The Majestic Metal Wizard
Again, the problem here is that the US Courts have already determined that in part, Twitter constitutes a Public Square - after it was determined that Trump blocking journos was infringing their first Amendment rights.Originally Posted by husaberg
However - the above, sounds awfully like an Editorial policy...
Not to mention I can think of multiple things that were at least substantively true that were flagged as 'misinformation' by Twitter.
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Weekend cruiser
I had forgotten how litigous the USA is.
Billboards on the freeway advertising for business such as...."have you had a motor accident" or "have you been fired from your job" and similar.
I loved the line from Breaking Bad..."we better find a criminal lawyer"
Geriatric hoon
You seem to be missing the point. The 1A protects the right of people, particularly of the press, to criticise the government. Marge is part of the government, however bizarre that may be, she breached Twitter's terms of service so she was out. Twitter is not the government. I believe she still has her Congressional Twitter account.
The "public square" aspect was relevant to politicians blocking people they didn't like. That's not what's happening here.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Was Marge, part of the People - as you said, private account, criticizing the Government? A case can be made that she was. She has a public following, like a member of the press.
Even moreso since we have had confirmation from the likes of Mark Zuckerberg that it was in fact the Government asking for certain things to be censured by the likes of Twitter and Facebook.
I agree it's not the same - but the question is unresolved - Is Twitter a Public Square or not?
In one set of case law, it is a Public Square, therefore the protections of the First Amendment apply
In others, it isn't.
My personal view is that seeing as you do not need an account to view Twitter threads, that fulfills the Public aspect of Public Square and there is definitely political debate going on.
I'm not sure she will win - although with Elon buying Twitter - I have a sly prediction that many of these cases will now be found against Twitter and the protection afforded to Twitter as a service provider will soon be up for review.
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Anorak
Correct Marge was not banned for criticism that people didn't like. She was banned from the same reasons trump was, for spreading false information.
Neither can spread false information or attempt to incite violence with impunity.
i just seen this from Moscow Mitch
Last February, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell called her embrace of conspiracy theories and “loony lies” a “cancer for the Republican Party.Facebook suspended an account of Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's for 24 hours for spreading misinformation about COVID-19, a day after Twitter permanently suspended the Republican's personal account on that platform.
On other social media platforms Monday, Greene shared a screenshot of a message from Facebook, alerting her that her account had been blocked.
"Facebook has joined Twitter in censoring me," Greene reportedly wrote in posts on the Telegram and Gettr networks. "This is beyond censorship of speech."
A day earlier, Twitter permanently suspended Greene's personal account for "repeated violations of our COVID-19 misinformation policy."
In an email to NPR, a spokesperson for the social media company said Twitter "had been clear that, per our strike system for this policy, we will permanently suspend accounts for repeated violations of the policy."
The Georgia Republican's official government Twitter account is still active, the company confirmed.
Greene, in a statement following her Twitter suspension, said Twitter was an "enemy to America and can't handle the truth."
"That's fine, I'll show America we don't need them and it's time to defeat our enemies,"
Twitter accounts with five or more "strikes" face a permanent suspension from the platform, according to Twitter policies.
Greene was temporarily suspended from Twitter in January 2021 for violating the company's "civic integrity" policy, which the company had used to remove thousands of QAnon-related accounts. Greene has endorsed the QAnon conspiracy theory in the past.
In May she faced criticism from her own party and beyond after comparing COVID-19 safety measures to the treatment of Jews during the Holocaust.
The House of Representatives removed Greene from her committee assignments in February. She'd been condemned for promoting racist, antisemitic and false conspiracy theories and for encouraging violence against Democratic officials before she took office.
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The Majestic Metal Wizard
Just one question...
What is the difference between Criticism that people don't like and spreading false information?
On a good number of issues - Covid especially, such as the Lab Leak theory - there is a very good argument to be made that there is no difference.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Forum whore
Easy - criticism can be the truth, even if the person being criticised doesn't like it. False information, by its very name is false. Unless it is alternative facts.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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The Majestic Metal Wizard
I'm glad you obliged - So, how does that play with the Hunter Biden Laptop story? or the Covid Lab Leak theory?
