MotoGP 2014

[trev]

"The factories have sophisticated pumps and manifolds for getting every last ounce of fuel out of their tanks, but that technology has stayed with the factories. The Forward Racing tank appears to need at least two liters in the tank just to be safe."
Does this mean the RCV1000R really only has 20 litres available to be used??

[Shaun Harris]

"The factories have sophisticated pumps and manifolds for getting every last ounce of fuel out of their tanks, but that technology has stayed with the factories. The Forward Racing tank appears to need at least two liters in the tank just to be safe."
Does this mean the RCV1000R really only has 20 litres available to be used??




Honda screwed up big time Trev and under built the litre quantity they are allowed to run on the open bikes for some dam reason and I think they have 20.2 liters of space availlable only

[Dave-]

He has cut his own lunch in relation to the Ducati, what was he expecting?

Edwards was always far too critical of the bike to go to Ducati.

Shaun I heard it was 23.00 Litres

[manxkiwi]

ps Bill, Ch 69 Sunday morn Swan series SBK Australia.0930-1130am Speedweek.
Thanks Sommet sports.[/QUOTE]

Nice heads up, didn't see that one. So glad I've got a hard drive recorder with loads of space now.
Cheers.

[denill]

Some surprises (Except MM is flying) but wtf is with JL? :facepalm:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Apr/140411cv.htm

[pritch]

Shaun I heard it was 23.00 Litres

Honda didn't design a tank to the full capacity allowed by the rules (24l?) they said they didn't need to.

Looks like CS won't be at CoTA, he is staying with Ryan Villapoto in Seattle which is about as far away from Texas as you can get and still be in the 'lower 48'. He is going to the next SuperX meet.

[Drew]

Some surprises (Except MM is flying) but wtf is with JL? :facepalm:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Apr/140411cv.htmClearly those times don't mean fuck all. There's a Ducati in the top four.

[Shaun Harris]

Edwards was always far too critical of the bike to go to Ducati.

Shaun I heard it was 23.00 Litres




NH said last week 20.2 mate

[Shaun Harris]

Some surprises (Except MM is flying) but wtf is with JL? :facepalm:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Apr/140411cv.htm




Nothing really wrong with JL, he is only 1/2 off, of second place out write after day one



MM To WIN

VR 2nd

JL 3rd

[Shaun Harris]

What an awsome track this one is, massive veriety of undulations that will show the men from the boys, we all need to buy Sommet sport a heap of Beer

[Shaun Harris]

MM would not wish it anyone, but man this guy has a big get off coming I think, he tries so dam hard all the time I cannot see him getting away with all the time but realy hope he does

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM would not wish it anyone, but man this guy has a big get off coming I think, he tries so dam hard all the time I cannot see him getting away with all the time but realy hope he does

No fucking prob Bro! I watched qual...and the guy had so many front and back end slides that would have most racers on the deck, and he looked like he was having a sunny Sunday picnic. He's a fucking animal! Stopieeeeeee

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[Shaun Harris]

No fucking prob Bro! I watched qual...and the guy had so many front and back end slides that would have most racers on the deck, and he looked like he was having a sunny Sunday picnic. He's a fucking animal! Stopieeeeeee

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He sure was man I was watching myself. No other freak has even been near where this freak is at

[Crasherfromwayback]

No other freak has even been near where this freak is at

Tend to agree.

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[puddytat]

If he doesn't crash or get taken out I reckon we will see him win every race this season.
Wonder what the odds are?
has anyone ever won them all in a season?

[pritch]

No other freak has even been near where this freak is at

It wasn't the stoppie that impressed me so much as when he lost the front end, picked it up with his knee, carried on and still broke the lap record. Again.
Any one of his four fastest laps would have put him on pole.

EsA quiet all the way through practice then qualifies fastest Yamaha. That despite the pressure he must have been feeling after blowing qualifying completely in Qatar.
Only four one thousanths of a second separate the three Yamahas on the second row.

Crutchlow fastest Ducati. Redding fastest production Honda. Smith still has the wood on EsP. Lots to watch.

And Jack Miller on pole in Moto3.

Good coverage from Sommet with FP4 as well as qualifying. I was hoping to see the BTSport crew in action. There was a nice photo of Melanie Sykes in black stockings, bra, and panties on Twitter yesterday. Nick Harris just isn't the same. :yawn:

[pritch]

Thought a pic was needed; found it!

[denill]

Thought a pic was needed; found it!

Thanks Pritch. But who's Melanie Sykes? Any relation to Tom? :drool:

[Mental Trousers]

Melanie Sykes is great to look at but we have to listen to her.

[pritch]

Thanks Pritch. But who's Melanie Sykes? Any relation to Tom? :drool:

Not to my knowledge, she's a presenter for BTSport, the coverage team that Sommet used for Qatar: Heuwen, Ryder, Toseland, Hodson, Emmett... and Sykes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It wasn't the stoppie that impressed me so much as when he lost the front end, picked it up with his knee, carried on and still broke the lap record. Again.
Any one of his four fastest laps would have put him on pole.

:

I agree mate. That's what I was referring to. He's one sick fuck.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If he doesn't crash or get taken out I reckon we will see him win every race this season.
Wonder what the odds are?
has anyone ever won them all in a season?

Nah. There are plenty of tracks that favour the Yamaha's better mid corner speed/lorenzo's incredible talent that'll stop that from happening I reckon mate.

[carbonhed]

It wasn't the stoppie that impressed me so much as when he lost the front end, picked it up with his knee, carried on and still broke the lap record. Again.
Any one of his four fastest laps would have put him on pole.



That was incredible. Was that the one where they cut to Rainey in the pits and he was just shaking his head and laughing?

I was thinking "fuck this is going to get ugly!"... but no... just part of a days work.

[Asher]

A quick google shows she was just a one of those breakfast show presenters.
Not sure why they hired her, sure her big ol fake tits are alright to look at but i find her quite annoying.
Although im hoping B Smith will put something in that annoying mouth of hers by the end of the season.

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article88867.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/mel-sykes-pic-chris-floyd-courtesy-of-esquire-670848299-88867.jpg

[pritch]

That was incredible. Was that the one where they cut to Rainey in the pits and he was just shaking his head and laughing?


Indeed it was. This doesn't do it justice but the top pic gives a hint...

[husaberg]

If he doesn't crash or get taken out I reckon we will see him win every race this season.
Wonder what the odds are?
has anyone ever won them all in a season?

I think Ago won every 350 Gp and Every 500gp in 1968
But the competition was not as fair..........

[pritch]

A quick google shows she was just a one of those breakfast show presenters.


Ummm that's damning with faint praise. According to Wikipedia she has worked in TV and radio for fifteen or more years.

When she copped some flak from the keyboard warriors who didn't like the change to BTSport, she was defended by other commentators as a TV professional who has been doing the job for a long time and wouldn't be there if she was no good. Her northern accent should be easier to understand than Guy Martin's? I would still like to see the BTSport crew in action.

Haven't seen it mentioned here yet but the Russian round has been cancelled this year due to the political situation in the area. It must be close to the Ukraine. Various people commented but Oxley's remark was most interesting, to the effect that the cancellation was a good job because last year corrupt police were robbing the riders as they headed for the airport and home. That little gem didn't get much of a mention previously?

[Dave-]

NH said last week 20.2 mate

I can't find that, everybody is saying 22.2 in the wrap up from Qatar?

[Crasherfromwayback]

That was incredible. Was that the one where they cut to Rainey in the pits and he was just shaking his head and laughing?

I was thinking "fuck this is going to get ugly!"... but no... just part of a days work.

We're lucky enough to be witnessing the 2nd coming of God.

[george formby]

We're lucky enough to be witnessing the 2nd coming of God.

Spent most of last night watching MM vids & motogp classics from 2000 onwards, the last season with 2t's and 4t's on track together was interesting.

Oh, sorry, where was I?

Yes, you could be right. Some unbelievable riding. Moto 3 champ 2010, moto 2 2012, motogp 2013. If I remember from last night.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Spent most of last night watching MM vids & motogp classics from 2000 onwards, the last season with 2t's and 4t's on track together was interesting.

Oh, sorry, where was I?

Yes, you could be right. Some unbelievable riding. Moto 3 champ 2010, moto 2 2012, motogp 2013. If I remember from last night.

Yeah I went to Phillip Island for that seasons round. Was cool as shit to see the diff between them.

Yep. Breaking records no cunt will be able to do for some time I feel.

[george formby]

He looks that small in the vids of him racing as a nipper I'm sure that's a placenta on his head not an helmet.

[carbonhed]

Crutchlow top Ducati. Just thought I'd put that in for the haters :wavey:

Aleix and the Ducati's were using the soft tyre to set a time... right? So their position is deceptive because they won't be using that for the race.

WTF is up with Bautista?

Redding beats Nicky handily.

