MotoGP 2014

[codgyoleracer]

He's on a factory satellite. So seamless boxed full power motor, but Showa suspension and Nissin brakes...which I bet sluts him off no fucken end.

Reading Stoners book, all things are most definatley not equal when it comes to bike and tyre spec and service

[k14]

My take is that AE is so quick that I wonder if he suddenly finds his bike doesn't go quite so well, and that the satellite Yamaha bikes are faster?
Or maybe it's just that I'm getting cynical in my old age.
I'd say that until he starts beating rossi/lorenzo it will be ok. I think we could see some interesting closing stages of races if the open yamaha is still running at full hp and the factory bikes are having to lean out a bit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. Espagaro has the English built frame (FTR?).

.

Think he's got pretty much an M1 engine and frame and swingarm? Think it was said on NZmoto on FB.

[roogazza]

He's on a factory satellite. So seamless boxed full power motor, but Showa suspension and Nissin brakes...which I bet sluts him off no fucken end.
Oh ok Cheers D, what about Bradle then,cos didn't Simoncelli run a works bike in that same team ? (Rip)
293382

[pritch]

Oh ok Cheers D, what about Bradle then,cos didn't Simoncelli run a works bike in that same team ? (Rip)

Special arrangement. Honda will make exceptions: Dovizioso & Simoncelli f'rinstance. Yamaha have two factory bikes, full stop.

[BMWST?]

Special arrangement. Honda will make exceptions: Dovizioso & Simoncelli f'rinstance. Yamaha have two factory bikes, full stop.

I think Bradl has a "factory satellite" bike not sure he has the full noise Ohlins and brembo package

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think Bradl has a "factory satellite" bike not sure he has the full noise Ohlins and brembo package

Pretty sure he has mate. Only Bautista having to run Nissin and Showa I think. I believe he's testing it for the customer version ?

[BMWST?]

Pretty sure he has mate. Only Bautista having to run Nissin and Showa I think. I believe he's testing it for the customer version ?

Didn't Bradl have two three really good results last year because of a change of brakes or something?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Didn't Bradl have two three really good results last year because of a change of brakes or something?

Hard to know if it was that or simply learning how to ride one of the sick fucking things eh!

[pritch]

Pretty sure he has mate. Only Bautista having to run Nissin and Showa I think. I believe he's testing it for the customer version ?

Redding says he has Nissin/Showa, don't know about the others.

[pritch]

Think he's got pretty much an M1 engine and frame and swingarm? Think it was said on NZmoto on FB.

Yeah, I saw another report this morning that was compleyely different to the first one. Maybe Motomatters will give us the answer.

[Dave-]

Oh yeah, I just remembered.

There is an article in the latest Race Engine Technology magazine (fuck that's a solid mag) anyway it reads as if honda gave the RCV1000R 23 Litres because that's all they feel it needed.

[Shaun Harris]

Think he's got pretty much an M1 engine and frame and swingarm? Think it was said on NZmoto on FB.







correct, with Factory supplied Ohlin's

[carbonhed]

Crutchlow on Aleix E

“The bike he's got there [FTR-M1] is my bike from last year with more fuel and a soft tyre. All credit to Aleix, he's riding well, If you put him on the bike Pol's [Espargaro] on [Monster Yamaha Tech 3] he'd be just as fast."

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crutchlow on Aleix E

“The bike he's got there [FTR-M1] is my bike from last year with more fuel and a soft tyre. All credit to Aleix, he's riding well, If you put him on the bike Pol's [Espargaro] on [Monster Yamaha Tech 3] he'd be just as fast."

Bring on the racing!!!!!!!!!!

[roogazza]

Honda's Marquez Remains Fastest At Sepang MotoGP Test. Rossi Second-Fastest
by staff
Thursday, February 06, 2014
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda 1:59.533
2 Valentino Rossi Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 1:59.727
3 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 1:59.866
4 Aleix Espargaro NGM Mobile Forward Racingr Yamaha 1:59.998
5 Stefan Bradl LCR Honda Honda 2:00.112
6 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda 2:00.223
7 Andrea Iannone Energy T.I. Pramac Racing Ducati 2:00.370
8 Pol Esparago Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 2:00.655
9 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati 2:00.725
10 Alvaro Bautista Go&Fun Honda Gresini Honda 2:00.788
11 Bradley Smith Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 2:00.896
12 Cal Crutchlow Ducati Team Ducati 2:01.057
13 Nicky Hayden Drive M7 Aspar Honda 2:01.514
14 Colin Edwards NNGM Mobile Forward Racing YAMAHA 2:01.731
15 Michele Pirro Ignite Pramac Racing Ducati 2:01.782
16 Hiroshi Aoyama Drive M7 Aspar Honda 2:02.383
17 Randy De Puniet Suzuki Suzuki 2:02.486
18 Yonny Hernandez Pramac Ducati 2:02.556
19 Kosuke Akiyoshi Honda Team Honda 2:02.619
20 Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha Factory Test Yamaha 2:02.

[Drew]

Dovi three spots higher than Cal.

An early indicator that the mongrel in Cal, wasn't enough?

[roogazza]

Dovi three spots higher than Cal.

An early indicator that the mongrel in Cal, wasn't enough?

Mmmmm yeah, I've always thought Andrea ahead of him, despite the hype Cal puts out there.
He'll be on his face is he tries that stuff on the Ducati ???
(from my armchair)

[BMWST?]

Hmmm 5 thru 11 might give us some good racing this year,i think the actual personell will be different,i see nicky is getting faster too

[ecko_nzed]

Dovi three spots higher than Cal.

An early indicator that the mongrel in Cal, wasn't enough?

I dunno, crazy Joe is ahead of Dovi and I've always considered him to be a bit of a mongrel like Cal. Maybe more time on the bike is all that is required?

[Drew]

I dunno, crazy Joe is ahead of Dovi and I've always considered him to be a bit of a mongrel like Cal. Maybe more time on the bike is all that is required?

At these guys level, three days would be enough to feel the limits I expect.

More time on the bike would be more set up than rider development.

[Shaun Harris]

At these guys level, three days would be enough to feel the limits I expect.

More time on the bike would be more set up than rider development.






CC will rock mate. It will depend on if he or Dovi end up getting classified as the new class hot rod bike? I think Ducati will make one of them full factory and the other the ginny pig for the future, and based on CC history of being prepared to crash, he would be my choice as the development rider of the 2.

[pritch]

I dunno, crazy Joe is ahead of Dovi and I've always considered him to be a bit of a mongrel like Cal. Maybe more time on the bike is all that is required?

Reportedly the fast times were set earlyish morning before the track got hot and times got slower. Some of the riders were testing something early which precluded an especially fast time. The journos who attend these things warn repeatedly that it is testing, and the times don't necessarily mean much. We do get a rough idea though, we could safely assume that MM, AE and VR are happy, and that Jorge and Edwards are not.

Bring on the next test. Regardless of the journos' warnings, it is still interesting.

[Shaun Harris]

Pedrosa and one other rider having break problems in the test session so far, how can this possibly happen with HRC staff and Brembo product?

[BMWST?]

Pedrosa and one other rider having break problems in the test session so far, how can this possibly happen with HRC staff and Brembo product?

Cos they at the envelope

[roogazza]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/200104/1/dalligna-talks-ducati-factoryopen-dilemma.html

Reading that, Dovi and Iannone at this stage on Factory bikes and Crutchlow,Hernandez in the Open Class ?

[Shaun Harris]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/200104/1/dalligna-talks-ducati-factoryopen-dilemma.html

Reading that, Dovi and Iannone at this stage on Factory bikes and Crutchlow,Hernandez in the Open Class ?




Pending the wording of Dovi and Carls contract, I would guess that Carl would be the easier of the 2 to swap classes, carl has been hanging out for the salary he now earns, and I think he will do what ever to be the best for the team, and I feel he would be the better develplment rider of the 2 also based on what I have already said about being prepared to crash trying hard.

[roogazza]

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/10/analyzing_braking_stability_why_is_honda.html

[Shaun Harris]

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/10/analyzing_braking_stability_why_is_honda.html







Chassis pitch simple.

No clutch to down shift means quicker gear changes as well as less load being transfered onto the front wheel whilst the clutch is pulled in, which in turn keeps the rear on the ground better making the bike more stable.

It is not rocket science, just simple basic logic

[Dave-]

Chassis pitch simple.

No clutch to down shift means quicker gear changes as well as less load being transfered onto the front wheel whilst the clutch is pulled in, which in turn keeps the rear on the ground better making the bike more stable.

It is not rocket science, just simple basic logic

Ha! next you'll be telling us it's easy to win the championship, all you have to do is gather more points than everybody else.

[Shaun Harris]

Ha! next you'll be telling us it's easy to win the championship, all you have to do is gather more points than everybody else.







Like ya logic man

[ecko_nzed]

Ha! next you'll be telling us it's easy to win the championship, all you have to do is ride a Honda and be Marc Marquez.

Fixed it for ya

[BMWST?]

Pending the wording of Dovi and Carls contract, I would guess that Carl would be the easier of the 2 to swap classes, carl has been hanging out for the salary he now earns, and I think he will do what ever to be the best for the team, and I feel he would be the better develplment rider of the 2 also based on what I have already said about being prepared to crash trying hard.

not much development going on when rider is hurt or new parts destroyed,dovi would be better for the development, he seems very methodical,and he is as fast or faster than cal

[roogazza]

http://www.motomatters.com/results/2014/02/12/2014_moto2_valencia_test_day_2_final_rab.html

[DidJit]

Reckon Moto2 and Moto3 are going to serve up some titanic championship battles this season.

In MotoGP, Mat Oxley reckons it’s open season on the factories (http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/open-season-on-the-factories/)...

[denill]

In MotoGP, Mat Oxley reckons it’s open season on the factories (http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/open-season-on-the-factories/)...

