My first poll for the NZ public

[mashman]

I quote you in full and if you answer a question, I generally don't edit out the answer to make it seem like you didn't answer - but nice try 2/10.

What can I say, you're a pro.

but I did - you keep missing that part, yah know, the part about Agency etc. It's kinda important.

It wasn't a part of the rules that were laid out by the lender. Hence you kept missing the point about the 11th marble n debt n stuff.

You can't always get what you waaaaaaaant - The Rolling Stones

But if you try sometimes, well you might find, that you get what ya need. Typical you'd only go half way. You lied and cheated.

Yes, I'm such a bad person. Using my Skills and Agency to get things I want, How silly of me... Afterall I'm sure that personal enterprise is punishable by death under Commu- I mean an RBE

All wrong, including the bit about you being bad.

Well, you can take the Englishman out of England....

You're english?

Seriously - Is it some requirement to be a Conspiracy theorist that you are a repressed Homosexual? I've got no problems if you like the Man-Sausage, more power too you.

Or is it to be a Conspiracy theorist you just have to be good at Swallowing without question?

Wait, I think I might have something there....

Not yet you don't... but we'll meet someday and I'll ensure that you get everything you deserve, honey.

[mashman]

Equity of Oppertunity or Equity of Outcome?

I don't need to make the distinction. I leave that to lesser minds.

[mashman]

The bits where the ideas expressed in the Website that Emblazons your signature are almost word for word ideas expressed by communist thinkers.

The Parable of The Pub. I must be really smart then because I've transcended communist thinking. chur bro.

[TheDemonLord]

I don't need to make the distinction. I leave that to lesser minds.

Marxism 101.

And for the record - more could be done to achieve Equity of Opportunity - only today in fact I was discussing with a Teacher friend of mine about Teaching - and he cited a study that showed the biggest factor on a Childs' academic performance was how much their parents made during the school year.

I'll even stand with you on that and say that's wrong, and we could and should do better.

But by trying to enforce equity of outcome as a solution (which is by proxy, whether you admit it or see it, what you are doing) - This I cannot abide by, because it takes away an individuals choice.

[mashman]

I did answer the question:

Those that use their agency to acquire said resources get first dibs.

So, the Miners who go down the mine - they get first dibs on the minerals
The forestry worker who cuts down a tree - they get first dibs on the wood.

But seeing as we are talking about being owned by Children - my 18 month old has realised that if she wants to play with a toy in one part of the room (that she can't move) and she wants to play with a different toy in another part of the room, then she has to choose - she understands the basic concept of Scarcity and loss of oppertunity - so How about that, getting your arse handed to you by a Toddler?

You didn't. I get to state what constitutes an acceptable answer, because I Am the one who understands RBE, and you don't. You've had the 13yr old give you an answer as an example... yet you've 11th marbled that too.

So when farmers decide that they can work 2 hours a day by limiting the amount of produce they produce, you'll be happy with dying? You really don't think your examples through very well... or does your toddler provide your ideas for you too.

[TheDemonLord]

What can I say, you're a pro.

I don't get paid for this - Like all the Conspiracy threads, I'm still waiting on my Cheque from Tel-Aviv, the NWO, The Rockerfellers, Big Pharma, The airline industry etc.

Till then, I'm just an incredibly gifted amateur.

It wasn't a part of the rules that were laid out by the lender. Hence you kept missing the point about the 11th marble n debt n stuff.

Yes, we can all make scenarios with rules that don't resemble reality - just like you haven't posted an Answer to my Steak problem.

But if you try sometimes, well you might find, that you get what ya need. Typical you'd only go half way. You lied and cheated.

Of course - Because I'm not interested in getting just what I need, Like most humans - I'm interested in getting what I want.

All wrong, including the bit about you being bad.

Well yes, that IS the point of Sarcasm....

You're english?

Born and Bred in the Souf east

Not yet you don't... but we'll meet someday and I'll ensure that you get everything you deserve, honey.

Well Golly, with Sweet talk like that, who could resist! Does your Wife know you talk like that to Strangers on the Internet? The Scandal!

[TheDemonLord]

You didn't. I get to state what constitutes an acceptable answer, because I Am the one who understands RBE, and you don't. You've had the 13yr old give you an answer as an example... yet you've 11th marbled that too.

So what you are saying is that you get to shift the Goal Posts when you don't like it?

Got yah.

So when farmers decide that they can work 2 hours a day by limiting the amount of produce they produce, you'll be happy with dying?

