Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

You don't see the glaring logical error there? Of course not, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.

Let me put it in a way you will understand:

The fuckwit may aswell have said "There are X number of Deaths a year from Motorcyclists wearing Helmets, but only Y number of Deaths a year from Motorcyclists who don't wear Helmets. X is far bigger than Y, therefore we shouldn't wear Motorcycle Helmets"

Two deaths in the last 15 years in America due to measles versus 127 deaths attributed to the measles vaccine in the same time period.

[husaberg]

Death from measles versus death from the measles vaccine in America.

Two deaths in the last 15 years in America due to measles versus 127 deaths attributed to the measles vaccine in the same time period.

Nice bit of scaremongering you of course would not notice that he is comparing meaasles deaths where? note he doesnt say the usa due to vaccine vs deaths in a country where meassles vaccine is in widespread use.

Lets see worldwide death figures
Measles deaths

In 1980, 2.6 million people died of it, and in 1990, 545,000 died; by 2014, global vaccination programs had reduced the number of deaths
2017, there were 110 000 measles deaths globally, mostly among children under the age of five.
Measles vaccination resulted in a 80% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2017 worldwide.
In 2017, about 85% of the world's children received one dose of measles vaccine by their first birthday through routine health services – up from 72% in 2000.
During 2000-2017, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 21.1 million deaths making measles vaccine one of the best buys in public health.

You really are not very bright at all are you.

World wide 200-2017 21 million deaths prevented by vacine compared to 400 deaths at most/year can you not figure out the maths

[WALRUS]

There have been 2 deaths linked to measles in the last 15 years -- both in people with other ailments that contributed to the deaths.
But there have been 127 deaths linked to the measles VACCINE.

Surely that would be because several tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of people get the vaccine, some people react badly but the rest of them don't and then continue to not die of Measles?

I suspect, and this is a bit of guesswork, that if suddenly the vaccine was taken away, a lot more than 127 people over 15 years will die of the disease?

[Katman]

I suspect, and this is a bit of guesswork, that if suddenly the vaccine was taken away, a lot more than 127 people over 15 years will die of the disease?

The death rate from measles had been in sharp decline for about 30 years before the vaccine was even discovered.

[TheDemonLord]

Two deaths in the last 15 years in America due to measles versus 127 deaths attributed to the measles vaccine in the same time period.

So lets get rid of Helmets then because more people die who are wearing Helmets....

(It's the Exact same argument, predicated on the exact same logical fallacy)

[Katman]

(It's the Exact same argument, predicated on the exact same logical fallacy)

Well it's not really, is it?

People don't die because of the helmet they're wearing.

[husaberg]

So lets get rid of Helmets then because more people die who are wearing Helmets....

(It's the Exact same argument, predicated on the exact same logical fallacy)

Here is an explanation of how the antivaxers last ploy is debunked
https://respectfulinsolence.com/2010...-of-the-vacci/

plus
Vaccines didn’t save us – it was improved living conditions, better nutrition, indoor plumbing, and sanitation.
If this were true, then how come these factors didn’t also stop RSV, norovirus, HIV, and other non-vaccine-preventable diseases?

Know why you don’t hear about a lot of kids getting tetanus, rabies and other vaccine-preventable diseases anymore?

This page is a goldmine
https://vaxopedia.org/2018/07/29/ant...housand-times/

So lets get rid of Helmets then because more people die who are wearing Helmets....

(It's the Exact same argument, predicated on the exact same logical fallacy)

If only wakefeild had that information he could have hand-selected the ones who died wearing helmets that also had autism and he could produce another paper saying helmet wearing caused their autism.

[TheDemonLord]

Well it's not really, is it?

People don't die because of the helmet they're wearing.

Helmets reduce Situational Awareness. Helmets lead to a sense of safety, prompting the wearer to take greater risks.

It.
Is.
The.
Exact.
Same.
Stupid.
Fucking.
Argument.

[WALRUS]

100% of people who die were at one point alive. All we need to do is make sure that nobody is alive and then nobody can die. Simples!

(Before anyone kicks up a stink at that, I am of course being facetious)

[Katman]

Helmets reduce Situational Awareness. Helmets lead to a sense of safety, prompting the wearer to take greater risks.

It.
Is.
The.
Exact.
Same.
Stupid.
Fucking.
Argument.

But they don't die because of the helmet.

[TheDemonLord]

But they don't die because of the helmet.

Don't they?

You trying to arbitrarily drew a demarcation line in order to avoid admitting the point that your dumbfuck YT video was built upon quite literally one of the most stupid fallacious premises?

Not gonna fly:

The Kids didn't die BECAUSE of the Vaccine, they died from Anaphylactic Shock.

^^^^

That's how retarded you are being.

[husaberg]

But they don't die because of the helmet.

Yeah so you say, but deaths due to motorbike accidents were dropping well before the introduction of compulsory helmet wearing.
So how do we really know helmets save lives.
How many of the wearers had autism, if we got Wakefeild to single out the wearers that already has autism out of those he could prove wearing helmets caused the autism as well as not preventing the accident.
if anything the numbers would prove you are more likely to have an accident if wearing one because more people did.

[Katman]

The Kids didn't die BECAUSE of the Vaccine, they died from Anaphylactic Shock.

Due to receiving the vaccine.

[TheDemonLord]

Due to receiving the vaccine.

Due to wearing a Helmet.

[Katman]

Yeah so you say, but deaths due to motorbike accidents were dropping well before the introduction of compulsory helmet wearing.
So how do we really know helmets save lives.
How many of the wearers had autism, if we got Wakefeild to single out the wearers that already has autism out of those he could prove wearing helmets caused the autism as well as not preventing the accident.
if anything the numbers would prove you are more likely to have an accident if wearing one because more people did.

If you think you can make a valid argument out of it, feel free to approach the authorities about it.