As they say, "Nothing stays the same", and I can't help thinking the Open Class is going to make for some bloody good racing, this year and even more so into the future. :yes: :yes:

[Shaun Harris]

As they say, "Nothing stays the same", and I can't help thinking the Open Class is going to make for some bloody good racing, this year and even more so into the future. :yes: :yes:



I agree man, it sure is going to change things big time. Also reading again that Honda say they will pull out due to the electronics issue's haha Fuk off then I say

[denill]

Also reading again that Honda say they will pull out due to the electronics issue's

Yep, it would be a good bet that Honda would pull out. (They have done it before.) That would even the field, but MM would still be the top rider, it would just mean he would have to battle with more people.

Yeah, not a bad thing for us in the armchairs, or leaning on the fence.

[merv]

I like Nakamoto's comment about how the spec hardware is bigger, heavier and more expensive than what Honda used to use. Also all this crap about about close racing coming out of this more like the 'old days' is all rose coloured specs. Like we all remember how bunched the field were when Rainey was winning or Doohan, yeah Tui moment. The top two or three raced well ahead of the field then and always will and the best riders do always earn the best bikes and so the cycle goes.

[Reckless]

Jeepers look at the angle to the curb! Now thats impressive :Punk:


293594

[Crasherfromwayback]

Jeepers look at the angle to the curb! Now thats impressive :Punk:


293594

Speedway at 100mph on huge sticky slicks.

[BMWST?]

Speedway at 100mph on huge sticky slicks.

While nearly dragging your elbow

[Reckless]

Speedway at 100mph on huge sticky slicks.

Look at the body position crasher.
Half a cheek off, shoulder in, spine parallel with the bike, not hangin off like a monkey, looks like eyes looking up the track?
It just looks so bloody neat and tidy :shit:

I can see Nakamoto's point he didn't seem to mind the challenge of less fuel or engines, said it was good for the future for bike development. Face it all sport bikes in the future will have traction control, ABS, anti wheelie, fancy clutches, ride by wire, 5 modes on the computer, use less fuel and last longer etc. There's a lot of riders lookin for exactly that when they buy a CBR1000RR!! This is the arena to develop that for feeding further down the chain. I get his point.


Secondly I can understand why Ducati would go Open. I didn't realise you couldn't even change the mounting of the engine in the chassis under the factory rules. To restricting for what they need to explore.

Open or Factory mmm?? I'm not sure but giving guys double the engines, more fuel and sticky tyres, doesn't seem that fair.

Open or Factory wadya reckon???

[merv]

For Honda, Factory is fine as its machine and top rider are ahead of the game.

For Ducati maybe having a few more in the Open class will help them speed up coming from behind with its development because what they've done so far isn't enough.

Just because Aleix has done well so far in testing there is no guarantee come race face time he will be able to keep up with the 'men' for the race duration. Only time will tell.

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=Reckless;1130677960]

I can see Nakamoto's point he didn't seem to mind the challenge of less fuel or engines, said it was good for the future for bike development. Face it all sport bikes in the future will have traction control, ABS, anti wheelie, fancy clutches, ride by wire, 5 modes on the computer, use less fuel and last longer etc. There's a lot of riders lookin for exactly that when they buy a CBR1000RR!! This is the arena to develop that for feeding further down the chain. I get his point.








all above mentioned can be developed at there test tracks and on there Dyno'ssssssssss man, it is not required to be tested in the Motogp scene, it is just to Honda's advantage to keep the electronics. The japanese can be simmillar to the Italians in mind set ie, once they make up there mind about some thing, nothing will change it. HURICURRI springs to mind

[roogazza]

Quote Reckless,
Secondly I can understand why Ducati would go Open. I didn't realise you couldn't even change the mounting of the engine in the chassis under the factory rules. To restricting for what they need to explore.
Open or Factory mmm?? I'm not sure but giving guys double the engines, more fuel and sticky tyres, doesn't seem that fair.
Open or Factory wadya reckon???QUOTE.

I think we expect too much from Ducati ? Lets face it they pop up in 2007 with a jump on the opposition in 800cc form, hire the freaky introverted Australian who could ride it and boom !
Who really expected them to rule at the front for long ?
Open has more engines and more fuel, I hope they distinguish that.:corn:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Look at the body position crasher.
Half a cheek off, shoulder in, spine parallel with the bike, not hangin off like a monkey, looks like eyes looking up the track?
It just looks so bloody neat and tidy :shit:



He's def a freak of nature!

[pritch]

[QUOTE=roogazza;1130678050]
Open has more engines and more fuel, ]

And unlimited testing, and softer tyres.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/open-season-on-the-factories/

[Crasherfromwayback]

While nearly dragging your elbow

That's so last year!

293634

[tail_end_charlie]

That's so last year!

293634

And isn't that pic from 2012???

No complaints though, fuckin' awesome pic!

[Crasherfromwayback]

And isn't that pic from 2012???

No complaints though, fuckin' awesome pic!

Dunno. Was just using it as an example of how sick the fuckers are. Really REALLY looking forward to this season getting uner way!

[DidJit]

And isn't that pic from 2012??? ...

And look who (http://www.ducati.org/forums/attachments/ducati-discussion/35968d1282866725-cool-motogp-photo-stoner-elbow-grounded.jpg) was doing that sort of carry on way back in 2009...


... Really REALLY looking forward to this season getting under way!

Aye!

[Crasherfromwayback]

And look who (http://www.ducati.org/forums/attachments/ducati-discussion/35968d1282866725-cool-motogp-photo-stoner-elbow-grounded.jpg) was doing that sort of carry on way back in 2009...



!

Wouldn't know mate. Never paid any attention to the guy! :wacko:

[tail_end_charlie]

And look who (http://www.ducati.org/forums/attachments/ducati-discussion/35968d1282866725-cool-motogp-photo-stoner-elbow-grounded.jpg) was doing that sort of carry on way back in 2009...

293635

Yeah, but Colin has him beat by a year! Plus he's waving to the crowd with his foot! Evidently the 'elbow down' trend caught on more than the 'wave to the crowd with your foot'.

[Shaun Harris]

He's def a freak of nature!




freaks for me since starting to watch the big boys are

Spencer
Lawson
Doohan
Rossi
Stoner
Mar Kez or how ever its spelt

lots a bloody good ones as well, but 6 have really stood out.

Lorenzo showed a freak nature towards the end of last year, will be interesting to see if it continues

[Crasherfromwayback]

freaks for me since starting to watch the big boys are

Spencer
Lawson
Doohan
Rossi
Stoner
Mar Kez or how ever its spelt

lots a bloody good ones as well, but 6 have really stood out.

Lorenzo showed a freak nature towards the end of last year, will be interesting to see if it continues

Agree with that list but would add Rainey and Schwantz and def Lorenzo.

[Shaun Harris]

Agree with that list but would add Rainey and Schwantz and def Lorenzo.




Agreed, some things up with us agreeing pete

[Crasherfromwayback]

Agreed, some things up with us agreeing pete

Lol. Never ever had a prob agreeing with anyone if I actually do!

[husaberg]

I would have added in Schwantz and Rainey.

Biggest ever waste of Huge natural talent list
Kokinski
Gobert
Abe
Mamola
Marcellino Lucchi

[Shaun Harris]

I would have added in Schwantz and Rainey.

Biggest ever waste of Huge natural talent list
Kokinski
Gobert
Abe
Mamola
Marcellino Lucchi





I understand Gobert being on there man with his drug issue's , but where did the others go wrong?

[husaberg]

I understand Gobert being on there man with his drug issue's , but where did the others go wrong?
Gobert had many issues but super talented........
Abe god knows Kenny?? he had huge talent and fizzled out...his old man was still a Jap pro speedway rider probably went back there for more money.
Kokinski OCD SMS and Narasist or just bloody short attention span not sure but he was sacked so often, still won 250GP title and WSB but could have done so much more.
Mamola not sure..... lack of drive and a overactive sense of humour?
Marcellino Lucchi i think lack of breaks,, was Aprillia test rider and dustman wild card always at the itailian GP for year career went about 24 years.
could out-qualify biaigi on the same bike when biagi was at his peak, and he was wrong side of 40 and used to knock off work to test for Aprilia (Dustman)

[Shaun Harris]

Gobert had many issues but super talented........
Abe god knows Kenny?? he had huge talent and fizzled out...his old man was still a Jap pro speedway rider probably went back there for more money.
Kokinski OCD SMS and Narasist or just bloody short attention span not sure but he was sacked so often, still won 250GP title and WSB but could have done so much more.
Mamola not sure..... lack of drive and a overactive sense of humour?
Marcellino Lucchi i think lack of breaks,, was Aprillia test rider and dustman wild card always at the itailian GP for year career went about 24 years.
could out-qualify biaigi on the same bike when biagi was at his peak, and he was wrong side of 40 and used to knock off work to test for Aprilia (Dustman)




Fair enough

[BMWST?]

elbows down goes back way further back than that.One of the Sarron brothers used to drag his elbow

[Crasherfromwayback]

I would have added in Schwantz and Rainey.

Biggest ever waste of Huge natural talent list
Kokinski
Gobert
Abe
Mamola
Marcellino Lucchi

Only my take on these cats of course...

Kosinski: Not at all a waste of natural talent. Just not handled in the way he perhaps should've been.

Gobert: A total waste of natural talent but who fucking cares as he was a total asshole from a very early age.

Abe: I very nearly wet my pants when he came on the scene at Suzuka in 96 (was it?) on his Mr Donut Honda NSR500 on Dunlops! I thought he'd be THE first Jappa to go on to win the 500cc title. But...he...like all of the Japanese 500cc racers before him...failed to kick on. Aweome to watch when he was on...but it didn't happen nearly often enough. RIP Abe.

Mamola: Awesome skills...no doubt about it. But was he too busy trying to win the crowds over to actually win titles?

Marcellino Lucchie: I know nothing of him. No comment.

[GD66]

elbows down goes back way further back than that.One of the Sarron brothers used to drag his elbow




It was Christian Sarron's team-mate Jean-Philippe Ruggia.

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Feb/140214a.htm>Colin Edwards' "You're only as good as your programmer" </A>

The rest is a pretty good read.

[roogazza]

Kosinski: Not at all a waste of natural talent. Just not handled in the way he perhaps should've been.

