well im going to apply to a post from a couple of pages ago, think it needs to be said. Shrub is the only one who was there, so we can't condemn or condone his actions, or lack of them, well not too harshly anyway.
In every near miss the most important question is not who was to blame, it is what could i have done to avoid that? sometimes the answer may be nothing other than stay home in bed (not an option obviously) but to ask is to learn.
Also, I was once passed by two cages at the same time, when I was in my cage, 3 cars wide going at 100, 110, and bout 130 made for an interesting maneuverer.
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"travelling at excessive speed and placing other road users at increased risk" is very subjective. For one thing you do it every time you ride. Who's to say what is "excessive"? The definition depends on who you are, where you are and when you are. The first speeding ticket ever issued was for doing 4 times the speed limit. Sound's excessive to me! The trouble is that the speed limit at the time was 2mph. Doesn't sound so excessive now, does it?
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Well, from what I gathered from reading his posts he was saying that the gixxer was in the same lane as him coming up past other bikes and then moved out across the centre line and passed him as he was moving out across the centre line to pass the car. If Shrub was indicating then pulled out and and the gixxer was not indicating and just pulled out to shoot past the indicating bike in front of him then I would suggest the gixxer was at fault. But this is supposition based on what I gathered from what Shrub said - without being there as an independent witness to the whole manoeuvre it is hard to be sure who was where when Shrub pulled out.
Having read the last four pages I noticed that Shrub did say he did a quick over shoulder check and he also mentioned checking his blindspot (as a former truckie). The point he was making about checking helmets was that he was at the front leading a group ride. So the rider of the gixxer approaching with excessive speed may or may not have been one of a number of helmets.
I think he was making a perfectly valid point which was exactly as I observed back in post #29....
Please explain why you red repped me for that post sixpackjack(off) (post#29 that is) - Was that just hardcore Gixxer loyality or were you the grade A pillock in question?
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