=19228#post19228

Back on topic though, of course Mick Doohan was still World Champ then.

Yeah I raced my 883 there. Tossed it away a huge fashion. It was an awesome track to ride. For a wee bit anyway.

[bistard]

Welly street race was a one off in 1997. Heeman was a spectacle. Andrew Stroud was there on a Fireblade (he wasn't long back from his Formula Extreme wins in USA), and seemed rather subdued for him, being beaten by Tony Rees and John Hepburn on GSXR750 SRAD's if I remember rightly. Other stars were Len Perry still going at the time, Hugh Anderson in classics and Rodney O'Connor was still racing the supermono then.

I posted a few pics for ya on Welly Street races way back in 2003 here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/1449-Call-for-Ideas-to-Revive-Road-Racing-in-NZ?p=19228#post19228

Back on topic though, of course Mick Doohan was still World Champ then.

Yes Merv, I remember it well, I was one of the organisers, what a nightmare, if you look at one of your phots, the one with bikes on the start grid, the bike two in from the bottom, is my ZXR400 with a large Kevin Grey riding it

[tail_end_charlie]

I see that Dean Adams from SuperbikePlanet (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Aug/130827bradsmith.htm) thinks rather highly of Bradley Smith. To be honest I think that the kid isn't doing too bad, and he is definately showing improvement. If he finishes 5th or better in at least one race this year I would consider it a success.





Crasher to refute in 3, 2, 1 ........

[Drew]

Nope. The FXDF (Fatbob) is the closest thing avail now. But nah. A Dyna handles better to a point (most of 'em are steeper in the steering head etc)...but past that point, a Softail pisses all over them. Don't forget that a Dyna's engine is mounted on rubber blocks to isolate the engines vibration...and the swing arm is only mounted through the rear of the transmission...not the frame. So when you push 'em hard...the swing arm just rocks the engine on it's mounts. A Softail's engine is bolted directly to the frame, and the swing arm goes through the transmission AND the frame. Much stiffera. Feel about 60 kg's lighter because of that too.Come to think of it, I remember Jimmy telling me that the 'dressers' are where it's at for punting once or twice.

My information retention really is fucken shithouse.

Anyhoo.

C'MON PEDRO YA LITTLE FUCKER, PULL FINGER!!!

[roogazza]

For my fellow armchair experts ! From Sir David Emmett.
http://www.motomatters.com/report/2013/08/29/2013_silverstone_motogp_preview_of_home_.html :banana::banana::laugh:

[Dogboy900]

Just watched the BRNO race. Marquez seems so comfortable sliding that Honda it is unbelievable. I was expecting the rear to come round to join the front a few times, but he just kept doing it.
Bautista also was getting his bike very loose trying to get ahead of Rossi. He doesn't look quite as in control as Marquez though, but a great ride from him again.

I felt sorry for Jorge after that blistering start but I guess thats racing. I actually really want to see Pedrosa win just to see if he will actually look happy after the race. A great race on his part but I really wish he would show a bit of personality!

[actungbaby]

Dunno. May find out one day. And as I've said before...he prob didn't have to ride 10/10ths to beat up on the Gibernau's of the world. Was a very diff story once Stoner and Lorenzo turned up. Now MM as well. Are we goona blame his age...or the tyres or what Oscar? Maybe it's time to finally admit that there are actually people out there that are simply faster that he is? Actually nah...that's not your style!

Omg his best before date has come and gone it happens to them all . no way he going be as fast as mm

Give the bike to somone new take up lawn bowls hehe

[Crasherfromwayback]

Still a 14 year age dif.
?

Did ya know Troy Bayliss won a GP at the age of 37? What are Rossi's chances of that?

[Oscar]

Did ya know Troy Bayliss won a GP at the age of 37? What are Rossi's chances of that?

Pretty good, I'd say.
One good rain shower should do the trick...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pretty good, I'd say.
One good rain shower should do the trick...

Wouldn't be that surprised to see it rain this round. Again.

[jasonu]

Yeah that's not too bright if peeps are still circulating!

Yeah Bubba Shobert did that once and (I think) Kevin Magee ran straight over the top of him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah Bubba Shobert did that once and (I think) Kevin Magee ran straight over the top of him.

Other way round Bro. Laguna Seca.

[jasonu]

Other way round Bro. Laguna Seca.

Yep you're right. I am glad just to have got the names right...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep you're right. I am glad just to have got the names right...

Was a pretty good effort for sure. Was a long time ago mate. Cost Magee most of his mates too.

[badlieutenant]

Was a pretty good effort for sure. Was a long time ago mate. Cost Magee most of his mates too.
pretty sad all round really. http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2005/Jul/1989usgpb.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

pretty sad all round really. http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2005/Jul/1989usgpb.htm

Yeah not cool.

[roogazza]

Yeah not cool.

Magee suffered brain damage himself and retired,did he not ? I was living in Aust at that time and it was touch and go for him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Magee suffered brain damage himself and retired,did he not ? I was living in Aust at that time and it was touch and go him.

Nah don't think so. He's just an Aussie mate. He raced again after that. Munted his leg from memory. Was Bubba that got the brain injury.

[roogazza]

Nah don't think so. He's just an Aussie mate. He raced again after that. Munted his leg from memory. Was Bubba that got the brain injury.

Oh ok, memory must be failing me. I know the other Aussie (name avoids me at the mo) who rode Honda and then Suzuki got his toes chopped off in the chain.

[roogazza]

Here you are Crasher, had a bit of a dig around. Appears he crashed a year later at Laguna Seca and got the head injury.
https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CEgQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.visordown.com%2Finterviews%2F where-are-they-now-kevin-magee%2F2461.html&ei=BUkgUrDUO4b4kAXFsoCIBA&usg=AFQjCNEW-OOGctqy0voCPiC9aZf_XixVMA&sig2=vPcEuMrZaeNArXxWmvazOg

God still can't remember the other Aussie,
Christ at last, Daryl Beatie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! chopped his toes off.

[badlieutenant]

yes and yes sorta to both of you :D
Taken from that link>>>>>>>>> http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2005/Jul/1989usgpb.htm

"Kevin Magee stood in the middle of it all, fat tears streaming down his face; he tried to walk, hobbled by his broken ankle. He would miss three Grand Prixs because of the injury. "

"A year after the incident Shobert told me that he had no feelings of resentment for Magee and what had happened, in fact quite opposite. He said that in the racing life some risks are accepted no matter how unfair they might seem. Magee was torn apart by the incident and it was clear afterwards that he regretted what happened.

Be that as it may, some members of the American contingent in Grand Prix didn't let the incident simply drift away. Kevin Magee and Eddie Lawson were involved in several on-track incidents that season and after one such episode, Lawson says he made his feelings clear on Magee's ability to control a racing motorcycle, and his judgment in doing so. Lawson said Magee accused him of really being angry over the Shobert incident. "I told him no, 'it's just that you're an idiot.""

"Schwantz didn't actually have time to cultivate a close relationship with Kevin Magee in 1990. Magee crashed at Laguna Seca in essentially the same spot where the collision took place in 1989, suffering head injuries that put him out for the season. "

[merv]

Darryl Beattie is the other Aussie you are trying to remember.

[badlieutenant]

actually found a bit of the racing and acccident http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znFu6GxZz7I
Has the commentator got mike doohan mixed up with mick Doohan ?
The keep saying Magee is in heaps of pain but it looks more like the realization that you just performed a monumental fuck up :/
The battle between Eddie Lawson and Magee is pretty kewl, but wayne lapping everyone up to 7th place? 25 secs (i think) in front of schwantz ? holy shit.
These guys still look fast to me :D

Oh bums, found a spectators view of the accident. There isnt much smoke. But he has stopped (maybe for a sec ?) before the accident. If only he had pulled over a bit to do it :/............Reading Schoberts bio he was an up and coming star ugliness here >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIt3bLNb9Y8

Opps back to motogp (present time)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh ok, memory must be failing me. I know the other Aussie (name avoids me at the mo) who rode Honda and then Suzuki got his toes chopped off in the chain.

Doug Polen also lost most of his pinkies in the rear sprocket/chain. Think he was testing at Daytona at the time.

[roogazza]

Darryl Beattie is the other Aussie you are trying to remember.
Cheers merv, the old brain must've kicked just before you posted ?Your spelling of his name looks better than mine too.

& yes Crasher Doug Polen was another talent from that era in both WSB and GP. Was real good on the 888 Duc.

[speights_bud]

you can probably fill your bags of yzf m1 carbon fibre bits after a motogp weekend

I'd love a piece of repsol orange from 93!, but not at the riders expense of course. I'll be taking whatever I can get :-). If I can find something worthwhile it'll be getting glass case treatment :-)

Been kicking myself since COTA for not chucking 50 bucks on MM for the win

[Crasherfromwayback]

Magee suffered brain damage himself and retired,did he not ? I was living in Aust at that time and it was touch and go for him.


Darryl Beattie is the other Aussie you are trying to remember.

Is it Beattie you're thinking of re the head injury Roo? He bounced on his scone once too often.

[T.W.R]

Is it Beattie you're thinking of re the head injury Roo? He bounced on his scone once too often.

