Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Drew]

You sound like you're suffering withdrawal symptoms already.

Wait, what?

Is part of your position that those of us being vaccinated, are addicted to it?

That's a new take. Hilariously bullshit, but at least it's original.

[TheDemonLord]

Wait, what?

Is part of your position that those of us being vaccinated, are addicted to it?

That's a new take. Hilariously bullshit, but at least it's original.

Addicted? No.

But during Covid, I did see a certain type of radical left-wing person use their Vaccination status as some form of Piety indicator.

Vaccinated was expected.
Vaccinated and boosted was okay.
Vaccinated and Double Boosted was good.
Vaccinated and Triple Boosted was better.
Vaccinated and Quadruple Boosted was...

In essence, the person who could show the greatest allegiance to the current thing was the one who was most worthy of adoration (within those circles). I saw the same behavior with Masking as well.

What should be a decision about ones individual health, became a way to signal ones virtue - and it is at that point it got absurd.

[onearmedbandit]

In essence, the person who could show the greatest allegiance to the current thing was the one who was most worthy of adoration (within those circles). I saw the same behavior with Masking as well.

What should be a decision about ones individual health, became a way to signal ones virtue - and it is at that point it got absurd.

Let's be fair, the reverse applied as well. Arguably with the same or greater vitriol against those who thought differently.

[Berries]

Let's be fair, the reverse applied as well. Arguably with the same or greater vitriol against those who thought differently.
And they are still banging on about it.

[Katman]

Let's be fair, the reverse applied as well. Arguably with the same or greater vitriol against those who thought differently.

Those sure are some mRNA enhanced glasses you're looking through there.

The vitriol that I witnessed was almost always aimed directly at the unvaccinated.

[onearmedbandit]

That sure is some vaccine enhanced glasses you're looking through there.

The vitriol that I witnessed was almost always directed towards the unvaccinated.

I saw it from both sides myself. But the worst I know of personally was a friend’s wife driving home from her job one day. She was actually opposed to wearing masks but had to do so because of her job. On her drive home she had forgotten to take it off, until a car pulled up next to her and someone threw a drink at her window and started abusing her for wearing a mask in a car by herself.

Personally I saw verbal attacks on people in my local supermarket on some for wearing masks as well, yet those I saw who didn’t want to wear a mask walked around without verbal abuse being thrown their way, just looks of bewilderment.

With respect to vaccines, and yes I was vaccinated, once again there was abuse directed towards those that did for ‘propogating the governments lies’ and being ‘dumb sheeple’ etc.

The fact that you find it necessary to say things like ‘vaccine enhanced glasses’ shows how one sided you view things. Without a doubt there was ridicule and abuse from both sides, I can admit that. Can you? But the worst I saw or know of was from the anti mask and anti vaccine side.

[Katman]

The fact that you find it necessary to say things like ‘vaccine enhanced glasses’ shows how one sided you view things. Without a doubt there was ridicule and abuse from both sides, I can admit that. Can you? But the worst I saw or know of was from the anti mask and anti vaccine side.

Bullshit. The whole persecution of the unvaccinated started right from the top with horse-face's claim that there was going to be two classes of citizens.

Then came the cries of "if they're not vaccinated they don't deserve medical treatment".

I've lost count of the number of members of this site who declared their disgust for the unvaccinated.

So yeah, they're some super vaccine enhanced glasses you've got there.

[onearmedbandit]

I've lost count of the number of members of this site who declared their disgust for the unvaccinated.




Lost count? Seriously, how many do you suppose? Half a dozen? Twenty? Fifty?

[Katman]

Lost count? Seriously, how many do you suppose? Half a dozen? Twenty? Fifty?

When I ran out of fingers and toes.

[Laava]

Give him some credit! I am sure he can count to fifty!




edit, apparently it's only approx twenty!

[jellywrestler]

I'm just pointing out your selective outrage when it comes to things that can be harmful to you.

my selective outrage, can you enlighten me as to one or more instance that this has occured, cause in my life I cannot recall being outraged at one single thing.

[jellywrestler]

When I ran out of fingers and toes.

shows you level of intelligence that you still need fingers and toes to count, most of us on here are smarter than that.

[Katman]

shows you level of intelligence that you still need fingers and toes to count, most of us on here are smarter than that.

Have another drink Spyda.

[husaberg]

Give him some credit! I am sure he can count to fifty!

edit, apparently it's only approx twenty!

I enjoyed his accusatory claims of other having "selected outrage" when he's a self confessed recreational drug user totally unconcerned about about harm from say recreational drugs vs miniscule chance of adverse effect of vaccination.


who wouldn't want an increased risk of ...
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2024/02/28/marijuana-use-linked-to-higher-risk-of-heart-attack-and-strokehttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4337025/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7027431/
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.623403/full
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/02698811221115760

[onearmedbandit]

For sure, there are many potential risks with consuming cannabis. As someone who used to partake I was well aware of these risks, but smoking weed was never mandated. That was my main issue with the way the covid vaccine was handled. I honestly didn't see a need for me to take the vaccine, it was only due to factors involving my family and events I wanted to be a part of that I saw fit to get vaccinated. I have no concerns over the safety of the vaccine (excluding that there are inherent risks with any medication/vaccine/treatment) but as a relatively fit individual with no underlying issues that put me at risk I didn't feel that it was necessary (yes there is the argument of not passing the virus onto those that were at risk but that was (a) not an issue that I faced and (b) it was understood that the vaccine did little to prevent the spread of the virus.

[Katman]

For sure, there are many potential risks with consuming cannabis. As someone who used to partake I was well aware of these risks, but smoking weed was never mandated. That was my main issue with the way the covid vaccine was handled. I honestly didn't see a need for me to take the vaccine, it was only due to factors involving my family and events I wanted to be a part of that I saw fit to get vaccinated. I have no concerns over the safety of the vaccine (excluding that there are inherent risks with any medication/vaccine/treatment) but as a relatively fit individual with no underlying issues that put me at risk I didn't feel that it was necessary (yes there is the argument of not passing the virus onto those that were at risk but that was (a) not an issue that I faced and (b) it was understood that the vaccine did little to prevent the spread of the virus.

So basically you went along with it because you were forced to.

Some of us aren't that easily manipulated.

[onearmedbandit]

So basically you went along with it because you were forced to.

Some of us aren't that easily manipulated.

How great thou art...

Except you made a blunder my dear boy. I wasn't 'manipulated', I made a choice. I wasn't forced either, I could have elected to have missed out on these family events. But seeing as I felt there was no risk that I was overly concerned about, I made a free choice.

[Katman]

How great thou art...

Except you made a blunder my dear boy. I wasn't 'manipulated', I made a choice. I wasn't forced either, I could have elected to have missed out on these family events. But seeing as I felt there was no risk that I was overly concerned about, I made a free choice.

You were forced.

In the same way that someone with a family and mortgage who needed to keep their job was forced.

[onearmedbandit]

lmao, missing out on a couple birthdays is in no way comparable to someone losing their livelihood and home. I wasn’t forced at all, I made a choice. I could have stayed at home. We could’ve celebrated at home. I just wasn’t concerned about taking it, it didn’t phase me either way.

[Katman]

lmao, missing out on a couple birthdays is in no way comparable to someone losing their livelihood and home. I wasn’t forced at all, I made a choice. I could have stayed at home. We could’ve celebrated at home. I just wasn’t concerned about taking it, it didn’t phase me either way.

You've admitted that you didn't feel the need to take it.

You took it because you would have been denied family interaction if you didn't.

You were manipulated.

[TheDemonLord]

Let's be fair, the reverse applied as well. Arguably with the same or greater vitriol against those who thought differently.

Well... Hold up just there a second... Reading your subsequent post, I want to just first clarify I do not condone violence. Now that I have stated that clearly: The people that wanted to be left alone were compelled to follow rules or risk penalties.

People who did not want or believe in wearing a Mask - regardless of there reasons for doing so, were compelled to use them. I had issues in a number of stores with Zealous staff who revelled in their new-found piety in ordering people about.

Then we have the Vaccines - What historically had been a personal health decision was now mandated and Ahren passes issued, with significant societal restrictions for absolutely no reason.

And what I mean by that last part is that by the time the Vaccine Pass was rolled out, the data was clear that Covid was only an issue for those over 70 or with certain pre-existing medical conditions. We also had pretty conclusive evidence that the Covid vaccine did not stop transmission (which was the entire reason for enforcing the taking of the Vaccine).

The Vitriol you speak of (and I do not doubt its existence) was a direct response to the massive overeach and trampling of Civil Liberties.

Had the world not lost its mind and stuck to libertarian principles, I would wager that the vast majority of Virtiol that you speak of would not have occurred.

[TheDemonLord]

lmao, missing out on a couple birthdays is in no way comparable to someone losing their livelihood and home.

And what of the people that did loose their livelihood and homes.

I can think of a business locally that stood on principle and refused to check vaccine status. They were fined into bankruptcy.

I can think of a number of businesses that existed quite happily for years, only to go under due to the economic strains that the Covid restrictions placed on them.

I know of 2 people who are no longer with us because they felt like Death was an easier option than choosing between their livelihood or taking a medical intervention they had serious issues with.

[onearmedbandit]

You've admitted that you didn't feel the need to take it.

You took it because you would have been denied family interaction if you didn't.

You were manipulated.

Nah not denied family interaction, just it would've meant stacking the dishwasher.

Look, if I was opposed to the vaccine, say on health concerns, then yes I would agree with you. But I wasn't. So I don't. And I got to enjoy some great food.

[Katman]

Look, if I was opposed to the vaccine, say on health concerns, then yes I would agree with you. But I wasn't. So I don't. And I got to enjoy some great food.

But you said you knew you didn't need it.

Do you make a habit of sticking experimental shit in you if you don't think you need it?

[onearmedbandit]

Well... Hold up just there a second... Reading your subsequent post, I want to just first clarify I do not condone violence. Now that I have stated that clearly: The people that wanted to be left alone were compelled to follow rules or risk penalties.

People who did not want or believe in wearing a Mask - regardless of there reasons for doing so, were compelled to use them. I had issues in a number of stores with Zealous staff who revelled in their new-found piety in ordering people about.

Then we have the Vaccines - What historically had been a personal health decision was now mandated and Ahren passes issued, with significant societal restrictions for absolutely no reason.

And what I mean by that last part is that by the time the Vaccine Pass was rolled out, the data was clear that Covid was only an issue for those over 70 or with certain pre-existing medical conditions. We also had pretty conclusive evidence that the Covid vaccine did not stop transmission (which was the entire reason for enforcing the taking of the Vaccine).

The Vitriol you speak of (and I do not doubt its existence) was a direct response to the massive overeach and trampling of Civil Liberties.

Had the world not lost its mind and stuck to libertarian principles, I would wager that the vast majority of Virtiol that you speak of would not have occurred.

The vitriol I was referring to was in reply to your post about people signalling virtue based on their vaccine status, which happened on both sides. I know plenty of people who chose not to be vaccinated and mocked/abused/attacked those that did, expressing their superiority (calling themselves pure-bloods etc lol) based on the fact they were not vaccinated.

[onearmedbandit]

And what of the people that did loose their livelihood and homes.

I can think of a business locally that stood on principle and refused to check vaccine status. They were fined into bankruptcy.

I can think of a number of businesses that existed quite happily for years, only to go under due to the economic strains that the Covid restrictions placed on them.

I know of 2 people who are no longer with us because they felt like Death was an easier option than choosing between their livelihood or taking a medical intervention they had serious issues with.

I made it quite clear I was opposed to the mandate in an earlier post.

[Katman]

.....(calling themselves pure-bloods etc lol) based on the fact they were not vaccinated.

Well strictly speaking, they are.

[onearmedbandit]

Well strictly speaking, they are.

Maybe the ones that have never had a single vaccine in their entire lives. But the ones I know personally have had other vaccines. So no.

[Katman]

Maybe the ones that have never had a single vaccine in their entire lives.

I'm talking specifically about the experimental gene therapy treatment you willingly lined up for.

[onearmedbandit]

I'm talking specifically about the experimental gene therapy treatment you lined up for.

Yes there are articles that call it that. Doctors too. And there are other articles that say it isn't. And doctors too.

Who is right Katman? Explain how you know the difference. Don't repeat what you've read that agrees with your beliefs. Tell me in your own words how you are confident in your own findings. Tell me how you know those that say it isn't experimental gene therapy are wrong.

Me? I don't know. Never actually done any specific work on the subject. I could pull up articles all day long that say it isn't, but I couldn't tell anyone why they are correct. But I'm fascinated to hear your own personal laboratory-based findings as to why they would be wrong.

[Katman]

Yes there are articles that call it that. Doctors too. And there are other articles that say it isn't. And doctors too.

Who is right Katman? Explain how you know the difference. Don't repeat what you've read that agrees with your beliefs. Tell me in your own words how you are confident in your own findings. Tell me how you know those that say it isn't experimental gene therapy are wrong.

Me? I don't know. Never actually done any specific work on the subject. I could pull up articles all day long that say it isn't, but I couldn't tell anyone why they are correct. But I'm fascinated to hear your own personal laboratory-based findings as to why they would be wrong.

I provided you with that information a few pages ago.

[onearmedbandit]

I provided you with that information a few pages ago.

Your own lab work results?

[Katman]

Your own lab work results?

Yes - sometimes I use my wife's fingers and toes to count with as well.

[onearmedbandit]

Look, this is going nowhere. You are entitled to think what you may, as am I. We most likely will never end up on the same page. So I'm going to walk away from this discussion. You can take that as a victory if it makes you feel better. I'm taking it as MotoGP is on and I want to watch some bikes doing some laps. Best do it while I can, might have heart complications later and cark it!

[Katman]

Look, this is going nowhere.

Sorry, but I suspect we're just getting started.

You can't ignore it forever.

[TheDemonLord]

The vitriol I was referring to was in reply to your post about people signalling virtue based on their vaccine status, which happened on both sides. I know plenty of people who chose not to be vaccinated and mocked/abused/attacked those that did, expressing their superiority (calling themselves pure-bloods etc lol) based on the fact they were not vaccinated.

Sure - but that came after the Mandates.

Whereas the virtue signalling I am talking about came first.

That said - I will acknowledge your point that there is a degree of virtue signalling on both sides.

[Katman]

That said - I will acknowledge your point that there is a degree of virtue signalling on both sides.

To be fair, it doesn't get much better than pure-blood.

[Drew]

Have another drink Spyda.The hell is the bug up your arse about drinking? Is it just another majority that you think you're better than?


Well strictly speaking, they are.


To be fair, it doesn't get much better than pure-blood.
You can spout this as some form of virtue till the cows come home.
It's never gonna be accurate as a divider between those with or without covid vaccination. Because it's absolute bullshit.

[husaberg]

The hell is the bug up your arse about drinking? Is it just another majority that you think you're better than?




You can spout this as some form of virtue till the cows come home.
It's never gonna be accurate as a divider between those with or without covid vaccination. Because it's absolute bullshit.

funny he wants to be seen as "pure blooded" especially as he is completely ignorant that "pure breeding" involves forms of selective inbreeding.

[Katman]

Spoken like someone with an in-depth and first hand knowledge of inbreeding.

[husaberg]

I certainly can identify the effects of it when I see it
As I previously worked for NZ's latest genetics company and also supervised a very successful large scale endemic disease eradication programe. whilst simultaneously oversaw a very large vaccination program.
Where as it seems your only experience is finding your cousin a little too sexy and having a quick fondle in a treehouse in 89.
Also your only medical or scientific training is a boy scout badge in first aid.

[Katman]

You should do yourself a favour and go find yourself a hobby that isn't me.