Gobert: A total waste of natural talent but who fucking cares as he was a total asshole from a very early age.

Abe: I very nearly wet my pants when he came on the scene at Suzuka in 96 (was it?) on his Mr Donut Honda NSR500 on Dunlops! I thought he'd be THE first Jappa to go on to win the 500cc title. But...he...like all of the Japanese 500cc racers before him...failed to kick on. Aweome to watch when he was on...but it didn't happen nearly often enough. RIP Abe.

Mamola: Awesome skills...no doubt about it. But was he too busy trying to win the crowds over to actually win titles?

Yeah bud, Abe was a bit of a pop star too wasn't he ? Had that freaky sort of Doohan sitting style,was good at 'home'.
Mamola,first saw him here as a young fella,maybe 15? in the Marlboro Series.
2nd a few times but just didn't get the stars to align for him to make No, 1.

It was Christian Sarron's team-mate Jean-Philippe Ruggia.
That's the man Glen, on 250s.

[Oscar]

Abe: I very nearly wet my pants when he came on the scene at Suzuka in 96 (was it?) on his Mr Donut Honda NSR500 on Dunlops! I thought he'd be THE first Jappa to go on to win the 500cc title. But...he...like all of the Japanese 500cc racers before him...failed to kick on. Aweome to watch when he was on...but it didn't happen nearly often enough. RIP Abe.



I met him.
Really quiet gentle guy.
Received a broken collar bone crashing a scooter on a suburban street, dies in hospital...medical misadventure.

Tragic.

[Shaun Harris]

I met him.
Really quiet gentle guy.
Received a broken collar bone crashing a scooter on a suburban street, dies in hospital...medical misadventure.

Tragic.






have gotten drunk with Abe many a time in Japan, one of his good mates was a good mate of mine

[Crasherfromwayback]

I met him.
Really quiet gentle guy.
Received a broken collar bone crashing a scooter on a suburban street, dies in hospital...medical misadventure.

Tragic.

Yeah everything I've ever read about him says the same thing about the guy! Such a crying shame eh! And I didn't know it was medical misadventure mate!!! Fuck...knew about the street crash...but thought that was what killed the poor bugger. What a waste/fuckup.

[husaberg]

Never knew he died........ will have to google what year.
Someone (i think Pete mentioned seeing him riding in 96) i think that was the year he won the Japo GP
The race when he burst onto the seen was a year or two earlier also at Japan, i think, he crashed.
But hell no one was hanging it out further or for longer.
When he got into the Rainey/Kenny system he seemed much more restrained and his hair was cropped etc... maybe he was over managed.
Maybe the day to day grind away from home was too much. but shit he had talent............
I will see if i can find something on his dad he was sill racing and winning big $$$ when Abe was.

Google turns up this

In 1994, while racing in his home championship, Abe had a chance to race at the 1994 Japanese Grand Prix as a "wild card". He shocked the field by challenging for the win until three laps from the finish before falling off.[4] Abe's performance impressed Kenny Roberts's Yamaha team, and was offered two more rides that year which yielded two 6th places and earned him a full-time Grand Prix ride for the 1995 season.[3] This performance also so impressed a 14 year old Valentino Rossi, that he took on the nickname "Rossifumi" and used it in his early career in deference to such a committed and spectacular racer.

Abe burst out into grand prix competition with an astonishing performance as a wild-card rider on a Honda NSR 500 during the 1994 Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka. He fought for the lead throughout with Mick Doohan and Kevin Schwantz, only to crash three laps before the chequered flag, but had done enough to earn a full time ride with Kenny Roberts' factory Yamaha team for the following season.

Death

On October 7, 2007 while riding a 500 cc Yamaha T-Max scooter in Kawasaki, Kanagawa, Abe was involved in a traffic accident with a truck, which made an illegal U-turn in front of him, at 6:20pm local time. He was pronounced dead two and a half hours later at 8:50pm at the hospital where he was taken for treatment.[1][6]

[Oscar]

Mitsuo Abe.

http://www.gpone.com/images/ARCHIVIO/2011/foto/MOTOGP/15_GP_MOTEGI/mistuoabe.jpg

Rides in the Jap version of speedway Ōto Rēsu (Auto Race). Very famous in Japan.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Never knew he died........ will have to google what year.
Someone (i think Pete mentioned seeing him riding in 96) i think that was the year he won the Japo GP
The race when he burst onto the seen was a year or two earlier also at Japan, i think, he crashed.


Sorry...yeah 94! Red and green Mr Donut Honda. Had Mr Grumpy Pants Doohan shaking his head at him on more than one occaision! I won good money on him at the TAB the year he first won it. $1500.00 I think. Brought some new B&W speakers I still use to this day!

[husaberg]

Thanks Oscar i never looked hard enough.
for those that don't know the Japanese do Pavement speedway Huge money...it was one of the few legal forms of betting.
The riders are paid a stipend when they make it pro and plus winnings
They have to maintain there own bikes and they are or where anyway HKS specials motors after they got sick of the Triumphs.
Note the twin steering damper dampening.

[Oscar]

Thanks Oscar i never looked hard enough.
for those that don't know the Japanese do Pavement speedway Huge money...it was one of the few legal forms of betting.
The riders are paid a stipend when they make it pro and plus winnings
They have to maintain there own bikes and they are or where anyway HKS specials motors after they got sick of the Triumphs.
Note the twin steering damper dampening.

And Abe is a legend at it.
Look for a You Tube clip - it's mental.
If I recall correctly, there's a lot of Yakuza involvement..

[husaberg]

And Abe is a legend at it.
Look for a You Tube clip - it's mental.
If I recall correctly, there's a lot of Yakuza involvement..

No doubt, they used to house them in a hotel for a week, before the races and ban telephones..... but i bet there is a will and a way.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And Abe is a legend at it.
Look for a You Tube clip - it's mental.
If I recall correctly, there's a lot of Yakuza involvement..

Yeah crazy fuckers eh!

[Shaun Harris]

And Abe is a legend at it.
Look for a You Tube clip - it's mental.
If I recall correctly, there's a lot of Yakuza involvement..







Big time Yakuza, hence the gambling

[jasonu]

Agree with that list but would add Rainey and Schwantz and def Lorenzo.

and Wayne Gardener.

[jasonu]

elbows down goes back way further back than that.One of the Sarron brothers used to drag his elbow

There was a German or Frenchie 250gp rider in the mid 80's that did that too. I remember seeing a photo of it in Two Wheels magazine and thinking fuck that is not possible. Can't remember his name...

[Crasherfromwayback]

and Wayne Gardener.

Yeah thought about including him. But I think he was more just a tough cunt mongrel than a freak of nature.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There was a German or Frenchie 250gp rider in the mid 80's that did that too. I remember seeing a photo of it in Two Wheels magazine and thinking fuck that is not possible. Can't remember his name...

Ruggia? Sp.

[Shaun Harris]

Yeah thought about including him. But I think he was more just a tough cunt mongrel than a freak of nature.




my thoughts exactually, even erv kamemoto basically said the same thing

[Crasherfromwayback]

my thoughts exactually, even erv kamemoto basically said the same thing

Mind you...I should've added that basically anyone that won races on those nasty old 500cc smokers was a freak of nature really!

[Shaun Harris]

Mind you...I should've added that basically anyone that won races on those nasty old 500cc smokers was a freak of nature really!





They sure were beasts, used to love watching them live in japan all the time when racing there

[jasonu]

There was a German or Frenchie 250gp rider in the mid 80's that did that too. I remember seeing a photo of it in Two Wheels magazine and thinking fuck that is not possible. Can't remember his name...

and now if you don't scrape your elbow you suck and don't have a shit show of getting near the front.

[Shaun Harris]

Kevin Mcgee and Darryl beatie are 2 more I forgot about, maybe not a freaks but ffffin talanted

[Crasherfromwayback]

Kevin Mcgee and Darryl beatie are 2 more I forgot about, maybe not a freaks but ffffin talanted

Yep. Although McGee's smokey at the bottom of the corkscrew was none too bright...

[Shaun Harris]

Yep. Although McGee's smokey at the bottom of the corkscrew was none too bright...






nah, ended his career realy, he was never the same after. He used to stay at mine in tokyo on accasions and chase women with me, a real deviant haha

[Reckless]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Marquez+to+miss+second+Sepang+test+after+breaking+ leg

Marquez to miss second Sepang test after breaking leg

Marquez to miss second Sepang test after breaking leg
Thursday, 20 February 2014
World Champion Marc Marquez will be unable to ride at next week’s second 2014 MotoGP™ test session at Sepang, having broken his right fibula during a dirt track training session in Spain on Wednesday afternoon.
The accident occurred in Lleida, west of Barcelona and close to Marquez’s home town of Cervera. The rookie premier class title winner of 2013, who on Monday had celebrated his 21st birthday, was immediately taken to the Quiron Dexeus University Hospital in Barcelona where he was treated by Dr. Xavier Mir for a spiral fracture of the distal third of his right fibula (bone between knee and ankle).

After carrying out a CT scan and x-ray, Dr. Mir explained:
"The results showed no ligament damage or dislocation and no need to proceed with surgery. I expect he will need three to four weeks to fully recover."

Marquez has already started rehabilitation with magnetic therapy. He will remain non-weight bearing for two weeks, meaning he will certainly miss next week’s Sepang test and possibly the following week in Phillip Island, Australia. Full recovery is expected for the season-opening Qatar MotoGP™ race on 23 March.

"It was a really unfortunate accident that could happen to anyone at anytime," Marquez commented on Thursday. "I was rushed to hospital and Dr. Mir treated me; thankfully there was no ligament damage and it seems like a clean break."

More information on Marquez’s recovery will be released in due course.

[roogazza]

Ahhhhh , so he is mortal . :facepalm::yes::no:

[Crasherfromwayback]

He'll be sweet as. Not a displaced fracture.

[Shaun Harris]

He'll be sweet as. Not a displaced fracture.




very young and very healthy also

[HenryDorsetCase]

I saw the headline and thought "Dang: it'll be Pedrosa this year then*"

Hope he gets back OK.