1990 Laguna Seca Magee crashed and received head injurys; wasn't the same after that :msn-wink: Bubba Shobert nailed him in the warm down lap the previous year at the same met that finished Shobert's career :niceone:

[GD66]

He received some pretty nasty head injuries in a pre-season testing crash in 1996 and was never the same : slowed down AND started crashing a lot. Career petered out from there.

Now working for Ten as a slow commentator.

[roogazza]

He received some pretty nasty head injuries in a pre-season testing crash in 1996 and was never the same : slowed down AND started crashing a lot. Career petered out from there.
Now working for Ten as a slow commentator.
Cheers Glen,Ok, didn't know that, only the toes, but he rode after losing them.
Have heard him doing commentaries.
Saw him get some good results on both Honda and Suzuki.
We don't hear a lot of the sacrifices/injuries of racers chasing dreams.

[GD66]

Yes, his win at Hockenheim was a ripper, also got the better of Mick at Suzuka one year. I think the ugly toes incident was also in a pre-season crash on the Marlboro Yam. Had a good ride at The Island in 1989, qualified well and finished 12th on a production Honda in the 250 race and his career was up and away.
Another one of those "what might have been if..." careers. But he was pretty quick for a while there.

[carbonhed]

How does Marquez keep escaping the inevitable consequences of riding a MotoGP bike so far over the ragged edge... just jaw dropping.

[Drew]

How does Marquez keep escaping the inevitable consequences of riding a MotoGP bike so far over the ragged edge... just jaw dropping.He's a bloody freak aye. I was gobsmacked when I first saw how much hotter he can hit a turn and still get the bike stopped and not run wide.

[Crasherfromwayback]

How does Marquez keep escaping the inevitable consequences of riding a MotoGP bike so far over the ragged edge... just jaw dropping.

And in qual last night...seems like whatever he has to do to better Lorenzo's time he just pulls it out of his hat. Unreal. 1.3 secs under the lap record.


http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Aug/130831rydernotes.htm

[carbonhed]

And in qual last night...seems like whatever he has to do to better Lorenzo's time he just pulls it out of his hat. Unreal. 1.3 secs under the lap record.


http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Aug/130831rydernotes.htm

See Ryders talking about that slide at Woodcote. How often do you see something that big and that fast come back?

[Crasherfromwayback]

See Ryders talking about that slide at Woodcote. How often do you see something that big and that fast come back?

Yeah man. I watched qual live...and he was well fucking sideways everwhere! There's no doubt at all that the guy is a fucking freak. Pity there's not ten of them out there! Can you imagine it?

[carbonhed]

Yeah man. I watched qual live...and he was well fucking sideways everwhere! There's no doubt at all that the guy is a fucking freak. Pity there's not ten of them out there! Can you imagine it?

Moto2 at warp factor 9?

[tail_end_charlie]

I gonna be betting that ol' Cal has a good day at the race. He always seems to do the best when he's pissed and got something to fight against that can be seen as holding him back (battered at bruised from Saturday's crashes).

Oh yeah, and MM....................................fuck man. He's have a grand 'ol time of it, and has driven Lorenzo to his wits end. After the race at Brno, and after qual at Silverstone you could see it in Lorenzo's face, he's walking around going in disbelief at what MM is pulling off.

[BMWST?]

Sommet are replaying fp4 and qualifying right now

sent from the tag

[steveyb]

MM simply has pure belief and supreme confidence in his abilities and in the bike. He simply 'knows' that whatever he wants to do can be done and he and his bike can do it.
That slide at Woodcote, I mean how many other bikes would have just tied themselves in knots and tossed themselves all over the salad?
That Honda is just something else, really it is.
And that is not to mention that he has bought his Moto3/Moto2 weight and balance control to MotoGP and now the bikes are capable of handling this style. Not so long ago they could not handle that.
For the polar opposites of style and success on the new gen MotoGP bikes, just look closely at MM and Edwards. Colins style is so ten years ago. He won't get any closer to the front riders on any bike nowadays.

[pete376403]

Sommet are replaying fp4 and qualifying right now

sent from the tag

Whats with the riders taking a foot of the peg coming into the corner?

[puddytat]

Well, that looks like a game changer.....Crutchlow trashes another bike & MM nearly taking him & thr marshalls seconds later.The wrist looks worrying.

[Brett]

Well, that looks like a game changer.....Crutchlow trashes another bike & MM nearly taking him & thr marshalls seconds later.The wrist looks worrying.

Yeah, not good.

[carbonhed]

Jesus! Good job the marshals were on the ball.

[BMWST?]

Well, that looks like a game changer.....Crutchlow trashes another bike & MM nearly taking him & thr marshalls seconds later.The wrist looks worrying.

In the warm up?

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[puddytat]

In the warm up?

sent from the tag

Yep.:yes: ....

[300weatherby]

Don't go writing off George and the Midget yet, MM cannot ride that loose and keep getting away with it forever, every race done without the big crash increases the chances of it happening next time.

Would really like to see MM on the Ducati, he is very Stoner in attitude and ride style, he might be able to make the thing work where others (apart from Stoner obviously) have not.

Want to see the Yam in front tonight.

[CHOPPA]

Don't go writing off George and the Midget yet, MM cannot ride that loose and keep getting away with it forever, every race done without the big crash increases the chances of it happening next time.

Would really like to see MM on the Ducati, he is very Stoner in attitude and ride style, he might be able to make the thing work where others (apart from Stoner obviously) have not.

Want to see the Yam in front tonight.

Broken collarbone and dislocated shoulder apparently...

[haydes55]

In other news I'm loving this moto2 race!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Broken collarbone and dislocated shoulder apparently...

Lorenzo obviously cursed him! He was going on about he and Pedro having shoulder injuries whilst MM didn't. Even stevens now.

[T.W.R]

The Barry Sheene tribute was good to see after the moto2 :Punk: can't believe it's 10yrs :no:

lol MM topping the fuel and struggling to get the bike started before pitlane closed :rolleyes: that could've been interesting

[ducatilover]

Marquez never fails to impress the hell out of me.
Same can be said for George though, fucker is a machine :2thumbsup a properly epic race

[tail_end_charlie]

For the polar opposites of style and success on the new gen MotoGP bikes, just look closely at MM and Edwards. Colins style is so ten years ago. He won't get any closer to the front riders on any bike nowadays.

I have noticed that, and Nicky Hayden looks very similar to Colin, though to a slightly less degree. But then again, none of the other guys on the CRT bikes look anything like MM, JL, DP. Its very interesting to see the Moto2 style riding coming through to MotoGP, and will be great to see MM, Pol, Scott, Brad and Nakagami riding like that with the MotoGP

Speaking of Nicky, did anyone catch what happened to Dovi? It's very, very rare for Dovi to crash out, so I was wondering if Brad or Nicky gave him a bit of a push?

[pritch]

Brilliant! And to think that there was concern that the field would spread out because of the long lap and the high speeds.

[carbonhed]

Awesome! Don't often leap up and shout at the computer :laugh:

[Asher]

O:Oi:

Speaking of Nicky, did anyone catch what happened to Dovi? It's very, very rare for Dovi to crash out, so I was wondering if Brad or Nicky gave him a bit of a push?

If I can recall correctly (I was pretty tired) he lost the front, smith was close behind him and sat up to advoid him so Hayden sneaked by.

While I know I was watching a good race am I the only one who found it a bit boring still?
MM, JL battling and Pedrobot occasionally making an appearance. The front 3 are always so fast they might as well be the only 3 in the race. I can only hope that next year with the rule changes and moto2 faces that the racing won't be so predictable...

[gixerracer]

O:Oi:

If I can recall correctly (I was pretty tired) he lost the front, smith was close behind him and sat up to advoid him so Hayden sneaked by.

While I know I was watching a good race am I the only one who found it a bit boring still?
MM, JL battling and Pedrobot occasionally making an appearance. The front 3 are always so fast they might as well be the only 3 in the race. I can only hope that next year with the rule changes and moto2 faces that the racing won't be so predictable...

Yep I would say your the only one. It was a freakn fantastic race one of the better ones in a while as was Q

[Crasherfromwayback]

.

While I know I was watching a good race am I the only one who found it a bit boring still?
...

Must've seen a diff race to me.

[Asher]

Probably didnt help that it was on so late so i quite sleepy while watching it, but what i meant was that this season has basically become a race between 3 people, the other guys are just so far behind. I would rather watch a race where there are lots of guys gunning for 1st throughout the race (like moto2 was), not just the final laps.

[Kendog]

That race was AWESOME!!!!

How good is MM. Was that better than JL racing after his surgery? Not only was MM racing, but he almost won, beating JL who was racing a great race.
I really wanted MM to make it 5 in a row, but good for the championship having JL get the win and clearly motivated again.

[husaberg]

Still a 14 year age dif.
Compare a 20 year old Vale to a 20 year old MM.
Who has more titles?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cecotto

what about Johnny. Sure he peaked a little earlier........ on a non works bike and all......

