Yeah, posted that coz it was quicker than saying it would lead to more whining than a cat wandering through a cell block at the SPCA.Originally Posted by swbarnett
Forum whore
Yeah, posted that coz it was quicker than saying it would lead to more whining than a cat wandering through a cell block at the SPCA.
Forum whore
Not entirely. Can't remember where I first heard it but it would make sense.
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KB's Chief Cats
No, that act is writ by the same jews that writ the land transport, driver licensing and vehicle registration act.
Does. However impinge on the magna carta and un charter of human rights.
Innt that a bitch, the only organisation to aknowledge the defacto 'crown' rule on these islands, and that 'crown' goes and gives them the bird.
Forum whore
Contrary to how you were dragged up, it originally meant a comma but now is used for "or".
It's interesting you picked that post though. Did you have him lined up for a cock smoking session and got disappointed?
Hardcore Biker
Why are the government and the police so hysterical about speeding - surely they should be more concerned with clamping down on the gangs that the police seem powerless to stop? It doesn't do the NZ police public image any good, and on an international scale that kind of speed tolerance is laughable.
I love the smell of twin V16's in the morning..
In the riders seat
My life and most peoples would be a lot less likely to be affected by any gang member than some fuckwit doing dumb shit in a vehicle
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
In the riders seat
It would make sense if you were talking thousands of dollars of fines, not when you're talking about speeding tickets which might a few hundred if that
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Hardcore Biker
Thats true - tailgating, overtaking on blind corners, cutting off corners is dangerous. 105 in a 100 kph zone isnīt dangerous.
I love the smell of twin V16's in the morning..
In the riders seat
Yup but who is going to start whining about getting a ticket for tailgating or overtaking on a blind corner as compared to speeding?
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Hardcore Biker
They donīt seem to have "zero tolerance" week for tailgating - why not? Driving at 120 in a 100 KPH zone with the right stopping distance from the car in front is safer than sitting on someones tail at 80 KPH in a 100 zone.
I love the smell of twin V16's in the morning..
Forum whore
Totally agree.
Hardcore Biker
I think the biggest part of this problem is the fact that the powers to be ran a public media campaign about the 4km/h over limit and the consequences that would result if this was exceeded. This seems to have drawn our attention and focus on this one issue that we regard as minor and revenue collecting.
As Rastuscat has pointed out in an earlier post, both he and his staff are addressing the other road issues that we have voiced concern about. Because this was'nt being highlighted in the media this put it in the background and out of our minds. He also made it clear that he and his staff use sensible discretion when it comes to the issue of speeding. I hope that this is also the case country wide. I'm sure most of us would agree that excessive speed is dangerous. It was just the 4km/h over that pissed us off as it appeared to be nit picking and revenue collecting.
If future media campaigns could highlight the more serious issues one at a time this would get more attention and respect and just maybe, could have a positive result on our roads for all of us.
This is just my opinion only.
Cheers
Forum whore
Nope.
I'd agree that excessive speed can be dangerous, but then "excessive" is based on an arbitrary limit anyway. If the speed limit was 120km/h would 124km/h be as dangerous? There are times and places where 160km/h is not necessarily dangerous, just as there are times and places when 90km/h in a 100km/h zone is. It is just that one is much easier to prove than the other.
Hardcore Biker
OK, excessive speed "can" be dangerous then. If the speed limit was 120km/h it would have been considered to have been a safe speed for a particular road and condition, therefore 124km/h would come into the category of 4k's over that we have been complaining about.
As for 160km/h there is no way that it could be considered to be a safe speed on our public roads as there are too many factors that can cause an incident. eg mechanical failure, tyre failure, pothole in road, animal crossing road, sudden strong wind gust etc. These speeds are best left for the track where there is a more controlled environment. I'm sure most of us have travelled in excess of 160 at some stage and thought that it was safe because we did'nt come unstuck or get caught. Luck can only last so long.
Forum whore
The thing about having a media campaign on the 4k tolerance is that it draws it to the front of everyones mind.
After a while it'll just become ho hum, and there'll be a need for the next gasp-factor to come along.
About 18 months is what it takes for a campaign to have the gasp-factor run out, so look out for the next big thing.
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