MotoGP 2014 [Archive] - Page 10

speights_bud

20th August 2014, 12:13

You dont know what he was doing,we already know he pushes the front like no one else on the way in to the apex,i think he WAS seeing what would happen if he pushed it more,it was a slow corner
Yep, Kinda exactly what I was getting at. Also if we remember back to the Yamaha release that explained how the on board computers work. They are constantly learning and making predictions about next lap on the fly. Analysis of data about lean angles, suspension and wheel speed etc when he does crash like this are going to be crucial to find out where the line is and how to behave when it's crossed. If Honda has that data and can forward engineer with it then perhaps increasing another 1deg of lean angle available to use under braking could be the edge required to win.

Just because crashing is a bad thing during a race it doesn't mean we can't learn from it in a test.

HenryDorsetCase

20th August 2014, 13:09

Just because crashing is a bad thing during a race it doesn't mean we can't learn from it in a test.

provided your very expensive and World Championship leading crash test dummy doesn't hurt himself and thereby make the process moot.

Tazz

20th August 2014, 13:35

provided your very expensive and World Championship leading crash test dummy doesn't hurt himself and thereby make the process moot.

Fair point, but he also wouldn't be leading if he wasn't someone who pushed the limits to see what he can do.

pritch

20th August 2014, 13:58

My favourite motorcycle photo is of Freddie Spencer doing exactly that... pushing the front to scrub speed then using the rear to unweight the front so it grips and steers again and away it goes. Flat track racing background and god-like ability.

I seem to recall reading an interview where Spencer said he practiced riding on wet clay with the front wheel locked. After that the track surface would be easy.

Reckless

20th August 2014, 14:50

I seem to recall reading an interview where Spencer said he practiced riding on wet clay with the front wheel locked. After that the track surface would be easy.

That is supposed to be a regular skill to practice on a dirt bike its on a few of the training vids eg Dirt Wise By Shane Watts
Bearing in Mind MM and VR do quite a bit of flat tracking :)

Crasherfromwayback

20th August 2014, 15:32

Mind MM and VR do quite a bit of flat tracking :)

Don't think VR would be in MM's league when it comes to dirt track.

pritch

20th August 2014, 15:48

That is supposed to be a regular skill to practice on a dirt bike its on a few of the training vids eg Dirt Wise By Shane Watts
Bearing in Mind MM and VR do quite a bit of flat tracking :)

Yeah but flat track and moto X are still not quite as dramatic as wet clay which is about the slipperiest natural surface I can imagine.

Pete, I was a bit disappointed Rossi didn't ride in that Spanish event Marquez organised. Rossi has his own flat track and invites all sorts to ride there so he should be handy. I don't think he'd have finished last.

Just had my exercise for the day - 10m walk to the letter box. There was a big brown parcel, my Baylis book has arrived. It's a large format paperback and it's very ummmm RED. Lots of big photographs, all in colour and almost without exception Ducati. There are some other brands in race scenes but the only picture I've seen featuring a bike other than a Duc is a shot of Mick Doohan on his Honda. Even the road bike shots used to illustrate road bike related text are Ducati.

Too busy today but I hope to get to it soon.

Crasherfromwayback

20th August 2014, 16:48

Pete, I was a bit disappointed Rossi didn't ride in that Spanish event Marquez organised. Rossi has his own flat track and invites all sorts to ride there so he should be handy. I don't think he'd have finished last.

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Yeah I've seen Rossi in action at his ranch. For sure her goes well...but MM was footing it with the best in the business, which is...fucked up!

Vinz0r

21st August 2014, 10:48

Don't think VR would be in MM's league when it comes to dirt track.

Is that because MM rides a Honda? :cool::lol:

ellipsis

21st August 2014, 10:57

...this isn't MM practicing more dismounts?...

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Reckless

21st August 2014, 11:30

...this isn't MM practicing more dismounts?...

Thats gone Viral been everywhere! Bloody lucky aye! Front flip onto the roof of the car you hit :cool:
Riding like a jackass not :cool:

roogazza

21st August 2014, 12:51

Thats gone Viral been everywhere! Bloody lucky aye! Front flip onto the roof of the car you hit :cool:
Riding like a jackass not :cool:
I was going to put that one up.
Saw it on another site,apparently recorded on a Russian dash cam.
A fine dismount ,I give him a 10 for difficulty.:crazy:

jasonu

21st August 2014, 13:57

I was going to put that one up.
Saw it on another site,apparently recorded on a Russian dash cam.
A fine dismount ,I give him a 10 for difficulty.:crazy:

And 250 points for being a tinny cunt. I would personally send him $20 American dollars if he could do it again...

Drew

21st August 2014, 19:43

And 250 points for being a tinny cunt. I would personally send him $20 American dollars if he could do it again...

I'm not convinced he did it a first time. That car was already traveling a lot slower than the bike. After the impact, they'd be on the brakes pretty fucken hard. He'd have slid straight off the front and landed on the road.

DidJit

22nd August 2014, 09:52

Word in the Twitterverse (https://twitter.com/MCNSport/status/502461774030209025) is that Jeremy McWilliams has a Moto2 wildcard for Silverstone (http://www.bikesportnews.com/news-detail.cfm?newstitle=McWilliams-to-make-MotoGP-comeback-at-Silverstone&newsid=12766). Not bad for 50 years young...

Time to dust off the leathers, chaps?

Crasherfromwayback

22nd August 2014, 11:38

carbonhed

22nd August 2014, 15:06

Hope this isn't a repost.

Marquez saves and wobbles (http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2014/Marquezs+Saves+Wobbles+so+far+in+2014)

Reckless

22nd August 2014, 15:35

Hope this isn't a repost.

Marquez saves and wobbles (http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2014/Marquezs+Saves+Wobbles+so+far+in+2014)

That took me through my MotoGP site auto log on those who aren't registered may not be able to view it?

I haven't been posting those for that reason. God vid tho hadn't seen that one cheers :)

ecko_nzed

22nd August 2014, 16:25

Time to dust off the leather chaps?

Misread what you said and thought I'd stumbled into wrong forum

DidJit

23rd August 2014, 09:43

Haha :D Good ol’ punctuational word play...

Asher

23rd August 2014, 12:12

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Brian d marge

24th August 2014, 21:05

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racing

Excellent commentary

Style

great bikes

Just a reminder :innocent:

Stephen

roogazza

25th August 2014, 08:44

racing
Excellent commentary
Style
great bikes
Just a reminder :innocent:
Stephen

So neat and tidy,super smooth and super fast, Legend.
Didn't he make it all look so simple ? Thanks for that.

Drew

25th August 2014, 10:13

So neat and tidy,super smooth and super fast, Legend.
Didn't he make it all look so simple ? Thanks for that.

I shudder to think how much he would beat me by, even if I was riding something with modern geometry.

I have wondered how they rode without moving their weight over the front wheel. Watch Hailwood and he is bolt upright through turns. All I can come up with, is lightning fast relexes. The front is moving on those old shitters, make no mistake. But they adjust and gather it so fast it doesn't get out of hand. Todays riders have more time I think, by having so much load on the front tyre, and the bike set up to move their whole body when things get to the edge.

roogazza

25th August 2014, 11:20

I shudder to think how much he would beat me by, even if I was riding something with modern geometry.

I have wondered how they rode without moving their weight over the front wheel. Watch Hailwood and he is bolt upright through turns. All I can come up with, is lightning fast relexes. The front is moving on those old shitters, make no mistake. But they adjust and gather it so fast it doesn't get out of hand. Todays riders have more time I think, by having so much load on the front tyre, and the bike set up to move their whole body when things get to the edge.
Yeah Drew, he used to wear the shit out of boots and just sit like a sack of spuds.
I will always treasure the night yakking over a few/many beers at a Marlboro booze up with him.

The front was never a problem with big front wheels maybe thats it ? Well, to us normal humans anyway.

Crasherfromwayback

25th August 2014, 11:32

The front was never a problem with big front wheels maybe thats it ? Well, to us normal humans anyway.

When Kawasaki first went to an 18" front on the Z1R from the 19" of the Z1000 it felt weird. The MKII Z1R went back to the 19" and felt better. They got it right a couple of models later but.

Drew

25th August 2014, 11:56

Big front wheel is stable, but does it offer more traction? I suppose the bigger rolling radius means the rubber touching the ground is in contact for longer, so perhaps it does.

I used to punt the old Titan along fairly well, and now that I think of it I don't remember the front washing at all. Used to pick up both when ya decked it out hard enough though, just to keep you on yer toes.

Crasherfromwayback

25th August 2014, 12:22

Drew

25th August 2014, 12:50

I always used a 19" on the front of my KX500's road racing 'em. Felt nicer to me than a 17Loads of trail on dirt bikes, I wonder if it wasn't just a case of too much feed back? Not sure I'm making that clear. Sort of, feeling every single thing the front wheel is doing and being conscious of it.

pritch

25th August 2014, 13:03

Last I saw in BIKE Phil Read was still doing the occasional race meeting. His diary still mentions events but whether it's for racing or just appearance as a personality I don't know.

Crasherfromwayback

25th August 2014, 13:05

Loads of trail on dirt bikes, I wonder if it wasn't just a case of too much feed back? Not sure I'm making that clear. Sort of, feeling every single thing the front wheel is doing and being conscious of it.

Was more so they just felt a lil nervous compared to the 19. Mind you...I did nothing to 'em other than front wheel, brakes and gearing. Never fucked about with anything else.

Brian d marge

25th August 2014, 13:35

The contact patch is slightly bigger on todays tyres give or take and the bigger the dia of the tyre means that patch hits the road less times that a smaller dia tyre

Also the bigger the dia the harder it is to change direction , OR be delfected ...esp with stiff suspension

Ive ridden them old Dukes and they are crap in the twisties , they prefer long sweepers ,

Would love to have got the telemetry on mikes bike..or any of them to be honest

Finally wasnt kowan , a kiwi ???

Stephen

merv

25th August 2014, 18:10

Good story about Mike and the Ducati here http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/mike-hailwood-ducati-isle-of-man-tt-steve-wynne.aspx?PageId=1#axzz3BNcgLKQc

Steve Wynne has that KBer MD look about him doesn't he or is it just the hairdo?

Finally wasnt kowan , a kiwi ???

Stephen

Going by this http://www.guskuhn.net/GKMLtd/Racing/JohnCowie.htm and this http://www.iomtt.com/TT-Database/competitors.aspx?ride_id=3181 he was John Cowie and was a Scotsman who later emigrated to Australia when he retired.

Brian d marge

25th August 2014, 22:19

Never met steve but was trained buy brancato and hadengines built by rutter

roogazza

29th August 2014, 08:20

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/208100/1/valentino-rossi-speed-trumps-psychology.html

pritch

29th August 2014, 13:11

Psychology part 2?

Marquez on "that" save. "When I was on the floor I open the gas, close my eyes
and when I stay on I say thank you very much."

Tazz

29th August 2014, 13:45

Psychology part 2?

Marquez on "that" save. "When I was on the floor I open the gas, close my eyes
and when I stay on I say thank you very much."

:lol: I like that analysis way better than any of the 'in depth' ones around the net!

Reckless

29th August 2014, 14:58

Psychology part 2?

Marquez on "that" save. "When I was on the floor I open the gas, close my eyes
and when I stay on I say thank you very much."

So your bar end is grinding along the ground, your shoulder and arse as well, the steerings gone limp because the fronts off the ground, your at 68 degrees....:weep:

And you decide to twist the throttle ??

I've ridden enough dirt to know never ever give up but Fuck me thats another league :2thumbsup

Drew

29th August 2014, 18:05

Psychology part 2?

Marquez on "that" save. "When I was on the floor I open the gas, close my eyes
and when I stay on I say thank you very much."

He is gifted beyond my comprehension, so as sceptical as I am I will grudgingly believe it.

Crasherfromwayback

29th August 2014, 18:45

Psychology part 2?