[puddytat]

Due to the link I was watchin which just happened to be in Bomanian or something I couldnt understand what status MM was in till he showed up on the starting Grid.......
And I still dont know to what extent he was injured so please enlighten me 'caust that was one hell of a race.
Moto2 was awesum too I reckon.
There were some excellent slowmo bits of coverage where in Moto2 & GP where there were several bikes sliding into & outtov corners.
Poetry in motion pure.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Due to the link I was watchin which just happened to be in Bomanian or something I couldnt understand what status MM was in till he showed up on the starting Grid.......
And I still dont know to what extent he was injured so please enlighten me 'caust that was one hell of a race.
.

He had a huge off and dislocated his shoulder in morning warm up. Got it popped back in and can now add hard arse to his resume.

[GD66]

O:Oi:
While I know I was watching a good race am I the only one who found it a bit boring still?






Yep ! You sure are.

[300weatherby]

He had a huge off and dislocated his shoulder in morning warm up. Got it popped back in and can now add hard arse to his resume.

MM the super hero because he popped his collarbone, had it put back and then raced......... News flash for those who have not been there: it hurts a lot, and when it goes back, not so much, maybe not so strong for a day or two, but it does not take epic heroism to function!

Be quite nice to have access to the same pharmacy though, never have to feel anything but, ahhhhhhhhhh any time you stub your toe.

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM the super hero because he popped his collarbone, had it put back and then raced......... News flash for those who have not been there: it hurts a lot, and when it goes back, not so much, maybe not so strong for a day or two, but it does not take epic heroism to function!

Be quite nice to have access to the same pharmacy though, never have to feel anything but, ahhhhhhhhhh any time you stub your toe.

News flash. Every single time it's different depending on what other damage is done sorry. Ask me how I know this. But yeah...you're obviously well hard. And not sure I used the term epic heroism either. But hey...

Ps:. Landing on ya shoulder on concrete at mega high speeds happens to hurt as well. A LOT. So it's hardly just the dislocation you've gotta deal with eh.

[ducatilover]

Ask me how I know this.

How do you know this, Pete?


:mellow::innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

How do you know this, Pete?


:mellow::innocent:

Lol. I think you know the answer.

[BMWST?]

A couple of things i have noticed re MM.His transisitions from side to side are noticeably quicker than everyone else.Not so last night but its not surprising.Stoner started it i reckon but a lot of the newer riders are hanging of more and getting forward.MM almost seems to have his head up by the front forks!

[Brett]

Lol. I think you know the answer.

The Mrs bitch slapped you and you fell over on concrete Crasher?

Loved watching that race...Jorge showed some mature class with the way he ultimately fought MM off, but MM blows me away every race he does now. Yes I know that a dislocated shoulder *can* be quite tolerable once popped back in, but this isn't always the case, and more importantly, dealing with the mind screw of a quick crash like that but not then getting shy and crash-worried for the main race is reasonably impressive...especially for a rookie. (Remember he has experienced this before in Moto2). The guys is still incredibly green, with very limited experience...he has an incredible future potentially. At the end of the race, they showed a slow motion shot of him sliding both wheels in sideways towards the apex while chasing JL...was absolute poetry.

[awa355]

The main race just about to start now on Sommet.

[Reckless]

Bloody great race!! Moto 2 and Moto GP!!

Looks like they have given MM a little smack on the hand

http://superbike-news.co.uk/wordpress/index.php/Motorcycle-News/decision-of-the-race-direction-notification-of-sanction-for-marc-marquez

[Mental Trousers]

Fuck all. Should've penalised him 2 places in the race instead.

Great race though. JL is starting to ride like he hasn't ridden before. It's a good thing.

[ecko_nzed]

Bloody great race!! Moto 2 and Moto GP!!

Looks like they have given MM a little smack on the hand

http://superbike-news.co.uk/wordpress/index.php/Motorcycle-News/decision-of-the-race-direction-notification-of-sanction-for-marc-marquez

It'll go well with the smack on the shoulder he gave himself.

How many penalty points does he have to rack up before he gets a more serious punishment?

I could look it up, but I'm essentially lazy. ;)

[jasonu]

It'll go well with the smack on the shoulder he gave himself.

How many penalty points does he have to rack up before he gets a more serious punishment?

I could look it up, but I'm essentially lazy. ;)

Here ya go...

Following the race, it was announced that Marquez has been given two Penalty Points under the new system due to not slowing down under the yellow flags in the morning Warm-Up. This also happened to be the moment that saw him crash at the same turn as Cal Crutchlow. Not to be confused with Championship Points, the penalty system was introduced in 2013, under which Up to 10 penalty points can be imposed, with sanctions applied at certain thresholds. Any rider reaching four penalty points starts the next race from the back of the grid, while seven points lead to a pit lane start and 10 points a race ban.

[Kendog]

Do any of them slow down for yellows?
I would love to see him start a race from the back of the grid.

[Drew]

I was reminded last night as I watched the race, of Jorge and Rossi. Rossi knew Lorenzo was the new talent coming through from very early on, but in that first season he taught the young fella a couple lessons in race craft.

That's exactly how it looked last night. Jorge did a fantastic job of managing the race, and at about one third distance I could swear he was slowing the pace to let Pedro catch up and give MM some grief.

Then on the last lap he was defending the line that MM took anyway, slowing them both down enough to give it a squirt between the two apex' of the double apex left.

It was fucken genius! Next year, I don't think anyone is gonna see which way MM went though.

[tail_end_charlie]

I gonna be betting that ol' Cal has a good day at the race. He always seems to do the best when he's pissed and got something to fight against that can be seen as holding him back (battered at bruised from Saturday's crashes).

Buggered if I make any more predictions about this shit, I'm either always wrong or jinx 'em.



Also, an interesting little artical written by Dean Adams from SuperbikePlanet (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Aug/13082269and4.htm) on Nicky Hayden during his dirt tracking days. One thing I wanted to comment on about the 'incident' at Indy, if you watch the video you can see that Nicky does a much better job jumping the curb than Dovi does. Nicky must have kept the power on while Dovi chopped the throttle.

[Badjelly]

Also, an interesting little artical written by Dean Adams from SuperbikePlanet (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Aug/13082269and4.htm) on Nicky Hayden during his dirt tracking days. One thing I wanted to comment on about the 'incident' at Indy, if you watch the video you can see that Nicky does a much better job jumping the curb than Dovi does. Nicky must have kept the power on while Dovi chopped the throttle.

Nicky had a bit more warning that he would have to jump the kerb than Dovi did, Nicky being the cause of it and all... :shifty:

[tail_end_charlie]

An interesting part of David Emmett's (http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2013/09/02/2013_silverstone_motogp_sunday_round_up_.html) post on the Silverstone round.

"Crutchlow suffered serious abrasions to his right lower arm, with his leathers tearing open and gravel and dirt getting in to rip up his skin. It is the fifth time this year that his leathers have let him down, though of course, if he didn't crash, his leathers would not be subject to such abuse. That is no excuse, however: motorcycle racing leathers should not burst at the seams, and riders should not be picking gravel out of their arms with a wire brush."

I wonder if this last incident will lead CC to drop Spidi leathers and move to another brand? (Dainese and AlpineStars seem to be the most popular choices; couple of people in Spidi, Revit, Arlen Ness, Berik and some others I'm not familar with.)

Especially considering that AlpineStars (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/marquez+crash+telemetry+at+silverstone) have released the data from MM crash. The report more or less saying that the airbag was successfully deployed before his big shoulder impact, and he ended up with a dislocated shoulder. The don't actually insinuate that the result was only a dislocated collerbone because of the airbag, but in light of the recent events with JL and DP, one could be alowed to connect the dots. But then again, JL and DP also have the airbag suit, yes?

[Crasherfromwayback]

An interesting part of David Emmett's (http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2013/09/02/2013_silverstone_motogp_sunday_round_up_.html) post on the Silverstone round.

"Crutchlow suffered serious abrasions to his right lower arm, with his leathers tearing open and gravel and dirt getting in to rip up his skin. It is the fifth time this year that his leathers have let him down, though of course, if he didn't crash, his leathers would not be subject to such abuse. That is no excuse, however: motorcycle racing leathers should not burst at the seams, and riders should not be picking gravel out of their arms with a wire brush."



Do we know for a fact his leathers burst open? I biffed my 883 away at 200 clicks going into the sweeper at Manfield years ago...the shear impact on my arm hitting the deck at that speed twisted my leathers so fast round my arm they ripped all the skin off...and then as I went through the gravel trap ended up with an arm full of gravel and stones. But the leather never tore or *rode up* my arm. If they have burst open (esp if that's AGAIN)...they're fucking shit though for sure.

[Trudes]

Buggered if I make any more predictions about this shit, I'm either always wrong or jinx 'em.



Also, an interesting little artical written by Dean Adams from SuperbikePlanet (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Aug/13082269and4.htm) on Nicky Hayden during his dirt tracking days. One thing I wanted to comment on about the 'incident' at Indy, if you watch the video you can see that Nicky does a much better job jumping the curb than Dovi does. Nicky must have kept the power on while Dovi chopped the throttle.

Funny article, loved it :)

[merv]

Funny article, loved it :)

Perhaps you could encourage your boyfriend Nicky to retire to NZ when he's finished like Fred Merkel did, though if he lived in Porirua instead of up Taupo way he could come around for dinner.

