Note to guy on Bonnie going down Buckleys Rd

[FJRider]

Same reply to the same scenario (again).

If you want it to be freedom of choice, then all you have to do is sign the waiver that says that you opt out of the "system" and take full responsibilty for your actions.

That means that when you come off, Ambo, Police and Fire just leave you where you lay, better still don't turn out at all ... because the system has to pay for them.

Or turn out, and send them the bill after... regardless of the fact that he pays the same ACC levys you do...You get what you pay for... dont you...???

[Grub]

Or turn out, and send them the bill after... regardless of the fact that he pays the same ACC levys you do...You get what you pay for... dont you...???

Yep sort of. You get my drift though don't you.

A fully kitted rider may take a day in hosp, generally none at all, whereas Joe Freedom in shorts and T-shirt looses all his skin and spends 8 weeks in Hosp getting skin and bone grafts. So if you opt out of the system, then don't expect someone else to make it right when you screw up.

[FJRider]

Yep sort of. You get my drift though don't you.

A fully kitted rider may take a day in hosp, generally none at all, whereas Joe Freedom in shorts and T-shirt looses all his skin and spends 8 weeks in Hosp getting skin and bone grafts. So if you opt out of the system, then don't expect someone else to make it right when you screw up.

So if I spend a day at the beach, mid summer, get badly sunburnt, spend weeks in hospital (skin grafts etc), Do I have to pay because I didn't put sunblock...or a shirt on ...???

[Fatjim]

The gene pool has a way of sorting itself out in the end. Why hinder it?

[boomer]

I don't like the bit where the tough guy starts to cry when the grafts aren't taking and there is puss, blood and shit all over the place. Then the surgeon comes in and says sommit like "You ground it down to the bone son, and of course, because there's bone missing, it's hopeless, and we need to amputate"......

"WTF??"

"yes, both of them"

You won't look so cool on your Chinese mobility scooter mate. 4 kph max, downhill....Yahh, freedom to do what you want so fill your boots!...

Sung to the tune of Born to be Wild by Steppenwolf.

I hope you wear your safety gear and helmet everytime you get on a bus with no seat belts or get in teh car not upto international crash standards..!

Same reply to the same scenario (again).

If you want it to be freedom of choice, then all you have to do is sign the waiver that says that you opt out of the "system" and take full responsibilty for your actions.

That means that when you come off, Ambo, Police and Fire just leave you where you lay, better still don't turn out at all ... because the system has to pay for them.

Why... We all pay our way, dont we? I can understand your hostility if he had no acc or wof.. but if he's paid his dues hes entitled to it like anyone else?

Lets take your scenario a step further.. does everyone not driving a > 4* safety rating vehicle have to look after themselves if they crash..??!

[boomer]

I think he is just getting pissed off that as a tax and ACC levy payer he has to contribute to all the fuckwits that suffer more severe injury and prolonged rehab because they were stuopid, and we all have to pay for their rehab and care. The actions of others are in a way all our business becasue we pay premiums, taxes and levys to support the NZ no fault scheme and a public health system.

oh bullshit... its whinging for the sake of whinging. If he really cared he'd be campaigning teh goverment to legalise full safety wear all the time..! instead he whines like a bitch on here..

[JohnR]

You are a bloody idiot!

I saw you cruising down the road on your late model Triumph Bonnie (at about 3pm. 11/10/08). Sure, it is a warm day, but for fucks sake mate your safety equipment was near non existent save for your burgandy lid. Wearing shorts and a t-shirt just aint on. Sure, it's your skin at risk if ya come off, but who the fuck pays for your skin grafts etc? Ya know who...we all fucking do in our ACC levies and taxes. You are a fuckin moronic bastard without a clue!

What's your opinion on COMPULSORY headlight use...?

[flyingbrick]

What's your opinion on COMPULSORY headlight use...?

I wonder if he also is wearing a 5 star sharp rated helmet.

[Ixion]

It's really good to see so many people taking such a proactive interest in other peoples safety. I'm sure you all wear your hi-vis vests at all times ('t would be hypocritical not to), but in case you need a new one I can recommend the RSEA safety shops.

[Filter_nz]

I'm with Grub:

Same reply to the same scenario (again).

If you want it to be freedom of choice, then all you have to do is sign the waiver that says that you opt out of the "system" and take full responsibilty for your actions.

That means that when you come off, Ambo, Police and Fire just leave you where you lay, better still don't turn out at all ... because the system has to pay for them.

If you are lost in the bush and found by search and rescue (which I have been) and they find you got into the situation because of negligence on your part i.e Poor gear, no maps, didn't fill in hut log books, or doing something stupid (not sure on the criteria for that one) then you will have to pay for the rescue / helicopter call out. I haven’t heard of anyone personally having to pay but I have read on stuff.co.nz of people getting warnings.

In the same way if you require skin grafts because you didn't wear the right gear and it's coming out of my pocket via ACC levies then I'm adding you to "my list"

[homer]

I think he is just getting pissed off that as a tax and ACC levy payer he has to contribute to all the fuckwits that suffer more severe injury and prolonged rehab because they were stuopid, and we all have to pay for their rehab and care. The actions of others are in a way all our business becasue we pay premiums, taxes and levys to support the NZ no fault scheme and a public health system.

brings me to what i just said to someone the other day ....speed limits shouldnt apply , due to the fact if you have more fatals its cheaper.

[Kickaha]

You are a bloody idiot!

I saw you cruising down the road on your late model Triumph Bonnie (at about 3pm. 11/10/08). Sure, it is a warm day, but for fucks sake mate your safety equipment was near non existent save for your burgandy lid. Wearing shorts and a t-shirt just aint on. Sure, it's your skin at risk if ya come off, but who the fuck pays for your skin grafts etc? Ya know who...we all fucking do in our ACC levies and taxes. You are a fuckin moronic bastard without a clue!

So whats next?

Looking over people shoulders in resturants and criticsing them for not eating healthy food?

Whining at people on the beach on a sunny day for not wearing sunscreen?

Bitching at people crossing the street against the lights?

[BLazeD]

How do you know he wasn't riding 1 minute up the road?

[awayatc]

Most busybodies I know , usualy do so because their own lives are to boring and bland .....
They need somebody else's life to comment on instead....

Oh... and usualy they are old women....

[Usarka]

I saw a guy on a bike the other day without a bike protector and gloves. better make them compulsory too!