[merv]

Ben Spies sums it up at the end of this article on Soup, and remembering Spies thought he was tops after beating Mladin in USA http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Apr/140412rydernotes.htm

Sorry Ben, this is MotoGP not DMG Superbike racing. Liked this comment of his in the article "When Casey Stoner or Marc Marquez went past, I had no idea how they could do that stuff."

[merv]

Lol, the boy certainly enjoys the ride, "fun" being the word here http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/202133/1/opening-laps-critical-says-record-polesitter-marquez.html

In the earlier FP4 session Marquez had launched his rear wheel high into the air for a huge 'stoppie' after missing his braking point.

“I was going wide and then when I passed the bump I felt the rear wheel coming up and then I just continued it for fun,” he revealed. “The best line was already gone - I was out of the racing line, so I just tried to continue the rear wheelie!”

[GD66]

If he doesn't crash or get taken out I reckon we will see him win every race this season.
Wonder what the odds are?
has anyone ever won them all in a season?



Surtees in '59, and Ago in '68.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ben Spies sums it up at the end of this article on Soup, and remembering Spies thought he was tops after beating Mladin in USA http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Apr/140412rydernotes.htm

Sorry Ben, this is MotoGP not DMG Superbike racing. Liked this comment of his in the article "When Casey Stoner or Marc Marquez went past, I had no idea how they could do that stuff."

Lol. Don't let Oscar read that mate!

[Dave-]

Is the sommet coverage BT sport? or aussie?

[pritch]

Is the sommet coverage BT sport? or aussie?

Today was the MotoGP coverage (Nick Harris et al).

And the weather forecast is for isolated thunderstorms with a 30 per cent chance of rain.
Which is actually a lower percentage than was previously forecast.

Those emboldened to predict an unbeaten season may have overlooked the vagaries introduced by inclement weather? Although the way MM slides around in the dry, a wet track may not bother him all that much.

[roogazza]

[QUOTE=denill;1130706208]Some surprises (Except MM is flying) but wtf is with JL? :facepalm:

Bill, you got a glass ball ???? :facepalm: badly wanted to make amends for Qatar Huh ?
I haven't heard the after chat but guess a few had tyres woes ?

ps Commentary a lot better in both GP and WSB.

[scrivy]

Marquez on the last corner....... :eek:

[caspernz]

Jorge jumping the start by a mile...:eek5:

[Shaun Harris]

Jorge jumping the start by a mile...:eek5:








Man has JL cost himself Millions in the negotiations for next year in the last 2 rounds with Yamaha

[pritch]

I watched the GP coverage on Sommet, the race didn't reach the dizzy heights and was at best "interesting'. As Shaun says, Lorenzo's brain explosion could cost him millions. Will be interested to read what happened to Rossi, and to Crutchlow before he crashed.

Was pissed off with the commentators who reported that both Smith and Rossi had crashed when they had not. That is something that Steve Martin is hot on in SBK, while Jonathon Green will spout whatever comes into his head. It's slightly worrying that Green was in Texas for the race, I hope he isn't going to do GP commentaries.

Watched the Moto3 and Moto2 races on the 'net, neither had commentary. Not a totally bad thing, but my internal commentary would need more beeps than a Jack Miller interview.

Race of the day Moto3. Shame about the pile up in Moto2.

[Ribit]

Rossi out drove his front tyre. Stuffed the right side of it.
Crutchlow had changed the rear tyre not long before losing it.

JL's got 16 more races to get his shit together but its looking like a one horse (Honda) race for the season so far. If its just going to to be Marquez and Pedrosa leaving everyone one else for dead then its gonna be a boring season....

[scrivy]

I watched the GP coverage on Sommet, the race didn't reach the dizzy heights and was at best "interesting'. As Shaun says, Lorenzo's brain explosion could cost him millions. Will be interested to read what happened to Rossi, and to Crutchlow before he crashed.

Was pissed off with the commentators who reported that both Smith and Rossi had crashed when they had not. That is something that Steve Martin is hot on in SBK, while Jonathon Green will spout whatever comes into his head. It's slightly worrying that Green was in Texas for the race, I hope he isn't going to do GP commentaries.

Watched the Moto3 and Moto2 races on the 'net, neither had commentary. Not a totally bad thing, but my internal commentary would need more beeps than a Jack Miller interview.

Race of the day Moto3. Shame about the pile up in Moto2.

Jonathon Green can move to MotoGP, and leave Steve Martin at WSBK!
Must admit, that MotoGP race was reallllyyyy boring to watch..... :wait:

[carbonhed]

Say what you like about Smith but he doesn't fuck about waiting for an engraved invitation to overtake :laugh:

Crutchlow used to drive me nuts.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Say what you like about Smith but he doesn't fuck about waiting for an engraved invitation to overtake :laugh:

Crutchlow used to drive me nuts.

Yep. I've been a kocker but he's coming along well. Good on him. Crutchlow still does. WTF did he expect when he signed on the dotted line?

[pritch]

I did like this. The two of them wanting the same piece of track late in the race..

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[GD66]

Yep. I've been a knocker but he's coming along well. Good on him




Same here. Great ride. And while we're handing it out, faultless ride by Iannone till the front cried enough. Immaculate.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And while we're handing it out, faultless ride by Iannone till the front cried enough. Immaculate.

Yep. I'd like to see what he could do on a Honda or a Yamaha.

[carbonhed]

Same here. Great ride. And while we're handing it out, faultless ride by Iannone till the front cried enough. Immaculate.

Yeah. Seems like there's a great tide of talent coming through and bugger all good rides to put them on.

[merv]

Yeah, and dopey rules don't help. It wasn't that long ago there were three Repsol Hondas on the grid and Dovi was on one of them, now they can only field two.

As for the production Honda it is definitely doing what it was designed for, just being that bit better than the old CRT bikes. Hayden is sitting 8th on points so far on the "slow dog". Whereas he finished 9th last year, full season, on the factory Ducati.

[Bender]

Yeah. Seems like there's a great tide of talent coming through and bugger all good rides to put them on.

Honda will give Bautista the arse this year - no more factory bike for him. And Bradl is close to being in the same situation. That could free up a couple of rides.

As for Horehay, his brain is gone. He's lost the plot. His general behaviour is not that of a world champion. I fear we are in for a long season of watching the Hondas do a horizon job on the rest, with the Yamahas and satellite teams scrapping over third. :(

[roogazza]

Yeah, and dopey rules don't help. It wasn't that long ago there were three Repsol Hondas on the grid and Dovi was on one of them, now they can only field two.

Yes merv, the handicapping system has closed things up,but we have to factor in 20,22,24ltrs and tyres.
For some reason I thought Smith and Esp were not factory but it seems they are.
Cota,Honda still a favorite,as well as having their freaky little 20 yr old.
Back to better racing next GP I hope. GO VALE!

[Oscar]

Yeah, and dopey rules don't help. It wasn't that long ago there were three Repsol Hondas on the grid and Dovi was on one of them, now they can only field two.

.

What has that got to do with the rules?

[Shaun Harris]

What has that got to do with the rules?



2 bikes per factory team only

[pritch]

There are some clever buggers about and some have been commenting on Jorge's brain explosion. I would normally use the expression brain fart but really that phrase just doesn't do it justice.

From memory:

The ITV highlites package starts in fifteen minutes. If you want to see Lorenzo start, tune in now.

The Argentinian GP is in two weeks. Lorenzo will start tomorrow.

That jump start was so big he almost jumped the Moto2 start as well.


And Colin Edwards on his retirement:

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[pritch]

On a more serious note: Rossi's front tyre.

[Oscar]

2 bikes per factory team only

Dovi left before that rule.

[Oscar]

On a more serious note: Rossi's front tyre.

Holy sheeeeeet!

[Asher]

While it wasn't the most exciting race I still found it really interesting. The BTSport coverage was really good and having Spies in the commentary box was really good, although I wish they wouldn't go on about who is running which tyres so much.
Really impressed with smith, dovi and innonie. Shame about cruchlow breaking his hand and what happened with Alexis? After qualifying 5th I thought he would do alright but JL ended up nearly catching up, speaking of JL I really hope he sorts it put soon, he's screwing up my fantasy league

[pritch]

The BTSport coverage was really good and having Spies in the commentary box was really good

Pray tell where did you get the BTSport coverage? I watched the Sommet coverage of the GP on SKY but got Nick Harris - again.

I'd really like to hear the BTSport team in action.

[Crasherfromwayback]

On a more serious note: Rossi's front tyre.


Holy sheeeeeet!

Hell yeah. Did a fantastic job to even bring it home on that!

[Oscar]

Hell yeah. Did a fantastic job to even bring it home on that!

Are you on the turn?
On the rebound from CS, looking at VR...?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Are you on the turn?
On the rebound from CS, looking at VR...?

Lol. Nah. MM is my BF now silly!

[Mental Trousers]

On a more serious note: Rossi's front tyre.

That's the right side I'm guessing?? The asymmetric rear is harder on the right side but the front isn't asymmetric (the riders don't like the different feel on each side).