[husaberg]

Someone needs new to find some material that's so 2020....
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/178017-The-American-(USA)-2016-presidential-elections-thread?p=1131167354#post1131167354

[Kickaha]

Spoken like someone with an in-depth and first hand knowledge of inbreeding.

Well, he is from the west coast

[Drew]

So, yer man has changed his tune. Wonder if that's because he works in a department full of people who know better than him.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/03/kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-vaccine?fbclid=IwY2xjawIzIQtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHb5jJ lt9hWD5s-AsUQorQo2eADOVDq81dw6GbcrLlEFChLXF11VArBXOyg_aem_f xrz94tlZPpPCQzH4aKAUQ

[Katman]

Copied and pasted from elsewhere.


NEW ZEALAND - YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PEOPLE CAN'T JUST "MOVE ON" FROM THE COVID YEARS...
This is Nikki, a former NZ Nurse. Some of you will recognise her as we have shared Nikki's journey dealing with serious Pfizer mRNA Covid injection harm.
Two weeks ago Nikki made New Zealand history. She became the first person we are aware of to be accepted for ACC cover for
BILATERAL PULMONARY EMBOLISM - post vaccine blood clots in both lungs
Nikki has given me permission to share her story....not just of mRNA harm, but the resulting over THREE YEAR LONG struggle to find justice.
Nikki was working as a nurse at the time the Covid vaccine employment mandates were introduced in New Zealand. She did not want to take the Provisionally Approved new technology mRNA. She capitulated to keep her job, and took her first dose of the Pfizer on the very last day, November 15, 2021.
She immediately felt unwell with racing heart, central chest pain and clamminess. The Pharmacy vaccinators said...."that's good, it means the vaccine is working".
In order to keep her beloved nursing job Nikki took dose two on December 6th 2021.
The reaction was immediate - excruciating right sided shoulder blade pain; a racing heart, clamminess, central chest pain and jawline pain.
Despite feeling terrified, she was told to go after 15 minutes observation. She drove herself home.
Over the coming weeks her symptoms all worsened, especially fatigue and breathlessness. Trying to find help was impossible, as doctors told her what she was going through was NORMAL and she would be ok.
Eventually she found a Nurse Practitioner who took her seriously and sent her blood for a D-Dimer test (to detect blood clots). The results returned levels almost 4 times the normal maximum level.
Nikki was sent to Ashburton Hospital with a likely Pulmonary Embolism (clots in the lung). Her treatment there was (at first) so medically negligent that it resulted in a Health and Disability case.
The following day a CT scan confirmed MULTIPLE BLOOD CLOTS IN BOTH LUNGS.
Despite this the hospital DID NOT ADMIT HER. Instead sending her home with drugs to care for herself, despite being barely able to walk and living alone.
A week later Nikki was readmitted to hospital and this time was cared for by a doctor who (finally) confirmed she was "vaccine injured".
Nikki lost her nursing career of 20 years because she refused the MANDATED third dose of the product that had nearly killed her.
Nikki applied for a MEDICAL EXEMPTION....AND WAS REFUSED.
Nikki has never regained her full health and she will remain on blood thinners, likely for the rest of her life.
It took Nikki 3 years and 2 months to finally be accepted by ACC for Pfizer vaccine injury of Pulmonary Embolism.
Nikki is also currently involved in an Employment Relations Authority case against her employers.
She was terminated FOR HAVING A COVID VACCINE INJURY.

[husaberg]

So, yer man has changed his tune. Wonder if that's because he works in a department full of people who know better than him.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/03/kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-vaccine?fbclid=IwY2xjawIzIQtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHb5jJ lt9hWD5s-AsUQorQo2eADOVDq81dw6GbcrLlEFChLXF11VArBXOyg_aem_f xrz94tlZPpPCQzH4aKAUQ

Odd RFjr recommending vaccinations for measles seems to have been glossed over by his most prolific KB superfan....

I wonder if RFK's appointment has any bearing on the spate of high level resignations within New Zealand's health sector recently.

I suspect there's a great number of people now sweating over what new information is about to come to light.


Great to see RFK Jr confirmed in the Senate vote.

Hopefully we'll see healthcare steered in a different direction.

RFK JR Urges people to get vaccinated for measles using MMR vax despite rampant katman faboism and KAtman claims that MMR cause autism (https://www.axios.com/2025/03/03/kennedy-jr-measles-outbreak-vaccine?fbclid=IwY2xjawIzIQtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHb5jJ lt9hWD5s-AsUQorQo2eADOVDq81dw6GbcrLlEFChLXF11VArBXOyg_aem_f xrz94tlZPpPCQzH4aKAUQ)

[Katman]

Yes, but: Kennedy emphasized that the decision to vaccinate is "a personal one."

Good on him.

[husaberg]

^^^^
Nice you try and find a nugget in the shit sandwhich that RFKjr just fed that anti vax suppoters



Driving the news: Kennedy wrote an op-ed for Fox News Digital on Sunday with the headline "Measles outbreak is call to action for all of us" and the subheading "MMR vaccine is crucial to avoiding potentially deadly disease."

"Vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to be vaccinated due to medical reasons," Kennedy wrote.

He noted that from 1953 to 1962, "on average there were 530,217 confirmed cases and 440 deaths," with a fatality rate of 1 in 1,205 cases.

Yet compare this to his previos statements


Robert F. Kennedy Jr. makes a variety of incorrect or misleading claims about vaccines, COVID-19 and other health-related topics, as we discuss in other articles in this series. But his views on vaccines rose to prominence when he began to advance the thoroughly debunked idea that they cause autism — and he is repeating his claims about autism as a presidential candidate.



The prevalence of children identified as having autism has risen in recent decades, but changes in awareness of the neurodevelopmental disorder and how it is defined play a major role in this increase, as we have written before. There may be some true increase in autism, but there’s no evidence that vaccines are a cause.


Early on, anti-vaccine groups and individuals falsely connected vaccination for measles, mumps and rubella to autism. But substantial research has disproven this idea, and a 1998 Lancet paper purporting to show a link has been retracted.


Kennedy, who’s running for the Democratic nomination for president, wrote a story co-published in 2005 by Rolling Stone and Salon in which he incorrectly claimed that the preservative thimerosal — used to prevent contamination of vaccine vials — was linked to the “epidemic of childhood neurological disorders.” Salon later retracted the story, citing concerns about its accuracy and value. It is also no longer available on the Rolling Stone website.


In fact, multiple studies have found no evidence exposure to thimerosal causes autism or other neurodevelopmental conditions. Thimerosal is no longer used in vaccines given to children, with the exception of some flu shots, and yet autism diagnoses have continued to rise.

[Katman]

Trigger warning - controversial intelligent black woman.

https://candaceowens.com/video/a-shot-in-the-dark-ep-14-mmr/?fbclid=IwY2xjawI4039leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHdEinsyURA9H qMSxJKqgrwG7Sya7570uTMejlBWTipDeUc45XQ0AUaSdJg_aem _AxPMS3FUFzLeOTNFiNwsBg

[husaberg]

Not sure what you think will be triggered? sympathy? Pitty?
Owens has stated that she does not believe in science which she described as a pagan faith.

"I have left the megachurch of science because what I have now realized is that science—what it is actually, if you think about it—is a pagan faith."

In 2021, Owens attracted media attention when she stated that the United States should "invade Australia",saying that "Australia had turned into a tyrannical Nazi-style police state due to its public health precautions against COVID-19."

[Katman]

https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/a-systematic-review-of-autopsy-findings-in-deaths-after-covid-19-vaccination/

[husaberg]

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/flawed-autopsy-review-revives-unsupported-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-harm-censorship/

Update, Aug. 2: Forensic Science International withdrew the paper in early August, against the wishes of the authors. After concerns were raised about the paper, including “inappropriate” citations and design methodology; “[e]rrors, misrepresentation, and lack of factual support for the conclusions”; along with “[f]ailure to recognise and cite disconfirming evidence,” the authors submitted a revised manuscript. According to the removal notice, “peer-reviewers concluded that the revised manuscript did not sufficiently address the concerns raised by the community and that it was not suitable for publication in the journal.”


Hodkinson and McCullough, along with five other authors, are also affiliated with and have a financial interest in The Wellness Company, a supplement and telehealth company that sells unproven treatments, including for purported protection against vaccines.



autopsy reports come from 14 countries that collectively administered some 2.2 billion vaccine doses. If the COVID-19 vaccines truly were as dangerous as the review authors contend, this would be evident in other data sources — but it’s not.
Perhaps most tellingly, the scientists who conducted many of the autopsy studies came to opposite conclusions than the review authors. Of the 240 cases, for example, 105 come from a single paper in Colombia, whose authors found “[n]o relation between the cause of death and vaccination.”

Similarly, the review authors counted 24 of 28 autopsies from a study from Singapore as vaccine-related, even though the original authors identified “no definite causative relationship” to mRNA vaccines.
https://www.twc.health/?srsltid=AfmBOor_2rd-FbZZtkIOMO0EaHADtfznSrIl4XSHOog70vbtmfRORJhF
https://www.fox4news.com/news/baylor-scott-white-sues-dallas-doctor-covid-19-vaccine-skeptic-and-demands-he-stop-using-its-name

[flyingcrocodile46]

More proof that many of the most highly touted vaccines don't even work. 100% ineffectiveness of Flu vaccines hidden all the way back to the early 2000's.

Flu Vaccine Exposed: The Shocking NIH (That's the National Institute for Health helmed by the notorious liar Anthony Fauci) Discovery They Don't Want You To Know

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/flu-vaccine-exposed-shocking-nih-discovery-they-dont-want-you-know

[husaberg]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

flu vaccination in elderly large scale double blind and placebo.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-123-7-199510010-00008
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/383571

or just a whole heap.
https://publications.ersnet.org/content/erj/30/3/414#R2


but the gist is pretty clear to it seems all but a few too thick.

Data Synthesis:In a meta-analysis of 20 cohort studies, the pooled estimates of vaccine efficacy (1 −odds ratio) were 56% (95% CI, 39% to 68%) for preventing respiratory illness, 53% (CI, 35% to 66%) for preventing pneumonia, 50% (CI, 28% to 65%) for preventing hospitalization, and 68% (CI, 56% to 76%) for preventing death.
Vaccine efficacy in the case–control studies ranged from 32% to 45% for preventing hospitalization for pneumonia, from 31% to 65% for preventing hospital deaths from pneumonia and influenza, from 43% to 50% for preventing hospital deaths from all respiratory conditions, and from 27% to 30% for preventing deaths from all causes. The randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial showed a 50% or greater reduction in influenza-related illness. Recent cost-effectiveness studies confirm the efficacy of influenza vaccine in reducing influenza-related morbidity and mortality and show that vaccine provides important cost savings per year per vaccinated person.
Conclusion:
Despite the paucity of randomized trials, many studies confirm that influenza vaccine reduces the risks for pneumonia, hospitalization, and death in elderly persons during an influenza epidemic if the vaccine strain is identical or similar to the epidemic strain. Influenza immunization is an indispensable part of the care of persons 65 years of age and older. Annual vaccine administration requires the attention of all physicians and public health organizations.

[Katman]

A letter to RFK Jr.

https://10letters.org/Dokument.pdf

[husaberg]

Sounds real legit there all I see is another internet Karen barking at the moon..........
Peter Kotlar statimng security reasons, he didn't want to report on how the analysis was carried out, where it was carried out or by whom........

oh it gets better...."
Proxy for investigating the pandemic Peter Kotlar sank even lower today. He called vaccinated people genetically modified organisms and compared them to maize. He's only using his post to spread dangerous disinformation about vaccines and the pandemic, yet he has no evidence and is reluctant to publish his analyses,"


On Thursday, Slovak National Party (SNS) MP and known anti-vaxxer Peter Kotlar was appointed as the government's official proxy to lead the inquiry into the management of the COVID-19 pandemic.

According to a motion filed by Prime Minister Robert Fico (Smer), the task of the proxy will be "to carry out coordination tasks aimed at assessing and analysing the lawfulness, economic efficiency, purpose and efficacy of measures approved in relation to the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020-22." The motion goes on to assert that the management of pandemic measures was characterised by failures to protect basic rights and freedoms.
Kotlar's goal will be to ensure that "similar failures by the state" do not happen again.
In previous comments to disinformation media that would seem to prejudge the outcome of his investigation, Kotlar said that he wants to examine whether measures to contain the pandemic "were not a crime against humanity, threatening the health of our citizens (we already know today that it was!)". At the same time he wants to investigate the media, public figures and politicians "involved in propaganda with the aim of attaining a result that today can be considered a crime".
Kotlar has long been involved in the internet video streaming operation TV Slovan, which propagates distorted claims and hoaxes. Speaking on air, he claimed that he had never been vaccinated, even though he was a health professional. Neither of his children have been vaccinated.


The opposition Christian Democratic Movement (KDH) called Kotlar a conspirator. The party says that although certain things would now, with the benefit of hindsight, be done differently, the country was caught off guard in 2020 and did as much as possible for patients. The KDH agrees that Slovakia should return to the issue, but that the goal should be to prepare for similar crisis events in the future.
"To investigate the pandemic, Slovakia does not need Mr Kotlar, who wants to examine the presence of microparticles and microchips in the vaccines," the party said.
Progresivne Slovensko MP Oskar Dvorak said that he expects Kotlar to continue to spread disinformation.

....
pointed out that Kotlar's allegations have already been clearly opposed by the expert public in the past and that it has unequivocally refuted all of his unsubstantiated claims. KDH also pointed out that Slovakia had a significantly higher mortality rate from COVID-19 due to lower vaccination rates.

2nd October 24 yet here we are now months later still no evidence



Bratislava, October 2 (TASR) - I've already submitted my report on the COVID-19 pandemic management to the government and I recommend stopping of inoculation with mRNA vaccines until it's proven that they're safe as well as rejection of the updated WHO health regulations and pandemic agreement, Gov't Proxy for Investigation into COVID-19 Pandemic Management Peter Kotlar declared at a press conference on Wednesday.
Kotlar reiterated that the pandemic was "an act of bioterrorism" and a "fabricated operation codenamed COVID-19 pandemic". According to the Government Proxy, the aim of the operation was to "jeopardise human health" and "test the naivete of the global population to follow orders subliminally".
"Unless the vaccination with mRNA products is stopped or at least their efficiency and safety is proven, which today I already know it won't, and unless we save the Slovak Republic from the centralisation of power under the WHO, my task is senseless," declared Kotlar, who added that much of the information at his disposal he had acquired "illegitimately".


Peter Kotlár, the government’s “special envoy” investigating the previous administration’s response to Covid-19.

They are both members of the far-right Slovak National party. Šimkovičová was an anchor at the TV station Markíza until she was fired in 2015 for mocking Syrian refugees on her Facebook page. She used the notoriety to establish herself as a star of xenophobic, anti-vax, homophobic and pro-Russian social media. She also helped to launch an ultra-nationalist internet TV station called Slovan.

Yet


.."All assessments and analyses conducted on mRNA vaccines by European medicines agencies have confirmed the efficacy, safety and quality of the vaccines and they are duly registered like any other medicine,"


Slovakia was one of the worst affected countries during the Covid pandemic. In the central European EU member state with a population of 5 million, 21,000 people have died from Covid-19. In addition to the unsatisfactory state of the health care system, disinformation campaigns, distrust of modern Western vaccines, and the underestimation of Covid itself also contributed to this.

[Katman]

All I'm hearing is noise from a genetically modified organism.

[husaberg]

https://i.redd.it/f91u9u3tl72b1.jpg
https://www.reviewjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/16899360_web1_1-Bob-Englehart.jpg

[flyingcrocodile46]

Data just released by Health NZ OIA HNZ00080943.