Marquez on "that" save. "When I was on the floor I open the gas, close my eyes
and when I stay on I say thank you very much."

Sounds fair to me!

Shaun Harris

30th August 2014, 18:21

Motomatters has an exellent story about how all teams work in terms of money support etc from Dorna. When I managed a 250GP team in 1993 I think it was, we got $10-000 US $ for 2 250 bikes to do 1 lap of the race each round and FREE freight for all the fly away rounds as a total privateer team.

Shaun Harris

31st August 2014, 23:35

Man I hope Suzuki has signed Vinales, he is very very talented

pritch

1st September 2014, 15:12

roogazza

1st September 2014, 15:52

Well, there was some interesting action there. "Rubbing is racing" being the operative phrase of the day.

I don't speak Italian, but I wish Nick Harris would have another look at how Bastianini is spelt. He says it wrong every time even though his co-commentator is saying it how it is spelt. That might seem picky, but it's an indication of a commentator's professionalism - or the lack thereof.

/whinge
Yes pritch,yes yes, I find them irritating,whatever that twang they have is ?
WSB have one too,Green I think his name is?
I forgave Harris because it was his home GP but I always have the mute button ready.
"oh its 2013 all over again,MM and JL going at it" ! THEN.....
and Bradleys come in for a tyre change !!!!!

Shaun Harris

1st September 2014, 16:10

Yes pritch,yes yes, I find them irritating,whatever that twang they have is ?
WSB have one too,Green I think his name is?
I forgave Harris because it was his home GP but I always have the mute button ready.
"oh its 2013 all over again,MM and JL going at it" ! THEN.....
and Bradleys come in for a tyre change !!!!!

It is reported that B Smith had a cracked Rim on the rear of his bike causing the drama;s for him. His lap times when he got going with wheel with correct pressure prooved he was capable if no drama in the first place. MM is deffinately a bloody hero and a star, but it is also obvious the Honda is just that little bit better on the brakes and lines that they can can use, much more flexable than the Yamaha allowing him to be the man he is.

GD66

1st September 2014, 19:17

roogazza

1st September 2014, 19:30

GD66

1st September 2014, 20:06

Yeah mate, if Dovi can ever persuade a set of tyres to work well for race distance he is a huge chance of a podium before too long. Seem to recall him making Crutchrot look a bit of a goat at Tech 3 as well, actually...

steveyb

1st September 2014, 20:12

steveyb

1st September 2014, 20:16

Well, there was some interesting action there. "Rubbing is racing" being the operative phrase of the day.

I don't speak Italian, but I wish Nick Harris would have another look at how Bastianini is spelt. He says it wrong every time even though his co-commentator is saying it how it is spelt. That might seem picky, but it's an indication of a commentator's professionalism - or the lack thereof.

/whinge

I can't agree with you more. Harris pisses me off when he gets the riders names wrong.
It is BAS TI A NINI not BAS TAI NINI or BAS TAI ANI or whatever he says.
And it is AAN DREA not ON DREA.
Who else have I forgotten???
SMI, SMY, oh, I can't even get that one, Smith or whatever it is.....

Shaun Harris

1st September 2014, 21:34

Markez junior to moto2 with Mark Vds team for 2 years

speights_bud

1st September 2014, 22:58

It is reported that B Smith had a cracked Rim on the rear of his bike causing the drama;s for him.

Prolly some truth in that: Smith V Pol
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pritch

2nd September 2014, 08:23

WSB have one too,Green I think his name is?

Jonathon Green's commentary doesn't even make sense sometimes, if it wasn't for his comments man (Steve Martin?) the commentary would be incomprehensible.
And I did send a message to Martin thanking him for his efforts, "providing light where there would otherwise be darkness".

I guess the commentator is there to generate excitement, and the Whithams and Martins etc are there to provide understanding.

Until the big shakeup this year I think it was the BBC used an Australian (Cox?) who sometimes used language that Brits and Americans couldn't understand. One example I recall was a discussion about his comment, "Lorenzo is riding hands and heels."

This was mentioned on the MotoPod podcast, most of his audience were at a complete loss as to what he was on about. Australians and Kiwis of a certain age will understand, and I did advise the guys at MotoPod that it was a term from horse racing implying that the rider was racing but was not using the whip. A motorsport analogy might be, "riding at 8 tenths".

Anyhoo, it does appear that disatisfaction with commentators is an international event in its own right.

Mental Trousers

2nd September 2014, 09:25

Losing the Moody + Ryder + Spalding commentary team was the worst thing to happen to the sport for a long time. They were the consummate professionals. Always tried to get names correct, all 3 of them were extremely knowledgeable of the sport and a lot of the stuff they talked about they actually experienced.

I did actually like Charlie Cox, but that's cos I'm a Kiwi and understand most of what he was saying.

Nick Harris and Jonathan Green both need a really, really hard kick in the nuts.

Crasherfromwayback

2nd September 2014, 11:11

Poor Crutchlow was in trouble on race day when the cool weather overnight caused his ARTHRITIS to flare up ! Mate, on behalf of historic roadracers and vintage motocrossers worldwide, MAN THE FUCK UP !!:tugger:

But...but...he rides like Stoner so will be able to make the Ducati work! Lol. Sure...

Betcha he suffers from gout, which is a form of arthritis.
But he should know how to deal with it by now.

I suffer badly from gout. It's certainly not pleasant. But unless it's severe, which I'd be surprised if his is if he suffers from it...it's quite easily managed. And it's certainly not temp related.

roogazza

2nd September 2014, 11:19

Jonathon Green's commentary doesn't even make sense sometimes, if it wasn't for his comments man (Steve Martin?) the commentary would be incomprehensible.
And I did send a message to Martin thanking him for his efforts, "providing light where there would otherwise be darkness".

I guess the commentator is there to generate excitement, and the Whithams and Martins etc are there to provide understanding.

Until the big shakeup this year I think it was the BBC used an Australian (Cox?) who sometimes used language that Brits and Americans couldn't understand. One example I recall was a discussion about his comment, "Lorenzo is riding hands and heels."

This was mentioned on the MotoPod podcast, most of his audience were at a complete loss as to what he was on about. Australians and Kiwis of a certain age will understand, and I did advise the guys at MotoPod that it was a term from horse racing implying that the rider was racing but was not using the whip. A motorsport analogy might be, "riding at 8 tenths".

Anyhoo, it does appear that disatisfaction with commentators is an international event in its own right.

In Moto3 Harris had me thinking he was watching a different race, even 6 laps out, I could see Miller wasn't getting near the front.
Harris had a hard on for Miller for sure.
I used to really enjoy the Sheene commentary in the smaller class so I'm not anti pom..

jasonu

2nd September 2014, 11:33

"Lorenzo is riding hands and heels."

I am 46 years old and I haven't heard that one.
Until this year we would get this fat little dick called Greg Creamer (pronounced Kramer as in Seinfield) do a bit of a talk before the race and also every time we came back from commercial before the world feed commentators. He actually ruined it for me with his many mispronunciations of the riders names. The worst was Lorentho (Lorenzo). Fucked if I know why but he persisted with that one for the longest time. His comments were shit too.

Oscar

2nd September 2014, 11:40

I am 46 years old and I haven't heard that one.
Until this year we would get this fat little dick called Greg Creamer (pronounced Kramer as in Seinfield) do a bit of a talk before the race and also every time we came back from commercial before the world feed commentators. He actually ruined it for me with his many mispronunciations of the riders names. The worst was Lorentho (Lorenzo). Fucked if I know why but he persisted with that one for the longest time. His comments were shit too.

You are correct:

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/popular/the-definitive-guide-on-how-to-pronounce-lorenzo/

I lvoe the way that Vale pronouces "Jorge" - Yourgay

jasonu

2nd September 2014, 13:07

You are correct:

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/popular/the-definitive-guide-on-how-to-pronounce-lorenzo/

I lvoe the way that Vale pronouces "Jorge" - Yourgay

Nice one. I forwarded it to the fat little wanker. Doubt I will get a reply.

Erelyes

2nd September 2014, 13:59

I lvoe the way that Vale pronouces "Jorge" - Yourgay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AIgWOirQys&feature=youtu.be&t=1m8s

pritch

2nd September 2014, 14:43

I am 46 years old and I haven't heard that one.

Way back in the dim distant past, like even before there were any TV channels, and only state owned radio, it was apparently deemed absolutely vital that the whole nation receive saturation radio coverage of any and every horse race meeting held. Even those with no interest in horse racing whatsoever could become familiar with the jargon without even trying. In fact it would have been moderately difficult to avoid.

Then we got TV and it was necessary that we got coverage there too, whether we wanted it or not. Happily these days the punters can get their fix without inconveniencing the rest of us.

roogazza

3rd September 2014, 10:48

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Sep/140902sil.htm

GD66

3rd September 2014, 10:59

What a shitfight, typical of those Dorna cunts allocating a title round to a bunch of fuckers with no circuit, no need to ask if any moneys changed hands. Ecclestone allocated the car GP to Donington a few years back while trying to extort more money from the BRDC. Donington promptly closed to make the myriad of mods required for an F1 meeting : chain link fences spectators can't see through, viewing areas moved back away from the track, massive sand traps between the crowd and the track...after the necessary arm twisting, begging and raise of the financial offer, the GP returned to Silverstone without any event ever being run at Donington, and they had to remove many of the alterations to reopen, after losing nearly a year of trade. The facilities aren't flash at Donington, but by and large the track is good for bike racing and the race should be a beaut, but how can an event as successful as the Silverstone GP be allocated to a mob without even a circuit to race at ?
Cash...:oi-grr:

roogazza

3rd September 2014, 12:28

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/09/02/donington_park_to_host_british_motogp_ro.html
We've seen some great racing at Donington over the years, we'll see in a years time.

Autech

3rd September 2014, 14:13

Bender

3rd September 2014, 14:25

What is everyone's take on Marquez's move on Lorenzo? Was pretty harsh to say the least and definitely cost him a shot at the top step. He looked a lot more like the Marquez of last year, clearly well on the limit to beat Lorenzo.

Good, close racing. Lorenzo didn't cry over it and they shook hands on the post-finish lap so that says it all. Harsh but fair...

The best thing about that race was how Lorenzo has pulled himself up after a dismal start to the year and is again in top form. That's not something that is easy to do, and is a measure of the man's character. Just ask Cal "Casey" Crutchless.

steveyb

3rd September 2014, 14:44

Moto2 was by far the best race of the year, Maverick did well to catch up with the front boys, just goes to show how important qualifying is, something Mr Pedrosa needs to learn.

Cal Crutchlow is running out of excuses IMO, he did alright on the Tech 3 Yamaha running neck and neck with Dovi but never quite as good or better. For him to not even cop a mention in the entire race by the commentary team shows how far back he truly was.

Great to see Dovi so close to a dry podium, I think we will definitely see one by the end of the year. Hats off for Ducati for taking the steps to improve the bike, that chap from Aprillia WSBK is clearly earning his keep. Every race the bike improves fractionally the way it should be as a developing machine, it seems Dovi is the driving force behind these improvements.

What is everyone's take on Marquez's move on Lorenzo? Was pretty harsh to say the least and definitely cost him a shot at the top step. He looked a lot more like the Marquez of last year, clearly well on the limit to beat Lorenzo.

Have to agree about the Ducati. It is clearly getting better and better. Both Dovi and Maniac Joe are punting it really well and Hernandez is virtually outdoing Crutchlow also. Crutchlow has one more season. If 2015 is no good then he will be down the road.

Let's hope that it does not take all year to sort out the 2015 Ducati bike.

The rubbing and passing in MotoGP was sweet as. That is what these jokers live for. It is only the PC brigade who think that stuff is out of line.

Autech

3rd September 2014, 15:34

Good, close racing. Lorenzo didn't cry over it and they shook hands on the post-finish lap so that says it all. Harsh but fair...

