MotoGP 2014

[Shaun Harris]

This could be accurate but I hope not - and it isn't the anglophones that are worrying me. If Miller bowled Marquez that wouldn't bother me at all because that's how Marquez took the lead in the title chase from Miller. It would be only karma if that was how Miller got it back. If my memory serves that's similar to how AM's big brother dealt with Pol Espagero's challenge in Moto2?

Oxley probably had it right, he didn't want the emotional investment involved in supporting anybody in this. Good for him. Unfortunately I can't maintain the same distance. Ah well :corn:


What race are you claiming that Marquez knocked Miller off mate? Personally I do not think he did or has

[Pumba]

.......

However, Rossi also acknowledged, “But at the same time it will be very, very hard, because firstly I expect Jorge to be very strong from the beginning. At the beginning of this year he had some problems but from Sachsening he’s been so strong at all the tracks, so he is a real contender. Then with Marc we cannot forget that he won 12 races this year. That is ten more than me and he has a lot of points advantage!”

“So to try to fight for the championship with these two guys we have to make another step. I will try.”

So reading betweens the lines does Rossi not consider Pedro a threat, or just less of a threat than the other two?

[speights_bud]

So reading betweens the lines does Rossi not consider Pedro a threat, or just less of a threat than the other two?
Boom, there it is.... So where will Alex Marquez fit in the Honda family in 2 years time? I can't see him signing with anyone else. MM says his younger brother is faster than him, would they put him on 'second level' equipment like the lcr Honda? move over Dani...?

[pritch]

So reading betweens the lines does Rossi not consider Pedro a threat, or just less of a threat than the other two?

IIRC Lorenzo can take second place in the championship from Rossi, Pedro can't now.

Miller when asked about the upcoming race, "the race will be rough and tough and dirty and grimy like they've always been".
Asked about the points position, "I left school at fourteen so I'm not good with numbers".

[pritch]

What race are you claiming that Marquez knocked Miller off mate? Personally I do not think he did or has

That could come down to semantics, but AM took the lead in the championship after contact between them following which Miller went off the track. It would only be three or four races back but I haven't time to look right now.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What race are you claiming that Marquez knocked Miller off mate? Personally I do not think he did or has


That could come down to semantics, but AM took the lead in the championship after contact between them following which Miller went off the track. It would only be three or four races back but I haven't time to look right now.

Never did. Miller mad contact with Marquez and ran over his own foot and went down in a heap. I've seen far more aggressive moves from Miller on Marquez than vice versa. That's not to say I'm not all for it... :headbang:

[k14]

That could come down to semantics, but AM took the lead in the championship after contact between them following which Miller went off the track. It would only be three or four races back but I haven't time to look right now.
That was back at Aragon. In that case IMO Miller took himself out. Put himself on the outside of Marquez on a partially wet track and just expected Marquez to slow down somehow. Miller is a great racer to watch but still has a few things to learn about race craft. That incident was one of them.

[steveyb]

Agree, Miller took himself out. It was a tough pass (Aragon) but he ran over his own foot which launched the bike.
In another situation he would have held his leg/body better and not allowed that to happen, or his foot would have just slipped and nothing would have come of it.
One of those things.
But there have been other incidents where Millar and Marquez (remember Austin, last lap or was that last year????? LOL) have gone down when they need not have.

[Reckless]

They are being all Lovey Dovey now Obviously had the word :) We shall See :)

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2014/news

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Marquez and Miller have the last word on title showdown
Marquez and Miller preview Valencia title battle
Thursday, 6 November 2014
Ahead of this weekend’s Gran Premio Generali de la Comunitat Valenciana where the 2014 Moto3™ World Championship title fight will conclude at the last race of the season, lightweight class protagonists Alex Marquez and Jack Miller faced the media together on Thursday afternoon.
Estrella Galicia 0,0 rider Marquez has the support of the home crowd this weekend at Valencia and is also 11 points clear at the top of the standings, but his Red Bull KTM Ajo rival Miller is equally determined to take the Moto3™ title.

For his part, Marquez looked ahead to the weekend’s action, saying, “Here I want to work as I always do and see on Saturday night what our grid position is. Friday and Saturday we must focus on rhythm and feeling with the bike. I’m confident me and the team can get a really good feeling with the bike.”