[Kornholio]

Pity there's not ten of them out there! Can you imagine it?

His younger brother got his first podium in Moto 2 the race before.... so there's another one comin... and I would say that the age both of them are they are bound to end up in GP battling it out...

[Trudes]

Perhaps you could encourage your boyfriend Nicky to retire to NZ when he's finished like Fred Merkel did, though if he lived in Porirua instead of up Taupo way he could come around for dinner.

Ha! I get the impression, it's just a guess though, that the LAST place a good ol' boy like Nicky who has plenty of $$ would want to retire to would be P'town! Although if he ever came to NZ for a holiday he would be welcome to come for dinner, hell, I'd even make dessert. ;)

[merv]

His younger brother got his first podium in Moto 2 the race before.... so there's another one comin... and I would say that the age both of them are they are bound to end up in GP battling it out...

Moto 3 - he hasn't moved up to Moto 2 - yet!

[tail_end_charlie]

Do we know for a fact his leathers burst open? I biffed my 883 away at 200 clicks going into the sweeper at Manfield years ago...the shear impact on my arm hitting the deck at that speed twisted my leathers so fast round my arm they ripped all the skin off...and then as I went through the gravel trap ended up with an arm full of gravel and stones. But the leather never tore or *rode up* my arm. If they have burst open (esp if that's AGAIN)...they're fucking shit though for sure.

Friction burn? Yeah, I've heard of that happening to people whose leathers are a little too loose fitting. Plus sliding along asphalt like he did (both at Silverstone and Sachsenring) there is a good chance the the heat from sliding will burn your arm with out actaully having a whole in the leathers. But I'm sure that I heard Cal say in one of his interviews that the leathers opened up and allowed gravel and shit tear into his arm for the second time this season. I can't figure out which interview that was while at work, so I'll look closer this evening to find it. When I heard that, my first impression was that it was definitely not a glowing endorsment of his leathers manufacture.

[roogazza]

Friction burn? Yeah, I've heard of that happening to people whose leathers are a little too loose fitting. Plus sliding along asphalt like he did (both at Silverstone and Sachsenring) there is a good chance the the heat from sliding will burn your arm with out actaully having a whole in the leathers.

Got one of those on my left wrist, have worn my 'Watch' on my right since the early 70's.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Friction burn? But I'm sure that I heard Cal say in one of his interviews that the leathers opened up and allowed gravel and shit tear into his arm for the second time this season. I can't figure out which interview that was while at work, so I'll look closer this evening to find it. When I heard that, my first impression was that it was definitely not a glowing endorsment of his leathers manufacture.

Mine wasn't a friction burn as such. Just tore the skin right off me. And if that's the case...I'd be telling them to stick their leathers up their ass.

[Drew]

Mine wasn't a friction burn as such. Just tore the skin right off me. And if that's the case...I'd be telling them to stick their leathers up their ass.

It's called 'degloving'. Nasty business, can happen heaps of different ways. People often look confused by their grazes and intact leathers.

My leathers have always been tight...real tight. Not many people have crashed as often as I in a single suit, and I never got a scratch or had them repaired. To be fair though, that Shift suit has been retired....Because I got fatter.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's called 'degloving'. Nasty business, can happen heaps of different ways. er.

Yeah it wasn't overly pleasant at the time. Think my skeleton suit may give your total number of crashes in one suit a good go though!

[Drew]

Yeah it wasn't overly pleasant at the time. Think my skeleton suit may give your total number of crashes in one suit a good go though!
I did say not many, I thought of saying "except for Pete" even. But aside from you telling us how much you chrashed, I've only ever seen the one at Wanganui...Maybe a picture from Gracefield?

[Crasherfromwayback]

...Maybe a picture from Gracefield?

Won't bore the other peeps here. Next time we have a beer I'll bore you though.

[White trash]

I did say not many, I thought of saying "except for Pete" even. But aside from you telling us how much you chrashed, I've only ever seen the one at Wanganui...Maybe a picture from Gracefield?

I witnessed first hand the beauty highside on the 883 at the Wellington streetrace. Fucken minter that was.

[DidJit]

Nice lil’ article (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/oped/trackside-tuesday-place-home/) by Scott Jones over on Asphalt & Rubber. Something we Kiwis can identify with methinks...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I witnessed first hand the beauty highside on the 883 at the Wellington streetrace. Fucken minter that was.

Lol. Yeah that could've ended badly!

[pritch]

My leathers have always been tight...real tight.

Well, my leather jacket is a lot tighter than it used to be, thanks for allowing me to see that as an advantage.

On the down side it's the same brand CC wears.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well, my leather jacket is a lot tighter than it used to be, thanks for allowing me to see that as an advantage.

On the down side it's the same brand CC wears.

Lol. Happens to us all. Yeah hate to say this...but most off the rack *named* brand stuff is pretty average comapred to taylor made shit by someone that know's what they're doing.

[ecko_nzed]

I biffed my 883 away

Best thing to do with them ;)

[roogazza]

Nice lil’ article (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/oped/trackside-tuesday-place-home/) by Scott Jones over on Asphalt & Rubber. Something we Kiwis can identify with methinks...

Crashers' are not associated with winners though !
CC must have a reputation as a crasher by now surely.
To win, you must first finish. :lol::lol:

[DidJit]

I'm gonna jump ahead of Crasher and mention... Stoner.

[Drew]

Best thing to do with them ;)The class was pretty well contested, and the 883 was a very cheap way to go racing.

Skirtster sales never looked better than the years they were raced!

I dunno how some of the guys got away with borrowing their wife's bike to race though.

[jasonu]

The class was pretty well contested, and the 883 was a very cheap way to go racing.

Skirtster sales never looked better than the years they were raced!

I dunno how some of the guys got away with borrowing their wife's bike to race though.

I remember Ant Young doing well in that class. IIRC the prize money was a lot better than in other national classes.

[Drew]

I remember Ant Young doing well in that class. IIRC the prize money was a lot better than in other national classes.
Prize money back then was just better I think. But I imagine that Harley NZ were putting up decent figures to entice those perhaps not so inclined normally.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I remember Ant Young doing well in that class. IIRC the prize money was a lot better than in other national classes.

Was $500.00 for a race win, $400.00 for 2nd, $300.00 for 3rd and $100.00 back to 10th place. Was way more than any other class was paying back then...hence a lot of the top punters getting involved. The late Robert Holden, Andrew Rangi, Brett Richmond, Ant Young, Bruce Anstey, Simon Turner, John Hepburn, Wayne Clarke etc etc. Was hard work for sure. Fucking good fun though.

[Kornholio]

Moto 3 - he hasn't moved up to Moto 2 - yet!

Ha true... I was drunk at the time :wacko:

[merv]

Ha true... I was drunk at the time :wacko:

They could have done with three Marquez brothers, one in each class huh!

[roogazza]

I'm gonna jump ahead of Crasher and mention... Stoner.

'Crasher' was a crasher ! :killingme

[Drew]

'Crasher' was a crasher ! :killingmeIt is easier to learn to keep a bike upright, than it is to learn to go fast.

[husaberg]

Was $500.00 for a race win, $400.00 for 2nd, $300.00 for 3rd and $100.00 back to 10th place. Was way more than any other class was paying back then...hence a lot of the top punters getting involved. The late Robert Holden, Andrew Rangi, Brett Richmond, Ant Young, Bruce Anstey, Simon Turner, John Hepburn, Wayne Clarke etc etc. Was hard work for sure. Fucking good fun though.

What about the original Glenn Williams i seem to remember him too......

[Crasherfromwayback]

It is easier to learn to keep a bike upright, than it is to learn to go fast.

Lol. I'm still trying to learn that bit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What about the original Glenn Williams i seem to remember him too......

Nah he'd fucked out well before the advent of 883 Twin Sports I fink mate.

[Drew]

Nah he'd fucked out well before the advent of 883 Twin Sports I fink mate.

I think he was fried before then too. I only have a patchy story of him from my/his old sponsors.

[husaberg]

Nah he'd fucked out well before the advent of 883 Twin Sports I fink mate.

Maybe... but i had a feeling he was punting the 883's after the MZ's at the SOT

[Dogboy900]

Just watched the race tonight. Must say I enjoyed that! those top three had a great race. I do wonder if Pedrosa has enough of a killer instinct to take the lead over Jorge or Marquez. He looked to have speed to spare catching up but not able to close the deal once he got there.
Some good battles further down the order as well. I enjoyed watching Rossi and Bradl battle there for a while and of course Bautista and Rossi. For some reason watching Bautista being chased by Rossi reminds me of a rabbit running from a greyhound :D

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Maybe... but i had a feeling he was punting the 883's after the MZ's at the SOT

See post # 2624 I think.

[Rcktfsh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPQtcjZevvI
Maybe... but i had a feeling he was punting the 883's after the MZ's at the SOT

Pretty sure he did, had a bloody long & successful career in an era that had a lot of good riders. Check out the save at 1 min 24 secs in this vid.

[roogazza]

'Crasher' was a crasher ! :killingme


It is easier to learn to keep a bike upright, than it is to learn to go fast.

Actually I shouldn't say that, when i was younger that was a derogatory label.

