Nelson Rideouts - Where next?

[Woodman]

Any of yous keen on heading out to the cross eyed lion with the other repebates

Which weekend? daktari

[JATZ]

Any of yous keen on heading out to the cross eyed lion with the other repebates

Hell yeah.... Cross eyed lion sounds good can't hardly wait....

(where/what is the cross eyed lion ?)

[NordieBoy]

You have started farkling your new fishing rod haven't you?

You make that sound like a question.


:2thumbsup

[NordieBoy]

Hell yeah.... Cross eyed lion sounds good can't hardly wait....

(where/what is the cross eyed lion ?)

Duh!

Everyone point at Jatz for not knowing where the cross eyed lion is!

[Fluffy Cat]

What the frick is a fishing rod????

[Padmei]

Duh!

Everyone point at Jatz for not knowing where the cross eyed lion is!

Lets leave him hanging for a while -Mwahahahaha... Man I love being intteligent

[Padmei]

What the frick is a fishing rod????

It's pronounced fushing FC

[Woodman]

. Man I love being intteligent

Or the least thick?

[Padmei]

Or the least thick?

I'm gonna think about that one & post a really witty response... but don't wait up...

[Padmei]

Anyone wanna help do a valve thingy check. Do I have to turn the bike upside down for this one too?

[NordieBoy]

Anyone wanna help do a valve thingy check. Do I have to turn the bike upside down for this one too?

Shim and bucket or transverse mercator projection?

[JATZ]

Anyone wanna help do a valve thingy check. Do I have to turn the bike upside down for this one too?

Yes ! there's no way you can do it without turning the bike upsidedown, it also helps to have some half inebr, inberi, enibri, pissed onlookers

and a big hammer :D

[NordieBoy]

....and a big hammer :D

and a camera...

[Fluffy Cat]

It also helps to make sure the bike is nice and warmed up before you turn it upside down and check the clearances:laugh:

[Woodman]

You need to invert it to shake the shims out.

I can help, I like helping.

[ZK-Awesome]

Hang on. Didn't I see you two up wearing shorts the other day riding down Collingwood St on a wet road?

Well done for getting the license. Now tell your old man to have a very late midlife crisis & get a bike too.
Nay, never done 2-up since I had my 50. And never ridden in shorts since my 50!

I'm working on the old man, might even try'n twist his arm into buying the GB off me when I upgrade...


Nice one Brock! Good on ya. Not getting a dirt bike then?
I knocked off early from flying today to replace the bearings and seals in my rear wheel and sprocket carrier. Just got to get one more o-ring for the carrier and I'm good to go. Just mounted a new T63 tyre and amping to go for a ride. Pretty happy I was able to do it all myself. Anyone give me some tips on breaking it in before I go to hard out on the road? I love to lean it over but have never owned a new tyre before so not so sure how to go about it. Would taking it for a gravel ride scrub it in?


Amber

Howdy amber, long time no speak! I'm sticking to the road bikes I think, gravel freaks me out a bit still!

I'm keeping the 250 until something jumps out at me - probably go the sports-tourer way, RF400 sorta thing, otherwise GS500 or Bros 400? My riding is pretty much just riding to work and pootling the highways & backroads.

VFR400's look good but I'm kinda weary about the complex v4 engine -supposed to be very reliable with good maintenance, but bad news $$ wise if it goes bang. I got off lucky when the GB went bang.

Jebus this thread moves quickly!

[warewolf]

Anyone wanna help do a valve thingy check. Do I have to turn the bike upside down for this one too?

Only if you don't have the luxury exhaust and need a new powerband and the mid-range fluid changing as well.

[Padmei]

Only if you don't have the luxury exhaust and need a new powerband and the mid-range fluid changing as well.

Oh man I'm in over my head again.

Looks like it'll have to be a shed (or out in the open on the driveway) nite round our place with some beers & cheerful bantering soon. What's best with whoever wants to come? Fri nite? or mid week?

[Willdat?]

Well done Brock, you can stay later at shed nights now!

I confess I also don't know WTF or whereTF the crossed eyed lion is...

I'm apparently going to have my bike back by the end of the week...just in time for the baby I'm sure which is apparently pretty happy where it is.

So I'd be keen as for a shed night at yours Padmei, but the likelihood of me getting there is looking slimmer by the day!

[warewolf]

Happy to help but no time for the next week or so. Tekapo prep tonight, Tekapo fri-sat-sun.

[Underground]

I confess I also don't know WTF or whereTF the crossed eyed lion is...


Pfffft.... everyone knows where that is .

[Padmei]

Clarence was the cross eyed lion out of Daktari, an African TV show in the 70's. Judy was the chimp. Anyway I thought I'd tootle over & have a looksie on the 6th Feb. Will confirm later. failing that i might do a 1 day cruise thru Molesworth, Rainbow if anyone's keen on having a jaunt.

[JATZ]

Clarence was the cross eyed lion out of Daktari, an African TV show in the 70's. Judy was the chimp. Anyway I thought I'd tootle over & have a looksie on the 6th Feb. Will confirm later. failing that i might do a 1 day cruise thru Molesworth, Rainbow if anyone's keen on having a jaunt.

Hmmmm Clarence huh, might be worth a look

I'll have to think about the other one though :scratch:

[NordieBoy]

Clarence or Molesworth/Rainbow both sound good.

The ChChCh guys are looking at a 9am meet at Kaikoruara...

[Underground]

Ohh ... that cross eyed lion .
i'll be up for a ride to clarence , might have to stay over , 9am Kaikoura is a bit of a stretch from here.

[Howie]

Anyone wanna help do a valve thingy check. Do I have to turn the bike upside down for this one too?

HI Padmei, there is a photo walk through descripiton of doing a valve adjustment on the older model KLR here, that I found useful when I did mine a few months ago. http://www.klr650.marknet.us/valves.html
You can also download and print it as a pdf file by following the links on the left. lots of other useful pictorials for KLR procedures too.

Cheers

Paul

[Padmei]

HI Padmei, there is a photo walk through descripiton of doing a valve adjustment on the older model KLR here, that I found useful when I did mine a few months ago. http://www.klr650.marknet.us/valves.html
You can also download and print it as a pdf file by following the links on the left. lots of other useful pictorials for KLR procedures too.

Cheers

Paul

Thanks for that Paul. I have the clymer manual which is very good too.I like a bit of hand holding when going into unknown territory....

[Fluffy Cat]

Errr... what time are we going to have to get up to get to this Clarence thang?.....as I will have to put the XR to bed early.

[umopom]

Going over with the boy the night before (not road registered) and staying in backpackers on the Friday night - will post best options when I've worked it out.
Cheers
JC

[clint640]

G'day you lot!

Me & Rosie are sailing south for a wee ride on the 13th Feb & staying in Nelson that night, might be up for a ride/beer with a few of the locals. Planning to head to Karamea to camp on the 14th, then make our way down to the adv rally via ChCh etc etc over the week.

Cheers
Clint

[Padmei]

G'day you lot!

Me & Rosie are sailing south for a wee ride on the 13th Feb & staying in Nelson that night, might be up for a ride/beer with a few of the locals. Planning to head to Karamea to camp on the 14th, then make our way down to the adv rally via ChCh etc etc over the week.

Cheers
Clint

Hey guys I'll be down in Westport that weekend for the Buller 1/2 & will be doing a quick trip to Karamea & hopefully Denniston. May catch up with you down there.
craig

[Woodman]

Went for a wee tootle up sharlands this arvo and they seem to be doing a lot of logging up there now and buggering up a lot of the tracks, mind you they are making new ones too. One of these new tracks i thought i would follow as it looked like a good way home:no:. part way down I knew there was no going back up it so in full control:no: I got to the bottom of a steep valley. i went up every sidetrack trying to find a way out and every one was blocked or just too steep.:shit:. Anyway I ended up riding into the back of the rifle range and thought aha a way out, but the gate was locked.
Tried a couple of hills to get out but one had a tree blocking it and the other looked way too steep, but i was desperate to get home so tried anyway. It was going quite well but I had to back off cos the klr was about to flip (didn't know that was possible) so laid her down and walked to the top to see if I could see a way out. I was knackered so took me gear off and tried to ride down but high sided and rolled down the hill and the bike was upside down leaking fluids everywhere. managed to turn it round and get going and eventually found a horrible track out. On the way home my rear brake didn't work, and upon investigation the whole rear was covered in oil from when the oil leaked out through the breather when bike was inverted and out the drain and over the rear disc.
so be careful up there cos its all changed
I am now shattered

[Fluffy Cat]

Mahnn!...that sounded like fun, next time give me a ring. So I can get the XRR out and crash it. As it was I took the SP1 out and spent some time talking to the boys in blue....hehe!.

