MotoGP 2014

[Drew]

Hope he doesn't go Suzuki in superbikes. I'd hate to have to support him.

[BMWST?]

Rdp has had his day imho.At one time he was one of my favourites,but he has never delivered to his potential,again imo

[Drew]

Rdp has had his day imho.At one time he was one of my favourites,but he has never delivered to his potential,again imoI'm with you.

Was it Melandri that rode the Kawasaki with virtually no sign writing in GP it's final year, can someone tell me? I've never been a fan of the guy (in the proper sense of the word), but it was impressive to see him ride with zero fucks given.

I ask because it is what Depunet lacked every time I remember him riding. The ability to just commit and chuck a bike around.

[steveyb]

A potted history.

Wikipedia eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Racing

That year with Melandri is still their best year in MotoGP.
He is one of my faves.

[pritch]

Melandri blows hot and cold and has his brain explosions. Like an all or nothing, do or die, last lap, last corner passing attempt - on lap 2.

Loved this though, was there that day, and that was on a damp track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8KtdsM7nY4

[BMWST?]

Melandi has to have confidence in the front grip,its why he could never push the understeering duc,see hoq he has progressed with the aprilia in wsbk,now he has confidence in the front he is pushing it
Rdp was good on the 250s but inconsistent even then

[roogazza]

So, who's willing to bet BS is already on the bus ???
http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/207003/1/herve-poncharal-tech-3-qa.html

[Badjelly]

So, who's willing to bet BS is already on the bus ???
http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/207003/1/herve-poncharal-tech-3-qa.html

Herve is generally very loyal to his riders (and very good at managing & supporting them I think), but he sounds a bit lukewarm about Bradley in that interview. So, yes, definitely on the bus.

[pritch]

We'll Randy didn't win Suzuka, he was overtaken not long before the finish. Winning riders:
Takumii, VanderMark, Haslam.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Melandri blows hot and cold and has his brain explosions. Like an all or nothing, do or die, last lap, last corner passing attempt - on lap 2.

Loved this though, was there that day, and that was on a damp track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8KtdsM7nY4

I too was right there. Great work wannit!

[jasonu]

I too was right there. Great work wannit!

and I bet you still have wood from seeing it live.

[Drew]

When I saw it well after the fact, I was inspired to see if my K2 gixxer thou would do it. Short answer. Yes. But I never got game enough at it to get the back bag smoking.

[Crasherfromwayback]

and I bet you still have wood from seeing it live.

Yep. Tis truly one of those things that gets burnt right into the old memory banks never to be lost!

[Shaun Harris]

Yep. Tis truly one of those things that gets burnt right into the old memory banks never to be lost!






My best Grand Prix memory comes from a few Brazillian women when I was managing a 250gp team years back- DAM, I neally fired again thinking about them, they loved the big 40ft motor home, O, and getting very Drunk with Kevin S one time. Name dropping maybe, but Im proud to have done it with such a hero as him

[Reckless]

Two Podiums?? Cal cant even ride the bloody thing? Hoping for rain? Calls it a good season????

Doesn't Sound very Positive to me???

Ciabatti: "Big improvement for GP14 in second part of season"

Ciabatti Halfway Ducati 2014
2014 - MotoGP - Half Season Interview - Paolo Ciabatti
Tuesday, 29 July 2014
Following numerous ups and downs for the Ducati Team in the first half of the 2014 season, motogp.com caught up with the Italian manufacturer’s MotoGP Project Director Paolo Ciabatti to gauge his opinion on the year so far.
He commented: “It has been quite a good season in terms of results because we’ve had two podium finishes. Dovi was third in Austin and second a couple of weeks ago in Assen. So scoring some good results and is actually standing fourth in the championship, which is good.

“On the other side, Cal had a lot of bad luck with technical problems, with the crash. And also his feeling with the bike is not so good at the moment, so we are trying to help him to understand better the bike and show his potential, because we think Cal is a great rider, but so far he hasn’t really been able to show that he can ride fast a Ducati.”

Much talk had been about the improvements on the notoriously tough-to-handle Desmosedici since the arrival of technical guru Luigi Dall’Igna.

“Gigi joined the company last year in Valencia, so at the beginning of November. So obviously the GP14 was basically already designed as a bike. But Gigi brought some ideas, we made a lot of changes, some changes we can no really see on the bike…but also working on software, and other features of the bike. The bike has improved.

“Obviously we still have this under-steering problem, and probably to solve that we need to work a little bit harder in terms of engine design and position of engine in the frame. It’s not up to me to say exactly what we should do. We’re both working on the new bike, the GP15 for next year, but we will bring also a big improvement on the GP14 in the second part of the season.”

With regards to his expectations for the second half of the year, Ciabatti concluded: “On some tracks I think we can be quite competitive, also in dry conditions. Obviously we will not be so sad if it’s raining on a Sunday, because our bike has proven to be quite competitive in rainy conditions. And as far as Cal is concerned obviously we want to help him get the confidence on the bike because we know once he can get the confidence he will push hard and will be close to the other riders.”

[pritch]

A journo once asked Burgess a question that implied a superior quality of the Ducati. JB in reply pointed out that to remove a wheel on the Ducati involved several additional fasteners, the nett result of that was that Ducati could do one less wheel change per practice session than the Yamaha.

It would now seem the "quality" problems went beyond that. Then there were the ego problems.
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/the-problem-at-ducati/

[DidJit]

Insightful piece, that.

[Mental Trousers]

Great article that one.

I've always believed that there were 2 things Ducati had to fix before they could create a bike that would win. They are

change management
change the attitude in key positions


Audi bought Ducati and after a short while realized things weren't changing and the person they had in there wasn't the right man for the job so they hired Gigi. He seems to be working very well with the crew at the track, but it's the designers and engineers attitudes that need to be changed.

The GP15 will be very interesting as we'll get an idea of just how much things have changed.

[roogazza]

I thought if anyone could get some changes it would have been Rossi, for who he is and being Italian.
They did do a few changes in frames etc but not that much that showed in results.
Now,it looks like things may be moving forward. Hope it goes good for them in 2015 and for Dovi.

[Asher]

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-moto-gp/ktm-ceo-confirms-entry-into-2017-motogp/25345.html

And if Aprillia joins too we may finally have a decent sized competitive field

[DidJit]

Cal’s on the move next season (http://www.lcr.mc/eng/news/2014/cal-crutchlow-to-ride-with-cwm-lcr-honda-in-2015_ID_3_IDa_12094.htm). Riders for Ducati will be Dovizioso and Iannone (http://www.ducati.com/racing/motogp/news/ducati_corse_and_cal_crutchlow_terminate_contract_ ahead_of_2015/2014/08/02/1704/index.do?urlBack=%2Fracing%2Findex.do%23filter%3D. all).
Wonder what Bradl’s gonna do next year... Forward Racing?

[roogazza]

Cal’s on the move next season (http://www.lcr.mc/eng/news/2014/cal-crutchlow-to-ride-with-cwm-lcr-honda-in-2015_ID_3_IDa_12094.htm). Riders for Ducati will be Dovizioso and Iannone (http://www.ducati.com/racing/motogp/news/ducati_corse_and_cal_crutchlow_terminate_contract_ ahead_of_2015/2014/08/02/1704/index.do?urlBack=%2Fracing%2Findex.do%23filter%3D. all).
Wonder what Bradl’s gonna do next year... Forward Racing?

Hell DidJit, He'll be spewing if Doocarti come out fighting with the new bike and Iannone kicks his arse.
But hey, Iannone does that now ! :facepalm:

[Shaun Harris]

Cal’s on the move next season (http://www.lcr.mc/eng/news/2014/cal-crutchlow-to-ride-with-cwm-lcr-honda-in-2015_ID_3_IDa_12094.htm). Riders for Ducati will be Dovizioso and Iannone (http://www.ducati.com/racing/motogp/news/ducati_corse_and_cal_crutchlow_terminate_contract_ ahead_of_2015/2014/08/02/1704/index.do?urlBack=%2Fracing%2Findex.do%23filter%3D. all).
Wonder what Bradl’s gonna do next year... Forward Racing?







That is a bombshell

[Drew]

That is a bombshell

I don't think so. The self absorbed loud mouth is just trying to keep a pay cheque coming in as long as possible. He's never gonna win a race, and was only gonna get one more year out of Ducati because he kept slagging it.

[BMWST?]

So what is happening with Bradl?

[Shaun Harris]

I don't think so. The self absorbed loud mouth is just trying to keep a pay cheque coming in as long as possible. He's never gonna win a race, and was only gonna get one more year out of Ducati because he kept slagging it.





He loves you also, man you hate it when people are actually fast on motorbikes eh, guess you may learn how to be one day

[Drew]

He loves you also, man you hate it when people are actually fast on motorbikes eh, guess you may learn how to be one day

He has made a cunt of himself, was my point.

I think it's funny that you imply my distaste for you has anything to do with talent. You weren't all that, and now you're fuck all. Three titles at IOMTT, counts for nothing when it comes to circuit racing.

[Shaun Harris]

He has made a cunt of himself, was my point.

I think it's funny that you imply my distaste for you has anything to do with talent. You weren't all that, and now you're fuck all. Three titles at IOMTT, counts for nothing when it comes to circuit racing.





True Drew, I always was a pussie on closed circuit racing

[Drew]

True Drew, I always was a pussie on closed circuit racing

You're a no body man. I don't like you because you're a lying, thieving, con artist. Couldn't give a rat's arse if you're better on a bike than me. Fuck off and kill yourself already.

[Shaun Harris]

You're a no body man. I don't like you because you're a lying, thieving, con artist. Couldn't give a rat's arse if you're better on a bike than me. Fuck off and kill yourself already.




good at it though eh

[pritch]

That is a bombshell

It was indeed. Apparently last week's cover story and interview in MCN was Crutchlow saying why he was staying with Ducati. Ducati had also announced that he was staying, so I wonder if we'll ever find out what changed. Crutchlow posted a couple of chirpy messages on Twitter last night but nothing informative that I've seen yet.