[tail_end_charlie]

It is easier to learn to keep a bike upright, than it is to learn to go fast.

Fuck........well, there go my delusions of grandeur in racing............:no:

[Crasherfromwayback]

[Pretty sure he did, had a bloody long & successful career in an era that had a lot of good riders. .

I only missed the first and last years of 883 Twinsport mate...and Glen Williams was never a pilot whilst I was there.

[roogazza]

Back on topic : Lorenzo's view of the heir apparent.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130904a93.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

Back on topic : Lorenzo's view of the heir apparent.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130904a93.htm

Yeah he's a hard arse alright.

[jasonu]

Was $500.00 for a race win, $400.00 for 2nd, $300.00 for 3rd and $100.00 back to 10th place. Was way more than any other class was paying back then...hence a lot of the top punters getting involved. The late Robert Holden, Andrew Rangi, Brett Richmond, Ant Young, Bruce Anstey, Simon Turner, John Hepburn, Wayne Clarke etc etc. Was hard work for sure. Fucking good fun though.

Wasn't there a series bonus as well? $10K or summat?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wasn't there a series bonus as well? $10K or summat?

Yeah there was. Can't remember how much it was though. I know in Aust it was a new 883 I think from mem.

[Rcktfsh]

I only missed the first and last years of 883 Twinsport mate...and Glen Williams was never a pilot whilst I was there.

He raced them for 1 season must have been the first, sponsored by Shaft.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He raced them for 1 season must have been the first, sponsored by Shaft.

Ah yep. Bet he was fast on the fucking things too then. Didn't seem to matter what he rode.

[roogazza]

He raced them for 1 season must have been the first, sponsored by Shaft.

Rcktfsh, what ever happened to Glen the 1st ?? Like the rest, carry on with a job ? Grow old.

[Drew]

Rcktfsh, what ever happened to Glen the 1st ?? Like the rest, carry on with a job ? Grow old.Found the wondrous world of A class drugs....Fucked out.

[roogazza]

Found the wondrous world of A class drugs....Fucked out.
Really ? That's really sad if you mean for good ??

[roogazza]

Twenty years ago !! For Rainey fans.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130906wr60.htm

[nudemetalz]

Section F Row N Seat 36...

What's that you ask?

Oh,.. that's my grandstand seat by the start/finish line at Phillip Island for 18-20 October....

Me excited !!!!!!!!

[Drew]

Really ? That's really sad if you mean for good ??Dunno about now, but the guys who sponsored Vicki and I had Glen as a rider way back when.


Section F Row N Seat 36...

What's that you ask?

Oh,.. that's my grandstand seat by the start/finish line at Phillip Island for 18-20 October....

Me excited !!!!!!!!Not the best place to sit for seeing the action. But you can see the big screen at least.

[nudemetalz]

Yeah but listening and watching the start is apparently a spectacle and a half.

[Drew]

Yeah but listening and watching the start is apparently a spectacle and a half.
By that time, the noise just pissed me off. It's unbelievable how loud the bikes are...And how bad for your ears it is not to have hearing protection. Take earplugs.

[steveyb]

By that time, the noise just pissed me off. It's unbelievable how loud the bikes are...And how bad for your ears it is not to have hearing protection. Take earplugs.

And then try it at the circuits like Estoril/Sepang with paddock buildings on one side and huge stands on the other.
WOW!!

[Badjelly]

Yeah but listening and watching the start is apparently a spectacle and a half.

Mrs Jelly & I had main-straight grandstand seats in 2005. Never saw a start from there because after a session or 2 of practice we decided we were better off watching from the circuit. Watched race from...that's a secret...oh OK, northern end between turns 11 & 12. In 2008 we had a grandstand seat at Lukey Heights. That was better, but again we watched the race from trackside. Next time we won't bother booking a grandstand seat. If you're watching from trackside it does help to stay at the campground and get in when the gates open.

I must admit seeing, hearing and feeling Max Biaggi's Honda RCV 990 go down the straight past the grandstand was pretty impressive. But if you like watching bikes go around corners...

[roogazza]

Many years of spending time and a fair bit of dosh going to GPs I must say I prefer to watch trackside as apposed to being in a Stand.Love to wander around to get the angles.
But if you like the 'Stands' fine, I don't know if I'd do it from the Start/Finish area though ? (make sure you have ear bungs)
I prefer viewing from corner entry.

[speights_bud]

My Cuz got his letter from Phillip Island to say he's been allocated to the "scrutineering" team for Nationals (support classes) at the P.I GP. Bastard coz mine didn't turn up today and now i have to wait until Monday to find out what team I'm in!

[speights_bud]

By that time, the noise just pissed me off. It's unbelievable how loud the bikes are...And how bad for your ears it is not to have hearing protection. Take earplugs.
Yep I have to say the noise got really old by the end of the weekend for me too.
Hence the reason I now have 2 sets of custom plugs, one for work and one for the Classics & GP :woohoo:


Section F Row N Seat 36...

What's that you ask?

Oh,.. that's my grandstand seat by the start/finish line at Phillip Island for 18-20 October....

Me excited !!!!!!!!

I sat there a few years ago (2010), spent the first 2 days watching all the bikes and riders from all around the track, then watched the circus, starts and big screen from the stand seat on race day.
Try brown nose a Good Bastard who is in a Yamaha corporate area or similar and you might even get a pit Lane walk through pass. (Cheers Drew:niceone:)

Also be prepared at the end of the MotoGP race. Once the first bike cross the finish line get your shit down to the security guards at the front of the stands ASAP. Coz when the last bike crosses the line the guard will give you the nod and that's when you make a run for the Pit wall! Be Careful though the tyre wall is a bit higher than expected when jumping down! Was worth it to sing Happy Birthday to Stoner on the podium!

[McWild]

All following links are to a Spanish website but Google does a pretty fair translation job if you're keen to check them out.

Yamaha are finally getting a seamless gearbox this Friday at Misano (http://motocuatro.com/index.php/motogp/6435-2013-09-10-16-27-16) says this Spanish article. Well it's about damn time, but I will be surprised to see it make any real difference to be honest. The Yamaha boys are going to continue getting it handed to them by the Hondas. But at least that's one less complaint they'll be making, right?

Moto2 has some interesting news at the moment also. With Pol Espargaró moving to Tech 3 MotoGP next year, and Tito Rabat taking Redding's empty seat in MarcVDS as Redding moves to Gresini MotoGP, this leaves the very well reputed Pons Moto2 team riderless! Obviously such a competitive team isn't going to settle for just anyone, so the current word is that Sito Pons is trying to put together the money to bring Luis Salom and Maverick Viñales up from Moto3 for next season. (http://motocuatro.com/index.php/moto2/6420-2013-09-04-19-15-33) I think that would be fantastic, although I have some doubts after Sandro Cortese took last years championship, and has floundered this season.

In less exciting Moto2 news, Toni Elías, our inaugural Moto2 champion, has finally called it a day in GPs after competing since 1999. He is buggering off to Red Devils privateer Aprilia team in SBK, replacing Fabrizio, starting this weekend, and for the remainder of the season - with an option to continue next year (http://motocuatro.com/index.php/sbk/6432-2013-09-09-14-47-36). In further Moto2 news, Jordi Torres will be remaining with Aspar team next season and is expected to be a regular at the pointy end of things - with team bosses apparently seeing much potential in him.

As a matter of interest for Moto3, Luca Marini, the brother of Valentino Rossi is gonna wildcard at Misano (http://motocuatro.com/index.php/moto3/6423-2013-09-06-15-56-02). He's meant to be pretty flash. He'll be heading out there, unfortunately, on a FTR Honda rather than the all conquering KTM. This isn't too bad though - on his FTR Honda (Moto3) in the Italian championship he's achieved 7 podiums in 8 races. He had a run in the CEV (Spanish championship) this weekend in Moto3 at Albacete circuit, and came 7th - not bad in a field of 31 at a foreign circuit! He'll be running again at CEV Valencia, and has said that next year he's looking at doing the CEV full time or moving to the Moto3 World Championship - a lot of which depends on the outcome of this wildcard at Misano. He's looking for top 20 and has said if he doesn't get offered a ride in a good team for Moto3 WC he won't bother.

Interesting to note too that looking through the CEV results I saw the name of another WC relative - Wayne Gardner's son, Remy. He came 5th in the last round of the CEV in that same race as Marini, as mentioned above. Interesting how much of a family business WC racing is huh? The Márquez and Espargaró brothers, Stefan following his father Helmut etc.

[pritch]

Pedrosa says Misano is shorter and slower than most tracks, with a reduced grip level.
I have no idea what effect any of that will have on the results, but here goes nothing:
MM
JL
DP
VR
CC

Of course, it would be nice if Rossi could pull a rabbit out of his AGV in his own back yard.