[marks]

Went for a wee tootle up sharlands this arvo and I am now shattered

where are the photos

we must have photos

post photos NOW

[umopom]

Going over with the boy the night before (not road registered) and staying in backpackers on the Friday night - will post best options when I've worked it out.
Cheers
JC

Clarence Sat 6th feb - booked backpackers in KiaOra for Fri night - seems to be plenty of space at the moment, no whales??? Let me know if you are planning to do the same.
Cheers
JC

[Eddieb]

where are the photos

we must have photos

post photos NOW

+1kazzilion. You can't post a report like that without pics.

[Howie]

Clarence Sat 6th feb - booked backpackers in KiaOra for Fri night - seems to be plenty of space at the moment, no whales??? Let me know if you are planning to do the same.
Cheers
JC

Which back packers in Kaikoura is that, and do they have secure/ off street parking? Oh and what sort of price are we talking, I'm looking at Fri and Sat nights in Kaikoura. then back up the Molesworth to catch the 6.00pm ferry on Sunday.

[veny]

where are the photos

we must have photos

post photos NOW

It's like one of those dreaded, "To be continued next week...", episodes.
The VCR is set and waiting... :)

[Woodman]

where are the photos

we must have photos

post photos NOW

yea I know bad form on my part, but the truth is I did think about it but that would have meant digging for the camera at one stage cos it was sorta buried in dirt. I have my camera strapped to the handlebar cross bar. The other eason was at the time my mood was not that good, I might have even swore once.

Will do better next time (photos not riding).

[NordieBoy]

yea I know bad form on my part, but the truth is I did think about it but that would have meant digging for the camera at one stage cos it was sorta buried in dirt. I have my camera strapped to the handlebar cross bar. The other eason was at the time my mood was not that good, I might have even swore once.

Will do better next time (photos not riding).

You need your own personal photographer/videographer following you...

[Willdat?]

You need your own personal photographer/videographer following you...

And we all know just the man to do it!

[Woodman]

You need your own personal photographer/videographer following you...

not a good idea with bart syndrome

[Padmei]

Woodman you deserve a medal for that ride. It's actually way easier to get out off that track with a mountainbike.

[Padmei]

Any locals got a 17 knobblie they want to sell cheap for the CCA. Otherwise might try one of the $54 jobbies from T7. Any place local that has cheapies? i'm gonna get a new 606 for the front as they are great & last a while.
Thanks in advance.

[NordieBoy]

A 500km old MT21 rear OK?

Only done a beach race and the Clarence.

If I do do the CCA it'll be with the Kenda 760 rear in the shed and it'll be bald getting back from Picton to home...

[Fluffy Cat]

You really did not like that tyre.

[Woodman]

Anyone wanna go for a wee evening hoon somewhere? Shame to waste these long summer evenings me thinks.
Possibly Thursday but i am flexible. Hori bay and back spins my wheels if anyone is keen.
Meet at rock wall at 6 and go through central road or over whangamoas?

Open to suggestions as always though.

[JATZ]

I was gunna head out Hori bay for an evening ride. Prolly @ the w/end though, take the surfcaster and make a night of it.I was discussing a mid week ride with UMOPom, maybe do the Old Coach, Jacobs, Dovedale thing with a pizza in Wakefield, or reverse the route and finish in Mapua, any takers ?
Padmei..... I have a half worn Kenda trackmaster here, your more than welcome to finish it off. I won't cause I can't stand the thing

[Woodman]

I was gunna head out Hori bay for an evening ride. Prolly @ the w/end though, take the surfcaster and make a night of it.I was discussing a mid week ride with UMOPom, maybe do the Old Coach, Jacobs, Dovedale thing with a pizza in Wakefield, or reverse the route and finish in Mapua, any takers ?
Padmei..... I have a half worn Kenda trackmaster here, your more than welcome to finish it off. I won't cause I can't stand the thing

Ok yours sounds good and is sorta half organized. What night?

[NordieBoy]

You really did not like that tyre.

No, no, I love it...
Really...







:angry2:

[NordieBoy]

I have a half worn Kenda trackmaster here, your more than welcome to finish it off. I won't cause I can't stand the thing

Now that's a rear tyre I actually like :wacko:

[NordieBoy]

Evening ride sounds good...

[JATZ]

Thursday ?
What direction ?
Meet @ Mapua or Richmond ?

or should I take the initiative and just say where and when ?

[warewolf]

I'm up for an evening some time, need to take a break from working!!

[Padmei]

In I am ride this type i like. good thursday nite me for

[Willdat?]

DR might be ready by then...:yawn:

But baby not so much! ;)

[umopom]

Hi JATZ
Thursday would be good - just fix a time and place and I'm sure we will all be there!!
Cheers
JC


Thursday ?
What direction ?
Meet @ Mapua or Richmond ?

or should I take the initiative and just say where and when ?

[JATZ]

Right.... 3 bros corner, 5:30 ish.Thurs night. Reverse loop of the usuall route, ending at the Tap, Mapua.

Organizers decision is final and no correspondence will be entered into :D
The organizer reserves the right to change this post at will AND willy nilly.
Ride may be cancelled at short notice due to rain or something else equally as horrible.
The organizer is not responsible.
Enter at your own risk.
Don't forget to read the small print

See who ever there then...:wavey:

this is the small print...... I see you are reading it, well done

[umopom]

Will be there.
Cheers
JC


Right.... 3 bros corner, 5:30 ish.Thurs night. Reverse loop of the usuall route, ending at the Tap, Mapua.

Organizers decision is final and no correspondence will be entered into :D
The organizer reserves the right to change this post at will AND willy nilly.
Ride may be cancelled at short notice due to rain or something else equally as horrible.
The organizer is not responsible.
Enter at your own risk.
Don't forget to read the small print

See who ever there then...:wavey:

this is the small print...... I see you are reading it, well done

[junkmanjoe]

can i come along please.............


JMJ

[JATZ]

can i come along please.............


JMJ

Yip.... the more the merryerer :D

your buyin the first round though pal :yes:

[junkmanjoe]

oh yea,,,i do owe you a beer and a piza aye mate..

have fun chaps..

JMJ

[Woodman]

Yip c ewes there. Might take the bike to work to save a bit of time.

[Willdat?]

Well assuming the DR never gets going I may still be getting back on a bike...Father-In-Laws 7 (or 12 I can't remember when I looked a couple of years ago) 000km GB400 has been offered to me as he doesn't really use it! Will be coming down from Palmerston North in the next few months :yes:

[warewolf]

Take care out there:

Fishing-line traps laid across roads (http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/3311907/Fishing-line-traps-laid-across-roads)

[JATZ]

Take care out there:

Fishing-line traps laid across roads (http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/3311907/Fishing-line-traps-laid-across-roads)

Now thats just plain nasty, and stupid.:crazy::eek5:

Good to hear you may be mobile again soon WillDat, shame it's not on "your" bike:woohoo:

Good ride last night, didn't rain at all and there was no dust either. Some of us got abused :angry2: by a mountain biker on the Dovedale saddle, silly prick thought he owned the road, and umopom showd us locals a wee side track down off the top of Rosedale saddle. Nice view from the top too.
Beer, food and company were also good at the Tap.

[NordieBoy]

I forgot about the ride :(

[Woodman]

The mountainbike guy abused me for sitting on my bike (with engine off ) well off the road. Told me between swear words that there are "other road users too yoiu know". It took a fair bit of self control not to roost him. Anyway he was on a mountainbike so he has the moral high ground.

ride was good and next time I will get the small pizza.

[Fluffy Cat]

Mahhn...you guys ok?....that MTB rider sounded mean....What did you do to him?. Is it going to be in the Nelson Mail??? Eh...Eh???
Were you all wearing your patches.......

[warewolf]

I was planning to go, but work got in the way :(

[JATZ]

I'm surprised he saw us at all actually, don't know how he did it with his head stuck that far up his arse. :D
A little side note: I stopped on the Maungatap the other day to find out what the story was with a heap of MTBers going up the track right on dusk; stopped the bike, took helmet off, said "hello" and the tosser rode straight past, woulda roosted 'im but I was slowing for a corner when I went past him again
Any hoo, turns out it was some sort of big race type thingy, woulda been easier with a motor on the bike,

[NordieBoy]

Any hoo, turns out it was some sort of big race type thingy, woulda been easier with a motor on the bike,

So where did you get?

Podium?

[JATZ]

Nah, disqualified :doh:....... not enough lycra :D

[clint640]

Hi All, despite the usual road in being closed Rosie & I have made it to Nelson, have decided to go for a ride over to Takaka & up the Cobb tomorrow. Anybody else keen? We'll stay in Nelson tomorrow night too then head out to Karamea on Monday. Will check back on here later this evening.