“You have to ride to win in Moto3. The races are crazy, you can win the race or finish fifth or sixth! Here the straights are a bit shorter so the slipstream might not be as important as in Sepang. I think it’s a good track for us and the bike to try and win the race. We’ll see what it’s like Sunday.”

The young Spaniard added, “I’m sure we will have a really nice race here and it will be amazing to battle for the title. We have to focus during the race and see what happens in the last laps.”

Miller gave his view on the 2014 season so far and this weekend’s title showdown, commenting, “We gelled great with the team straight away this year and the racing has been spectacular. I take my hat off to all the other riders for helping to create such a great season. I’m so happy to end my Moto3 career on such a level and to come here fighting for the title. It’s been such a great year and I can’t thank the team and everyone enough for giving us this chance.”

“Unless someone makes a big mistake and lets the other group catch up, you can’t really have a strategy in Moto3. You have no idea what the 12 guys behind you or the five in front of you are going to do.”

The Australian star also said, “We’ve had a lot of focus in the last GPs and we know what we have to do. We’ve had some mistakes in Assen and Mugello, they were stupid mistakes. We’ve had five victories and these mistakes really cost us. We’ve got the momentum going after the last few GPs. Alex has been riding amazing recently so it’ll be hard, all we can do is ride as hard as we can on Sunday.”

[roogazza]

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careful Horhey you'll laugh.

[Pumba]

IIRC Lorenzo can take second place in the championship from Rossi, Pedro can't now.

I thought he was talking about next season more than the current one.

[speights_bud]

Just browsing through millers tweets from the last few weeks...http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/07/6e7ff73f4673c0c03b0eb992ed090ca5.jpg

[denill]

<a href=http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/motor-sport/jack-miller-goes-from-riding-minibikes-in-townsville-to-luxury-lifestyle-of-motogp-star/story-fnp0lxk6-1227065301814>Jack Miller's parents came to Australia from Hawkes Bay in New Zealand in 1988:</A>

[Reckless]

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careful Horhey you'll laugh.

Did ya see the whole pre race interview 45 mins of it bloody interesting!
Felt a but sorry for Randy tho!
I'd pay for the GP feed just for those!

[BMWST?]

There was discussion on Twitter some months ago by Smith and Laverty about how they are treated by airline staff. Young guys in hoodies and shorts , who may look as if they've lost their razor, frequently get questioned as to their right to be in the club lounge.

Alex Briggs who has a couple of decades on the young blokes experiences this several times a year as well. His latest:
"This is the business class check in."
"I am travelling business class."
"You don't look like a business class passenger"
"What does a (expletive optional) business class passenger look like?"

He said it happened to Mick Doohan once when Doohan could probably have afforded to buy the aeroplane.

Anyhoo the whole circus is underway again for the last time this year...

yes stereo types eh....a friend works at a bmw car dealer.A Pacific Islander came into the dealership wearing typical outdoor attire complete with boots, dirty jeans,hoody and hi viz.My mate approached him .He wanted to test drive an X5.He did and paid "cash" right then and then

[ellipsis]

...I helped deliver a classic boat to its new owner, Akaroa to Auckland...the skipper was a racist cunt, as it transpired...we arrived at Westhaven and a short, nearly afro hairstyled maori bloke took the stern line, tied her off and jumped on board...the cunt at the wheel yelled out...'oi you ya black cunt, get off my boat...it was the the new owner, the deal fell through...I larfed and larfed, then went and got on the piss with the 'black cunt'...

[Drew]

If I am looking scruffy, I've got problem with people treating me differently. So long as there is respect.

Not looking like 99% of business class customers, you're gonna get questioned.

[pritch]

...I helped deliver a classic boat to its new owner, Akaroa to Auckland...the skipper was a racist cunt, as it transpired...we arrived at Westhaven and a short, nearly afro hairstyled maori bloke took the stern line, tied her off and jumped on board...the cunt at the wheel yelled out...'oi you ya black cunt, get off my boat...it was the the new owner, the deal fell through...I larfed and larfed, then went and got on the piss with the 'black cunt'...

Gotta share the love...

[roogazza]

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toot toot ! all aboard ! <_<:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[speights_bud]

If I am looking scruffy, I've got problem with people treating me differently. So long as there is respect.

Not looking like 99% of business class customers, you're gonna get questioned.
Apparently a few business class clients and airport staff in oz got a bit shitty.

