Spring's here, time to die

[Fatjim]

If they ever get to the point of activating their ABS. Few people use a large proportion of the potential braking energy available to them, even during the most ball-shriveling of potential incidents.

We'll my balls are quite shiveled from years of motocycling.

BTW, I have traction control on the Tuono, and I'm starting to think that having it set on a mid setting is helping with tyre wear. Of course, having as much power at the rear as possible is kinda the point of motorcycling, but the v4 Tuono, does seem to look after the tyres better that the V2.

[Brian d marge]

My Enfield's got abs , had it since the 50s ,,it can be dialled in just depends on how much I've drunk
And after all these years I haven't hit anything , ,
Ive had a few scares , the biggest one was when the wife said "she wanted to go riding with me

I must be doing something wrong


Stephen

[Berries]

Ive had a few scares , the biggest one was when the wife said "she wanted to go riding with me

Suspension not up to much on those old things?

[Brian d marge]

Suspension not up to much on those old things?

She may be a bit old and sagging a bit but she's mine ,,,:-) the bike that is
PS ...stuff , another poor sod on a bike , this will catch the medias at tension I'm sure

Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

Even the "select few" require several practice attempts. In the real world there are no warm-ups, in a one-off panic stop nobody beats ABS.

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On tarmac I don't believe that. Not even top class racers. Show me the evidence and I'll change my mind.

I appreciate that. That is not my issue with ABS. My issue with ABS (as I've mentioned many times before) is having the opportunity to lock a wheel when/if I want to taken away from me. I'm not talking about racers or racing here.

Example: I come over a blind crest doing 100kph. There is a combine harvester across both lanes 50m away. The laws of physics says ABS or not I need 75m to stop (this is obviously just an example). There is no room to go around said object.

I'd far rather grab a handful of front brake and put the thing down and part company with it than merrily ride right into the side of the object. It's amazing how quickly you stop on your arse.

As far as racing goes. ABS should be banned. It's simply another skill being taken away from the racer to level the playing feild. I honestly can't recall being over taken on the picks whilst racing. So why should I have one of my stronger points taken away from me?

[BoristheBiter]

I appreciate that. That is not my issue with ABS. My issue with ABS (as I've mentioned many times before) is having the opportunity to lock a wheel when/if I want to taken away from me. I'm not talking about racers or racing here.

Example: I come over a blind crest doing 100kph. There is a combine harvester across both lanes 50m away. The laws of physics says ABS or not I need 75m to stop (this is obviously just an example). There is no room to go around said object.

I'd far rather grab a handful of front brake and put the thing down and part company with it than merrily ride right into the side of the object. It's amazing how quickly you stop on your arse.

As far as racing goes. ABS should be banned. It's simply another skill being taken away from the racer to level the playing feild. I honestly can't recall being over taken on the picks whilst racing. So why should I have one of my stronger points taken away from me?

then slow down rossi

But seriously you don't need to lock the wheel up to put it down, but i get what you mean as it does make it easier.
I just think it is one of those things you either like or not.

And yes all electronic aids should be removed from racing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

then slow down rossi

But seriously you don't need to lock the wheel up to put it down, but i get what you mean as it does make it easier.
I just think it is one of those things you either like or not.

And yes all electronic aids should be removed from racing.

lol. I don't really do 'Rossi' on the streets anymore mate. Way too old/too many scars for that.

Maybe not...but it's the method I'd use when going in a straight line.

Absolutely. Fuck traction control, launch control and every other gay control.

[Banditbandit]

My Enfield's got abs , had it since the 50s ,,it can be dialled in just depends on how much I've drunk
And after all these years I haven't hit anything , ,
Ive had a few scares , the biggest one was when the wife said "she wanted to go riding with me

I must be doing something wrong


Stephen

Yeah .. You are doing it wrong - you ride an Enfield ... Of course she wants to go with you ... Try getting something with more than 100 horses ... then she'll stay at home .. My wife NEVER rides on my bike (her choice ...)

[Usarka]

I couldn't give two tosses of a nanny goats cock if people choose to ride ABS or not.

What would concern me is people learning to ride on ABS. Especially if they were to get a non-ABS bike sometime in the future.

[baffa]

I appreciate that. That is not my issue with ABS. My issue with ABS (as I've mentioned many times before) is having the opportunity to lock a wheel when/if I want to taken away from me. I'm not talking about racers or racing here.

Example: I come over a blind crest doing 100kph. There is a combine harvester across both lanes 50m away. The laws of physics says ABS or not I need 75m to stop (this is obviously just an example). There is no room to go around said object.

I'd far rather grab a handful of front brake and put the thing down and part company with it than merrily ride right into the side of the object. It's amazing how quickly you stop on your arse.

As far as racing goes. ABS should be banned. It's simply another skill being taken away from the racer to level the playing feild. I honestly can't recall being over taken on the picks whilst racing. So why should I have one of my stronger points taken away from me?

That is the stupidest logic. ABS or not, you will shave off speed a lot quicker on the bike, than sliding along the ground.
And if you have ABS what is to stop you dropping the bike anyway if you so wish?

[Maha]

How did motorcyclists get along before ABS was even thought of?

[Drew]

That is the stupidest logic. ABS or not, you will shave off speed a lot quicker on the bike, than sliding along the ground.
And if you have ABS what is to stop you dropping the bike anyway if you so wish?

Since non ABS can stop faster than ABS, your logic is just as stupid as you think CFWB's is.

Ever tried to get off a fast moving, upright bike? It's not that easy, and a fuck load more likely to end badly for the rider than the more gentle approach of the bike sliding out from under. I have done both, so you're gonna struggle to argue with me on that score by the way.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That is the stupidest logic. ABS or not, you will shave off speed a lot quicker on the bike, than sliding along the ground.
And if you have ABS what is to stop you dropping the bike anyway if you so wish?

Hey that's cool. You can stay upright and slam into the object. I'll take my chances if I don't have the room to stop and bail every time. Bet my 80 odd kg's and largish surface area for the given weight stops quicker than a combined 400kg's and a small as contact patch. But you're the expert.

By the way...you actually ever tried bailing from a bike at highish speeds in a straight line? Bet you anything you like it'd take you three times longer than locking the front and low siding. Hurt a shitload more too. But hey...once again!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

That is the stupidest logic. ABS or not, you will shave off speed a lot quicker on the bike, than sliding along the ground.
And if you have ABS what is to stop you dropping the bike anyway if you so wish?

Also...could you tell me why GP racers (maybe they know fuck all) would rather part company with the bikes than stay with them into a wall? Maybe they also think they'll stop quicker on their arses?

Also...could you please tell me how at around 100kph in a straight line you'll put your bike down really quickly?

[Drew]

Also...could you tell me why GP racers (maybe they know fuck all) would rather part company with the bikes than stay with them into a wall? Maybe they also think they'll stop quicker on their arses?

Also...could you please tell me how at around 100kph in a straight line you'll put your bike down really quickly?

I have a picture in mind. It is of a skinny bike salesman.

He is leant over a drum full of water, firing a 12 gauge shotgun at the fish therein.

Go easy on the daft ones Pete, they can't help it.