Cheers
Clint

[NordieBoy]

Hi All, despite the usual road in being closed Rosie & I have made it to Nelson, have decided to go for a ride over to Takaka & up the Cobb tomorrow. Anybody else keen?

If I can get out of finishing building the chook house, I'm in.

What time, from where?

[JATZ]

Gaaaaah, only half finished putting the vapour in the DR.(dash, Nordie.....dash, before you make a smart comment)
I could tag along on the Triumph, if you don't mind being seen with a "roadie"
Mrs Jatz could join us too, if shee can rustle up a bike

What time ? I/we would hook up at the Riwaka pub

[NordieBoy]

Gaaaaah, only half finished putting the vapour in the DR.(dash, Nordie.....dash, before you make a smart comment)

I've got to dash where?

Run, Spot, run.

[JATZ]

I've got to dash where?

Run, Spot, run.

:angry2: You really are impossible Nordie :D

Hope ya chickens get out and roost in ya bedroom :bleh:

[warewolf]

I'm in, but can't get away from Nelson till about 9.30... got to change a tyre and do a couple of other little jobs b4 I go. Bike is still in trail-ride trim.

[clint640]

Righto, we have a plan, meeting up at the house of Warewolf 9:30, give me a call 027 212 4485 or see ya there.

Cheers
Clint

[NordieBoy]

That was fun.

The trip back over the hill was brilliant. I kept hitting the traffic at places I could easily pass.
From the hill to home was sooooo slow as I caught up to the rest of the 60 in a 100 zone traffic...

So it was Jatz & Mrs Jatz on the Trumpy, Warewolf on the 640A&E, Clint on the 640E, Rosie on the Supertanker Sherpa, umopom on the 690E and me on the DR.

Is orange the new black?

Good to finally meet Rosie & Clint and I still haven't got the chicken coop done :(

[JATZ]

Soooo you guys didn't get to Takakaka then ? We waited at the power house, had a coffee, kicked some clods then pootled into town for a milkshake. Met UMoPom just as we were leaving.
I left MrsJatz on top of the hill on the way home :devil2:she was talking to some harley riders..................
Came home and got the truck to winch some guys Buell back up onto the road, he'd parked it in a tree down a bank. Damn, bikes are awkward when the only thing holding the front together is the dash wires.
Nice to meet you Clint and Rosie, although it was only briefly :D

[Padmei]

I'm surprised he saw us at all actually, don't know how he did it with his head stuck that far up his arse. :D
A little side note: I stopped on the Maungatap the other day to find out what the story was with a heap of MTBers going up the track right on dusk; stopped the bike, took helmet off, said "hello" and the tosser rode straight past, woulda roosted 'im but I was slowing for a corner when I went past him again
Any hoo, turns out it was some sort of big race type thingy, woulda been easier with a motor on the bike,

I've had it trying to be nice to people - all people out there really. Road cyclists have a rep of being stuck up & yep pretty true (used to race roadies with Wheelers). Mountainbikers have a deluded sense of laidback coolness & comaradery. After riding past & with so many riders & not even getting a nod or acknowledgement when greeting them with a G'day or smile I just put on my race face & become as disaffected as they are. Sad really...

Anyway a couple of friends were doing that race over the maunga. It was part of the Kiwi Brevet. 1200kms over a minimum of 4 days with a minimum of 4hrs sleep each nite. It ran Blenheim to Blenheim via Port Undewear, Queen charl. , Munga, lake Rotoiti, Reefton, Big River area, moana, Hawarden way, Molesworth back to Blenheim. They all carried SPOTs so following the event was quite easy.

The reason he didn't stop (well aprt from being an arrogant arsehole) was he would have been shitting himself coming down on his cyclocross bike with cantilever brakes:crazy:

I'm back from Westport after the Buller half & glad to be home. Westport may have some amazing riding but jeez it really is a depressing shithole. man I love Nelson.
Any one want to do a trip out to Hori bay one evening? - They're starting to get shorter:weep:

[Padmei]

Came home and got the truck to winch some guys Buell back up onto the road, he'd parked it in a tree down a bank. :D

So it came up looking betterer than it did before it went down there?

[JATZ]

I've had it trying to be nice to people - all people out there really. Road cyclists have a rep of being stuck up & yep pretty true (used to race roadies with Wheelers). Mountainbikers have a deluded sense of laidback coolness & comaradery. After riding past & with so many riders & not even getting a nod or acknowledgement when greeting them with a G'day or smile I just put on my race face & become as disaffected as they are. Sad really...

Anyway a couple of friends were doing that race over the maunga. It was part of the Kiwi Brevet. 1200kms over a minimum of 4 days with a minimum of 4hrs sleep each nite. It ran Blenheim to Blenheim via Port Undewear, Queen charl. , Munga, lake Rotoiti, Reefton, Big River area, moana, Hawarden way, Molesworth back to Blenheim. They all carried SPOTs so following the event was quite easy.

The reason he didn't stop (well aprt from being an arrogant arsehole) was he would have been shitting himself coming down on his cyclocross bike with cantilever brakes:crazy:

I'm back from Westport after the Buller half & glad to be home. Westport may have some amazing riding but jeez it really is a depressing shithole. man I love Nelson.
Any one want to do a trip out to Hori bay one evening? - They're starting to get shorter:weep:
Interestin post Padwan
Ummm. actually I suspect he didn't stop 'cause he was arrogant and maybe didn't want to break his cadence (?) going up hill, it wasn't that steep anyway.On the upside though we did have a bit of a chat to some at the summit, nice people, planning on touring south america on m/bikes.
I've found the same sort of arrogant attitude with a few/lot of 4wders for some reason, I could go on but it's not the time or place for it :D
I'd be up for a trip to Hori Bay perhaps. Must put the bike back together first

[JATZ]

So it came up looking betterer than it did before it went down there?

I reeeeeealy wanted to take a pic, but the victim might have taken a dim view of that. Poor guy had no insurance either, and his wife had pranged his sportster around xmas time

[NordieBoy]

I reeeeeealy wanted to take a pic, but the victim might have taken a dim view of that. Poor guy had no insurance either, and his wife had pranged his sportster around xmas time

So he's single and has no bike now...

[NordieBoy]

I apologise in advance for the amount of orange...

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[warewolf]

Great day out, despite staying out later than planned... by about 6 hours :)


Soooo you guys didn't get to Takakaka then ?clint640, rosie! and myself peeled off the SH at East Takaka Rd, then decided to head out to Pohara for lunch at the beach, courtesy of Rosie's panniers. You must've been heading south on the SH at that time. After a leisurely lunch watching the Bay we scooted in to Takaka for go-juice, thence back over the Hill to Monkey Wizard brewery. Rosie copped the overtakers from hell and made virtually no progress through the traffic for the entire up 'n' over, poor girl! The downside of a small bike unfortunately. After the recent top end refresh, and still running short trail gearing spinning 5000rpm @ 100km/h, the 640A was passing stuff effortlessly :D and still returned better than 5.0 L/100km for the day!!

Clint & Rosie sampled some bevvies and bought some takeaways as the brewery doesn't have an on-licence, then we kept going to the Moutere Inn and had a pleasant round of Mussel Inn's Captain Cooker Manuka beer. Fitting given that while we were lunching, my cell phone was connected to the Collingwood site. ;) Trivia: the Moutere has had 120 different beers since opening on 14/10/2008.

I have to say, I'm not used to a measly 200+km touring range from the 12L E tank, and the seat is a shocker for touring! But oh so wonderful for trail riding, when you want a narrow tank and low seat height.

Nice to catch up with the norfern pair, and the rest of youse. :woohoo: There's quite a few side tracks up the Cobb that would be worthy of exploring.

[NordieBoy]

There's quite a few side tracks up the Cobb that would be worthy of exploring.

They are :D

[Woodman]

I'm back from Westport after the Buller half & glad to be home. Westport may have some amazing riding but jeez it really is a depressing shithole. man I love Nelson.
Any one want to do a trip out to Hori bay one evening? - They're starting to get shorter:weep:

very keen on a evenening ride. just name the time.

[JATZ]

There's quite a few side tracks up the Cobb that would be worthy of exploring.

Still havn't gone riding into Barons flat yet either.......

[umopom]

Any one want to do a trip out to Hori bay one evening? - They're starting to get shorter:weep:[/QUOTE]

Yes - not too many evenings left so please count me in - last week was good and not been to Hori bay yet.
Cheers
JC

[Padmei]

OK. For those that are interested in a blat out there, is there any night that does not work?

I'm thinking either Thurs or Fri nite this week. I'm thinking around 6ish?

Could be persuaded to put a few pizzas or fush & chups on out here on the way back...
Failing that a wekend jaunt could be on the cards

[Woodman]

OK. For those that are interested in a blat out there, is there any night that does not work?

I'm thinking either Thurs or Fri nite this week. I'm thinking around 6ish?

