Excluding based on sex...

[cowboyz]

as requested by madduck to take this to another thread. here be it.

More and more often I see woman organising "woman only events" to the determent of men.

started because in another thread madduck suggested there was a secret organisation for womans trackdays. I think it is unfair and stupid to exclude one or the other on the excuse that woman would feel more comfortable without men around.

example. Lets say you setup a woman only trackday so the woman can run round the track without feeling threatened by males on the track.
Then Flame shows up? Is she excluded because she may be quicker than someone else? Why would it be ok for her to be on the track passing other girls and not a guy?
What about girls only rides? I stayed out of it when it was suggested before because again, I think it is just plain dumb. Is the incinuation (sp?) that girls are not as good as guys so they dont want guys around to threaten them or that girls are better than guys so dont want guys around to hold you up?
Side point, as I am in the golfing industry you see it all the time. The week is pretty structured like this.
Mon - open day. Anyone can play.
Tues - vets. over 50 have first choice of tee times. Except woman get 2 hours reserved where only woman can tee off. Woman can also tee off any other time.
Wed Ladies day. Woman have tees reserved for 4 hours. No men are allowed to tee off during this time.
Thurs - club day. anyone can play but woman have reserved tees for 2 hours. Woman can tee off anytime but men have to tee off outside of the reserved times
Fri open day. anyone can play.
Sat - club day. Strictly one tee start (means you HAVE to tee off tee 1 and play the course 1 through 18) except if you are a woman and then you can tee off 4 or 10 to get ahead of the field if you wish.
Sun open day. Anyone can tee off at any time.


Equality? Why are woman wanting to bring themselves down to be equal to men?

[Kendog]

Remember this?

It's a topic that comes up often. Girls like to ride with other girls with out guys.
Big deal!

[Ocean1]

Leave it dude, why shouldn't they. Don't you organise rides with people who you've got things in common with? And maybe they get pissed off with the occasional riding agro from us eh?

I am still pissed, however, that Contours Gym keeps rejecting my applications...

[JimO]

are you even allowed to have a men only gym

[98tls]

Personally i find riding with women distracting,instead of enjoying the ride i would rather tuck in behind and

[Trudes]

Fucked if I know Cowboyz. I don't mind doing things with the guys, fine by me, but seeing something in the biking world that advertises "ladies ride/day/etc etc", makes me automatically think "sweet, there won't be a huge testosterone filled crowd, people smelling of perfume instead of fart".

As for the chicks rides, I continued to organise these at request by other chicks, and enjoy them myself as something different. I believe the gals are likely to get out and ride on these mainly because we often don't meet many other chicks riding during the weekends. I would say on an average Saturday or Sunday ride around the 'Rapa, I would see maybe one or two other chicks at the "bike gathering areas" that actually ride their own bikes, to maybe thirty odd guys, so it's a novelty, and I think this is the reason why chicks enjoy the odd chick ride, it's not exactly meant to exclude the guys, as many turn up anyway, but more to encourage the girls to gather and ride and gossip, it's a novelty.

[gijoe1313]

This thread is useless without pics

[Livvy]

It's like girls will go to the toilet together but men never will. It's a fact of life. Personally, as a chick, I don't give a damn, and I prefer to take a piss without someone standing outside the cubicle door too.

I mostly hang out with guys, so when I get up and riding, I'll be doing it mostly with guys.

[hazard02]

are you even allowed to have a men only gym

I imagine you could, there's already bars like this if you know what I mean.

[FJRider]

Being a "free" country, men AND women can ride with whoever they like, whenever they like. "LADIES" day at golf is different to "LADIES" day at Manfield... isn't it ??? Dont ya just love watching women doing things with other women ???

[Mom]

It's like girls will go to the toilet together but men never will. It's a fact of life. Personally, as a chick, I don't give a damn, and I prefer to take a piss without someone standing outside the cubicle door too.

I mostly hang out with guys, so when I get up and riding, I'll be doing it mostly with guys.

I have never understood why females want to talk while taking a piss or dump. Personally, I am a do the biz and get out of there kind of gal! (I always wash my hands though!)

There are times I prefer male company, work being one of those times, God save me from women sometimes!

There are times I prefer female company, I am not a girly girl (sorry GG ) but I love my female friends.

Going for a ride out, dont care! If you dont like the speed I ride at, piss off and ride somewhere else! I guess I can see how some chicks whould be inhibited by the testosterone, my advice, ignore it, and discover it is not as bad as you think it is.

[Trudes]

I mostly hang out with guys, so when I get up and riding, I'll be doing it mostly with guys.

Believe me, you probably won't get much choice in the matter.
Luckily here in Welly there are quite a few gals that ride, some of them VERY well, so it's nice to have a bit of a change from the guys and their constant dick measuring... I mean chicken strip comparisons.

[Coyote]

Equality? Why are woman wanting to bring themselves down to be equal to men?

True feminists (the guy hating types) don't want to be equal, they want to be equal when it suits them. Equal pay, yes. Equal child custody, no.

Let them have their own rides, that's no problem. But it's a bit shitty they can have a whole venue, such as a racetrack, reserved for themselves and leaving us out of it, especially if it can be one of the few chances some guys can get to the track. Maybe a race for just girls on the trackday possibly.

Can't say I'm too keen on 'men only' whatever in retaliation.

[98tls]

It's like girls will go to the toilet together but men never will.

To be honest ive never wanted to go to the toilet with another bloke.Why would i want to?

[MadDuck]

More and more often I see woman organising "woman only events" to the determent of men.

Its OK there is NO secret womens club. I am sure Scummy will allay your fears.

I just didnt want the thread going off on a tangent and digressing from what was being said. Mr Cowboyz....question for you....have you ever been on a track where you said OK I am going in the slow group. Then Skidmark turns up..... I HAVE!. And dammit I dont want to be on a track with over testerone boys thinking they own the world ......