The fly in fly out mining workers were making use of their air points etc to upgrade and would rock up to the lounge in all their gear after work and then go use the fancy facilities to scrub up before boarding.

If the workers are paying the ticket price then everyone else can suck it.

If they think they are special they could always fly in the suites class:

http://dereklow.co/what-its-like-to-fly-the-23000-singapore-airlines-suites-class/

[Drew]

Apparently a few business class clients and airport staff in oz got a bit shitty.

The fly in fly out mining workers were making use of their air points etc to upgrade and would rock up to the lounge in all their gear after work and then go use the fancy facilities to scrub up before boarding.

If the workers are paying the ticket price then everyone else can suck it.

If they think they are special they could always fly in the suites class:

http://dereklow.co/what-its-like-to-fly-the-23000-singapore-airlines-suites-class/
I am that mining worker.

[R650R]

Used to deliver the booze to the Akld airport lounges, there was no rear entrance for ansett or anz although anz eventually did suss something out via kitchen.
It was a sad day when ansett went tits up, generally the customers were normal and the hostess babes running the show ere fun and relaxed types.
By comparison wheeling a trolley of booze through koro club was like interrupting a funeral, lots of snobby looks...

Anyone who judges like that, always ends up their loss, some great stories above :) A toast to jandal wearing in public too :)

[roogazza]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/210725/1/crutchlow-front-row-was-within-our-reach.html
Nothing from his twin yet (BS).
jeeze I hope he flops next year.:bleh::bleh:

[GD66]

Come on, Gaz. Clearly the windy conditions weren't affecting any other riders.



I don't so much hope he flops next year, as expect him to. There's a widening gulf between expectation and reality there that his constant bullshitting isn't closing.
Surprised even myself when I burst into loud laughter when I saw him standing forlornly in the gravel trap on the last lap of Phillip Island, saying, "What was the delay?"

I've gotta be more supportive...

[roogazza]

Come on, Gaz. Clearly the windy conditions weren't affecting any other riders.

I don't so much hope he flops next year, as expect him to. There's a widening gulf between expectation and reality there that his constant bullshitting isn't closing.
Surprised even myself when I burst into loud laughter when I saw him standing forlornly in the gravel trap on the last lap of Phillip Island, saying, "What was the delay?"

I've gotta be more supportive...

too tough on him ya thunk ??? :nya::nya::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[mr bucketracer]

what time does the race start?

[speights_bud]

Motogp.com

[ellipsis]

22.45 on Sommet Sports

[mr bucketracer]

22.45 on Sommet Sportsthanks ...

[steveyb]

Forget any claim to him as a Kiwi, the Aussies can fucken keep him with that attitude.
I know he is young, but his lack of grace is most unedifying.

[ellipsis]

...yip...

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[The Chow]

Forget any claim to him as a Kiwi, the Aussies can fucken keep him with that attitude.
I know he is young, but his lack of grace is most unedifying. couldn't agree more Steve .

[eelracing]

Don't sweat the small fry fella's,the class act in this show just took 13 wins in a season.

[speights_bud]

Yep watching Miller made me think of Stoner, then I thought about Pedrosa and how mentally tough he has had to be over the years. Perhaps I've been a bit harsh thinking he's a miserable bastard in the past. ..


The Miller/Crutchlow team next year will be an interesting to see how they feed off each other

[roogazza]

Forget any claim to him as a Kiwi, the Aussies can fucken keep him with that attitude.
I know he is young, but his lack of grace is most unedifying.

Agree.classic stale bottle of piss.
Like Stoner, I see Miller left school at age 14. The latter years of schooling are invaluable it seems. :brick: <_<

[Grumph]

Agree.classic stale bottle of piss.
Like Stoner, I see Miller left school at age 14. The latter years of schooling are invaluable it seems. :brick: <_<

Like a puppy, not well socialised...Be interesting to see if he learns from this that it's up to him to deliver consistently - or if he has a chip on his shoulder for the rest of his career.

[Bender]

The rain surely has Jorge spooked since his big crash at Assen last year. The mere hint and he starts riding like me.

[steveyb]

Forget any claim to him as a Kiwi, the Aussies can fucken keep him with that attitude.
I know he is young, but his lack of grace is most unedifying.