The best thing about that race was how Lorenzo has pulled himself up after a dismal start to the year and is again in top form. That's not something that is easy to do, and is a measure of the man's character. Just ask Cal "Casey" Crutchless.

Yeah he sure had a shocker start, personally I thought Rossi's return to form had brought his head back a few years back to when he was 2nd rider to Rossi's brilliance. The crash and jump start were not at all what we expected from silky smooth Lorenzo. He certainly has sorted his shit out though and is riding brilliantly.

Have to agree about the Ducati. It is clearly getting better and better. Both Dovi and Maniac Joe are punting it really well and Hernandez is virtually outdoing Crutchlow also. Crutchlow has one more season. If 2015 is no good then he will be down the road.

Let's hope that it does not take all year to sort out the 2015 Ducati bike.

The rubbing and passing in MotoGP was sweet as. That is what these jokers live for. It is only the PC brigade who think that stuff is out of line.

The excitement in Motogp certainly has gone up since the introduction of Marquez. I personally didn't like Marquez in Moto2 with the crossing under brakes, as a brilliant rider I didn't think he needed to be doing silly stuff like that. Last year he had a lot of pressure on his shoulders to win his rookie season and some fierce competition in the forms of Pedrosa and Lorenzo. As a result he did some dumb shit, but it certainly made for damn good entertainment! It all is a little hard to watch as a fierce Dani Pedrosa supporter though, but that's what marks a true fan someone who backs their man no matter how they are doing. Rossi's fan base is as large as it ever was despite all that has happened with him since going to Ducati.

Reckless

3rd September 2014, 16:00

Had to stay away from the net till we finally watched it.

Moto 3 great as ever? I think young Marquez is gunning for the prize there and if our little aussy doesn't start racing to win races instead of "thinking of the championship" he'll loose it for sure.

Best race of the season from Moto 2. Tito aye! goin at it hammer and tongs :)

MotoGP showed either the Yamaha is still just a little down on the Honda or MM is a little up on the others? You choose? The wider corner entry of JL was leaving the door open for MM.
Dova raced well without a tyre advantage, looks like they may have got it up to alien level?? Although I think the track suited it we shall see!

I must say I'm really disappointed at Silverstone not having the GP next year!
I think the track contributed in a major way the event and the racing. Some riders/bikes where obviously faster in different parts of the track. Passing was frequent because of this making all classes enjoyable.

pritch

3rd September 2014, 16:00

Poor Crutchlow was in trouble on race day when the cool weather overnight caused his ARTHRITIS to flare up ! Mate, on behalf of historic roadracers and vintage motocrossers worldwide, MAN THE FUCK UP !!:tugger:

I was listening to the Motopod podcast today and they were discussing Crutchlow's arthritis issue. This is the result of a previous injury and as soon as the season is over it will be operated on to "clean it up". Meantime if it is a problem he has to have injections to enable him to ride.

Funny, but I wouldn't have thought there were too many KBers qualified to tell GP riders to "MAN THE FUCK UP". But hey it's entirely possible I missed your dazzlingly brilliant racing career? :whistle:

merv

3rd September 2014, 17:02

I'm not looking forward to Crutchless going to Honda and then still whinging all year the bike isn't good enough.

Then the look on Nakamoto's face would not be one we'd like to see.

GD66

3rd September 2014, 17:09

Funny, but I wouldn't have thought there were too many KBers qualified to tell GP riders to "MAN THE FUCK UP". But hey it's entirely possible I missed your dazzlingly brilliant racing career? :whistle:

Rode roadracing and vmx until I was 57 years old, and there are plenty of older cahns racing, right up to their eighties. The pits looks like a war movie, with old buggers hobbling and limping, but they gobble a handful of nurofen and go racing without whinging about their arthritis playing up, even though they don't have a works ride, a masseur or the cocktail of good gear available from the Clinica Mobile.

But thanks for the sarcasm. :motu:

Autech

3rd September 2014, 18:19

I'm not looking forward to Crutchless going to Honda and then still whinging all year the bike isn't good enough.

Then the look on Nakamoto's face would not be one we'd like to see.

Hopefully the older chaps on here might be able to tell me what's what, but has anyone ever made the successful switch from being a WSBK champion to being competitive in Motogp? All I have to go off are the recent examples I remember of Ben Spies and Crutchlow, both whom entered the championship with high expectations but have not delivered.

I know the likes of Biaggi and Melandri went the other way from GP racing to WSBK.

suzuki21

3rd September 2014, 18:32

Have to agree about the Ducati. It is clearly getting better and better. Both Dovi and Maniac Joe are punting it really well and Hernandez is virtually outdoing Crutchlow also. Crutchlow has one more season. If 2015 is no good then he will be down the road.

Let's hope that it does not take all year to sort out the 2015 Ducati bike.

The rubbing and passing in MotoGP was sweet as. That is what these jokers live for. It is only the PC brigade who think that stuff is out of line.

Its pretty easy when Ducati do a cry baby saying their bike is slow and somehow end up not being factory entries but open class which means more fuel, any software they like, more engines, softer tyres, and unlimited testing. Reminds me of WSBK.

merv

3rd September 2014, 18:40

Hopefully the older chaps on here might be able to tell me what's what, but has anyone ever made the successful switch from being a WSBK champion to being competitive in Motogp? All I have to go off are the recent examples I remember of Ben Spies and Crutchlow, both whom entered the championship with high expectations but have not delivered.

I know the likes of Biaggi and Melandri went the other way from GP racing to WSBK.

I don't think a WSBK rider has ever won a GP championship, but Biaggi and Kocinski who were both 250GP champions did drop "down" to WSBK and win the championship.

Colin and Troy Bayliss both went up and won the odd race and that is about it.

Checa and Chili dropped down and won races and Checa the championship but neither one won a GP championship.

That's as far as I know.

GD66

3rd September 2014, 18:59

Nicely summed up Merv.

Except to say that Edwards muffed the one chance he had to win a GP when he had a brainfade on the artificial turf of the Assen chicane...Bayliss' amazing win at Valencia, however was one for the ages...:drinknsin

pritch

3rd September 2014, 19:19

But thanks for the sarcasm. :motu:

You're welcome. Please don't drink all that Margaret River red, leave some for me.:drinkup:

James Toseland is another who came across as champ and didn't take the Moto GP world by storm. Sam Lowes is the most recent transferee and is current WSS champ.

Shaun Harris

3rd September 2014, 19:21

[QUOTE=Reckless;1130767228]Had to stay away from the net till we finally watched it.

Moto 3 great as ever? I think young Marquez is gunning for the prize there and if our little aussy doesn't start racing to win races instead of "thinking of the championship" he'll loose it for sure.

From what I am seeing, the KTM is just a TAD slower ( And I do mean a tad )than the Honda, and with so many hot shots trying to win it is going to be bloody for Ozzy to win. I do not think he is playing it safe thinking of the champs personally

Autech

3rd September 2014, 19:27

I don't think a WSBK rider has ever won a GP championship, but Biaggi and Kocinski who were both 250GP champions did drop "down" to WSBK and win the championship.

Colin and Troy Bayliss both went up and won the odd race and that is about it.

Checa and Chili dropped down and won races and Checa the championship but neither one won a GP championship.

That's as far as I know.

Cheers for the sum up :2thumbsup

From what I am seeing, the KTM is just a TAD slower ( And I do mean a tad )than the Honda, and with so many hot shots trying to win it is going to be bloody for Ozzy to win. I do not think he is playing it safe thinking of the champs personally

Funny how the KTM used to own the Honda till this year and now the Honda is fractionally quicker. Vazquez's seems to be miles faster than even the other Honda's though.

Miller is doing his best to finish races, remember he has had a few DNF's which cost him some very valuable points. I'm sure he will be back up there soon enough, when you are one of 17 going for the win you are bound to not make it on the podium a few times.

Shaun Harris

3rd September 2014, 19:46

Cheers for the sum up :2thumbsup

Funny how the KTM used to own the Honda till this year and now the Honda is fractionally quicker. Vazquez's seems to be miles faster than even the other Honda's though.

Miller is doing his best to finish races, remember he has had a few DNF's which cost him some very valuable points. I'm sure he will be back up there soon enough, when you are one of 17 going for the win you are bound to not make it on the podium a few times.

Yea it sure did and I have thought the same thing re Markez bike a couple of times this year and had forgotten about the DNf's for Miller. Luckily for miller I am sure next years contract/job does not totally relly on winning the championship but obviously he will want it big time, but but but, if One of the top go down they are all that close a few will go together like bolling pins

Crasherfromwayback

4th September 2014, 00:54

. Last year he had a lot of pressure on his shoulders to win his rookie season and some fierce competition in the forms of Pedrosa and Lorenzo. As a result he did some dumb shit, but it certainly made for damn good entertainment! It all is a little hard to watch as a fierce Dani Pedrosa supporter though, but that's what marks a true fan someone who backs their man no matter how they are doing. Rossi's fan base is as large as it ever was despite all that has happened with him since going to Ducati.

Why? Does being a staunch Pedro or Rossi fan blind you to the pure skill of the guy beating your *heros*

What *dumb shit* are you referring to? I saw more *dumb shit* from Lorenzo last season than I did from MM. Get real. The others are being handed their arses on a plate much as they were when Stoner did it to them. Same old excuses apply though it seems.

Shaun Harris

4th September 2014, 09:14

http://imgur.com/09sUsBU

I think he has told himself he is " SCARED" of crashing to many times now and may just be done- The boys are thinking like you Pete

Shaun Harris

4th September 2014, 10:30

http://youtu.be/5Er8ElDPPio M Markez show

Autech

4th September 2014, 10:52

Why? Does being a staunch Pedro or Rossi fan blind you to the pure skill of the guy beating your *heros*

What *dumb shit* are you referring to? I saw more *dumb shit* from Lorenzo last season than I did from MM. Get real. The others are being handed their arses on a plate much as they were when Stoner did it to them. Same old excuses apply though it seems.

Running up the back of his team mate for one, bashing Lorenzo out of the way... Staying out on track too long at Phillip Island then cutting up Lorenzo when re entering the track on one of the fastest corners in motorsport. Need I continue? Made for a great season though.

He's certainly much more mature this year though which is why I think he is kicking so much butt, total focus and dedication to winning with a great team behind him providing him the tools to win.

If you read closely enough you would have noticed I said it's hard watching your man get beaten every week (by a superior rider/bike set up, you chose why) but that's what make a true fan, someone who backs their man.
If you don't have a favourite rider to win, all you are doing is watching bikes go round n round. Went to rugby game recently between Auckland and Canterbury, neither of which I supported and was bored out of my tits.

F5 Dave

4th September 2014, 11:12

.. .
If you don't have a favourite rider to win, all you are doing is watching bikes go round n round. Went to rugby game recently between Auckland and Canterbury, neither of which I supported and was bored out of my tits.
That's ' cause a bunch of adults standing around watching another bunch of adults playing a kids ball game is boring as shit. Whereas watching top riders duke it out is entertaining.

'course the bikes all sound like shit these days:lol:

Crasherfromwayback

4th September 2014, 11:46

Running up the back of his team mate for one, bashing Lorenzo out of the way... Staying out on track too long at Phillip Island then cutting up Lorenzo when re entering the track on one of the fastest corners in motorsport. Need I continue? .

Can't have been round too long eh?

Oscar

4th September 2014, 12:36

Can't have been round too long eh?

Was it Schwantz and Rainey at Suzuki?
In the last hairpin?

What about Biaggi trying to coathanger Rossi off the track?

HenryDorsetCase

4th September 2014, 12:47

Went to rugby game recently between Auckland and Canterbury, neither of which I supported and was bored out of my tits.

there's your problem.

Crasherfromwayback

4th September 2014, 12:48

Was it Schwantz and Rainey at Suzuki?
In the last hairpin?

What about Biaggi trying to coathanger Rossi off the track?