*or one of the Dark Lords on the Yamahas - what are their names again?

[carbonhed]

Holy crap. The planets must have misaligned somehow.

[Mental Trousers]

It's a wonder MotoGP riders don't have a clause in their contracts that forbids them from riding dirt bikes. The number of top guys who have problems riding because of dirt bike injuries is ridiculous.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's a wonder MotoGP riders don't have a clause in their contracts that forbids them from riding dirt bikes. The number of top guys who have problems riding because of dirt bike injuries is ridiculous.

Still the best training you can do mate. Can't rap themselves in cotton wool and wait for the season to start. If it wasn't dirtbikes...it's be snowboarding, skiing or whatever else.

[Mental Trousers]

Still the best training you can do mate. Can't rap themselves in cotton wool and wait for the season to start. If it wasn't dirtbikes...it's be snowboarding, skiing or whatever else.

Yeah I know it's the best training they can do short of being on their race bike, but the number of times you hear about these guys and other top racers getting dirt bike injuries is ridiculous. Their job is to ride the race bikes and if they can't do that because they got injured playing in the dirt I'd be really pissed off if I was a manager, team owner or sponsor.

I'm not saying stop them from doing anything dangerous, not at all. But you'd think they'd be told to keep away from dirt bikes.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yeah I know it's the best training they can do short of being on their race bike, but the number of times you hear about these guys and other top racers getting dirt bike injuries is ridiculous. Their job is to ride the race bikes and if they can't do that because they got injured playing in the dirt I'd be really pissed off if I was a manager, team owner or sponsor.

I'm not saying stop them from doing anything dangerous, not at all. But you'd think they'd be told to keep away from dirt bikes.

VR's old man runs a specific dirt bike training facility IIRC. maybe a 1/4 mile dirt track oval?

[eelracing]

Still the best training you can do mate. Can't rap themselves in cotton wool and wait for the season to start. If it wasn't dirtbikes...it's be snowboarding, skiing or whatever else.

Have you been watching the Sochi Olympics downhill racing...fucking awesome.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Have you been watching the Sochi Olympics downhill racing...fucking awesome.

Fucking madness eh!

[eelracing]

Fucking madness eh!

It's one of those sports where pie eating would be advantageous to momentum...but goddamn the airtime looks downright suicidal.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's one of those sports where pie eating would be advantageous to momentum...but goddamn the airtime looks downright suicidal.

Having done a fair bit of snowboarding...I sorta have a fair idea what they're getting up to But yeah...fuck that!

[pritch]

VR's old man runs a specific dirt bike training facility IIRC. maybe a 1/4 mile dirt track oval?

Not quite. VR has a "ranch" near Tavullia. The track is not oval it's more complicated than that. I think the surface is some sort of seal covered in white sandy material. There should be lots of video clips on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsYwOGBiLxk

I was checking the news on my cell phone and reading about a motorcyclist who had crashed and who mey have been drinking.
At the end of the item was a heading: Related News Grand Prix champion breaks leg.

A fairly tenuous link I thought.

[merv]

Perhaps the other guy was a champion drinker, so they are both champions.

[pritch]

Perhaps the other guy was a champion drinker,

It was a single vehicle accident, the rider failed to take a "moderate" bend. He then told witnesses that he had been drinking. It might be uncharitable of me but from the limited info available he seems more chump than champ.

[BMWST?]

They dont "play" in the dirt,its training,they reckon its the best way to train short of a! circuit and motogp bike,dont forget they only can ride the gp bikrs at "proper" sessions

[husaberg]

They dont "play" in the dirt,its training,they reckon its the best way to train short of a! circuit and motogp bike,dont forget they only can ride the gp bikrs at "proper" sessions

Worked for Rainey Lawson Kenny and Jon plus many others Inc Magee,Abe
XR100's

Kenny Roberts Ranch


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=257481&d=1329114600

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=257482&d=1329114628

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=257483&d=1329114654

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=257484&d=1329114681

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=257485&d=1329114709

[Mental Trousers]

They dont "play" in the dirt,its training,they reckon its the best way to train short of a! circuit and motogp bike,dont forget they only can ride the gp bikrs at "proper" sessions

:facepalm: I know that. The training is still playing even though they're doing things like learning to slide the front/rear/both and all the other techniques that dirt bike riding teaches.

As a manager I'd be telling them to go and wrestle an overweight and under powered superstocker on knackered tyres around instead, they'd be far more likely to make the starting grid for the first MotoGP race without injury.

[pritch]

Interesting news breaking in Spain. Carmelo Ezpeleta and the Jerez circuit are being investigated for fraud by the Spanish tax authorities. No threat to the 2014 GP round at this stage.

[Shaun Harris]

Interesting news breaking in Spain. Carmelo Ezpeleta and the Jerez circuit are being investigated for fraud by the Spanish tax authorities. No threat to the 2014 GP round at this stage.









Spain, fraud, tax issues, surprise surprise

[pritch]

Courtesy of Mat Oxley and Google Translate:
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.omnimoto.it/magazine/13074/carmelo-ezpeleta-indagato-evasione-fiscale-jerez&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcarmelo%2Bezpeleta%2Bjerez%26espv%3D2 10%26es_sm%3D93

[pritch]

Meanwhile bums warm seats on flights to Sepang.

[roogazza]

Spiral might be worse than a simple break or crack ?
MM is the alien,the other 3 are now just FAST ! :laugh:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Feb/140221mik3.htm

[Shaun Harris]

Spiral might be worse than a simple break or crack ?
MM is the alien,the other 3 are now just FAST ! :laugh:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Feb/140221mik3.htm





As long as it heals correctly, him missing a couple of test sessions will be no drama, harder yes but not a drama

[codgyoleracer]

Spiral might be worse than a simple break or crack ?
MM is the alien,the other 3 are now just FAST ! :laugh:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Feb/140221mik3.htm


Tend to agree, MM could maybe turn up for the first time on Friday practice at 1st round and be on the pace by Saturday morning ...................... Dontcha hate natural talent :-)

[roogazza]

This might explain the fairly modest livery for Yamaha on this years model at launch?

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/02/24/movistar_confirm_sponsorship_of_yamaha_m.html

[steveyb]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/200597/1/first-look-aspar-unwraps-2014-motogp-livery.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/200597/1/first-look-aspar-unwraps-2014-motogp-livery.html

Yeah that's pretty cool!

[Mental Trousers]

This might explain the fairly modest livery for Yamaha on this years model at launch?

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/02/24/movistar_confirm_sponsorship_of_yamaha_m.html

It's great to see a sponsor on the Yamahas again.

It's absolute bullshit to see the 2 biggest markets for MotoGP are no longer free to air. Best way to shrink market share and lose sponsors is to sell out to Sky.

[pritch]

This might explain the fairly modest livery for Yamaha on this years model at launch?

http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/02/24/movistar_confirm_sponsorship_of_yamaha_m.html

I have recently read, but can't remember where, (it's a bugger getting old) that this plan has struck a problem. An existing sponsor is not prepared to yield space for the new sponsors name. IIRC Monster (?) claim they have the contract. Hopefully all concerned can sort this before it gets too complicated.

[Bender]

Yeah that's pretty cool!

Yep, if your bikes are slow they may as well look good. Here's hoping that Honda comes to the table with a few more horses for the 'open' bikes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep, if your bikes are slow they may as well look good. Here's hoping that Honda comes to the table with a few more horses for the 'open' bikes.

Yep. NH has done enough time on uncompetitive dogs.

[roogazza]

I have recently read, but can't remember where, (it's a bugger getting old) that this plan has struck a problem. An existing sponsor is not prepared to yield space for the new sponsors name. IIRC Monster (?) claim they have the contract. Hopefully all concerned can sort this before it gets too complicated.
Yes read that myself. Monster were mentioned, lawyers at dawn !

[roogazza]

It's great to see a sponsor on the Yamahas again.

It's absolute bullshit to see the 2 biggest markets for MotoGP are no longer free to air. Best way to shrink market share and lose sponsors is to sell out to Sky.
Yeah it is. but luckily I'm a SKY subscriber and got the WSB live in from Austruckingfailure last sunday ! Appreciate that !

If they don't show Motogp I have a arranged for a mate to burn off a copy which will arrive on the morning after, I'm covered.:banana::banana:

[pritch]

Well I just got totally overcome by the spirit of the occasion and forked out for the MotoGP video subscription again. A bit scary for a minute, it looked like the price had gone up by 35Euros but I looked a bit harder and found the basic video pass price.

Only worry now is that on the laptop I can't see the little icon that lets me put the video on the TV.
I guess I've got about a month to find it.

[Drew]

Yep. NH has done enough time on uncompetitive dogs.Thing was still faster than the Ducati at the last test weekend, wasn't it?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thing was still faster than the Ducati at the last test weekend, wasn't it?

Can't remember mate. Be sad if it wasn't!

[roogazza]

Well I just got totally overcome by the spirit of the occasion and forked out for the MotoGP video subscription again. A bit scary for a minute, it looked like the price had gone up by 35Euros but I looked a bit harder and found the basic video pass price.

Only worry now is that on the laptop I can't see the little icon that lets me put the video on the TV.
I guess I've got about a month to find it.
:laugh: You can get your flights booked for your favourite GPs now. Dates have been finalised on the Calendar. :msn-wink:
http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/02/24/2014_motogp_calendar_finalized_brazil_dr.html

[pritch]

Thing was still faster than the Ducati at the last test weekend, wasn't it?

Not according to the times posted earlier in this thread. Iannone was fastest, but everybody including the factory test rider beat Hayden and Aoyama.

From the times available so fat today, Hayden is ahead of the Ducatis - and Pedrosa. So the times may not mean a lot?

[BMWST?]

Yeah it is. but luckily I'm a SKY subscriber and got the WSB live in from Austruckingfailure last sunday ! Appreciate that !

If they don't show Motogp I have a arranged for a mate to burn off a copy which will arrive on the morning after, I'm covered.:banana::banana:

Has motogp been cinfirmed on sky?