[merv]

Dovi left before that rule.

Sharpen up and pay attention we were talking about the lack of good seats for up and coming riders.

Back in 2011 Dovi was on the 3rd Repsol Honda, in 2012 he wasn't offered a job there again because they went down to the two bike team, that's whether they wanted him or not, the boys they kept were Casey and Pedro.

So if there were still more Repsol seats there would at least be another good ride for someone.

[GD66]

That's the right side I'm guessing?


Yes, it was the right side, but on a left-hand circuit that is scary considering he picked a Hard for the front. Must say the old codger is acting much more interested this year. Would like to see what happened to the tyre on Iannone's bike, I thought for a while there he was going to be able to keep Bradl at bay.

[Mental Trousers]

Yes, it was the right side, but on a left-hand circuit that is scary considering he picked a Hard for the front. Must say the old codger is acting much more interested this year. Would like to see what happened to the tyre on Iannone's bike, I thought for a while there he was going to be able to keep Bradl at bay.

Yeah it's a left handed circuit but there's 2 lots of right handers that are extremely punishing on the tyre. There's turn 13-14 (warms the tyre up) and then a very short while later is turns 16-17-18 (tortures the hell out of the tyre which hasn't had time to cool on the right side yet).

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes, it was the right side, but on a left-hand circuit that is scary considering he picked a Hard for the front. Must say the old codger is acting much more interested this year. Would like to see what happened to the tyre on Iannone's bike, I thought for a while there he was going to be able to keep Bradl at bay.

Yeah I think most others went for the xtra hard front mate.

[Asher]

Pray tell where did you get the BTSport coverage? I watched the Sommet coverage of the GP on SKY but got Nick Harris - again.

I'd really like to hear the BTSport team in action.

Torrents. This guy alway uploads them fast http://thepiratebay.se/user/smcgill1969/

[Asher]

Yes, it was the right side, but on a left-hand circuit that is scary considering he picked a Hard for the front. Must say the old codger is acting much more interested this year. Would like to see what happened to the tyre on Iannone's bike, I thought for a while there he was going to be able to keep Bradl at bay.

Redding seemed to blame his crash on this front tyre too

[BMWST?]

Seemed to me jlo went when the red lights came on,not off.At the end of the day they are human,he has just reminded us that he is too

[Oscar]

Seemed to me jlo went when the red lights came on,not off.At the end of the day they are human,he has just reminded us that he is too

I wonder what would have happened if he'd have taken a few others with him.
Amazing prescence of mind from the guys behind and to the side.

[carbonhed]

I wonder what would have happened if he'd have taken a few others with him.
Amazing prescence of mind from the guys behind and to the side.

Smith said that he wasn't even in gear otherwise he probably would have.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Smith said that he wasn't even in gear otherwise he probably would have.

Fuck. He's leaving that a bit late!

[carbonhed]

Fuck. He's leaving that a bit late!

I think JLo went when the first light came on... but I have no idea when your supposed to put it in gear.

[BMWST?]

I think JLo went when the first light came on... but I have no idea when your supposed to put it in gear.

I would be in gear when the red flag Man runs off

[Kiwi Graham]

I would be in gear when the red flag Man runs off

Yep, engage gear as the red flag walks with a we let out of the clutch to ensure first is home and dry

[Crasherfromwayback]

I would be in gear when the red flag Man runs off


Yep, engage gear as the red flag walks with a we let out of the clutch to ensure first is home and dry

Fucking oath!

[Mental Trousers]

Shit, half the time I sit on the grid with the bike in gear the whole time. One less thing to have a problem with as I've been caught before.

[Badjelly]

The factories are being all cooperative and sharing

http://motomatters.com/news/2014/04/15/msma_agree_to_freeze_electronic_developm.html

I like this bit


From that point on, the factories in the MSMA will concentrate their attention on the collaborative effort to develop the standard software to be used by all of the MotoGP bikes from 2016 onwards. Development is to be done via a common portal under the control of Dorna, with all of the factories contributing functionality and code for everyone to review and use.

Hmmm.


if complicated_conditional_that_only_Honda_understand s:
increase_power_by_20_percent

[jasonu]

Seemed to me jlo went when the red lights came on,not off.At the end of the day they are human,he has just reminded us that he is too

Except he is a human that is paid a shit load to not make rookie fuck ups.

[Oscar]

Except he is a human that is paid a shit load to not make rookie fuck ups.

Yeah. it wasn't a small fuck up.
It wasn't a jump start that they have to analyse with the high speed video.
It was a fuck up of galactic proportions...

[Crasherfromwayback]

It was a fuck up of galactic proportions...

Yeah I don't think I can recall ever seeing a worse one or one that bad even.

[Oscar]

Yeah I don't think I can recall ever seeing a worse one or one that bad even.

I used to be the starter for the Hamilton M/Cycle Club.
I never saw owt like that..

[Crasherfromwayback]

I used to be the starter for the Hamilton M/Cycle Club.
I never saw owt like that..

Lol. Me jumping the start of the world superbikes 250 support race on my KR1 was the next worse I've seen... :innocent:

[Oscar]

Lol. Me jumping the start of the world superbikes 250 support race on my KR1 was the next worse I've seen... :innocent:

I was starting a MX race and got hit by the rubber band once (it snapped).
OUCH!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I was starting a MX race and got hit by the rubber band once (it snapped).
OUCH!!!

Lol. Yep. They can be well nasty! My hammy snapped like one of them racing VMX last weekend. Fun.

[BMWST?]

Repeat of at least motogp on Sommet tonight

[Badjelly]

Repeat of at least motogp on Sommet tonight

Moto2 & Moto3 were last night.

[carbonhed]

It was a fuck up of galactic proportions...

:laugh: OK a consensus has emerged.

Maybe Smith was making a racer "in joke" about how early Jorge went.

[pritch]

Maybe Smith was making a racer "in joke" about how early Jorge went.

Quite possibly, it did seem very late. First gear doesn't always just snick in, sometimes it plays hard to get. It'd be seriously embarrassing to be stuck on the grid kicking at the lever increasingly frantically while everyone else took off.

Lorenzo came out with some strange explanations, he complained that the red light came on suddenly instead of being on all the time as happened everywhere else.
This statement was greeted with a collective WTF? He has waited for enough sets of lights to know how they work, and the rules governing them.

After he commented that mosquitos on his visor were the cause of his problem, one of the journos commented that it was lucky he missed the fish in turn one.

Marquez is starting to play head games with Lorenzo and had a couple of verbal shots at him in Texas. After the race MM told the Spanish TV that he made a good start, but not as good as Lorenzo.

[speights_bud]

Quite possibly, it did seem very late. First gear doesn't always just snick in, sometimes it plays hard to get. It'd be seriously embarrassing to be stuck on the grid kicking at the lever increasingly frantically while everyone else took off.

That was me 2 years ago at Paeroa... front group of the classic class (split start). Fucking piece of shit standard Norton 4 speed box, ended up kicking it into second and raping the clutch. Caused me to crash at the hairpin in the 1st race, wouldn't select 1st there either.... :angry2:

[Mental Trousers]

Quite possibly, it did seem very late. First gear doesn't always just snick in, sometimes it plays hard to get. It'd be seriously embarrassing to be stuck on the grid kicking at the lever increasingly frantically while everyone else took off.

That was me 2 years ago at Paeroa... front group of the classic class (split start). Fucking piece of shit standard Norton 4 speed box, ended up kicking it into second and raping the clutch. Caused me to crash at the hairpin in the 1st race, wouldn't select 1st there either.... :angry2:

3 years ago for me. I'd put the bottom fairing back on but it was a bit skewed so that when I pressed the gear lever down it caught the top edge of the fairing and wouldn't engage. Everyone buggered off, I still couldn't get first so grabbed second and gave the clutch arseholes. I was bloody near 20 seconds behind everyone at the first turn. Pissed me off.

[BMWST?]

One of the intetesting things in the motogp race was MM had nearly caught JLO by the end of the first lap

[tbs]

Quite possibly, it did seem very late. First gear doesn't always just snick in, sometimes it plays hard to get. It'd be seriously embarrassing to be stuck on the grid kicking at the lever increasingly frantically while everyone else took off.


Don't you guys remember Marquez doing exactly this near the end of 2012? His bike popped into neutral at the start and he had to fumble for 1st while the whole grid surged past him. He made about 10 places in the first corner and had caught the lead group by the end of lap 2 (or thereabouts). He won.

[tbs]

One of the intetesting things in the motogp race was MM had nearly caught JLO by the end of the first lap

I think he was riding extra hard to catch him and make a point.

[Asher]

Good video of JL blowing the start:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152333556019378

[haydes55]

I think he was riding extra hard to catch him and make a point.



He made the point at lap one, and didn't let off the pace until the last corner.

I think he has a smart move for his riding style choosing the harder tire. He doesn't have to worry about tire degradation and just gives it 100% from start to finish. His early laps set a new lap race record. So obviously the harder tire is still plenty grippy at the start.