Or Doohan into the arse of Schwantz, or Pedro into the side of Hayden, or Lorenzo into the arse of Hayden and so it goes. Fuck me...the kid crashed out of one gp last year. How many times have previous champs crashed out in the first season with the big boys? And how many of them actually won the title first time out?

pritch

4th September 2014, 13:07

the kid crashed out of one gp last year. How many times have previous champs crashed out in the first season with the big boys? And how many of them actually won the title first time out?

It's not like his competition is soft, Lorenzo, Rossi and Pedrosa would not be rated pushovers.

That lap counting fuck up at Phillip Island wasn't Marquez' fault, the team were trying to get an edge. Too clever for their own good. It probably didn't help if the rule amendments were not in their first language either.

Mental Trousers

4th September 2014, 22:37

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Salucci+e+Tebaldi+VR46+Team+Manager

WTF has happened to Vitto?

Shaun Harris

5th September 2014, 06:13

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Salucci+e+Tebaldi+VR46+Team+Manager

WTF has happened to Vitto?

Sacked his arse for causing to much chaos inside the team

pritch

5th September 2014, 08:55

WTF has happened to Vitto?

Pick the bones outa this:
http://www.gpone.com/en/2014090314641/Fuori-Guareschi-dentro-Uccio-e-Salucci.html

If that is in Italian click on the little union jack right near the top of the page. It will then appear in something resembling English - sort of.

Shaun Harris

6th September 2014, 03:00

Josh Heron Finished in moto2 see link below that works

He will go forward though

jasonu

6th September 2014, 14:57

Josh Heron Finished

http://www.caterhammoto2.com/2014/09...m-moto-racing/

Nothing at the end of that link.

merv

6th September 2014, 15:41

Nothing at the end of that link.

Read it on Soup instead then http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Sep/140905b.htm

Shaun Harris

6th September 2014, 18:38

Read it on Soup instead then http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Sep/140905b.htm

Thanks Merv sorry I had not checked it. I was lying in a hospital bed loaded up on Morphine getting all the metal work out of both of my legs finally.

roogazza

7th September 2014, 08:00

Crutchlow explaining how he rides like Stoner ? :shutup:
300675

merv

7th September 2014, 10:16

Crutchlow explaining how he rides like Stoner ? :shutup:

What? Into retirement? That's going to be his only similarity if he doesn't stop talking and get on with it.

roogazza

7th September 2014, 10:20

What? Into retirement? That's going to be his only similarity if he doesn't stop talking and get on with it.
The look on MM and Rossis' faces is like WTF ???

Shaun Harris

7th September 2014, 10:36

Crutchlow explaining how he rides like Stoner ? :shutup:
300675

Talking about his arthritis ( Hahaha) actually

merv

7th September 2014, 11:08

By the way, just started reading the Stoner book on Kindle. I'm only a few chapters in and so far its a good read. No mention of Crutchlow being the next big thing in those chapters but a lot about how close Casey was to his older sister Kelly (6 years older) who was a damn good bike rider herself at the time, but then went onto cycling and more recently singing. Not sure what she is doing now.

pritch

7th September 2014, 12:55

Talking about his arthritis ( Hahaha) actually

That was the origional caption, there was a question about that too but I didn't see the answer. If, in fact, he was talking about his shoulder Rossi could be expected to be a bit sympathetic since he basically lost a season to a shoulder injury suffered in MX training.

Shoulder injuries have ended careers, like f'rinstance Ben Spies.

Shaun Harris

7th September 2014, 14:46

there is going to be some real interesting seat filling taking place in the next few weeks once Redding is commited

roogazza

12th September 2014, 08:39

Misano this weekend and no chat on here for a week,so here's a snippet to start on .
http://www.motomatters.com/interview/2014/09/11/mike_leitner_interview_pedrosa_s_crew_ch.html

More importantly Nigella is looking stunning lately.(still)
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pritch

12th September 2014, 10:30

The MotoGP rumour mill has been in overdrive. The hottest rumour being that Honda are trying to get Jeremy Burgess to head Jack Miller's pit crew in MotoGP. Rossi says this would be a brilliant move for Miller as Burgess could pass on a wealth of information. This rumour was so hot that Honda have issued a formal denial.

Colin Edwards commented that the more power Miller has, the more he will be able to show his talent.

There will be no changes to Rossi's pit crew. Rossi's goal is to finish second in the championship but he wants to win a race before the end of the season.

There was another hot rumour that Lorenzo's crew chief was off to Suzuki. That was also denied and a statement issued that the pit crew will stay the same as this year.

So many teams are switching to Kalex that Suter are considering withdrawing from racing. It's not *that* long since Marquez was winning on a Suter. This will leave Moto2 as a class with one engine, and with a couple of exceptions, a single frame. A long way short of the hopes that were held for the class when it originated.
It was hoped that all sorts of weird and wonderful steering and suspension solutions would appear but no, the team managers don't like "different".

I hope I have all that right, it can be tricky reading that stuff when you wake up at three or four in the morning. :whistle:

Shaun Harris

12th September 2014, 10:51

Redding is sure getting the famous Honda run around

Bender

12th September 2014, 10:59

So many teams are switching to Kalex that Suter are considering withdrawing from racing. It's not *that* long since Marquez was winning on a Suter. This will leave Moto2 as a class with one engine, and with a couple of exceptions, a single frame. A long way short of the hopes that were held for the class when it originated.
It was hoped that all sorts of weird and wonderful steering and suspension solutions would appear but no, the team managers don't like "different".

Marquez was the only one winning on a Suter which caused other teams to wonder if he was cheating . Of course as soon as he stepped aboard the RCV it all became clear - the guy is freakishly fast.

I thought the Brough Superior/Taylormade carbon fibre monocoque that raced in the British GP (Moto2 class) was a very interesting concept (radiator under the seat - where have we seen that before?). I'd like to see that concept developed to its full potential. All they wanted to do was put the bike under race conditions and it at least finished, so they were sort of happy.

Feature on the bike is here. (http://www.brough-superior.com/ws/frontend/seite/SeiteCms.php?coId=1114&coType=navigation1)

Taylormade is here. (http://www.racetaylormade.com/)

Shaun Harris

12th September 2014, 11:16

Marquez was the only one winning on a Suter which caused other teams to wonder if he was cheating . Of course as soon as he stepped aboard the RCV it all became clear - the guy is freakishly fast.

I thought the Brough Superior/Taylormade carbon fibre monocoque that raced in the British GP (Moto2 class) was a very interesting concept (radiator under the seat - where have we seen that before?). I'd like to see that concept developed to its full potential. All they wanted to do was put the bike under race conditions and it at least finished, so they were sort of happy.

Feature on the bike is here. (http://www.brough-superior.com/ws/frontend/seite/SeiteCms.php?coId=1114&coType=navigation1)

Taylormade is here. (http://www.racetaylormade.com/)

Well nothing really achieved by just finishing man as the engine is the same spec and condition as all others out there. The only thing they proved was there chassis parts do not brake! And great for that I say

Bender

12th September 2014, 13:40

Well nothing really achieved by just finishing man as the engine is the same spec and condition as all others out there. The only thing they proved was there chassis parts do not brake! And great for that I say

At least they are trying something different - this class was meant to foster innovation but what we have is, in effect, a spec chassis and a spec engine. It would have been great to see half a dozen different concepts racing.

And the worst thing is that Moto2 has become, in the large part, boring to watch. Pity because it had promise.

Mental Trousers

12th September 2014, 13:58

So many teams are switching to Kalex that Suter are considering withdrawing from racing. It's not *that* long since Marquez was winning on a Suter. This will leave Moto2 as a class with one engine, and with a couple of exceptions, a single frame. A long way short of the hopes that were held for the class when it originated.
It was hoped that all sorts of weird and wonderful steering and suspension solutions would appear but no, the team managers don't like "different".

Very few sponsors will risk money on unproven concepts. There have been a few exceptions but there don't seem to be any that want to take the risk these days.

I thought the Brough Superior/Taylormade carbon fibre monocoque that raced in the British GP (Moto2 class) was a very interesting concept (radiator under the seat - where have we seen that before?). I'd like to see that concept developed to its full potential. All they wanted to do was put the bike under race conditions and it at least finished, so they were sort of happy.

Feature on the bike is here. (http://www.brough-superior.com/ws/frontend/seite/SeiteCms.php?coId=1114&coType=navigation1)

Taylormade is here. (http://www.racetaylormade.com/)

I thought it would've done better than it did because they've been racing and developing the thing quite intensely for the last couple of years, or at least I thought they had been. Reading through the problems they had at Silverstone made me wonder if they'd actually tested a complete bike.

I'd love to see something like the Brough Superior do well, if only to make things more interesting from a technology point of view.

Shaun Harris

12th September 2014, 14:21

At least they are trying something different - this class was meant to foster innovation but what we have is, in effect, a spec chassis and a spec engine. It would have been great to see half a dozen different concepts racing.

And the worst thing is that Moto2 has become, in the large part, boring to watch. Pity because it had promise.

TRUE! in no way was I knocking them man, just used your comment re success as a reference to what the success was really all about

Bender

12th September 2014, 14:48

TRUE! in no way was I knocking them man, just used your comment re success as a reference to what the success was really all about

I didn't say anything about success, just that they wanted to test the concept and they were "sort of happy" with the result.

Shaun Harris

12th September 2014, 16:09

I didn't say anything about success, just that they wanted to test the concept and they were "sort of happy" with the result.

ok then Guess communication and comments are not my my forte so will not add anymore

merv

12th September 2014, 16:51

More importantly Nigella is looking stunning lately.(still)
300792300793

You should eat more Whittakers yourself Gaz to smooth out the wrinkles just like your girlfriend does.

merv

12th September 2014, 16:56

As for Moto2 I have little interest in people racing bikes that are no-names - okay Honda engines, but who goes to the shop to drool over a Kalex or a Suter. A stupid concept in my view, Dorna should have kept the manufacturers properly interested and had them racing bikes in their own name.

GD66

12th September 2014, 19:09

Yes. Well, that's because Dorna are fuckwits, Merv, and are the last possible group of people you would want governing the future of the sport.

roogazza

12th September 2014, 19:42

You should eat more Whittakers yourself Gaz to smooth out the wrinkles just like your girlfriend does.

I'd like to melt some Whittakers and put it all............ooops !
:eek5: :drool: :lol: Mmmmm .

Erelyes

12th September 2014, 20:27

The only thing they proved was there chassis parts do not brake! And great for that I say

Just as well the chassis doesn't brake, cos it's the brakes that brake, provided they don't break of course. :whistle:

pritch

12th September 2014, 21:02

Just as well the chassis doesn't brake, cos it's the brakes that brake, provided they don't break of course. :whistle:

That's OK, we knew what he meant. Doesn't pay to expect too much in the way of literacy on KB, most cant even spell the interrogative "eh" correctly, and that's only two letters. God only knows what the bloody teachers do all day?

doc

12th September 2014, 21:21

More importantly Nigella is looking stunning lately.(still)

That's it I'm off to bed. In my Onesie with the tissues

pritch

13th September 2014, 08:54

A real crash fest overnight. A cold, wet track and "hard" wet tyres meant riders went down as soon as they touched the brakes. Zero lean angle but down they went anyway. Very expensive practice in terms of bike parts and leathers.

speights_bud

13th September 2014, 09:00

And to top it off Smith was the first to fall :eek:

Shaun Harris

13th September 2014, 09:00

Shaun Harris

13th September 2014, 09:01

And to top it off Smith was the first to fall :eek:

someone had to be or they were all being pussies not trying hard enough

speights_bud

13th September 2014, 09:04

Yeah, conditions looked shit

Shaun Harris

13th September 2014, 09:09

Yeah, conditions looked shit

Track temp of 20 and lower is NOT good at all for those bikes and tyres, NZ scene is fine but that is only club fun stuff

roogazza

13th September 2014, 09:16

62 fallers on the first day !
FP2.......
http://www.motomatters.com/results/2014/09/12/2014_misano_motogp_fp2_results_dovizioso.html

Don't panic Ethel,early days yet !

speights_bud

13th September 2014, 09:24

Track temp of 20 and lower is NOT good at all for those bikes and tyres, NZ scene is fine but that is only club fun stuff
That + the hard compound wet tyre

NZsarge

13th September 2014, 09:36

More importantly Nigella is looking stunning lately.(still)
300792300793

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

Shaun Harris

13th September 2014, 10:51

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

She an't that hot, just av good looking in my eyes

pritch

13th September 2014, 11:10

2015 related Spoiler- all just made up by me

Peter Benson to be crew chief for Scott Redding on a factory Honda for the VDS team- A very cool future for Redding I say with a calm cool kiwi crew chief like Peter

Possible, but last year Benson was quoted as saying that his last experience at Honda was so unpleasant that he did not wish to repeat the experience. That was the reason he gave for staying in Moto2 when Redding went to play with the big kids.