[roogazza]

Pedrosa says Misano is shorter and slower than most tracks, with a reduced grip level.
I have no idea what effect any of that will have on the results, but here goes nothing:
MM
JL
DP
VR
CC
Of course, it would be nice if Rossi could pull a rabbit out of his AGV in his own back yard.
I get round there ok, but hey,I've got a reset button on 'Playstation" !!!!!!lol.
Rossi home track,if it matters at their level ? Hoping for a yamaha win this end.
Yams 1&2 (Rossi 1st), DP 3, MM in the shrubbery !

ps Yamaha to have new Seamless tranny for Misano.
Here you go :

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2013/09/12/2013_misano_motogp_preview_on_yamaha_s_s.html

[ac3_snow]

Pedrosa says Misano is shorter and slower than most tracks, with a reduced grip level.
I have no idea what effect any of that will have on the results, but here goes nothing:
MM
JL
DP
VR
CC

Of course, it would be nice if Rossi could pull a rabbit out of his AGV in his own back yard.

JL
MM
VR

Hope Yamahas new gearbox helps and doesn't have any teething problems.
House sitting this weekend and haven't checked if there is sommet sports or not :sweatdrop

[ecko_nzed]

Rossi home track,if it matters at their level ?

Doesn't seem to matter to MM he just seems to adapt.

[Bender]

MM
DP
VR
JL

Query for you experts - why are dual clutch transmissions banned in MGP? Only Honda and Yamaha have been able to afford the so-called seemless transmisson - at what cost? Honda quoted theirs at 600,000 pounds British. Surely a dual clutch tranny would be more cost effective?

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM

JL

VR

DP

Bautista

[merv]

Ducati has had a seamless box for a while too. It is just Yamaha that has been a bit slow.

[slowpoke]

Ducati has had a seamless box for a while too. It is just Yamaha that has been a bit slow.

Sheesh, just imagine if your missus had a seamless box, you'd never find the bloody thing in the dark.

[husaberg]

I remember Ant Young doing well in that class. IIRC the prize money was a lot better than in other national classes.


Was $500.00 for a race win, $400.00 for 2nd, $300.00 for 3rd and $100.00 back to 10th place. Was way more than any other class was paying back then...hence a lot of the top punters getting involved. The late Robert Holden, Andrew Rangi, Brett Richmond, Ant Young, Bruce Anstey, Simon Turner, John Hepburn, Wayne Clarke etc etc. Was hard work for sure. Fucking good fun though.


What about the original Glenn Williams i seem to remember him too......


Nah he'd fucked out well before the advent of 883 Twin Sports I fink mate.


I think he was fried before then too. I only have a patchy story of him from my/his old sponsors.


Maybe... but i had a feeling he was punting the 883's after the MZ's at the SOT


See post # 2624 I think.


I only missed the first and last years of 883 Twinsport mate...and Glen Williams was never a pilot whilst I was there.


Wasn't there a series bonus as well? $10K or summat?


Yeah there was. Can't remember how much it was though. I know in Aust it was a new 883 I think from mem.


He raced them for 1 season must have been the first, sponsored by Shaft.


Ah yep. Bet he was fast on the fucking things too then. Didn't seem to matter what he rode.


Rcktfsh, what ever happened to Glen the 1st ?? Like the rest, carry on with a job ? Grow old.

The Year was 1995 Series prize money was 25K
Brett Richmond won by one point (218 vs 217) From Glenn Williams the First. When he was asked how it felt after the penultimate race.
Glenn Said well someone had to win

[haydes55]

Anyone else still up watching qualifying?
MM pole by 0.5 seconds in the 1:32's and by 6th (ish) place they are in the 1:34's

MM
JL
VR

Hard to see the race being too different to qualifying.

[DidJit]

Márquez the Magnificent.

[manxkiwi]

MM

JL

VR

DP

Bautista

Fingers crossed. I've got the same but VR & DP the other way around.

It's going to be a good a good race either way. We should start running a book on how many points MM is going to win the championship by!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

The Year was 1995 Series prize money was 25K
Brett Richmond won by one point (218 vs 217) From Glenn Williams the First. When he was asked how it felt after the penultimate race.
Glenn Said well someone had to win

Cheers for that. Richmond was a hard charger for sure. Very clean racer though.

[BMWST?]

sommett sports in a few minutes!

[jellywrestler]

Sheesh, just imagine if your missus had a seamless box, you'd never find the bloody thing in the dark.

a bit like why jesus never married, everything he touched healed!!!

[haydes55]

How many crashes has CC had this season? Down again in practice.

[haydes55]

This isn't live? I saw this, this morning? Or deja vu


Edit: morning not arvo :facepalm:

And we are onto the live warm up coverage now.

[Kendog]

Looks like the stunning ride by JL has left us all speechless.

[Bender]

Boring race, unfortunately.

[bartshumandad]

Cheers for that. Richmond was a hard charger for sure. Very clean racer though.

Hard he was, he rode from Hamilton to the South Island rounds, that is, fitted the lights and plate back on, packed his gear in a back pack, and toured it. No nancy trailers or vans required.

Now resides in Spain, he did some racing last year or 2, but i beleive he has re-retired after a heavy crash.

[Drew]

Looks like the stunning ride by JL has left us all speechless.I didn't get to see it till last night.


Boring race, unfortunately.Keh? Danni and Marc were great to watch. Haven't seen aggression like that from Danni, since last year when he battled Jorge at...hmmm, my memory is letting me down. The round that was on recently this season...Nope, complete brain fart.

Anyhoo, it's been said a lot that the little bugger can't scrap. He clearly can. I wonder if he holds back, what with his memory of being taken out by scrappers once or twice?

[roogazza]

Hard he was, he rode from Hamilton to the South Island rounds, that is, fitted the lights and plate back on, packed his gear in a back pack, and toured it. No nancy trailers or vans required.

That's 'old school', laughed when I heard that! Was still living in Aus around that time so lost touch with NZ racing, hadn't heard his name before this.
Had a mate in the 70's who did that sort of thing in Aus , making a name for himself.
Rode to the first Aussie 6 hr,changed his bars and bloody near won it.

[roogazza]

I didn't get to see it till last night.

Keh? Danni and Marc were great to watch. Haven't seen aggression like that from Danni, since last year when he battled Jorge at...hmmm, my memory is letting me down. The round that was on recently this season...Nope, complete brain fart.

Anyhoo, it's been said a lot that the little bugger can't scrap. He clearly can. I wonder if he holds back, what with his memory of being taken out by scrappers once or twice?

Me too, happened to catch it on this Sommet Sports at a hotel in Taupo! Pleasant surprise and the coverage was good too with slow mos etc.
DP seemed to fight back a bit on MM who just seems to go up a level. Horhay just great. Rossi disappointing for me, I had hoped.

[pritch]

Not the greatest race but the championship points situation tightened a bit. Similar situation in Moto 2.
I haven't watched Moto 3 yet but understsnd we won't see much of Valentino Rossi's little brother since he highsided in turn 1?

Best race of the weekend was WSS. (If I may mention that in this thread?)

[denill]

Best race of the weekend was WSS. (If I may mention that in this thread?)

I reckon you may mention that WSS race in this thread, as I would expect one, if not both the Lowes twins to feature in MotoGP racing, sooner or later.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hard he was, he rode from Hamilton to the South Island rounds, that is, fitted the lights and plate back on, packed his gear in a back pack, and toured it. No nancy trailers or vans required.

Now resides in Spain, he did some racing last year or 2, but i beleive he has re-retired after a heavy crash.

Yeah I saw on FB he'd had a nasty biff and banged himself up quite badly. Was doing endurance races on classic japanese bikes I think?

[husaberg]

Hard he was, he rode from Hamilton to the South Island rounds, that is, fitted the lights and plate back on, packed his gear in a back pack, and toured it. No nancy trailers or vans required.

Now resides in Spain, he did some racing last year or 2, but i beleive he has re-retired after a heavy crash.


That's 'old school', laughed when I heard that! Was still living in Aus around that time so lost touch with NZ racing, hadn't heard his name before this.
Had a mate in the 70's who did that sort of thing in Aus , making a name for himself.
Rode to the first Aussie 6 hr,changed his bars and bloody near won it.

I think the mag said he was living in AUS at the time of the Sporty racing so he was dedicated.
I will post the report when i can be arsed..

Oyster (on KB)was hard as he used to ride up from invercargil to GM street races on his 1930"S Dunlet take off the lights race it in the classics and go back again after the racing......

[DidJit]

What it would take (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/120918mq2s.htm) for CS27 to come back to MotoGP...

[steveyb]

Zee Germans are zo zerious zat zey vill tak ziss bullshit zeriously. :laugh:

[Oscar]

CS is winding them up, surely?

Those formulas would see the winner being the last man standing.

[slowpoke]

CS is winding them up, surely?

Those formulas would see the winner being the last man standing.

He's in dreamland but I gotta say I like his attitude better than Lorenzo's. Trouble is Lorenzo's vision is far more likely than Stoner's. I don't like Stoner but I'd rather watch him doing solo laps than a race full of Lorenzo's.

[Badjelly]

CS is winding them up, surely? Those formulas would see the winner being the last man standing.


I don't like Stoner but I'd rather watch him doing solo laps than a race full of Lorenzo's.

Solo laps, exactly. All the problems Casey has ever had with MotoGP derive from one thing: the fact that there are other people involved.

Edit: Mind you, I'd pay to see Casey doing solo laps on a full-noise two-stroke 750.