Could be persuaded to put a few pizzas or fush & chups on out here on the way back...
Failing that a wekend jaunt could be on the cards

At this stage I am pretty good anytime.

[JATZ]

OK. For those that are interested in a blat out there, is there any night that does not work?

I'm thinking either Thurs or Fri nite this week. I'm thinking around 6ish?

Could be persuaded to put a few pizzas or fush & chups on out here on the way back...
Failing that a wekend jaunt could be on the cards

Friday would prolly suit us betterer, then we can stay out late :D and we be coming over on wednesday anyway, and prolly sat or sun too

[junkmanjoe]

Padmei was here.................................

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/cmg-2/IMG_2081Medium.jpg

JMJ

[marks]

Padmei was here.................................JMJ

damn klr's - when they hit 5000 in 4th they tend to flip like that

[Padmei]

Padmei was here.................................

JMJ

Damn I would be proud to get my bike up there!! I did once leave my bro's bike verticaly hanging from a bank.

My bikes got the crash bars - would be able to get that much elevation:pinch:

[NordieBoy]

Wed/Thurs weather looks dodgy. Fri looks good.

[NordieBoy]

Anyone going anywhere this evening?

Hori Bay?

[Amz]

Yeah anything going?

[JATZ]

Yeah anything going?

Guess not :zzzz:

Goin to try and catch a fish this w/end. Could be up for something next week though :woohoo:

[Woodman]

Anyone going anywhere this evening?

Hori Bay?

I spent the afternoon up there doing some exploeing. Found some new roads/tracks/hills . There is another beach north of hori bay that i just couldn't manage to get too, and believe me I tried.

Took some pics but having issues uploading them

[NordieBoy]

I spent the afternoon up there doing some exploeing. Found some new roads/tracks/hills . There is another beach north of hori bay that i just couldn't manage to get too, and believe me I tried.

Took some pics but having issues uploading them

Kokaroa ?

[Woodman]

Figured out how to put pics in.

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[NordieBoy]

I'm heading out to Hori Bay this afternoon probably just after lunch (high tide 2:20pm).
Taking the fushing pole and seeing how a road rear and knobbly front go in the gravel.

Need to test the tyres as I'm going to Hanmer on the 5th and doing the Clarence on the 6th and back to Hanmer and Jenni and I are coming back via the Molesworth on the 7th.

[Woodman]

I'm heading out to Hori Bay this afternoon probably just after lunch (high tide 2:20pm).
Taking the fushing pole and seeing how a road rear and knobbly front go in the gravel.

Need to test the tyres as I'm going to Hanmer on the 5th and doing the Clarence on the 6th and back to Hanmer and Jenni and I are coming back via the Molesworth on the 7th.

I cannae make it but there is an awful lot of weed in the water.

[NordieBoy]

I cannae make it but there is an awful lot of weed in the water.

Damn hippies.

[Padmei]

I'm heading out to Hori Bay this afternoon probably just after lunch (high tide 2:20pm).
Taking the fushing pole and seeing how a road rear and knobbly front go in the gravel.

Need to test the tyres as I'm going to Hanmer on the 5th and doing the Clarence on the 6th and back to Hanmer and Jenni and I are coming back via the Molesworth on the 7th.

CCA too?
ftcr

[Padmei]

Sorry chaps my energy levels ran out towards the end of the week - and with it my motivation.:yawn:
gotta go anzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[NordieBoy]

CCA too?
ftcr

CCA is a maybe now.
It's either the CCA or fork out $100 odd more and get the GSX400 engine...

I like engines...

[NordieBoy]

Went off through Sharlands, Central, and Slaters Roads up to the Whangamoas and through to Hori Bay.
Lost a hook, leader, sinker but kept the swivel :D

Decided catching moments was more fun.

Hori Bay.
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20100220%20Hori%20Bay/slides/20100220-144946-0001.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20100220%20Hori%20Bay/slides/20100220-151613-0007.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20100220%20Hori%20Bay/slides/20100220-151958-0019.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20100220%20Hori%20Bay/slides/20100220-152911-0030.jpg

Hung a left coming out from Hori Bay and overlooked Kokoroa and linked it up with the other side via firebreaks.

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20100220%20Hori%20Bay/slides/20100220-155005-0035.jpg

The rest are HERE (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20100220%20Hori%20Bay/index.html).

The Avon Gripster rear was fine (20psi) and the very worn E-07 front (18psi) was a little washy.

I think the Gripster combined with the good MT21 front will be sweet for the Clarence/Molesworth.
Not to mention much better on the seal...

[Woodman]

so did you find a way to kokoroa??

[NordieBoy]

so did you find a way to kokoroa??

Not going to attempt it with road tyres.
Also from what I remember of the place (1986) You'd end up on the wrong side of the estuary.

[Padmei]

in the water?

[Padmei]

Finally did the ride I've been meaning to finish. Hooking up the circuit thru Hira forest from bobs fern to Teal saddle via the majority of rideable (for me) firebreaks & trails.
I only saw one other bike out there & a few Mtbers. Nice!
I was feeling so good I rode that short bit of off camber track off Maitai Face rd where I previously did the beautiful back somersault off the side. It has been my nemisis every time I ride past it. I got up the first time with no problems then made myself go down & try it again to face my demons. Made it up twice but it is still a piece of crap to ride:mellow:

Still couldn't find where Linton Hill joins on but will google earth it later

[NordieBoy]

After going up the off camber bits basically keep taking the first rights for a while...

[Padmei]

Looked out the window this morning & Mt Arthur looked so clear I had tell the boss to go to hell & went for a blast up to the carpark.
Went thru Rosedale - past Jen's butt clenching corner- ( Um... she clenched her own butt - not mine- but not literally with her hands but you know.... Just wanted to clear that up ...ah um I think I did)

Anyway what's important is that the undulations up the road were bad. I think the rear wheel caught traction every 3rd stutter bump. Heaps of touros up there crapping in the bushes.
Nice way to ease into the weekend.

[Padmei]

Anyone fancy a blat around the forest about 1.30pmish?

[NordieBoy]

Anyone fancy a blat around the forest about 1.30pmish?

Quite possible.

If I get the lawn mowed...
And the new furniture picked up...

[Padmei]

1.45 at shar3ands 5f any6ne wants a b3at. 0eet5ng w66d0an there.

[NordieBoy]

Well that was a laugh.

I think I over corrected a bit going up that last high point and my forearm is a bit tender but all good.

How are the legs Woodman?
At the very first bump on the very first hill Woody lost a footpeg :D and kept going for the rest of the ride.

[Padmei]

That was an awesome ride. We might have to organise a better organised organised ride thru the Forest for those interested.
Nordie showed us how to ride up & down steep hills with road tyres, Woodman showed us how to ride up & down steep hills with one leg & I showed them how to drop your bike on a reasonably flat piece of ground turning around.

BTW the first "bump" was a metre high kicker going up Hurricane hill. Air was gained

[Woodman]

Yes fun was had and a lot of fluid was lost in the heat. You know, riding with one foot on the passenger peg feels very stylish, almost camp if i am honest.
Got home and checked the othe side and it isn't far off breaking either.

It certainly is a good area to test and hone your skills aye.

[Amz]

Has anyone ridden up to Flora Hut on their motorbike. Was going to on my mountain bike but figure a powered one might be funner. I know DOC try to shoo you out if you have a pushy so they would be ropeable on the noisy one (haha - as they dismount from their 4x4). But it is a legal paper road isnt it? Certainly is a two wheel track to the Hut.

[CrazyFrog]

Has anyone ridden up to Flora Hut on their motorbike. Was going to on my mountain bike but figure a powered one might be funner. I know DOC try to shoo you out if you have a pushy so they would be ropeable on the noisy one (haha - as they dismount from their 4x4). But it is a legal paper road isnt it? Certainly is a two wheel track to the Hut.

You can ride to the Flora carpark, but not passed the locked gate to the actual hut 3km away. Yes, MTB's are allowed, but not motos. The track is sweet right through to the Gridiron shelters, shame we can't go there.
I've MTB'd thru to the Salisbury Hut and across the Tablelands back to the Cobb a few years back, as well as the other track linking to Asbestos Hut. Bit of bike carrying over some techy bits, def not for motos, DOC would hang and quarter you if they caught ya in there.

[Amz]

Sweet, mountain bike it is then. cheers crazyfrog

[Padmei]

Take it in the car upto the carpark though aye Amz... Many tourists up there at the mo & they're not used to those kinds of roads. I went up last Fri on the moto & carpark was nearly 1/2 full. i've been forced off the road before on my moto going up there.

[Amz]

Oh OK. Does the track look something like this. http://www.youtube.com/v/gsYNFhO6c8g
Been a while since I last went up there and we walked to Flora with torches.