The rumour about JB returning to Honda with Miller also seems unlikely as that would be like Honda saying, "Come back Jeremy, all is forgiven."
As JB said of Honda after the move to Yamaha, "We burned our bridges there."

Shaun Harris

13th September 2014, 11:26

Possible, but last year Benson was quoted as saying that his last experience at Honda was so unpleasant that he did not wish to repeat the experience. That was the reason he gave for staying in Moto2 when Redding went to play with the big kids.

The rumour about JB returning to Honda with Miller also seems unlikely as that would be like Honda saying, "Come back Jeremy, all is forgiven."
As JB said of Honda after the move to Yamaha, "We burned our bridges there."

Peter's comment was in relation to working for HRC direct mate.

roogazza

13th September 2014, 11:54

She an't that hot, just av good looking in my eyes
She'd be lucky to have ya huh !
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sugilite

13th September 2014, 12:26

She an't that hot, just av good looking in my eyes
You kidding? She could wave her cup cakes in my face any day or night :drool:

Shaun Harris

13th September 2014, 12:30

You kidding? She could wave her cup cakes in my face any day or night :drool:

Beauty is in the eyes of the be holder guys, and Skinny model style bony boddies just do not do it for me at all

sugilite

13th September 2014, 12:37

Beauty is in the eyes of the be holder guys, and Skinny model style bony boddies just do not do it for me at all

You know we are talking about Nigella, Not Nigel Latta eh?

george formby

13th September 2014, 12:41

Beauty is in the eyes of the be holder guys, and Skinny model style bony boddies just do not do it for me at all

Eh, Nigella skinny & bony?
Do you find yourself becoming aroused watching documentaries on the mating habits of Elephant Seals? :eek:

Shaun Harris

13th September 2014, 12:53

Eh, Nigella skinny & bony?
Do you find yourself becoming aroused watching documentaries on the mating habits of Elephant Seals? :eek:

haha I only looked at the link above that just shows her face to be honest

NZsarge

14th September 2014, 05:50

She an't that hot, just av good looking in my eyes

Each to his own but in my eyes she's gorgeous

Reckless

14th September 2014, 10:18

Wish them luck, so thats Suzuki and Aprilia in next year :)

http://www.sportrider.com/sportbike-news/gresini-and-aprilia-sign-four-year-contract

Shaun Harris

14th September 2014, 10:51

Wish them luck, so thats Suzuki and Aprilia in next year :)

http://www.sportrider.com/sportbike-news/gresini-and-aprilia-sign-four-year-contract

Hell yea, the more the maryier. I would love to see Redding on the Suzuki

pritch

14th September 2014, 10:54

It has been reportedl Eugene Laverty is in talks with two MotoGP teams.

roogazza

14th September 2014, 11:00

Reckless

14th September 2014, 11:28

Two Yams and a Duc on the front row.
Horhay , Joe and Flossy in that order. Nice for a change.

From SB Planet, on Vale's latest hat:

As usual, Vale has a special helmet for the home event. The design plays on the fact that the Italian word for hand - mano - rhymes with Misano, it's the handprints of his crew, family and friends plus the paw prints of his dog and cat and two kisses - from his girlfriend and his mother. It doesn't look too good close up but it's great from a distance.

Is the Duc there because of the soft tyres?? Still annoys the shit out of me if it is?
All that does is stuff up the first laps of the race as Rossi alluded to in something I read about the last race.

Looks like Milandri has his fingers crossed for the Aprilia to

Melandri on Gresini and Aprilia in MotoGP™

Melandri on Gresini and Aprilia in MotoGP™
Friday, 12 September 2014
Former MotoGP™ rider Marco Melandri is present at the Gran Premio TIM di San Marino e della Riviera di Rimini this weekend and is pleased to see Gresini Racing and Aprilia Racing agree to team up for 2015.
The former 250cc World Champion and MotoGP race winner left Grand Prix racing at the end of the 2010 season and is currently riding for the Aprilia Racing Team in the eni FIM Superbike World Championship.

Asked about whether he could be returning to MotoGP to be reunited with the Gresini Racing team - for whom he rode in the 2005-07 period – and to ride the Aprilia next year, Melandri answered: “It’s nice to see Gresini and Aprilia together. For me I will stay for sure with Aprilia. I have to understand what they will do, even in Superbikes, but I feel at home with Aprilia. So it’s going to be great to try and develop the bike myself.”

“I want to be back (in MotoGP) but I don’t want to be just a number. I know at the beginning it’s not going to be easy. I’m sure working step-by-step we can get a good result.”

Melandri’s aforementioned 250cc World title was achieved on Aprilia machinery in 2002. He later spent eight consecutive seasons in the premier class riding Yamaha, Honda, Ducati and Kawasaki machines, with his five MotoGP victories coming during his spell with Gresini.

Shaun Harris

14th September 2014, 12:41

[QUOTE=Reckless;1130770552]Is the Duc there because of the soft tyres?? Still annoys the shit out of me if it is?
All that does is stuff up the first laps of the race as Rossi alluded to in something I read about the last race.

YES it is, and Iannone is undecided on what tyre to race on as yet. This rule will be even worse next year with the aprillia and Suzuki using it also

Drew

14th September 2014, 12:52

I don't think it's a bad thing, that they get to make uncompetitive bikes compete for a while.

Makes it exciting to watch. Bums in seats is the goal in the end.

GD66

14th September 2014, 13:04

Is the Duc there because of the soft tyres?? Still annoys the shit out of me if it is?All that does is stuff up the first laps of the race as Rossi alluded to in something I read about the last race

Nothing wrong with that, at least it gives us half a race of knuckle-up before the inevitable tyre degradation sets in, normal order is restored and they run for the flag. If this wasn't happening, forum contributors worldwide would continue their pitiful "that race was BORING" bleating, clearly they aren't looking closely enough at what's required to get a GP bike round a track quickly.
Make no mistake, the Dorna knob jockeys are in the business of entertainment, not the purity of racing, so these flurries of defiance by Ducati and co while the tyres last may be artificial, but at least they are good viewing.
And if the tyre company can ever get their intermediates to last a full race, Dovi is an increasingly good chance to finish on the box one day soon.

pritch

14th September 2014, 23:15

All that does is stuff up the first laps of the race as Rossi alluded to in something I read about the last race.

The commentary team were discussing this again during qualifying this morning. Marquez likes to give the Duc and satellite riders a tow during qualifying so as to put them between himself and the likes of Lorenzo, Pedrosa, and Rossi on the grid. He has no desire to give the other factory riders a tow. At one point he looked around at Ianone as much as to say, "Keep up."

Stoner used to whinge about the "caravans" but then he wasn't really a glass half full kinda guy. Marquez has turned a potential piss-off into a plus. OK, it did bite him on the arse a bit this morning but this is the first time this season he isn't on pole.

NZsarge

15th September 2014, 00:45

Hell yeah!!!! Woo hoo!!!!

jasonu

15th September 2014, 04:22

VR the first rider to 5000 world championship points.:clap::clap::clap:

pritch

15th September 2014, 07:20

Wow! Just wow.

roogazza

15th September 2014, 08:58

Valeeeeee !

300897

pritch

15th September 2014, 09:05

It was getting late and I had an appointment this morning so I was agonising whether to hit the hay or stay up for the race. Struck a compromise and went to bed with the iPad. Didn't have much trouble staying awake.

And Marc VDS are going to MotoGP with a factory RCV for Scott Redding. Maybe Shaun was right and Pete Benson will head the crew?

Shaun Harris

15th September 2014, 10:02

Reckless

15th September 2014, 11:09

Bugger bugger bugger!!

My son and I have this thing goin about Moto GP nights, Bourbon and kettle fries so it has to be tonight :)
I usually stay off the net so as to avoid the result well I screwed up this morning by clicking into fuckbook. First thing that pops up "ROSSI WINS" Faaarrrk :(

But good on him he's reinvented himself and last article I read was even big enough to admit his mistakes i.e. the garage wall etc. I watched the full pre race interviews on MOtoGP.com and him and JL seem to be getting on best I've seen. Good on the old fox :)
Was wondering if you took his first win and his last win if he'd have the longest career at the top in MotoGP???

The commentary team were discussing this again during qualifying this morning. Marquez likes to give the Duc and satellite riders a tow during qualifying so as to put them between himself and the likes of Lorenzo, Pedrosa, and Rossi on the grid. He has no desire to give the other factory riders a tow. At one point he looked around at Ianone as much as to say, "Keep up."

Stoner used to whinge about the "caravans" but then he wasn't really a glass half full kinda guy. Marquez has turned a potential piss-off into a plus. OK, it did bite him on the arse a bit this morning but this is the first time this season he isn't on pole.

That's exactly what Rossi was commenting on it lost him the tow in the previous race and he lost touch with MM and JL. Call me a purest but I don't agree (bloody hate) bikes having different rules in the same race it screws everything up, but I guess we just have to put up with it until 2016?? IT might give aprilia and Suzuki a bit more hope in their first season to if they enter under those rules but the placings and times are artificial to me.

Sounds like a great nights racing to be had if Moto2 and 3 are as good as last race to :)

Oscar

15th September 2014, 11:23

Alex Barros won in Spain in 1993 and in Portugal in 2005 (when he was 35).
His career went from 1986 to 2007.

Autech

15th September 2014, 11:38

Awesome race, what a crowd! How good was Rossi sticking it to Marquez? You pass me, I pass you! Bring on Aragon as there should be all four of them going at it if last year was anything to go by.

Great once again to see Ducati up there, I know they held Dani up a bit but for Dovi to stick with him to the end is great for the sport as it has been a long time coming. I know they are running under different rules, but if it makes the racing better I'm all for it.

HenryDorsetCase

15th September 2014, 12:25

Grumph

15th September 2014, 13:08

[QUOTE=Reckless;
Was wondering if you took his first win and his last win if he'd have the longest career at the top in MotoGP???
[/QUOTE]

Moto GP hasn't really been around that long...if you want to see long careers have a look at several guys who won GP's in the 1930's and came back and won post war up to the mid 1950's.
Most unlikely to happen now due to the greater number of races and more demands on their time. it's been suggested in a lot of sports science research that 15 years is probably the maximum length of pro sport career now. darts players would seem to be excepted...and Vale.....

Bender

15th September 2014, 13:38

I was one of the people who suggested that Rossi was past his prime.

Last night the wily old fox showed me how much I know.

Fantastic result although I would have preferred to have MM and VR dicing like that through the whole race.

Good enough for now.

Asher

15th September 2014, 14:00

I think Rossi put on his leathers that day thinking win or crash. Made for an amazing race.

Also poor Folger, race direction shafted him.

pritch

15th September 2014, 14:09

Moto GP hasn't really been around that long...if you want to see long careers have a look at several guys who won GP's in the 1930's and came back and won post war up to the mid 1950's.

Umm this is how Dorna see it,

Boasting 65 years of history, MotoGP is the oldest of all motorsports World Championships - its first annual competition having been held in 1949.
From the early 1900s motorcycle Grands Prix were held in various countries and in 1938 the predecessor to the current FIM, the FICM (Fédération Internationale des Clubs Motocyclistes), announced a European Championship. However, the start of the Second World War interrupted the competition and it then took some time after the war for fuel to become available, before a truly international series could be created.