Amazing that no one could compete.

[Bender]

What I like most about MM is that he appears to be having fun. Every time he gets on the bike it's "light the fuse time." Even in practise one he carved up Bautista in a corner and never seems to back off.

This has given Rossi a new lease of life - he seems to be trying so much harder - wants to bridge the gap to MM and is also enjoying his racing more.

Seeing MM catch Horhay on the first lap made me think that here is our world champion for the next 5 years at least - perhaps a contender for GOAT. Rossie used to be but the two years at Ducrappy ended all that talk because people realised that the angry little Aussie had it in him to be the GOAT. Muddied the waters, that did.

MM may be spectacular to watch but how long is it going to be before we get bored with him winning races by miles?

Those Hondas looked devastatingly fast. Look how hard Rossi had to ride to stay with them - he trashed his tyre really quickly.

[roogazza]

On a more serious note: Rossi's front tyre.
You could see several pushing hard and moving forward in those first,say 5 laps ?
The end result could have been different for many of them. Anyone know what rubber the Repsol Hondas were wearing on the front ?

It's nice to see Rossi using the front as he used to pre Ducati.

[pritch]

Since that pic of Rossi's tyre appeared on Twitter there have been several similar, notably that of Barbera. Scary.

Stoner did make it to Texas, he must like travel, he was photographed at Spies' restaurant with the proprietor.

Then there is this bit of silliness. Never seen Pedrosa look less intense, not that he should give up his day job...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-If1q-XooM

[Mental Trousers]

Then there is this bit of silliness. Never seen Pedrosa look less intense, not that he should give up his day job...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-If1q-XooM

That's cool. Shows how much the Spanish are into their motorbikes. Put any of the top 5 in this country in the same sort of situation and no one would know who they are.

[Kiwi Graham]

On a more serious note: Rossi's front tyre.

I'm no Dave Moss but that looks like cold tear!? or even under inflation. Cant belive the teams would get that wrong so what has Bridgestone said about it? compound issue??

[pritch]

I'm no Dave Moss but that looks like cold tear!? (snip) what has Bridgestone said about it?

Cold tear was my first thought too, but my knowledge of the subject is not sufficiently comprehensive that I had a second thought. Several of the riders had similar problems though and Redding attributes his crash to the front tyre failure.

I did a fairly thorough search on duckduckgo; lots of tyre previews. Reviews, not so much. The only quote found that was remotely relevant is this from Motomatters:

Masao Azuma - Chief Engineer, Bridgestone Motorsport Tyre Development Division

“Conditions were much cooler today for the race but track conditions were good, which resulted in the race being run at a very quick pace. Only Marquez selected the harder rear slick for the race and it worked well for him, and all three rear slick options were utilised in the race. As expected the whole of the grid selected the medium compound option, yet during the race some riders experienced higher levels of front tyre abrasion than was seen during practice and qualifying. We will now analyse the tyres to work out what were the contributing factors that resulted in the high levels of wear that occurred during the race.”

It's not clear but I read that to say the whole grid used the medium front.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's not clear but I read that to say the whole grid used the medium front.

"Rossi said he chose the hard front Bridgestone, not the extra-hard front, and that perhaps, in retrospect, was a poor choice.

"Maybe we needed the extra hard," he said. "But Yamaha have a problem on the extra hard, so we have to improve, we have to understand why."

[jasonu]

I was bloody near 20 seconds behind everyone at the first turn. Pissed me off.

But did you still win the race?

[Reckless]

Just watched it last night had to wait for my boy to bet back to town.

Well it was a master class by MM.
He can go Hard tyre because the kid can ride/win on anything?
He forcing the others to go for Medium in an attempt to try and keep up. Hes that good. Hence Rossi's front tyre choice.
Perdo cant match him on the same gear, Yamaha cant find the Hondas secret. Best rider, Best bike.
There's talk of all contracts being re negotiated this year. If anything will drive Lorenzo to Honda it will be to compete with MM on an equal footing on the same bike, Food for thought? Might be really good to have a big swap around in the last year of these rules.
Rossi good to see him wanting it so bad this year. I hope he can stick with it he seems to be enjoying his racing.
Dovi, Damn good ride

BUT
Hard to judge when he's on such different gear?
I just have this feeling that the hole MotoGP is such a mess atm?
Bikes with more fuel, different tyres, different electronics its becoming a joke.
Cant wait till 2016 when HOPEFULLY they will be all under the same rules on similar bikes again.
Maybe I have the boring race blues (not as bad as Cruthlow I bet??) they are all getting so desperate mistakes are coming to the forefront.

[BMWST?]

Just watched it last night had to wait for my boy to bet back to town.

Well it was a master class by MM.
He can go Hard tyre because the kid can ride/win on anything?
He forcing the others to go for Medium in an attempt to try and keep up. Hes that good. Hence Rossi's front tyre choice.
Perdo cant match him on the same gear, Yamaha cant find the Hondas secret. Best rider, Best bike.
There's talk of all contracts being re negotiated this year. If anything will drive Lorenzo to Honda it will be to compete with MM on an equal footing on the same bike, Food for thought? Might be really good to have a big swap around in the last year of these rules.
Rossi good to see him wanting it so bad this year. I hope he can stick with it he seems to be enjoying his racing.
Dovi, Damn good ride

BUT
Hard to judge when he's on such different gear?
I just have this feeling that the hole MotoGP is such a mess atm?
Bikes with more fuel, different tyres, different electronics its becoming a joke.
Cant wait till 2016 when HOPEFULLY they will be all under the same rules on similar bikes again.
Maybe I have the boring race blues (not as bad as Cruthlow I bet??) they are all getting so desperate mistakes are coming to the forefront.

Cruthlow knew what he was getting into,he had a good yardstick in his former teammate

[roogazza]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/202260/1/dovi-open-rules-not-behind-ducati-podium.html

With everything so close after the rule changes,I suppose it was on the cards ? But lets see if he can do it again. :shifty:

[Shaun Harris]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/202260/1/dovi-open-rules-not-behind-ducati-podium.html

With everything so close after the rule changes,I suppose it was on the cards ? But lets see if he can do it again. :shifty:




The bike is a lot better but in this case they deff got lucky with him and very unlucky with ianone

[pritch]

"Rossi said he chose the hard front Bridgestone, not the extra-hard front, and that perhaps, in retrospect, was a poor choice.

"Maybe we needed the extra hard," he said. "But Yamaha have a problem on the extra hard, so we have to improve, we have to understand why."

Rossi must have been smoking the electric puha? Extra hard was not available according to Azuma san.

Herewith an interview, but there is more PR speak than answers.
http://motomatters.com/press_release/2014/04/16/bridgestone_press_release_masao_azuma_ad.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi must have been smoking the electric puha? Extra hard was not available according to Azuma san.

Herewith an interview, but there is more PR speak than answers.
http://motomatters.com/press_release/2014/04/16/bridgestone_press_release_masao_azuma_ad.html

Lol. Too many Peronis perhaps!

[pritch]

Lol. Too many Peronis perhaps!

I have bought a doz or two of those Nastro Azura (?sp) when they are on special.
It's not bad.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I have bought a doz or two of those Nastro Azura (?sp) when they are on special.
It's not bad.

Yep. Other than Steinlager, I drink Peroni, Kirin and Kronenberg.

[Shaun Harris]

Yep. Other than Steinlager, I drink Peroni, Kirin and Kronenberg.




Last 2 are my favourites of all time, Steiny when you could buy the brown bottled blue labelled brew, simply a diff fermentation time to the current ex known as export brew.

[Asher]

Apparently this is Reedings tyre :shit::shit:http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/303482/images/front-tyre.jpg

[denill]

Apparently this is Reedings tyre :shit::shit:

Really.... I wouldn't ride to the dairy on that - let alone race.

Bridgestone are just NOT doing it. Perhaps they are too complacent with the single brand rule in place? ;)

[pritch]

On Twitter a day or two ago Mat Oxley was commenting on Jack Miller to the effect that Miller was a very nice kid, a funny guy, so far not at all up himself, as yet unaffected by the dread hand of corporate PR. This to the effect that Miller even extended an invitation to Oxley to ride with him to the track unasked.

I would not own up to being cynical, but the thought occurred that being nice to the press may bring rewards?

And so to this:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/marc-marquez-he-is-playing/

[sil3nt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAVfiM7C2tY

[Shaun Harris]

Apparently this is Reedings tyre :shit::shit:





It sure is Reddings tyre!

[Shaun Harris]

On Twitter a day or two ago Mat Oxley was commenting on Jack Miller to the effect that Miller was a very nice kid, a funny guy, so far not at all up himself, as yet unaffected by the dread hand of corporate PR. This to the effect that Miller even extended an invitation to Oxley to ride with him to the track unasked.

I would not own up to being cynical, but the thought occurred that being nice to the press may bring rewards?

