Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[TheDemonLord]

I wonder how much tdl has patrioned?

Go on. The more you pay, the more we pray . Dig deep for your leader.

I can tell you exactly: $0.

As a general rule, I don't pay money to things like Youtubers, livestreamers, Pornstars and Politicians.

And yes, there is a reason I have grouped all of those together, it's most likely exactly what you think.

[TheDemonLord]

Good thing she is over here. Women actually do not have the same rights as men in the Free world.

FFS! Half the population of the entire Fucking World are Women. Anyone oppressing them should be eradicated without delay.

Quite the Genocidal statement....

Of course, if I'd make a hyperbolic statement calling for an entire group of people to be 'eradicated'....

[TheDemonLord]

The gloves are off, but Trump is seriously misreading the magat room lol

He has coined a nickname for ron desatan, that being ron sanctimonious.
check out the comments at fox. Trumps run to tbe Republican presidential run may not be as cut and dried as he thinks.
naturally what i find funny, is one of the rare times he actually tells the truth, the magats pound on him for it

"Trump mocks DeSantis at Pennsylvania rally: 'Ron DeSanctimonious'"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...esanctimonious

Desatan is going to gut trump like a fish lol

This is the sort of thing that Ben Shapiro has predicted - whether or not Trump goes unopposed in the Republican Primary.

But here's the thing - I like both Trump and DeSantis and a mildly amusing nickname is not going to get my panties in a twist.

[sugilite:Me]

I did no such thing. If you are going to try and put words in my mouth, have I taught you nothing?

D-

au contraire
We were discussing election deniers, and you posted this gem
"Once it's more than a few fringe lunatics, the numbers argument becomes moot."
And as you know the Republican party are the party of election deniers, sooooooo.....

[sugilite:Me]

But here's the thing - I like both Trump and DeSantis and a mildly amusing nickname is not going to get my panties in a twist.

You're so vain, i bet you think that post was about you, don't you, don't you, don't you? Lol
Clearly you did not read the article comments posted largely by American voters. My post was not about whether you would get your panties in a bunch - just to be clear.

If course you like Desaten, when i posted a video of him belittling children, you said your respect for him went up even more. You do you and thats ok. Fringe looney magas can be fun, glad we have our very own one right here on the forum.

[TheDemonLord]

au contraire
We were discussing election deniers, and you posted this gem
"Once it's more than a few fringe lunatics, the numbers argument becomes moot."

"More than"

Meaning that for any election there is always some Fringe Lunatics that deny the election, but once it exceeds that - such as both the Democrats and Republican Senators, Congressmen and AGs, then it's something.

And as you know the Republican party are the party of election deniers, sooooooo.....

As are the Democrats, based on Video evidence.

And that's without bringing up the election of GWB.

Goose/Gander - yet only one of them every gets censured for it.

[TheDemonLord]

You're so vain, i bet you think that post was about you, don't you, don't you, don't you? Lol

Are you saying there wasn't a tangential barb attached?

Clearly you did not read the article comments posted largely by American voters. My post was not about whether you would get your panties in a bunch - just to be clear.

I don't doubt it - again, Ben Shapiro has been making this prediction for months as to why DeSantis shouldn't go against Trump.

If course you like Desaten, when i posted a video of him belittling children, you said your respect for him went up even more. You do you and thats ok. Fringe looney magas can be fun, glad we have our very own one right here on the forum.

I did - especially when the data about the Effects of Covid policy on Children came out that showing DeSantis was right all along.

Masks are useless in Children, as is the Vaccine and closing schools (Shock! Horror!) had a significant negative impact on childrens' learning!

[george formby]

Some opinions on where the US maybe heading, admittedly from The Guardian. Be interesting to read some other perspectives on whether the current situation will lead to increased violence or even civil war.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...stopher-parker

[TheDemonLord]

Some opinions on where the US maybe heading, admittedly from The Guardian. Be interesting to read some other perspectives on whether the current situation will lead to increased violence or even civil war.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...stopher-parker

AKA the Tim Poole position.

[pritch]

1: His Economic Policy
2: His Border Security Policy
3: His Energy Policy
4: His opposition to Wokeness
5: His Foreign Policy/First US president in my Lifetime not to have started a new war.

As always most of those are fictional. He had no policies in the normal sense of that word.
A couple of miles of border wall isn't much of a border security policy. And the Mexicans didn't pay for it.
He wouldn't even be able to tell you what "wokeness" was.
His foreign policy? Throwing candy at the German Chancellor and stating, "Don't say I never give you anything." Doing whatever Putin told him to.
His energy policy would have been a war crime.
His only economic policy was to give himself a tax cut, a COVID "loan," and to have the Fed spend trillions keeping the share market afloat.

