Biker down. Yep I just got bowled...

[GOONR]

Yup the exact same reason you should head check before over taking a vehicle in front because another car could be over taking you.

Head check saved my ass in that very scenario.

Had been following a truck for a while along double yellows, bit of a queue behind us. The end of the double yellows comes and the road is clear, look in the mirror, the car behind me hasn't moved so all good. I indicate to move out to overtake, head check and, yup there is a car right along side me. In one move he over took the car behind me, me and the truck. No head check would have not been a good move.

[jonbuoy]

So, a cyclist was riding up the wrong side of the road?

...and no i don't, why would I

I do it to avoid an accident - cyclist was on the pavement riding wrong way but I still would be at fault..
Also if you have slowed to turn right with a line of traffic behind you Mr Impatient at the back can´t see your indicators or why that fool at the front has slowed down and pulls out for an overtake.

[Luckylegs]

I do it to avoid an accident - cyclist was on the pavement riding wrong way but I still would be at fault..
Also if you have slowed to turn right with a line of traffic behind you Mr Impatient at the back can´t see your indicators or why that fool at the front has slowed down and pulls out for an overtake.

Hmmmmm, in my experience, spotting and avoiding cyclists on the footpath doesn't usually require the use of a wing mirror. Different strokes for different folks huh?

[jonbuoy]

Hmmmmm, in my experience, spotting and avoiding cyclists on the footpath doesn't usually require the use of a wing mirror. Different strokes for different folks huh?

Unless you have eyes in the back of your head how else are you going to look behind you without a head or mirror check?

[Luckylegs]

Unless you have eyes in the back of your head how else are you going to look behind you without a head or mirror check?

Very generally, peripheral vision. Also, in my experience the occurrence of my vehicle and a bike reaching the same driveway at the same time are very seldom and where it occurs, due to the speeds involved it only takes one vehicle to it's speed either up or down marginally and one will happily pass in front of the other.

Now, this will of course generally only occur where ive sat for a while waiting to turn, if vie driven up to said driveway Ive just passed the piece if footpath where saud bike may be and will of course have noted it when going past.

Now if I'm waiting to turn into a road on my right and someone is dumb enough to be riding up the footpath from behind me and pull out across the intersection, they can get fucked!

[Antonio]

Just so everyone knows, I got home from the amazing weekend in Taupo with MAG-NZ, unloaded all my gear to get ready to head back to work (Lifeguard training night), jumped back on the bike...

At about 5:50pm, I head off, just out of my driveway, heading down .....

Hey mate,

I just saw this,
Sorry to hear that, at least happy that you are OK yourself.
Sure it sucks to see your beloved bike in this status but, this will pass like other bad things, hope insurance doesn't play up.

hope to see you riding your bike soon.

cheers

[Patrick]

...What your now saying, is that, when making a right turn on a sngle lane road, I am now obligated to ensure I'm not being overtaken at the same time ????, ....

Yup... just might save your life some time....

Better to be OK and in one piece than being dead right....

To turn into a driveway !!!! NOPE, don't think so. I certainly dont do it on either the bike or in the car.

Good luck doing that then....

We're simply never gonna agree and lets leave it at that, but... are you telling me you do a head check and or check your mirror (the right one) when pulling into a driveway (on your right)???

Now you're getting it...

.....and find myself wondering whether Phreak's dad is a police officer - in which case there will probably (conveniently) not be a police report.

Good try.

FAIL.... No he aint...

I also check before a right turn, be it driveway or road. If I didn't I wouldn't be here today. While cycling I was just about to do a right turn (sitting just to the left of the centre line) as some dickhead overtook me at a horrendous rate. Had I not checked behind I'd have been cleaned out for sure. As it was I stopped where I was while said dickhead sailed past mere inches away without incident.

Re-quoted so Luckylegs might continue to keep his/hers...... anbd learn something valuable here.....

[Luckylegs]

Yup... just might save your life some time....

Better to be OK and in one piece than being dead right....



Good luck doing that then....



Now you're getting it...



Good try.

FAIL.... No he aint...



Re-quoted so Luckylegs might continue to keep his/hers...... anbd learn something valuable here.....

Appreciate the thought, but actually, i'm doing fine thanks.

Actually, flippancy aside, I did give it a go today, to see if i do actually do it subconsciously, whether I do something similar and whether in fact I saw any value. I still say your wrong!

Only time will tell eh?

[Katman]

All the talk of head checks aside (and yes, I agree there may be virtue in doing so), if the right turning vehicle is following all the rules governing such a manoeuvre then the onus lies on the overtaking vehicle to do so without causing an accident.

[Berg]

Ouch but glad to hear you are still in the land of the living

[NONONO]

Hey mate,

I just saw this,
Sorry to hear that, at least happy that you are OK yourself.
Sure it sucks to see your beloved bike in this status but, this will pass like other bad things, hope insurance doesn't play up.

hope to see you riding your bike soon.

cheers

Nice post Ant.......
Need to speak to you and the missus soon....

[shrub]

Appreciate the thought, but actually, i'm doing fine thanks.

Only time will tell eh?

I had a mate who regularly drove very pissed. He'd been doing it for years and had never had an accident, so saw no reason to do things differently. He even told me I was a pussy for walking/getting a taxi when I was pissed.

But as you say, only time will tell and he's stopped doing it. Probably because he can't drive any more because he's lost his license, has written his (expensive) car off with no insurance and is very badly messed up. Fortunately he only took out a power pole (which he paid for).

BTW, I'm glad you don't drive near where I ride.

[jonbuoy]

All the talk of head checks aside (and yes, I agree there may be virtue in doing so), if the right turning vehicle is following all the rules governing such a manoeuvre then the onus lies on the overtaking vehicle to do so without causing an accident.

Katman I thought you were an advocate of a riding style that avoided any kind of accident regardless of who was mostly at in the first place?? Its a bit of a contradiction to all your other posts about personal responsibility. Being legally in the right doesn´t help when an overtaking car slams into the side of you or you get tangled up in a 12 year olds BMX. Onus and responsibility won´t mend broken bones.

[onearmedbandit]

Katman I thought you were an advocate of avoiding accidents in the first place?? Being legally in the right doesn´t help when an overtaking car slams into the side of you or you get tangled up in a 12 year olds BMX. Onus and responsibility won´t mend broken bones.

He is advocating avoiding an accident here. To make a safe pass, be it on the track or road, it is the responsibility of the passing driver/rider to make sure it is a clean pass. And although it shouldn't, this also refers to when you are in the 'right'.

[Luckylegs]

I had a mate who regularly drove very pissed. He'd been doing it for years and had never had an accident, so saw no reason to do things differently. He even told me I was a pussy for walking/getting a taxi when I was pissed.

But as you say, only time will tell and he's stopped doing it. Probably because he can't drive any more because he's lost his license, has written his (expensive) car off with no insurance and is very badly messed up. Fortunately he only took out a power pole (which he paid for).

BTW, I'm glad you don't drive near where I ride.

You been reading selective posts again? You truly are a moron!