[Padmei]

Mate that vid has now surfaced on 3 differebt threads. Great tho. But to answer your question it is way way narrower & scarier - even got Keas that grab your seat while you're crapping your pants.

[Padmei]

Anyone up for another forest foray next sunday avo? Same kind of things as last times fun, wheelspins broken bits...

[JATZ]

at this stage I'll be a starter, the boy'll prolly come too

[Fluffy Cat]

I was in the forest and missed you guys. Guess it's such a small place:yes:

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[NordieBoy]

West Branch of the Wairoa Gorge this weekend anyone?

There may be someone available to show us around...

[Fluffy Cat]

Sorry would like to but working...Just been up the Maungatapu and met the Nelmac boys on the way down. They have put a wire across the track right up at the top on the Nelson side. The attachments are drilled into a couple of big rocks. It's ok for bikes as you can still lift it up and squeeze under it. Hope that helps.

[Woodman]

West Branch of the Wairoa Gorge this weekend anyone?

There may be someone available to show us around...

Think I can on sunday? I think? Who is gonna show us around?

[Genie]

Sorry would like to but working...Just been up the Maungatapu and met the Nelmac boys on the way down. They have put a wire across the track right up at the top on the Nelson side. The attachments are drilled into a couple of big rocks. It's ok for bikes as you can still lift it up and squeeze under it. Hope that helps.

yes, why is it closed? I noticed that the other day.

[Padmei]

I'll show youse guys around. I have intimate knowledge ofr every track & road up there. Are we gonna meet at Pohara or Pelorus?

[Woodman]

I'll show youse guys around. I have intimate knowledge ofr every track & road up there. Are we gonna meet at Pohara or Pelorus?

Fifeshire rock.

[cooneyr]

Sorry would like to but working...Just been up the Maungatapu and met the Nelmac boys on the way down. They have put a wire across the track right up at the top on the Nelson side. The attachments are drilled into a couple of big rocks. It's ok for bikes as you can still lift it up and squeeze under it. Hope that helps.

Good to see there was ultimatly some consultation on this. Guess wont be long and there will be a locked gate at the Caretakers house as well. Fuggit!

Time to be asking some questions of the council guys - find out what is happening.

[NordieBoy]

Sorry would like to but working...Just been up the Maungatapu and met the Nelmac boys on the way down. They have put a wire across the track right up at the top on the Nelson side. The attachments are drilled into a couple of big rocks. It's ok for bikes as you can still lift it up and squeeze under it. Hope that helps.

Interesting.
That would limit the damage on the Nelson side of the track to 2 wheeled and foot traffic. ie Bugger all.

May be all that happens.

[JATZ]

West Branch of the Wairoa Gorge this weekend anyone?

There may be someone available to show us around...

Who's gunna show us around (assuming I come that is), wouldn't be a relation of yours ? :sherlock:


I'll show youse guys around. I have intimate knowledge ofr every track & road up there. Are we gonna meet at Pohara or Pelorus?

Razor sharp as always Padders


Time to be asking some questions of the council guys - find out what is happening.

WEREWOLF.... to the keyboard please :D

[Woodman]

Good to see there was ultimatly some consultation on this. Guess wont be long and there will be a locked gate at the Caretakers house as well. Fuggit!

Time to be asking some questions of the council guys - find out what is happening.

I have a theory that the morally perfect cyclist community have got in someones ear and want the maungatap to link up with the proposed dunn Mountain leg of the national cycle trail thing.
Watching with interest.

[Woodman]

Sooooo.. When you headed up the valley??

[Padmei]

Sooooo.. When you headed up the valley??

How about 1.30pm Sunday avo. Meet up servo next to dick smith Richmond - Mobil? Not the Shell station anyway.

If any new faces wanted to show up & meet the NADS (Nelson Adventure & Dual Sporters) come along for a laugh. Warning - things do sometimes go wrong on our rides.

[Woodman]

Sounds good.

If I'm not there go without me, not that you could go with me cos I won't be there.

[NordieBoy]

1:30pm it is then.

[NordieBoy]

Warning - things do sometimes go wrong on our rides.

Yeah, sometimes people fall off and it isn't caught on camera.

[umopom]

Good for me - see you at 1:30 t'morro
Cheers
JC

How about 1.30pm Sunday avo. Meet up servo next to dick smith Richmond - Mobil? Not the Shell station anyway.

If any new faces wanted to show up & meet the NADS (Nelson Adventure & Dual Sporters) come along for a laugh. Warning - things do sometimes go wrong on our rides.

[Padmei]

Is the mighty KTM going to come out & show us up tommorrow Warewolf? Or will it be cowering in the shed as usual?

[NordieBoy]

Shane may be there.
If there's a ute and TT350 at the big camping ground on the way in then he will :D

Otherwise I've been given full instructions as to where to go and what tracks to take.

[warewolf]

Is the mighty KTM going to come out & show us up tommorrow Warewolf? Or will it be cowering in the shed as usual?Sorry, just too busy at the moment. You'll find me cowering in the shed probably!

[Woodman]

Well that was fcukin brilliant, and finding a still warm mx track was a real bonus. We did bike swapsies and also watched Shane riding adv bikes like they were never intended to be ridden.

Absolutely shattered now and have done something to my back in the shower so can't move very well at the moment.

Padmei, have you apologized to Gonzo for kickiing him for laying in the river?

[NordieBoy]

Have you apologised to that corner for falling off 3 different bikes on it?

[Woodman]

Have you apologised to that corner for falling off 3 different bikes on it?

No and not quite accurate. I crashed my klr 3 times and Umopoms 690 one time on that corner. The third bike was a different corner when I highsided the kdx. \
Surprised you let me have a go on the DR.

[NordieBoy]

Surprised me too. Although the DR was the only bike with a decent rear tyre.

Funny how you were the only one who fell off all day though.

[NordieBoy]

If I could sum up the KTM 690 in one word it would be "smooth". Smooth lines, suspension, handling, engine, everything.
The only minus I could see was a lack of stomp down low but as soon as you've got any revs up at all, it just purrs along. Also as KTM expect you to never get stuck or fall off, there's no grab handles on the back.

It was good hearing Shane's impressions of each of the bikes after blasting them around the track bouncing off the limiter.

Also Padmei's shocking admission as to which bike he preferred!

[Willdat?]

:grouphug:
Thanks to the Nelson KBers who got together and got us a playmat for Luca!

Will get a photo of him practicing tricks on it in the next couple of days - the joys of tummy time, he's going to have huge shoulders! :apumpin:

[Padmei]

Well I'm absolutely buggered. I couldn't hold my arms up to type last nite after picking up gonzo so many times yesterday.n Shit that was the most amount of fun I've had for a long time.
I really want to go back & do the same thing next weekend - this time with a knob on the back (and maybe a newer one on the front.

As the guys said we cruised into Wairoa Gorge with Shane on his lil KDX200 as our mountain guide. Roared senselessly up & down a closed road ( to 4wd traffic that is), then went for an explore up the river.
We all had a go at a firebreak which only Woodman got up on his tractor then preceded to get lost!! While we were waiting I had a blast on the KDX & relived my apprentice days when I had a lil 2T. Heaps of fun - and LITE!!!

On the explore we experienced about 7 river crossings. I got thru 2 I think without having to get off & lift the front or back. You know who your mates are during those times. I'm blaming my E07s & bad luck - skill has nothing to do with it. Umopom was having a bit of trouble with traction on the greasy bits with his front & back 07 setup tho he got across the rivers pretty well.

In the depths of nowhere on a sunny afternoontwo adv riders, Umopom & I, created a new sport - Synchronised bike flopping. Picture this: a shortish climb up a average firebreak. Umopom in front cruises up to a hidden irrigation trench (must have a name for these), Anyway he looks at the 1metre + drop hesitates & disappears as I arrive at the crest. He gives it a bit of throttle to get up the other side, stalls & as I see what's going to unfold put on the front brake at the top of the drop, clutch in with right foot down as we both slide backward, front wheels locked & with perfect precision fall effortlessly backwards with our bikes landing in a heap mocking us.
For a moment we were Gods. Very much like the Rainey & Swantz manouvre.

Nordie also found himself out of his comfort zone doing a knarly hillclimb which Shane blitzed & Woodman conquered. Not often you see him having to sift back beaten...
You know the kid in class you always used to dare to do a dum thing & he'd do it without thinking? Well not namimg anyone here but Woodman would have been him. Plenty of laughs...

What better way to finish a ride than around a course mowen into a large undulating field for VMX. it was very grassy & heed was to be taken of the warning from ther owner not to go wide on the corners. A bit off camber bits had us cautious untill we got used to it. then it was all on.

