Do they do their research and get the stories off KB'r ?Originally Posted by janno
Forum whore
Do they do their research and get the stories off KB'r ?
Forum whore
And, in breaking news (edited version here)
A man died after being thrown from his car in a head-on collision with a truck south of Te Awamutu today.
... the man's death was the first fatality in five serious crashes in Waikato since Friday. Three of the crashes involved trucks.
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Today's crash takes the region's road toll to 42 compared to 53 for the same time last year and has left road policing staff searching for answers on how to stop the carnage.Waikato road policing manager Inspector Leo Tooman said the fine, warm weather didn't help drivers, contributing to driver fatigue.
"It only takes a micro-sleep for people to find themselves facing disaster and as the case in three crashes in recent days you have a vehicle weighing say 1.2 tonnes versus a vehicle weighing 44 tonnes.
"It's pretty easy to work out who will come off worst in that situation and we're very fortunate more lives haven't been lost in similar crashes."
More than 30 per cent of road deaths in Waikato have involved a truck or heavy commercial vehicle, although often the larger vehicle was not at fault.
Mr Tooman seems confused. Perhaps he actually meant to blame born again pissed truckies for his rising road toll ?
stormrider
I'd say Mr Tooman has made a few valid points, well done that man for pointing out that DRIVERS were on the WRONG SIDE...... Probably tourists that have mistakenly driven on the right as they do @ 'home'.These are usually in WHITE CAMPER VANS & should be avoided as Mr Tooman points out.
Most of the bike riders I have seen on the coro loop are younger guys on sports bikes. While there are a few older riders they are usually outnumbered
bikes and babes are best naked
I found I had a fluffy seam when my crotch got wet.
World's fastest Cook Islander
Was this guy having a dig???
Or are we looking at the comments too defensively.....
"Large number of born again motorcyclists" = Booming motorcyclist numbers on the roads in recent times.
"Technology has moved on abit" = Increased average motorcyclist speeds as bikes are easier to ride nowdays.
Would you say - Fair comments?
stormrider
I'd say fair comments, some are a getting their feathers ruffled is all
I found I had a fluffy seam when my crotch got wet.
ArseBiscuit
Yeah me too. Normally in the form of JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! that was close....
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There is another pertinent point.
The stated policy of the NZ Police is to oppose all forms of practical driver training. So, accepting , just for the sake of argument, that bornagain motorcyclists are crashing because they have been overtaken by new technology, how are they to upskill to cope with this whizzo new technology?
BRONZ will be asking Mr Tooman if he , and the Waikato Road Policing Unit, are prepared to fund, or otherwise support, a rider training program to bring the bornagains up to speed with the new technology . I'm sure that RRRS can devise such a program.
It will be interesting to see his response. Pigs may fly, but I won't be holding my breath waiting for Mr Tooman to start flapping.
Forum whore
my old Z1R would go as fast a i wanted in 1979, a slow ride was 160 ks it had crap brakes and wallowed in the corners, i would say modern bikes are safer
Hardcore Biker
I fail to see how this new fangled technology is causing born again riders to crash & burn. What technlogy? Overhead camshafts?! Disc Brakes?! C'mon now!
It's simple math isn't it? More bikes on the road = more bikes hitting things.
As long as the national vehicle fleet continues to grow, even with a slight % drop here & there, ultimate numbers are going to rise...
I think people drink a little less now days than they did 20-30 years ago.
It's nice to hear Mr Tooman not blaming speed for the carnage...
edit: grammar.
Cyborg Biker
MY old XJ use to wallow in the corners toomy old Z1R would go as fast a i wanted in 1979, a slow ride was 160 ks it had crap brakes and wallowed in the corners, i would say modern bikes are saferI didn't use to like going over 90 kph in the wet, but now happy at 100 kph (or faster but will niether confirm nor deiny)
Technology in general has made biking in general safer, better brakes, tyres, suspension, bikes handle better and are more forgiving than they use to be, Helmets are better, the the riding and safety gear in general is better... roads are generall better, the tighter corners are removed, and widened, roading compound is better.
It hasn't really made bikes any faster as a general rule of thumb, maybe quicker off the mark. I use to have a 1985 CB900 and that could probably do the same speed as my 2002 VTR.
what isn't better, is well now the number of road users, more cars, trucks, and motorcycles camper vans and buses but there isn't alot that can be done there, except more driver education and better roads. There is more tourest, international students, which are not use to NZ driving conditions, roads, and some of our quirky driving laws that come in using an international licenses. The media make hearing about these tragidies worse and instant, just to get the story, sometimes they don't get it right.
C'mon lets ride....
Roads are generally better too, corners removed, wider, etc. No wonder the coro loop is popular with jaffa riders.my old Z1R would go as fast a i wanted in 1979, a slow ride was 160 ks it had crap brakes and wallowed in the corners, i would say modern bikes are safer
Forum whore
If it's a hack it/he/she won't be anti-anything, just turning in copy. The whole us against the world thing that motorcyclists insist on maintaining needs to be crumpled up and deep-sixed in file 13.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
ArseBiscuit
I await his reply. even if it is support in the direction of policy makers...... I personally think training is a good thing. especially done at the early stages of riding, but a foot in the door is worth six in the mouth.
Hardcore Biker
Please extrapolate............what relation are you to Tooman again?
Caution is not a substitute for skill:no
Scotsman on a German
Innit ironic how the 2 most demonised groups of bikers are:
A/ Young squids on old bikes that don't handle well enough.
B/ Old farts who can't handle ultra modern sportsbikes well enough.
Maybe the squids and the oldies should swap bikes.
I'm so glad I'm in the middle with a bike that's neither new nor old.
note to the broken brained before I get red rep - I don't actually subscribe to what I've written here - irony does not actually mean "like iron"
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