[TheDemonLord]

As always most of those are fictional. He had no policies in the normal sense of that word.
A couple of miles of border wall isn't much of a border security policy. And the Mexicans didn't pay for it.
He wouldn't even be able to tell you what "wokeness" was.
His foreign policy? Throwing candy at the German Chancellor and stating, "Don't say I never give you anything." Doing whatever Putin told him to.
His energy policy would have been a war crime.
His only economic policy was to give himself a tax cut, a COVID "loan," and to have the Fed spend trillions keeping the share market afloat.

And here we have Denialism.

From the same persons who insists that we have to give the NZ Labour Government credit for screwing us over slightly less than most of the world screwed themselves over...

So, on the Economic front - the best economy since the post war boom (prior to Covid, obviously). That's from the left-leaning 'fact checkers' - even if it wasn't 'the greatest ever' as Trump said, his policy worked, right up until Covid.

Border Security Policy - it was more than 'a couple of miles' - but let's defer to the BBC, another left-leaning institute:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56255613



Now, with the exception of a spike in 2019, Trump had consistently low illegal migration to the US. Wall or no Wall. After the Election, you can see it start to ramp up again until the flood gates opened with Biden.

Edit: And let's not forget what the Migrants themselves said - 'Biden told us to come, so we are coming'

Foreign Policy - Funny, I said nothing about Ze Germans. I actually cited what I think is his biggest success - not starting any new stupid wars. In addition, he signed peace deals in the Middle East, made North Korea behave themselves for a bit, kept Putin in check (again, Putin invaded Ukraine first under Obama, then under Biden - he didn't do shit whilst Trump was president) and was pushing back against China.

Energy Policy was a War Crime? I expected denial, but this sounds borderline Conspiratorial - pray tell Pritch, how does making the US a net exporter of Energy constitute a War Crime?

Could he tell me exactly what Wokeness is? Probably not. I doubt he's read the Academic works that comprise the modern intersectional world view that is broadly referred to as 'Woke', however he has correctly pointed out that it is anti-American and he's pushed back on it. Which is good enough for me.

[pete376403]

America NEEDS the migrants, legal or otherwise.You may recall after the crackdown on illegals, fields of vegetables rotting because there was no-one to pick them

https://www.voanews.com/a/us-farmers...44/162082.html

[TheDemonLord]

America NEEDS the migrants, legal or otherwise.You may recall after the crackdown on illegals, fields of vegetables rotting because there was no-one to pick them

https://www.voanews.com/a/us-farmers...44/162082.html

Sounds awfully similar to the line:

"If there are no slaves, who will pick the Cotton?"

You'll note that the article was written in 2010.

I mean, I have a very simple solution - if there are many jobs, but no one wants to work them - then those people who are otherwise unemployed clearly have another source of income - so you take away benefits until those positions are filled...

[husaberg]

Jobs — The economy has added nearly 2.2 million jobs in the most recent 12 months. It has gained jobs for 75 straight months – the longest streak on record.

President Barack Obama was not so fortunate. When he took office, the economy had already lost 4.4 million jobs in the preceding 12 months.

During Obama’s first 13 months, the economy continued to shed another 4.3 million jobs. But as Trump enters office, employers are eager to hire millions more. The number of job openings continues to hold at near record levels.

The most recent figures show that as of the last business day in November, there were more than 5.5 million unfilled job openings — double the number in the month Obama took office in 2009.

The highest ever recorded in the nearly 16 years the Bureau of Labor Statistics has tracked this figure was in April 2016, when job openings topped 5.8 million. The figure has now been above 5 million every month for 22 months in a row.

Unemployment — Obama also leaves Trump an unemployment rate that is well below the historical norm.

Currently it stands at 4.7 percent. In all the months since 1948 the median jobless rate was 5.6 percent.

Thus Trump has been dealt a far better hand than Obama, who took office when the jobless rate was 7.8 percent and rising. It hit a peak of 10 percent in October of Obama’s first year.

[pete376403]

Sounds awfully similar to the line:

"If there are no slaves, who will pick the Cotton?"

You'll note that the article was written in 2010.

I mean, I have a very simple solution - if there are many jobs, but no one wants to work them - then those people who are otherwise unemployed clearly have another source of income - so you take away benefits until those positions are filled...

Love to see how that would fly, regardless of which government tried it. The unemployed may not have much but they have their guns.