Carnage Loop

[Jiminy]

Exactly. I also note that those most in need of an attitude adjustment refuse to check out the results in the morgue when offered the chance.
Easy to ignore words, harder to do so with a real live (sic) vision of mortality. ????

Drifting a bit off topic here, but I had a thought on my last trip. When preparing for the Basic Handling Skills, our instructor had a few pictures of what can be done with a bike. What about a few more of what happens when you take the road for a track? Doesn't need to be morbid, just some thought-provoking pictures before sending unskilled riders on the road...

[MDR2]

my only worry is that new people to biking and to the site might think he's some sort of cool bastard and think he has some useful advice.

No worries of that here. (being relatively new myself)

[emaN]

i stand corrected: North West?

nope.
he crashed in eastern europe, Estonia i think, while racing at an event 'as a favour' kinda thing - they'd asked him to participate to increase the exposure of the event. i think he was racing a 125 or 250.

i cracked up when Skiddy wrote "do not comment on what you don't understand"
isn't this from the guy who only posts "when he deems it necessary?!"

[puddy]

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

......war poetry...............shit Siegfried, we are evolving! Thought I was on the wrong website!

[idleidolidyll]

got a point on topic or just trying to start an argument over nothing?

i've already corrected my post on the one point but again, that changes nothing about the content in releation to the Coro Loop.

to boast that you are some kind of expert and 'know' a 200 kilometer road so well you can ride it knee down with impunity is just signalling to the world that you are very likely to be seriously injured or killed on that road.

btw: i post when i want to, not at the whim of people i don't know and/or don't respect

[puddy]

having known Bruce for a long time and ridden with him on many occasions he would have to rate as one of the worst riders I have ever known, he was crashing all the time, he was always in trouble with the cops and lastly he died riding and killed DSS3 by doing a dumshite wheelie into a corner.
I know as I was there watching him Knee on the ground and exiting on one wheel ..................... good rider NAH!

and for those that want more info (always keen to repeat for the bennifit of slowing some riders down) Check out this nice Coro Loop report

http://quasizxrquasimoto.spaces.live.com/

It probably won't win you friends or anything, but hat off to you for saying so! Didn't know the people involved, but every time somebody speaks, or writes about the incident, it's like they were taken before their time through no fault of anybody's etc. The first time somebody told me about it my first thought was 'well somebody fucked up' ............ No disrespect to family or friends, but......................

[Unit:Me]

it is also the hype, makes people think that it is special and they can try that stuff on inside its limits. I almost went down because of it, and it was only words that sidecar bob gave me that stoped me pushing

Agreed re the reputation of the Coro, I know when we were living up north and it wasnt right on our doorstep it was portrayed as a race track road to be revered. Also remember, this is an international tourist destination, tourists who in their home country drive on the wrong side of the road, and their natural instinct when they get a scare (aggressive motorcyclists passing at warp speed within inches of them) is to revert to what they naturally know, drive on the wrong side of our roads.
We have ridden the coro a few times now especially since moving to the BOP. Usually if its a big group ride Chris and I both quietly scout the group for the potential riders we believe will most likely bin. Unfortunately, Ive managed to pick a few of them at the pre ride gathering, a talent I would rather not have. And as for my own riding, generally Im a very safe and cautious rider. However, yesterday I pushed it a little harder, and I made a very poor judgment call to overtake another car, worst Ive made and outside of my normal behaviour. I believe I am lucky to be sitting here today, and I know it was close as a good KB friend/rider was behind me and he was unsettled by what he saw.
We all need to respect our roads at all times, and this piece of road especially given the tightness of much of the stretches of road.

[MSTRS:Me]

Even us "cautious riders" aren't above doing something silly at times.
Glad to hear you got away with it Annette.

[yungatart]

I've never ridden the Coro Loop, very much doubt that I ever will.
Why? Because I don't want to be on any road that is treated like a race track by a whole section of the community.
I have read many threads/posts about the Loop on KB and been shocked by the speeds some people claim they attain on a PUBLIC ROAD. That kind of attitude does not belong on a road, take it to the track, and until you can all do that, I choose to stay away.

[Unit:Me]

Even us "cautious riders" aren't above doing something silly at times.
Glad to hear you got away with it Annette.

My point exactly and you picked up on it. Also I noticed I was bloody exhausted when we got home yesterday. Now I often do 400kms at a time Tauranga to Whangarei, at night in winter after a long week at work, but I was more shattered by the 300ish Kms we did yesterday through those coro twisties.

[Pussy]

i stand corrected: North West?

of course that doesn't change a thing, too many extremely experienced riders have been killed on that road and to say you can 'know' it completely is ridiculous.

No argument from me on that one!!

[idleidolidyll]

i can see the coro loop becoming a place i avoid like highway 16 north of auckland

too many motorcyclists doing dumb stuff and too many accidents.
the cops will blame speed when they end up filling it with speed cameras, unmarked cars and 'WOF checks'.

that's an excuse of course; it aint the speed, it's the ignorance, stupidity and bravado. If it were about speed, Shumacher and Aaron Slight would be already dead.

so the upshot?: dumb bikers will have fucked it up for us all

[Katman]

so the upshot?: dumb bikers will have fucked it up for us all

There's quite a few of us saying exactly that these days.

[Mully]

isn't this from the guy who only posts "when he deems it necessary?!"

Wasn't Skidtard also leaving, then not leaving, then leaving again??

[Forest]

Agreed re the reputation of the Coro, I know when we were living up north and it wasnt right on our doorstep it was portrayed as a race track road to be revered.

I've seen that attitude as well.

Which makes me wonder how many other race-tracks come complete with tractors, boat trailers, and campervans.