And so to this:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/marc-marquez-he-is-playing/







Exellent link Pritch cheers man. I already forwarded a bit out of it to a Kiwi racer who needs to change one thing imo and he will then be extremelly fast, he is bloody fast already but I am sure there is more to come from him still at less risk to himself than currently. I will not say who out of privacy to him on here though.

But it is to do with his riding style and if I am correct, that will be noted later this year when the season starts again to people who really pay attention and try to steal/addapt other peoples skills by watching closely in detail.

Yes ROBERT, it is who I discussed with you last week at your workshop, and he is listening to this old Koot.

[Shaun Harris]

was there not some talk a while ago about building a small sealed race track at Hampton downs also, or have I miss herd the facts?









EDIT HAHA woops wrong thread

[Brian d marge]

Apparently this is Reedings tyre :shit::shit:http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/303482/images/front-tyre.jpg

Holy hell its almost as bad as my enfield m2 speedmaster

Sent from my SC-01F using Tapatalk

[speights_bud]

I've just got a new PC (ditched the outdated Mac) and want to watch the streamed GP on the Samsung smart tv, aside from running a HDMI or buying a specific 'TV' type box does anyone here do it via their home WiFi network?

I can set up to share media files etc etc (also have a ps3) but to run essentially as a second monitor I haven't come across anyone on Google I can copy yet... Any ideas? or Should I just suck it up and run a HDMI cable through the roof? The computer is not a samsung.

[ecko_nzed]

I've just got a new PC (ditched the outdated Mac) and want to watch the streamed GP on the Samsung smart tv, aside from running a HDMI or buying a specific 'TV' type box does anyone here do it via their home WiFi network?

I can set up to share media files etc etc (also have a ps3) but to run essentially as a second monitor I haven't come across anyone on Google I can copy yet... Any ideas? or Should I just suck it up and run a HDMI cable through the roof? The computer is not a samsung.

I would have thought that the smart TV would have a web browser that you could use to watch via the web. But I'd that is not a goer, I just got a google chromecast, let's me view content from my phone and PC on my older (non-smart) TV via my wireless network, much like apple TV. You can't buy them in NZ, but should be able to get one sent over.

[speights_bud]

I would have thought that the smart TV would have a web browser that you could use to watch via the web. But I'd that is not a goer, I just got a google chromecast, let's me view content from my phone and PC on my older (non-smart) TV via my wireless network, much like apple TV. You can't buy them in NZ, but should be able to get one sent over.

The TV browser doesn't seem to work with the Dorna MotoGP site, neither does the browser on my android tablet or phone. I'm guessing they have designed it deliberately that way as they have their 'live experience app' which is just dots on a map and positions/lap times.

Looks like if I want to do it Via WiFi I might need to go down the Apple tv style setup. Or just get drilling & run the HDMI cable

[ecko_nzed]

Looks like if I want to do it Via WiFi I might need to go down the Apple tv style setup. Or just get drilling & run the HDMI cable

Just beware that hdmi signals drop off over long distances

[speights_bud]

Just beware that hdmi signals drop off over long distances

I think 15m from the Mancave to the bg TV in front of the fireplace should be sweet :cool:

[speights_bud]

I just got a google chromecast, let's me view content from my phone and PC on my older (non-smart) TV via my wireless network, much like apple TV. You can't buy them in NZ, but should be able to get one sent over.


Now Available in NZ:

http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Electronics/Google-Chromecast-HDMI-Streaming-Media-Player/0811571013579?gclid=CIyyxeLv6L0CFc2CvQodk40AsA

[bogan]

I've just got a new PC (ditched the outdated Mac) and want to watch the streamed GP on the Samsung smart tv, aside from running a HDMI or buying a specific 'TV' type box does anyone here do it via their home WiFi network?

I can set up to share media files etc etc (also have a ps3) but to run essentially as a second monitor I haven't come across anyone on Google I can copy yet... Any ideas? or Should I just suck it up and run a HDMI cable through the roof? The computer is not a samsung.

My uncle has that same setup, MGP site player has memory leaks on the TV by the look of it.

Though, now you mention it, it may be possible to do a live stream from the PC screen to the TV using serviio or other DLNA type thingo; will check it out and get back to you.

[bogan]

Now Available in NZ:

http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Electronics/Google-Chromecast-HDMI-Streaming-Media-Player/0811571013579?gclid=CIyyxeLv6L0CFc2CvQodk40AsA

Don't get that, your TV will have it built in.

Can be done just using a wireless DLNA stream, kinda tricky, but better than long HDMI cable I reckon. http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=stream_pc

[rapid van cleef]

I just plug the display port output of my laptop into the hdmi input on the tv via a display port to hdmi apaptor from trade me. cost around 15 bucks.

motogp hd in 55 inch...sweet

its not wireless but i dont care.

[speights_bud]

Don't get that, your TV will have it built in.

Can be done just using a wireless DLNA stream, kinda tricky, but better than long HDMI cable I reckon. http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=stream_pc

Cheers, will do some reading and see if my brain explodes or not :banana:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just beware that hdmi signals drop off over long distances

Who's gonna be buying the beer? Seeing Dovi put it on the box worries me!

[carbonhed]

Who's gonna be buying the beer? Seeing Dovi put it on the box worries me!

:laugh: Yep. Over the last 4 or 5 laps the fastest guy of the three vying for that podium spot was Smith... if his lunge at Bradl had come off who knows... Mind you it was a great recovery from Bradl and Dovi had got the gap.

[Crasherfromwayback]

:laugh: Yep. Over the last 4 or 5 laps the fastest guy of the three vying for that podium spot was Smith... if his lunge at Bradl had come off who knows... Mind you it was a great recovery from Bradl and Dovi had got the gap.

Lol. That was last years bet mate! I didn't dare go there this year.

[BMWST?]

I think smith will show his class this year.Very few show potential to appease the masses in their first season

[carbonhed]

Lol. That was last years bet mate! I didn't dare go there this year.

Typical! Always a year behind the play.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Typical! Always a year behind the play.

Haven't lost a bet with a fellow KB'er yet and hope not to this year either. Although betting Crutchlow won't get a podium this season is looking a bit shakey after Dovi's result. That's what I was referring to mate.

[Crasherfromwayback]

.Very few show potential to appease the masses in their first season

Really? Kenny Roberts. Freddie Spencer. Eddie Lawson. Kevin Schwantz. Wayne Rainey. Mick Doohan. Valentino Rossi. Casey Stoner. Marq Marquez.

[BMWST?]

Really? Kenny Roberts. Freddie Spencer. Eddie Lawson. Kevin Schwantz. Wayne Rainey. Mick Doohan. Valentino Rossi. Casey Stoner. Marq Marquez.

Yes but in relation to overall numbers thats 9 names in nearly 40 years

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes but in relation to overall numbers thats 9 names in nearly 40 years

Lol. I could've named more...but they're the main players. But hey...honestly...good luck to the guy! I hope like hell he gets amongst it. The more the merrier!

[ecko_nzed]

Haven't lost a bet with a fellow KB'er yet and hope not to this year either. Although betting Crutchlow won't get a podium this season is looking a bit shakey after Dovi's result. That's what I was referring to mate.

Have to say that I feeling a bit more confident after Dovi's result. But who knows. Maybe if it rains

[Crasherfromwayback]

Have to say that I feeling a bit more confident after Dovi's result. But who knows. Maybe if it rains

Lol. Maybe his hand will be fucked all season.

[Reckless]

Sorry to be the bringer of the bad news Crasher :(

http://motomatters.com/news/2014/04/17/casey_stoner_i_miss_racing_but_not_enoug.html?utm_ source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MotoGPMatters+%28MotoMatters% 29

[pritch]

Lol. Maybe his hand will be fucked all season.

Apparently the lad has had surgery, this from today,
"Things are not easy sometimes! Trying my best to be ready for Argentina. Hand is very sore and difficult to move at the minute."

On a more cheerful note: BSB Round 1 Live, 23.30 Monday, SKY Sport 3.

H/L packages all over the where...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Apparently the lad has had surgery, this from today,
"Things are not easy sometimes! Trying my best to be ready for Argentina. Hand is very sore and difficult to move at the minute."

..

He's certainly a hard bastard.

[roogazza]

On a more cheerful note: BSB Round 1 Live, 23.30 Monday, SKY Sport 3.


Cheers for that pritch, thought we must be due ?

[Shaun Harris]

next round

VR
JL
DP

Merquez DNF No injury!

[pritch]

On Cruthclow's surgery.

It was reported that he had had surgery to correct compartment syndrome, he responded quickly to say that was incorrect. I then read an article on what actually did happen but can't find it now - so from memory.

Further checks revealed that the finger that had been dislocated at CoTA was also fractured so that was pinned. His arm had also been retaining fluid since his crash at Silverstone last year and basically just kept getting bigger, so that was operated on as well.

While the little finger doesn't do much when riding, apparently the whole hand is swollen and black.

