Trump - 4 more years of this at least...

[TheDemonLord]

That is 10 investigations into the exact same thing
Most of the investigations into trump are warrented, more on that later.

I'm sure if I was to look into the detail of each investigation, then we would see each one was focused on a different aspect - but let's presume that it was 10 investigations about the exact same thing:

On the base facts, what Hillary did with her email server was worse than what Trump has done at Mar-A-Lago:

1: It deliberately bypassed corporate security policy
2: When subpeoned, the data was mysteriously 'lost'

Ahem, trump taking home classified documents after getting sacked from the job?

You mean "Issuing a Memo that he's taking home a number of boxes and declassifying them as was his right as President up until the inauguration", that the FBI knew about, asked him to put a lock on the door and await for further instruction?

Bit of a different story.

A great example of your chicanery. I talk about republicans having to embrace the big lie to get an endorsement, and you pivot to what im guessing is the Republican lot that honorably voted for impeachment? You have no answer, so change the question and answer that. Very magat.

See, if the voters were as concerned as you are about it, then surely they would reject the candidates that Trump endorsed and the ones who, according to you, participated in 'the big lie'

Yet, they have not. Whether the entire Republican voterbase believes the election was outright rigged or they are merely skeptical of some of the abnormalities - the voters are clearly not as invested.

I'm pointing to the impeachment as an example of the voters making their thoughts and feelings known at the ballot box for they think of the RINOs that betrayed their party.

The dem voters are already so dissolutioned, their voting numbers are already lower than usual for the mid terms. So your assertions are already skewed. 50 failed court cases and such things as tbe magat besed arizona investigations actually finding more votes for Biden only points to your big black mark being the big arse partisan eyepatch covering not just your eye, but a large part of your brain too.

Why are they disillusioned? Surely Biden has been the best President ever?

I can tell you why they are disillusioned: The absolute failure of Biden is proving to them that Trump wasn't that bad. That their lives were better under Trump and they cannot bear to admit that to themselves.

They are disillusioned, because the ideological cows have come home to roost and the wider public is pushing back on it - they know they are about to pay for their metaphorical crimes against the country and all that power and influence is about to be yeeted away from them.

And I cannot wait.

As for the court cases - Again, I've acknowledged that I cannot meet the 'beyond all reasonable doubt' burden of proof to win a court case. As a single example - you want me to believe that Joe Biden got a greater share of the Black vote than the first Black president of the US... Seems Legit.

I mean, that would make a great Tui ad....

Now, more to all the investigations into trump. Being bought up by a white surpremisist father with no shortage of dodgyness, means trump is pretty much preprogrammed to dishonesty.

The only 'evidence' that Fred Trump was a white supremecist was him being arrested at a KKK rally... in the 1920s the details do not confirm whether he was there as part of the Klan.

Even then - the 1920s, I think there is a 'Man of the times' defence here. Not saying it's right - only that the Klan in the 1920s was much more... 'Socially acceptable' than in later years. Again, to be clear - Klan is bad and was always bad.

There's no other solid evidence that he was a White Supremacist. He even changed his Moustache style because the one he favored was worn by one Adolf...

His ex fixer lawyer detailed in depth how trump was schooled by one particular dodgy lawyer known to be one of the slipery operators ever (name escapes me now) into all the ways of disposing of dirty evidence and setting up lackies to take the fall. As per half his campaign team ending up in jail during the course of an investigation that you have been desperately trying to sell us as being a witch hunt.

Considering the impetus for the investigation was a lie, I'm more than happy to say 'Fruit of the Rotten tree' and hand waive it all away.

But since I know that won't give you satisfaction, how about this: Guilt by association.

Now before you start the inevitable wall of chicanery by stating Cohen is a liar etc, consider, that is the pedigree trump was seeking out when hiring him, and was happy enough with the quality of his work for more than a decade.
Trump absolutely is a criminal, and one day, i believe he will have the convictions to prove it.

And if that day never comes, if despite all the investigations, all the witch hunts, all the BS accusations that no conviction is forthcoming, then what?

Will you admit that you were wrong all this time - afterall - you proudly proclaim that loosing 50 court cases must mean something, so if the same is true for Trump that he's not been convicted in 50 court cases or 100 court cases or 1,000 - then what?

See - for all the accusations you levy at me - allow me to fire one back:

That last statements sounds like regardless of the evidence, regardless of acquittals, you have already decided Trump won the ele... sorry 'is a criminal'

You give me a hard time (as is only fair) when I say I have doubts about the Election, for a multitude of reasons - yet my position is far softer on that issue than your position is on Trump - so do I give you an equally hard time?

[1/32 man]

Quote Originally Posted by 1/32 man View Post
You better help me there...

I have seen the armed guard at the gate but you better show me some of the FBI with guns out entering the house or I am doubting you.
Do you think they took their Rifles out of the car to pose for photos in front of the gate before securely storing them back in their vehicles?

Cause that is what you would have to believe for that statement to be true....

No pictures from you, TDL.....your credibility is zero.

You know the saying," Pictures or it didnt happen"

I guess it didn't happen.

[TheDemonLord]

No pictures from you, TDL.....your credibility is zero.

You know the saying," Pictures or it didnt happen"

I guess it didn't happen.

So, I post a Google search, that shows multiple different pictures of armed agents outside of his home - and this somehow means that there wasn't armed Agents...


Okay....

[pritch]

On the base facts, what Hillary did with her email server was worse than what Trump has done at Mar-A-Lago:


2: When subpeoned, the data was mysteriously 'lost'

I can't be bothered reading your post, this is nonsense overload right there.

