Power to weight restriction

[steved]

Damnit! no ZXRs, CBRs or GPXs!? now how am i supposed to look like a rebel?

Umm, the only 250s excluded will be the two smokers (NSR, KR etc). CBR250, ZXR250, TZR250 etc will all be allowed if these proposals are adopted into law.

[jimmy 2006]

still nothing on when this will be implemented??

[2fst4u]

Umm, the only 250s excluded will be the two smokers (NSR, KR etc). CBR250, ZXR250, TZR250 etc will all be allowed if these proposals are adopted into law.

yea. i was reading the one that had them grouped by make and didnt see the "250" section. my bad

[Weaver]

So has anyone heard any news about when these laws will/might be coming into effect?

[RiderInBlack]

So has anyone heard any news about when these laws will/might be coming into effect?

2010 so I had read.

See:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0803/S00490.htm
When will the changes occur?
The proposals will require changes to the Land Transport Driver Licensing and Road User rules and Land Transport Offences and Penalties Regulations. Amendments to these are included in the 07/08 rules programme and there will be a chance to comment on the proposals as part of the rules consultation process.

And
http://www.transport.govt.nz/ris-bccs/
Motorcycle Safety (PDF, 85kb) end of page 6 and start of page 7

[The Flux Capacita]

sweet deal as long as i can still sell my bike for lots when i'm finnished with it...would be pissed if it suddenly became illegal for restricted and learners its not even that powerfull!!!!

are there any changes to the restricted transition?

[quickbuck]

Umm, the only 250s excluded will be the two smokers (NSR, KR etc). CBR250, ZXR250, TZR250 etc will all be allowed if these proposals are adopted into law.

Last time I looked, a TZR is a two stroke.

So, NSR, RGV, TZR, KR1, and RS etc will be band for learners.

[swbarnett]

2010 so I had read. ...

From Motorcycle-Safety-RIS.pdf:

... as part of the implementation of the Road Safety to 2010 strategy and will coincide with the introduction of amending legislation in 2008.

The 2010 is simply part of the name of the strategy. Implementation is planned for 2008 according to this.

[Swoop]

... as part of the implementation of the Road Safety to 2010 strategy and will coincide with the introduction of amending legislation in 2008.
The 2010 is simply part of the name of the strategy.

I'm reading that as "the public servants will start writing, amending and then will submit the paperwar to parliament during 2008". The retards in Wellington's circular wind-tunnel, will then form committees and sub-committees to discuss this, then will go on overseas holidays (oops! "FACT FINDING TOURS") to see how the rest of the world applies these rules.

Don't expect to see anything of substane until 2010...

[swbarnett]

I'm reading that as "the public servants will start writing, amending and then will submit the paperwar to parliament during 2008". The retards in Wellington's circular wind-tunnel, will then form committees and sub-committees to discuss this, then will go on overseas holidays (oops! "FACT FINDING TOURS") to see how the rest of the world applies these rules.

Don't expect to see anything of substane until 2010...

Yes, I think you're right. I was being overly optimistic me thinks.

[23226]

Now a learner on a turboed bike. Now there's street cred.

If the CX ends up on NZ list of approved bikes this means we're not going to have to another bike for Connie to get her m/c licence.

I think we need to read his statement carefully :
QUOTE
"has now been duplicated in a number of other
Australian states. In terms of ease of implementation and working
with bike importers and distributors the most expedient option
for New Zealand is to also duplicate the NSW LAMS model and use
their approved list of motorcycles."
End Quote

My interpretation is that there is no "NZ" list,
they are intending to use the aussie list for NZ.

IMO This is not as it should be, and should not be a cause for celebration for the NZ motorcycling fraternity.

There are many issues at stake but simply pricing bikes out of peoples hands could be an intended consequence if the list remains as such.

[Titanium]

I think we need to read his statement carefully :

There are many issues at stake but simply pricing bikes out of peoples hands could be an intended consequence if the list remains as such.

Such as the 250 cc learner market currently is in New Zealand?

This policy opens up the scope to a larger number of complying motorcycles for learners.

What it will do is thake the heat out of the 250 cc market.

I guess there is a happiness of paying through the roof for 20 year old 250 cc bikes in NZ!

[WelshWizard]

Such as the 250 cc learner market currently is in New Zealand?

This policy opens up the scope to a larger number of complying motorcycles for learners.

What it will do is thake the heat out of the 250 cc market.

I guess there is a happiness of paying through the roof for 20 year old 250 cc bikes in NZ!

Well the main problem is all those out there who have paid the blackmail price for all the 250 relics out there,
As far as I am concerned it will give more balance to the second hand market, but there will be one hell of a lot of dealers out there with overprice 250's left on their hands.

[twotyred]

Well the main problem is all those out there who have paid the blackmail price for all the 250 relics out there,
As far as I am concerned it will give more balance to the second hand market, but there will be one hell of a lot of dealers out there with overprice 250's left on their hands.

I expect it will also push the secondhand price of the 400-650 class up... get 'em now!

[PirateJafa]

What it will do is thake the heat out of the 250 cc market.

I guess there is a happiness of paying through the roof for 20 year old 250 cc bikes in NZ!

Well the main problem is all those out there who have paid the blackmail price for all the 250 relics out there,
As far as I am concerned it will give more balance to the second hand market, but there will be one hell of a lot of dealers out there with overprice 250's left on their hands.

Not at all - owners of the sports two-fiddys will not lose out in the slightest.

If you look at the >250 bikes on the list, they mostly singles and slow.

If a learners wants to get a fast bike, he/she will still be looking for a ZXR or CBR, and will still be willing to pay the same prices we do now.

To put it simply - nothing is going to change for anyone barring cruiser riders. And 250 2-smokers.