What a cock

[Patch]

If you're one of these two wheeled clowns who splits all the way to the front of the lights, give way and then pulls in front of the 'first car in line' at some queer angle, WTF do you expect him to do?

What gives you the right to jump the queue??


I've seen plenty of these two-wheeled clowns wanting to be first only to be 'almost collected' by some dick running the red light.


If you split the queue, sit one or two cars back from the front, people don't get shitty, you're not sitting in the pedestrian crossing and you don't run the risk of being hit by a red light runner.


And yes, I've been one of those driver's who has almost or nearly hit one of these two-wheeled fuckwits. What do they expect when they insist on driving up the inside of my truck (stopping beside me where I can't see them) and I'm indicating to turn left.

Most of these clowns/dangerous little shits I have witnessed have been ridng 2 fiddys or scooters. Go figure. Some of these clowns do manage (somehow) to make it to a bigger bike, tho there dangerous habits do not change.


If you put yourself in a dangerous position then you must be prepared to deal with the consequences.

[Forest]

crap....lost my post when firefox decided to crash...

ah it was a station wagon, possibly subaru, dark blue, pretty average looking, mid 90s?

I really cant remember the number I thought JDK352 but there arent any JDK iirc

the thing is I wasnt really in his lane, the gap between the cars was massive, and my wheels were actually in the other lane, I had no intention of using his lane (not that he's to know that) but i managed to leave the other cars behind so all they had to do was accelerate like normal really.

if i remember his rego I'll make a complaint but i was so busy thinking of his rego on the way home that i kind of forgot it? like i started rhyming it chanting it in my head until I could scribble it down then I pulled onto durham north and thought "shit...ASJ? JAS? AJS? JFK? kennedy? fuck"

I can guarantee that it was a Legacy wagon.

For reasons I don't entirely understand, the Legacy is the car of choice for fuckwits.

[insomnia01]

I've been in a very similar situation where a driver cut me off not once but 3 times !!! I thought " &UCK YOU gun slinger" & then the hunter became the the hunted. I followed him for a few kms doing no crazy shit just sitting there freaked the shit out of him & then reported him to the cops for reckless driving, don't no if he was fined or not but he got my point.

[JMemonic]

Bleeding heck hasn't this brought out a couple of rants.

For those who don't know Fitzgerald ave is one of the roads that the silly council messed with the lights with to slow the "boy racers" down on, no green wave on this road, actually there are some (most) one way roads here that don't seem to follow that principle any more.

The combination of this and the inclement weather I guess could piss some folks off, however there seems to be a select few that consider the fact a bike can (even if it doesn't) lane split as a requirement consider it as a target and more so on a grey day where the hormone levels are a little off and their meds are not working any little thing will set them off and a guy on a bike that

a) can get through the traffic
b) be used as a source of fun
c) is different to a car therefore the owner is different (xenophobia)
d) has no physical barrier to them inflicting pain, injury, or damage to the rider.

is a prime target to take out their frustrations on, hell Dave might not have had to lane split to set this clown off, he might have just been an aggressive idiot have a bad day who saw a motorcycle and thought that will be fun to harass the rider, even funnier if he/she can cause injury.

Hell not so long ago I posted this, I now suspect it had more to do with the little precipitation having the above mentioned affects.

Scumdog pointed out the issue with passing on the info to the police, basicly they have no show of proving anything, and I guess here also a lack of resources to put into any sort of investigation, however would be nice if someone has the correct details a letter could be sent stating we have had a complaint of your actions and although are not at this time pursuing the matter we will not this on your driving record, if they get enough complaints, or the person is involved in an accident, then perhaps this history could be useful.