[roogazza]

CS is winding them up, surely?

You'd think so huh Oscar ? I'm reading Rossi's AutoB for the second time at the mo. He mentioned how he gets miss quoted all the time and his battles with the Italian media. Journos looking for a story and making up stuff.

[Badjelly]

You'd think so huh Oscar ? I'm reading Rossi's AutoB for the second time at the mo. He mentioned how he gets miss quoted all the time and his battles with the Italian media. Journos looking for a story and making up stuff.

Fair point.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Zee Germans are zo zerious zat zey vill tak ziss bullshit zeriously. :laugh:


CS is winding them up, surely?

Those formulas would see the winner being the last man standing.

Sounds fair to me!

[denill]

CS is winding them up, surely? Those formulas would see the winner being the last man standing.

That article is in sharp contrast to the <a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130917evol.htm>ScooterGP:</A> category that we are heading towards. Like it or not

[pritch]

CS is winding them up, surely?



CS has been posting on twitter about his latest motor racing project. It's a radio controlled model car, it appears to be an off-roader type but I know sfa about model cars. He mentioned a race meeting at a particular track; he must have been happy because I haven't seen any complaints.

I'd love an r/c helicopter, preferably with some sort of weapons system. For purely legal uses of course. :whistle:

[imdying]

I'd love an r/c helicopter, preferably with some sort of weapons system. For purely legal uses of course. :whistle:That is actually a disturbingly easy thing to construct.

[tail_end_charlie]

I've been wondering a lot this season about Randy de'Puniet (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130919b.htm) and what the hell has happened to his effort on the Aprilla. I mean, shit, Aliex out qualified him by 1.5s at Misano. At leas this article asks the same question as I:

"For whatever reason, de Puniet has been riding this season with body language that suggests someone had intentionally shot his dog, and looked pretty dour for a guy married to a super-model who seems to hate wearing clothes."

Couldn't have said it better myself.....

[merv]

Okay its a 350 race and not modern MotoGP but what classic from 1968 including bad luck for Molloy:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/uDWCpdw6b8w?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

[roogazza]

Must be nice to have a wealthy big brother ?
This one will be good for a leg up .
http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/09/20/manufacturers/ktm/valentino-rossi-forms-vr46-moto3-race-team/

[Mental Trousers]

Good to see he's thinking about what he'll do when he retires and also about the over whelming number of Spanish riders and the lack of leading Italian riders. I'm betting that's still a way off because even though he doesn't seem to be able to get close to Marquez, Lorenzo and Pedrossa now he's still a gold mine of publicity for the factory team. It's likely that Yamaha will keep him on to pay the bills.

Hope the team goes well though.

[onearmedbandit]

Including endorsements Rossi is still the highest paid rider in MotoGP.

[Drew]

Including endorsements Rossi is still the highest paid rider in MotoGP.For getting bums in seats, I think that's probably well deserved.

[yod]

Must be nice to have a wealthy big brother ?
This one will be good for a leg up .
http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/09/20/manufacturers/ktm/valentino-rossi-forms-vr46-moto3-race-team/

maybe we'll see VR on a KTM if there's an injury lol

[steveyb]

Well, at least according to Superbike Planet.
Useless Americans

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130926ii3x-0.htm

[Badjelly]

Well, at least according to Superbike Planet.
Useless Americans. http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130926ii3x-0.htm

Well, it said "quiet Australian". That's code for New Zealander.

[BMWST?]

22:30 qualifying on sommett uhf

[Asher]

Great Q2 session, be great if we had a 4-5 bike battle for the lead on race day.

[paturoa]

Very close at the sharp end of the pole

1. Marc Marquez Repsol Honda (http://www.cycleworld.com/honda/) 1:47.804
2. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1:47.814 +0.010
3. Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda 1:47.957 +0.153
4. Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1:47.962 +0.158
5. Stefan Bradl Honda 1:48.128 +0.324

[BMWST?]

a video i found


https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=10200437941331762

[roogazza]

Very close at the sharp end of the pole

1. Marc Marquez Repsol Honda (http://www.cycleworld.com/honda/) 1:47.804
2. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1:47.814 +0.010
3. Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda 1:47.957 +0.153
4. Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1:47.962 +0.158
5. Stefan Bradl Honda 1:48.128 +0.324
Yep quite close, here's a bit more info:
http://www.motomatters.com/press_release/2013/09/28/2013_aragon_motogp_saturday_post_qualify.html

[merv]

Pedrosa will be cursing the electronics at the moment I reckon.

[tail_end_charlie]

Pedrosa will be cursing the electronics at the moment I reckon.

I think he would be cursing Marc for removing the electronics; cheeky bastard snipped the wire for the rear wheel sensor on Dani's bike half way through the race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think he would be cursing Marc for removing the electronics; cheeky bastard snipped the wire for the rear wheel sensor on Dani's bike half way through the race.

Yeah but a pefectly legit racing incident I reckon.

[Kornholio]

Yeah but a perfectly legit racing incident I reckon.

Hell yeah, it's not as if Marc physically knocked him off the bike or crashed into him... Just knicked a wire.

Wonder what Dani would have done if he realised he had no TC and not crashed? Keep going without it and try and get some points or pull into pits and retire

[sil3nt]

Retired I would say. They can't live without these stupid electronic aids.

[Mushu]

Hell yeah, it's not as if Marc physically knocked him off the bike or crashed into him... Just knicked a wire.

Wonder what Dani would have done if he realised he had no TC and not crashed? Keep going without it and try and get some points or pull into pits and retire

It would have been awesome to see Danis real skill if he'd recovered the slide and continued the race, but there was really nothing he could have done at the time.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wonder what Dani would have done if he realised he had no TC and not crashed? Keep going without it and try and get some points or pull into pits and retire

Dunno. But Stoner and MM would've be stoked I reckon!

[tail_end_charlie]

Yeah but a pefectly legit racing incident I reckon.

Agreed, can't really say that there was any intent to harm or anything like that from Marc. However, the incident happened because he followed Dani in and outbraked himself, which we have seen a lot this season from the rookie. I will say that he has cleaned up his act from some of the shit he was pulling in Moto2, but there are still a lot of incidents of him doing stuff like running up the back of others.

I would say that Marc is running much closer to the ragged edge of things than anyone else, and that is why he is winning in his rookie year. Sooner or later I would think that is going to end in tears though, for him or for someone else.

(Then again he may get away with it for the next ten years, who knows?)

[Crasherfromwayback]

I would say that Marc is running much closer to the ragged edge of things than anyone else, and that is why he is winning in his rookie year. Sooner or later I would think that is going to end in tears though, for him or for someone else.

(Then again he may get away with it for the next ten years, who knows?)

Yep. You wanna win badly enough...you gotta take the risks. And sure you may get hurt. But he'd see that as a better option than not winning.

[tail_end_charlie]

David Emmett's (http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2013/09/30/2013_aragon_motogp_sunday_round_up_part_.html) on the Marquez/Pedrosa incident. I seem to agree with him; Marc generally rides with reckless abandon, but this incident doesn't constitute enough to penalize him.

[Kendog]

Did anyone else have audio problems when the crash happened?
Our audio was ahead of the picture, so we heard about the crash before we saw it.

Watching on Motogp.com at about 7am this morning.

[Robert Taylor]

Retired I would say. They can't live without these stupid electronic aids.

You are able to post on here because of ''stupid electronic aids''

[sil3nt]

You are able to post on here because of ''stupid electronic aids'':laugh: knew that would get your attention. Thankfully traction control, wheelie control and GPS/gyro assisted suspension settings have nothing to do with me being able to post on this forum.

Damn I forgot launch control.

[actungbaby]

Pedrosa will be cursing the electronics at the moment I reckon.

More like having moron for a team mate i cant wait till somone beats this clown

He just ticks me off:blink:

[Kornholio]

More like having moron for a team mate i cant wait till somone beats this clown

He just ticks me off:blink:

Moron? I'd say 'determined'... plus he has skills ...

[puddytat]

Skills enough to possibly win the crown in his rookie year....
Anyone know who's had the most wins in their first year?

[Drew]

GPS/gyro
Damn I forgot launch control.That's ok, you made up the GPS thing.

They're not allowed GPS, their suspension if it changes for different corners is done on distance since the last time they completed a lap.

[Mushu]

More like having moron for a team mate i cant wait till somone beats this clown

He just ticks me off:blink:

Your English ticks me off, MM has been showing exceptional skill for a rookie. Nobody else seems to be able to sit on the ragged edge like he can, or shrug off injuries sustained in practice/qualifying.

[sil3nt]

That's ok, you made up the GPS thing.

They're not allowed GPS, their suspension if it changes for different corners is done on distance since the last time they completed a lap.:laugh: Hardly made up just 4 years behind the times :bleh:

[BMWST?]

This is the sort of thing that seems to happen to other people when MM is near.He rides with absolutely no regard for the other rider(s).How he manages to always come out them intact beggars beleif.
The other shit that is gonna cause trouble one day is this pulling back in front of the other guy...when esparagaro passed reading then cut back across in front of him.