Google it yourselves
Grand total of deaths from Covid itself from 2020 - 2025. 2885. Yep, 2885.Or about 0.06% of the population.OVER THE ENTIRE 5 YEARS!! or a smidge over 0.01% per yearA vanishingly small number.AND 90% of those were vaccinated anyway!The vaccine did NOT stop transmission. (that's right.... you were lied to)Was it worth the job losses, the ruined economy, the lives destroyed and the families torn apart?

[Katman]

Data just released by Health NZ OIA HNZ00080943.

Google it yourselves
Grand total of deaths from Covid itself from 2020 - 2025. 2885. Yep, 2885.Or about 0.06% of the population.OVER THE ENTIRE 5 YEARS!! or a smidge over 0.01% per yearA vanishingly small number.AND 90% of those were vaccinated anyway!The vaccine did NOT stop transmission. (that's right.... you were lied to)Was it worth the job losses, the ruined economy, the lives destroyed and the families torn apart?

And I wonder how that number compares to the number of people who have died or suffered long term debilitating illness as a result of the vaccine.

[flyingcrocodile46]

And I wonder how that number compares to the number of people who have died or suffered long term debilitating illness as a result of the vaccine.
No one here wants the answer to that question.

NEW STUDY — COVID-19 Vaccination Increased Risk of Hair Loss, Shingles, Endometriosis, Gum Disease, Warts, and More




https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1903517296347295744/PN4UMEmN?format=jpg&name=900x900


NEW STUDY — COVID-19 Vaccination Increased Risk of Hair Loss, Shingles, Endometriosis, Gum Disease,...


(https://t.co/6cfVJjkntr)


From thefocalpoints.com (https://t.co/6cfVJjkntr)

[husaberg]

And I wonder how that number compares to the number of people who have died or suffered long term debilitating illness as a result of the vaccine.
As vaccine injuries are recorded one does question why do you need to wonder ?unless these stats its not what you want to hear?
I wonder how many people have died or suffered needlessly as antivax cretins spread stupid conspiracy theories about vaccines like Andrew Wakefields?

I also see another week has gone by where your peter Kotlar COVID conspiracy you posted nearly 2 weeks ago has not been able to give a source of his stats? whats that now week 16 now....
yet posted him as being like he was some sort of credible source?

https://i.redd.it/f91u9u3tl72b1.jpg

[Katman]

yet posted him as being like he was some sort of credible source?

The Slovakian government seem to think he is.

They appointed him.

[husaberg]

The Slovakian government seem to think he is.

They appointed him.
Odd you never noticed hes a member of the alt right party that is in power. Do you know about the Slovakian government?
Get back to everyone when you have some actual credibly sourced factual information, rather than the opinion of an Antivaxers.
Sounds Legit....

According to Kotlar, no one has seen the analysis yet and, aside from those present at the Security Council session and Žilinka, no one will. Kotlar refused to answer questions by journalists,

oh it gets better.

https://etasr.sk/article/21852883

https://etasr.sk/article/21852883

[Katman]

The crime of scaremongering.

:killingme

[husaberg]

Odd that you consider that legal charges have been filed as being a joke when you were just a few lines above declaring the same countries GOVT backing of a person do do an investigation means a lot....:weird::niceone::lol:

I totally get that you don't understand that Slovakian language and words and criminal law don't translate directly into English.
I also understand how you think its perfectlly okay to spread untruths and malicious statements about vaccines and all sort soft other stuff. As you do the same every day.

[Katman]

Filing legal charges for the crime of scaremongering.

:killingme:killingme:killingme

[Katman]

https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/review-of-calls-for-market-removal-of-covid-19-vaccines-intensify-risks-far-outweigh-theoretical-benefits/

[husaberg]

https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/review-of-calls-for-market-removal-of-covid-19-vaccines-intensify-risks-far-outweigh-theoretical-benefits/
Funny, you already tried that one with the paper behind it. You would have to be a total idiot not to realise that it's utter garbage.
Same as it was a page ago. When you previously posted another link based on the same fraudulent discredited study.

The same could be said for the people behind it.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/159661-Thinking-of-getting-vaccinated/page387#post1131235097



https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/a-systematic-review-of-autopsy-findings-in-deaths-after-covid-19-vaccination/


https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/flawed-autopsy-review-revives-unsupported-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-harm-censorship/

Update, Aug. 2: Forensic Science International withdrew the paper in early August, against the wishes of the authors. After concerns were raised about the paper, including “inappropriate” citations and design methodology; “errors, misrepresentation, and lack of factual support for the conclusions”; along with “failure to recognise and cite disconfirming evidence,” the authors submitted a revised manuscript. According to the removal notice, “peer-reviewers concluded that the revised manuscript did not sufficiently address the concerns raised by the community and that it was not suitable for publication in the journal.”


"Hodkinson and McCullough, along with five other authors, are also affiliated with and have a financial interest in The Wellness Company, a supplement and telehealth company that sells unproven treatments, including for purported protection against vaccines."

https://www.twc.health/products/contagion-emergency-kit?variant=43932120613080
355921

https://www.twc.health/?srsltid=AfmBOor_2rd-FbZZtkIOMO0EaHADtfznSrIl4XSHOog70vbtmfRORJhF
https://www.fox4news.com/news/baylor-scott-white-sues-dallas-doctor-covid-19-vaccine-skeptic-and-demands-he-stop-using-its-name



As Dr. Jonathan Laxton, an assistant professor of medicine at the University of Manitoba who frequently debunks misinformation online, wrote at the time on Twitter, “this is not a conspiracy, the paper was literally biased hot garbage and the Lancet was right to remove it.”
Note the authors.
Maybe you can tell us what makes you believe these claim? especially when the papers and authors claims have time and time again have been removed from publications as being misleading?
They are so vilified and so easy to debunk, it would be impossible or a rational person to even consider them to be proof of anything short of the gullibility of some people.
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/flawed-autopsy-review-revives-unsupported-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-harm-censorship/
In case you never noticed Your papers authors peddle holistic cures and cattle drench and malaria drugs as being covid cures.
They run a business praying on weak minded people.
It's the same tired crap over and over again.
The exact same crap as Andrew Wakefeild did.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Ain't it strange how whenever circumstantial evidence (like the massive surge in all cause mortality after the covid vaccine roll out) is instantly and voraciously denied to be anything more than coincidence and is hotly denied due to lack of *indisputable* (impossible hurdle) evidence. Strangely, every single vaccine damage research document that might claim to support the circumstantial evidence is rejected in its entirety on the same impossible hurdle basis (failure to provide indisputable proof), and the turd is polished and worshiped all the more fervently by the deniers.


Even in the face of revelations of CDC & FDA evidenced fraudulent research, sampling and approval processes for the vaccines and the NIH active role in the gain of function research that developed the virus and its misinformation activities. Even with all the testing of the vaccines that show unprecedented levels of manufacturing contamination. Never. Not once ever, is there any thought/talk/concession that there is or should be any onus of proof required to support the highly questionable contention that the vaccine had nothing whatsoever to do with the massive surge in all cause mortality after the covid vaccine roll out despite the seemingly obvious correlation between potential cause and devastating effect.


Nope, the turd is polished ever brighter by the deniers with complete disregard for the overwhelmingly obvious stench as they cling to the turd with a passion and call the onlookers fools for questioning their faith in their unproven narrative. The persistence of faith in their non-evidenced narrative is comparable to that of flat-earthers imo.

[husaberg]

Ain't it strange how whenever circumstantial evidence (like the massive surge in all cause mortality after the covid vaccine roll out) is instantly and voraciously denied to be anything more than coincidence and is hotly denied due to lack of *indisputable* (impossible hurdle) evidence. Strangely, every single vaccine damage research document that might claim to support the circumstantial evidence is rejected in its entirety on the same impossible hurdle basis (failure to provide indisputable proof), and the turd is polished and worshiped all the more fervently by the deniers.


Even in the face of revelations of CDC & FDA evidenced fraudulent research, sampling and approval processes for the vaccines and the NIH active role in the gain of function research that developed the virus and its misinformation activities. Even with all the testing of the vaccines that show unprecedented levels of manufacturing contamination. Never. Not once ever, is there any thought/talk/concession that there is or should be any onus of proof required to support the highly questionable contention that the vaccine had nothing whatsoever to do with the massive surge in all cause mortality after the covid vaccine roll out despite the seemingly obvious correlation between potential cause and devastating effect.


Nope, the turd is polished ever brighter by the deniers with complete disregard for the overwhelmingly obvious stench as they cling to the turd with a passion and call the onlookers fools for questioning their faith in their unproven narrative. The persistence of faith in their non-evidenced narrative is comparable to that of flat-earthers imo.
What is strange is you only want to look at one tiny bit of data take it out completely of context . Use this same data to reach a predetermined conclusion, that coindidently suits your predetermined point of view. Calling a report that says well this happened so this must be the cause. While ignoring all other stuff is hilarious. Especially when some of the data attributed results that was not even in the data in the first place.
The use of this is bad enough but it use over and over again smacks of total desperation. Especially when there is real scentific unbiased data and evidence available to reach a true logical and unbiased deterination in the first place.
No one take the conspiracy nut jobs seriously as they so often show no real intelligence in their conclusions or even the ability to rationalise their conclusions.

If the data was real it would stand up to scrutiny. It would be repeatable. It would also not be based on total untruths manipulation or people who have clear predetermined obvious conflicts and biases. It would also not need to come down to a paper that keeps getting trotted out that is so easily disproved its utterly embarrassing.
It would stand on its own two feet and not be dragging its knuckles out of the swamp.
How about you refute the obvious short commings i presented in the links Katman and you provided rather than attempting to just say its a conspiracy over and over. again.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Total absence of denial noted.

Your rebuttal appears to be a cut and paste type response to an entirely different post as it doesn't even address my observations. Like you are unable to refute anything I said and are desperately attempting to play the player rather than the ball.

Polish on. :lol:

[flyingcrocodile46]

BREAKING STUDY — Ivermectin-Based Treatment Protocols Linked to 100% Survival in Hypoxemic COVID-19 Patients

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1904953163410817025/eYBss5q6?format=jpg&name=900x900

(https://t.co/LlD8hNGPjW)
BREAKING STUDY — Ivermectin-Based Treatment Protocols Linked to 100% Survival in Hypoxemic COVID-19...

(https://t.co/LlD8hNGPjW)
(https://t.co/LlD8hNGPjW)


From thefocalpoints.com (https://t.co/LlD8hNGPjW)

[husaberg]

https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/a-systematic-review-of-autopsy-findings-in-deaths-after-covid-19-vaccination/


BREAKING STUDY — Ivermectin-Based Treatment Protocols Linked to 100% Survival in Hypoxemic COVID-19 Patients

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1904953163410817025/eYBss5q6?format=jpg&name=900x900

(https://t.co/LlD8hNGPjW)
BREAKING STUDY — Ivermectin-Based Treatment Protocols Linked to 100% Survival in Hypoxemic COVID-19...

(https://t.co/LlD8hNGPjW)
(https://t.co/LlD8hNGPjW)


From thefocalpoints.com (https://t.co/LlD8hNGPjW)


Did you happen to notice who the author was?
Too funny. Multiple posts in a few days directly linked to the same old tired muppet who constantly spreads false information to benefit their own agenda...

[Katman]

Hmmm, Peter McCullough vs West Coast retard.

It's a tough one.:sherlock:

[husaberg]

Hmmm, Peter McCullough vs West Coast retard.

It's a tough one.:sherlock:

It would be for you. But you have been consistently proven to be generally lacking in being able to establish reasonable deductions.
https://www.factcheck.org/person/peter-mccullough/

Remember that time you claimed shitkicker pushing the geet engine was a modern day Nikola Tesla...

[Katman]

The gift that just keeps on giving.

:killingme

[husaberg]

We all know youre not the giver Steve....
Pretty sure this engine will also run on your obvious desperation for attention.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/174599-Alternative-fuels?p=1130863607&highlight=modern+day+tesla#post1130863607

[flyingcrocodile46]

It's amazing to watch how gaslighting turd polishers will dedicate so much energy into shutting down much needed healthy open discussion, critique and questioning of the obviously catastrophic pandemic management fiasco of the past 5 years.

The gaslighting turd polishers routinely justify the rejection of hundreds of published scientific studies on the basis of alleged failure to 100% satisfy every conceivable measure of verification that they arbitrarily decide to accept as relevant to determination of truth. While conveniently ignoring the tsunami of evidence that the authors of their preferred CDC,FDA,NIH,WHO narrative (e.g Fauci) manufactured and lied about literally every aspect of the narrative.

The world ending lethality of covid was an outright lie. The denial of guilt for the manufacture of the virus was an outright lie. Claims of vaccine prevention or reduction of transmission was an outright lie. Claims of vaccine reduction severity/lethality of infection was an outright lie. Fast track approval of vaccines were based on (now proven fraudulent) and incomplete data analysis processes.


Why is it that in their obsessive drive to identify and filter out every tiny little bit of counter narrative evidence, they so hypocritically avoid applying any such filtering to the fraudulent narrative that they seek to maintain? How does this impact their own credibility?


The same turd polishers that repeatedly accuse others of a lack of intelligence and/or truthfulness simply because they question the obviously fraudulent narrative that the turd is not a turd. Who are the real retards in this subterfuge (or are they simply paid shills who unscrupulously profit from the covid scamdemic)?

[flyingcrocodile46]

In 2022 NZ recorded 38,574 deaths. A HUGE spike.Easily over 4,000 excess deaths compared to earlier years.OIA HNZ00080943 states 1,485 died 'from' Covid in 2022.What about the other thousands?NZ Herald.




https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1904394244371959808/gnV5Fntu?format=jpg&name=900x900
(https://t.co/5e6NBTi5Is)
New Zealand records biggest increase in registered deaths in 100 years

(https://t.co/5e6NBTi5Is)
(https://t.co/5e6NBTi5Is)


(https://t.co/5e6NBTi5Is)


From nzherald.co.nz (https://t.co/5e6NBTi5Is)

[flyingcrocodile46]

Talking about the reasons why vaccine hesitancy became a thing.
Joe Rogan Experience #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries

https://youtu.be/207W1A_bJqI?si=NZ7xLs9u3l6vxHne

https://youtu.be/207W1A_bJqI?si=NZ7xLs9u3l6vxHne via @YouTube

[pritch]

RFK Jr in his mercenary insanity has recommended vitamin A as a cure for measles. He said further that cod liver oil capsules were the safest way to take vitamin A. Now in Lubbock, Texas, where there is a measles outbreak, multiple kids are presenting with symptoms of liver damage attributed to vitamin A poisoning. When Trump appointed this crackpot prick people said the appointment would cost lives and here we are right on schedule.

[husaberg]

RFK Jr in his mercenary insanity has recommended vitamin A as a cure for measles. He said further that cod liver oil capsules were the safest way to take vitamin A. Now in Lubbock, Texas, where there is a measles outbreak, multiple kids are presenting with symptoms of liver damage attributed to vitamin A poisoning. When Trump appointed this crackpot prick people said the appointment would cost lives and here we are right on schedule.

Maybe drinking bleach will help, either that or they could get on the roadkill and roids. Along with some cattle drench.
failing that you could find "real scientific" data on a Facebook conspiracy page ran by an internet Karen with links to a site that coincidentally sells remedies that work better then real medicine....
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/09/06/the-truth-about-nzs-death-rate-that-covid-commission-will-hear/


Your rebuttal appears to be a cut and paste type response to an entirely different post as it doesn't even address my observations.
Polish on. :lol:


It's amazing to watch how gaslighting turd polishers will dedicate so much energy

jeez can you make your mind up (without being told what to think on a conspiracy webpage)
cause to a rational person its either cutting an pasting ie phoning it in or devoting a lot of energy, it cant realistically be both. like you appear to be claiming only two posts appart.