It is still five days until practice in Argentina, and he is a hard bastard, but...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Come on Suzuki...

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2014/04/what-are-you-waiting-for-suzuki-randy-de-puniet-laps-austin-quickly-following-motogp/

[Shaun Harris]

Come on Suzuki...

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2014/04/what-are-you-waiting-for-suzuki-randy-de-puniet-laps-austin-quickly-following-motogp/








And I think Laverty will go quicker on it than RD has been

[Crasherfromwayback]

And I think Laverty will go quicker on it than RD has been

I must say I think it's very pretty!

[Shaun Harris]

I must say I think it's very pretty!







It sure is that man

[bistard]

I didn't realise but young Jack Millar leading the Moto 3 Championship, his Dad is Kiwi!!

[Shaun Harris]

CRUTCHLOW OUT of next round. Would love to see his win or crash arse on the Suzuki next year

[Billy]

I didn't realise but young Jack Millar leading the Moto 3 Championship, his Dad is Kiwi!!

Yip,

Sure is,He works with my son in Palmy,Does that mean we can claim him,You know like Phar Lap,Pavalova ????

[bistard]

Yip,

Sure is,He works with my son in Palmy,Does that mean we can claim him,You know like Phar Lap,Pavalova ????

He'll Yes & we will have the Pavlova back to, while we are at it

[BoristheBiter]

Yip,

Sure is,He works with my son in Palmy,Does that mean we can claim him,You know like Phar Lap,Pavalova ????

we didn't need to claim them, they were already kiwi.

[Shaun Harris]

we didn't need to claim them, they were already kiwi.




small tecnicallity but where was Jack Born?

[BoristheBiter]

small tecnicallity but where was Jack Born?

t'was mean phar lap and pavalova.

But Aussies have never let where something/someone were born be a technicality before.

[denill]

small tecnicallity but where was Jack Born?
If he was born in China would he be Chinese? ;)

[jasonu]

If he was born in China would he be Chinese? ;)

Yes
10 char

[speights_bud]

Goddamnit too hard to get a video uploaded on facebook to arrive here....

I dunno if it'll work

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[Badjelly]

Goddamnit too hard to get a video uploaded on facebook to arrive here....

I dunno if it'll work.

It worked brilliantly. Poor Jorge! :no:

[BoristheBiter]

It worked brilliantly. Poor Jorge! :no:

looks like the pressure is starting to get to him.

All that whining about things that don't matter, I'm sure I've seen that before:wait:

[Reckless]

looks like the pressure is starting to get to him.

I think everyone is? What happens when you beat every one buy 4 secs each race for what looks like its going to be two seasons in a row. There's no answer to him and the Honda ATM. It wont happen but Love to see him give the Yamaha a run? I bet he'd ride the wheels off the bloody thing. MotoGP new rule (might as well have another one aye???) "Mandatory bike swap"

[HenryDorsetCase]

Goddamnit too hard to get a video uploaded on facebook to arrive here....

I dunno if it'll work


worked like a charm. also LOL at "Jack Meehoff"

Thanks for persevering.

I really like Marquez. But its easy to have a good time when you are the best rider on the best bike with the full weight of HRC behind you. Even Dani seemed a bit chipper.

I am trying not to feel sorry for Jorge after spending a few years thinking he is a bit of a dick.

[BoristheBiter]

I think everyone is? What happens when you beat every one buy 4 secs each race for what looks like its going to be two seasons in a row. There's no answer to him and the Honda ATM. It wont happen but Love to see him give the Yamaha a run? I bet he'd ride the wheels off the bloody thing. MotoGP new rule (might as well have another one aye???) "Mandatory bike swap"

Two people for one bike? change at middle of race?
2 man comes to GP:crazy:

[Oscar]

Two people for one bike? change at middle of race?
2 man comes to GP:crazy:

Nah, make a whole lot of those Mamola Ducati things.
Compulsary Pillion!

[BoristheBiter]

Nah, make a whole lot of those Mamola Ducati things.
Compulsary Pillion!

Nah mate, we want something that is going.

[rapid van cleef]

I remember seeing crutchlow interviewed a while back and he suggested every week every rider turns up and rides a different bike from each team. That'll sort out the greats and 'also ran'. Make for a real exciting championship I reckon.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I remember seeing crutchlow interviewed a while back and he suggested every week every rider turns up and rides a different bike from each team. That'll sort out the greats and 'also ran'. Make for a real exciting championship I reckon.

No because the racing is about the best package. the rider is part of it but I love all the techy shit too. I used to be fascinated by the tyre wars, and the different development strategies of the various manufacturers. And as an example Stoner was the only person who could ride the Ducati: but other riders as talented could not. (Mr Rossi for example).

By your logic they should all be on the SAME bike (not at once....) but basically a grid full of the same bike. and to limit costs they should all be from one manufacturer, one tyre and all engines and transmissions sealed including the ECU.

Yay. That would be proper racing where the best man won.

[BoristheBiter]

No because the racing is about the best package. the rider is part of it but I love all the techy shit too. I used to be fascinated by the tyre wars, and the different development strategies of the various manufacturers. And as an example Stoner was the only person who could ride the Ducati: but other riders as talented could not. (Mr Rossi for example).

By your logic they should all be on the SAME bike (not at once....) but basically a grid full of the same bike. and to limit costs they should all be from one manufacturer, one tyre and all engines and transmissions sealed including the ECU.

Yay. That would be proper racing where the best man won.

all teams should have the same rules. the problems is that there just isn't the money, or teams, to go around.
And they should be allowed to choose what ever tyres they want but in today's world money talks.

I used to love the gp and F1 back in the 80's/90's, but when watching schumacker beat everyone by a lap it tends to get a bit boring.
Moto3, moto2 and to some extent A1, is great to watch due to the close racing not for what they are riding/driving, but putting them all on the same bike will not do much for development.

I do still think we are in for a great season.

[rapid van cleef]

Henry, it was not my logic, I was quoting crutchlow. And its not all the same bike either....everyone rides everyones bikes...

But it doesnt matter as its never going to happen so it is irrelevant

[BMWST?]

I think you would find that the same few would be at the pointy end

[eelracing]

Haven't lost a bet with a fellow KB'er yet and hope not to this year either.





Here's one for you all. *If* I mention Stoner vs Rossi one more time this year...I'll shout you all a doz of your choice. Delivered to your door.


Where's me fucken beers!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Where's me fucken beers!!!

Lol. Think you're twisting thing to get free beer. When people said Stoner quit hal way through oa season or threatened to leave if he didn't get his own way I mentioned several people that'd done likewise or worse. I don't see that as a Stoner vs Rossi thing sorry. But I'll shout you some beer next VMX I get to for trying.

[rapid van cleef]

lt would be cool to find out. ON a similar note Jorge asked to ride the NGM bikes and was told no......

[eelracing]

Lol. Think you're twisting thing to get free beer. When people said Stoner quit hal way through oa season or threatened to leave if he didn't get his own way I mentioned several people that'd done likewise or worse. I don't see that as a Stoner vs Rossi thing sorry. But I'll shout you some beer next VMX I get to for trying.

The only twisting goin on around here is you trying to weasel your way out of paying up.
But what else could I expect eh.
like Casey,like fanboi...no fucking bottle.

[BMWST?]

The only twisting goin on around here is you trying to weasel your way out of paying up.
But what else could I expect eh.
like Casey,like fanboi...no fucking bottle.

No bottle?!.Surely you jest.

[puddytat]

Roll on the weekend !!

Its been a few years since an Argy G.P so that'll make it all the more interesting...:yes:
Mark for the win
Rossi
Pedro

Jorge fucks it up....

[pritch]

like Casey,like fanboi...no fucking bottle.

Ooooooooooooooh them's fighting words :drinkup:

[Crasherfromwayback]

The only twisting goin on around here is you trying to weasel your way out of paying up.
But what else could I expect eh.
like Casey,like fanboi...no fucking bottle.

Go back to what my original post was referring to mate. And if you still feel like you've won it fair and square I'll happily pay you out to stop you crying like a bitch. Paying out bets is not something I've ever hidden from. Bottle is something I've never really been short of over the years either. But hey...you're telling the stories eh!


No bottle?!.Surely you jest.

Lol. Never a shortage of 'em round here mate.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The only twisting goin on around here is you trying to weasel your way out of paying up.
But what else could I expect eh.
like Casey,like fanboi...no fucking bottle.

I refer you to posts # 360, 365 and 397. They're all in response to me saying Stoner was a better racer than Rossi...a direct comparison as it were (was). Now I'd like you to show me a post where I've since done so...this one excluded as I'm merely explain things for you.

Your turn.

[roogazza]

Roll on the weekend !!

Its been a few years since an Argy G.P so that'll make it all the more interesting...:yes:
Mark for the win
Rossi
Pedro

Jorge fucks it up....