[Mikkel]

Was new to living in Auckland back in 1992, wasn't really into bikes at that stage, sitting in traffic on Queen st, a biker splits us to the front where he promptly nuts off at the driver at the front of the cue yelling "IF YOU DONT USE IT YOU DON'T NEED IT" & then kicks his wing mirror off. I remember sitting there thinking to myself, "well he must of done something pretty bad to piss him off so much". Not once did I think badly about bikers. Would have to be a pretty small minded person to actually think ALL of a cross section of society were "bad" from witnessing one particular person. Tis one of the flaws with Katmans rantings, he assumes ALL bikers are being branded with the same brush if a biker is seen doing something silly. One hell of an assumption

Oh, for the most part I agree. But Boob - you're a special breed... after all you came around to the dark side eventually

I'm pretty sure that the average conservative middleaged Christchurch lady is not going to give the black clad hoon on a dangerous motorcycle the benefit of the doubt.

I do kinda agree with the "IF YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU DON'T NEED IT" - because, actually they do - no WOF without it so they'll get some time to think about it. There's a difference between being oblivious to your surroundings and being directly aggressive to your fellow motorists. My point is just - if someone is already giving you agro I'm sure taking off their wing-mirror is only going to escalate the conflict.

I do enjoy playing at complete ignorance; sit next to some loud fast car revving its engine, light goes green, gently ease off (not looking at him once) and leave the guy behind. Few seconds later once you're up to the 50kph limit he comes screaming by at 70kph+. Don't look at him!. Pulls in front of you into your lane, joins the traffic queue at the next lights. Completely ignoring him, you dawdle back past him between the lanes at walking pace. So satisfying!

Yep - that's the way to do it. I usually don't waste time or attention on acknowledging car's presence unless they go out of their way to make my day easier (i.e. keep left in their lane or making the gap down the middle bigger when they see me - and that happens more often than the negative stuff ).

What gives you the right to jump the queue??

Actually the law gives you the right.
The bike gives you the ability.
And common sense gives you the moral obligation.

Even a semi-competent motorcyclist who lane splits is not going to hold anyone back and will take up less space in the scheme of things than a motorcyclist who insists on playing car.

[Patch]

Even a semi-competent motorcyclist who lane splits is not going to hold anyone back and will take up less space in the scheme of things than a motorcyclist who insists on playing car.

bull fucking shit.

Couple of times I've had some cock on a scooter or GN, park right in front of me (in my truck, wife's car) then do a complete lame I'm gonna fall off shortly start.
All they do is get in my way on takeoff and look like a right turd doing it.


If plod sees you splitting, they can and will ticket you for unsafe lane changing, failing to indicate etc etc.

Hardly a right now is it??


If you are splitting, there is no need to park in front of the first car. Like I see most fuckwits do. It only aggravates people as you are encroaching their space. Same thing you feel when someone buzzes past you reasonably close.
Why anyone on a bike wants to be first off the mark is beyond me, especially as people do run lights. It is only prudent to wait a couple cars, cross intersection safely then pass the 2-3 cars that were in front of you with a clear road now in front.

But hey, wtf do I know?


Common sense is not common at all.

[Deano]

If you're one of these two wheeled clowns who splits all the way to the front of the lights, give way and then pulls in front of the 'first car in line' at some queer angle, WTF do you expect him to do?
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I'd expect him to say "fuck that's a nice bike", or "pull a wheelie mister !!"

[Fatjim]

This problem is exactly why ICON made the titanium glove a few years back.

Go and lay a complaint .
You may not have the complete reg number, but if this guy has done it to you, he may have done it before to others, or will do it again.
With your complaint and discription, the police have reason to pull a vehicle matching your discription if it is seen acting in a stupid manor.
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Damn straight, he is lucky he picked on you Dave, you are obviously far too nice to do what you should of done. Fuck that for a joke, at MINIMUM he needs a visit from the 5-0

What he sez

You need more than you have number-wise if you expect the cops to do anything - and despite you impression it is not a 'serious' issue to most cops, nobody was hurt, no property damaged, a "Failed to Drive Within the Lane" type ticket most likely.

IF you do see it again and get the number you could call into the cop-shop and make a complaint - and then keep chasing it up, however it's a bit of a bun-fight looming I suspect as it's word-against-word unless you can find a witness..