I mean, not even a public handshake or congratulation. He made a show of not even looking at Alex and went on during the interview about the Aragon crash (which was just as much his fault, he can dish it but not take it) then said "But we won't go there".
But you already did you passive/aggressive numb-nuts!!!
His face on the podium was like a smacked arse.
Jeez, what a dick. You can be assured that the Japanese will not have let that go unnoticed.
Stoner got away with it because while he was a dick, he was a special type of dick and believe it or not, he had the grace to congratulate his opponents.
One can only hope that Miller learns quickly to grow the F up.

[ellipsis]

...total agreement...the three world champs are great ambassadors of the sport, as they should be...even when things don't really go their way...whatever positive thoughts for Miller I had are now dust, with that kind of display...

[James Deuce]

At least Miller brought some interest to an otherwise tedious year of racing.

[merv]

Suzuki, WTF. Time to roll out the old GSVR 990 V4 again I'd say and see if they can turn that into something worthwhile.

[Oscar]

Suzuki, WTF. Time to roll out the old GSVR 990 V4 again I'd say and see if they can turn that into something worthwhile.

Shit that's a bit tough.
It's their first outing, as a wildcard with a development rider - what did you expect?

[James Deuce]

I don't think you could have expected anything else from the Suzuki. A race distance finish will be a major achievement.

[Oscar]

I don't think you could have expected anything else from the Suzuki. A race distance finish will be a major achievement.

They've got two new riders and 140 days before the next race, I think they'll come up with summat.

[James Deuce]

They've got two new riders and 140 days before the next race, I think they'll come up with summat.

I'm not holding my breath. I really do think a race finish will be something to celebrate. Then they can look at going after the customer Ducatis and NGM Forward.

[merv]

Lol, those were the days - last race of the 990 era John Hopkins on the Suzuki finished ahead of Valentino Rossi on the Yamaha as Vale crashed and then rejoined the race - can't remember that race really but the Ducatis were 1 and 2 and that's before Stoner was their boy:

http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2006/MotoGP/VAL/RAC/classification.pdf?v1_9c890819

In this latest race the Suzuki couldn't even manage the top speed of most of the open class Hondas and it was so funny how Honda were so badly bagged early in the year but clearly Nakamoto had built exactly what Dorna wanted - something to replace CRT - and then Dorna changed the rules again to allow Ducati some advantage and Suzuki have been given some advantage too. So why is the bike so slow in comparison as they have been testing it a while now and should have been able to figure that out.

Comparisons here http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2014/VAL/MotoGP/RAC/Analysis.pdf?v1_4b6c1bf7

Marc Marquez 329.3 km/hr, Randy 309.4 km/hr.

[Mental Trousers]

They've got two new riders and 140 days before the next race, I think they'll come up with summat.

I'm not holding my breath. I really do think a race finish will be something to celebrate. Then they can look at going after the customer Ducatis and NGM Forward.

You're such a cynical bastard. But I have to agree with you.

[merv]

Lol, and yeah they've got to beat Avintia and Ioda first.

[speights_bud]

Marc Marquez 329.3 km/hr, Randy 309.4 km/hr.

And that's not even on a track with long straights

[merv]

I guess we'll see fairly soon if Aleix and Maverick can squeeze any more out of it.

[FROSTY]

dang I was going to start a new thread re Millar. Was it just a bad case of sour grapes?
By the way he seemed not upset but boiling angry I got the impression something had actually happened during that race to piss him off.
I couldn't see what it was though.
If it was just bitter disappointment at beng beaten then yep he needs to grow up

[mr bucketracer]

go Millar ! say pissed off but hay they all pack shits when they fall off and he's sucked it in until now , like to see the spaniards beaten as they push the sport like allblacks

[ducatilover]

Are all Australian sportsmen whinging fucks?

[GD66]

Miller is a kiwi ! :bleh:

[ellipsis]

...Miller is not a kiwi and no, not all oz sportsmen are whingers...facts...although these things can always be debated...

[Drew]

Who cares where he's from? He wasn't the best this season, and he was a cock about it.

[ellipsis]

...and today is the start of next season...

[Berries]

Who cares where he's from? He wasn't the best this season, and he was a cock about it.
At least he has now had a hair cut -

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[eelracing]

I guess we'll see fairly soon if Aleix and Maverick can squeeze any more out of it.

Not to shabby so far.

