P/Methamphetamines

**scumdog** · 22nd November 2006, 15:51

Originally Posted by MrMelon

MDMA isn't as bad as you make it out to be. BZP, a much worse drug is still available in dairies. It just doesn't make sense.

PROPERLY made MDMA MAY not as bad as some make out - but them how do you know how well the batch was manufactured??? It's not like it is "USF&D Approved" eh?

And BZP? yeah not good - but still see more problems from booze and or a mixture of 'BZP party pills' and booze.

I guess my job does not let me see the 'good' side of drugs. (whatever THAT is!)

**scumdog** · 22nd November 2006, 15:53

Originally Posted by pervert

Are you saying I've fucked my life up, a big call to make when you know nothing about my personal situtation...???

Come to Otematata and tell the KBers there ALL about it, let us see for ourselves...

**scumdog** · 22nd November 2006, 15:56

Originally Posted by The_Dover

MDMA is MDMA.

it's the impurites that are dangerous.

speakee engrish?

No shit Sherlock!

So when you buy MDMA does your seller tell you "Disclaimer here, there may be some impurities in this MDMA I am about to sell you"?????????

**scumdog** · 22nd November 2006, 15:58

Originally Posted by MrMelon

Yeah totally.... those things are bad news. They're just too easy to get, cheap and the good effects are average at best and the bad effects are much worse than more illegal alternatives...

Oh well what can you do.

Hey, sounds like booze you're talking about!!

**The_Dover** · 22nd November 2006, 15:59

Originally Posted by scumdog

No shit Sherlock!

So when you buy MDMA does your seller tell you "Disclaimer here, there may be some impurities in this MDMA I am about to sell you"?????????

personally I wouldn't touch the shit, I get into enough trouble groping people as it is.

my point was that D50 was harping on about "eastern european MDMA" and failing to mention that it was actually eastern european ecstasy tablets that were the issue, due to impurities in the manufacture if the pills.

Absolutely fuck all to do with how the MDMA was synthesised.

Anyway, I thought you were Sherlock?

**Ixion** · 22nd November 2006, 16:28

Originally Posted by scumdog

No shit Sherlock!

So when you buy MDMA does your seller tell you "Disclaimer here, there may be some impurities in this MDMA I am about to sell you"?????????

Surely a reputable seller would provide a certificate of analysis from a certified testing laboratory ?

**Big Dave** · 22nd November 2006, 16:33

Originally Posted by Ixion

Surely a reputable seller would provide a certificate of analysis from a certified testing laboratory ?

And I thought I lived in Disneyland.

**KATWYN** · 22nd November 2006, 16:38

Originally Posted by Postie

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That poem is really good.

Not only did that young girl have looks and clearly she has talent

**ManDownUnder** · 22nd November 2006, 18:32

Originally Posted by pervert

Oh please tell me you lump weed and P in the same boat...or at least close...

That would just confirm everything I've said and make me oh so happy...

Marijuana is to P as petty theft is to armed robbery.

It's not the real deal, it's not as serious but is similar in nature and the two activities can be driven from the same basis (i.e. petty theft leads to armed burg. Dope can lead to P). The one tends to be a good, and typical entry point to the other.

Not every petty theif will go on to be an armed robber, as most dope smokers don't go on to be P addicts. They both have the potential to fuck you up something chronic, they both have the potential to destroy family and IMHO they're both best avoided.

Your thoughts?

**The_Dover** · 22nd November 2006, 18:38

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Not everyone smoking dope will go on to be an armed robber

Your thoughts?

"hey man, give me the fuckin grainwaves, 2 moro bars, 8 packets of twisties, 6 mince and cheese pies...................er......and a packet of green rizla"

"and carry them to the car for me dude......"

**ManDownUnder** · 22nd November 2006, 18:54

Originally Posted by The_Dover

"hey man, give me the fuckin grainwaves, 2 moro bars, 8 packets of twisties, 6 mince and cheese pies...................er......and a packet of green rizla"

"and carry them to the car for me dude......"

LOL... bugger - duly edited.