You're fucked!
Even if you get a copper not on a donut break who will listen the stupid judge will throw it out.

You people sugesting Dave contacts the coppers, wast a time they wont give a shit and if they did theres nothing they can do.
Been in FAR worse suituations and achieved nothing through the cops, taking it into my own hands with the help of others (legally) well that went somewere.

ps: and its pointless abusing this guy with all the names that are being put forward, after all we all know it with out saying it.

What he said.

[Bikernereid]

The wanker's car thats giving you shit of course

damage? to who?

[dipshit]

Was new to living in Auckland back in 1992, wasn't really into bikes at that stage, sitting in traffic on Queen st, a biker splits us to the front where he promptly nuts off at the driver at the front of the cue yelling "IF YOU DONT USE IT YOU DON'T NEED IT" & then kicks his wing mirror off.

Maybe this is the driver Dave came across yesterday.

You get wankers on both cars and bikes you know.

[Toaster]

Burn him I reckon!

Now you have posted his rego others may be tempted to do the same.

Dont complain on here mate, take it to the cops.

Seriously if it was that bad, lay a formal complaint! Sometimes a reminder from officialdom will increase a car drivers ability to see bikers, and reason!

Absolutely! The more official traffic complaints on file the better!!

When this dick gets pulled over a good cop will check what he is known for - if there are lots of complaints/tickets then he will be given a harsh treatment because he clearly is too thick to learn his lesson.

[Mikkel]

bull fucking shit.

Couple of times I've had some cock on a scooter or GN, park right in front of me (in my truck, wife's car) then do a complete lame I'm gonna fall off shortly start.
All they do is get in my way on takeoff and look like a right turd doing it.

What part of semi-competent did you not get? Semi-competent means being able to accelerate away smoothly and rapidly without stalling... It's easy on a motorcycle.

I do however agree completely that if you can not get your arse out of the way - stick to "your space".

If plod sees you splitting, they can and will ticket you for unsafe lane changing, failing to indicate etc etc.

Hardly a right now is it??

Depends, you can lanesplit without breaking the rules and then it is potentially harrasment if an officer pulls you over, and even more so if he gives you a ticket.

You are allowed to pass any vehicle - stationary or moving on its right-hand side provided you stay within your lane.
You are allowed to pass any vehicle which is stationary or indicating to turn right on its left-hand side provided you stay within your lane.
There are grey areas - e.g. travelling half the length of a moving vehicle on its right-hand side inside the same lane while indicating - then travelling the other half of its length in the left-hand lane. (and the opposite scenario is of course the same)
Dark grey areas includes using bikelanes, service stations, sidewalks, etc. to increase your average speed from A to B.

So yes, if I play by the rules it's my right - or priviledge, call it what you want but it's nonetheless the reason I enjoy taking the bike to work.

If you are splitting, there is no need to park in front of the first car. Like I see most fuckwits do. It only aggravates people as you are encroaching their space. Same thing you feel when someone buzzes past you reasonably close.
Why anyone on a bike wants to be first off the mark is beyond me, especially as people do run lights. It is only prudent to wait a couple cars, cross intersection safely then pass the 2-3 cars that were in front of you with a clear road now in front.

When I split to the front (down the middle of course) and sit between two cars - about 95% of the time I have time to check both sides carefully and take off before either of the vehicles next to me have even started moving.

I really can't see the problem.

Common sense is not common at all.

It most certainly isn't. But neither is competence and efficiency.

[Ixion]

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What gives you the right to jump the queue??
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'Cos I'm on a motorbike. 'S sorta self evident, isn't it.

[Number One]

4 pages and NOT ONE SINGLE COCK...well actually there were a few but not like I was hoping for...False blardy advertising once again

[dipshit]

4 pages and NOT ONE SINGLE COCK...well actually there were a few but not like I was hoping for...False blardy advertising once again

It said "what a cock"... not 'want a cock?'