[Bender]

Ahhhh shit, Suzuki has soaked up two of the most exciting riders in the sport and is going to put them on bikes that, after two years of work, can't even manage mid-field pace, and blew up before the end of the race. It's going to be a long, hard season for those boys.

Looks like Crutchlow has made another monumentally bad decision too. The LCR Honda, with Bradl aboard, was well off the pace of the current Ducatis - and the GP15 is due to make its debut in the tests. Every time the man makes a move it's to a slower bike. A few more and he'll be Mike DiMeglio's team mate.

[James Deuce]

A few more and he'll be Mike DiMeglio's team mate.

Or moving to Moto3

[Crasherfromwayback]

I mean, not even a public handshake or congratulation. He made a show of not even looking at Alex and went on during the interview about the Aragon crash (which was just as much his fault, he can dish it but not take it) then said "But we won't go there".
But you already did you passive/aggressive numb-nuts!!!
His face on the podium was like a smacked arse.
Jeez, what a dick. You can be assured that the Japanese will not have let that go unnoticed.
Stoner got away with it because while he was a dick, he was a special type of dick and believe it or not, he had the grace to congratulate his opponents.
One can only hope that Miller learns quickly to grow the F up.

Couldn't agree more.

[speights_bud]

MM might have been given the day off testing but looks like alex is joining him for a maiden ride on a motogp bike.

[speights_bud]

Ten charazards...

[Reckless]

MM might have been given the day off testing but looks like alex is joining him for a maiden ride on a motogp bike.
The old and the new LOL


Ten charazards...
The future

I must say MM was genuinely stoked. Cant help but think of what a great Dad (family) they must have!
MM fully open to his brother joining him in MotoGP to. I fully expect them to be together for Honda soon.

I feel a bit for Miller but with all his club and national racing he should have learned to control his disappointment better than that.
He looked gutted right through to his soul, but the bad results mid season came back to bite his ass. Sportsmanship is taught another up's for Father Marquez.
Miller is correct tho best race I've seen him ride.

Jlo will be gutted but Rossi was on a mission, good on the old bugger. They are still gonna have to do some work on that Yammy for next season tho. MM still fucked off and left them for dead?

One of the best season overall. We gonna share the subscription again so we can get it all. Quite hooked on those 40 min pre race interviews :)

[k14]

MM might have been given the day off testing but looks like alex is joining him for a maiden ride on a motogp bike.
I wonder what the chances are of Alex replacing Danny at Honda in 1-2 years time and having a dual Marquez Repsol Honda team. That could make for some very interesting racing!

[speights_bud]

I wonder what the chances are of Alex replacing Danny at Honda in 1-2 years time and having a dual Marquez Repsol Honda team. That could make for some very interesting racing!



Boom, there it is.... So where will Alex Marquez fit in the Honda family in 2 years time? I can't see him signing with anyone else. MM says his younger brother is faster than him, would they put him on 'second level' equipment like the lcr Honda? move over Dani...?
My thoughts exactly, he's already a part of the Honda family.

[Reckless]

I wonder what the chances are of Alex replacing Danny at Honda in 1-2 years time and having a dual Marquez Repsol Honda team. That could make for some very interesting racing!

Official Opinion

Meanwhile, in an interview with Spanish newspaper El Periodico, the HRC Executive Vice President Shuhei Nakamoto has commented on the possibility of Honda one day fielding current MotoGP World Champion Marc Marquez and his brother Alex Marquez in the same team.
Younger sibling Alex secured the Moto3 title this weekend at Valencia and will move up to Moto2 next year. On the idea of the two brothers one day riding together in Honda’s official MotoGP factory team, Nakamoto said, "the possibility exists and Honda can consider it, but we need to see how Alex develops. I can see them teaming up but not because they are brothers and that would be something interesting in itself, but because they could become the top two in MotoGP.”