Stealing thousands of documents many of which were highly classified and none of which he was entitled to, is more serious than having a private email server. Don't start going on about his magic declassifying of documents by simply thinking about it. That's completely ridiculous.

Trump family and aids were using encrypted apps on their private cellphones so they are in no position to talk about Clinton.

According to the then FBI Director, zero Clinton emails were lost. The Emails Trump and others like yourself are endlessly banging on about were the emails relating to grandkids and such. The FBI had weeded them out as not being of interest.

[husaberg]

I can't be bothered reading your post, this is nonsense overload right there.

Ya getting there.......

[1/32 man]

They say you cannot argue with a trumper....even when you use facts.

armed agents outside of his home

Exactly ....."outside" when you suggested something else in your previous post, "at gun point" wasnt it?
Show me a picture of the FBI with guns drawn inside the house....not outside the boundary at the gate.....if you can?
And don't use a Sharpie to draw a gun on anyone.

Too bad, never mind, I will go and have my hamberder and covfefe at gunpoint where I will reminder bigly about how trump knows more and is more about absolutely everything ....and possibly more than that.

"Wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it. Right is right even if no one is doing it"

[pritch]

Big turnout in the US. Most polls and the "experts" predict Republican gains in one or both houses The final polls of some major news organisations showed different results. Some of these organisations considered their own poll an outlier and wrote that the Democrats are in trouble. Others predicted a Republican win and didn't even mention their own poll.

Problem is that in the light of all these "expert" opinions, anything but a Democrat loss is going to completely fuck with the heads of the MAGA crowd. They'll never believe the election wasn't rigged.

Of course the next couple of weeks will be interesting too. Will Trump announce he is running, or will he be indicted?

I have popcorn.

[TheDemonLord]

Stealing thousands of documents many of which were highly classified and none of which he was entitled to, is more serious than having a private email server.

No, it's not.

Firstly, he didn't steal anything - I've posted the Memo, he said he was taking boxes to Mar-A-Lago and declassifying them, whilst he was still in office as is his 100% right to do.

Secondly, having an insecure server that is outside of the Corporate IT Security policy that has access (even if that access is via the end-user nodes) to the secure infrastructure is the single biggest 'No No'. Especially when said server is compromised by state actors. That is far more serious, because the scope of damage is far greater than just having physical access to the documents.

Don't start going on about his magic declassifying of documents by simply thinking about it. That's completely ridiculous.

It is Ridiculous... And True. There is no process the President has to follow to declassify a document.

None.

Trump family and aids were using encrypted apps on their private cellphones so they are in no position to talk about Clinton.

So not their work phones then? Not the ones connected to the Secure network? Put the Red Herring down and move along.

According to the then FBI Director, zero Clinton emails were lost. The Emails Trump and others like yourself are endlessly banging on about were the emails relating to grandkids and such. The FBI had weeded them out as not being of interest.

The FBI does not have that right to supersede a Subpoena. That would be a task for a Judge to review and then exclude the evidence. Not the FBI.

Thanks for confirming that something criminal happened and that the FBI was playing favorites.

[TheDemonLord]

Exactly ....."outside" when you suggested something else in your previous post, "at gun point" wasnt it?
Show me a picture of the FBI with guns drawn inside the house....not outside the boundary at the gate.....if you can?
And don't use a Sharpie to draw a gun on anyone.

So, you want me to believe that they took their rifles out, posed for pictures, and never took them inside? Does that seem remotely logical to you?

The pictures we have are all from the street and show armed cops inside the perimeter. Unlike Pritch's claim, we can clearly see armed Agents.

[TheDemonLord]

Big turnout in the US. Most polls and the "experts" predict Republican gains in one or both houses The final polls of some major news organisations showed different results. Some of these organisations considered their own poll an outlier and wrote that the Democrats are in trouble. Others predicted a Republican win and didn't even mention their own poll.

Problem is that in the light of all these "expert" opinions, anything but a Democrat loss is going to completely fuck with the heads of the MAGA crowd. They'll never believe the election wasn't rigged.

Of course the next couple of weeks will be interesting too. Will Trump announce he is running, or will he be indicted?

I have popcorn.

I have popcorn too, My prediction is a bloodbath.

[R650R]

Let’s hope the dems win so they don’t have to resort to “mainly peaceful protests...”

[TheDemonLord]

Let’s hope the dems win so they don’t have to resort to “mainly peaceful protests...”

Nah, I'm taking the Tim Poole position on this - if they want to have 'mostly peaceful protests' then hopefully an army of Kyle Rittenhouse's will be there to show them what 'find out' means.

[Laava]

Bit dodgy eh?

Yes. Yes he is. He is a lizard dipped in shit!

[Stylo]

Yes. Yes he is. He is a lizard dipped in shit!

Watching the Mid terms with interest.

[husaberg]

Let’s hope the dems win so they don’t have to resort to “mainly peaceful protests...”

the overwhelming majority of the more than 9.000 Black Lives Matter demonstrations that took place across the US after the killing of George Floyd have been peaceful. News reports at the height of demonstrations over Floyd’s killing cited dozens of deaths in connection with protests, but many of those turned out to be examples of deadly crimes carried out in the vicinity of protests, rather than directly related to the demonstrations themselves, the researchers concluded. ACLED’s dataset only focuses on political violence.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...l-unrest-acled

Whats really ironic is most of the people killed were killed by "right wing gun enthusiasts"
but hey you never let facts get in the way of a good troll....