Man that 2 stroke was fun. Shane can ride like a man possessed & anyone who doubts the abilities of big thumpers should have been there yesterday. KLRs, DRs 690's KDX's all ripping it up. Trying everyone elses bikes on the same terrain was a real eye opener to the different characteristics each bike possesses. It was a shame most of us had pretty shitty tyres to get a real comparison however I have to admit that after the KDX, Nordies DR was the most fun to ride - heaps of instant low down torque & really manageable. The KLRs got a good rap from Shane ( Nordie felt distinctly uncomfortable having to try a KLR) & everyone was fizzing about the suspension & engine on the 690.

So to hell with blind brand loyalty, Motorcycle parochialism & snobbery if everyone got a chance to ride other bikes & have fun like this every day the world would be a better place:grouphug:

cue Michael jackson "we are the world..."


Sorry Just realised how long this was. You can go have a pee now.

[Woodman]

padmei you wordsmith you.

Today i feel like the day after the first game of footy for the season. Muscles i had forgotten about have awaken.

yep I gotta admit it but Nordies bike (big wallowy wallower) was pretty good on the track. The 690 scared me a bit but with knobs on would be lethally fun, and picking it up almost made me cry with its lightness.
Interesting riding Gonxo too. Very similar to mine but with brakes that work, not 690 brakes (fcuk) but brtter than mine.

[Padmei]

The big fcuking Wallowy wallower - I'd forgotten that:rofl:

Shanes reference to his brother Nordie's DR before he adjusted the rebound:shutup:
Still picking grass out of your ears from your corner?

Jatz you slackarse I suppose you did a nambypamby road ride down to the dairy & back?

[Woodman]

The big fcuking Wallowy wallower - I'd forgotten that:rofl:

Shanes reference to his brother Nordie's DR before he adjusted the rebound:shutup:
Still picking grass out of your ears from your corner?

Jatz you slackarse I suppose you did a nambypamby road ride down to the dairy & back?

tried turning crashing into an art form after the kdx spat me off, there I was sliding down the hill head first on my back, but still having the presence of mind to throw my head back and flip over in a perfect backward roll and land on my feet only to see you guys at the top of the hill watching someone els. It was an 8 at least.

[NordieBoy]

Riding around the future water store was fun too.

[Padmei]

Nordie what did it come up like on vid? Woodman got some good air!

[NordieBoy]

Came up ok. Wish I'd taken some more batteries though :(
You got more air on my bike than I did. I really prefer my tyres to be in contact with the ground. I get the shits when they're not.

Apparantly my clutch is slipping too.
Going up the uphill section on the limiter in 2nd gear with a new(ish) MT21 on the rear and the clutch would slip when it hit the acceleration bumps.


Still it's better than Padmei's slipper clutch :D

I also need to re-think my front guard water deflection issues.
I'm still getting muddy water out from unexpected places...

[umopom]

Just got back enough energy to type!! - thanks for the babysitting service and an awesome day - have thanked Shane via Liz via Grace - Padmei thanks for organising and all the rest of you guys for the chance to try your bikes, you have convinced me to get some knobs - probably won't stop the lie downs but.....................see you all next time.
Cheers
JC

[JATZ]

Jatz you slackarse I suppose you did a nambypamby road ride down to the dairy & back?

Ummmm no, not even a road ride, made some sauce from tomatoes and some jam from peaches :D and fiddled with the XT.

Maybe next time

But not this weekend....... I'm picklin gerkins :rofl:

[Willdat?]

Tried to change tyres on my spare 17" rims (front and rear) to MT60s, I'm lacking technique something terrible with the 17" rims (21" front was ok even though I pinched the tube...) would be super to see some real life techniques if someone is changing a tyre in the next few weeks let me know and I'll come and watch if that's ok. I think two tyre levers is part of my issue...

Cheers

[NordieBoy]

Just been up the Maungatapu and met the Nelmac boys on the way down. They have put a wire across the track right up at the top on the Nelson side. The attachments are drilled into a couple of big rocks. It's ok for bikes as you can still lift it up and squeeze under it. Hope that helps.


Good to see there was ultimatly some consultation on this. Guess wont be long and there will be a locked gate at the Caretakers house as well. Fuggit!

Time to be asking some questions of the council guys - find out what is happening.


Interesting.
That would limit the damage on the Nelson side of the track to 2 wheeled and foot traffic. ie Bugger all.

May be all that happens.

It wasn't all that happened...

Gate at the caretakers with wire rope reinforcing.
200694

Post in middle stops it being lifted.
200693

Not a good look...

:angry:

[JATZ]

It wasn't all that happened...

Gate at the caretakers with wire rope reinforcing.
200694

Post in middle stops it being lifted.
200693

Not a good look...

:angry:

BOLT CUTTERS FTW :angry:

[warewolf]

Sounds like I missed another great day out on Sunday!

[Woodman]

Any pics or vids from Sunday??/

[Padmei]

yeah! We want to see flying elephants & wallowing wallowers.

I'm keen for another blast Sun avo if anyone else is keen. I'd have to check my GPS & see if it retained the track otherwise might just follow my nose.

[NordieBoy]

I'm keen for another blast Sun avo if anyone else is keen. I'd have to check my GPS & see if it retained the track otherwise might just follow my nose.

You can smell where you've been?


Ohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitoh shitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohsh itohshit!

[Padmei]

Well not literally Nordie Shane's 2T smoke burnt all my olfactory receptors out of my probiscis

[Woodman]

You can smell where you've been?


Ohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitoh shitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohsh itohshit!

We could smell where Shane had been mmmmm TTS.
Just remembered I owe him a clutch lever.

[Padmei]

Thats alright - he owes Nordie a clutch.

[cooneyr]

It wasn't all that happened...

Gate at the caretakers with wire rope reinforcing.
200694

Post in middle stops it being lifted.
200693

Not a good look...

:angry:

This sucks but it seems like this is the end. Can't argue public road or anything so all you "top enders" can do is establish a permission based access agreement.

Any body spoken to the Council about this yet?

Cheers R

[warewolf]

Have fired off an email. Haven't got any responses since their meeting in late January, so aren't expecting a response unless they get leaned on.

[NordieBoy]

yeah! We want to see flying elephants & wallowing wallowers.

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[warewolf]

Any body spoken to the Council about this yet?I have been in email conversation with the council throughout today. The gates went up because 4wders were lifting the cable, running over the signs and cones to get access. They are in final stages of costing up the repairs. So far only 4wd groups have been in discussion with the council about access. No mtb groups. I've mentioned the adventure motorcycle users and the council is keen to talk and set up a meeting. At this stage, I am happy to spearhead this, but I am away over Easter so there may not be any action for the next month, apart from research.

[Fluffy Cat]

Thanks for that warewolf.
I don't think this track rates very highly on the Nelson MTB'ers list. It's really quite crap to ride up on any sort of MTB and there is not much traction to be had. So you end up pushing most of the time. Coming down is again mostly crap except when on a downhill rig. So not surprised about that. Would be keen to help. Just remember i work crap shifts and on-call in the hospital.
Cheers.

[Fluffy Cat]

Thanks for that warewolf.
I don't think this track rates very highly on the Nelson MTB'ers list. It's really quite crap to ride up on any sort of MTB and there is not much traction to be had. So you end up pushing most of the time. Coming down is again mostly crap except when on a downhill rig. So not surprised about that. Would be keen to help. Just remember i work crap shifts and on-call in the hospital.
Cheers.

[Fluffy Cat]

WTF!!! no idea why it did that x2. Hehe.

[cooneyr]

I have been in email conversation with the council throughout today. The gates went up because 4wders were lifting the cable, running over the signs and cones to get access. They are in final stages of costing up the repairs. So far only 4wd groups have been in discussion with the council about access. No mtb groups. I've mentioned the adventure motorcycle users and the council is keen to talk and set up a meeting. At this stage, I am happy to spearhead this, but I am away over Easter so there may not be any action for the next month, apart from research.

Best of luck guys. Sounds like a good course of action to follow. Glad they are welling to talk - make the most of it. I'd help out if I was a bit more local.

Cheers R

[topo]

After watchin nordie's vid's i've only got one thing to say........STAND UP YOU SLACK BASTARDS

[NordieBoy]

After watchin nordie's vid's i've only got one thing to say........STAND UP YOU SLACK BASTARDS

I've also got one thing to say......... WHERE WERE YOU, YOU SLACK BASTARD

[Woodman]

Too tired to stand up. Great vids Nordie, shit that was fun

[Fluffy Cat]

Mahnn..that looked like fun.

[NordieBoy]

It'll probably be as much fun this Sunday too :D

[cooneyr]

After watchin nordie's vid's i've only got one thing to say........STAND UP YOU SLACK BASTARDS

I reckon. Not enough people stand when the going gets rough. Some of those river crossings and the lumpy stuff on the track was definitely standing territory.