[Dave-]

Yeah it is. but luckily I'm a SKY subscriber and got the WSB live in from Austruckingfailure last sunday ! Appreciate that !

If they don't show Motogp I have a arranged for a mate to burn off a copy which will arrive on the morning after, I'm covered.:banana::banana:

Even if they do get motogp, you're better off to ditch sky, spend the difference on a decent internet connection and just stream whatever you want to your TV.

[roogazza]

Even if they do get motogp, you're better off to ditch sky, spend the difference on a decent internet connection and just stream whatever you want to your TV.

Yeah dave, seems thats the way the world is moving and I'll have to re evaluate what I want soon.
My sons tell me to get with the times lol buy me cell phones and got me txting ! But I still get in trouble not taking my bloody phone everywhere /!!!!! Must admit it is far cheaper txting the other half from Italy than phoning home. She gets updates where I (might !!!) be, haha :shifty:
But I do use the history (hitler ) channel and the like and do watch other sports. <_<

[tail_end_charlie]

So Marquez is to miss the Phillip Island test (http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/02/26/marquez_to_miss_the_phillip_island_test_.html), anyone want to hazard a guess as to weither or not HRC will ask thier local test rider to stand in for him?

Myself, I think its pretty doubtful. HRC seem to want to hold CS as a background test rider, and not one that is out with the others where times can be compared. I wonder if that is HRC or CS calling the shots on that???

[Crasherfromwayback]

So Marquez is to miss the Phillip Island test (http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/02/26/marquez_to_miss_the_phillip_island_test_.html), anyone want to hazard a guess as to weither or not HRC will ask thier local test rider to stand in for him?

Myself, I think its pretty doubtful. HRC seem to want to hold CS as a background test rider, and not one that is out with the others where times can be compared. I wonder if that is HRC or CS calling the shots on that???

Yeah good point mate.

[Badjelly]

Well I just got totally overcome by the spirit of the occasion and forked out for the MotoGP video subscription again.

I didn't even have to do that. They signed me up for another year (including the current off-season) in November, debited my credit card, everything all done for me. Wasn't that nice of them?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I didn't even have to do that. They signed me up for another year (including the current off-season) in November, debited my credit card, everything all done for me. Wasn't that nice of them?

Lol. Yeah the cheeky cunts tried that with me too...cept my card was over it's limit and they couldn't. Fuckers tried three times no less!

[Mental Trousers]

It's the same as with the dodgy WSBK subscription - untick the Autorenew

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/164042-Wsbk-2014-video-pass?p=1130680900#post1130680900

[Shaun Harris]

Ducati gotta go OPEN class route and if they do, they will be back on the podium again I reckon well before the season is over. 2015 is going to be like watching Moto2 or 3 in the motogp class again, way cool

[Badjelly]

It's the same as with the dodgy WSBK subscription - untick the Autorenew

Yeah, I could, but that Carmelo Ezpeleta is such a nice guy, I just want to give him all my money!

[Reckless]

Ducati gotta go OPEN class route and if they do, they will be back on the podium again I reckon well before the season is over. 2015 is going to be like watching Moto2 or 3 in the motogp class again, way cool

They may not Sean???

Today's report off Moto GP they are up there in 4th, further up than they have been for a while?
Jeepers that'll make the decision harder not easier?? Another 10th place decision made, 4th who knows?

Dovizioso and teammate Cal Crutchlow took to the track on their Desmosedici GP14 machines to try out the updates brought to Malaysia for these tests and continue development work on the bikes.

After evaluating a number of different set-ups in his 47 laps on the track, Dovizioso found a comfortable feeling towards the end of the day. The Italian rider was able to record his quickest time of 2’01.029s just a few minutes before the end, concluding Wednesday’s session in an encouraging fourth place.

The priority of the Ducati Team at this test is to continue with the development of the GP14, as they aim to finalise their decision to run ‘Open’ class or ‘MSMA’ entries in 2014.

Dovizioso commented, “We started the day when the grip on the track was not particularly good. We did some laps in the morning, but then worked better in the afternoon when the track improved. The first day was positive, because with what we tested we were able to improve the bike, both in the electronics and in set-up.”

“We didn’t have much new stuff to try, just different set-ups that seemed to work well. I had a really good feeling towards the end of the day, when I put on a good tyre on my final exit and managed to set a good time. Even though the times are not to be considered a reference point, I’m still pretty pleased with the improvement we made today.”

[Shaun Harris]

They may not Sean???

Today's report off Moto GP they are up there in 4th, further up than they have been for a while?
Jeepers that'll make the decision harder not easier?? Another 10th place decision made, 4th who knows?

Dovizioso and teammate Cal Crutchlow took to the track on their Desmosedici GP14 machines to try out the updates brought to Malaysia for these tests and continue development work on the bikes.

After evaluating a number of different set-ups in his 47 laps on the track, Dovizioso found a comfortable feeling towards the end of the day. The Italian rider was able to record his quickest time of 2’01.029s just a few minutes before the end, concluding Wednesday’s session in an encouraging fourth place.

The priority of the Ducati Team at this test is to continue with the development of the GP14, as they aim to finalise their decision to run ‘Open’ class or ‘MSMA’ entries in 2014.

Dovizioso commented, “We started the day when the grip on the track was not particularly good. We did some laps in the morning, but then worked better in the afternoon when the track improved. The first day was positive, because with what we tested we were able to improve the bike, both in the electronics and in set-up.”

“We didn’t have much new stuff to try, just different set-ups that seemed to work well. I had a really good feeling towards the end of the day, when I put on a good tyre on my final exit and managed to set a good time. Even though the times are not to be considered a reference point, I’m still pretty pleased with the improvement we made today.”







yea been following all that mate, but we do not know what exact spec the bikes are in with this test? and the gp14 is already quite a bit different to last years bike

I bet there is a very different DUCATI under one of the riders out there

[roogazza]

Last week I was given Matt Oxleys book on Mick Doohan to read (great read too).
So naturally I clicked on a Blog with his name on it.
http://www.motomatters.com/blog/2014/02/26/guest_blog_mat_oxley_the_death_of_bike_r.html

[pritch]

So Marquez is to miss the Phillip Island test (http://www.motomatters.com/news/2014/02/26/marquez_to_miss_the_phillip_island_test_.html), anyone want to hazard a guess as to weither or not HRC will ask thier local test rider to stand in for him?

Myself, I think its pretty doubtful. HRC seem to want to hold CS as a background test rider, and not one that is out with the others where times can be compared. I wonder if that is HRC or CS calling the shots on that???

Honda have said he will not be at Phillip Island. He has said he intends to take a year off all motorsport, no testing, but then he was challenging some top V8 drivers to a kart race a week or two back.

Guess we will know the truth in October?

[pritch]

Last week I was given Matt Oxleys book on Mick Doohan to read (great read too).
So naturally I clicked on a Blog with his name on it.
http://www.motomatters.com/blog/2014/02/26/guest_blog_mat_oxley_the_death_of_bike_r.html

I have been quoting Oxley quite frequently. A former TT winner and lap record holder, he has been a racing journo for about twenty five years(?).
Until recently he had a page in BIKE each month but the full version of his columns appears here: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/author/matoxley/
There you go, lots to read :yes:

[Shaun Harris]

Ducati gotta go OPEN class route and if they do, they will be back on the podium again I reckon well before the season is over. 2015 is going to be like watching Moto2 or 3 in the motogp class again, way cool









Dovi strated testing open spec yesterday after I posted this



Who wants lotto winning numbers then haha

[tail_end_charlie]

Honda have said he will not be at Phillip Island. He has said he intends to take a year off all motorsport, no testing, but then he was challenging some top V8 drivers to a kart race a week or two back.

Guess we will know the truth in October?

Bugger, hadn't heard anything official yet. I know that CS is his own person and can do more or less what he wants, but damned if I don't want to see the little shit out there tearing up PI again and showing them how to ride Stoner corner..... :shutup:

[pritch]

The Yamaha factory bikes can't handle the new stiffer Bridgstones designed to handle the extra heat. Rossi is having difficulty but not as much as Lorenzo. Lorenzo refused to take part in the press conference yesterday saying he had nothing to add to what he had said the day before. Lorenzo was already having difficulty with the new fuel saving electronics which make the engine response to throttle adjustments more abrupt.

I guess this is the sort of thing that happens when you have a single supplier. Yamaha have told Bridgestone the tyres are not suitable. Bridgstone aren't prepared to change anything. If there was another supplier there would be more pressure on Bridgestone to listen to complaints.

Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Gap Prev. Gap Laps Last lap
1 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 2:00.039 55 / 57
2 ESPARGARO, Aleix NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2:00.320 0.281 0.281 39 / 41
3 BAUTISTA, Alvaro GO&FUN Honda Gresini 2:00.500 0.461 0.180 52 / 55
4 ROSSI, Valentino Yamaha Factory Racing 2:00.605 0.566 0.105 9 / 60
5 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 2:00.787 0.748 0.182 8 / 48
6 BRADL, Stefan LCR Honda MotoGP 2:00.902 0.863 0.115 4 / 52
7 CRUTCHLOW, Cal Ducati Team 2:00.952 0.913 0.050 50 / 52
8 ESPARGARO, Pol Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.027 0.988 0.075 12 / 47
9 LORENZO, Jorge Yamaha Factory Racing 2:01.049 1.010 0.022 30 / 57
10 SMITH, Bradley Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.098 1.059 0.049 57 / 60
11 IANNONE, Andrea Pramac Racing 2:01.173 1.134 0.075 23 / 49
12 HERNANDEZ, Yonny Energy T.I. Pramac Racing 2:01.658 1.619 0.485 7 / 50
13 EDWARDS, Colin NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2:01.996 1.957 0.338 25 / 45
14 HAYDEN, Nicky Drive M7 Aspar 2:02.088 2.049 0.092 55 / 59
15 DE PUNIET, Randy Team Suzuki MotoGP 2:02.139 2.100 0.051 59 / 60
16 BARBERA, Hector Avintia Racing 2:02.149 2.110 0.010 43 / 45
17 REDDING, Scott GO&FUN Honda Gresini 2:02.652 2.613 0.503 38 / 54
18 AOYAMA, Hiroshi Drive M7 Aspar 2:02.786 2.747 0.134 70 / 72
19 PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team 2:02.799 2.760 0.013 25 / 45
20 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Test Team 2:02.802 2.763 0.003 47 / 48
21 DI MEGLIO, Mike Avintia Racing 2:03.946 3.907 1.144 50 / 51
22 ABRAHAM, Karel Cardion AB Motoracing 2:05.198 5.159 1.252 4 / 25
23 AOKI, Nobuatsu Team Suzuki MotoGP 2:07.462 7.423 2.264 19 / 20

[Crasherfromwayback]

The Yamaha factory bikes can't handle the new stiffer Bridgstones designed to handle the extra heat. Rossi is having difficulty but not as much as Lorenzo. Lorenzo refused to take part in the press conference yesterday saying he had nothing to add to what he had said the day before. Lorenzo was already having difficulty with the new fuel saving electronics which make the engine response to throttle adjustments more abrupt.