Drew doesn't like the fact that CC was slagging off the bike, but he sure 'nuff had plenty reason. In his experience it was not just unrideable, it must have seemed like an unreliable heap of crap.

[Drew]

It was indeed. Apparently last week's cover story and interview in MCN was Crutchlow saying why he was staying with Ducati. Ducati had also announced that he was staying, so I wonder if we'll ever find out what changed. Crutchlow posted a couple of chirpy messages on Twitter last night but nothing informative that I've seen yet.

Drew doesn't like the fact that CC was slagging off the bike, but he sure 'nuff had plenty reason. In his experience it was not just unrideable, it must have seemed like an unreliable heap of crap.

He slagged off the Yamaha when he rode that, and Honda are morons if they think he won't bitch about the Showa and Nissin gear.

However, if he could accept that he doesn't have the skill to be a winner in the class, he might just become a lot more likeable.

[pritch]

He slagged off the Yamaha when he rode that, and Honda are morons if they think he won't bitch about the Showa and Nissin gear.

However, if he could accept that he doesn't have the skill to be a winner in the class, he might just become a lot more likeable.

LCR weren't running Showa/Nissen were they? I understood that it was only Bautista who was stuck with that.

This seems to be about as much information as is available so far, basiically it seems Honda didn't want Bradl?
http://www.gpone.com/en/2014080114322/Cecchinello-calls-Crutchlow-at-Honda.html

[Drew]

LCR weren't running Showa/Nissen were they? I understood that it was only Bautista who was stuck with that.

This seems to be about as much information as is available so far, basiically it seems Honda didn't want Bradl?
http://www.gpone.com/en/2014080114322/Cecchinello-calls-Crutchlow-at-Honda.html

I thought it was the satellite bikes too. I'm probably wrong.

[pritch]

Ya gotta laugh though.

[Shaun Harris]

Bradl bike is full factory spec

[pritch]

LCR publish one of the slickest magazines in motorcycling "Inspire".

Go on it's Sunday, y'all got time:
http://www.lcr.mc/inspire.htm

[Drew]

Bradl bike is full factory spec

Yep, wearing the Honda owned suspension and brakes, no? Showa and Nssin.

[roogazza]

I don't think so. The self absorbed loud mouth is just trying to keep a pay cheque coming in as long as possible. He's never gonna win a race, and was only gonna get one more year out of Ducati because he kept slagging it.
I wonder how much money is paid upfront to these guys or if it's a race by race plus bonus thing.You know,when they say he signed for a million or whatever ?
Would Duc actually pay CC to fuck off ??/ or they both call it quits ?

[Shaun Harris]

Yep, wearing the Honda owned suspension and brakes, no? Showa and Nssin.






I thought his was full factory spec ie Ohlins an Brembo as in the factory bikes

[Drew]

I wonder how much money is paid upfront to these guys or if it's a race by race plus bonus thing.You know,when they say he signed for a million or whatever ?
Would Duc actually pay CC to fuck off ??/ or they both call it quits ?

After both parties publicly announced the second year on the bike, I've got no idea how it went down. Seems fucken strange to me.

[Shaun Harris]

I wonder how much money is paid upfront to these guys or if it's a race by race plus bonus thing.You know,when they say he signed for a million or whatever ?
Would Duc actually pay CC to fuck off ??/ or they both call it quits ?





for the big boys normally up front payment + Bonus pay outs, not race by race as injury can happen and the team wears that

[Shaun Harris]

After both parties publicly announced the second year on the bike, I've got no idea how it went down. Seems fucken strange to me.




Im guessing they were happy to release him knowing the negative vibes he would fill the pits with if he was made to stay and that would have a negative spin off on the entire team

[Drew]

Im guessing they were happy to release him knowing the negative vibes he would fill the pits with if he was made to stay and that would have a negative spin off on the entire team

Dropping him makes sense, but not after announcing a continued ride for him.

I will make a cheeky prediction. I think he found out what next years bike was like, and changed his mind. So I don't think Ducati fans (deluded cunts that they are) whould get their hopes up.

[pritch]

I will make a cheeky prediction. I think he found out what next years bike was like, and changed his mind. So I don't think Ducati fans (deluded cunts that they are) whould get their hopes up.

From what little we've seen so far I suspect Livio Suppo may be behind this. Honda decided they didn't want Bradle and it gained momentum from there.
Crutchlow's contract was a two year deal with the option to leave after one year.

About Showa/Nissin: Gresini was the only team running those. Although this article appears to be translated from Italian and doesn't quite make sense, the second and final paragraphs provide a clear enough picture.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/203982/1/redding-unlikely-to-test-bremboohlins-in-2014.html

[denill]

After both parties publicly announced the second year on the bike, I've got no idea how it went down. Seems fucken strange to me.

And that indicates it was CC who jumped and wasn't pushed.

[merv]

I'm surprised Honda wanted Cal at all, but we don't know what Dorna is doing in behind to keep a Pom in the series - its always about money eh!

[pritch]

I'm surprised Honda wanted Cal at all, but we don't know what Dorna is doing in behind to keep a Pom in the series - its always about money eh!

We can assume that Dorna would want a German in the series too, they've kept a German who was past his use by date previously.

Be interesting to see how this works out. Trouble is we have to wait until next year.

Silly season must be coming to a close, there's not many rides undecided now. The Forward Racing team and Jack Miller seem to provide the major remaining questions.

[Shaun Harris]

I'm surprised Honda wanted Cal at all, but we don't know what Dorna is doing in behind to keep a Pom in the series - its always about money eh!




The new team sponsor is a British company

[roogazza]

The new team sponsor is a British company

Ah ha ! Poms badly want another Sheene so I've read before.
Someone else maybe,not Smith or CC for my money.
I did hear a few praising Redding at the last GP, but he doesn't seem to be in the chat rooms so much lately.
Someone from WSB maybe, Little Johnny Rea ???

[jasonu]

I don't think so. The self absorbed loud mouth is just trying to keep a pay cheque coming in as long as possible. .

What is wrong with that. He is probably knows buggar all else after bike racing to earn a crust so make hay while the sun shines etc.

[Drew]

What is wrong with that. He is probably knows buggar all else after bike racing to earn a crust so make hay while the sun shines etc.

Nothing, but he talks like he's a contender. He is not.

[Shaun Harris]

Ah ha ! Poms badly want another Sheene so I've read before.
Someone else maybe,not Smith or CC for my money.
I did hear a few praising Redding at the last GP, but he doesn't seem to be in the chat rooms so much lately.
Someone from WSB maybe, Little Johnny Rea ???



Johnny Rea is Irish though man

[pritch]

What is wrong with that. He is probably knows buggar all else after bike racing to earn a crust so make hay while the sun shines etc.

Those who know him say he is intelligent with a keen sense of humour, and he calls a spade a spade. Although he might possibly rein in that latter tendency to advantage.

He trains on a push bike for fitness to the extent that he regularly trains with Mark Cavendish. Cavendish is a successful professional cyclist but sadly was one of the high profile casualites of this year's T dF. CC's cycling is at such a level that a professional ride would by no means be out of the question.

Problem is that at 29 he probably feels he can't play a waiting game. He will be 30 next year so wants the best ride he can get. It isn't too hard to see why he may not be willing to gamble on Ducati being competitive in their first year with a new bike.

It's readily apparent that some hereabout don't like him. I hope he can make them eat their words next year. If he can't do it then, it's probably never going to happen. I wish him well, the more bikes at the sharp end the betterer for us.

[pritch]

Johnny Rea is Irish though man

Rae races on a British passport. Eugene Laverty has an Irish passport but they are both from Northern Ireland. Laverty says that his Irish passport wasn't a political statement, when he went for a passport they asked if he wanted British or Irish. It was news to him that he could even have an Irish passport, so the novelty factor won out.

[Drew]

I think he is a liability to a team. On and off the track.

I don't dislike the guy. I don't know him.

[Shaun Harris]

I think he is a liability to a team. On and off the track.

I don't dislike the guy. I don't know him.





nah you just think to much then open ya mouth

[Shaun Harris]

but that is better than me I guess, I just open my mouth then think later

[Drew]

nah you just think to much then open ya mouth

Give it a whirl, then try to edit that post to make sense.

[Shaun Harris]

Give it a whirl, then try to edit that post to make sense.



But that involves thinking dam it man

[actungbaby]

It was indeed. Apparently last week's cover story and interview in MCN was Crutchlow saying why he was staying with Ducati. Ducati had also announced that he was staying, so I wonder if we'll ever find out what changed. Crutchlow posted a couple of chirpy messages on Twitter last night but nothing informative that I've seen yet.

Drew doesn't like the fact that CC was slagging off the bike, but he sure 'nuff had plenty reason. In his experience it was not just unrideable, it must have seemed like an unreliable heap of crap.

to true why whould you stay u whould have to be insane

[BMWST?]

to true why whould you stay u whould have to be insane
Cos if we are to beleive the hype he went there for the money,why not stick it out for another year,esp knowing it was no yamaha m1

[Shaun Harris]

Cos if we are to beleive the hype he went there for the money,why not stick it out for another year,esp knowing it was no yamaha m1



he is going racing on a bike he can trust and deff for a shit load less money

[pritch]

From Motomatters:

The Next Piece In The MotoGP Puzzle: Cal Crutchlow To LCR Honda In 2015
Submitted by David Emmett on Sat, 2014-08-02 10:58

It looks like Ducati will get their all-Italian line-up after all. Both GPOne.com and Speedweek are reporting independently that Cal Crutchlow will be leaving Ducati to join LCR Honda for the 2015 season. Officially, Crutchlow had until 31st July to exercise his option to leave Ducati, but it appears that Ducati management agreed to an extension, while negotiations continued with Honda. An agreement was reached late last night, Speedweek is reporting, with one of the main points of contention being the payoff Crutchlow would receive from Ducati for leaving.