Both of which were declared misinformation and people spreading it were yeeted off the platform.
Both were widely ridiculed as False by certain people (perhaps people who might have been criticised by such info and didn't like it?), and yet...
It's far easier to do, to just declare something as false (even if it's true) because you don't like it and then get the Government to lean on a platform like Twitter or Facebook to get them to Censor it.
Hence my question.
And for bonus points - the best Misinformation always contains an element of Truth.
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Anorak
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Geriatric hoon
She was an oponent of mask wearing as a COVID precaution among other things. She constantly spouted dangerous nonsense. Twitter put up with her breaches for long enough and eventually gave her the heave. It's nothing to do with criticism, she was repeating information that was getting people killed.
The woman is an idiot, she has a growing list of "mis-speaks." Peach tree dishes for Petri dishes. Bill Gates is growng meat in peach tree dishes according to Marg.
The gazpacho for the Gestapo. She was referring to the Capitol police I believe.
Marg says that rights are being fragrantly violated under Democrats.
She blamed the Californian forest fires on Jewish lasers from outer space. She might have got that one from Q she was (still is?) a follower.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
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the Biden laptop - can you explain how the person who had the laptop, legally blind, was able to sort through thousands of e-mails to find the incriminating ones?
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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Anorak
She's a stranger to the truth
In another Facebook post, Greene promoted a conspiracy theory about Clinton, a top aide, and child murder and mutilation.
Greene has repeatedly questioned the legitimacy of mass shootings. In one such video, she suggested that the mass shooting in Las Vegas in 2017 may have been staged by gun control activists.
Connecting a series of scattershot points, Greene suggested a bank controlled by the Rothschild family, who are Jewish, a utility company responsible for the fire and then-Gov. Jerry Brown had a compelling motive to spark the blaze: clearing the path for a high speed rail project Brown wanted. She also floated the possibility that the fires could have been started by “lasers or blue beams of light” shot down from space by allies of Brown who were said to be in the solar energy industry.
“There are too many coincidences to ignore,” she wrote.
In February 2019, Greene appeared in an online video filmed at the U.S. Capitol, arguing that Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan weren’t “really official” members of Congress because they didn’t take the oath of office on the Bible. Both women are Muslim.
A glance at Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s incendiary words
By BRIAN SLODYSKO
February 5, 2021
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., goes back to her office after speaking on the floor of the House Chamber on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Feb. 4, 2021. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., goes back to her office after speaking on the floor of the House Chamber on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Feb. 4, 2021.
Freshman Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, has been stripped of her committee assignments by the House Democratic majority over racist remarks, her embrace of conspiracy theories and her past endorsement of violence against leading Democratic officials.
Greene, 46, is a newcomer to politics, and previously worked for her family’s construction business in Georgia. She was labeled a “future Republican Star” by former President Donald Trump, whose political style she emulates. The House Democrats took the unusual step on Thursday.
Here’s a look at some of Greene’s past statements and social media posts, many of which were deleted after the liberal group Media Matters unearthed them online.
LAS VEGAS MASS SHOOTING
In 2017, Stephen Paddock opened fire from a hotel room window overlooking an outdoor country music festival in Las Vegas, killing 58 people. Afterward, Greene suggested that the shooting might have been staged.
“How do you get avid gun owners and people that support the Second Amendment to give up their guns and go along with anti-gun legislation?” Greene asked in an online video. “You make them scared, you make them victims and you change their mindset and then possibly you can pass anti-gun legislation. Is that what happened in Las Vegas?”
“I don’t believe (Paddock) pulled this off all by himself, and I know most of you don’t either,” Greene said.
SPACE LASERS
In 2018, a poorly maintained electrical grid sparked a California wildfire that killed 84 people. In a Facebook post in November of that year, Greene falsely speculated that darker forces were at work.
Connecting a series of scattershot points, Greene suggested a bank controlled by the Rothschild family, who are Jewish, a utility company responsible for the fire and then-Gov. Jerry Brown had a compelling motive to spark the blaze: clearing the path for a high speed rail project Brown wanted. She also floated the possibility that the fires could have been started by “lasers or blue beams of light” shot down from space by allies of Brown who were said to be in the solar energy industry.