Maybe what you should do is go on another linking to crackpot theories rampage where you claim people are clearly not smart enough to be able to see how your regurgitated crackpot theories are totally legit.
Your crap is laid out bare, its really clear your emperor has no clothes.

[jellywrestler]

The gift that just keeps on giving.

:killingme

just like Anal, until it tears....

[flyingcrocodile46]

"This Is Existential": Billionaire Cancer Researcher Says Covid & Vaccine Likely Causing Surge In Aggressive Cancers. Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong - a transplant surgeon-turned-biotech billionaire renowned for inventing the cancer drug Abraxane - has issued a startling warning in a new interview with Tucker Carlson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgZaT-OriO8

[husaberg]

"This Is Existential": Billionaire Cancer Researcher Says Covid & Vaccine Likely Causing Surge In Aggressive Cancers. Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong - a transplant surgeon-turned-biotech billionaire renowned for inventing the cancer drug Abraxane - has issued a startling warning in a new interview with Tucker Carlson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgZaT-OriO8




Lets see
A cancer drug developer and owner issues warning saying there will be more cancer, l cant see how he could possibly benefit from this, oh wait....:facepalm:
I also note his company immunityBio had developed a T cell-inducing universal COVID-19 vaccine booster shot.
No one in their right mind watches Tucker Carlson. But posting tucker Carson in itself that is funny enough are you a Russian bot? We all just thought you were steves alternative log in.

but without watching it ,Sounds a lot like Stevos earlier turbocancer claims that were shot down in flames.
but lets see, you said earlier we cant trust pharma scientists and pharma tech, but here you are posting something from a pharma tech billionaire....
ps I see you went with the posting rampage....

[Katman]

Vaccine contaminants.

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[husaberg]

Vaccine contaminants.

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DNA contamination in the Covid vaccines.


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11130870/










Google 'Can insertional mutagenesis cause cancer?'
Some more light reading.


https://www.perigon.io/news/health/2024/12/31/study-explores-bcg-vaccine-role-covid19


https://slguardian.org/special-dna-contamination-in-pfizers-covid-19-vaccines-raising-cancer-concerns/

anything new or same old tired crap, you have already subjected the world to?

[Katman]

So has anyone googled 'Can insertional mutagenesis cause cancer' yet?

[flyingcrocodile46]

anything new or same old tired shit you have already subjected the world to?

Speaking of "tired old shit" :lol:

[flyingcrocodile46]

So has anyone googled 'Can insertional mutagenesis cause cancer' yet?

That's not how it works in Barney land. You can't be wasting time and effort on doing any of your own research on genuine threats to your reality when you are predisposed to outright refusal to accept anything outside the narrative as having any authenticity or impact on that reality. They must be dismissed out of hand or by attacking the player that presents the threat evidence.

[flyingcrocodile46]

RFK Jr in his mercenary insanity has recommended vitamin A as a cure for measles. He said further that cod liver oil capsules were the safest way to take vitamin A. Now in Lubbock, Texas, where there is a measles outbreak, multiple kids are presenting with symptoms of liver damage attributed to vitamin A poisoning. When Trump appointed this crackpot prick people said the appointment would cost lives and here we are right on schedule.

Maybe people are overdosing through fear after the massive measles outbreak that followed a spike in measles vaccinations.

Texas Gave 15,000 More MMR Shots This Year - Now It Has More Measles Cases Than the Entire US Had In 2024
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/texas-gave-15000-more-mmr-shots-year-now-it-has-more-measles-cases-entire-us-had-2024

[husaberg]

That's not how it works in Barney land. You can't be wasting time and effort on doing any of your own research on genuine threats to your reality when you are predisposed to outright refusal to accept anything outside the narrative as having any authenticity or impact on that reality. They must be dismissed out of hand or by attacking the player that presents the threat evidence.
Your research is dismissed as it utter shite compared to real research. You are a perfect example of how dunning and Kruger described.
Which is why you and the other internet Karen from Taupo after looking at a few sites you think you know more then the 99.99% of actual experts.
Even when you are comprehensively shown to be wrong, you still cant see it.
https://i.redd.it/te5fv3b2pd8d1.jpeg

Maybe people are overdosing through fear after the massive measles outbreak that followed a spike in measles vaccinations.


Texas Gave 15,000 More MMR Shots This Year - Now It Has More Measles Cases Than the Entire US Had In 2024
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/texas-gave-15000-more-mmr-shots-year-now-it-has-more-measles-cases-entire-us-had-2024


So your conclusion is based on your epic research. Is the people are getting measles as a result of an increased level of vaccinations being carried out....
Yet in texas its a fact nearly all of the measles cases in this outbreak have never been vaccinated,......that's some real smart research there.....

[flyingcrocodile46]

That's not how it works in Barney land. You can't be wasting time and effort on doing any of your own research on genuine threats to your reality when you are predisposed to outright refusal to accept anything outside the narrative as having any authenticity or impact on that reality. They must be dismissed out of hand or by attacking the player that presents the threat evidence.

Case in point. Not my research or opinion or WETF. Just information made available for the consideration of those who may be interested :rolleyes:. Obsess much?


Your research is dismissed as it utter shite compared to real research. You are a perfect example of how dunning and Kruger described.
Which is why you and the other internet Karen from Taupo after looking at a few sites you think you know more then the 99.99% of actual experts.
Even when you are comprehensively shown to be wrong, you still cant see it.





So your conclusion i based on your epic research. Is the people are getting measles as a result of an increased level of vaccinations being carried out....
Yet in texas its a fact nearly all of the measles cases in this outbreak have never been vaccinated,......that's some real smart research there.....

I reposted the headline and pointed out the correlation of events, in the interest of allowing people to make their own conclusions. Not for projection of your conclusions or your guesses as to what mine might be. Not enough information to make conclusions beyond the fact that you are a turd polishing loser who is so emotionally insecure over the veracity of the scamdemic narrative that you hypocritically apply filters and hurdles to anything that threatens the narrative, yet refuse to apply the same criteria of critical analysis to the narrative that you so fearfully and tenuously cling to.
You are really a very sad individual.

[husaberg]

Case in point. Not my research or opinion or WETF. Just information made available for the consideration of those who may be interested :rolleyes:.
I reposted the headline and pointed out the correlation of events, in the interest of allowing people to make their own conclusions. Not for projection of your conclusions or your guesses as to what mine might be. Not enough information to make conclusions beyond the fact that you are a turd polishing loser who is so emotionally insecure over the veracity of the scamdemic narrative that you hypocritically apply filters and hurdles to anything that threatens the narrative, yet refuse to apply the same criteria of critical analysis to the narrative that you so fearfully and tenuously cling to.
You are really a very sad individual.
Fact, you have previously posted multiple items from the same conspiracy website.

BOMBSHELL, Peer-Reviewed Autism/Vaccine Study Draws Disturbing Conclusion
The pro-vaxx propagandists are going to have a hell of a time “debunking” this one.
The result was a shocking, if not surprising, 4.4-fold higher rate of autism among children with 11 or more vaxx visits to the state Vs those with none.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2025-01-27/bombshell-peer-reviewed-autismvaccine-study-draws-disturbing-conclusions


FDA Lab Uncovers Excess DNA Contamination In COVID-19 Vaccines.
Tests conducted at the FDA’s White Oak Campus in Maryland found that residual DNA levels exceeded regulatory safety limits by 6 to 470 times.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-lab-uncovers-excess-dna-contamination-covid-19-vaccines


Blockbuster Yale Study: Millions Of Long COVID Patients Might Actually Be Vaccine Injured
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/blockbuster-yale-study-millions-long-covid-patients-might-have-been-misdiagnosed-and-are


More proof that many of the most highly touted vaccines don't even work. 100% ineffectiveness of Flu vaccines hidden all the way back to the early 2000's.
Flu Vaccine Exposed: The Shocking NIH (That's the National Institute for Health helmed by the notorious liar Anthony Fauci) Discovery They Don't Want You To Know
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/flu-vaccine-exposed-shocking-nih-discovery-they-dont-want-you-know


Maybe people are overdosing through fear after the massive measles outbreak that followed a spike in measles vaccinations.
Texas Gave 15,000 More MMR Shots This Year - Now It Has More Measles Cases Than the Entire US Had In 2024
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/texas-gave-15000-more-mmr-shots-year-now-it-has-more-measles-cases-entire-us-had-2024

Therefore, based on your most recent 180.
We are now to assume that you are not going out and gathering information and posting things on this site that you think are true, despite all of your claims that you "are conducting your own research" in order to form your own "informed"opinions.
How come everything you post can be easily refuted as antivax twaddle?
Is this merely a coincidence?

But now if we believe your latest iteration you're saying, "Oh, no, that's not my opinion; I just cut and posted it."
How does this fit with your narrative you have previously used where you accused others of "copying and pasting" content from the internet rather than "conducting their own research."
Exactly How hypocritical can you get in one post.

[pete376403]

This will show that there are a lot of children not receiving MMR or other vaccinations. And this also notes that home schooled kids are not recorded here. (I would equate "home schooled" with "religious, anti government conspricacists") https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunizations/data/school/coverage

[pritch]

The current measles outbreak in Texas was initially confined to members of the Mennonite sect. It may have spread beyond that now.

[Pursang]

Danny Lemoi died!......His last words were: “HAPPY FRIDAY ALL YOU POISONOUS HORSE PASTE EATING SURVIVORS !!!”

Since his death, people just can't stop talking about Danny, his Ivermectin obsession...... and what a 'Really, Really, Big Heart' he had.


https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2023/03/14/an-ivermectin-influencer-died-now-his-followers-are-worried-about-their-own-severe-symptoms/

[pritch]

Maybe people are overdosing through fear after the massive measles outbreak that followed a spike in measles vaccinations.




Virtually 100% of the US measles cases are in unvaccinated kids. There are a few cases where the vaccination status was unknown. So no, the massive outbreak following a spike in vaccinations exists only in your head.

[Katman]

Virtually 100% of the US measles cases are in unvaccinated kids. There are a few cases where the vaccination status was unknown. So no, the massive outbreak following a spike in vaccinations exists only in your head.

You're old enough to remember that measles wasn't treated with the same level of hysteria 50 years ago.

Yet you've since swallowed the big pharma story hook, line and sinker.

[jellywrestler]

You're old enough to remember that measles wasn't treated with the same level of hysteria 50 years ago.



nothing was treated with the same level of hysteria though so what's your point?

[Katman]

nothing was treated with the same level of hysteria though so what's your point?

If it wasn't treated with hysteria back then, it probably doesn't warrant being treated with hysteria now.

[husaberg]

You're old enough to remember that measles wasn't treated with the same level of hysteria 50 years ago.

Yet you've since swallowed the big pharma story hook, line and sinker.


If it wasn't treated with hysteria back then, it probably doesn't warrant being treated with hysteria now.

So if we use pre vaccine US figures of 500,000 measles cases 50,000 hospitalisation and 500 deaths is no cause for interventions or alarm on the Katman scale of things not to get hysterical about?

The reason I ask of course is there are some around that get very hysterical about any deaths or ill effect at rates 100 times lower rates that occur with vaccinations?
Maybe you would be able to explain how the somewhat disproportional difference in levels of hysteria occurs in your own interpretations of what you feel is reasonable.
Based of course on your vast experience:msn-wink:

ps I have noticed you have previously tried to use the decade when the vaccination was introduced as a base line for figures to imply a lesser death rate occurred.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6878996/#:~:text=During%20the%201950s%20an%20annual%20aver age%20of,measles%20were%20reported%20in%20the%20Un ited%20States.&text=The%20introduction%20of%20measles%20vaccine%2 0and%20its,occurrence%20of%20measles%20in%20the%20 United%20States.

[nzspokes]

If it wasn't treated with hysteria back then, it probably doesn't warrant being treated with hysteria now.

50 years ago we didnt have tards online. HTH.

[Katman]

50 years ago we didnt have tards online. HTH.

50 years ago you actually had to look for them.

Now they just follow me around on here.

[husaberg]

355960
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[flyingcrocodile46]

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=355962&d=1743568722

[husaberg]

................
If all he says bears fruit it will come out...
But data needs to be interpreted correctly.
For instance the first vaccine roll out was to the old and compromised.
You would therefore expect much higher rates of mortality. Did he compare the death rates to real cohorts?
Do you know what caused their death?
Hes additionally claiming he's faced with a prison sentence for what?
Do you have any actual evidence what this persons says I even remotely legitimate?
For the least couple of weeks stuff had been repeatedly posted claims here that has not back up data at all. lets be fair the whole thread)
How about you give us your assurance that before posting this you actually looked into his claims?

Lets look at other claims that were similar to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFjdL6q_18

[Laava]

So this guy is a data base administrator. Not a doctor or medical professional? He might just be a stoner with a theory for all we know. And he is facing jail?


edit, he is an IT guy, working within te whatu ora and he published the personal details of around 10,000 people. And was whining about getting caught..I am assuming he has been sentenced by now but dont care enough to find out. Is kinda old news…

[Katman]

Refer post #5856.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden: How Vaccines Got Politicized

https://youtu.be/L28k2FTSENE?si=EpuP0dxEKfTxzRqm

[flyingcrocodile46]

I just wasted a few minutes of my life on a stupid pom it who has had two years to prove his theory and it turns out its utter shite
So shit even Alex Jones gave up on him:clap:

https://itp.nz/techblog/3319-Griffin-on-Tech-Barry-Young-is-no-Edward-Snowden


Once again, the resident turd polishing gas lighter goes out of their way to filter out and ridicule the credibility of anyone so much as questioning vaccine efficiency. Often (as in this case) by the blind acceptance of so called "independent expert" opinion as being a more reliable source of information. Doing so without any thought of applying any source or claim filtering such as verifying said "independence" or depth of expertise.

Scratching the surface of the claim reveals the so called "independent experts" were both rabid promoters of the vaccine roll out (i.e not independent at all, but active participants subject to huge conflicts of interest).:facepalm:
The infamous liar Ashley Bloomfield FFS and "Associate Professor" (AKA a class D professor 4 rungs down from the top) Helen Petousis-Harris who promotes herself as a world-renowned expert in *vaccine effectiveness and safety*(who also promoted an ineffective and dangerous vaccine).

Classic slimy turd polishing gaslighter.:no:

[husaberg]

Once again, the resident turd polishing gas lighter goes out of their way to filter out and ridicule the credibility of anyone so much as questioning vaccine efficiency. Often (as in this case) by the blind acceptance of so called "independent expert" opinion as being a more reliable source of information. Doing so without any thought of applying any source or claim filtering such as verifying said "independence" or depth of expertise.

Scratching the surface of the claim reveals the so called "independent experts" were both rabid promoters of the vaccine roll out (i.e not independent at all, but active participants subject to huge conflicts of interest).:facepalm:

Lets see your dude a database administrator with no actually credible specialist expert status or scientific or medical training
Gave the world access to NZ secret database and here we are 2 years later with no proof of what he claimed despite all the world conspiracy experts having access to the data.
Now why would it be two years later no one has been able to prove what he claimed using all the data? Assuming it was correct and so obvious.....
I will give you a clue....


infamous liar Ashley Bloomfield FFS and "Associate Professor" (AKA a class D professor 4 rungs down from the top) Helen Petousis-Harris who promotes herself as a world-renowned expert in *vaccine effectiveness and safety*(who also promoted an ineffective and dangerous vaccine).

Classic slimy turd polishing gaslighter.:no:
Let's see, I posted what was credible. He lacked any scientific or medical training; in two years, he produced no evidence for his claims. In fact, no one has come close to verifying his claims. Despite the information being posted, he stole and published people's personal information, and for that, you claim I am a gas-lighting turd who ridicules the credibility of people without evidence. Yet here you are, in only the paragraph below, doing the exact same to people who are actual scientists and doctors. Then you double down, making personal claims that are completely unfounded from a position of total ineptitude about vaccine safety and efficacy. It seems, not to be out done by Katman, your own level of narcissistic hypocrisy has reached its zenith in this post. Congratulations!