A week ago, Crutchlow announced that he would be staying with the Italian factory at the World Ducati Week event. Since then, however, the situation changed, with Crutchlow's manager Bob Moore reaching agreement with Ducati management to explore further options. That led directly to the release of Crutchlow to join LCR.

Crutchlow is the latest in a long line of victims claimed by the Italian marque. Marco Melandri was the first to leave, departing early from a two-year contract of struggling miserably in 2008. Valentino Rossi sat patiently through his two seasons at Ducati, seizing the opportunity to return to Yamaha as soon as he could. And now Cal Crutchlow, courted by Ducati for a long time in the belief that he could solve their problems, has also departed. Crutchlow has struggled all season long, both with a string of mechanical failures, and with trying to adapt his riding style to the difficult Desmosedici.

The switch to Honda is hardly unexpected. Crutchlow came very close to signing for LCR Honda last year, but only last-minute intervention by Ducati swung the deal towards the Italian factory. HRC are known to view Crutchlow favorably, and with a large British sponsor on board - CWM World, a financial services company - having a British rider makes a lot of sense. Crutchlow will have to adapt his style once again, moving away from the smooth style he learned at Yamaha, and riding more aggressively. He should at least be able to carry some corner speed again, something he was renowned for on the Yamaha but was impossible on the Ducati.

Crutchlow's departure makes life significantly easier for Ducati. The relationship between the two parties became strained from quite early on, with Crutchlow's forthright manner not always fitting well inside the tightly-controlled corporate communications culture of Ducati. The factory had also signed Andrea Iannone for 2015 with a promise of factory support. Iannone, who has had some strong results this season, was unhappy with the arrangement, but the Ducati deal was his best option. Ducati can now offer Iannone what he wants, which is a seat in the Ducati factory team alongside Andrea Dovizioso.

With Crutchlow at LCR Honda, and Iannone and Dovizioso at factory Ducati, that opens up a seat at Pramac Ducati. Eugene Laverty has been in previous talks with the Pramac squad, though the Irishman is also believed to be in the frame for a slot at Aprilia, who will be buying out the PBM team for 2015. The Pramac team has also shown an interest in Stefan Bradl, who is making way for Crutchlow at LCR Honda. But Bradl's most likely destination is the Forward Yamaha team, where team manager Giovanni Cuzari has two slots to fill, with the retirement of Colin Edwards, and the almost certain departure to Suzuki of Aleix Espargaro. Alex De Angelis is to be drafted in to replace Edwards at certain select rounds this season - Brno, which comes a week after Indianapolis, and the three flyaway rounds of Motegi, Sepang and Phillip Island - and is a candidate to take the second seat at Forward.

Jack Miller's name continues to do the rounds, though it now seems more likely he will head to Gresini, rather than LCR. Miller will take the production RCV1000R at Gresini, with Scott Redding moving up to the RC213V vacated by Alvaro Bautista, as Redding's contract decrees. Next year's production Honda will be a very different kettle of fish to this year's bike, however, with Honda supplying the engine from this year's satellite bikes, minus the seamless gearbox.

Once the paddock reconvenes at Indianpolis this coming Thursday, even more will become clear. By then, Jorge Lorenzo should have renewed his deal with Yamaha, and several other of the open seats should be filled. The only satellite seat with a question mark hanging over it is the Monster Tech 3 Yamaha seat currently held by Bradley Smith. Who will fill that is very much up in the air.

[Reckless]

Yamaha to Ducati to LCR Honda.

Iannone replaces Crutchlow at Ducati Team for 2015
Saturday, 2 August 2014
Ducati Corse has announced on Saturday that it will be parting company with rider Cal Crutchlow at the end of the 2014 MotoGP™ season, as Andrea Iannone joins the factory outfit to become team-mate to Andrea Dovizioso in 2015.
Great Britain’s Crutchlow joined Ducati Team for 2014, taking the place of 2006 World Champion Nicky Hayden who switched to Drive M7 Aspar. This season is Crutchlow’s fourth in the premier class, having debuted with the Monster Yamaha Tech 3 outfit in 2011 as the 2009 World Supersport title. Saturday’s news comes despite it having been announced on 19 July that Crutchlow would be remaining with the Italian factory next year.

For 2015, Andrea Dovizioso’s new Ducati Team partner will be Andrea Iannone, making an all-Italian line-up as the latter switches from the Pramac Racing satellite outfit.

Saturday’s short communique from Ducati Corse reads as follows:
‘Ducati Corse announced today that it has reached an agreement with its factory rider Cal Crutchlow to terminate, ahead of time, the contract that ties the British rider to the Italian team in MotoGP for 2014 and also for next season.

The two factory Ducati Team riders for 2015 will now be Andrea Dovizioso and Andrea Iannone.’


KTM Into Moto GP in 2017

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-moto-gp/ktm-ceo-confirms-entry-into-2017-motogp/25345.html

[Bender]

And that leaves Bautista without a ride?

[speights_bud]

I think you mean Bradle?

[HenryDorsetCase]

If I stick my hand up now is it likely that KTM will offer me a factory ride in 2017?

OK, Suzuki back, KTM in.

Where's Kawasaki?

[speights_bud]

I wonder if jack Millar will have any tie up with being on a KTM already, they may want to try retain him if he doesn't jump to Motogp earlier?

[Shaun Harris]

If I stick my hand up now is it likely that KTM will offer me a factory ride in 2017?

OK, Suzuki back, KTM in.

Where's Kawasaki?


They are busy winning where races really still have a minor reflection on future sales.

[Shaun Harris]

I wonder if jack Millar will have any tie up with being on a KTM already, they may want to try retain him if he doesn't jump to Motogp earlier?



dude, jack millar weighting 3 years to get on a motogp bike hahahahahaha yea write

[speights_bud]

dude, jack millar weighting 3 nyears to get on a motogp bike hahahahahaha yea write
I do agree with you there but with talks of being tied into a 2 year deal with VDS in moto2 then it's not far off... Would prefer to see him in the LCR seat CC just took

[Shaun Harris]

I do agree with you there but with talks of being tied into a 2 year deal with VDS in moto2 then it's not far off... Would prefer to see him in the LCR seat CC just took



Talk is Talk man, Jack will be in MOTOGP big boys class in 2015 for sure.

[Drew]

dude, jack millar weighting 3 years to get on a motogp bike hahahahahaha yea write

Three years being balast? What is adding weight too?

[Shaun Harris]

Three years being balast? What is adding weight too?



Thanks too you I may remember that in the future

[Crasherfromwayback]

Who here believes in karma? Are Ducati getting their just desserts after their shit treatment of Stoner when he was crook? Their only real star.

Sure looks like it.

[Drew]

Thanks too you I may remember that in the future

To. Movement/direction
Too. Also
Two. Number after one

Right. Correct or side/half
Write. To pen/type words

Variations of write/right/rite are too many to list just now.

Weight. Mass
Wait. Hang on a mo/indefinitely

Just saying.

Not gonna try with who they are, what's theirs, or how they got there.

[Shaun Harris]

Who here believes in karma? Are Ducati getting their just desserts after their shit treatment of Stoner when he was crook? Their only real star.

Sure looks like it.



They sure did shaft him-

[Shaun Harris]

To. Movement/direction
Too. Also
Two. Number after one

Right. Correct or side/half
Write. To pen/type words

Variations of write/right/rite are too many to list just now.

Weight. Mass
Wait. Hang on a mo/indefinitely

Just saying.

Not gonna try with who they are, what's theirs, or how they got there.



Thanks boss, I promise to improve yea right

[pritch]

They sure did shaft him-

Wasn't just Stoner, when Milandri informed Ducati that the bike didn't handle they sent him to a psychologist. then they ignored a lot of what Rossi/Burgess told them. All sorts of bad karma racking up there.

[Shaun Harris]

Wasn't just Stoner, when Milandri informed Ducati that the bike didn't handle they sent him to a psychologist. then they ignored a lot of what Rossi/Burgess told them. All sorts of bad karma racking up there.






The old go see the psychologist trick eh haha that was bloody funny at the time. DUMB PRIDE bites there arse

[HenryDorsetCase]

Wasn't just Stoner, when Milandri informed Ducati that the bike didn't handle they sent him to a psychologist. then they ignored a lot of what Rossi/Burgess told them. All sorts of bad karma racking up there.

That new dude in charge is supposed to be the shizz. New bike next year might have anti gravity and impulse power.

[Drew]

DUMB PRIDE bites there arse
It seems I should have tried.

"DUMB PRIDE bites THEIR arse".

There. Someplace else
Their. They own it
They're. They are

[Shaun Harris]

It seems I should have tried.

"DUMB PRIDE bites THEIR arse".

There. Someplace else
Their. They own it
They're. They are



Im enjoying these lessons

[swarfie]

It seems I should have tried.

"DUMB PRIDE bites THEIR arse".

There. Someplace else
Their. They own it
They're. They are

Nice won mate althrough I sence your waysting your'e time on hour iliterat freind, he wille neva spoke proper england :laugh:

[Shaun Harris]

That new dude in charge is supposed to be the shizz. New bike next year might have anti gravity and impulse power.



He sure has a very good rep and history

[Erelyes]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/da/da1b3e48f5f88ffe9d8b8274d799f5c8d26f28d4469c212be4 e40f255d58b977.jpg

[roogazza]

"Say 'WHAT' again,I dare ya ! Great movie Erelyes, 'Pulp'. :laugh:

[Drew]

"Say 'WHAT' again,I dare ya ! Great movie, 'Pulp'. :laugh:"Do they speak english in "What""?

[HenryDorsetCase]

"Do they speak english in "What""?

THAT is a tasty burger.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Far as I know, the motherfucker's tip top.

[Drew]

Far as I know, the motherfucker's tip top.