EARLY DAYS
When the first formal World Championship was held in 1949 Grand Prix racing comprised four solo classes, with the inaugural ‘premier class’ 500cc title being won by British rider Leslie Graham on AJS machinery. Another Brit, Freddie Frith (Velocette) took the first ever 350cc World title, while Italians Bruno Ruffo (Moto Guzzi) and Nello Pagani (Mondial) were the first 250cc and 125cc World Champions respectively.
A 600cc sidecar championship in the same season was won by Britons Eric Oliver and Denis Jenkinson with Norton machinery, though the sidecar category became a 500cc competition in 1951.

Robert Leslie (Les) Graham DFC was a Lancaster pilot in the war. There is a memorial to him on Snaefel in the IoM, the memorial though is not at the site of hs accident.
His road racing career started in 1929 and ended tragically in 1953. So thats a span of 24 years. As Grumph suggests Rossi has a way to go, but not *that* far - he started in 1993.

pritch

15th September 2014, 15:29

Oh almost forgot, as an aspiring curmudgeon - although some may dispute the aspiring part - Nick Harris' pronunciation of "Bastianini" got up my nose again last night.
So I sent a message to Dorna asking that they please get someone to tell Harris how to pronounce the name.

Then during the MotoGP race he started to pronounce Tavullia as Tavoola. Now I'm worried. That's the same "ia" combination that defeats him in Bastianini's monicker.
I hope he doesn't have a reading disability because then I'll feel bad. Well, just a little. If he isn't sure he could at least ask his co-commentator.

sugilite

15th September 2014, 16:35

Yep, that was great seeing Rossi put the bit between his teeth and win a straight up fist fight! Racing is such a confidence game, it would be great to see him put the gloves on every race now! :yes:

Grumph

15th September 2014, 17:05

Umm this is how Dorna see it,

Boasting 65 years of history, MotoGP is the oldest of all motorsports World Championships - its first annual competition having been held in 1949.
From the early 1900s motorcycle Grands Prix were held in various countries and in 1938 the predecessor to the current FIM, the FICM (Fédération Internationale des Clubs Motocyclistes), announced a European Championship. However, the start of the Second World War interrupted the competition and it then took some time after the war for fuel to become available, before a truly international series could be created.

EARLY DAYS
When the first formal World Championship was held in 1949 Grand Prix racing comprised four solo classes, with the inaugural ‘premier class’ 500cc title being won by British rider Leslie Graham on AJS machinery. Another Brit, Freddie Frith (Velocette) took the first ever 350cc World title, while Italians Bruno Ruffo (Moto Guzzi) and Nello Pagani (Mondial) were the first 250cc and 125cc World Champions respectively.
A 600cc sidecar championship in the same season was won by Britons Eric Oliver and Denis Jenkinson with Norton machinery, though the sidecar category became a 500cc competition in 1951.

Robert Leslie (Les) Graham DFC was a Lancaster pilot in the war. There is a memorial to him on Snaefel in the IoM, the memorial though is not at the site of hs accident.
His road racing career started in 1929 and ended tragically in 1953. So thats a span of 24 years. As Grumph suggests Rossi has a way to go, but not *that* far - he started in 1993.

As an old bastard, i don't consider that dorna had any right to adopt the previous history of world championship motorcycle racing and call it "Moto GP".....I'm very sure that the people who competed previous wouldn't recognise it now. But that's just my opinion....

roogazza

15th September 2014, 19:50

- Nick Harris' pronunciation of "Bastianini" got up my nose again last night.
So I sent a message to Dorna asking that they please get someone to tell Harris how to pronounce the name.
Good ,he gives me the shits every GP pritch !
Then during the MotoGP race he started to pronounce Tavullia as Tavoola. Now I'm worried. That's the same "ia" combination that defeats him in Bastianini's monicker.
I hope he doesn't have a reading disability because then I'll feel bad. Well, just a little. If he isn't sure he could at least ask his co-commentator.
I thought last night that if he would just shutup or talk slower and half as much it would be an improvement.
Who's the other dude,he was better ?
Anyway pritch , great racing ,I enjoyed the lot. Vale winning was a bonus.

pritch

15th September 2014, 21:08

As an old bastard, i don't consider that dorna had any right to adopt the previous history of world championship motorcycle racing and call it "Moto GP".....I'm very sure that the people who competed previous wouldn't recognise it now. But that's just my opinion....

While unsure of the exact legal details I believe Dorna run the World Championship for the FIM.
Basically it's still the FIM championship but the day to day running and marketing has been taken over by Dorna. Especially the marketing... :whistle:

Things have changed though, riders didn't used to have big motorhomes, they used to sleep in vans or with their bikes in tents. One used to sleep in the back of a Mark VII Jag. Then again over half a century has passed and the whole world has moved on. I am nervous about the big money that motivates the sport now. But I'm loving the racing and the fact that I can get it on my computer or my TV while it's actually happening. That's different to how it used to be too.

Reckless

16th September 2014, 10:11

Dunno why but I've never really liked him his moves always seemed a bit desperate/dangerous? His interviews a little I love me??
I reckon he's lucky Aprilia has saved his ass.

Right choice you reckon???

Bautista joins Aprilia for 2015 season

Bautista joins Aprilia for 2015 season
Monday, 15 September 2014
Spanish rider Alvaro Bautista will ride one of the official Aprilias that will race next year in the MotoGP™ Championship, managed by the Aprilia Gresini Racing Team.
The agreement with Bautista is valid for two years, for the 2015 and 2016 seasons. A rider with vast experience, Bautista – born in Talavera de la Reina on 21 November 1984 – took his first world championship steps astride an Aprilia 125cc, which he rode to victory as World Champion in the "eighth litre" class in 2006.

In his fifth year in the top category, MotoGP™, Bautista boasts 3 podiums and one pole position and his trophy case includes a total of 16 wins, 33 podiums and 18 pole positions.

The signing of Alvaro Bautista comes just a few hours after the official announcement that the Aprilia brand will return to the MotoGP™ World Championship – already in 2015, one year ahead of the previously announced plan – through a four year cooperation with the Gresini Racing Team and Aprilia Racing manager, Romano Albesiano, commented with satisfaction.

"This represents another step in defining the team that will take the Aprilia bikes onto the track for the next MotoGP™ season" said Mr Albesiano. "On Friday we announced our return to the championship with Gresini Racing. Today we have inserted another very important tile in the mosaic by announcing Bautista's signing. I am particularly satisfied because Alvaro has been confirmed on a team that he already knows well, creating the basis for that rapidity in finding maximum competitiveness that led us to moving up our plans to return to MotoGP™".

"I am happy to be able to continue working with Bautista - confirmed Fausto Gresini - Alvaro has significant experience in MotoGP™ so his contribution will certainly be essential in developing the new projects with Aprilia in the best possible way. I believe very much in him and his potential and I am confident that he will be able to bring us the results we are expecting. Also, this two year agreement will allow us to maintain continuity in the bond between Alvaro and Gresini racing which was formed in 2012 and that has been strengthened over the years".

Also enthusiastic about the new project is Alvaro Bautista: "I am very happy to have signed an agreement with Aprilia or the next to MotoGP™ World Championship seasons. Working in close contact with a manufacturer is what I wanted for my future and Aprilia has offered me a great chance. I am also very motivated to embark on this new adventure because I am coming back to a brand that has brought me great satisfaction in the past and with which I have shared some great times. Above all, the cooperation between Aprilia Racing and Gresini Racing will allow me to stay on a team that I've been racing with already for three years and which has become like a family to me. I have worked directly for a manufacturer in the past and I really liked developing a new project together. Knowing that I'll be able to count on the support of so many engineers and technicians is exciting and I can't wait to get started working with them".

roogazza

16th September 2014, 10:37

Dunno why but I've never really liked him his moves always seemed a bit desperate/dangerous? His interviews a little I love me??
I reckon he's lucky Aprilia has saved his ass.
Right choice you reckon???
[I]Bautista joins Aprilia for 2015 season

The signing of Alvaro Bautista comes just a few hours after the official announcement that the Aprilia brand will return to the MotoGP™ World Championship – already in 2015, one year ahead of the previously announced plan – through a four year cooperation with the Gresini Racing Team and Aprilia Racing manager, Romano Albesiano, commented with satisfaction.
]

I followed him a bit in 250 Reckless, he had some good rides there.But he does seem a loose unit in Motogp. He has been involved in a few bingles.
I met his personal trainer this year and he seemed to think that the potential is there.
Maybe he has contacts or brings money to Gresini ??/

Shaun Harris

16th September 2014, 10:39

He has huge potentuall and the proffessionals in the sport know that or he would not be there still or with a new factory contract.

codgyoleracer

16th September 2014, 11:17

Yep, that was great seeing Rossi put the bit between his teeth and win a straight up fist fight! Racing is such a confidence game, it would be great to see him put the gloves on every race now! :yes:

Looks like Yamaha drive and top end now pretty good too - bonus!

roogazza

16th September 2014, 11:31

Looks like Yamaha drive and top end now pretty good too - bonus!
I'm going out now to put in some laps ,but it's a bit damp for quick times on the RC13R Husqvarna.

But seriously ,yes the Yam did seem to be improved Huh.

codgyoleracer

16th September 2014, 14:49

I'm going out now to put in some laps ,but it's a bit damp for quick times on the RC13R Husqvarna.

But seriously ,yes the Yam did seem to be improved Huh.

Those have to be the Gayest pushers of MM bike seen yet ........

Oscar

16th September 2014, 18:24

Those have to be the Gayest pushers of MM bike seen yet ........

Vale's home town is 5km away.
MM's lucky they didn't set fire to it...

Berries

16th September 2014, 18:41

He has huge potentuall and the proffessionals in the sport know that or he would not be there still or with a new factory contract.
His eyes are too close together.

steveyb

16th September 2014, 23:05

Eugene Laverty to Aspar Honda 2015.

ellipsis

16th September 2014, 23:12

Those have to be the Gayest pushers of MM bike seen yet ........

...ya cant get away from politics and being politic...all's fair in love and war...

roogazza

17th September 2014, 07:52

Those have to be the Gayest pushers of MM bike seen yet ........

Always a source of amusement for me Glen when these little racer guys slip off and struggle to upright them. The bikes are tiny !
I thought with all the hype they'd have the power of five men? <_<

codgyoleracer

17th September 2014, 08:08

Vale's home town is 5km away.
MM's lucky they didn't set fire to it...

Thats True!

BMWST?

17th September 2014, 08:49

The hondas seemed to be struggling with front and rear grip,wonder if the tyres have changed slightly ;).Fair go to VR tho,how many bloody times were we told he is 35?
We need new commentators.

speights_bud

17th September 2014, 10:05

I'm sick of hearing "that's a classic (insert track name) overtaking manoeuvre.

That and 'An absolute masterclass by (insert race winner)'

Grumph

17th September 2014, 10:41

I'm sick of hearing "that's classic (insert track name) passing there. That and 'An absolute masterclass by (insert race winner)'

Well, to be fair, it was a race of two halves....even though they didn't use that particular cliche.

I was a tad surprised though when in his intro, Harris said Rossi had put the ducati on the front row....mouth faster than brain.

speights_bud

17th September 2014, 12:05

Yeah, I meant in general. I don't know if I heard it this time around, I try and switch off. Don't want to turn the commentary off in case I miss something though

BMWST?

17th September 2014, 13:47

Yeah, I meant in general. I don't know if I heard it this time around, I try and switch off. Don't want to turn the commentary off in case I miss something though
Miss something?I find I am muttering"Dovi passed him half a lap ago ya idiot",or similar

pritch

17th September 2014, 14:26

Eugene Laverty to Aspar Honda 2015.