Hey at the risk of getting this back on topic. Any thing to be done for MrPeanut?

**Biff** · 22nd November 2006, 19:06

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Big drug in England is methylenedioxymethamphetamine better known as ecstasy.

Stuff over there can fuck you up because not all of it is coming from Netherlands and Belgium anymore. The stuff coming out of the easter European states and shipped west is far more crudely made and can be very dangerous.

If its not made correctly the chance of a instant permanent chemical imbalace in your brain is far greater. Ive read a couple of case studies on clubbers in London who took some MDMA and developed various mental disorders like Schizophrenia, bi-polar and personality disorders.

There's good 'shit' and bad 'shit'. ‘Disco biscuits’ get a bad press, largely because of misuse and the 'bad shit' you talk of.

I could list many, many examples of 'friend's and acquaintances who have all taken E every weekend, over a relatively significant period of time (years), and held, and still hold very good jobs and have suffered no obvious long-term side effects.

A cop mate of mine back in the UK loved being posted to the 'dance' quarter where I used to live. To the area in my home city mostly frequented by people off their faces on E, loving themselves, and others, in ‘dance (house, garage etc) club’. In all the years he worked that area he never encountered a single instance of a mindless violence from the clubbers, other than from the occasional, usually lost, pissed twat.

Moderation.

Except for P. Nasty evil shit. The kinda shit that gives drugs a bad name. It’s in the same class as heroin and anything amphetamine and/or cocaine based. The evil addictive, seriously mind altering shit that can so easily ruin your life. And seriously effect the lives of others.

Any drug that you need so bad that you have to hurt others to get your next fix – is fucked up.

**Blondini** · 22nd November 2006, 20:28

Just change it to D for Destroyer.It turns"normal" people into someone that you no longer know the same,This is also called brain damage and affects everyone differently,some people have a greater tolerance others do not ,either way,this is beyond control.Not enough revenue to cover the problem.Really sad to see someone you care about,throw their life away,and unless they recognize the problem,theres not much you can do.If you confront them,you become the enemy,not the drug.Tough topic be wary of our children ...like I say You may as well call it D

**Hillbilly** · 23rd November 2006, 01:49

I used to be addicted to Crystal Meth, aka Methydrine, which is a more potent form of "speed". "P" gets it's name from the ignorant fucks what cant' say "Psuedoephidrine". "P" is homebaked shit from cold tablets.

Now, crystal meth is a different ballgame. That's a lab made synthetic CNS stimulant. First, I was into coke, but couldn't afford it. So a "friend" shot me up with cyrstal meth. That's right, needles! I never realised I was addicted until one day another friend gane me half a gram. It was a Tuesday night, nothing on except work the next day, and I did the whole half-gram in 4 lines, one after another. Im spent the next 3 days wide awake. Because of the lack of sleep, you become violent and psychotic.

A point of interest is that there isn't the "high" that you get from coke, just the speed. Many live for theb "rush" of adrenaline, especially if you shoot up.
The way to spot the differenec visually is meth has octaganal crystals, whil;e coke has sharp 3-5 sided irregular crystals. it's also a local anestetic, which is why the tip of your tonge goes numb. Coke derivatives include Novacaine, which is what dentisits use. Poelonged snorting rips the sinus cavaties apart.

OK, how did I stop? Cold turkey. Train Spotting brings back a lotta bad memories. BTW, I was advised by the people originally importing
"E" not to touch the shit. It literally "burns out" the neurons around the pituatary gland. Of course, a major component is Crystal Meth. Oh, and modern "acid" is nothing more than Strichnine (rat poison) and heroine.

I'm alive to tell this, and I live a very healthy lifestyle now...

**ManDownUnder** · 23rd November 2006, 05:19

Originally Posted by Hillbilly

I used to be addicted to Crystal Meth, aka Methydrine, which is a more potent form of "speed".

...

I'm alive to tell this, and I live a very healthy lifestyle now...

Now THAT'S a qualified opinion. And that's a man that gets my respect. Not for where you've been... but how far you came back.