I drive real fast, try and keep up.

[husaberg]

Don't be telling me about foot massages, I'm the foot fuckin' master.

[Erelyes]

It's not a motorcycle baby, it's a chopper.

[Drew]

Don't be telling me about foot massages, I'm the foot fuckin' master.

Got my shit down. Don't be tickling or nothing.

[husaberg]

Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker.

[raziel1983]

http://i.imgur.com/NoSlc.png

Also cant wait for the next race this weekend!

[pritch]

That new dude in charge is supposed to be the shizz. New bike next year might have anti gravity and impulse power.

A flux capacitor and phasers set to stun? I liked the effort of the wag who renamed the GP15 the GG15.

[Reckless]

Bradle is def out by the looks no mention of him goin on the Open bike option talked about.
Also no dismissal of link to Jack Miller going on the open bike either.
I think CC will go well on the new upgraded Honda, it suits his style.


Lucio Cecchinello on 2015 plans for LCR Honda with Crutchlow
Monday, 4 August 2014
Just two days after announcing that Cal Crutchlow will ride for his team next year, Lucio Cecchinello spoke with motogp.com in order to discuss the signing of the English rider and the plan to run two bikes during the 2015 season.
From the start of next year, the Monaco-based outfit will be rebranded as CWM-LCR Honda. Not only will Crutchlow join, but Cecchinello also confirms that he will be running an Open specification machine alongside Crutchlow’s Factory Option bike.

When did you decide to focus on Crutchlow and how did negotiations develop?
Our goal was always to make an ambitious programme for next year, with that dream becoming a reality thanks to a new British sponsor in CWM, a leader in the financial sector. We signed the contract in late July and from then on we knew we had the opportunity to field two bikes. The sponsor confirmed their will to race with Stefan Bradl, to whom we made an offer at the end of July. He told us he needed more time because he wanted to evaluate all of the offers he had; I realised his interest had begun to waver and I didn’t want our new sponsor to lose interest. So we started turning our gaze to the top riders on the market, exploring all of the options. Among them was Cal Crutchlow and we had already been in contact with his manager, Bob Moore, since early July. We then resumed the talks and everybody agreed to the terms very quickly, within a few days.

What was it about Crutchlow that convinced you he was the rider to go with?
In 2013, Cal had an excellent season with four podium finishes and two pole positions (with Monster Yamaha Tech 3), and so I believed he was a viable alternative to Stefan, despite currently going through a difficult season with Ducati and not being as comfortable on that bike as he was on the Yamaha. I believe that, with him, our team can return to the highest level and the objective is to be up there with the best of them.

How many seasons does Crutchlow’s new contract cover? And will he be bringing any of his technical staff with him?
The contract signed is for the 2015 season; then there is an option on our side for 2016, based mainly on results, and of course there is also the HRC side to consider. As far as technical staff are concerned, we will start looking into that from Indianapolis onwards.

Can you now say how many bikes you will be running in 2015?
We are looking to run one Factory Option bike and then a second bike to Open specification; however, with the latter we are yet to confirm either the programme or the rider. However, our priority was to have the Factory Option bike and a competitive rider, as desired by the sponsor.

Some paddock rumours continue to link current Moto3™ championship leader Jack Miller with an LCR MotoGP™ ride…
Jack Miller has certainly been approached by Honda, but I am not aware of the status of any negotiations. Once the programme is defined, it would be up to HRC to place him in one of the available positions. LCR would be one of the possibilities, but that decision would be up to the people involved.

All of this means that, after three seasons, you will end your working relationship with Stefan Bradl. How do you sum it up?
LCR has existed since 1996 and, without doubt, Stefan is the rider with whom we have worked best. He is a very serious, precise and sensitive guy who has demonstrated that he is able to develop a bike and show consistent results. On many occasions he has brought us home valuable points, as opposed to crashing and not scoring anything. He has brought me a lot of emotion and I hope to experience a lot more before the end of the year. He is a rider who will always remain close to heart.

[Bender]

I think you mean Bradle?

"with Scott Redding moving up to the RC213V vacated by Alvaro Bautista,"

Redding on the factory spec bike, Jack Miller on the proddy bike, so where does Bautista go ... anyone?

[DidJit]

... so where does Bautista go... anyone?

Possibly Aprilia (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/08/04/silly_season_so_far_post_crutchlow_who_i.html)...

[pritch]

"with Scott Redding moving up to the RC213V vacated by Alvaro Bautista,"

Redding on the factory spec bike, Jack Miller on the proddy bike, so where does Bautista go ... anyone?

Forward Racing who are losing both of their riders, or Aprilia test rider? Not many options.

[Banditbandit]

The suzuki will be the slowest of the factory/satelite bikes.How can they be anything but?.They have been out of the game for years.Have they got a pit crew lined up?

Remember what Rossi did his first season at Yamaha - everyone wrote off the bike as slow and wondered why Rossi was going to that team ... He won his first race in SA and took the championship that year.

Don't write off Suzuki before the season starts ..

[Shaun Harris]

Remember what Rossi did his first season at Yamaha - everyone wrote off the bike as slow and wondered why Rossi was going to that team ... He won his first race in SA and took the championship that year.

Don't write off Suzuki before the season starts ..



The Suzuki will be there or there abouts

[Drew]

Remember what Rossi did his first season at Yamaha - everyone wrote off the bike as slow and wondered why Rossi was going to that team ... He won his first race in SA and took the championship that year.

Don't write off Suzuki before the season starts ..

On an established bike, with little more than set up issues. Not to mention Rossi was streaks ahead of any other rider at the time, and the bikes were without electronic assistance.

[pritch]

On an established bike, with little more than set up issues.

Where does this bloody story keep coming from? It was a completely new bike, unless of course a new engine and a new frame don't actually make a new bike.

Rossi and Brurgess met with Furusawa etc who showed them the various options that Yamaha were working on. Rossi and Burgess picked the options they preferred and the new bike was developed accordingly.

The heads went from five valves to four, the crank went cross plane with the engine running backwards. I hope we agree that qualifies as a new engine. The frame was heightened and the engine mounts lowered, among other things, which should qualify it as a new frame.

Set up issues? Hardly. When Rossi referred to the M1 as "My baby" he wasn't really kidding.

[Mental Trousers]

Remember what Rossi did his first season at Yamaha - everyone wrote off the bike as slow and wondered why Rossi was going to that team ... He won his first race in SA and took the championship that year.

Don't write off Suzuki before the season starts ..

On an established bike, with little more than set up issues. Not to mention Rossi was streaks ahead of any other rider at the time, and the bikes were without electronic assistance.

Also, Yamaha were committed to improving the bike and had a budget to do it. Suzuki are notorious for not fronting with the money to do the job properly.

I'm sure everyone (except maybe Shaun) will be very surprised if they do come up with a decent budget.

[BMWST?]

And they already had the designs in motion when rossi moved

[Shaun Harris]

I'm sure everyone (except maybe Shaun) will be very surprised if they do come up with a decent budget.






I like to fight for the underdog

[Banditbandit]

And they already had the designs in motion when rossi moved

I hope it was in motion - after all, that's why they have wheels ..

[roogazza]

Where does this bloody story keep coming from? It was a completely new bike, unless of course a new engine and a new frame don't actually make a new bike.

Rossi and Brurgess met with Furusawa etc who showed them the various options that Yamaha were working on. Rossi and Burgess picked the options they preferred and the new bike was developed accordingly.

The heads went from five valves to four, the crank went cross plane with the engine running backwards. I hope we agree that qualifies as a new engine. The frame was heightened and the engine mounts lowered, among other things, which should qualify it as a new frame.

Set up issues? Hardly. When Rossi referred to the M1 as "My baby" he wasn't really kidding.

Pretty much on it pritch, have you read his book 'what if I'd never tried it?' (I think that was the title ?) Lays it all out in there, how it went and the secret meetings etc.
That first GP of 04 blew everyone away.Trying that again on the Dookati backfired tho huh ?:facepalm:

[roogazza]

Something I'd like to read and will, as soon as I get my hands on it.
Here's someone we can believe in and learn from.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140805tb21.htm

[Shaun Harris]

Something I'd like to read and will, as soon as I get my hands on it.
Here's someone we can believe in and learn from.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140805tb21.htm



yea man that will be a good read

[pritch]

Pretty much on it pritch, have you read his book 'what if I'd never tried it?' (I think that was the title ?) Lays it all out in there, how it went and the secret meetings etc.
That first GP of 04 blew everyone away.Trying that again on the Dookati backfired tho huh ?:facepalm:

Yeah, I had that book but gave it away. Can't remember it all, but definitely remember Rossi and Brivio hiding under tables at midnight to avoid being seen by the security staff. If Rossi and the Yamaha manager were seen hiding together at midnight it would definitely have started a rumour. And not just about their sexual orientation. :whistle:

BIKE magazine also did an article on the M1 when they were allowed to ride the bike at the end of the season and that article also detailed the design changes and the effect thereof.

Plus I have here "The Grand Prix Motorcycle" by Kevin Cameron which mentions some of the options Yamaha offered Burgess and Rossi, including four different engine designs.

Cameron mentions other changes too. Yamaha had previously tried to individually tailor their bikes to each individual rider, the riders need both of their bikes to be as near identical as possible. Yamaha were trying so hard to optimise each bike to each rider that Biaggi complained his bike was never the same twice. The M1 was developed so that the same design could be ridden by any rider in the team.

"Burgess was surprised to discover that Yamaha did not previously practise trackside mapping, which is altering the fuel injection and ignition control maps during practice to tailor the machines behaviour to particular situations."

Not just was the M1 a completely new design, the whole philosophy of how it would be used had changed. As had the management of the Yamaha racing effort, Furusawa having replaced Yoda who went to Kawasaki.

And still that "set up issues" theory gets trotted out. :facepalm:

And then there was Ducati where the plan seemed to be that nothing would change. Ever!