[merv]

So are you Nelson boys boycotting the CCA if you are still at home?

[Fluffy Cat]

Where are you guys off to this time?.

[NordieBoy]

No CCA 'cause we're cheap.


Off up the same trails as last weekend.
At our own pace though (much much faster)...

[Padmei]

Damn I was gonna wimp out cos I'm not feeling the best but after watching those vids - wahoo! Well done Nordie. As I've mentioned before the vids don't show how steep some of those trails were.
Might have to mount that knobblie today. Will let you's know tonite if I'm up to it.

Can we go over the bridges tho this time - please?

[Fluffy Cat]

What's the distance on this ride?.

[NordieBoy]

What's the distance on this ride?.

We did about 100km Nelson-Nelson.

It's all about finding interesting looking bits and trying them :D

[Padmei]

I won't make it for tomms ride. i've got a bug that makes me hit the wall at 2pm every day. I don't think I could face picking up Gonzo that many times again.

Nordie should we perhaps book that track for an adv riders day. maybe after the vmx boys have gone thru & got rid of the slippery off camber grass bits. I think a lot of Nelson riders would really enjoy having a blat around it esp trying out different bikes like last weekend.
I found doing circuits a great way of trying how your bike responds with different input. Good knowledge to take out into the real world

If anyone's interested sing out.

[Padmei]

Following on from that Nordie What's the track like at McGavestons Tapawera laid back trail ride April 11th? Big bike friendly ? Nana lines?

[NordieBoy]

That's the last time that track will be used by the VMX'ers for a year or so probably.

5 April (Monday) VMX Club Motocross at Hinetai Hops, Tapawera Family Day.
We may be able to get a "road legal big bike" class going :D

[Padmei]

Same kind of trackish?

[NordieBoy]

Following on from that Nordie What's the track like at McGavestons Tapawera laid back trail ride April 11th? Big bike friendly ? Nana lines?

Unless the ground is frozen then just about all laid-backs are do-able on a big bike with knobs.

[NordieBoy]

Same kind of trackish?

Yep. Natural terrain, sometimes a bit of a bog in a corner depending which paddock (3 different ones I know of).

[Padmei]

Unless the ground is frozen then just about all laid-backs are do-able on a big bike with knobs.

Oh... Knobs...
Better get into the wkshop & put those indicators back on - might just use velcro this time

[Willdat?]

Wicked vids Fran! Quite like the look of Gonzo minus fairings - looks damn slim.

Can't wait to be back...

[NordieBoy]

I'm going to have to pass on tomorrow.
I hit Padmei's 2pm wall at speed and it was solid brick.

I'm absolutely knackered.

[JATZ]

I'm going to have to pass on tomorrow.
I hit Padmei's 2pm wall at speed and it was solid brick.

I'm absolutely knackered.

Bugger, I got the flying CT all ready for a big day out, even got the lo-bed trailer all sorted.
Next time p'raps

[Padmei]

Wicked vids Fran! Quite like the look of Gonzo minus fairings - looks damn slim.

Can't wait to be back...

Well that's the first time someone's described Gonzo as slim - must have been sucking it's guts in.

We'll wait for ya!

Hope Cula's been doing lots of pressups on his mat - gotta get used to pulling the PW50 out of bog holes with his dad.

[Woodman]

I haven't hit the wall, it feels more like the wall hit me. been walking round all week like a half shut pocket knife. Musta strained me back or somethin.
last sunday was the first time ever that I physically could not pick the klr up.

[Padmei]

Just took the girls to have a look at this (http://www.summit.co.nz/1276351).

Absolutely unreal rambling old buildings up the end of Teal Valley. If you get a chance check it out during an open home- prob one of the craziest farmlets in NZ.
I came across it while mtbing from Maitai valley on a real stormy afternoon . Thinking I was heading back down to Maitai I came to a gate & these old buildings were sitting askew in fields. It was such a sureal sight & thinking after I was in the Lud Valley I could never find it again. After a few years I was unsure if it was real or if I'd dreamed it!!


I don't think you can ride down as far as this from the forest - locked gate now.

Anyway I'm gonna have a quiet quick cruise around Hira forest now.

[NordieBoy]

So how did Hira go?

[NordieBoy]

Nothing at all like this I suppose?

Is this man a builder or sparky?
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[Padmei]

Bugger
ftcr

[NordieBoy]

I think I see your problem.

Your right leg is too heavy.

[Padmei]

Forgot to ask you - Have you any spare DR footpegs. I hear they're lighter.

[NordieBoy]

I do have a spare pair.

They're definitely lighter than a KLR.

[Fluffy Cat]

Is that one DR footpeg is lighter than a KLR, or two footpegs are lighter than a KLR?.
This is an important detail.

[thommo77]

Official NCC statement re: Maungatapu track -

"The track has closed signs at both ends, at the start of the Pelorus river, start of the road up to the track and at the saddle when coming from Marlborough. There is a large sign at the start of the Maitai just down from Branford Park by the old Quarry and again at the new gates, when coming from Nelson.

It is worth noting the track is niether a paper road nor legal road.

The track will stay closed at least until the organisations that pay for it's upkeep can have it repaired from all the damage that has been done by four wheel drives. This damage includes mud-plug holes that have exposed the warring tape for the fibre optic cable that runs along the track, deep holes caused by water courses being blocked off making access out to the power line corridor difficult for service vehicles.

Once the repair work is completed it will be up to the power and communication companies in conjunction with Nelson City Council to decide how to best manage access over the track. It is unlikely to be a free for all. We have only heard from the local four drive club and freedom motor bike riders, who are working with us in regard to organised access.

If you have any further questions or if you represent a group of interested users, please do not hesitate to get in contact with me."

[NordieBoy]

Wonder who the "freedom motor bike riders" are?

Wonder if Ulusseyyess are involved? They have regular runs over to Pelorus.

[warewolf]

"Freedom motor bike riders" ?? Sounds like a double-edged sword, that appellation. Does an adventure rider shit in the woods?

I'd say uly-Cs aren't, judging from my correspondence. Not unless they've gone _really_ soft and got an extra couple of wheels.

[Howie]

It wasn't all that happened...

Not a good look...

:angry:

That’s definitely not a good look:(


This sucks but it seems like this is the end. Can't argue public road or anything so all you "top enders" can do is establish a permission based access agreement.

Any body spoken to the Council about this yet?

Cheers R



I have been in email conversation with the council throughout today. The gates went up because 4wders were lifting the cable, running over the signs and cones to get access. They are in final stages of costing up the repairs. So far only 4wd groups have been in discussion with the council about access. No mtb groups. I've mentioned the adventure motorcycle users and the council is keen to talk and set up a meeting. At this stage, I am happy to spearhead this, but I am away over Easter so there may not be any action for the next month, apart from research.


Best of luck guys. Sounds like a good course of action to follow. Glad they are welling to talk - make the most of it. I'd help out if I was a bit more local.

Cheers R

So what can the rest of us do to support the top of the south guy's that are in communication with the NCC? As this is another in a growing number of 4wd tracks/routes where accsess is being restriced/stopped.



Official NCC statement re: Maungatapu track -

"The track has closed signs at both ends, at the start of the Pelorus river, start of the road up to the track and at the saddle when coming from Marlborough. There is a large sign at the start of the Maitai just down from Branford Park by the old Quarry and again at the new gates, when coming from Nelson.

It is worth noting the track is niether a paper road nor legal road.

The track will stay closed at least until the organisations that pay for it's upkeep can have it repaired from all the damage that has been done by four wheel drives. This damage includes mud-plug holes that have exposed the warring tape for the fibre optic cable that runs along the track, deep holes caused by water courses being blocked off making access out to the power line corridor difficult for service vehicles.

Once the repair work is completed it will be up to the power and communication companies in conjunction with Nelson City Council to decide how to best manage access over the track. It is unlikely to be a free for all. We have only heard from the local four drive club and freedom motor bike riders, who are working with us in regard to organised access.

"

So they have only been contacted by a couple of groups at this stage, and a few individuals obviously.

What I'm trying to get at I guess is that a lot of ADV riders from all around the country at some stage have probably ridden the Maugatapu(and would again if able) but without a organised vocal voice like a club, or Association how do we all voice our concerns over these sort of changes? With out upsetting the local Coucil/ land owners.

[Padmei]

I have found our council very approachable & as a lot of those working there are into MTBing tramping & other outdoor activities they are very proactive re access to areas. I think at this stage they wouldn't want to deny access to anyone just find out who have interest in going thru it.
If you felt concerned about losing access to the Maungatapu a simple email to the council from indivduals from all over the country stating that that track is a reason many adv riders stop over in Nelson to ride as part of tour/ route.
We spend a fortune on self promotion to get visitors here so that is a good angle to start with.
I can't see it turning into a battle over access. Lets start with simple comunication & let them know what the Maungatapu means to Adv riders.