[flyingcrocodile46]

Lets see your dude a database administrator with no actually credible specialist expert status or scientific or medical training
Gave the world access to NZ secret database and here we are 2 years later with no proof of what he claimed despite all the world conspiracy experts having access to the data.
Now why would it be two years later no one has been able to prove what he claimed using all the data? Assuming it was correct and so obvious.....
I will give you a clue....


Let's see, I posted what was credible. He lacked any scientific or medical training; in two years, he produced no evidence for his claims. In fact, no one has come close to verifying his claims. Despite the information being posted, he stole and published people's personal information, and for that, you claim I am a gas-lighting turd who ridicules the credibility of people without evidence. Yet here you are, in only the paragraph below, doing the exact same to people who are actual scientists and doctors. Then you double down, making personal claims that are completely unfounded from a position of total ineptitude about vaccine safety and efficacy. It seems, not to be out done by Katman, your own level of narcissistic hypocrisy has reached its zenith in this post. Congratulations!

So... pretty much just a big 'No Yuo'

[Katman]

I am a gas-lighting turd

That's signature material.

[flyingcrocodile46]

That's signature material.

It was so pissed it couldn't even get that right. I never said it was a turd. I guess cognition ain't what it used to be.

[husaberg]

So this guy is a data base administrator. Not a doctor or medical professional? He might just be a stoner with a theory for all we know. And he is facing jail?




edit, he is an IT guy, working within te whatu ora and he published the personal details of around 10,000 people. And was whining about getting caught..I am assuming he has been sentenced by now but dont care enough to find out. Is kinda old news…
I just wasted a few minutes of my life on a stupid pom it who has had two years to prove his theory and it turns out its utter shite
So shit even Alex Jones gave up on him


https://itp.nz/techblog/3319-Griffin-on-Tech-Barry-Young-is-no-Edward-Snowden


its almost like the KB antivax crew us running interference so Katman doesn't have to answer for his massive display of hypocrisy he showed a few posts above.




You're old enough to remember that measles wasn't treated with the same level of hysteria 50 years ago.


Yet you've since swallowed the big pharma story hook, line and sinker.



If it wasn't treated with hysteria back then, it probably doesn't warrant being treated with hysteria now.


So if we use pre vaccine US figures of 500,000 measles cases 50,000 hospitalisation and 500 deaths is no cause for interventions or alarm on the Katman scale of things not to get hysterical about?


The reason I ask of course is there are some around that get very hysterical about any deaths or ill effect at rates 100 times lower rates that occur with vaccinations?
Maybe you would be able to explain how the somewhat disproportional difference in levels of hysteria occurs in your own interpretations of what you feel is reasonable.
Based of course on your vast experience


ps I have noticed you have previously tried to use the decade when the vaccination was introduced as a base line for figures to imply a lesser death rate occurred.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6878996/#:~:text=During%20the%201950s%20an%20annual%20aver age%20of,measles%20were%20reported%20in%20the%20Un ited%20States.&text=The%20introduction%20of%20measles%20vaccine%2 0and%20its,occurrence%20of%20measles%20in%20the%20 United%20States.
Watch Katman run and hide.
The narcissistic ego is so fragile.

[Katman]

I wonder what caused Courtney Duncan's heart condition.

[pritch]

Texas Gave 15,000 More MMR Shots This Year - Now It Has More Measles Cases Than the Entire US Had In 2024


It's possible that is true but you are drawing an entirely wrong conclusion. These figures may be a day or two out of date but nothing will have changed markedly.
The people who are vaccinated are not generally the people getting measles. With just a few exceptions.

[Kickaha]

I wonder what caused Courtney Duncan's heart condition.

You'll never know, but you'll imply and make shit up to suit while knowing it is also a possible side effect of having covid and multiple other things

[Katman]

And yet no-one has yet provided a link to a scientific study published prior to the vaccine roll-out linking myocarditis or pericarditis to the virus. If you can do so, please do.

[husaberg]

And yet no-one has yet provided a link to a scientific study published prior to the vaccine roll-out linking myocarditis or pericarditis to the virus. If you can do so, please do.


So, let's clarify this: you believe a study should have been conducted to investigate a potential side effect of a newly emerged virus for a side effect no one previously knew existed This side effect, which only a few anti-vaxxers claim never existed in significant numbers, piqued your curiosity. On the other hand, you wish to overlook the abundant scientific evidence proving that the virus itself leads to various cardiac and respiratory problems. However, you, with a biased anti-vax mindset, find this insufficient evidence for "Taupo anti-vax Karen."
Our of interest how much pot did you smoke this week Steve?
Pot has been proven to lead to high levels paranoia and long lasting mental issues.
https://www.cdc.gov/cannabis/health-effects/mental-health.html


What is even funnier is you have zero evidence or training in medicine to insinuate the cause of one persons issue, but are more then willing to insinuate you know the cause.




But lets see the difference in factors for unvaccinated in real clinical trials in relations to all heart issues rather then Steve dope fueled imagination


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/first-wave-covid-19-increased-risk-heart-attack-stroke-three-years-later



The researchers compared the two COVID-19 subgroups to a group of nearly 218,000 people who did not have the condition. They then tracked the patients from the time of their COVID-19 diagnosis until the development of either heart attack, stroke, or death, up to nearly three years. Accounting for patients who had pre-existing heart disease – about 11% in both groups – the researchers found that the risk of heart attack, stroke, and death was twice as high among all the COVID-19 patients


Compare this to the vaccines known rates of increase in rate of myocarditis with vaccine.

There is a very small but increased risk of developing myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) or pericarditis (inflammation of the sac lining the heart) after the Pfizer vaccination. Figures from the United States suggest that this risk is about six cases of myocarditis per million-second doses of the Pfizer vaccine.


Basically in relation to specifically to myocarditis you have a rate of 1 extra person developing it per 100,000 people if they are vaccinated . Yet with actually getting the vaccine and being exposed to COVID 19 you have a The relative risk (RR) for myocarditis more than seven times higher in the infection group than in the vaccination group.
now you don't have to be a mathematical genius to figure out which is a greater risk. Especially when you factor it you are 4 times less likely to actually get COVID after being vaccinated fully.

[Katman]

And still no evidence of a link between myocarditis/pericarditis and the virus dating from before the vaccine rollout.

[husaberg]

And still no evidence of a link between myocarditis/pericarditis and the virus dating from before the vaccine rollout.
To anyone of average intelligence or above, they would likely realise that the time between COVID-19 appearing and the vaccine rollout is not sufficient for longterm studies, as studies of this nature typically take longer. What is relevant to anyone of average intelligence, ie..not paranoid or delusional, is that the people in the study I have shown had not received a COVID vaccine at all. Its completely irrelevant when the study was published or begun or finished.
The only person who believes that the theme of the study had to take place and be concluded in an impossible timeframe is an idiot like you.
The only reason you are grasping at this straw is that you are attempting a strawman argument.
Rna vaccines have been studied for years. Paranoid delusions like yours are not new either, you have been spouting them on KB for years and none of the multiple paranoid delusions you have claimed have proven to be true in that timeframe.

[Katman]

To anyone of average intelligence or above, they would likely realise that the time between COVID-19 appearing and the vaccine rollout is not sufficient for longterm studies, as studies of this nature typically take longer.

No shit Sherlock.

I've been saying that from the start.

You all are the study.

[husaberg]

No shit Sherlock.

I've been saying that from the start.

You all are the study.
Not true, you have been pushing all sorts of fabricated story's.
Sherlock Holmes would look at evidence that is there that proves all your allegations were and still are unfounded.
Instead you seem more interested in coping a feel of Dr Watson.
You also want to bend the truth now to suit your claims. Like for instance missing out the "long term"
If you were right you wouldn't need to do this.

The limited data available that was expedited and approved under urgency has proven to be true as they had studied rna vaccines since the 60's. This was well documented. These studies were continued and were proven to be correct.
You are not uncovering a conspiracy, you are attempting yet again to fabricate one.
What is telling is your continued refusal to admit all the years of data we have now proves the vaccine is exponentially safer than the virus.
These are facts.
Its also a fact you will refuse to admit this is the case, instead as before you will likely go off on another tangent spreading more misinformation.

[Katman]

https://nypost.com/2025/04/04/health/multiple-nurses-get-brain-tumors-in-the-same-hospital-unit/

I wonder if they are all vaccinated.

[husaberg]

...............
Your vision apparently is slightly less then Stevie wonders.

[jellywrestler]

I wonder what caused Courtney Duncan's heart condition.

why don't you ask her?

[SaferRides]

I wonder what caused Courtney Duncan's heart condition.Very likely not known as there are many possible causes, including chest injury. I have a friend who had it after having a pacemaker implanted, but I doubt that was the cause for Courtney!

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[Katman]

“I have enough confidence in the vaccine, based on my research, to get it done. Those of you who think the vaccine kills people can use me as a test. If I die, you were right. If I don’t die, and have no ill effects, you were wrong, and should admit it (at least to yourselves). Better yet, you should admit that you were misled, and tell the world who misled you, so other people can benefit by avoiding those fear mongers.”

Famous last words from Doug Brignole.

[Katman]

Very likely not known as there are many possible causes, including chest injury. I have a friend who had it after having a pacemaker implanted, but I doubt that was the cause for Courtney!

Hmmm, I wonder what caused him to need a pacemaker.

[jellywrestler]

Hmmm, I wonder what caused him to need a pacemaker.

ask him yourself if you are that close to him maybe?

[jellywrestler]

Famous last words from Doug Brignole.

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/11/scicheck-bodybuilder-died-from-covid-19-not-the-vaccine-as-social-media-posts-claim/

[Katman]

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/11/scicheck-bodybuilder-died-from-covid-19-not-the-vaccine-as-social-media-posts-claim/

I was waiting for some idiot to post that.

If he died from Covid then the vaccine did him fuck all good, didn't it?

[jellywrestler]

I was waiting for some idiot to post that.

If he died from Covid then the vaccine did him fuck all good, didn't it?

no, but it didn't have the effect you seem to insist happens to everyone who ever walked past a vaccine clinic, so it seems there's more than one idiot here.

[Katman]

....so it seems there's more than one idiot here.

Indeed there is.

He likes to follow me around.

You two should hook up.

[Katman]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.30.25321421v3

[SaferRides]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.30.25321421v3Interesting, I wouldn't be surprised if it was ineffective, but not sure why flu increased in the vaccinated cohort. Quite a large study also.

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[Kickaha]

but not sure why flu increased in the vaccinated cohort.

Suppressed immune system from the covid vaccine :sweatdrop

[Katman]

Suppressed immune system from the covid vaccine :sweatdrop

There's many a true word said in jest.

[husaberg]

Interesting, I wouldn't be surprised if it was ineffective, but not sure why flu increased in the vaccinated cohort. Quite a large study also.

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The study has several limitations. First, it is not peer-reviewed. It does not consider factors such as the spouse’s occupation, the presence of children at home, the actual work environments of participants, or whether individuals held additional jobs.

Furthermore, the effectiveness of the vaccine depends on the specific flu strains circulating at the time. The study began when the vaccine was first rolled out, yet it typically takes about two months for full immunity to develop.

It also has a testing bias: vaccinated individuals were more likely to get tested for the flu. Meanwhile, some unvaccinated individuals may have already contracted the flu before the study began or during previous seasons, which could skew the results.

The study also did not assess the severity of outcomes, such as hospitalisations or long-term effects caused by the virus. It excluded data from people who self-isolated or used home flu tests.

Lastly, behavioral differences flu history between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were not addressed, particularly in terms of their likelihood to seek testing or modify their behavior after receiving the vaccine.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.17.22269450v1.full.pdf

TBH It's a better study than most that particular conspiracy idiot normally presents, granted, but it is not being used as the author's intended unit to be.

[flyingcrocodile46]

The study has several limitations. First, it is not peer-reviewed. It does not consider factors such as the spouse’s occupation, the presence of children at home, the actual work environments of participants, or whether individuals held additional jobs.

Furthermore, the effectiveness of the vaccine depends on the specific flu strains circulating at the time. The study began when the vaccine was first rolled out, yet it typically takes about two months for full immunity to develop.

It also has a testing bias: vaccinated individuals were more likely to get tested for the flu. Meanwhile, some unvaccinated individuals may have already contracted the flu before the study began or during previous seasons, which could skew the results.

The study also did not assess the severity of outcomes, such as hospitalisations or long-term effects caused by the virus. It excluded data from people who self-isolated or used home flu tests.

Lastly, behavioral differences flu history between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were not addressed, particularly in terms of their likelihood to seek testing or modify their behavior after receiving the vaccine.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.17.22269450v1.full.pdf

TBH It's a better study than most that particular conspiracy idiot normally presents, granted, but it is not being used as the author's intended unit to be.
:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme:killingme
Look at all them filters
Can you imagine even half of them being applied to vaccine approvals
:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme:killingme

[SaferRides]

Suppressed immune system from the covid vaccine :sweatdropLoL, why didn't I think of that!

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[husaberg]

The study has several limitations. First, it is not peer-reviewed. It does not consider factors such as the spouse’s occupation, the presence of children at home, the actual work environments of participants, or whether individuals held additional jobs.


Furthermore, the effectiveness of the vaccine depends on the specific flu strains circulating at the time. The study began when the vaccine was first rolled out, yet it typically takes about two months for full immunity to develop.


It also has a testing bias: vaccinated individuals were more likely to get tested for the flu. Meanwhile, some unvaccinated individuals may have already contracted the flu before the study began or during previous seasons, which could skew the results.


The study also did not assess the severity of outcomes, such as hospitalisations or long-term effects caused by the virus. It excluded data from people who self-isolated or used home flu tests.


Lastly, behavioral differences flu history between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were not addressed, particularly in terms of their likelihood to seek testing or modify their behavior after receiving the vaccine.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.17.22269450v1.full.pdf


TBH It's a better study than most that particular conspiracy idiot normally presents, granted, but it is not being used as the author's intended unit to be.



:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme:killingme
Look at all them filters
Can you imagine even half of them being applied to vaccine approvals
:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme:killingme


Are you perhaps overlooking something pretty evident to everyone who can read? The limitations are clearly outlined in plain English in the paper your associate shared, along with a disclaimer explicitly cautioning against drawing the conclusions that both you and Karenfromtaupo appear eager to reach.


All the studies you like to deride are actually held to higher standards, as they are peer-reviewed.
Maybe you should educate yourself to what is expected in a rational scientific paper, Before you go embarrassing yourself further?

[SaferRides]

Are you perhaps overlooking something pretty evident to everyone who can read? The limitations are clearly outlined in plain English in the paper your associate shared, along with a disclaimer explicitly cautioning against drawing the conclusions that both you and Karenfromtaupo appear eager to reach.


All the studies you like to deride are actually held to higher standards, as they are peer-reviewed.
Maybe you should educate yourself to what is expected in a rational scientific paper, Before you go embarrassing yourself further?

Far be it from me to defend anti-vaxers, but the note at the start states: "This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed.". It does not mean that it will not be peer reviewed or that the conclusions are invalid.



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[husaberg]

Far be it from me to defend anti-vaxers, but the note at the start states: "This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed.". It does not mean that it will not be peer reviewed or that the conclusions are invalid.



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No of course not, but one should not draw conclusions before it is, but given all the other limitations and the authors own limitations they point out on, how it should be used. Then you factor how in the conspiracy idiots are trying to use it. What is especially telling is the two conspiracy cretins like to claim all other scientific papers that have actually been peer reviewed somehow don't meet their degree of evidentiary requirements. But to be fair conspiracy confirmation bias is often highly hypocritical like this.