[Kornholio]

This is the sort of thing that seems to happen to other people when MM is near.He rides with absolutely no regard for the other rider(s).How he manages to always come out them intact beggars beleif.
The other shit that is gonna cause trouble one day is this pulling back in front of the other guy...when esparagaro passed reading then cut back across in front of him.

He doesn't wave much either...

[Mushu]

This is the sort of thing that seems to happen to other people when MM is near.He rides with absolutely no regard for the other rider(s).How he manages to always come out them intact beggars beleif.
The other shit that is gonna cause trouble one day is this pulling back in front of the other guy...when esparagaro passed reading then cut back across in front of him.

Just got done watching a doco on Ayrton Senna, similar things were said about him, even when Allan Prost was ramming him trying to take him out of the race. To some degree it's true but aggressiveness at going for any gap is part of being a truly exceptional racer. As Senna himself said: if you aren't going for the gaps and trying to win, you're no longer racing.

[ducatilover]

This is the sort of thing that seems to happen to other people when MM is near.He rides with absolutely no regard for the other rider(s).How he manages to always come out them intact beggars beleif.
The other shit that is gonna cause trouble one day is this pulling back in front of the other guy...when esparagaro passed reading then cut back across in front of him.

Very unusual for MotoGP isn't it... especially a very, very fast rookie.

[Mushu]

Came across this pic on another forum.
Here's one reason Pedro can't be too upset with MM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/30/unepunuz.jpg

[Robert Taylor]

Your English ticks me off, MM has been showing exceptional skill for a rookie. Nobody else seems to be able to sit on the ragged edge like he can, or shrug off injuries sustained in practice/qualifying.

Don't speak too soon, ''the big one'' is coming sometime soon and that will mean the best and most well rounded and intelligent rider ( Lorenzo ) will win the title.

[Mental Trousers]

Skills enough to possibly win the crown in his rookie year....
Anyone know who's had the most wins in their first year?

M Marquez

[Crasherfromwayback]

Don't speak too soon, ''the big one'' is coming sometime soon and that will mean the best and most well rounded and intelligent rider ( Lorenzo ) will win the title.

Sheesh you're a hard man Robert. MM has already had a few huge ones. But it's not like Lorenzo didn't highside himself into oblivion in his first year eh? Two broken ankles in China anyone? MM FTW!

[Drew]

I have taken the rest of the day off, to drink away my sorrows at what I think was Danni's last chance to take home the title.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!

[pritch]

MM has already had a few huge ones. But it's not like Lorenzo didn't highside himself into oblivion in his first year eh?

MM has crashed a lot but hasn't been badly hurt, he was bloody lucky not be be seriously injured when he hit that concrete wall at near top speed. By luck, or by good management, he went off the bike on the side opposite the wall.

In JLs first season in the top class he had so many high sides he qualified for frequent flyer points.

Which reminds me... Eugene Laverty was having an amused little whinge about how he gets treated by airline staff. Bradley Smith backed him up having had similar experiences. Apparently the staff are unaccustomed to scruffy young blokes in hoodies and shorts travelling business or first class.

On his very next flight Laverty got pulled for a security check. Well, he does travel on an Irish passport.

Must be a tough life being a factory rider. :whistle:

[ecko_nzed]

I have taken the rest of the day off, to drink away my sorrows at what I think was Danni's last chance to take home the title.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!
Was gutting to watch. Dani looked like he had the pace to win. Although it is being written off as a "racing incident" I still think that MM should be penalized in some way.

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM has crashed a lot but hasn't been badly hurt, he was bloody lucky not be be seriously injured when he hit that concrete wall at near top speed. By luck, or by good management, he went off the bike on the side opposite the wall.

In JLs first season in the top class he had so many high sides he qualified for frequent flyer points.

Which reminds me... Eugene Laverty was having an amused little whinge about how he gets treated by airline staff. Bradley Smith backed him up having had similar experiences. Apparently the staff are unaccustomed to scruffy young blokes in hoodies and shorts travelling business or first class.

On his very next flight Laverty got pulled for a security check. Well, he does travel on an Irish passport.

Must be a tough life being a factory rider. :whistle:

Lol. I reckon!

Although it is being written off as a "racing incident" I still think that MM should be penalized in some way.

Are you serious? Sheesh mate...it's racing! Do you want to have them all following each other single file?

[bogan]

I have taken the rest of the day off, to drink away my sorrows at what I think was Danni's last chance to take home the title.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!

Yeh one of the commentators summed it up, 'Dani is one of the best riders to never win the title'

Still, I think even without that off, he was unlikely to take it this year.

[ecko_nzed]

Lol. I reckon!


Are you serious? Sheesh mate...it's racing! Do you want to have them all following each other single file?

Yes, and if they could award achievement ribbons down to 20th place then have a big group hug!

Of course I don't want them to ride single file, but if he hadn't torn the sensor off and Dani wasn't impacted other than a bit of rubbing, then sure carry on, no harm, no foul. MM's impatience caused Dani to crash. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of MM, he is an uber talent (much like CS), end of the day, he overcooked the corner and should have picked up the bike to avoid Dani.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes, and if they could award achievement ribbons down to 20th place then have a big group hug!

Of course I don't want them to ride single file, but if he hadn't torn the sensor off and Dani wasn't impacted other than a bit of rubbing, then sure carry on, no harm, no foul. MM's impatience caused Dani to crash. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of MM, he is an uber talent (much like CS), end of the day, he overcooked the corner and should have picked up the bike to avoid Dani.

Lol. Reckon. I hear ya...but can't agree the guy should be in any way fined or penalised for that sort of minor racing act. If they do that...the guys will become too scared to have a go for fear of getting a smacked botty.

[Brian d marge]

yesterday at work there were some containers with swingarm parts and some other rear? chassis stuff being sent out

not sure whose bike is getting the new parts

Stephen

[GD66]

For which factory ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

For which factory ?

Me be thinking Honda.

[Brian d marge]

Me be thinking Honda.

Yes you would be correct

Stephen

[tail_end_charlie]

Lol. Reckon. I hear ya...but can't agree the guy should be in any way fined or penalised for that sort of minor racing act. If they do that...the guys will become too scared to have a go for fear of getting a smacked botty.

It's a rough situation to be in from the Dorna Safety Commities perspective. The contact with Dani was minor, and the result was due to such a freak occurance that only Hollywood would have been able to get away with it. But I think everyone can agree that MM is riding it on and over the edge more than the others. Cause if he weren't, then he would probably be in riding in lockstep behind JL. So do they penalize him for doing what he has to to beat the aliens............or do they let it go? Either way they are going to have a chorus of people cursing them for not upholding safety or coddleing the riders.

IMO the best bet would be to let it go as a racing incident. I dont' think that giving MM some more penalty points will change his attitude much. That won't chang until he exchanges his leathers for a spacesuit...........or bodybag.

.......MotoGP.com (http://www.motogp.com/) are reporting that Race Direction will meet with Dani and Marc in Sepang, guess we'll see..........

[Mushu]

Was gutting to watch. Dani looked like he had the pace to win. Although it is being written off as a "racing incident" I still think that MM should be penalized in some way.

I'm gutted for Dani but bikes touch all the time in racing, there's no way MM should be penalized for such a minor rub. Dani was just unlucky that it damaged the sensor.

[codgyoleracer]

No way there is a penalty there, If anything it just shows us how this type of stuff need to be tucked out of harms way for this type of contact - and a rule put in place to make it happen. Bit like the front brake protectors rule, that one stops a lot of incidents with accidental front brake application.

[Crasherfromwayback]

IMO the best bet would be to let it go as a racing incident. I dont' think that giving MM some more penalty points will change his attitude much. That won't chang until he exchanges his leathers for a spacesuit...........or bodybag.

.......MotoGP.com (http://www.motogp.com/) are reporting that Race Direction will meet with Dani and Marc in Sepang, guess we'll see..........


I'm gutted for Dani but bikes touch all the time in racing, there's no way MM should be penalized for such a minor rub. Dani was just unlucky that it damaged the sensor.


No way there is a penalty there, If anything it just shows us how this type of stuff need to be tucked out of harms way for this type of contact - and a rule put in place to make it happen. Bit like the front brake protectors rule, that one stops a lot of incidents with accidental front brake application.

Absofuckinglutely

[bogan]

Have we got pics of the offending sensor and how it was stuck on there?

[Drew]

Have we got pics of the offending sensor and how it was stuck on there?
Was going around facebook the other day. Broken wire from the sensor, not the sensor itself.

[codgyoleracer]

Absofuckinglutely

Trackday rules is the other option Crash. No passing on the inside and 2m spread between any one vehicle at any time (lets all go and have a nice cuppa-tea)............... :-)

[bogan]

Was going around facebook the other day. Broken wire from the sensor, not the sensor itself.

Ah yup, might be a few crews going over the bikes and just tucking in wires a little more tightly over this week I think.

If this isn't just a 'shit-happens' racing incident I really worry about the sport.

[Drew]

Trackday rules is the other option Crash. No passing on the inside and 2m spread between any one vehicle at any time (lets all go and have a nice cuppa-tea)............... :-)I have always laughed at that rule. It's fucken hard to commit to going the long way round some squid, with a shiny new full license to match his shiny new gixxer thou, when they take three attempts to tip into any given corner.