[Underground]

Good ideas Padmei, I would be interested in attending a meeting with council if one happens .
I actualy use the track for commuting as its on my way to town ,so its more than just a recreational route.
They've made it a bit difficult now with their wire ropes and such.
Perhaps the goodwill could start by council creating a narrow gap so bikes can pass through ?

[cooneyr]

Good idea Padmei with the emailing thing. I'm guessing the council staff and elected memebers dont really know how much use it really gets. Maybe if we all sent in an email about how much and when we use it they might get a better idea. Is there an email address we should use or do we just use the generic one.

I like Undergrounds idea of narow gaps for motor and mountain bikes. The regional council down here has created a couple of bike only areas along the side of the Waimak by wire roping of large areas (20+ heactres) and providing a few gaps with railway line driven into the ground. The tracks in these areas are generally not degrading at all though it is all gravel and sand based tracks. I believe stongly that motorbikes do absolutly minimal damage compared with 4wd's. I use to do a lot of 4wding and have seen the carnage they can create and you'd need hundereds of bike deliberatly trying to rip the place up to do the damage of 1 4wd. If the council made if freely accessable to two wheeled machines and by permission only for 4wds for a couple of years after the repairs are completed it would be interesting to see hoe much damage is or isn't done.

Cheers R

[Padmei]

Warewolf did you contact anyone in particular?

[Fluffy Cat]

This morning I fired off an e-mail to NCC about this issue. No reply yet but it couldn't hurt to generate some noise about this issue (noise=e-mails, letters etc).

[warewolf]

Ok, at this stage the council has been quite reasonable, and does not appear to be wanting to lock us out. I have been dealing with one person who is managing this issue.

I'm not sure if it is a good idea for all and sundry to email the council chap. Might just piss him off having to deal with the emails and he's already agreed to meet. Do send them to me, via PM if necessary, and I'll present them in bulk at our meeting. Organisations usually like to deal with other organisations, not a big rabble. After I meet with the fellah, I will know more; those expressing interest will be invited assuming the Council is happy to do so. As I said before, I am happy to spearhead this, if we have to form some kind of collective... that's a bridge to cross (or river to ford :D) for later.

Underground, I did say we use it as the eastern access to the city.

As ever, thanks Ryan for your input. That sounds like a great suggestion. One of my ideas is to present them with examples of working access systems from other parts of the country.

[cooneyr]

This is the ECan (Environment Canterbury the regional council down here) webpage (http://ecan.govt.nz/advice/recreation-and-parks/waimakariri-park/Pages/Trailbikeriding.aspx)with info on trail riding. There is a contact at the bottom of the page if the council want to contact ECan about the access provisions.

Cheers R

[Padmei]

I am heading down to do The Molesworth , Hamner coffee & back to Nelson thru the rainbow on Saturday as it's the last chance for me before it closes on Easter Monday. At the mo the weather looks like showers for Saturday. Hopefully it won't be like the "showers clearing" Clarence ride. I will see how it looks Sat morning but am 99% sure i'll be doing it anyway.

If there are any others out there wishing to join me you are most welcome.

[Padmei]

I am heading down to do The Molesworth , Hamner coffee & back to Nelson thru the rainbow on Saturday as it's the last chance for me before it closes on Easter Monday. At the mo the weather looks like showers for Saturday. Hopefully it won't be like the "showers clearing" Clarence ride. I will see how it looks Sat morning but am 99% sure i'll be doing it anyway.

If there are any others out there wishing to join me you are most welcome.

[NordieBoy]

You going to do it twice?

[Padmei]

weird aye? bloody computors

[Fluffy Cat]

Padmei, I have never done that track and would be keen......I crash a lot.

Also have received a letter from the council

Hi Bruno,

We have closed the track because of damage that has been done by four wheel drives. We are working through a management programme with the power and communication providers that rely on the track to service/protect their assets. It is looking very unlikely that the track to be open to all at all times. We are in the throes of contacting the likes of four wheel drive clubs to talk about their issues with a view of allowing access for organised events . We have had contact from another adventure rider who is keen to come in and talk and would be keen to meet with you too if would like.

Martin



Martin Cleland
Environmental Reserves Supervisor

Nelson City Council
te kaunihera ô whakatû
PO Box 645 Nelson 7040 New Zealand
03 546 0366 or 027 2468 671
www.nelsoncitycouncil.co.nz

Please consider the environment before printing this email

They sound OK to me. Seems that only a couple of letters were received from us ADV types.
So yes, I would like to meet these guys.
I wonder who could that other ADV'er be......hmmmmm????

[NordieBoy]

Sounds like I'll be up for the Sat ride...


That "organised events" bit does not sound good for bikes.

[JATZ]

I am heading down to do The Molesworth , Hamner coffee & back to Nelson thru the rainbow on Saturday as it's the last chance for me before it closes on Easter Monday. At the mo the weather looks like showers for Saturday. Hopefully it won't be like the "showers clearing" Clarence ride. I will see how it looks Sat morning but am 99% sure i'll be doing it anyway.

If there are any others out there wishing to join me you are most welcome.


I am heading down to do The Molesworth , Hamner coffee & back to Nelson thru the rainbow on Saturday as it's the last chance for me before it closes on Easter Monday. At the mo the weather looks like showers for Saturday. Hopefully it won't be like the "showers clearing" Clarence ride. I will see how it looks Sat morning but am 99% sure i'll be doing it anyway.

If there are any others out there wishing to join me you are most welcome.
Got a bit of a stutter there Padmei ?

[Padmei]

Got a bit of a stutter there Padmei ?

No the second post was for those who don't listen.

Glad there're no southerlies today......

Fluffybum the track is very wide - almost like a road

[Fluffy Cat]

Cool, that sounds good, as I am nursing a cracked rib from last weekends crash. Tree roots are now in the bad book, must keep away from tree roots.
Do we need to carry cash to pay for this track and where and when do we meet up?. Just so i know when to dose up on pain killers.

[NordieBoy]

$15 for the Rainbow.

Yep. Where and when for the meet up?

[Padmei]

Leave Nelson at 730ish? Meet up ok stuffeduopmyspacerbaronlaptopfuckfuckfuck okfuck alrghtshtthsspssng me offnow whats happeneong? FRAN!!!

willtrylater
730am
laybybytrafalgarstroundabout.
weather looks good.
Fcuk

[NordieBoy]

Leave Nelson at 730ish? Meet up ok stuffeduopmyspacerbaronlaptopfuckfuckfuck okfuck alrghtshtthsspssng me offnow whats happeneong? FRAN!!!

willtrylater
730am
laybybytrafalgarstroundabout.
weather looks good.
Fcuk

Skip the milo!
Strong coffee! Quick!

[JATZ]

Leave Nelson at 730ish? Meet up ok stuffeduopmyspacerbaronlaptopfuckfuckfuck okfuck alrghtshtthsspssng me offnow whats happeneong? FRAN!!!

willtrylater
730am
laybybytrafalgarstroundabout.
weather looks good.
Fcuk

:lol: :rofl:

[Padmei]

I'm on the big comoputeorer now so there shouldn't be any problems. The laptop spacer key stuffed out & whilst giving it a good blowout did something to the 'i' button. anyway...
Meet tomm morning at 730am from the parking layby by trafalgar st roundabout. I'm all gassed up & ready looking forward to a great day riding gravel.
So far it's nordie & fluffybottom the cat.
Jatz you aren't allowed to go - sorry.

[Underground]

Have a nice day guys,
I did the circuit a few weeks ago from home , nice days ride.
I would love to join you but I've had an electrical meltdown :crybaby:and need to get to town to get some connectors for a fixup ... just as well its so old it can be fixed for $3.50 , instead of having to trailor it to an expensive man in a white coat.

[JATZ]

Jatz you aren't allowed to go - sorry.

Just for that, I'm doin the loop backwards in my big fcukin truck, so lookout :yes:

[NordieBoy]

Just for that, I'm doin the loop backwards in my big fcukin truck, so lookout :yes:

How fast can you go backwards?

[JATZ]

How fast can you go backwards?

Not very fast, but more erratic, if thats possible :lol:

[Padmei]

Have a nice day guys,
I did the circuit a few weeks ago from home , nice days ride.
I would love to join you but I've had an electrical meltdown :crybaby:and need to get to town to get some connectors for a fixup ... just as well its so old it can be fixed for $3.50 , instead of having to trailor it to an expensive man in a white coat.

The A&P car parkers fix bikes now?

[NordieBoy]

That was a very good ride...

[Fluffy Cat]

Very cool ride, I think I could nail that ford next year. Might be getting a reputation for water affiliation...........hehe, time of our lives.