[steveyb]

One perhaps very small, but I think significant differences between the M1 and the RC213V (although it might be the riders, or perhaps a mix of both) became obvious at Valencia, although I had noticed it before.
Right in the middle of corners, both medium and slower, the Honda riders are able to dip the bike an extra 3-5 degrees and hence make a quicker turn than the Yamaha, and hence make up a few metres or accelerate a few metres earlier.
It seems that the Yamaha riders are committed to stay at a constant angle more or less, once they are in the corner.
In the faster corners the Honda riders are able to much more subtly moderate the throttle to get the rear out of line with the front and steer a tighter line than the Yamaha.
Added up over race distance, a couple of metres here and there add up.
Marc was doing this from the middle of last year and Dani is doing it this year, although it has not worked too well for him.
You can see it in the slow-mo shots too where they dip their bodies in the middle of the turns.
Looking at RdP riding the GXS-RR, his style is very much PM (pre-Marquez). This new Marquez style is being adopted by all of the younger Moto3 and Moto2 graduands.

[Oscar]

I'm not holding my breath. I really do think a race finish will be something to celebrate. Then they can look at going after the customer Ducatis and NGM Forward.

Aleix Espargaro ran 12th in testing today.
Faster than Pirro on the factory Duc

[James Deuce]

Aleix Espargaro ran 12th in testing today.
Faster than Pirro on the factory Duc

That's testing. Testing always flatters to deceive, as do the first couple of races of the year. I don't know why people think I'm being negative when I say that a race finish will be the primary goal of Suzuki and a major achievement. It's a brand new bike in a different formula to the one they used to race in.

Going on past behaviour from the last 35 years, Suzuki will have some minor success and then half-arse it and then give up due to a lack of results, probably in 2018, or maybe stretching into 2019 UNLESS they acquire a rider of Kevin Schwantz's stature who does things with the bike that shouldn't be possible and then they'll think they're doing really well until that rider crashes his brains out trying to keep up and retires early due to frustration and ever increasing injury recovery times.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I feel a bit for Miller but with all his club and national racing he should have learned to control his disappointment better than that.
He looked gutted right through to his soul, but the bad results mid season came back to bite his ass. Sportsmanship is taught another up's for Father Marquez.
Miller is correct tho best race I've seen him ride.

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I couldn't agree less. That is without a doubt, in my eyes..the dirtiest racing I've ever seen and I think the guy is a fucking queer cunt. I'm all for hard and tough racing...but trying your best actually clean your main competitor out? Nah. And then to be such a bad sport about it too? Nah.

[Reckless]

I couldn't agree less. That is without a doubt, in my eyes..the dirtiest racing I've ever seen and I think the guy is a fucking queer cunt. I'm all for hard and tough racing...but trying your best actually clean your main competitor out? Nah. And then to be such a bad sport about it too? Nah.

Yup I can see how someone can have that POV. We'll see if MotoGP sorts him out like it did MM.
Seems to be enjoying it though http://www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sport/moto-gp/jack-miller-calls-first-day-of-2015-motogp-testing-the-best-day-of-my-life-logs-impressive-times/story-fn2ms4i4-1227119290278?sv=1e6b8cb87f71159afa15b64a5bb24008# .VGFnEEVc6PA.facebook

Results if you cant open the Facebook link - See they've even got Alex Marquez in there LOL

RESULTS — MotoGP Testing, Valencia Day 1
1. (99) Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) 1m30.975s
2. (44) Pol Espargaro (Yamaha) +0.143s
3. (38) Bradley Smith (Yamaha) +0.229s
4. (46) Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) +0.275s
5. (29) Andrea Iannone (Ducati) +0.490s
6. (26) Dani Pedrosa (Honda) +0.627s
7. (4) Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati) +0.669s
8. (35) Cal Crutchlow (Honda) +0.872s
9. (51) Michele Pirro (Ducati) +1.079s
10. (68) Yonny Hernandez (Ducati) +1.171s
11. (8) Hector Barbera (Ducati) +1.215s
12. (6) Stefan Bradl (Forward Yamaha) +1.234s
13. (9) Danilo Petrucci (Ducati) +1.339s
14. (41) Aleix Espargaro (Suzuki) +1.340s
15. (45) Scott Redding (Honda) +2.023s
16. (15) Alex de Angelis (ART) +2.157s
17. (25) Maverick Vinales (Suzuki) +2.293s
18. (17) Karel Abraham (Honda) +2.471s
19. (63) Mike Di Meglio (Ducati) +2.619s
20. (76) Loris Baz (Forward Yamaha) +2.859s
21. (50) Eugene Laverty (Honda) +3.345s
22. (43) Jack Miller (Honda) +3.658s
23. (19) Alvaro Bautista (Aprilia) +3.944s
24. (66) Alex Hofmann (Aprilia) +4.671s
25. (33) Marco Melandri (Honda) +4.984s
26. (93) Marc Marquez (Honda) +5.206s
27. (93) Alex Marquez (Honda) +5.683s
NC (69) Nicky Hayden (Honda) NTR

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yup I can see how someone can have that POV. We'll see if MotoGP sorts him out like it did MM.