[Shaun Harris]

Pritch, I bet there was a lot of verbal promises made within Ducati for JB and VR to be able to do what they wanted all but, until the crunch time came that is.

Remember when VR talked about the effort it took to convince JB to go to yamaha in the first place, then the Ducati was simple " Jerry said he is my boy and I go with him" Bet that was based around the verbal diatribe of the spaghetti eaters and JB thought they would be able to conquer again, not to forget JB Quoted very very early on saying " We Know what is wrong and how to fix it" They probally did know exactually what was wrong as they were the best in the business together, but Ducati Money and powers that be obviously knew better and Rossi stayed out of pride is my guess just taking shit loads of MILLIONS from them.

There JB and VR as a team burnt out, the rest is history

[pritch]

Something I'd like to read and will, as soon as I get my hands on it.
Here's someone we can believe in and learn from.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140805tb21.htm

Thanks for that. About the last thing I need is yet another motorcycling book but...

It's currently NZ$26.41 freight free from www.bookdepository.com

The Book Depository has been bought out by Amazon and I have "political" problems buying anything from Amazon. One of the founders of BD though is starting a new online bookshop "Best Little Bookshop" but it isn't up and running yet. There is a web page though, so you can bookmark it for later.

Don't tell Robert I posted this. :whistle:

[Drew]

Something I'd like to read and will, as soon as I get my hands on it.
Here's someone we can believe in and learn from.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140805tb21.htmIt's a 'How to' book. I'm flattered that he thinks normal bikers like most of us, can learn things that someone at that level has to teach.

[roogazza]

It's a 'How to' book. I'm flattered that he thinks normal bikers like most of us, can learn things that someone at that level has to teach.
Yes,he can teach till he's blue in the face,but I have a component missing ! :brick:

[Drew]

Yes,he can teach till he's blue in the face,but I have a component missing ! :brick:Don't talk shit y'old cunt. I've seen you ride.

[Reckless]

Good Natural vid of MM and DP chatting over some of the old race bikes.

http://www.sportrider.com/sportbike-news/video-marquez-and-pedrosa-check-out-nsr500-two-stroke

[DidJit]

Yep, Stefan’s off to Forward Racing next season (http://motomatters.com/news/2014/08/06/stefan_bradl_confirmed_at_forward_racing.html).

[Mental Trousers]

Yep, Stefan’s off to Forward Racing next season (http://motomatters.com/news/2014/08/06/stefan_bradl_confirmed_at_forward_racing.html).

Not much of a step down. Although they haven't had that much development on the FTR chassis yet.

[Dave-]

What the fuck? No laguna seca? What is this bullshit? Indy? Fucking indy?

[GD66]

Love it ! :laugh:

Yes, it's a strange world at times. If you ran a poll of which circuit you would shit-can instantly, Indy would be top of the tree.

Fkn corrupt, blazer-wearing Spanish cahns...:weird:

[roogazza]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/207433/1/dovizioso-new-ducati-engine-for-indy.html

Factory 2 class enables a few perks, more engines and development.

[Reckless]

Yamaha and Jorge Lorenzo confirm new two-year agreement
Lorenzo discusses Yamaha contract extension
Thursday, 7 August 2014
Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd and Movistar Yamaha MotoGP rider Jorge Lorenzo are delighted to announce that they have signed a new two-year agreement that sees the Mallorcan complete the Movistar Yamaha line up for the next two seasons.
The agreement realises Lorenzo’s wish to continue his premier class career with Yamaha, extending the relationship from seven to nine years. Both Yamaha and Lorenzo are confident that the partnership has the potential to deliver a third title and will continue to work towards this goal.

Lin Jarvis, Managing Director of Yamaha Motor Racing Srl
"I am very happy we have reached an agreement for Jorge to continue as a Movistar Yamaha MotoGP rider. The new agreement extends Jorge’s seven-year partnership with Yamaha. He started with us as a rookie back in 2008 and together we achieved many great results including 31 GP victories and two MotoGP Rider World Champion titles in 2010 and 2012. The 2014 season has been a tough one for Jorge so far but I am hoping that the confirmation of this new agreement will give him the peace of mind to be able to focus 100% of his energy on the remaining races. Last year we saw what he was able to do when the going was tough and he was fighting back from mid-season injuries so we know that the potential is there for a strong second half to the 2014 season. For 2015 and beyond we have no doubt that Jorge will be a strong title contender and we will do our very best to provide him with the materials and the support he needs to be able to realize our shared ambitions."

Jorge Lorenzo, Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Rider
"I am very happy to finally be able to make this announcement. It is a relief to be able to now completely focus on the remainder of the 2014 season in the knowledge that our relationship will continue for the next two seasons. It has always been my wish to continue my career with Yamaha; I strongly believe we can fight for a third title together. This season has been very challenging after a difficult start, however we will continue to take it race by race, giving 100% until Valencia. I want to thank Yamaha for their continued belief in me and all the Yamaha fans around the world who continue to support me. After the summer break I’m excited to be back at Indy with my team and focused again on riding."

[Reckless]

Interesting discussion between the riders on MM

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/207434/1/somebody-must-stop-this-rivals-talk-marquez-domination.html

[HenryDorsetCase]

Thanks for that. About the last thing I need is yet another motorcycling book but...

It's currently NZ$26.41 freight free from www.bookdepository.com

The Book Depository has been bought out by Amazon and I have "political" problems buying anything from Amazon. One of the founders of BD though is starting a new online bookshop "Best Little Bookshop" but it isn't up and running yet. There is a web page though, so you can bookmark it for later.

Don't tell Robert I posted this. :whistle:

wait whut? why don't you like Amazon?

its the drone delivery thing, right?

[pritch]

wait whut? why don't you like Amazon?

its the drone delivery thing, right?

No it's not the drone delivery thing, whoever came up with that idea must have been smoking the electric puha. Amazon let the physical handling of the goods out to contractors. The employment conditions are horrendous. The pay is crap, employees are required to process one item every so many seconds, if at any point they are seen talking they are instantly dismissed. Cameras record everything.

Amazon say none of this is their fault, it's the contractors. Yeah right!

Not long ago there was to be a new Amazon opening in Wales, local politicians apparently thought this was great. "Think of the jobs it will bring" etc.
Sure, it will bring some really low grade jobs but nearly all of the existing shops in Wales would lose business, many would lay off staff, and some would close.
Not much of a win.

And it's not as if the pricks contribute much to the tax take either. But the Welsh politicians probably proceed in a state of near perfect ignorance. Just like our own.

/RANT
http://www.motherjones.com/rights-stuff/2011/07/ohio-warehouse-temps-unemployment

[roogazza]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140808cy.htm

Sounds like most people are in favour of the resealing of the infield.
Ducatis have higher HP engines this weekend.
A result of them dropping back to the Factory 2 Class,they can enjoy the fruits of development and improvements.:shifty:

[pritch]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140808cy.htm

Sounds like most people are in favour of the resealing of the infield.


Apparently it's not just a reseal, there are some new corners and the whole thing is more flowing. The riders are reportedly a lot happier. If the IMS people did all that maybe they deserve to keep the race after all.

[Shaun Harris]

They are all saying the track is offering more grip the more laps that get done, SO- Is Dovi gunna take a hell of a punt and try to race for the win using the special soft?

[roogazza]

Give him a two lap start too, may as well.
It seems IMS still aren't getting the crowds they wanted. Being all about the money they might flag it ? :corn:

Those cars that only go left, get 200,000 in the stand.(crowds I mean)

[Shaun Harris]

Leon Camier impressed the heck out me as everything is a first time to him

[roogazza]

Leon Camier impressed the heck out me as everything is a first time to him

I've just been out for the first squirt in 2 mths,now I'll plonk myself down and watch the qualifying from last night.

[Shaun Harris]

I've just been out for the first squirt in 2 mths,now I'll plonk myself down and watch the qualifying from last night.




I missed the Moto2 class dam it, I would love too see what I am reading about regarding Josh herrin rear ending some one

[roogazza]

Great racing , first half extra good. Then settled into the norm.
Looks like Bradle rear ended Alex Esp, Esp stayed on with the rear of the bike smashed,Bradle every which way cartwheeling.
Both retired to hand the three poms Smith,Crutch and Redding a couple of positions.Tho still 6,7 and 8th. Camier came in after bumping a button.
Won't give away the rest. :woohoo:

[Banditbandit]

(Singing) 10-nil, 10-nil, 10-nil, 10-nil ...

[pritch]

It was a good race in so far as all of the usual suspects had their chances, but when MM decides to check out nobody yet has an answer.
Something similar to a rugby tackle might do it, and for a while there it did appear that some were prepared to try that.

[Shaun Harris]

wow, so forward racing cannot afford to pay Colin Edwards what they owe him, how the hell are they going to be able to keep racing full stop if they are prepared to shaft him

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/colin-edwards-retires-earlier-than-expected-may-do-some-motogp-wild-cards-in-2014/

probably been posted before.

That dark haired pit girl to Colin's right (left of shot) is the best looking girl on the grid IMO.

[Shaun Harris]

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/colin-edwards-retires-earlier-than-expected-may-do-some-motogp-wild-cards-in-2014/

probably been posted before.

That dark haired pit girl to Colin's right (left of shot) is the best looking girl on the grid IMO.






wow your taste sure is different

[R650R]

Caught most of the race this morning, is it just me or were those bikes a lot looser than normal. Some pretty wicked riding going on.

[Shaun Harris]

Caught most of the race this morning, is it just me or were those bikes a lot looser than normal. Some pretty wicked riding going on.





They did not look more loose than normall to me mate

[Reckless]

Good Night live feed off Moto GP site

Moto 3 was bloody awesome
Moto 2 was the most processional of the races
Moto GP Great first few laps they really took it to MM but eventually he just has that few tenths that builds to 2 seconds??