Which is exactly what will happen in an RBE - I'm glad you are NOW seeing the problem with your Faith.

You really don't think your examples through very well... or does your toddler provide your ideas for you too.

Au Contrair - I thought it through perfectly, and you walked straight into it.

That's twice now you've been outsmarted by a Toddler.

[mashman]

Marxism 101.

And for the record - more could be done to achieve Equity of Opportunity - only today in fact I was discussing with a Teacher friend of mine about Teaching - and he cited a study that showed the biggest factor on a Childs' academic performance was how much their parents made during the school year.

I'll even stand with you on that and say that's wrong, and we could and should do better.

But by trying to enforce equity of outcome as a solution (which is by proxy, whether you admit it or see it, what you are doing) - This I cannot abide by, because it takes away an individuals choice.

Enforce equity? You're gonna have to explain why equity is going to be enforced? Ironically enough, competition is enforced by the capitalist system, consequences be damned. But no, RBE will not require force for there to be equity.

[TheDemonLord]

Enforce equity? You're gonna have to explain why equity is going to be enforced?

Wait to tics, see below

Ironically enough, competition is enforced by the capitalist system, consequences be damned.

People have the choice to compete and to what degree they want to Compete - and you know what Competition breeds? Excellence.

Also works very well for Nature too, Evolution by means of Natural selection, survival of the fittest.

But no, RBE will not require force for there to be equity.

It will take away my personal choice (unless you can answer the Riddle of Steel, I mean Steak, the Riddle of Steak) - and it can only do that by Force.

[mashman]

Yes, we can all make scenarios with rules that don't resemble reality - just like you haven't posted an Answer to my Steak problem.

I answered your steak question rather thoroughly... even provided an example of the lack of scarcity you were referring to. It was real life, not a made up scenario.

Of course - Because I'm not interested in getting just what I need, Like most humans - I'm interested in getting what I want.

Most humans? bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[Brian d marge]

From someone who believes wealth can only come from debt I'd count your perceptions of my knowledge of absolutely anything as completely irrelevant to any real-world evaluation.

And no, I did. And if you'd actually checked you'd have found that I'm far from the first to use physical laws to define economic phenomena.
http://www.springer.com/gp/book/9781441993649

https://www.amazon.com/Entropy-Law-E...onomic+Process

Now fuck off and educate yourself, you're embarrassing.

Not as embarrassing as be wrong 3x and at such a simplistic level too

And i still see you are trotting out that same old web site we proved wrong ... how many years ago

Do you want me to go over the same old ground again ..I can ..

Or would u just like to use throw away lines to hide ur ignorance

Again



sent for a divine source

[mashman]

So what you are saying is that you get to shift the Goal Posts when you don't like it?

Got yah.

Got me? Damn, if only I had have explained why.

Which is exactly what will happen in an RBE - I'm glad you are NOW seeing the problem with your Faith.

No it won't. @faith.

Au Contrair - I thought it through perfectly, and you walked straight into it.

That's twice now you've been outsmarted by a Toddler.

Quite obviously you didn't.

[mashman]

People have the choice to compete and to what degree they want to Compete - and you know what Competition breeds? Excellence.

No they don't... and I've had conversations with the commerce commission in regards to legislation that forces people to compete. It's not a choice to not compete, coz those competing get pissy that they can't compete. Tragically ironic, but that's the way it works boy.

It will take away my personal choice (unless you can answer the Riddle of Steel, I mean Steak, the Riddle of Steak) - and it can only do that by Force.

I answered the steak question. There is no steak scarcity given that supermarkets are throwing them out before they go off and some country's are legislating that that shouldn't be allowed. That steaks won't need to be thrown out under RBE, given that people can walk into the supermarket and simply pick them up instead of dumpster diving for the same steak later. So the financial economy is forcing supermarkets to change their behaviour.

[Katman]

....and you know what Competition breeds? Excellence.

Yeah, just ask Lance Armstrong.

[Ocean1]

Not as embarrassing as be wrong 3x and at such a simplistic level too

And i still see you are trotting out that same old web site we proved wrong ... how many years ago

Do you want me to go over the same old ground again ..I can ..

Or would u just like to use throw away lines to hide ur ignorance

Again



sent for a divine source

I've never posted either of those links before.

I can find and post more explaining economics in terms of physical laws if you want.

Or you could just fuck off and sit in the corner with the pointy hat for a while.