Looking forward to this one.
I bet Horhay has the Spanish blood at boiling point. Will he control it or go like a maniac ?
The 'Joker' will be his usual self, Rossi will think it out and be right there.
Pedro will pick up the scraps.
I don't know(as usual) it's a guess. :cool:

[Shaun Harris]

I reckon JL is going to take a big pay cut to get his arse on a Honda next year. The way his characture has changed is deff down to Marquez smoking his arse so much and I am sure JL believes that on the same bike he could whip him. Is it pride or MORE money he is now after ie VR

[Bender]

I reckon JL is going to take a big pay cut to get his arse on a Honda next year. The way his characture has changed is deff down to Marquez smoking his arse so much and I am sure JL believes that on the same bike he could whip him. Is it pride or MORE money he is now after ie VR

I agree. MM has certainly got inside Horhay's head and popped a few important brain cells. Honda would be able to afford him if they dump Dani's arse (feel sorry for Pedrosa, he's going to go down in history as one of the unluckiest drivers/riders never to win a world championship).

[trustme]

Why would Honda want Jlo. One raging bull in a china shop you can manage but 2 would be chaos. They would be better with a very strong second tier rider or Pedro rather than Jlo who feels he has a point to prove

[Shaun Harris]

Why would Honda want Jlo. One raging bull in a china shop you can manage but 2 would be chaos. They would be better with a very strong second tier rider or Pedro rather than Jlo who feels he has a point to prove



because he is in top 3 riders currently out there simple as that

[ecko_nzed]

Why would Honda want Jlo. One raging bull in a china shop you can manage but 2 would be chaos. They would be better with a very strong second tier rider or Pedro rather than Jlo who feels he has a point to prove

Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

If he's on a Honda, he can't win on a Yamaha.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Be a brave man that'd bet against MM this weekend I reckon. New track and all. I mean Laguna Seca is supposed to be notoriously hard to learn, and it didn't Stop MM smoking them all first time there. Learnt Texas quicker and better than the rest last year too.

So I'm going MM, Pedro, Rossi, Crazy Joe, Dovi. Lorenzo in the dirt again.

[Shaun Harris]

Be a brave man that'd bet against MM this weekend I reckon. New track and all. I mean Laguna Seca is supposed to be notoriously hard to learn, and it didn't Stop MM smoking them all first time there. Learnt Texas quicker and better than the rest last year too.

So I'm going MM, Pedro, Rossi, Crazy Joe, Dovi. Lorenzo in the dirt again.







It will be super tough for JL with negotiations getting underway haha, bin it or fuck up and he is screwed big time.

I go with MM-VR-JL-DP-ESpar Tech 3-B smith- tech 3 and fek knows

[Crasherfromwayback]

It will be super tough for JL with negotiations getting underway haha, bin it or fuck up and he is screwed big time.

I go with MM-VR-JL-DP-ESpar Tech 3-B smith- tech 3 and fek knows

I'm certainly looking forward to it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Looking forward to this one.
:

Hey Gaz!!!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/9974995/Nigella-gets-special-direction-to-work-in-NZ

[pritch]

If he's on a Honda, he can't win on a Yamaha.

It's win/win for Honda. If they get JL they get a guy who has won two titles and could win more. If they don't get him, Yamaha will have had to spend a few extra million out of the racing budget that won't be available for other things. Not sure if JLs style would suit the Honda though, and HRC won't change it to suit him at the expense of MM.

Suzuki need to sign riders for next year, their manager Davide Brivio is the guy who talked Rossi into switching to Yamaha from Honda, so he can be persuasive.
At this stage of the season though it's hard to see any of the top four moving. But then we've only had two races so far... Roll on Monday.

[Dave-]

but 2 would be chaos

It would be amazing.

[BMWST?]

i think you all writing of JL far too early

[Crasherfromwayback]

i think you all writing of JL far too early

I'm certainly not. Only takes MM to fall off on one of his many practice crashes and break a leg...

[roogazza]

Hey Gaz!!!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/9974995/Nigella-gets-special-direction-to-work-in-NZ

Yeah saw that! :yes:
296492 :drool::drool::spanking:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah saw that! :yes:
:

Lol. Should've known you would have...

[Shaun Harris]

i think you all writing of JL far too early







hell no man I;d never write him off, but boy has he got a battle from hell to deal with as a rider and a buisness man currently due to shit that happens as it has and does.

[BMWST?]

Hey Gaz!!!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/9974995/Nigella-gets-special-direction-to-work-in-NZ

I would give her special directions any time

[Crasherfromwayback]

I would give her special directions any time

To vegemite valley.

[BMWST?]

No to twin peaks

[Shaun Harris]

Marqeuz sure is a sick puppy, 2 seconds faster than VR and JL :doh:

[Shaun Harris]

Both Dovi and Iannone lost engines today. When was the last time a manufacturer had two engine failures in the same session? They have them stressed to the max obviously to take advantage of the rules

[pritch]

Random thoughts.

Tyres were a problem in practice. Marquez only got three fast laps on one tyre, but one of those was the fastest lap.

Rossi said he hopes the temperature will be 10 degrees higher tomorrow to make the tyres last longer. Also as the track surface improves so the tyres will perform better, but whether they will last race distance is the question.

News that the MotoGP video pass is no longer available in Italy or Spain. No explanation has been given as yet, but I think that it's to do with the return of Movistar to GP sponsorship? That and the fact that SKY italy, along with Rossi's merchandising company VR46, sponsor Fenati and Bagnaia? Maybe Dorna gave Movistar and Sky Italy the sort of deal SKY here were reportedly looking for. Maybe it's just as well SKY NZ aren't sponsoring anybody...

Jack Miller has won two consecutive GPs. Apparently even Stoner didn't manage that when he was on 125s.

In Argentina you don't leave anything lying around or it will disappear. ESa had his bag stolen, lost everything in it except his passport.

The track is in a poor rural area of Argentina but the sleepy local town is waking up as thousands of motorcyclists move in. The joint is predicted to be jumping by Saturday night.
Love the idea of those Argentinian barbecues.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Marqeuz sure is a sick puppy, 2 seconds faster than VR and JL :doh:

Certainly good at learning new tracks quickly eh!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Love the idea of those Argentinian barbecues.

Sounds like it'd be an awesome GP to go to...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Apr/140425rydernotes.htm

[pritch]

Anyone for barbecue? Almost enough to get me looking up Aerolinus to check fares. Almost :whistle:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Anyone for barbecue? Almost enough to get me looking up Aerolinus to check fares. Almost :whistle:

There's a restaurant in town here that cooks 'em like that right in front of you.

[pritch]

There's a restaurant in town here that cooks 'em like that right in front of you.

What's the name of that establishment please? I'm in preliminary stages of planning a trip to Wellington and will add that to the list of things I'd like to do.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What's the name of that establishment please? I'm in preliminary stages of planning a trip to Wellington and will add that to the list of things I'd like to do.

Here be it my good man. Make sure you add beer at Pete's to the list. Owe you some.


http://www.menumania.co.nz/restaurants/el-matador-asador-grill-tapas-bar-wellington/media/38692

[pritch]

Here be it my good man. Make sure you add beer at Pete's to the list. Owe you some.

http://www.menumania.co.nz/restaurants/el-matador-asador-grill-tapas-bar-wellington/media/38692

Thanks for that. Hopefully a visit to you was on the schedule, liquid refreshments will depend on the time of day. If it's at your job, I'll bring the coffee :-)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thanks for that. Hopefully a visit to you was on the schedule, liquid refreshments will depend on the time of day. If it's at your job, I'll bring the coffee :-)

I can dish out beers at work if need be. I just can't join in is all. :-)

[Shaun Harris]

I can dish out beers at work if need be. I just can't join in is all. :-)






ha Ive never bought a bike pissed before,I will have to come and see ya

[pritch]

ha Ive never bought a bike pissed before,I will have to come and see ya

Yeah, I'd be worried about coming away with a Nightrod that I didn't really need.

Meanwhile back in Argentina, Marquez on pole, Lorenzo, and Pedrosa complete the front row.
EsA, Dovi, and Rossi row 2.

It would seem commentators need to be careful when discussing tyre choices, which will again be critical for this race.
Much mirth was occasioned by Keith Heuwen's comment, "Brad's got a hard on".

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, I'd be worried about coming away with a Nightrod that I didn't really need.

It would seem commentators need to be careful when discussing tyre choices, which will again be critical for this race.
Much mirth was occasioned by Keith Heuwen's comment, "Brad's got a hard on".

Everybody needs a Nightrod mate!

And yeah...did a Murray Mexted eh!

[ecko_nzed]

I think this is a better visual representation of qualifying


Meanwhile back in Argentina, Marquez on pole........................, Lorenzo, and Pedrosa complete the front row.
.................................................. ........................................EsA, Dovi, and Rossi row 2.

The margin with which he is dominating got me wondering if Marquez could put a production Honda on the 2nd or 3rd row in qualifying?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think this is a better visual representation of qualifying


Meanwhile back in Argentina, Marquez on pole........................, Lorenzo, and Pedrosa complete the front row.
.................................................. ........................................EsA, Dovi, and Rossi row 2.

