Red light experience - venting

[swbarnett]

or next time the situation arises put all ancours on and cause a accdent to stop for a amber.

Would've served him right if you had. He would've been guilty of following too closely if he'd hit you. (I wouldn't advise this on a bike though)

[Divot]

Trucks should be baned from using the right hand land where there are more than two lanes. I have work on the motorway in auckland and the number of trucks that sit in the right hand lane at 80k is quite high.

Worst is when you are red lighting to a job and there are three trucks side by side taking up all three lanes and not one hearing the sierns or seeing the red and blues flashing.

Thrucks should be required to stay ing the left most lane except when passing.

The other thing is when riding your bike in rush hour, notice how many cages sit on the right hand line of their lane, forcing you to pass on the left, ops, you get pinged for passing in the left, or when you weave across the lanes marker to avoid cages you then get pinged for not indicating lane change.

[ManDownUnder]

And I'll write the same ticket every time I see that offence, as people who crash red lights hit people sometimes.

Just venting.

Mate - you do your job to the best of your ability and you can sleep easy at night. Or to quote the wise words of a wise woman I know... "What other people think of you is none of your business"

If it takes 10 tickets to get the message through the thick head of a red light runner/boy racer or someone riding on the ATNR then 10 tickets it is. If you're doing nothing wrong in the execution of your duties then the only problem is in THEIR head.

[swbarnett]

Thrucks should be required to stay ing the left most lane except when passing.

Not just trucks but this should be a requirement for ALL vehicles.

In Switzerland (and other parts of Europe) they have this requirement and it really makes a difference. On the German Autobahn the right lane (left to us) is for anyone that just wants to cruise (at 120k or so) and left lane really is the fast lane.

[Ixion]

Worst is when you are red lighting to a job and there are three trucks side by side taking up all three lanes and not one hearing the sierns or seeing the red and blues flashing.

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This is a ruddy pain. It is because truck A has a governor set to 91kph, and is determined he can prove that he can pass truck B whose governor is set at 90kph. Who in turn is absolutely not going to follow truck C who, unhappy chap, has a governor that won't let him exceed 89kph (probably because his tyres have worn a bit)

[FJRider]

Not just trucks but this should be a requirement for ALL vehicles.

It already is... as is most other laws that some find "inconvenient", they are often ignored...
Failing to keep left is "ticketable"

[raftn]

Good post Rastus, take a bow.

I am with you on that! I have been pulled over a couple of times, and always been treated fairly, , carn't ask for much more than that.

[Patrick]

Mate - you do your job to the best of your ability and you can sleep easy at night. Or to quote the wise words of a wise woman I know... "What other people think of you is none of your business"

If it takes 10 tickets to get the message through the thick head of a red light runner/boy racer or someone riding on the ATNR then 10 tickets it is. If you're doing nothing wrong in the execution of your duties then the only problem is in THEIR head.

So where do speeding tickets for those regular collectors on KB come into it????

[ManDownUnder]

So where do speeding tickets for those regular collectors on KB come into it????

Simple - it comes down to accountability.

If they're playing by the rules then that's all fine with me. I've heard they use some dangerous tactics - but I stress that's only heresay. If they do some of the dumb shit claimed then hold them accountable.

If I speed and am held accountable... how can I complain?

If anyone (including the cops) do anythig illegal and are held accountable... same thing. I have NOOOOOOO problems with that at all. If it hurts my back pocket then maybe I should be obeying the law.

No?

[Kickaha]

It already is... as is most other laws that some find "inconvenient", they are often ignored...
Failing to keep left is "ticketable"

I don't think that is correct, at least not when there are two lanes in the same direction

[Patrick]

If anyone (including the cops) do anythig illegal and are held accountable... same thing. I have NOOOOOOO problems with that at all. If it hurts my back pocket then maybe I should be obeying the law.

No?

Having seen complaints against cops come through the station and the way they are handled, they are most definitely held accountable.... Times have changed.... some time ago....

[newby]

It already is... as is most other laws that some find "inconvenient", they are often ignored...
Failing to keep left is "ticketable"

Not on a motorway it isnt, although you probably dont have a motorway down there....

And as long as you are within a lane, it isnt, no matter where you are. "failing to keep left" is only of there are no lines, or you cross the centre line which creates danger.

[Ixion]

Not on a motorway it isnt, although you probably dont have a motorway down there....

And as long as you are within a lane, it isnt, no matter where you are. "failing to keep left" is only of there are no lines, or you cross the centre line which creates danger.

Sigh. Sorry, wrong. I've lost count of how often I've posted this

Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427) (as at 01 August 2008)


S2.1 Keeping left

(1) A driver, when driving, must at all times drive as near as practicable to the left side of the roadway unless this rule otherwise provides.

(2) If a driver's speed, when driving, is such as to impede the normal and reasonable flow of traffic, that driver must, as soon as is reasonably practicable, move the vehicle as far as practicable to the left side of the roadway when this is necessary to allow following traffic to pass.

(3) A driver may drive in the right lane in the direction of travel when driving on a multi-lane road if—
(a) the driver is turning right, or making a U-turn from the centre of the road, and is giving the prescribed signal of that driver's intention to turn right; or
(b) the driver is passing; or
(c) the left lane is unavailable to the driver; or
(d) the driver is required by any provision of this rule to drive in the right lane; or
(e) a variable lane control downward-facing arrow sign indicates that the driver must drive in the right lane; or
(f) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or
(g) the traffic in all other lanes is congested; or
(h) the traffic in every lane is congested.

What this says, is you must keep to the left most lane unless

you are turning right
or you are overtaking
or there is no room in the left lane

(and some other oddball cases)

Yes I know it is universally ignored by everybody, including the cops. But it is still the law

[FJRider]

If lanes are marked, and a vehicle is in the right lane. If you wish to pass, you may pass it in the left lane. If another vehicle is there also, both travelling at less than posted speed limit, they are impeding traffic flow. That is a traffic offence. If they are travelling AT the speed limit, and YOU wish to pass...You expect the ticket...

[swbarnett]

If it hurts my back pocket then maybe I should be obeying the law.

No?

This assumes that the law is fair and reasonable.

Whether it is or not is a personal judgement. If enough people object to a law and practice civil disobedience then there just might be a chance of the law being changed to something that is more reasonable. Unfortunately this seldom works when those directly affected by an unreasonable law are in a decided minority.