I guess this is the sort of thing that happens when you have a single supplier. Yamaha have told Bridgestone the tyres are not suitable. Bridgstone aren't prepared to change anything. If there was another supplier there would be more pressure on Bridgestone to listen to complaints.



Swings and roundabouts. The other year it was the top two Honda guys having trouble with the then new tyre.

[tail_end_charlie]

The Yamaha factory bikes can't handle the new stiffer Bridgstones designed to handle the extra heat. Rossi is having difficulty but not as much as Lorenzo. Lorenzo refused to take part in the press conference yesterday saying he had nothing to add to what he had said the day before. Lorenzo was already having difficulty with the new fuel saving electronics which make the engine response to throttle adjustments more abrupt.

I guess this is the sort of thing that happens when you have a single supplier. Yamaha have told Bridgestone the tyres are not suitable. Bridgstone aren't prepared to change anything. If there was another supplier there would be more pressure on Bridgestone to listen to complaints.


Swings and roundabouts. The other year it was the top two Honda guys having trouble with the then new tyre.

Swings and roundabouts yes, but thats exactly the problem. 2012 Bridgestone introduced the the front tire and the Honda guys hated it, just couldn't get it to work as good as the old one. And it took HRC the first 1/3 of the season to get things sorted out and deal with the problem. Why? Because they were developing the bike on the old spec front tire, and when they new came out they had to rework things to make it work. Pretty much the same thing seems to be happening in 2014 with the rear tire and Yamaha. You have two different bikes that rely of different strengths to be the fastest around the track. Changing an intigral part of the bike (tires) right before the start of the season doesn't seem to bright for all involved. Someone will end up getting screwed.

So, if you bring back the tire compitition, or even provide the new tire spec an year in advance or something, the teams/manufactures can at least take the new spec tire into account and be prepared for it. Instead right now all they can do is react in panic and try to change the bike to match the tire spec during the season.....

[Crasherfromwayback]

So, if you bring back the tire compitition, or even provide the new tire spec an year in advance or something, the teams/manufactures can at least take the new spec tire into account and be prepared for it. Instead right now all they can do is react in panic and try to change the bike to match the tire spec during the season.....

Agree 100%. I've never thought Moto GP should have a single tyre supplier rule. It's detrimental to the sport I reckon.

[Shaun Harris]

Agree 100%. I've never thought Moto GP should have a single tyre supplier rule. It's detrimental to the sport I reckon.






Agreed man, elecronic this and that bullshit when the tyres are one brand it is so hard to plan for, it throws all budgets out the window

[DidJit]

No questioning Cal’s dedication (https://twitter.com/calcrutchlow/status/439038810500767744)...

[Shaun Harris]

No questioning Cal’s dedication (https://twitter.com/calcrutchlow/status/439038810500767744)...







I love his working class mentallity

[tail_end_charlie]

Agree 100%. I've never thought Moto GP should have a single tyre supplier rule. It's detrimental to the sport I reckon.

And it looks like David Emmett (http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/28/2014_motogp_sepang_2_day_2_round_up_the_.html) thinks the same way as well. The "...putting the cart before the horse." is probably the best way to describe the current situation.


"With Bridgestone contracted to supply a single spec of tires to all of the teams equally (with minor variations for hard and soft tires, and an extra construction for the Open class bikes), the tire becomes the central parameter around which the bikes are designed. When the tire changes – always in response to requests from the riders and the teams, and usually in response to safety concerns – that means bikes need changing too, to adapt to the new circumstances. This is, of course, putting the cart before the horse. After all, modifying the design of a tire can be done relatively quickly and easily. Modifying a bike to cope with a different tire can take months, and many, many iterations of chassis, modifying stiffness in varying directions, as well as suspension and electronics set up."

[Dave-]

Agreed man, elecronic this and that bullshit when the tyres are one brand it is so hard to plan for, it throws all budgets out the window

I love Shaun's commentary on motogp. As someone who has clearly been involved in running a highly successful grand prix team I think his contribution to this thread is outstanding.

What are these 'electronics and bullshit' that are such a integral part of the tyre?

Why is it so much more difficult to plan for two tyre brands than just one? And why does this mean the budget has to be discarded?

[pritch]

Interesting:

Pos Rider Team
1 ROSSI, Valentino Yamaha Factory Racing
2 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team
3 ESPARGARO, Aleix NGM Mobile Forward Racing
4 BRADL, Stefan LCR Honda MotoGP
5 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team
6 BAUTISTA, Alvaro GO&FUN Honda Gresini
7 LORENZO, Jorge Yamaha Factory Racing
8 CRUTCHLOW, Cal Ducati Team
9 ESPARGARO, Pol Monster Yanaha Tech 3
10 SMITH, Bradley Monster Yamaha Tech 3
11 IANNONE, Andrea Pramac Racing
12 DE PUNIET, Randy Team Suzuki MotoGP
13 HERNANDEZ, Yonny Energy T.I. Pramac Racing
14 EDWARDS, Colin NGM Mobile Forward Racing
15 PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team
16 HAYDEN, Nicky Drive M7 Aspar
17 BARBERA, Hector Avintia Racing
18 REDDING, Scott GO&FUN Honda Gresini
19 AOYAMA, Hiroshi Drive M7 Aspar
20 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Test Team
21 DI MEGLIO, Mike Avintia Racing
22 ABRAHAM, Karel Cardion AB Motoracing
23 AOKI, Nobuatsu Team Suzuki MotoGP

[Brian d marge]

Ducati gotta go OPEN class route and if they do, they will be back on the podium again I reckon well before the season is over. 2015 is going to be like watching Moto2 or 3 in the motogp class again, way cool
agreed , but Ducati have to move the crank forward , and get the COG in line , or slightly above of the axial plane ( ie in the right place ) and get those electrics sorted

and that aint goint to happen with a trad duke layout or the team they have

bin the fkin thing and go 750 v4 2t 60 odd degree layout

Stephen

IMHO

and get MM to ride it , or some one with balls

[DidJit]

That Gigi is a clever man (http://motomatters.com/news/2014/02/28/ducati_announce_they_will_be_racing_as_o.html), isn’t he? (Hint: fourth paragraph...)

Primer (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/28/motogp_rules_primer_open_vs_factory_the_.html): Factory versus Open class definitions...

[Shaun Harris]

Dovi strated testing open spec yesterday after I posted this



Who wants lotto winning numbers then haha







ok will tell the truth now, Gigi called me thursday night to let me know the full plan

[Shaun Harris]

I love Shaun's commentary on motogp. As someone who has clearly been involved in running a highly successful grand prix team I think his contribution to this thread is outstanding.

What are these 'electronics and bullshit' that are such a integral part of the tyre?




Ummmmmmm the anti wheel spin for a part that saves the tyre doing the work the riders used to have to controll with there right hand

Why is it so much more difficult to plan for two tyre brands than just one? And why does this mean the budget has to be discarded?


Never grunted it was hard to plan for 2 tyres, what I was implying is it is hard for Yamaha or as happened to Honda last year to build a chassis that works for tyres NOT yet invented, then when they do get thm they have to change pre built and tested chassis to work with the new tyres, that is how it blows the budget out of the window




Making any more sense now Dave

[Shaun Harris]

agreed , but Ducati have to move the crank forward , and get the COG in line , or slightly above of the axial plane ( ie in the right place ) and get those electrics sorted

and that aint goint to happen with a trad duke layout or the team they have

bin the fkin thing and go 750 v4 2t 60 odd degree layout

Stephen

IMHO

and get MM to ride it , or some one with balls







Yea, and they already have Carl C with balls man

[Drew]

Yea, and they already have Carl C with balls manIt's not doing them any good though. Dovi is the better rider of those two I reckon, and will be ahead of Crutchlow at the end of the season I'm picking.

[pritch]

It's not doing them any good though. Dovi is the better rider of those two I reckon, and will be ahead of Crutchlow at the end of the season I'm picking.

They were pretty closely matched last time they were team mates. Dovi has more experience on the Duc, which may or may or may not be a good thing.
A few races in and they could be back to scrapping with each other regularly - and hopefully with some of the other teams too?

Most people thought the advantages for Ducati of going "open" were too significant to ignore. Dorna will be loving it. Might take their mind off the tax fraud inquiry.:whistle:

I'm going for a ride...

[Shaun Harris]

It's not doing them any good though. Dovi is the better rider of those two I reckon, and will be ahead of Crutchlow at the end of the season I'm picking.





each to there own man. Carl will deff find the limits sooner ( And go beyond them haha) so this level of commitment is required to go forward fast. Dovi is extremelly consistent, so he sure will get more total points than Carl

[BMWST?]

No questioning Cal’s dedication (https://twitter.com/calcrutchlow/status/439038810500767744)...

Hasnt he heard of meths?

[BMWST?]

yea, and they already have carl c with balls man

it's cal cruthlow

[Shaun Harris]

Hasnt he heard of meths?