I missed the Moto2 class dam it, I would love too see what I am reading about regarding Josh herrin rear ending some one

I thought the TV coverage was well below average, we saw stuff all of the incidents, they didn't even catch what happened there Sean???

Secondly have been noticing how much Rossi is sweating at the after race conferences age kicking in??

10/10 when they monstered him at the start gotta give the kid credit aye :)

[roogazza]

299888
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140810thegoodson.htm
Nice story here.

[Shaun Harris]

Good Night live feed off Moto GP site

Moto 3 was bloody awesome
Moto 2 was the most processional of the races
Moto GP Great first few laps they really took it to MM but eventually he just has that few tenths that builds to 2 seconds??



I thought the TV coverage was well below average, we saw stuff all of the incidents, they didn't even catch what happened there Sean???

Secondly have been noticing how much Rossi is sweating at the after race conferences age kicking in??

10/10 when they monstered him at the start gotta give the kid credit aye :)




The yanks are complaining a lot about the TV coverage also, ( In fact the yanks are just complaining full stop about bike racing) is it contracted to different TV Filming companies in each country, or is it the same crew at all events?

[pritch]

We get the Dorna coverage now, Nick Harris and whoever replaced Gavin Emmett, they do all of the races. You could hear that they were on the PA as well at Indy.

Earlier in the year we apparently took the British Telecom coverage for one race but that's unusual and I would have liked to see that. BT is a new team that replaced the Eurosport coverage that Britain took previously.

[HenryDorsetCase]

the yanks (on reddit) are vociferous in their complaints about the commentary they received. My understanding is that there is one company contracted to provide the cameras and each "proveder" picks and chooses what views to show with their own commentary? I "think" I read that somewhere.

[Badjelly]

wow, so forward racing cannot afford to pay Colin Edwards what they owe him, how the hell are they going to be able to keep racing full stop if they are prepared to shaft him

Are they unable to pay him what they owe him? I haven't seen that.

But if this is true, the answer to your question is surely, "Find a rider who brings his own money." It's been done before now, many times.

[pritch]

Well we can't complain that the racing wasn't close enough.

299889299890

[Shaun Harris]

Are they unable to pay him what they owe him? I haven't seen that.

But if this is true, the answer to your question is surely, "Find a rider who brings his own money." It's been done before now, many times.




that is the word in the USA mate

[pritch]

I saw the following message from David Emmett on Twitter:
"Jerry Burgess is a man of exceptional dignity and grace. Turning up with a #46 cap shows what a remarkable man he is."

Hoping that Mr Emmett had actually been close enough to chat, I asked him if he knew whether or not JB was writing a book.
I've received the following reply,
"He said he would write a book. No idea how far along it is. You would expect Christmas 2014 would be a good target date."

[roogazza]

Are they unable to pay him what they owe him? I haven't seen that.

I haven't found any evidence of that as yet ? and I'm looking.

[Shaun Harris]

I haven't found any evidence of that as yet ? and I'm looking.



that is because it has not been said out loud in public as yet

[HenryDorsetCase]

So that hot dark haired girl might be looking for a gig?

[jasonu]

I thought the TV coverage was well below average, we saw stuff all of the incidents, they didn't even catch what happened there Sean???

:)

Yeah the coverage here with American commentators Scott Russell and co. was total shit. As you said no shots of incidents and we totally lost the last 7 laps with pix only of the last lap. MotoGP still not popular enough in the States to warrant the big media coverage of old...

[jasonu]

I just watched the Moto2 race. Same crappy coverage. It went to commercial, when it came back the announcer casually said the bikes were regridding for a restart with no mention or explanation of what happened. Piss poor! I think I might ask BRONZ to organize a protest BBQ on the steps of the White House....

[merv]

Well we can't complain that the racing wasn't close enough.



Exactly what I've been saying for a while - overall the racing is closer than its ever been with the lowly finisher only 10s of seconds behind the winners, not many minutes and being lapped like they used to be in the 500cc days.

Scott Redding on the proddy Honda was 40 seconds behind Marquez and less than a second behind Crutchless on the factory Ducati. Everyone complains about the top speed of that Honda but Nakamoto built Dorna a bike totally competitive against the old CRT just like they asked for.

All in I think it was a bloody good race.

[Dave-]

Downloaded the Fox coverage.

What a load of shit.

American coverage of an american race, american national anthem, american military present, american died 2 nights ago so you have to have an american moment of silence. American rider retiring so big segment on that, other american rider injured so they'd better ask him about his hand and his dad's book. Never fucking mind there was an incident involving two riders on the third corner of the first lap. Never mind that 12 laps of the 27 lap race were lost. Never mind there was a FUCKING RACE ON.

Fuck.

[Asher]

I downloaded the Fox sports coverage of the GP race. I can see why the americans would be upset about it.
One of the commentators sounded mentally slow.

[Shaun Harris]

I downloaded the Fox sports coverage of the GP race. I can see why the americans would be upset about it.
One of the commentators sounded mentally slow.




haha probally scott Russell

[Shaun Harris]

Downloaded the Fox coverage.

What a load of shit.

American coverage of an american race, american national anthem, american military present, american died 2 nights ago so you have to have an american moment of silence. American rider retiring so big segment on that, other american rider injured so they'd better ask him about his hand and his dad's book. Never fucking mind there was an incident involving two riders on the third corner of the first lap. Never mind that 12 laps of the 27 lap race were lost. Never mind there was a FUCKING RACE ON.

Fuck.




And NOT ONE fast American on the track. Even when Matt Maladin used to win there for years, they played the american national anthem

[jasonu]

haha probally scott Russell

and his Southern Draaaaawwwwllllll

[pritch]

I ddn't hear what the track announcer said this time but at one recent US GP meeting the announcer said words to the effect, "Ladies and gentlemen please stand and remove your hats in honour of the national anthem of the greatest nation on earth."

Now that would be fine at a NASCAR meeting where he'd be preaching to the choir, but at in international event? Hardly in the very best of taste.

[Shaun Harris]

I ddn't hear what the track announcer said this time but at one recent US GP meeting the announcer said words to the effect, "Ladies and gentlemen please stand and remove your hats in honour of the national anthem of the greatest nation on earth."

Now that would be fine at a NASCAR meeting where he'd be preaching to the choir, but at in international event? Hardly in the very best of taste.





Blind biased fuckers who think the USA is the only country in the
world that matters or even exists actually. I do admire there patrotism, but some times it just goes to far with ignorance

[Shaun Harris]

and his Southern Draaaaawwwwllllll



I thought that came from the DRUGS

[HenryDorsetCase]

'MURICA!!!!

Scott Russell is from Alabama, right? and had a major head injury?

[Crasherfromwayback]

'MURICA!!!!

Scott Russell is from Alabama, right? and had a major head injury?

Don't think so...may well be wrong. Got bashed in the face at Daytona one year and had his jaw broken. But his real nasty acc was when he stalled his Ducati at Daytona and got rear ended, mashed his leg real bad and nearly bled out there and then.

[jasonu]

Don't think so...may well be wrong. Got bashed in the face at Daytona one year and had his jaw broken. But his real nasty acc was when he stalled his Ducati at Daytona and got rear ended, mashed his leg real bad and nearly bled out there and then.

Shaun's right, there was a drug issue (and he is a southerner which can make anyone sound like a half bake) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVmYVwY9MI&list=PLtNWFAULjWlmwWSSehhmKXYDwAPR6UYHo

[Crasherfromwayback]

Shaun's right, there was a drug issue (and he is a southerner which can make anyone sound like a half bake) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBVmYVwY9MI&list=PLtNWFAULjWlmwWSSehhmKXYDwAPR6UYHo

Nah mate. I was referring to the head injury comment not Shauns.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Don't think so...may well be wrong. Got bashed in the face at Daytona one year and had his jaw broken. But his real nasty acc was when he stalled his Ducati at Daytona and got rear ended, mashed his leg real bad and nearly bled out there and then.

thats what I was thinking about. He had some mega-insurance payout too IIRC.

[Crasherfromwayback]

thats what I was thinking about. He had some mega-insurance payout too IIRC.

Think that was due to his leg mate...IF he didn't race again or some such shit.

[Shaun Harris]

Think that was due to his leg mate...IF he didn't race again or some such shit.



That is exactually what I have read also. He has raced since then though. My drug comment was a joke really, but there was a death at a swimming pool involving him and drugs not that long ago

[Crasherfromwayback]

That is exactually what I have read also. He has raced since then though. My drug comment was a joke really, but there was a death at a swimming pool involving him and drugs not that long ago

Yeah my understading at the time was he wasn't allowed to do any more road racing? Think he did a bit of motard stuff etc. Perhaps now the time has lapsed so he can dabble again as a tar baby?

[Shaun Harris]

Bradley Smith to stay with Herve for another year

[Reckless]

Bradley Smith to stay with Herve for another year

He's lucky I reckon.

Reading the ebook Ring of Fire cant get my face out of it!
Thanks for that MotoGP thread :brick:

[Shaun Harris]

He's lucky I reckon.

Reading the ebook Ring of Fire cant get my face out of it!
Thanks for that MotoGP thread :brick:



im sure you will find it, and take care of ya head

[pritch]

It was reported overnight that Eugene Laverty is at Brno.

[Shaun Harris]

It was reported overnight that Eugene Laverty is at Brno.




apparently the women shave properlly there

[Shaun Harris]

It was reported overnight that Eugene Laverty is at Brno.



Johny Rae also Pritch

[roogazza]

He's lucky I reckon.

Reading the ebook Ring of Fire cant get my face out of it!

Yes he's bloody lucky, I was pickin he'd be a gone coon.

'Ring of Fire' good huh ? I got the Paraparam Library to buy it, when I lived down that way.