And KTM to MotoGP in 2017.

speights_bud

17th September 2014, 14:56

Miss something?I find I am muttering"Dovi passed him half a lap ago ya idiot",or similar
3 month old daughter sometimes distracts me, at least I can hear if something big happens

jasonu

17th September 2014, 15:21

I'm sick of hearing "that's a classic (insert track name) overtaking manoeuvre.

That and 'An absolute masterclass by (insert race winner)'

Not as bad as the yank commentators continually referring to Indianapolis as 'the worlds most famous race track'.

Autech

17th September 2014, 16:35

I'm sick of hearing "that's a classic (insert track name) overtaking manoeuvre.

That and 'An absolute masterclass by (insert race winner)'

Me too! I'm tired of him getting into a ramble and missing an overtake or two, then being surprised when he spots them there.

Well, to be fair, it was a race of two halves....even though they didn't use that particular cliche.

I was a tad surprised though when in his intro, Harris said Rossi had put the ducati on the front row....mouth faster than brain.

Wondered if I had misheard him, apparently not.

This is a good read on next season:
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/207084/1/2015-motogp-rider-lineup-so-far.html

I got my fingers cross for Melandri to return, though it would be good to see him win a WSBK title now they have the Aprilia working for him.

Looking like next season may be one of the best in a while with the new manufacturers, some fresh (and old talent coming in), some talented riders moving on to better machinery and the Ducati's almost up there with the Honda's and Yamaha's. Can't wait! :2thumbsup

speights_bud

17th September 2014, 18:46

Not as bad as the yank commentators continually referring to Indianapolis as 'the worlds most famous race track'.

Which (as they announced last year) happens to be located in "the greatest country in the world"

Grumph

17th September 2014, 20:04

Which (as they announced last year) happens to be located in "the greatest country in the world"

Amen...or to quote Kocinsky in full flow...."If you ain't American, you ain't shit".....I miss him, he was a shining tribute to the Little Rock school system.

jasonu

18th September 2014, 07:01

Which (as they announced last year) happens to be located in "the greatest country in the world"

Not to mention the country that this year gave the rest of the world the worst TV coverage of a motorcycle race ever.

pritch

18th September 2014, 09:01

The hondas seemed to be struggling with front and rear grip,

Read this and all will become clear.
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/a-new-way-of-riding-a-new-way-of-crashing/

To be fair to the commentators, and Harris and Greene piss me off too; they don't have a 40 inch plus screen. They have a series of lap tops giving them different information. So if Harris is looking to see who is doing the fastest lap and somebody goes down in the corner of another screen he can and does miss it.

Overnight it was reported by one of the Brit journos that Rossi predicted a great future for Bastianini. So I sent him a message saying in that case I hoped someone will tell Harris how to pronounce the name since he's going to be saying it a lot. I'd better dismount that hobby horse about now. :whistle:

Mental Trousers

18th September 2014, 09:35

Overnight it was reported by one of the Brit journos that Rossi predicted a great future for Bastianini. So I sent him a message saying in that case I hoped someone will tell Harris how to pronounce the name since he's going to be saying it a lot. I'd better dismount that hobby horse about now. :whistle:

He'll still find 4 different ways to mispronounce it

Shaun Harris

18th September 2014, 09:38

Me too! I'm tired of him getting into a ramble and missing an overtake or two, then being surprised when he spots them there.

Looking like next season may be one of the best in a while with the new manufacturers, some fresh (and old talent coming in), some talented riders moving on to better machinery and the Ducati's almost up there with the Honda's and Yamaha's. Can't wait! :2thumbsup

Agreed man, the next 2-3 years will be very interesting

Shaun Harris

18th September 2014, 09:40

He'll still find 4 different ways to mispronounce it

But all you wingers will still know who they are talking about, just like you all can read my poor spellin

Reckless

18th September 2014, 10:20

Read this and all will become clear.
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/a-new-way-of-riding-a-new-way-of-crashing/

Great read thanks Pritch :)

You must spread some rep...................

ellipsis

18th September 2014, 10:31

Commentators

...the first tv coverage of a Motorcycle Grand Prix I ever saw was around '66 and the few seconds that was shown on a program that may have been called World Scene, on a sunday arvo was in the old Pathe style delivery. Seeing a couple of black forms with black leathers and cardboard dome helmets off in the distance at Monte Carlo was unbelievable to a young lad...I remember the clipped Brit voice saying, 'that's Giacomo Agostini going round the bend followed closely by Phil Read the Englishman...then it was over...my lovely old aunty who was quick of wit said, 'they're round the bend all right'...those few moments have stuck with me ever since

pritch

18th September 2014, 11:41

But all you wingers will still know who they are talking about, just like you all can read my poor spellin

Your spelling isn't a problem, I can generally see what you mean, and anyway you fit right in on KB.

If spelling is too bad it becomes a distraction, and there was one guy even his KB name seemed to be spelt wrong, reading his stuff was sometimes just too much touble. His spelling, in combination with a solid wall of text and minimal punctuation, could make his writings almost indecipherable. Even if he was making sense otherwise.

Nick Harrris' mispronunciations are also a distraction. (He isn't a relation of yours is he? :-) His job is to describe what's happening for anybody who is watching, not all of whom may be fans. His errors are jarring and take attention away from the racing which is the opposite of what he should be doing.

I'm not saying I could do his job, but presumably he is payed good money to do it so we expect a reasonable job. For what it's worth I still prefer Harris to Greene.

It does seem that rubbishing commentators is an international sport. When the BT team took over the commentaries in Britain this year a lot of the reaction was really vicious and personal.

Now y'all can feel free to check my spelling. :innocent:

speights_bud

18th September 2014, 11:48

From LCR Honda MotoGP Team Facebook Page.

JACK MILLER TO JOIN CWM-LCR HONDA TEAM FOR THE 2015 MOTOGP CAMPAIGN

The CWM-LCR Honda Team is pleased to officially announce that Australian rider, Jack Miller, will compete with them in the 2015 MotoGP World Championship riding the Honda RC213V-RS Open Specification bike.

The 19-year-old racer from Townsville, who is currently leading the Moto3 World Championship, will compete in the MotoGP Open Class thanks to the support of HRC - Honda Racing Corporation, LCR’s historical sponsors and new team partner CWM FX, alongside the more experienced British talent Cal Crutchlow Crutchlow riding the Honda 本田技研工業(株) RC213V Factory Specification bike.

This is the first time since their debut in the MotoGP class in 2006, that Lucio Cecchinello’s squad will field two riders, and this is largely thanks to new sponsor CWMFX.com.

Jack Miller : “I’m very happy to make the leap up to MotoGP next year, especially because I will do so alongside HRC. It's a dream come true; I think that every rider would like to race at the highest level in the World Championship with a Honda. It is certainly a big jump from Moto3 to MotoGP, but I am convinced that we are ready and that, step-by-step, learning every day, we can do a great job. It's a fantastic opportunity and I'm very excited about starting this new stage of my career with HRC - Honda Racing Corporation, whom I wish to thank together with CWM LCR Honda Team. I'm looking forward to working with them! In the meantime, I remain fully focused on this season's Moto3 World Championship. I will have to avoid any distraction in order to fight for the title.”

Lucio Cecchinello (CWM-LCR Team Principal): “Without any doubt, this is a very exciting project and a completely new challenge for us. We do believe that Jack will be a future strong performer in the premier class due to his undeniable talent, motivation and drive. Together with Honda we will do our best to let him familiarise himself, step by step, with the MotoGP class. For sure Jack will need time to learn how to ride a 1000cc machine but there is no rush, and next year will just be a learning season for him in the new Class. Honda has a long term plan with him and we believe that with no pressure Jack will be able to show his talent in MotoGP.”
— with Mben Bari

Reckless

18th September 2014, 12:08

From LCR Honda MotoGP Team Facebook Page.

JACK MILLER TO JOIN CWM-LCR HONDA TEAM FOR THE 2015 MOTOGP CAMPAIGN

Training him up to replace Pedrosa I'd guess :)

Mental Trousers

18th September 2014, 12:47

But all you wingers will still know who they are talking about, just like you all can read my poor spellin

Whingers

I'm surprised I haven't broken more pairs of glasses because of you. Headbutting the desk so much isn't good.

Bender

18th September 2014, 13:27

Honda are, of course, continuing to foster talent (man did they luck out with Marquez) in signing Miller. He will be on an open class Honda which will be much more competitive, being this year's bike but without the zoot gearbox.

Next couple of years are going to be crackers - with the great riders and excellent machinery lined up. When Aprilia get their bike sorted, Ducati's new machine arrives and KTM joins in, we will have unparalleled racing. Can't wait.

Reckless

18th September 2014, 13:59

What a life aye training and havin a blast at the same time :)

BTW never seen Pedro's name in any of these wonder if he trains on dirt??

Wednesday, 17 September 2014
Following his victory at the Gran Premio TIM di San Marino e della Riviera di Rimini on Sunday, Valentino Rossi invited MotoGP™ World Champion Marc Marquez and a host of World Championship stars for a day of riding at his impressive MotorRanch facility.
Rossi and Marquez were joined by the likes of Francesco Bagnaia, Leon Camier, Loris Capirossi, Luca Marini, Andrea Migno, Franco Morbidelli, Miguel Oliveira, Mattia Pasini, Tito Rabat and Bradley Smith for a day of dirt riding.

Just a few kilometres from Misano, the scene of Rossi’s superb victory and the uncharacteristic Marquez crash which saw him end up 15th in the race on Sunday, the riders reconvened at Rossi’s MotorRanch dirt track circuit on the outskirts of his home town Tavullia.

The nine-time World Champion regularly rides and trains at the purpose built facility which is also a training ground for the young riders of the VR46 Academy. Marquez is a keen motocross rider in his spare time and he enjoyed the day riding a Honda CRF 450, alongside Rossi and their World Championship colleagues.

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Erelyes

18th September 2014, 16:02

But all you wingers will still know who they are talking about, just like you all can read my poor spellin

More of a lock forward myself m8

Autech

19th September 2014, 08:15

What a life aye training and havin a blast at the same time :)

BTW never seen Pedro's name in any of these wonder if he trains on dirt??

Pedrosa? He put a picture up recently on his facebook of himself doing a bit of dirt riding, so yeah I think so, perhaps he never made the cool boys club.

Linkage: http://image1.redbull.com/rbcom/010/2014-01-23/1331629547877_2/0010/1/1500/1000/2/marc-m%C3%A1rquez-watches-dani-pedrosa-in-trials-action.jpg

Any predictions for the victory in Aragon?

steveyb

19th September 2014, 09:22

http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/208812/1/jeremy-mcwilliams-qa.html

Interesting comments regarding Moto2 laptimes compared to SBK.

Interesting comments regarding WIL Sport support of young riders. I am not sure how I am feeling about what was said, but one cannot deny that the work that Phil and WIL Sport have done over the past 4-5 years has made a huge difference to the aspirations of several young riders.

Reckless

19th September 2014, 09:30

Any predictions for the victory in Aragon?

Best bike in the world but like to see the Honda's go like crap to make the championship more interesting.
Be good to see how MM can handle a little dent in his confidence not that I think it will be a problem but be nice to see Rossi back it up the yammy seems to be going better.

Miller might be in trouble of this keeps up

Estrella Galicia Misano race review
Wednesday, 17 September 2014
Alex Rins and Alex Marquez repeated their podium double from Silverstone at Misano, in another great race for the two Estrella Galicia 0,0 riders.
In the round 13 contest Rins and Marquez took the victory and runner-up spot, respectively, for the second consecutive Grand Prix, reducing the gap to Moto3™ standings leader, Jack Miller, in the process. After another strong display at Misano, Marquez trails Miller by nine points and Rins is 20 off the top with five races remaining and 125 points at stake.

The race started with Miller pushing hard at the front and both Honda equipped Estrella Galicia 0,0 riders attentive to his attempts at escaping. Although Marquez got off the line the best and was up into third, Rins quickly took the lead of the second group from fourth and went after Miller. As he broke away, he brought with him his teammate and Miguel Oliveira, who later crashed out of the race.

