Disbelief at what I heard

[Macstar]

I reckon this is all your fault for buying a honda

Shucks! Had I known....

[Squiggles]

Shucks! Had I known....

exactly, this event may have set off a chain of events... leading to the apocalypse!!!

[klyong82]

exactly, this event may have set off a chain of events... leading to the apocalypse!!!

fun and games people!!

[CookMySock]

Want me to fill you in on a little secret? I wasn't at the stand

Good. Why then are YOU arguing with me ? My comments were directed at those blokes who etc etc re-read ^ .

DB

[shingo]

Good. Why then are YOU arguing with me ? My comments were directed at those blokes who etc etc re-read ^ .

DB

Probably for the same reason you argue with people, just to get a rise out of them.

[Chrislost]

What I said was that it was an overreaction to start talking about company reps coming down to the quad and suing people because they didn't like what was being said.

uhhh.
your taking the piss right??
"company reps coming down to the quad and suing people"

did somebody say that?

[FROSTY:Me]

I think its important to look at who you are talking with when discussing open face lids/gloves etc.
For a young lady the possible (perceived) concequence of a face plant and grinding her nose off on the concrete may (should) have more effect that telling her to wear stout shoes and good gloves.
Its the old story its not what ya say its how ya say it

[NordieBoy]

"Now miss, put this full face helmet on and I'll hit you in the face with this 4x2"
Thud!
"Now that wasn't too bad was it? Now we'll try it with the open face..."
Hello!
Where did she go?

[ital916]

uhhh.
your taking the piss right??
"company reps coming down to the quad and suing people"

did somebody say that?

I was taking the piss when I made that comment but hanne seems to have taken it seriously haha.

[boomer]

Yer faggots the bane of destruction of the pillars of common sense.....really disgusts me...

Take a look at this List A of hypothetical chronological situations:
- acknowledgement: Be careful, scooters/mopeds are motorcycle and there are risks
- advice: Budget $xxx for jackets, gloves, helmets, etc
- warning: Open face helmets are dangerous
- imposition: Don't buy open face helmets
- prohibition: Those who are not wearing full face helmets should be banned
- outrageous: motorcycling is too dangerous and should be banned

Or this List B of hypothetical chronological situations:
- acknowledgement: there are health risk in increased sugar intake
- advice: it is advisable to control your sugar intake by staying away from certain food
- warning: sweet candies and chocolate bars carry high percentage of sugar
- imposition: We should control sweet food sales
- prohibition: selling sweet food around schools should not be allowed
- outrageous: we should make laws to tell people what they can and cannot eat for their own sakes.

Similar process...I hope none of youse ever have powers to make changes in the society because I for sure still want to decide for my own fate.
God gave me free will. Who are you to take it away?

im hearing that!


Who is this group of people giving there opinions as advice!???


IDJIOTS !

[EJK]

No harm Dush, but.... You are kinda sounding like skiddy tbh...

[ital916]

im hearing that!


Who is this group of people giving there opinions as advice!???


IDJIOTS !

Well marmoot fucking summed it up innit, this is what I was saying, who are we as the people at the stand to tell "newbies" what and what not to buy, once the risks and pros and cons of the products are told to people let them make up their own mind. Free will, let people use it, I think it's stupid how the ideas about open face helmets were told to people. If the girl knows the risks but still loves open face helmets, then that is her choice! *not any girl in particular just an example*. EJ you've gone from adding constructive criticism to just back seat heckling.

*comment removed due to the probability of pissing everyone off*. The idead is that we neither should have or can impose our opinons on the choices given to motorcylists. We can say hey I don't like it but you know the risks go for gold. Not I don't like it, it sucks, It will kill you, I know this cos a friend of a friend died,therefore if you wear one you will die.

[Squiggles]

Even at the friday night chiller, I got screamed at again cos the club in it's infinite bloody wisdom as knowers of everything motorcycling good or bad couldn't see around the bloody open face helmet example used in the thread.

That whole post is so sad its not even funny

[The Stranger:Me]

Well marmoot fucking summed it up innit, this is what I was saying, who are we as the people at the stand to tell "newbies" what and what not to buy,


once the risks and pros and cons of the products are told to people let them make up their own mind.

Who are we? The voice of experience, that's who. Who better for a noob to listen to?

You're confusing the 2 issues.
Did anyone force her to buy a full face helmet?
Or did they very strongly recommend it?
If she was forced to buy the full face helmet then I am right there with you.

You guys were not a sales situation, there was no need to hold back the truth, let her know straight.
I bought an open face helmet for pillion use, then saw a photo of a person with no bottom jaw. Needless to say it's never been used on a bike, I wouldn't wear it and as such wouldn't let a pillion on one of my bikes with one on.
Had the salesman been straight up with me, I would have preferred this and wouldn't have bought it.

Do you have your salesman hat on per chance?

[The Stranger:Me]

Well marmoot fucking summed it up innit,

Well he did sum it up, but missed another point.
ACC have a stated position of pricing motorcycles off the road.
Our resistrations are higher for that reason.
We are one of the only classifications where the no blame policy has been waived, again, to help them meet that end.
So far we have been lucky, however, the higher the safety standards, the lower the cost to ACC the better the chance of keeping motorcycles on the road.