[raziel1983]

Johny Rae also Pritch
Would like to see Johnny in GP, seems like a good bastard.

http://www.dukevideo.com/images/productimages/1/N287.jpg

[pritch]

Johny Rae also Pritch

Well that's more of a puzzle. I wouldn't have thought there were two rides up for grabs, and best guess would have been that the services of Laverty & Rea would have been sought by different factories. Unless somebody has decided to start a Northern Irish team. :whistle:

And while discussing oddities; Dorna has contracted the new Welsh track to run the British GP for five years from 2015. Except the "new" track doesn't even exist as yet - and that area of Wales gets a lot of rain. As one pundit put it, the Welsh taxpayers will likely be paying for the 2015 event to be subcontracted to Sliverstone.

[roogazza]

Johny Rae also Pritch

Sorry I just have to: Johnny Rea.

Keep up with the 'pills and ointment' Shaun ! ;)

[Shaun Harris]

Well that's more of a puzzle. I wouldn't have thought there were two rides up for grabs, and best guess would have been that the services of Laverty & Rae would have been sought by different factories. Unless somebody has decided to start a Northern Irish team. :whistle:

And while discussing oddities; Dorna has contracted the new Welsh track to run the British GP for five years from 2015. Except the "new" track doesn't even exist as yet - and that area of Wales gets a lot of rain. As one pundit put it, the Welsh taxpayers will likely be paying for the 2015 event to be subcontracted to Sliverstone.



there are a few of those satllite wana be Motogp Honda things availlable

[Shaun Harris]

Sorry I just have to: Johnny Rea.

Keep up with the 'pills and ointment' Shaun ! ;)




rrrrrr ho hum

[pritch]

I got the Paraparam Library to buy it, when I lived down that way.

These days it costs a massive NZ$14.67 in paperback from the Book Depository. But I've already got the Baylis book coming and I just noticed that Peter Egan's "Leanings3" is out and I'll have to have that too. Later.

About Mr Rea, your spelling is correct and I have amended mine accordingly.

A year or two back it was reported that some of the Italians in the paddock asked why Johnny Rea's name and Gino Rea's name were spelt the same but pronounced differently. A reasonable question, but apparently nobody could provide an answer.

[raziel1983]

there are a few of those satllite wana be Motogp Honda things availlable

They are said to be receiving an engine upgrade next year with pneumatic valves etc for more oopmh!

[pritch]

there are a few of those satllite wana be Motogp Honda things availlable

Yeah Rea could be in line for something like that, but I'da thunk Laverty would have been more in line for a Suzuki ride.

PBM are leaving so one Laverty departs MotoGP as another arrives?

[Reckless]

These days it costs a massive NZ$14.67 in paperback from the Book Depository. But I've already got the Baylis book coming and I just noticed that Peter Egan's "Leanings3" is out and I'll have to have that too. Later.

Thanks pritch they are now in the Iphone notes to read list? Time is the problem :facepalm:
$11:71 my Bankcard says as an e book trying this new Asus T100 10.1" tablet for reading?? Seems good. Great at night in bed.
As an Aside
Also bought "A flock of ships" - Brian Callison. $6:91
I've never forgotten it! It captivated me when I was a boy the reviews say it does again re read 40 years later.

I reckon they'll get the Honda smokin next year and we will see some great Battles with the Tech3 bikes etc. Hopefully the Suzuki will be in that mix to.
Prob going to need dual screens :yes:

[speights_bud]

Stupid Aussie journos haha.

http://www.amcn.com.au/news/1408/aussie-jack-miller-set-to-sign-for-lcr-motogp-squad/

[Mental Trousers]

Been seeing a couple of those sort of stories. One of them had Miller signed up to Repsol Honda, even though MM and DP are both signed up for another 2 years.

[roogazza]

Bit of dry then a little water for the first day.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140815d.htm

Go Vale. :shifty:

[Shaun Harris]

Been seeing a couple of those sort of stories. One of them had Miller signed up to Repsol Honda, even though MM and DP are both signed up for another 2 years.



I read those stories as to mean, they will lock Him in so as to take a place long term in the Repsol team. DP will be gone at end of his current new contract and Honda are obviously looking to the future.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mmmmmm...my carton of Steinie is getting closer...

[Shaun Harris]

Mmmmmm...my carton of Steinie is getting closer...



hahahaha, enjoy them man

[jasonu]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motorbikes/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503065&objectid=11307328

So far there is nothing to say MM won't win them all. I hope he does. If he doesn't it will be due to a mistake on his part, getting punted in the first few laps before he just fucks off or a mechanical dnf. He has made the others look like a bunch of plonkers. I like seeing history in the making.

[steveyb]

Doofus of the Year award?

[speights_bud]

http://www.redbull.com/cs/Satellite/en_INT/Article/Blog-Aris-melted-tear-off-drama-021243363631262

I always thought that the tear off visors could cause riders problems but I didn't expect it like this. I thought more about running one over or flying straight into the air intake...

[Berries]

Is he a New Zealander? Just wondered with the way he spelt breaks.

Now is it me, or are these super slow motion replays getting a bit old? The first few times they are pretty bloody impressive, but after that they can be a bit if a yawn, and worse when there is something decent happening in the race like in the Moto 3 earlier. Cut to two bikes going around a corner in slow motion, cut back to see everything has changed at the front. It is as if they have this technology and so have to use it as least half a dozen times per race. Once or perhaps twice it is worth it, the rest is a bit arse.

[ellipsis]

...well, that I didn't expect...

[haydes55]

...well, that I didn't expect...


Nooooooooooooooo

(glad I didn't chuck $20 down on the win).

[jasonu]

Bummer no history being made this year (at least for consecutive wins). Will we have to wait another 44 years for someone else to break Ago's record?

[Autech]

...well, that I didn't expect...

I did, it was only a matter of time till Pedrosa got his shit together. I would say that even if Marquez's set up was 100%, he would have had the 3 old hats ready to put him over their knee and spank him. You could tell by the grins in the press conference they were in it together.

Not taking anything away from Marquez of course, fantastic rider with all the luck in the world. BRING ON SILVERSTONE!

[Asher]

Be interesting to hear what issues MM93 was having. Bad setup? Bad tyres?
Rossi said he was sliding around a lot, but wether that was from him having an issue or just pushing hard to try and stay on the pace, I don't know.

Loved seeing mad joe make MM work for the pass

[ellipsis]

I did, it was only a matter of time till Pedrosa got his shit together. I would say that even if Marquez's set up was 100%, he would have had the 3 old hats ready to put him over their knee and spank him. You could tell by the grins in the press conference they were in it together.

Not taking anything away from Marquez of course, fantastic rider with all the luck in the world. BRING ON SILVERSTONE!


...I thought he would get the hurry up at some point soon...but getting close to a couple of secs behind 3rd place...he looked like he did not have the answer at any point of the race...

[Autech]

Be interesting to hear what issues MM93 was having. Bad setup? Bad tyres?
Rossi said he was sliding around a lot, but wether that was from him having an issue or just pushing hard to try and stay on the pace, I don't know.

Loved seeing mad joe make MM work for the pass

Yup, Mad Joe suits the Ducati to the ground IMO, lets hope he has got what it takes on the factory bike to get the Ducati to the podium week in week out!

Anyone else see Rossi taunt Marquez as he went past him?

I would say Marquez was under a hell of a lot of pressure, he looked a lot like the Marquez of last year running deep on the brakes etc. His set up was good enough to get him on to pole but it never looked like he had the pace at any stage of the race. Regardless, I have found this season to be one of the most enjoying to watch. As a Dani Pedrosa fan from way back it hasn't been easy watching him get beaten week in week out, but the way Marquez has done it has been splendid to watch.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yup, Mad Joe suits the Ducati to the ground IMO, lets hope he has got what it takes on the factory bike to get the Ducati to the podium week in week out!

.

Think you'll find he's pretty much on factory equipment now.

[jasonu]

Think you'll find he's pretty much on ill handling and hard to ride factory equipment now. Next year might be a different story but I won't hold my breath

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[HenryDorsetCase]

Is he a New Zealander? Just wondered with the way he spelt breaks.

Now is it me, or are these super slow motion replays getting a bit old? The first few times they are pretty bloody impressive, but after that they can be a bit if a yawn, and worse when there is something decent happening in the race like in the Moto 3 earlier. Cut to two bikes going around a corner in slow motion, cut back to see everything has changed at the front. It is as if they have this technology and so have to use it as least half a dozen times per race. Once or perhaps twice it is worth it, the rest is a bit arse.

I really like watching the frames and forks and swingarms working. Also elbow on ground still impresses me.

[roogazza]

Think you'll find he's pretty much on factory equipment now.
Yeah bud, can't remember where I saw it ? But he said he's had factory for some time now.
(esspecially since CC left the ship I'm supposing ?)

Did you like 29 giving it back to 93 a few times there ? Mad joe of Moto2.

[Crasherfromwayback]

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Lol. Yeah.


Yeah bud, can't remember where I saw it ? But he said he's had factory for some time now.
(esspecially since CC left the ship I'm supposing ?)

Did you like 29 giving it back to 93 a few times there ? Mad joe of Moto2.

Yeah old I'll never give up CC eh? Showing his true colours.

And for sure. Was great to watch.

[MVnut]

Was a good race in MotoGP but what about Moto3....top 16 all within 2 seconds

[Asher]

Anyone else see Rossi taunt Marquez as he went past him?


It's so quick I wasn't sure if he taunting him or taking off a tear off

[jasonu]

It's so quick I wasn't sure if he taunting him or taking off a tear off

It looked a bit like 'come on sonny lets catch up to these other 2 wankers'.

[puddytat]

Moto 3 was amazing I thought , was something like 17 in the leading group ......but poor ole 42, he wont do that again!!
As for the slowmo shit I reckon its mainly so you can see all the advertising on the bikes & I did notice pre race while they were checking out Abrahams in the pit that the coverage going on the screen behind him was delayed by a few seconds which leads me to believe that the cut aways that usually occur towards the end of races when its getting tight is so that Dorna have a "superior" product to offer their subscribers. I have noticed also in the repeats a day or so later on Sommet still have the cutaways in them at those points & haven't been edited to show the action, or they only have that footage available.:mad:

I reckon Marquez's set up wasn't quite right, he seemed pretty ragged chasing & over riding the bike at times. Farkin good race though.