Urine does work better and faster than meths mate

[Shaun Harris]

it's cal cruthlow









lucky it was close enough for you to figure out his name then

[BMWST?]

Urine does work better and faster than meths mate

Meths was fine when I used to row,i will take your word for it!

[Shaun Harris]

Meths was fine when I used to row,i will take your word for it!






I used meths for years for blisters untill trying Urine in Japan years ago when I also was rowing, and it really surprised me how quickly it works

[Bender]

Ducati confirms it's going Open class (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Ducati+choose+Open+option)

[Reckless]

Pretty good round up!

Pedro and Rossi Tied, Lorenzo and Cal improving, the whole bunch still .466 secs off MM's last years times.

Ducati to go OPEN

http://www.nzsuperbike.com/2014/03/motogp-rossi-and-pedrosa-equal-fastest.html?spref=fb

[raziel1983]

That Gigi is a clever man (http://motomatters.com/news/2014/02/28/ducati_announce_they_will_be_racing_as_o.html), isn’t he? (Hint: fourth paragraph...)

Primer (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/28/motogp_rules_primer_open_vs_factory_the_.html): Factory versus Open class definitions...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=294342&d=1393650896

[Brian d marge]

I used meths for years for blisters untill trying Urine in Japan years ago when I also was rowing, and it really surprised me how quickly it works

Me to
Though thunderbird wine is the same price and tastes better

Back to bikes

Would love to see the duke pull out another radical design and stick it the pointy end


Living in hope


Stephen


Sent from my SC-01F using Tapatalk

[Mental Trousers]

Would love to see the duke pull out another radical design and stick it the pointy end

I loved it when Ducati were running the Carbon Fibre Monocoque. That was ahead of it's time. Unfortunately it'll be written off as a failure due to the engine and not the chassis design.

However, their Superbike looks like it's starting to come good now people are figuring out how to sort the bike.

[actungbaby]

There was a German or Frenchie 250gp rider in the mid 80's that did that too. I remember seeing a photo of it in Two Wheels magazine and thinking fuck that is not possible. Can't remember his name...

Not christen sharon brother and then was that philip r chap he rode yamaha mind you so did domique

pity i sold all my motorcourse books went from 84-to when swantz won

[BMWST?]

Not christen sharon brother and then was that philip r chap he rode yamaha mind you so did domique

pity i sold all my motorcourse books went from 84-to when swantz won

I have them from 78 to now I think I missed one year ended up with two of the next

[pritch]

I see tonight that Kevin Cameron thinks that Yamaha should have gone "open" too. I think they would not have considered it because of the loss of "face".
In two or three months we'll have a pretty good idea if KC had it right.

The pundits keep telling us that times in testing mean nothing. We tend to ignore that, just as it happens they do themselves. As apparently do the riders as well, who really should know better than anybody.

Based on the results of Sepang 2 Rossi thinks he will stick around a couple more years. Big call considering MM93 was MIA and that Lorenzo was ummm discombobulated(?). Even Rossi said that Lorenzo will be ready come Qatar.

PI testing this week. Then when the lights go out in Qatar (well some of them) we should get an idea. Us, the pundits and the riders too.

[tail_end_charlie]

I see tonight that Kevin Cameron thinks that Yamaha should have gone "open" too. I think they would not have considered it because of the loss of "face".
In two or three months we'll have a pretty good idea if KC had it right.

The pundits keep telling us that times in testing mean nothing. We tend to ignore that, just as it happens they do themselves. As apparently do the riders as well, who really should know better than anybody.

Based on the results of Sepang 2 Rossi thinks he will stick around a couple more years. Big call considering MM93 was MIA and that Lorenzo was ummm discombobulated(?). Even Rossi said that Lorenzo will be ready come Qatar.

PI testing this week. Then when the lights go out in Qatar (well some of them) we should get an idea. Us, the pundits and the riders too.

Yeah, there is a lot of pissing into the wind right now that won't mean shit come lights out at Qatar. Only another 3 Weeks! Yeah boi!!

[husaberg]

Not christen sharon brother and then was that philip r chap he rode yamaha mind you so did domique

pity i sold all my motorcourse books went from 84-to when swantz won

Rugga went on to Aprilia?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, there is a lot of pissing into the wind right now that won't mean shit come lights out at Qatar. Only another 3 Weeks! Yeah boi!!

Fuck yeah. BRING it! Be a brave man to bet against MM I feel.

[Shaun Harris]

Fuck yeah. BRING it! Be a brave man to bet against MM I feel.





Agreed man. Re Rossi and testing though, I really believe the new team enviroment for him has helped him to change his mind set which you know is incredibly important to ride fast and we are going to see more than 1 race win by him this season.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Agreed man. Re Rossi and testing though, I really believe the new team enviroment for him has helped him to change his mind set which you know is incredibly important to ride fast and we are going to see more than 1 race win by him this season.

Yep. I've said it before...but (obviously) only too happy to repeat myself...I thought he was a numbnuts for cutting JB loose, but I've been wrong many times before, and I for one would love to see the Rossi of old back to spice things up. I really do want to see if the old dog is/was as good as these new fellas.

[Shaun Harris]

Yep. I've said it before...but (obviously) only too happy to repeat myself...I thought he was a numbnuts for cutting JB loose, but I've been wrong many times before, and I for one would love to see the Rossi of old back to spice things up. I really do want to see if the old dog is/was as good as these new fellas.





I Know what you are saying re cutting JB Loose man, but again as I have said, 90% of winning races is done in the head before you even get on the bike, and he needed to change his data bank to re group and move on and based on his testing times and comments, I think he has found the believe in himself again properlly again. as we both know you never loose the talent, just the drive to do it, and thinks are looking good as far as his fuel tank being full with that again.
Even starting his little mind game tricks again with Lorenzo in saying

" we do have tyre issues but I think Lorenzo will be fine" haha yea write he does

[Reckless]

Fuck yeah. BRING it! Be a brave man to bet against MM I feel.

Yep they all still .466 behind MM last years times at the test??

[Shaun Harris]

Yep they all still .466 behind MM last years times at the test??





Not challenging the talent of MM at all, but you do need to consider weather condition at the test track big time also, it plays a major part in lap times over there

[Shaun Harris]

So at the end of wedensday testing at Phillip Island, I say CC will have fastest Ducati lap time

[carbonhed]

So at the end of wedensday testing at Phillip Island, I say CC will have fastest Ducati lap time

OK how did you pick that?

PI day1 (http://www.motogp.com/en/TestResults/MotoGP+Moto2+Phillip+Island+2014)

[Reckless]

Different track now Lorenzo has hit his straps ??

Cal out of the doldrums up there, Rossi still hangin in.

Jeepers complete swap around I don't think I'll even try a prediction??

Bloody fun to watch aye :)

[Shaun Harris]

OK how did you pick that?

PI day1 (http://www.motogp.com/en/TestResults/MotoGP+Moto2+Phillip+Island+2014)





Pure f---in fluke, but obviously i do rate him. I love it when a working class boy comes good

[carbonhed]

Pure f---in fluke, but obviously i do rate him. I love it when a working class boy comes good

:laugh: Dovi was sick apparently.

[denill]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/200802/1/phillip-island-motogp-test-times-monday-final.html> Day One at PI</A>

[Kiwi Graham]

have been emailing them twice a week for a while now :bash: asking whats going on any why has nothing been achieved, they are always so polite in their reply :yawn:

Hi Graham,

Thanks for your email.

We appreciate you are a MotoGP fan and as advised in our previous email our offer is on the table and unfortunately, we will not be able to provide you with any details about our bid until we get any outcome of the same. And there is no time frame for the rights acquisition as for some events we got the rights confirmed right at the time of the Kick-Off and for some events it will be well before 3 to 6 months before the start.

However, we have registered and forwarded your feedback to our sports department.

Please feel free to contact SKY Television Customer Services on 0800 759 759 for further information during weekdays 8am-10pm and weekends 8am-9pm. Alternatively, please respond via return email and we will endeavour to reply within 24 hours.

Regards,

SKY Online Crew

[denill]

have been emailing them twice a week for a while now :bash: asking whats going on any why has nothing been achieved, they are always so polite in their reply :yawn:

What's their email Graham?

[Kiwi Graham]

What's their email Graham?

skytv@mailsy.custhelp.com

go hard mate

[denill]

skytv@mailsy.custhelp.com

go hard mate

Done. :bash:

Thanks.

[denill]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/200814/1/phillip-island-motogp-test-times-tuesday-130pm.html>This mornings PI times are still pretty slow?</A>

[Dave-]

have been emailing them twice a week for a while now :bash: asking whats going on any why has nothing been achieved, they are always so polite in their reply :yawn:

Hi Graham,

Thanks for your email.

We appreciate you are a MotoGP fan and as advised in our previous email our offer is on the table and unfortunately, we will not be able to provide you with any details about our bid until we get any outcome of the same. And there is no time frame for the rights acquisition as for some events we got the rights confirmed right at the time of the Kick-Off and for some events it will be well before 3 to 6 months before the start.

However, we have registered and forwarded your feedback to our sports department.

Please feel free to contact SKY Television Customer Services on 0800 759 759 for further information during weekdays 8am-10pm and weekends 8am-9pm. Alternatively, please respond via return email and we will endeavour to reply within 24 hours.

Regards,

SKY Online Crew

Just cancel sky and pirate it.

[Shaun Harris]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/200814/1/phillip-island-motogp-test-times-tuesday-130pm.html>This mornings PI times are still pretty slow?</A>





take another look at 7-25 pm mate

[denill]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/200816/1/phillip-island-motogp-test-times-tuesday-final.html>And Dovi did 342.9 km/h.................</a>

[Shaun Harris]

take another look at 7-25 pm mate





thought times would change at the end of the day

[Crasherfromwayback]

Honda gonna pack a tanty?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Mar/140304openbacklast.htm

[Mental Trousers]

Honda gonna pack a tanty?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Mar/140304openbacklast.htm

Yeah. Problem is they'll probably get shitty and make a bike that uses 19 litres per race and 2 engines per year and still win just to give everyone the finger.