[Katman]

No of course not, but one should not draw conclusions before it is,

Exactly what conclusions were drawn?

I simply shared a link to a study.

[SaferRides]

Exactly what conclusions were drawn?

I simply shared a link to a study.I'd suggest that you read it as it is a short paper. Or at least an AI summary.

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[husaberg]

Exactly what conclusions were drawn?

I simply shared a link to a study.

Yeah and P Diddy just likes baby oil, maybe you might want to read the study in full before posting it as being part of anything aside from your own naivety?
If only you dedicated as much effort to understanding other people's posts as you do to twisting them to fit your narrative.

However, given your predictable and one-dimensional approach, we can confidently draw several conclusions from all of your posts in this discussion
Paranoia
Narcissism
dunning krugger
conspiracy theories
Grandiose sense of self importance
impotence
homoerotic fantasies
desperate need for attention.
so desperate have you became for attention that any attention will do whilst you truly to convince yourself you are making people angry the truth is the only emotion you generate from me with your posts is pity and mirth at your predictability and general lack of intellect and sophistication.

If anyone needs evidence, just look at your claims of being a mechanic alongside your posts linking to an engine that runs on coffee, where you label the inventor as a 'modern-day Tesla.'


Your ongoing defense of what is clearly a hoax, coupled with your persistent refusal to acknowledge it as a scam, is astonishing. It seems your narcissistic ego is preventing you from admitting what is obvious to anyone with even half a brain cell.

Some further info.


http://www.geetfriends.net/


He sounds like the modern day Nikola Tesla.
As a joke I added some of your posts into a program we use at work ,this what it analyses about your posts? The results speak for themselves.

Paranoia, narcissism, the Dunning-Kruger effect, and belief in conspiracy theories are all complex psychological phenomena that can impact an individual's thoughts, beliefs, and behaviors. Belief in conspiracy theories entails the acceptance of explanations that attribute events to secret plots by powerful groups.These terms reflect a range of psychological concepts and traits, often associated with mental health and interpersonal dynamics. Paranoia involves irrational distrust, while narcissism denotes an excessive focus on oneself, often accompanied by a grandiose sense of self-importance. Impotence can refer to feelings of powerlessness, and homoerotic fantasies may explore complex sexual desires. The Dunning-Kruger effect highlights the cognitive bias where individuals with low ability overestimate their competence, while conspiracy theories represent a tendency to attribute complex events to secret plots.

[pritch]

This news is depressing if hardly surprising. What would you expect from a guy who says a worm ate part of his brain and died but that he'd surround himself with other idiots.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/head-rfk-jr-vaccine-study-201913530.html

[Katman]

This news is depressing if hardly surprising.

Yahoo News.

That's a new level of desperation - even for you.

[husaberg]

Yahoo News.

That's a new level of desperation - even for you.
As per normal you choose to ignore facts in preference to narcissistic projection of your inadequacies onto others
https://www.iflscience.com/scientists-alarmed-as-us-picks-david-geier-to-lead-controversial-new-vaccine-and-autism-study-78573
https://autisticadvocacy.org/2025/03/asan-appalled-by-hiring-of-quack-david-geier-for-hhs-study/
https://www.medpagetoday.com/neurology/autism/114853
https://www.mbp.state.md.us/BPQAPP/orders/d2425008.222.pdf

oh look they just happened to invent a cure at the exact same time for a problem they created that never existed in any recorded prior or since just like old mate wakefeild
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2009/05/21/miracle-drug-called-junk-science-2/
You remember Wakefield the well known fraud that was struck off and has been proven in court to be a fraud many times over?
Where these guys modern day "teslas" like your geet engine inventor?

Some further info.
http://www.geetfriends.net/
He sounds like the modern day Nikola Tesla.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Yahoo News.
That's a new level of desperation - even for you.

A genuine bit of nonsense is what it is "Head of New RFK Jr. Vaccine Study Practiced Unlicensed Medicine on Autistic Kids"

Wow! Practicing Unlicensed Medicine.... What does that even mean (for context)?? Here's what the UK Govt have to say about it. https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-update/off-label-or-unlicensed-use-of-medicines-prescribers-responsibilities

The use of medicines outside of any license scope. Kinda like every single time a yet to be licensed medicine is trialed by a pharmaceutical company or University eh! FFS A big fat nothing burger wrapped in glitter for attention. Pffffffft


As per normal you choose to ignore facts in preference to narcissistic projection of your inadequacies onto others
https://www.iflscience.com/scientists-alarmed-as-us-picks-david-geier-to-lead-controversial-new-vaccine-and-autism-study-78573
https://autisticadvocacy.org/2025/03/asan-appalled-by-hiring-of-quack-david-geier-for-hhs-study/
https://www.medpagetoday.com/neurology/autism/114853
https://www.mbp.state.md.us/BPQAPP/orders/d2425008.222.pdf

oh look they just happened to invent a cure at the exact same time for a problem they created that never existed in any recorded prior or since just like old mate wakefeild
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2009/05/21/miracle-drug-called-junk-science-2/
You remember Wakefield the well known fraud that was struck off and has been proven in court to be a fraud many times over?
Where these guys modern day "teslas" like your geet engine inventor?


You allege projection in ignorance of facts then proceed to perform your own projection using links (presumably to illustrate how it is done with support of facts). Yet three of the links are simply (true to your form) character assassination pieces and the other one simply confirms that a single State medical board (only 1 of 50) deemed that a loss of license (in 1 state) was warranted in relation to what they (and only they) deemed to be unacceptable practices. Hardly compelling stuff and not a single "fact" that addresses any aspect of the study claims.

As for the rest of your turd polishing instruction... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it is even less relevant to the study.

It appears that you are less about genuinely helpful discourse to share your views and contribute to balancing what you see as incorrect information sources by providing valuable factual information, than you are about the underhanded practice of discrediting sources through character assassination.

The need for such shit tactics tells us that you either lack the skills to succinctly present real facts to support your views or the facts that you need to do so don't exist. I don't know you from a bar of soap, but from what I see, I am grateful of that much.

[husaberg]

A genuine bit of nonsense is what it is "Head of New RFK Jr. Vaccine Study Practiced Unlicensed Medicine on Autistic Kids"

Wow! Practicing Unlicensed Medicine.... What does that even mean (for context)?? Here's what the UK Govt have to say about it. https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-update/off-label-or-unlicensed-use-of-medicines-prescribers-responsibilities

The use of medicines outside of any license scope. Kinda like every single time a yet to be licensed medicine is trialed by a pharmaceutical company or University eh! FFS A big fat nothing burger wrapped in glitter for attention. Pffffffft




You allege projection in ignorance of facts then proceed to perform your own projection using links (presumably to illustrate how it is done with support of facts). Yet three of the links are simply (true to your form) character assassination pieces and the other one simply confirms that a single State medical board (only 1 of 50) deemed that a loss of license (in 1 state) was warranted in relation to what they (and only they) deemed to be unacceptable practices. Hardly compelling stuff and not a single "fact" that addresses any aspect of the study claims.

As for the rest of your turd polishing. instruction... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it is even less relevant to the study.

It appears that you are less about genuinely helpful discourse to share your views and contribute to balancing what you see as incorrect information sources by providing valuable factual information, than you are about the underhanded practice of discrediting sources through character assassination.

The need for such shit tactics tells us that you either lack the skills to succinctly present real facts to support your views or the facts that you need to do so don't exist. I don't know you from a bar of soap, but from what I see, I am grateful of that much

Well what can I say to logic like that only in your mind that diminished the fact it was all that was in the articles have not been legally challenged and were based on the criminal records I also attached.... you can call it character assassination if you want....its not going to change the facts they were found guilty of.

That said you really need to be far more carefully with what you because Katman is going to think you are trying to take the title he's had for 20 odd year of being the most pathetic gullible oxygen thief on KB. As a narcissist he does tend to get jealous of those that muscle in on his turf. Or drop his soap in the shower as it were....

[Katman]

Well what can I say to logic like that only in your mind that diminished the fact it was all that was in the articles have not been legally challenged and were based on the criminal records I also attached.... you can call it character assassination if you want....nits not going to change the facts they were found guilty off.

That said you really need to be far more carefully with what you because Katman is going to think you are trying to talked the title he's had for 20 odd year of being the most pathetic gullible oxygen thief on KB. As a narcissist he does tend to get jealous of those that muscle in on his turf. Or drop his soap in the shower as it were....

Is that even English?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Well what can I say to logic like that only in your mind that diminished the fact it was all that was in the articles have not been legally challenged and were based on the criminal records I also attached.... you can call it character assassination if you want....nits not going to change the facts they were found guilty off.

That said you really need to be far more carefully with what you because Katman is going to think you are trying to talked the title he's had for 20 odd year of being the most pathetic gullible oxygen thief on KB. As a narcissist he does tend to get jealous of those that muscle in on his turf. Or drop his soap in the shower as it were....

Someone appears to have been in emo mode and got their fingers and tongue all tangled up huh:yes:

Quite the hot mess.

If your quick, you will edit it before anyone else can see it :laugh:

[husaberg]

Someone appears to have been in emo mode and got their fingers and tongue all tangled up huh:yes:

Quite the hot mess.

If your quick, you will edit it before anyone else can see it :laugh:

Bonez Axhole assringerGTR could never figure out YOU'RE rather than your either.


Is that even English?

is that the way you reminder it......:lol:
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[Katman]

Bonez Axhole GTR could never figure out YOUR'E rather than your either.

:facepalm:

[flyingcrocodile46]

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=5246&attachmentid=356040
:facepalm:

I could lie and say I felt sorry for it when my spy cam showed me what happened to it and decided to throw it a bone.


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[flyingcrocodile46]

Nothing says 'Safe and Effective' like destroying all the data from Australia's giant abandoned vaccine study

https://www.sott.net/article/499064-Nothing-says-Safe-and-Effective-like-destroying-all-the-data-from-Australias-giant-abandoned-vaccine-study

"Follow the science" they say, right up until they destroy it

In August 2021, as the masses were being coerced and cajoled into vaccinations, the government announced a gigantic long term study with 10,000 Australians that would run for five years. They promised they would include the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and generate 100,000 samples, and 11 million datapoints. No stone would be left unturned to make sure the vaccines were safe and effective. "The Science" was being used to reassure the people.

Less than two years later the data must have looked terrible, because they suddenly stopped the study. They muttered something about archiving the data until more funding was available. (Sure, sure). Now, they want to quietly destroy the data and make sure no one can ever use it, or find out the secrets it hides with an FOI application.

[Berries]

Australian Science eh?

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[SaferRides]

Nothing says 'Safe and Effective' like destroying all the data from Australia's giant abandoned vaccine study

https://www.sott.net/article/499064-Nothing-says-Safe-and-Effective-like-destroying-all-the-data-from-Australias-giant-abandoned-vaccine-study

"Follow the science" they say, right up until they destroy it

In August 2021, as the masses were being coerced and cajoled into vaccinations, the government announced a gigantic long term study with 10,000 Australians that would run for five years. They promised they would include the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and generate 100,000 samples, and 11 million datapoints. No stone would be left unturned to make sure the vaccines were safe and effective. "The Science" was being used to reassure the people.

Less than two years later the data must have looked terrible, because they suddenly stopped the study. They muttered something about archiving the data until more funding was available. (Sure, sure). Now, they want to quietly destroy the data and make sure no one can ever use it, or find out the secrets it hides with an FOI application.Funding was stopped in 2023, this step is cleaning up a large number of bio samples which will be costing money to keep in storage.

It is difficult to find any information on the reasons why Queensland Health stopped the study, apart from the conjecture on some websites.

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[R650R]

Funding was stopped in 2023, this step is cleaning up a large number of bio samples which will be costing money to keep in storage.

It is difficult to find any information on the reasons why Queensland Health stopped the study, apart from the conjecture on some websites.

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Just imagine for a minute though what the commercial value of the results would be if they proved MRNA vaccines are safe and side effects are no worse than previously developed vaccines in world history.
This appears to be the new technology moving forward in health industry if you look at where the big investment dollars are flowing.
In terms of safe I mean reassuring the approx third of population that was hesitant about using a new technology inside their bodies. Getting everyone onboard means about doubling your target customer base without need for advertising or legislative assistance. That’s huge in business profits.
I’d estimate an intrinsic value of billions if not a trillion dollars if the data shows the vaccines were safe from such a large scientific study with many other variables also recorded( and current live info available as that states health records are 100% electronic now). Especially if it were to show one manufacturer perhaps had a better product than the others. You’d think big pharma would be falling g over themselves to buy up this data.
Of course perhaps like any other govt program perhaps they messed it up and the data isn’t stored in a meaningful useful way.

[Katman]

Of course perhaps like any other govt program perhaps they messed it up and the data isn’t stored in a meaningful useful way.

Or perhaps the data doesn't show what they wanted it to show.

[husaberg]

Or perhaps the data doesn't show what they wanted it to show.
If that was the case then you will be able to easily show us in the very next post of yours then?
GO on then ;)
here is your chance....
Especially funny as no data is scheduled to be destroyed...:facepalm:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Just imagine for a minute though what the commercial value of the results would be if they proved MRNA vaccines are safe and side effects are no worse than previously developed vaccines in world history.
This appears to be the new technology moving forward in health industry if you look at where the big investment dollars are flowing.
In terms of safe I mean reassuring the approx third of population that was hesitant about using a new technology inside their bodies. Getting everyone onboard means about doubling your target customer base without need for advertising or legislative assistance. That’s huge in business profits.
I’d estimate an intrinsic value of billions if not a trillion dollars if the data shows the vaccines were safe from such a large scientific study with many other variables also recorded( and current live info available as that states health records are 100% electronic now). Especially if it were to show one manufacturer perhaps had a better product than the others. You’d think big pharma would be falling g over themselves to buy up this data.
Of course perhaps like any other govt program perhaps they messed it up and the data isn’t stored in a meaningful useful way.

An excellent post in all respects, except the complete omission of the seemingly obvious likelihood that it was abandoned because early indicators suggested less than favourable results in both effectiveness and safety. Results that did not provide the expected dividends that were discussed above. Cynici$m is not just healthy, but essential in understanding changes pushed by corporations and governments in our increasingly corrupted world.

[Katman]

Especially funny as no data is scheduled to be destroyed.

https://canberradaily.com.au/queensland-government-to-destroy-globally-significant-covid-vaccine-study-biobank/

[pritch]

Nothing says 'Safe and Effective' like destroying all the data from Australia's giant abandoned vaccine study


Appearances suggest that is a load of emotive claptrap written by conspiracy theorists for conspiracy theorists. I had a quick look for confirmation from legitimate news sources but was unable to find much. The story certainly doesn't seem to have caused widespread consternation.

[husaberg]

https://canberradaily.com.au/queensland-government-to-destroy-globally-significant-covid-vaccine-study-biobank/
okay so this post was to broadcast do you know the difference between data which is exactly what you wrote.


Or perhaps the data doesn't show what they wanted it to show.



If that was the case then you will be able to easily show us in the very next post of yours then?
GO on then ;)
here is your chance....
Especially funny as no data is scheduled to be destroyed...:facepalm:
and samples which they are not going to continue to store?

in your own link


“Metro North Health has determined that, for a range of reasons including the many mutations of the COVID-19 virus and similar studies from Australia and worldwide, there is no longer a scientific and public health need to retain these biological samples for future study,” said the letter, sent 19 March 2025.