[Autech]

It looked a bit like 'come on sonny lets catch up to these other 2 wankers'.

Yeah that or: "Come on, I'm the boss, I run this shit, you want to be a legend you got to beat me first!".

Yeah Moto3 was something else, felt so sorry for Rins celebrating 1 lap early. Great to see the old hats who have been at it for such a long time getting a win in. Winning can't be easy when everyone else on the track is trying to do exactly the same thing!

Miller showed his maturity, I'm thinking he is defiantly one to watch for the future. Perhaps another Stoner in the making?

[pritch]

When I got up this morning first thought was to avoid KB and Twitter, or anywhere else that might have the result before I'd seen the race. Then I thought, "Nah doesn't matter these days, the result is always the same". Wrong again!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah that or: "Come on, I'm the boss, I run this shit, you want to be a legend you got to beat me first!".



Like he did in the first ten races you mean?

[FROSTY]

What utterly stuns me is that when you look at it the difference between race winner and off the podium is a fraction of a second each lap.
Realisticly one muck up by pedrosa and he was back in second. if rossi backed off he was off the podium.
Thats pretty darn amazing stuff.
And thats moto gp--Moto 3 you don't dare blink for 40 minutes or you'll go from first to tenth place.

[denill]

]
What the fuck? No laguna seca? What is this bullshit? Indy? Fucking indy?

Went to http://www.mazdaraceway.com/rolex-monterey-motorsports-reunion on Saturday. First time and OK it wasn't a bike race, but it was like going to Meca. I realised clearly though, it is NOT a track for MotoGP.

[roogazza]

Miller showed his maturity, I'm thinking he is defiantly one to watch for the future. Perhaps another Stoner in the making?
He's defiant all right ! :rolleyes:


]

Went to http://www.mazdaraceway.com/rolex-monterey-motorsports-reunion on Saturday. First time and OK it wasn't a bike race, but it was like going to Meca. I realised clearly though, it is NOT a track for MotoGP.
Hey Bill, you touring or holidaying, haven't seen you around here much,just lately ?

[Grumph]

What utterly stuns me is that when you look at it the difference between race winner and off the podium is a fraction of a second each lap.
Realisticly one muck up by pedrosa and he was back in second. if rossi backed off he was off the podium.
Thats pretty darn amazing stuff.
And thats moto gp--Moto 3 you don't dare blink for 40 minutes or you'll go from first to tenth place.

Yeah, the level is pretty even thanks to various rules. The nearest we've ever had to that sort of thing was the old 250 proddie wars where you'd see a bunch of 10 or so RGV's going at it like Moto3 does now.
Some of the most spectacular racing in that style always came at the annual Ramage memorial race at levels. Three rows on the grid,three races with one start from each row for everybody - and 5 laps each race if I remember right. Mad agressive entertainment...

[roogazza]

Us mere mortals are on our arses every time this happens.
Seems normal for this freaky kid.

300061

[pritch]

Thanks for posting that. I saw the first shot on twitter but not the others. So MM originates a new cornering style: arse down?

[Dave-]

Us mere mortals are on our arses every time this happens.
Seems normal for this freaky kid.

300061

What the actual fuck?

His front wheel is tucked in.

Bullshit.

[roogazza]

An interesting comparison of styles.
300064

[manxkiwi]

An interesting comparison of styles.
300064

Always thought Micks style looked weird/awkward. But hey, it sure worked for him. Just shows that text book riding style, though great for most. Isn't the last word. Norick Abe was another one, looked just like Mick on the bike.

[Autech]

He's defiant all right !

Speaking of Miller: http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Oscar+Haro+interview+Updates+LCR+Honda+for+2015

[Erelyes]

Us mere mortals are on our arses every time this happens.
Seems normal for this freaky kid.

I guess the closer you are to the ground when you're leaning, the easier it is to push off it to get the bike back up! :crazy:

[denill]

Hey Bill, you touring or holidaying, haven't seen you around here much,just lately ?

Yeah Gaz, a bit of USA road trip. It was great to get LS, even tho it wasn't bikes. Great circuit to view, if ya like climbing hills. :scooter:

[Mental Trousers]

Speaking of Miller: http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Oscar+Haro+interview+Updates+LCR+Honda+for+2015

Hope it goes to Johnny Rea. He did a damn good job when he got drafted in before and surely he's getting pissed off at how long Honda have been promising a replacement for the CBR. Next years open bike is looking to be better than what everyone expected for this year.

[Crasherfromwayback]

]

. First time and OK it wasn't a bike race, but it was like going to Meca. I realised clearly though, it is NOT a track for MotoGP.

I reckon it is. Best GP I've ever been to. By miles!!!

[Autech]

Hope it goes to Johnny Rea. He did a damn good job when he got drafted in before and surely he's getting pissed off at how long Honda have been promising a replacement for the CBR. Next years open bike is looking to be better than what everyone expected for this year.

Yes must be hard winning on a 2008 machine, shows the calibre of rider he is. He did very well when replacing Stoner, lets hope they get him in soon and develop the bike ASAP. As they say the Miller thing is just rumours, hopefully they can groom him and get him some tests though so that he has his mind on the task.

[pritch]

What the actual fuck?

His front wheel is tucked in.

Bullshit.


This afternoon on Twitter there was a video clip of what is purported to be the same incident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHTwpTx61k
He is, however, after a second look wearing a different hemet? I haven't been to Brno so can't say about the track.

That did end in a disgraceful dismount, he was unhurt, picked the bike up on his own and rode away.
The explanation of the clip may appear gratuitous but I'm anticpating that Dorna will have the clip taken down.

[GD66]

Always thought Micks style looked weird/awkward. But hey, it sure worked for him.


You could HEAR Mick in tight left-handers...at Southern Loop, Siberia and T11 at The Island, he used to drape himself on the ground, foot, ankle, and leg, and particularly after the short shift and drop in on its side at T11 you could easily hear him dragging his way round the corner. Wicked ! :eek5:

[carbonhed]

Us mere mortals are on our arses every time this happens.
Seems normal for this freaky kid.

300061

That is just unbelievable isn't it? It is a privilege to watch.

[BMWST?]

What the actual fuck?

His front wheel is tucked in.

Bullshit.

yet he is still on the gas hard enough to pick up the front wheel

[speights_bud]

This afternoon on Twitter there was a video clip of what is purported to be the same incident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHTwpTx61k
He is, however, after a second look wearing a different hemet? I haven't been to Brno so can't say about the track.

That did end in a disgraceful dismount, he was unhurt, picked the bike up on his own and rode away.
The explanation of the clip may appear gratuitous but I'm anticpating that Dorna will have the clip taken down.

You know what, knowing Marquez I wouldn't be surprised if it was almost deliberate. Practising for the unplanned has already been evident in his pre-race practices. collecting data for passing the limit, looked like a pretty controlled slide to me...

[Reckless]

Well had to stay away from the net for a day or two because of other commitments but really pleased I didnt know the result.

Moto 3 all I can say is WOW poor young miller. I thought he did everything right except for the last corner? 5th but one of the best races you could watch.
Moto 2 the least good watch again.
Moto GP really pleased for Danny. He out rode all of them. Somehow (after 10 perfect races) they completely Screwed up the set up of MM bike??
JL rode well but got beat fair and square. Rossi he went in with what he thought was a bad set up but it turned out ok and the finger cant have been easy.

Very Good nights racing all in all!

[eelracing]

You know what, knowing Marquez I wouldn't be surprised if it was almost deliberate. Practising for the unplanned has already been evident in his pre-race practices. collecting data for passing the limit, looked like a pretty controlled slide to me...

Bloody spectacular to watch but is he really in control?
I can only cast my mind back to Simoncellis fatal accident and remember it was in similar circumstances.
Simo had basically washed out the front and should of just slid out into the sandtrap.
But whether he fought it or fell off the side and unweighted the front it suddenly gripped and...well we know the rest.

[Drew]

There's no fucken control over that, I don't care who you are. His foot is off the outside peg, he is literally getting off the bike.

It's luck. Ask anyone who's done something similar.

[pritch]

It's luck. Ask anyone who's done something similar.

You may be right but MM wouldn't admit it because seeing that will worry his opposition.
Then again there is what Gary Player said when a TV type described one of his shots as lucky. "The more I practice, the luckier I get."

[speights_bud]

Of course he is, the question is whether it's deliberate or not... :p

[Autech]

I remember a race in Moto2 where Marquez lost the front like that and pushed the bike up with his elbow...

Speaking of Moto2, is anyone else finding it, not boring, but not as interesting this year as in previous years?

[Drew]

Of course he is, the question is whether it's deliberate or not... :p
Nobody crashes a bike on purpose, and that's what he did. Look how far he rolled off the bike before it hooked back up. He was a gone, and luck prevailed.

It aint like the old days before riders hung off the inside, and sledged the front to the apex to scrub off speed.

[Badjelly]

Bloody spectacular to watch but is he really in control?
I can only cast my mind back to Simoncellis fatal accident and remember it was in similar circumstances.
Simo had basically washed out the front and should of just slid out into the sandtrap.
But whether he fought it or fell off the side and unweighted the front it suddenly gripped and...well we know the rest.

Exactly my thoughts.

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So the black line on the way in is from the front sledging across the track?

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Nobody crashes a bike on purpose, and that's what he did. Look how far he rolled off the bike before it hooked back up. He was a gone, and luck prevailed.

It aint like the old days before riders hung off the inside, and sledged the front to the apex to scrub off speed.
You dont know what he was doing,we already know he pushes the front like no one else on the way in to the apex,i think he WAS seeing what would happen if he pushed it more,it was a slow corner