The margin with which he is dominating got me wondering if Marquez could put a production Honda on the 2nd or 3rd row in qualifying?

Fuck yeah. Last season I thought if Stoner was still there he may've given him a go. Pity we'll never know. This season, now MM has learnt the intricacies of a moto GP bike he'd get his arse handed to him on a plate just like the rest. This guy is a fucking freak. He'll make the race for 2nd place interesting though.

[Shaun Harris]

Young Marquez to partener M Marquez in MOTOGP in 2015 is my wild prediction

[Crasherfromwayback]

Man. How were those first few laps!

[Shaun Harris]

Man. How were those first few laps!






like the 500cc days, ianone is really on it, and Bradl is a wanker

[sil3nt]

Man. How were those first few laps!Yeah shame about the rest of the race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah shame about the rest of the race.

Yeah pity it wasn't like that for the whole race for sure. Some good dices going on through the pack though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

like the 500cc days, ianone is really on it, and Bradl is a wanker

I thought they were all giving as good as they got.

[roogazza]

Man. How were those first few laps!

Pretty busy wasn't it ? The track seems so wide and the kamakasi braking attempts rife !

Bradle upset Vale back to 7th :devil2:

[Bender]

Those first few laps were incredible and I'm sorry both Dani and Rossi got left behind for one reason or another. Rossi was riding well but he has to learn to stay on line.

Could Dani have pushed MM if he didn't have the ground to make up first - I reckon he could have.

Good to see Horhay riding so well, but it also looked like his bike had gone off for the latter part of the race. Honda definitely have the goods over Yamaha this year - those things are blindingly quick.

[Oscar]

Those first few laps were incredible and I'm sorry both Dani and Rossi got left behind for one reason or another. Rossi was riding well but he has to learn to stay on line.

Could Dani have pushed MM if he didn't have the ground to make up first - I reckon he could have.

Good to see Horhay riding so well, but it also looked like his bike had gone off for the latter part of the race. Honda definitely have the goods over Yamaha this year - those things are blindingly quick.

Yeah, I was thinking that it was MM not the Honda, but Dani was flying in the last part of the race.
It was a pity that Bradl ran Rossi wide.

[mulletman]

Shame the aussie got pushed wide in Moto3..

[Crasherfromwayback]

.
It was a pity that Bradl ran Rossi wide.

The old geezer was certainly trying pretty hard eh!

[pritch]

Pretty busy wasn't it ? The track seems so wide and the kamakasi braking attempts rife !

Bradle upset Vale back to 7th :devil2:

The track is wide but only the racing line was usable, the rest of the track "was like ice".

I enjoyed the moto3 race, felt bad for Miller but he and Fenati done good. Fenati got a one point penalty slap, fair enough, it didn't change the result but told him he was naughty.

We didn't see it but Low had a good ride from 22nd or thereabouts up to eighth after a footrest speared him through the ankle prior to the race.

And we only have to wait until Friday for it all to kick off again - if the bikes get there on time...

[Robert Taylor]

Those first few laps were incredible and I'm sorry both Dani and Rossi got left behind for one reason or another. Rossi was riding well but he has to learn to stay on line.

Could Dani have pushed MM if he didn't have the ground to make up first - I reckon he could have.

Good to see Horhay riding so well, but it also looked like his bike had gone off for the latter part of the race. Honda definitely have the goods over Yamaha this year - those things are blindingly quick.

And if Jorge was on one of those awful Hondas he would be winning more races than the choirboy.

[roogazza]

The track is wide but only the racing line was usable, the rest of the track "was like ice".

And we only have to wait until Friday for it all to kick off again - if the bikes get there on time...

Yes, read about the dirty track. Now off to Jerez huh !
Times flying by,I move in two weeks,get settled and fly out for Rd.6.
Must make sure she knows how to work the "Ride on". !!!!! :laugh:

[eelracing]

And if Jorge was on one of those awful Hondas he would be winning more races than the choirboy.

Yeah nah 3 wins from pole in the opening rounds of the season and the kid hasnt even raised a sweat yet.
What with Lorenzo and Yamahas mid corner dominance now a long distant memory all he can hope for is Pedrosa to find some early race aggression:zzzzwont be holding my breath tho.

Interesting to see MM was peeling off 2 or 3 degrees more max lean while stalking Jorge too.

[Reckless]

Damn good race from start to finish!
We all expected the MM show but for Pedro to run down Lorenzo and pass him, thats not good for Yamaha?
I must say MM is showing great maturity none of the antic's we all saw in Moto2, I reckon he just paced himself all the way through even after a bad start.
Looks like the best of the rest is where the racing is going to be.
Lorenzo wants to be on a Honda I'd guess and Rossi will stay because he prob thinks he's going the best the bike can go?

[Mental Trousers]

What with Lorenzo and Yamahas mid corner dominance now a long distant memory all he can hope for is Pedrosa to find some early race aggression:zzzzwont be holding my breath tho.


He's riding completely differently to what he was. His riding style has come a long way and now he's really starting to look like he could challenge the kid. Although MM looks like he might just be having fun and something left if he is challenged.

Riding the kerbs is becoming more and more important. The Honda's can do it but the Yamaha's reliance on mid corner speed means they're having big problems doing it.


Interesting to see MM was peeling off 2 or 3 degrees more max lean while stalking Jorge too.

Maybe there is an advantage to having your elbow on the ground

[BoristheBiter]

Maybe there is an advantage to having your elbow on the ground

It seems to help pick the bike up if you lose the front mid corner.:eek:

[Banditbandit]

Pedrosa and Lorenzo must be pissed - both think they have a good chance at being champion and along comes this fucking Spanish kid and wipes the floor with them ...

[Reckless]

here's what the yamaha riders are saying.

Lorenzo led for 16 laps after making one of his trademark starts, putting in some impressive early lap times as rivals Marc Marquez and Dani Pedrosa got caught up in the crowd in the opening stages.

Lap 17 eventually saw Marquez take the lead from Lorenzo who was then defending second place until the penultimate lap. As Pedrosa passed Lorenzo the latter appeared to decide it was best to secure third rather than battle for second.

On his podium return Lorenzo acknowledged, “This is probably the most sweet third position of all my career. We showed that even not in our best moment we can fight with these guys. We must keep pushing. Pedrosa was so strong at the end of the race, I was very tired and I tried my hardest to stay in second place. I decided to stay third and finish the race.”

He added, “This year is more difficult than every other year because of the engine freeze, but we can still improve the electronics and the chassis. I can also improve my riding style and with the mechanics.”

On his fourth place finish, Rossi added, “I had the potential and the pace to end on the podium and especially to fight with the three guys in front.”

“Unfortunately in the first laps I made a mistake and lost a bit, but the place I really lost out was when Stefan Bradl made a mistake. He arrived too deep in braking and he pushed me out of the track and I lost two seconds on that lap and so missed the podium.”

[pritch]

It wan't easy to see it coming in advance, but the game has moved on. The aliens, including Stoner I believe, have been left behind. If, however, Marquez learns that he is not in fact immortal, things may slow down to where the others can compete again.

Short of that we will have to wait until a new generation of riders come through, young guys who have been brought up to regard what Marquez is doing as "normal".

[Reckless]

It wan't easy to see it coming in advance, but the game has moved on. The aliens, including Stoner I believe, have been left behind. If, however, Marquez learns that he is not in fact immortal, things may slow down to where the others can compete again.

Short of that we will have to wait until a new generation of riders come through, young guys who have been brought up to regard what Marquez is doing as "normal".


Agreed MM rides/slides like Stoner (but faster) and has a large streak of Simonchelli in him when the going gets rough.

[carbonhed]

Short of that we will have to wait until a new generation of riders come through, young guys who have been brought up to regard what Marquez is doing as "normal".

Reckon we should start passing the hat around to get "Crazy Joe" on a good bike. I suspect he'd like nothing better than inserting MM into the air fence fairly regularly :laugh:

Other than that we could just sit back and watch the awesomeness.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Reckon we should start passing the hat around to get "Crazy Joe" on a good bike. I suspect he'd like nothing better than inserting MM into the air fence fairly regularly :laugh:

Other than that we could just sit back and watch the awesomeness.

Yeah I'm liking what I'm seeing there.

[Kendog]

Could Dani have pushed MM if he didn't have the ground to make up first - I reckon he could
No chance I think. MM would simply have gone quicker if he needed to.
He is developing into a great rider, managing races from the front or making up places to win the race.

We could be watching a legend in the making.

[Crasherfromwayback]

No chance I think. MM would simply have gone quicker if he needed to.
He is developing into a great rider, managing races from the front or making up places to win the race.

We could be watching a legend in the making.

Yeah seeing how he's dominated qualifying nearly ever session at every track so far...and by quite some margin...think we're entering a new phase of kick arseness. Doohan and Rossi type of kick arseness.