“Therefore, these samples will be appropriately sterilised and disposed of. All study data collected as part of the QoVAX-SET study will be archived for the specified time-period as required by law,

[SaferRides]

Nothing says 'Safe and Effective' like destroying all the data from Australia's giant abandoned vaccine study

https://www.sott.net/article/499064-Nothing-says-Safe-and-Effective-like-destroying-all-the-data-from-Australias-giant-abandoned-vaccine-study

"Follow the science" they say, right up until they destroy it

In August 2021, as the masses were being coerced and cajoled into vaccinations, the government announced a gigantic long term study with 10,000 Australians that would run for five years. They promised they would include the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and generate 100,000 samples, and 11 million datapoints. No stone would be left unturned to make sure the vaccines were safe and effective. "The Science" was being used to reassure the people.

Less than two years later the data must have looked terrible, because they suddenly stopped the study. They muttered something about archiving the data until more funding was available. (Sure, sure). Now, they want to quietly destroy the data and make sure no one can ever use it, or find out the secrets it hides with an FOI application.A few minutes spent doing a Google search would have found this paper, which is in preprint:
"Adverse Events and Associated Economic Burden of COVID-19 Vaccination in Queensland, Australia: findings from the cross-sectional QoVAX-Statewide study."

Here is a link to the abstract:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385607471_Adverse_Events_and_Associated_Economic_B urden_of_COVID-19_Vaccination_in_Queensland_Australia_findings_fr om_the_cross-sectional_QoVAX-Statewide_study

I won't spoil it for you, except to note that AEFI means Adverse Event Following Immunisation.

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[flyingcrocodile46]

An excerpt from the Whitehouse web site

https://www.whitehouse.gov/lab-leak-true-origins-of-covid-19/
COVID-19 MISINFORMATION:

Public health officials often mislead the American people through conflicting messaging, knee-jerk reactions, and a lack of transparency. Most egregiously, the federal government demonized alternative treatments and disfavored narratives, such as the lab leak theory,
in a shameful effort to coerce and control the American people’s health decisions.
When those efforts failed, the Biden Administration resorted to “outright censorship—coercing and colluding with the world’s largest social media companies to censor all COVID-19-related dissent.”


https://www.whitehouse.gov/lab-leak-true-origins-of-covid-19/

What a shame our own govt aren't as honest

[Katman]

okay so this post was to broadcast do you know the difference between data which is exactly what you wrote.





and samples which they are not going to continue to store?

in your own link

From the Canberra Daily article.


Metro North Health confirmed that the study will be permanently shut down, with all samples and data to be destroyed.

[flyingcrocodile46]

A few minutes spent doing a Google search would have found this paper, which is in preprint:
"Adverse Events and Associated Economic Burden of COVID-19 Vaccination in Queensland, Australia: findings from the cross-sectional QoVAX-Statewide study."

Here is a link to the abstract:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385607471_Adverse_Events_and_Associated_Economic_B urden_of_COVID-19_Vaccination_in_Queensland_Australia_findings_fr om_the_cross-sectional_QoVAX-Statewide_study

I won't spoil it for you, except to note that AEFI means Adverse Event Following Immunisation.

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What a pity it is such a limited study/analysis that barely scratched the surface. No efficacy results or commentary about deaths and other severe side effects such as heart issues etc.

[husaberg]

From the Canberra Daily article.
Only issue is that is actually an opinion of the author ,It is not actually what was quoted from the article as the response to the author from north metro health now is it.
You are clearly wrong.


Canberra Daily asked Metro North Health when the archived data will be destroyed, and whether any of the research done to date will ever be published.

A spokesperson responded:


“Data for the QoVAX project will be stored in accordance with the Queensland Government General Retention and Disposal Schedule, Health Sector (Clinical Records) Retention and Disposal Schedule and Health Sector (Corporate Records) Retention and Disposal Schedule."

[SaferRides]

What a pity it is such a limited study/analysis that barely scratched the surface. No efficacy results or commentary about deaths and other severe side effects such as heart issues etc.Because they didn't happen? It wasn't a large study; you'd probably need a far larger sample to find any serious adverse events.

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[Katman]

only that is actually an opinion of the author ,not what was quoted from the article as the response.

No, it's not an opinion of the author - it's confirmation from Metro North Health.

[husaberg]

No, it's not an opinion of the author - it's confirmation from Metro North Health.
Its clearly not ...............When the author is quoting Metro North health or other sources they use quotation marks you Muppet. Did you miss that?

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[pritch]

A genuine bit of nonsense is what it is "Head of New RFK Jr. Vaccine Study Practiced Unlicensed Medicine on Autistic Kids"

Wow! Practicing Unlicensed Medicine.... What does that even mean (for context)??



So for context? The man does not have a medical degree. He is not a doctor. He was injecting kids with inappropriate drugs basically in the nature of an experiment.

WTF did you think 'practicing unlicensed medicine' meant?

[Katman]

Its clearly not ...............When the author is quoting Metro North health or other sources they use quotation marks you Muppet. Did you miss that?

Not quite sure what part of 'Metro North Health confirmed' you're struggling to understand.

[husaberg]

Not quite sure what part of 'Metro North Health confirmed' you're struggling to understand.

i Struggle with the the bit where you deny reality. The place where you change the the facts quoted and swap in the authors opinion. I find this especially odd where they very clearly categorically state they will be retaining the data in the article you yourself choose as proof.

“Metro North Health has determined that, for a range of reasons including the many mutations of the COVID-19 virus and similar studies from Australia and worldwide, there is no longer a scientific and public health need to retain these biological samples for future study,” said the letter, sent 19 March 2025.


“Therefore, these samples will be appropriately sterilised and disposed of. All study data collected as part of the QoVAX-SET study will be archived for the specified time-period as required by law.”

It's not a surprise for you to do this you do have previous form in being pig ignorant when you are clearly wrong.

Like the time you claimed farmers send 100kg plus rodeo calves to the works when the works don't accept cattle this size.
Or that time you claimed there was numerous alternatives to 1080 on the vast inaccessible areas of NZ ,yet you couldn't name a single one.
Or that time you claimed some animals were poisoned on their own property by 1080, when by the owners own admission, they had wandered into a DOC area.
Or that time you posted a engine (the Geet)that was a well known fraud, that was supposed to run on coffee or water and you refused to admit it was a made up piece of shit. You even called him a modern day telsa when in truth, he said he got the technology from an angel named Mrs Cunningham. He invented nothing other than a new way to scam money of idiots.
Or that time you claimed there were no gas chambers at in German concentration camps, when even the two convicted fraudsters you quoted as being proof, admitted it was obvious there were gas chambers.
Or that time you kept claiming ad nausea, the WTC buildings fell at free-fall speed, when the clearly did not
Or that time you claimed they collapsed into their own footprints when they clearly did not.
Or that time when you quoted state trooper Lyle Szupink as saying something, he clearly did not, about United Airlines Flight 93.
Or that time you claimed over and over that an engine was found to be a distance away from the crash site when it was in fact, found less than a third of that distance.
Or that time you kept claiming passports, were never found intact after a high speed impact like 911, when in fact they commonly are.
Or that time you claimed the UFA investigation was independent , full or transparent, when it was clearly none of these three.
Or that times you repeatedly make and pass on false claims about vaccine and vaccine safety often implying, you know more than genuine medical experts, when you have no medial training at all.
Or that time you claimed it was uncommon for bikes to have footpegs mounted to the swingarm when tens if not 100's of millions of bikes were made in over 120 models with this exact set up.

[flyingcrocodile46]

i Struggle with the the bit where you deny reality. The place where you change the the facts quoted and swap in the authors opinion. I find this especially odd where they very clearly categorically state they will be retaining the data in the article you yourself choose as proof.


It's not a surprise for you to do this you do have previous form in being pig ignorant when you are clearly wrong.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=5246&attachmentid=355718
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=356040&d=1744878361
Like the time you claimed farmers send 100kg plus rodeo calves to the works when the works don't accept cattle this size.
Or that time you claimed there was numerous alternatives to 1080 on the vast inaccessible areas of NZ ,yet you couldn't name a single one.
Or that time you claimed some animals were poisoned on their own property by 1080, when by the owners own admission, they had wandered into a DOC area.
Or that time you posted a engine (the Geet)that was a well known fraud, that was supposed to run on coffee or water and you refused to admit it was a made up piece of shit. You even called him a modern day telsa when in truth, he said he got the technology from an angel named Mrs Cunningham. He invented nothing other than a new way to scam money of idiots.
Or that time you claimed there were no gas chambers at in German concentration camps, when even the two convicted fraudsters you quoted as being proof, admitted it was obvious there were gas chambers.
Or that time you kept claiming ad nausea, the WTC buildings fell at free-fall speed, when the clearly did not
Or that time you claimed they collapsed into their own footprints when they clearly did not.
Or that time when you quoted state trooper Lyle Szupink as saying something, he clearly did not, about United Airlines Flight 93.
Or that time you claimed over and over that an engine was found to be a distance away from the crash site when it was in fact, found less than a third of that distance.
Or that time you kept claiming passports, were never found intact after a high speed impact like 911, when in fact they commonly are.
Or that time you claimed the UFA investigation was independent , full or transparent, when it was clearly none of these three.
Or that times you repeatedly make and pass on false claims about vaccine and vaccine safety often implying, you know more than genuine medical experts, when you have no medial training at all.
Or that time you claimed it was uncommon for bikes to have footpegs mounted to the swingarm when tens if not 100's of millions of bikes were made in over 120 models with this exact set up.

Wow! You really need to get help with you're obsession. :yes:

[Katman]

Wow! You really need to get help with you're obsession. :yes:

If nothing else, he's at least amusing.

[flyingcrocodile46]

If nothing else, he's at least amusing.

How many other Gimps have you spurned and turned into stalkers?

[Katman]

How many other Gimps have you spurned and turned into stalkers?

There's been a fair few over the years, but this one's been by far the most dedicated.

[husaberg]

How many other Gimps have you spurned and turned into stalkers?


There's been a fair few over the years, but this one's been by far the most dedicated.


I have a recurring dream where a gay guy is fucking your dismembered head.

Is that weird or what?
I doubt anyone is really surprised that you two have outed yourselves as being gay raping fudgenudging poo pirates.....
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What team you two are.
One a malignant narcissistic and the other his tiny little narcissistic delusional partner....


Someone appears to have been in emo mode and got their fingers and tongue all tangled up huh


Quite the hot mess.


If your quick, you will edit it before anyone else can see it



Wow! You really need to get help with you're obsession.

I tend to not give a shit about spelling, but you are next level hypocriter

[pritch]

Wow! You really need to get help with you're obsession. :yes:

Wow! You really need to get help with your spelling. :yes:

[jellywrestler]

was the pope vaccinated and full of boosters?

[Pursang]

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[flyingcrocodile46]

Gee I wonder what recent changes might have turbo charged cancers?:rolleyes:

Cancer rising: Investigating the deadly increase in cancers in younger people
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-listener/new-zealand/as-cancer-diagnoses-in-the-under-50s-soar-researchers-are-focusing-on-environmental-and-dietary-causes/C6BWLC5WCZEYTAKL4JXYZJ52DA/

[jellywrestler]

Gee I wonder what recent changes might have turbo charged cancers?:rolleyes:

Cancer rising: Investigating the deadly increase in cancers in younger people
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-listener/new-zealand/as-cancer-diagnoses-in-the-under-50s-soar-researchers-are-focusing-on-environmental-and-dietary-causes/C6BWLC5WCZEYTAKL4JXYZJ52DA/

wrong thread, this is about vaccinations, not that.

[flyingcrocodile46]

wrong thread, this is about vaccinations, not that.

Experts are recognising a possible link between the introduction of the new vaccines and the sudden unexplained 1000% surge in cancers.


From an average of approximately 26,000 cases annually between 2019 and 2021, the numbers surged dramatically, reaching an alarming 297,000 cases in 2023 alone.


Health advocates argue that this sudden spike corresponds with the introduction of COVID-19 vaccines, suggesting a direct link that is being overlooked by mainstream medical authorities.

Those analyzing the situation, including notable oncologists, are describing this phenomenon as "turbo cancer," a term reflecting the increasingly aggressive nature of these cancers among vaccinated individuals.


Doctors are expressing concerns about the implications of these findings. Renowned oncologist Dr. William Makis noted that the financial motives behind the push for mRNA treatments could cloud critical health discussions.

While acknowledging that pharmaceutical manufacturers may be pursuing additional mRNA treatments for cancer, Dr. Makis criticizes the attached costs—estimates suggest treatment could soar to $500,000 per patient.

Furthermore, experts argue that the telemetry of cancer cases calls for an in-depth review of medical practices surrounding vaccinations and health protocols.

With burgeoning evidence suggesting a correlation between the COVID-19 vaccine and a surge in serious health issues, the discussion surrounding government oversight and vaccine efficacy is more critical than ever.

This situation begs the question: are Americans being provided with the full scope of information regarding the COVID-19 vaccines and their potential long-term health effects?

As health agencies strive to prioritize public safety, the alarming statistics present a compelling narrative for a more transparent conversation about vaccines and their implications on women's health in the USA. https://redstateobserver.com/article.asp?id=230290

[pritch]

Experts are recognising a possible link between the introduction of the new vaccines and the sudden unexplained 1000% surge in cancers.


Thanks, but that's one for the window lickers.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Thanks, but that's one for the window lickers.

Watching the frogs croak as they slowly come to the boil :facepalm:

[Katman]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/373989367_COVID-19_vaccine-associated_mortality_in_the_Southern_Hemisphere

[jellywrestler]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/373989367_COVID-19_vaccine-associated_mortality_in_the_Southern_Hemisphere

I can't quite see how safe the latest booster is, haven't got my reading glasses, can you tell me how safe it is please?

[husaberg]

I can't quite see how safe the latest booster is, haven't got my reading glasses, can you tell me how safe it is please?

Here is a paper written to refute on of the papers authors other works.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343263629_A_Complete_Debunking_of_Denis_Rancourt's _Mask_Don't_Work

if you look at some of the papers the authors have contributed to you can see why maynard and zed here are feeding off their own paranoia.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Marine-Baudin
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[Katman]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14687583/warning-cancer-causing-formaldehyde-common-products.html

Guess what else formaldehyde in used in.

[husaberg]

Guess what else formaldehyde in used in.

Taxidermy, Oddly you seem to have previously expressed an obsession with Taxidermy


I have a recurring dream where a gay guy is fucking your dismembered head.


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[pete376403]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14687583/warning-cancer-causing-formaldehyde-common-products.html

Guess what else formaldehyde in used in.


Particle board. Your floor is trying to kill you.

[Katman]

Particle board. Your floor is trying to kill you.

Do you inject particle board?

[husaberg]

Particle board. Your floor is trying to kill you.
Zed has a unique incredibly paranoid perspective on various topics, particularly when it comes to health and medicine. Despite his lack of formal training in the medical field past a first aid badge from boy scouts , he often shares his views on vaccines, emphasising the risks he believes they pose to children. All to often taken from easily disproved conspiracy sites. Interestingly, Zed does not have children of his own and despite his claims against vaccination, vaccinates his pets, which raises questions about the basis of his opinions and the if he has courage to match his convictions. His money certainly never match's his mouth.


When dissolved in water it is called formalin, which is commonly used as an industrial disinfectant and as a preservative in funeral homes and medical labs. It can also be used as a preservative in some products, such as antiseptics, medicines, and cosmetics. Sometimes, even when formaldehyde is not an ingredient in a product, substances that release formaldehyde are. These have been found in cosmetics, soaps, shampoos, lotions and sunscreens, and cleaning products.

While formaldehyde is found naturally in small amounts in some foods (including fruits), it can also be added as a preservative to food, as well as being produced as a result of cooking and smoking.