“There are too many coincidences to ignore,” she wrote.
OMAR AND TLAIB
In February 2019, Greene appeared in an online video filmed at the U.S. Capitol, arguing that Democratic Reps. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan weren’t “really official” members of Congress because they didn’t take the oath of office on the Bible. Both women are Muslim.
“I really want to go talk to these ladies and ask them what they are thinking, and why they are serving in our American government,” Greene said. “They really should go back to the Middle East.”
Tlaib was born in Detroit. Omar was born in Somalia and came to the U.S. when she was 12, becoming a U.S. citizen five years later.
9/11 ATTACKS
In November 2018, Greene shot a video in which she talked about the 9/11 terrorist attacks, referring to a “so-called” plane that crashed into the Pentagon. She added, “It’s odd, there’s never any evidence shown for a plane in the Pentagon.”
She also “liked” a comment posted by a Facebook user in 2018 who falsely argued that 9/11 was “done by our own Gov.” Greene responded: “That is all true.”
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Anorak
he will just change the subject and thrown in another hundred other gish gallops
The alleged Laptop Hunter Biden allegedly owned and allegedly dropped off and allegedly had stuff on it that the FBI has had for years with no charges no warrants no arrests as alleged doesn’t quite cut it
Mac Isaac obtained the laptop in April 2019. He asserted three years later that while he was copying individual files and folders from the laptop's hard drive to another device, he "saw some content that was disturbing and then also raised some red flags
In April 2022, The Washington Post reported that Mac Isaac said that he had seen claims about what the laptop contained that did not reflect what he had seen on the laptop: "I do know that there have been multiple attempts over the past year-and-a-half to insert questionable material into the laptop as in, not physically, but passing off this misinformation or disinformation as coming from the laptop. ... And that is a major concern of mine
The Washington Post published the findings of two forensic information analysts it had retained to examine 217 gigabytes of data provided to the paper on a hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey, who represented that its contents came from the laptop. One of the analysts characterized the data as a "disaster" from a forensics standpoint. The analysts found that people other than Biden had repeatedly accessed and copied data for nearly three years; they also found evidence others had written files to the drive both before and after the October 2020 New York Post reports. In September 2020, someone created six new folders on the drive, including with the names "Biden Burisma," "Salacious Pics Package" and "Hunter. Burisma Documents." One of the analysts found evidence someone may have accessed the drive contents from a West Coast location days after The New York Post published their stories about the laptop.
According to the New York Post story, a person—who Mac Isaac could not identify because he is legally blind—left the computer at the repair shop to repair water damage, but once this was completed, the shop had no contact information for its owner, and nobody ever paid for it or came to pick it up. Criticism has been focused on Mac Isaac over inconsistencies in his accounts of how the laptop came into his possession and how he passed it on to Giuliani and the FBI. When interviewed by CBS News, Mac Isaac offered contradictory statements about his motivations. Thomas Rid, a political scientist and disinformation expert at Johns Hopkins University, noted that the emails could have been forged or that forged material could have been mixed with genuine materials, a "common feature" of disinformation operations
An analysis by Distributed Denial of Secrets of 128,755 emails allegedly copied from the laptop and circulated by allies and former staff of President Donald Trump showed "signs of tampering" including 145 modification dates and emails created more than a year after Hunter Biden allegedly had the laptop.
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Forum whore
Yes, as an IT tech I have cloned lots of drives, copied lots of files and folders and yet I have never seen the actual content showing on screen while the cloning / copying takes place - might see a folder of file name flash up but generally the process is too fast to see whats going by. So you would have to have an email account that could open the .pst files (assuming Microsoft Outlook) and that would take an inordinate amount of time.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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The Majestic Metal Wizard
There's plenty of reasons, including plenty of true reasons to oppose mask wearing.
Hence my point.
See, that's quite the Stretch.
I could make the equally justified claim that anyone who spouts Marxist nonsense are also repeating information that was getting people killed.
Just like we have to Honor the Holocaust, right? Come on Man.
And she would be correct - like for example, the Government approaching Corporations to do their dirty work (Censoring citizens)
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