After overtaking Miller, Rins established a gap of just over a second, but Marquez – on his own in second – gradually reeled in his teammate and caught him with eight laps to go. Patient behind Rins, Marquez got past him with two laps remaining. Rins returned the favour on the final lap to win by 0.042s.

Rins stated, “It was a very nice race, although it dragged on a bit for me because, from the beginning, I spent a long time riding by myself at the front. Initially I could open a small gap over my teammate Alex (Marquez), but on the last three laps he managed to catch me. Eventually I was able to think about the right strategy, just how it happened to me last year, and in the end it went well. I was able to take the win, so I'm very happy.”

Marquez added, “It was a pretty tough weekend for us, with four crashes – one of which was a heavy one in the Warm Up. So in the end second place is very important for us. We tried our best and managed to cut the gap to the series leader for the third race in succession, so we should be happy and continue in this way. Now comes a home race and hopefully the circuit is full, so that the fans can push us at every turn. At Motorland, where we have done three tests, we will try to be competitive from day one.”

I'm wondering why at least Marquez isn't going straight to MotoGP age maybe? Thought the Brother thing might be a incentive for a sponsor to get onboard and get extra coverage for his dollar. Rins is riding well to. Not so sure if it was me I'd like to have a go at each championship on the way through tho?

Shaun Harris

19th September 2014, 09:46

Your spelling isn't a problem, I can generally see what you mean, and anyway you fit right in on KB.

If spelling is too bad it becomes a distraction, and there was one guy even his KB name seemed to be spelt wrong, reading his stuff was sometimes just too much touble. His spelling, in combination with a solid wall of text and minimal punctuation, could make his writings almost indecipherable. Even if he was making sense otherwise.

Nick Harrris' mispronunciations are also a distraction. (He isn't a relation of yours is he? :-) His job is to describe what's happening for anybody who is watching, not all of whom may be fans. His errors are jarring and take attention away from the racing which is the opposite of what he should be doing.

I'm not saying I could do his job, but presumably he is payed good money to do it so we expect a reasonable job. For what it's worth I still prefer Harris to Greene.

It does seem that rubbishing commentators is an international sport. When the BT team took over the commentaries in Britain this year a lot of the reaction was really vicious and personal.

Now y'all can feel free to check my spelling. :innocent:

I know mate, but could not let a chance go by at a bit of shit sturing

Shaun Harris

19th September 2014, 09:47

More of a lock forward myself m8

good on ya

Autech

19th September 2014, 11:08

Best bike in the world but like to see the Honda's go like crap to make the championship more interesting.
Be good to see how MM can handle a little dent in his confidence not that I think it will be a problem but be nice to see Rossi back it up the yammy seems to be going better.

From memory last year all three boys went well (wasn't Aragon where Marquez disconnected Dani's TC?) with Rossi still off the pace. With Rossi now on pace I think (HOPE!) we may end up with all four of them dicing it out for the win.:first:

So get your prayer beads out chaps.

merv

20th September 2014, 10:39

Plenty of good pics of your hero roogazza over here at Soup http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2014/motogp/sanmarino/adriatic/

Reckless

20th September 2014, 11:07

Plenty of good pics of your hero roogazza over here at Soup http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2014/motogp/sanmarino/adriatic/

Good set of pics and the comments are a good tale of the tape :) cheers

roogazza

20th September 2014, 11:15

Plenty of good pics of your hero roogazza over here at Soup http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2014/motogp/sanmarino/adriatic/
And a good day to sit at the compuda too Merv. Blowing its tits off here in the Horowhenua. Bit of rain every now and then.
Good thing I voted yesterday.:laugh:

pritch

20th September 2014, 13:01

Reckless

20th September 2014, 13:08

Not MotoGP but then the weather is crap for riding.

For those with mobile devices, the FIM has an app which will provide full coverage of the LeMans 24 hour race this weekend. It can also be accessed on Google play, but not on my prepaid phone thanks.

As long as your in your wifi your prepay should not be using data mate. I've gone down from a $100 a month fixed plan to a $19 prepay and still doing ok.

pritch

20th September 2014, 14:51

As long as your in your wifi your prepay should not be using data mate. I've gone down from a $100 a month fixed plan to a $19 prepay and still doing ok.

True. I normally only connect the phone to my own wi fi but if I watch the 24hr, which hasn't started yet, I'll use the iPad because the picture is bigger and I can see that without going cross eyed. :wacko:

On second thoughts my network seems to have repaired itself somewhat so I should be able to watch it via the Apple TV. Better yet.

pritch

20th September 2014, 16:33

I think streaming starts at 8.30PM tonight our time. By then we'll likely need a break from the election coverage.

Reckless

23rd September 2014, 11:38

Got my answer in an article about MM on the MotoGP site

For Rossi, his sensational win in front of an ecstatic Misano crowd came more than 18 years after his first ever GP victory in the 125cc class at Brno in 1996, making him the rider with the longest winning career of all-time in Grand Prix racing - taking this record from his friend Loris Capirossi.

pritch

23rd September 2014, 12:01

As the world sets sail for Aragon - so to speak...

Just now Nick Harris popped up on my Twitter timeline. Guess what? :whistle:
And yes I did try to be polite. Well, as polite as you can be when limited to 140 characters.

Oh, and he has a media company and included a link in his tweet.
http://www.nick-harris.co.uk

roogazza

23rd September 2014, 14:18

pritch

23rd September 2014, 16:06

were you gentle with his ego ? :lol:

I did try, but the limit of 140 characters does not permit unlimited eloquence.

There's actually some interesting stuff on that website. The description of his IoM lap as a sidecar passenger is a good read.

Update: I don't know what Nick Harris thinks, but an Italian guy has "favourited" my tweet.

roogazza

24th September 2014, 06:36

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/208983/1/ducati-confirms-gp142-debut.html

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/208966/1/marquez-my-favourite-track.html

http://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/208952/1/how-big-is-too-big-for-motogp.html

Hey, our gang has a reunion coming up and as always happens the old photos start appearing, Thought you guys might appreciate this one.
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Talledaga 71 250 race. Carruthers,Molloy,Raybourne.

GD66

24th September 2014, 23:26

roogazza

25th September 2014, 06:54

Nice one Gaz, I have a little colour one of the same victory lane but my imageshack has shat itself, I might whack 'em up on the Long Lunch fb page...cheers GD

PS I believe Monsieur Molloy is once again going for a gallop in the Legend Laps at the Aussie titles @ Lakeside this weekend.

Hi there Glen, you might be just the man to identify this lot at Puke.
Very early shot with Eric Bone far left on an Avenger Kawa.
Maybe an Auckland club meet, early 70s' 410 prod ???
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pritch

25th September 2014, 09:42

Aragon courtesy of Rins and Repsol, it's in Spanish with English subtitles. It's a bugger trying to read and see where he's going at the same time so I may have to watch it again. :whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFTsvmsE8Ok&feature=youtu.be

Trudes

25th September 2014, 17:43

Yahhh! Pleased to hear Nicky will be back. :wings:

pritch

25th September 2014, 23:56

Reported that Pete Benson has confirmed he will not be joining Redding, he will remain with Rabat.

roogazza

26th September 2014, 08:43

Yahhh! Pleased to hear Nicky will be back. :wings:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Sep/140925a.htm
His career must be on runnout but he still seems keen.

steveyb

26th September 2014, 16:06

Really looking forward to seeing how Barbera goes on the Ducati.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/209018/1/pic-avintia-ducati-unveiled-at-aragon.html

Hector has said he reckons he was 1.5s a lap faster on it (GP14 bike with Open Class software) than on the Avintia Kawasaki at Mugello test.

steveyb

26th September 2014, 19:10

Fuck me!!! 10 mins into it and Millar nearly kills Rins in T1!! Fuck that was close.
Fenati wasn't best pleased either.

They are all shooting off T1.

Brian d marge

27th September 2014, 00:27

the new Ducati
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Stephen

roogazza

27th September 2014, 09:01

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Sep/140926d.htm

Hector Barbecued !!! See what I did there ??
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BMWST?

27th September 2014, 22:42

on now 14 or 69 depending on your tv flavour!

Autech

28th September 2014, 12:18

Anyone watch the GP qualifying? Stayed up to watch it and ended up shouting at the TV while wank features is rambling on about how no one was going to get near Marquez's time, while on TV Pedrosa and Mad Joe both were flashing up quicker sector times. DICK HEAD! He of course ended up going one better and reclaiming pole, but my god he's an idiot.

Commentary rant over.

On that time by Marquez, jesus that smashed last years pole record! Cracking lap.

roogazza

28th September 2014, 12:46

Anyone watch the GP qualifying? Stayed up to watch it and ended up shouting at the TV while wank features is rambling on about how no one was going to get near Marquez's time, while on TV Pedrosa and Mad Joe both were flashing up quicker sector times. DICK HEAD! He of course ended up going one better and reclaiming pole, but my god he's an idiot.

Commentary rant over.

I could quite happily listen to GP engine sounds of all three classes in preference.
Times flashing up, can be read faster than listening to prattle/history lessons.
just too much chatter for me.

ps been into the German box at GP,found that hard to follow.:rolleyes:

pritch

28th September 2014, 15:26

DICK HEAD!

That's the second time today I've seen that used. Someone, Crutchlow(?), posted a video clip on Twitter in which Jack miller was having a rant about dengerous dickheads. I was watching the QP coverage to see what happened but although we did get to see part of an incident, the replay clip commences with Miller badly out of shape then angrily gesticulating. Alas, the coverage didn't go back far enough to see what caused it all.

As for Harris, I will withhold judgement until I can hear his Moto3 coverage.

I won't be able to watch MotoGP first thing, I had a phone call yesterday to say that my vinyl double album "Gary Clark Jr Live" has arrived. Priorities. :whistle:

Maybe after lunch?

BMWST?

28th September 2014, 16:35

That's the second time today I've seen that used. Someone, Crutchlow(?), posted a video clip on Twitter in which Jack miller was having a rant about dengerous dickheads. I was watching the QP coverage to see what happened but although we did get to see part of an incident, the replay clip commences with Miller badly out of shape then angrily gesticulating. Alas, the coverage didn't go back far enough to see what caused it all.

As for Harris, I will withhold judgement until I can hear his Moto3 coverage.

I won't be able to watch first thing, I had a phone call yesterday to say that my vinyl double album "Gary Clark Jr Live" has arrived. Priorities. :whistle:

Maybe after lunch?

i didnt quite see the incident either but it happened when a whole freight train was following miller,he was overtaken and undertaken at the same instant,and in motogp near theend Barbera slowed up to pullin to the pits and A esparaago(sp) was right behind him

steveyb

28th September 2014, 18:43

i didnt quite see the incident either but it happened when a whole freight train was following miller,he was overtaken and undertaken at the same instant,and in motogp near theend Barbera slowed up to pullin to the pits and A esparaago(sp) was right behind him

Well, after seeing how close Miller came to T-boning Rins right in the middle of the bike in FP1 (he made no attempt to slow down, around 10 mins in) and how the other riders have to take evasive action all the time to avoid his fucking stupid ass when he decides to dart off to the side and slow down right when other riders are behind him trying their best to get a good laptime, he needs to pull his monkey head in and just get on with riding the bike. Those other riders are entitled to follow who they like. Don't know how it slows him down, having riders behind him. He can check who it is, and who is going to try and pass and who is just getting a tow.
I think he is now really feeling the pressure that he will not even make the top 3 in the champs and he is handing it like a gallah.

Also think that Aleix did the wrong thing in that instance. I think that Barbera was trying his best to give him a good tow and that he just didn't move to the side of Barbera enough to allow that he would move aside. Still, why Barbera just dived off like that, who knows? I think there is a lot of histrionics from riders towards others when they know their laptime is not good enough.