Foods Containing Formaldehyde:
Fruits: Apples, bananas, grapes, and plums
Vegetables: Onions, carrots, spinach, and cauliflower
Meats: Beef, poultry, and seafood
Fish: Bombay-duck, cod fish
Other: Milk, sugar, and instant coffee
Dried Foods: Dried mushrooms and fish
Drugs Containing Formaldehyde:
Antiseptics and Medicines: Some products may contain formaldehyde as a preservative or disinfectant.
Embalming Fluid: A common use of formaldehyde is in the production of embalming fluid.
Personal Care Products: Some shampoos, lotions, and sunblocks may contain formaldehyde.
Important Considerations:
Natural Occurrence: Formaldehyde is naturally present in many foods at low levels.
Low Concentrations: The amounts of formaldehyde in food are generally considered to be low and pose little risk to human health.

In addition to his views on vaccines, Zed claims to be "a mechanic". However, he struggles with understanding certain rather basic concepts in regards to internal combustion, such as the Geet engine, which is an obvious scam. This highlights his lack of a ability to assess information. Plus his total unwillingness to admit he is wrong when its patently obvious he is.

Its also produced when smoking dope, his fav harmless recreational drug.....
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-63120-6

Dunning and Kruger sure had ol Zed figured out.

[pete376403]

Do you inject particle board? Inhaling the fumes is enough

[Kickaha]

Guess what else formaldehyde in used in.

Alle Dinge sind Gift, und nichts ist ohne Gift; allein die Dosis macht, dass ein Ding kein Gift ist.
All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison.

—Paracelsus, 1538

[husaberg]

Alle Dinge sind Gift, und nichts ist ohne Gift; allein die Dosis macht, dass ein Ding kein Gift ist.
All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison.

—Paracelsus, 1538


Imagine if the KB brains trust caught on all vaccines are likely to contain large amounts of HH monoxide Not minute traces, But large amounts.
The exact same stuff commonly used in biological and chemical weapons manufacture.
The same chemical linked to death due to accidental inhalation of liquid HH monoxide even in small quantities, severe tissue damage caused by prolonged exposure to solid HH monoxide, severe burns from exposure to gaseous HH monoxide, and remember pre-cancerous tumours and lesions largely composed of liquid HH monoxide.

[Laava]

Imagine if the KB brains trust caught on all vaccines are likely to contain large amounts of HH monoxide Not minute traces, But large amounts.
The exact same stuff commonly used in biological and chemical weapons manufacture.
The same chemical linked to death due to accidental inhalation of liquid HH monoxide even in small quantities, severe tissue damage caused by prolonged exposure to solid Hydric Acid, severe burns from exposure to gaseous HH monoxide, and remember pre-cancerous tumours and lesions largely composed of liquid HH monoxide.
Yeah but you can just get that shit off with soap.

[husaberg]

Yeah but you can just get that shit off with soap.
It's ability to emulsify oils in detergents and soaps is just another thing that makes its so potentially lethal, just remember HH monoxide can also cross the blood brain barrier.
KB's most prolific anti vax Karen's considers this to be vitally important based on the amount of times he mentions it.....

[Katman]

https://canberradaily.com.au/doctors-association-concerned-about-covid-19-vaccines-wants-debate/

[Katman]

https://prd-tsn-main-api.s3.amazonaws.com/article/90b4c798-0e0a-46d7-9e7f-79c7f41a4040.pdf

[Katman]

The UK health sector is starting to wake up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14719577/record-NHS-staff-shunned-flu-vaccine.html

[Katman]

And the Americans.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/hearings/the-corruption-of-science-and-federal-health-agencies-how-health-officials-downplayed-and-hid-myocarditis-and-other-adverse-events-associated-with-the-covid-19-vaccines/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKV8FxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEySGhm TlZ0d3Z5ZEFpbnEzAR5a1aw2pBWTKhNke1FCoVWlgi64g4_po3 JaVgaj_zNHmDG6Oul1nxdvHJHUVg_aem_0IuIUhV5keCkH9tx0 W8YRQ

[flyingcrocodile46]

And the Americans.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/hearings/the-corruption-of-science-and-federal-health-agencies-how-health-officials-downplayed-and-hid-myocarditis-and-other-adverse-events-associated-with-the-covid-19-vaccines/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKV8FxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEySGhm TlZ0d3Z5ZEFpbnEzAR5a1aw2pBWTKhNke1FCoVWlgi64g4_po3 JaVgaj_zNHmDG6Oul1nxdvHJHUVg_aem_0IuIUhV5keCkH9tx0 W8YRQ

It is too late Katman. The frogs in this dried up pond are well cooked.:yes:

[Katman]

Died suddenly.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Died suddenly.

In their sleep

[F5 Dave]

It is too late Katman. The frogs in this dried up pond are well cooked.:yes:

So i can't read many posts on this thread, but i assume you are referring to the famous frog being boiled doesn't notice the increase experiment?

Because that was never an experiment. Just like most disinformation it is traded like fact but is a complete myth for about 3 reasons. It's not true on any level.

[Katman]

So i can't read many posts on this thread

Are the words too big for you?

[F5 Dave]

Well I could hit the view post. But I'm not going to because history suggests drivel.

[nerrrd]

It is too late Katman. The frogs in this dried up pond are well cooked.:yes:

And despite being cooked, strangely still alive. It's probably a conspiracy.

[Katman]

And despite being cooked, strangely still alive.

A great number of others haven't been quite so lucky.

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[husaberg]

A great number of others haven't been quite so lucky.
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Do tell us more Zed...

[Katman]

Do tell us more Zed...

Stay tuned.

[Katman]

Further to my post on the previous page.

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[nerrrd]

A great number of others haven't been quite so lucky.

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Weird, because usually I never get lucky.

Like, I've had five numbers twice in lotto, which is about as lucky and simultaneously unlucky as you can get – instant hundred-aire!

[flyingcrocodile46]

COVID Vaccine "Safe and Effective" Narrative Collapses On Camera in Senate hearing

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/covid-vaccine-safe-and-effective-narrative-collapses-camera

[F5 Dave]

I always trust politics to guide me on medical science.
Don't you agree?

[F5 Dave]

Think about it very carefully.

Real facts about court rulings that found vaccines have caused Autism and brain damage. Companies fined and forced to pay compensation.

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/courts-rule-vaccines-containing-mmr-and.html

And a whistle blower (Vaccine creator) who has broken sillence to clear her conscience.
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/lead-gardasil-vaccine-creator-confesses.html

Yet another conspiracy come true http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
Jesus cock sucking christ. Look where this thread came from.

The original mmr causes autism "experiment " was done on twelve children. Twelve.
Also they also had existing conditions.
All of them had the vaccine.
All of them also had breakfast that morning.

No science was done that day.
The report was retracted.

And that was all the shitfest was based on.
Complete bullshit. It gets worse but the initial fact of a study of Twelve should be enough.

I always trust courts of America for my medical science .
.

[Katman]

I always trust politics to guide me on medical science.
Don't you agree?

Did you watch any of the Senate sub committee hearing video?

[F5 Dave]

I can't imagine where you go with that. But rest assured that I'm not going to bother reading your sad old man American social media disinformation.

I think at this stage we say. Baaa.

[Katman]

I think at this stage we say. Baaa.

Hardly surprising.

[husaberg]

I can't imagine where you go with that. But rest assured that I'm not going to bother reading your sad old man American social media disinformation.

I think at this stage we say. Baaa.

Hardly surprising.
Also likely a correct assumption to make based on 20 years of you posting nearly 10000 posts of unproven conspiracy theory twaddle.
None of which have ever been proven to have any legitimate proof then or even now years later......
The closest any of your posts has come to bearing fruit was, when you admitted having homosexual fantasy dreams.


I have a recurring dream where a gay guy is fucking, Is that that weird or not
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Just so we're clear - it's me fucking your dismembered head.

but lets see another of your total shit predictions, rather than your somewhat sexually curious predilections.

They predict that if the current rate of increase continues, by 2030 we'll be at 1 in 2 diagnosed with autism.

So has anyone given any thought to what society is going to be like in the 2030's once every second one of us is autistic?

[F5 Dave]

Last Saturday we want to a friends birthday party who had deceased say 8 months before.
I was saying to my partner that I hoped this gay couple were there. Hope i didn't lay it on too thick when they were (well were all pretty lathered by then).
I guess some guilt was coming out from my younger years.

How things have changed.
Don't fight it. Be who you are.
We will still love you.

Unless you are a cunt.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Denying the current media reports coming out of America (because it conflicts with earlier media reports coming out of America) only serves to highlight a 100% cognitive dissonance:facepalm:

Open your eyes. Pandora’s box is open—and the MAHA crew is bringing a full-blown accountability revolution for what happened during Covid.


Dr. Marty Makary directly named the Biden administration for covering up vaccine injury data during COVID:


“It was part of the Biden medical establishment censorship complex.”


He explained that any information tied to complications or injuries was immediately flagged.


“Any information that related to complications of the vaccines or vaccine injuries was considered ‘Covid vaccine hesitant content’—and so it was censored, blocked, or slow-walked.”


Then came the devastating admission:


“We now have, tragically, this information that the heart inflammation that occurred in young, healthy men and boys was not disclosed as soon as it should have been…”


“And as a result, thousands of kids probably had this myocarditis complication—and didn’t have to have it.”


This is a reckoning.

[Katman]

Another point that seems to be being conveniently forgotten is that the official policy worldwide was to record any death, where the person tested positive for Covid, as a Covid death - regardless of what the actual cause of death was.

The whole Covid saga was built on fraudulent data.

And that fraudulent data still resulted in a 99.8% survival rate for a virus that you all shit your pants over.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Another point that seems to be being conveniently forgotten is that the official policy worldwide was to record any death, where the person tested positive for Covid, as a Covid death - regardless of what the actual cause of death was.

The whole Covid saga was built on fraudulent data.

And:yes: that fraudulent data still resulted in a 99.8% survival rate for a virus that you all shit your pants over.

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

[TheDemonLord]

Another point that seems to be being conveniently forgotten is that the official policy worldwide was to record any death, where the person tested positive for Covid, as a Covid death - regardless of what the actual cause of death was.

The whole Covid saga was built on fraudulent data.

And that fraudulent data still resulted in a 99.8% survival rate for a virus that you all shit your pants over.

I do rather vividly remember when someone pointed this out for the NZ Dataset and certain other people loudly mocked them claiming it was the height of hubris that they thought they knew better than the NZ Government....

Until a week later when the NZ Government revised their reporting practices in line with the critique that said someone had made.

Still the greatest vindication.

[nerrrd]

One percent is still 50,000 deaths in a population of 5,000,000.

Not something the medical establishment, given the current mindset of 'every patient has the right to be treated to the best of our ability' can easily ignore.

[pritch]

Denying the current media reports coming out of America (because it conflicts with earlier media reports coming out of America) only serves to highlight a 100% cognitive dissonance:facepalm:


Nah. Cognitive dissonance is more likely to arise from giving credence to a guy who pumped heroin into his veins for over ten years then tells you vaccines aren't safe.

[flyingcrocodile46]

One percent is still 50,000 deaths in a population of 5,000,000.

Not something the medical establishment, given the current mindset of 'every patient has the right to be treated to the best of our ability' can easily ignore.

How about when you use the correct figure
100% - 99.8% = 0.2% (not 1%).

About the same as the death rate from the common Flu, and even that is overinflated as it is counting all the folk who died with covid rather than from covid.

BTW Co2 is only 0.04% of the atmosphere. That is 4/10th of 1/10th of fuck all.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Nah. Cognitive dissonance is more likely to arise from giving credence to a guy who pumped heroin into his veins for over ten years then tells you vaccines aren't safe.

As you are replying to me, I assume you are alleging that I have mainlined heroin. Which would make you a lying POS (as well as a retard who mainlines GMO).

[nerrrd]

How about when you use the correct figure
100% - 99.8% = 0.2% (not 1%).

About the same as the death rate from the common Flu, and even that is overinflated as it is counting all the folk who died with covid rather than from covid.

BTW Co2 is only 0.04% of the atmosphere. That is 4/10th of 1/10th of fuck all.

Just easier to round up, for data which you yourself say is sketchy.

I've always found it interesting that the atmosphere is only 20% oxygen, but without it, 100% of us would be dead. Makes you think.

[jellywrestler]

Nah. Cognitive dissonance is more likely to arise from giving credence to a guy who pumped heroin into his veins for over ten years then tells you vaccines aren't safe.

have you read the contents of tattoo ink? Bet few have and it was entertaining pointing out this to those with toughie stickers arguing about vaccines,

[Katman]

As you are replying to me, I assume you are alleging that I have mainlined heroin. Which would make you a lying POS (as well as a retard who mainlines GMO).

He's referring to RFK Jr, who has admitted to having a 10 year heroin addiction about 40 years ago.

[mashman]

How about when you use the correct figure
100% - 99.8% = 0.2% (not 1%).

About the same as the death rate from the common Flu, and even that is overinflated as it is counting all the folk who died with covid rather than from covid.

BTW Co2 is only 0.04% of the atmosphere. That is 4/10th of 1/10th of fuck all.

The BAC for being impaired is 0.05% ;)

Interesting that the results of science can be so contestable... almost as if the science isn't highlighting what the same science somehow missed during testing, only finding out afterwards. Gawd, and science is meant to be so pure... when it suits it seems.

[flyingcrocodile46]

The BAC for being impaired is 0.05% ;)

Interesting that the results of science can be so contestable... almost as if the science isn't highlighting what the same science somehow missed during testing, only finding out afterwards. Gawd, and science is meant to be so pure... when it suits it seems.

Science is now a tool (the most useful tool) of politic$. It is as bastardised as the MSM.

[flyingcrocodile46]

For those who may be interested in a simply explained breakdown of the implications of this latest covid vaccine scandal.

"THEY KNEW ABOUT ALL OF IT" and they kept from the American people | Redacted News

https://rumble.com/v6tqocj-they-knew-about-all-of-it-and-they-kept-from-the-american-people-redacted-n.html

[pritch]

As you are replying to me, I assume you are alleging that I have mainlined heroin. Which would make you a lying POS (as well as a retard who mainlines GMO).

You assume wrong. No surprises there. RFK Jr, your guru, the same guy who claims a worm ate part of his brain. He who makes millions from anti-vax nonsense was a heroin addict for something like thirteen years. Some people seem to think he's abusing steroids these days. None of which interests me. Nor does the weird shit he has done with dead animals. It seems he's just a nut job. He can still fool the idiot fringe though.

[jellywrestler]

For those who may be interested in a simply explained breakdown of the implications of this latest covid vaccine scandal.


why don't you pm both the people who actually give a toss?

[husaberg]

He's referring to RFK Jr, who has admitted to having a 10 year heroin addiction about 40 years ago."Odd your missing out the bit when he only admitted addiction after he was prosecuted for possession of heroin. He's admitted to long-term steroid use as well. I am picking you can't fathom or realise that long-term heroin addiction is potential grounds for anyone as a lawyer he defended or prosecuted, to appeal with grounds?" he's a walking red flag anyone that gives any of his crakpot ideas any credence is severely lacking in common sense.
I sincerely doubt if he was not a rampant antivaxer you would suggest he is of sound mind. But as I type this I realise you are pretty thick, hense all the stuff you have posted about 1080 911 and Andrew Wakefeild an the geet engine and all sorts of other totally baseless conspiracy theories.

[flyingcrocodile46]

I believe that the majority of people now know and agree that,
1. We were lied to about the origin of Covid.
2. We were lied to about the lethality of Covid.
3. We were lied to about the efficacy of the Covid testing.
4. We were lied to about the efficacy of the Covid Vaccines.
5. We were lied to about the side effect risks of the Covid vaccines, and that
6. We are still being lied to.

Why on earth would anyone believe what our governments tell us?