[merv]

I can understand they would be aggrieved with Dorna happily changing rules, tyres and anything they please on a whim.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah. Problem is they'll probably get shitty and make a bike that uses 19 litres per race and 2 engines per year and still win just to give everyone the finger.


I can understand they would be aggrieved with Dorna happily changing rules, tyres and anything they please on a whim.

Agree with both.

[merv]

Look where AMA racing has got to in USA since promoters took over and I wonder about GP racing. Why did the FIM and the manufacturers ever lose control of the series to promoters? No doubt money but wonder if they have regrets now?

[Oscar]

I can understand they would be aggrieved with Dorna happily changing rules, tyres and anything they please on a whim.

Up until very recently, Dorna could not afford to go head to head with Honda.
Honda pretty much called the shots, or they'd take their toys and go home.
Times have changed apparently and karma is a bitch.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Up until very recently, Dorna could not afford to go head to head with Honda.
Honda pretty much called the shots, or they'd take their toys and go home.
Times have changed apparently and karma is a bitch.

I agree that Honda for too long called the shots (or so it seemed)...but I doubt you'd want them to fuck right off out of the catagory...as they'd likely influence Yamaha etc too.

[Shaun Harris]

I agree that Honda for too long called the shots (or so it seemed)...but I doubt you'd want them to fuck right off out of the catagory...as they'd likely influence Yamaha etc too.






I seriously do not think that Honda would pull out, way to much pride involved

[Mental Trousers]

Look where AMA racing has got to in USA since promoters took over and I wonder about GP racing. Why did the FIM and the manufacturers ever lose control of the series to promoters? No doubt money but wonder if they have regrets now?

That pisses me off. The 2 biggest markets for MotoGP are no longer available free to air, which is farken suicide. How the hell do sponsors get exposure if you're limiting the audience to a select group. It's farken insane.

[Asher]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31/p180x540/1911993_278744632281744_419244757_o.jpg

[Crasherfromwayback]

[IMG]https]

Certainly wasn't taken today!

[raziel1983]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/200816/1/phillip-island-motogp-test-times-tuesday-final.html>And Dovi did 342.9 km/h.................</a>

10kph faster than the factory honda down the straight.. Wow.

No doubt helped by the extra fuel ..?

[Shaun Harris]

Certainly wasn't taken today!



haha wonder if it was, FALSE ADVERTISING mmmmmmm Lets make them pay and get the dam MOTPGP show back on free view

[Shaun Harris]

10kph faster than the factory honda down the straight.. Wow.

No doubt helped by the extra fuel ..?





Nothing can really be taken from that test in trems of bike speed and lap times as they were all using such different tyres at different times, and the weather change was huge.

[Crasherfromwayback]

haha wonder if it was, FALSE ADVERTISING mmmmmmm Lets make them pay and get the dam MOTPGP show back on free view

I'll be doing motogp .com regardless.

[Mental Trousers]

I'll be doing motogp .com regardless.

Me too. But unless I can get back into racing for me (don't know the email for password recovery) I won't be seeing WSBK :(

[Oscar]

I'll be doing motogp .com regardless.

Yeah, I renewed.
I told Mike that since I was paying some of his wages, I'm gonna ride his Z1<_<

[Crasherfromwayback]

Me too. But unless I can get back into racing for me (don't know the email for password recovery) I won't be seeing WSBK :(




Yeah, I renewed.
I told Mike that since I was paying some of his wages, I'm gonna ride his Z1<_<

Lol. Yeah good idea mate! Me too.

[Oscar]

Lol. Yeah good idea mate! Me too.

You can ride his TT500.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You can ride his TT500.

Goody. I like them too!

[Shaun Harris]

Goody. I like them too!




brilliant bikes, I purchased one years ago (TT500 G i think, silver and black tank)to learn how to do wheel stands to wipp a dudes arse in my old home town who was brilliant at them.


Haha Robert T witnessed me loop mine one day after way to many xmas beers at the shop he worked in at the time in hawera

[Oscar]

Goody. I like them too!

Check this out:

http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Z1a/i-F3FwqBF/0/M/Z1%20Bentley-M.jpg

[Crasherfromwayback]

Check this out:

[

Lol. Stop it. Like his motor too.

[Shaun Harris]

Check this out:

http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Z1a/i-F3FwqBF/0/M/Z1%20Bentley-M.jpg





PURE SEX on wheels

[denill]

Sommet Sports
33 minutes ago
We have the rights to Moto GP for the next 3 years

[steveyb]

Announce broadcast rights to MotoGP for next 3 years.
Yep, 3 years.
Suck on that SKY TV.

[Shaun Harris]

Announce broadcast rights to MotoGP for next 3 years.
Yep, 3 years.
Suck on that SKY TV.





seriously brilliant!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sommet Sports
33 minutes ago
We have the rights to Moto GP for the next 3 years


Announce broadcast rights to MotoGP for next 3 years.
Yep, 3 years.
Suck on that SKY TV.

Awesome news all round! And suck it indeed Sky.

[Motig]

Just a query re sommet sports - can you get it now on the freeview box or is it just thru the aerial.

[DidJit]

Bit of a stir (http://motomatters.com/news/2014/03/06/motogp_rule_change_imminent_intermediate.html)...

More here (http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/why-the-door-was-left-open-for-ducati/).

[BIG DOUG]

this sport is f**ked,all you want to see is some good racing not two factories dictating what happens,pathetic really.

[Kiwi Graham]

More of the same here http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Mar/140306a.htm

See its not just NZ that have shit fights over rules :shutup:

[Kiwi Graham]

Just a query re sommet sports - can you get it now on the freeview box or is it just thru the aerial.

Just had a chat with Sommet Sports, they will be making an announcement at the end of the month re their channel being made available through the sky decoder :Punk:

[Drew]

I reckon Yamaha and Suzuki should go to 'open'.

Even 9 motors and 22.5 liters of gas is better than now. And it's more in keeping with a grand prix class because they can test and change the bike.

Fuck Honda, they're all gay anyway. Need their ego put in check, and told to shut up and play like everyone else.

[Mental Trousers]

Bit of a stir (http://motomatters.com/news/2014/03/06/motogp_rule_change_imminent_intermediate.html)...

More here (http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/why-the-door-was-left-open-for-ducati/).

Now they're doing a half arsed implementation of what I thought the MotoGP rules should've been in the first place, ie EVERYONE starts on 24 litres and 12 engines and if a rider wins a race they lose a litre and 3 engines until they're down to 21 litres and 6 engines.


Just had a chat with Sommet Sports, they will be making an announcement at the end of the month re their channel being made available through the sky decoder :Punk:

Tumeke :niceone:

[roogazza]

I reckon Yamaha and Suzuki should go to 'open'.

Even 9 motors and 22.5 liters of gas is better than now. And it's more in keeping with a grand prix class because they can test and change the bike.

Fuck Honda, they're all gay anyway. Need their ego put in check, and told to shut up and play like everyone else.

Yes Drew, more engines and MORE fuel ! Bugger this economy trip.
I'm not a fan of race within a race. :confused:

[merv]

Sheesh, handicap racing, who'd a thought?

[Shaun Harris]

The rules were agreed too and written then some one saw a loop hole and good on them for chasing it and getting approval to enter a TRUE factory team in the open class. Boohoo it is seriously not fair nor within the spirit of the rules or sport, but at this level spirit morrels etc do not enter the equation. Personally I would ask Ducati to feild 2 bikes as factory still for this season and let the other 2 do the gynnypig work and get the massive advantages from it for 2015

[BMWST?]

Just had a chat with Sommet Sports, they will be making an announcement at the end of the month re their channel being made available through the sky decoder :Punk:

Sommett reckon they are going digital,as well as UHF.I guess once its digital and free to air it will be available on sky,or any free view satellite box

[pritch]

The rules were agreed too

Except that Dorna are now talking about three classes: factory, open and factory 2. This has not been greeted with acclaim.

[denill]

Except that Dorna are now talking about three classes: factory, open and factory 2. This has not been greeted with acclaim.

They will have to make a rostrum to fit three winners :rolleyes:

[Shaun Harris]

Except that Dorna are now talking about three classes: factory, open and factory 2. This has not been greeted with acclaim.





Which is another bloody Joke. Dorna knew what they were doing in the first place working as close as they obviously have with Ducati on this. How the hell do you change the rules/structure of a world championship after the rules have been written, simply WOW is all I can say Pritch.

PS mate, latest book you gave me is bloody awsome and very interesting thankyou

[pritch]

A little something to learn before the first race?

294609

Where green equals extra soft
White equals soft
Black equals medum
Red equals hard

[pritch]

They will have to make a rostrum to fit three winners :rolleyes:

I didn't particularly like the group "Hot Chocolate" but now I've got that tune "everyone's a winner" stuck in my head.

[roogazza]

They will have to make a rostrum to fit three winners :rolleyes:

Yeah Bill, I've suggested that will be needed lol :crazy:

So , you going to any rounds this year ?
I just confirmed bookings Wednesday for May/June to take in the Italian as usual. :banana::banana:

[denill]

I just confirmed bookings Wednesday for May/June to take in the Italian as usual. :banana::banana:

Good on ya Gaz. That's something to REALLY look forward to :niceone:

[denill]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/200906/1/qatar-motogp-test-times-friday-final.html>Aleix Espargaro - faster than MMs' fastest race lap last year:</A> That's rubbing it in a bit? :msn-wink:

[Metastable]

Why not:
- Spec Tires
- Spec ECU with no traction control or nanny aids.
- No quick shifters
- No ABS

Other than that.... no rules. Turbo, 2-stroke, whatever. I'd expect teams would get to un-manageable HP pretty easily..... so the development of power should be relatively cheap. Then it would be a matter of getting a decent frame, swingarm, etc... which is also expensive, but you take away the huge $$$ of engine development costs and electronics. Might not work.... but it would be nice to see something other than the Honda/Yamaha show which has happened since Suzuki won the 500gp crown (aside from the Stoner "the only guy that could ride a Ducati" blip).