Hey...I hope the guy goes well and adds more to Moto GP. But he'll want to clean his act up alright. It's a fucking credit to Alex Marquez that he kept such a cool head after so many dirty cheap shots by Miller.

[Erelyes]

Hey...I hope the guy goes well and adds more to Moto GP. But he'll want to clean his act up alright. It's a fucking credit to Alex Marquez that he kept such a cool head after so many dirty cheap shots by Miller.

The chance of him un-cunting himself is probably the same as Suzuki winning the manufacturer's title next year.

One thing's for sure, if he runs over his own foot with a 150kg bike it'll hurt more than an 80kg one.

[Drew]

Just saw the Moto3 race. That little cunt Miller is a world class cock.

[BMWST?]

Agree.classic stale bottle of piss.
Like Stoner, I see Miller left school at age 14. The latter years of schooling are invaluable it seems. :brick: <_<


you are wrong.The die is cast for social skills in the younger years,Read Stoners book and you will perhaps understand his behaviour a bit more.

[BMWST?]

I mean, not even a public handshake or congratulation. He made a show of not even looking at Alex and went on during the interview about the Aragon crash (which was just as much his fault, he can dish it but not take it) then said "But we won't go there".
But you already did you passive/aggressive numb-nuts!!!
His face on the podium was like a smacked arse.
Jeez, what a dick. You can be assured that the Japanese will not have let that go unnoticed.
Stoner got away with it because while he was a dick, he was a special type of dick and believe it or not, he had the grace to congratulate his opponents.
One can only hope that Miller learns quickly to grow the F up.


and Stoner won races and championships.There was a handshake between the two just before the podium.AM was clearly uncomfortable and didnt seem to know whatt to do /say.Not his problem though.I did admire JM s riding though,he did everything he could,albeit too late

[Drew]

and Stoner won races and championships.There was a handshake between the two just before the podium.AM was clearly uncomfortable and didnt seem to know whatt to do /say.Not his problem though.I did admire JM s riding though,he did everything he could,albeit too late
Did everything he could, including trying to run Marquez off the track twice from what I saw.

The guy's a fucken tool.

[pritch]

Well it seems I missed something. Having recorded the races I only finished watching them today and I didn't watch any of the parc ferme/podium ceremonies - once each race finished I switched off. With the races cleaned out of the system, and my MotoGP sub expired, Miller's belicose behaviour will have to remain a mystery to me.

My West Australian brother reports that he has just read the copy of Stoner's book that I sent him and he didn't see any suggestion that Casey was a strange wee man. None so blind...

David Emmett commented re the Suzuki that when the engines run fine on the dyno but crap out on the track the finger of suspicion points at oil supply. They have time.

I note that several Moto3 riders received a point each for loitering on track. Seems Race Direction are trying to sort the caravans.

After all Dorna's talk about taking the series to Asia, there is to be a new round in Austria? Meantime WSBK is going to Thailand.

Ah well, soon be March.

[ducatilover]

Did everything he could, including trying to run Marquez off the track twice from what I saw.

The guy's a fucken tool.

Pretty certain he needs a smack between the eyes. He can ride insanely well, but he's a cunt about it. Arrogant and spoiled shithead.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Did everything he could, including trying to run Marquez off the track twice from what I saw.

The guy's a fucken tool.

At least twice. And that's only this round. And the supercharged Kawasaki is as cool as shit! :baby:

[Drew]

At least twice. And that's only this round. And the supercharged Kawasaki is as cool as shit! :baby:

We can agree that Miller is a tard, and that a supercharged bike is cool.

[roogazza]

you are wrong.The die is cast for social skills in the younger years,Read Stoners book and you will perhaps understand his behaviour a bit more.
maybe they are,I'm no child psychologist, but as an ex policeman I know a smack in the mouth in teen years can alter perceptions.

[pritch]

maybe they are,I'm no child psychologist, but as an ex policeman I know a smack in the mouth in teen years can alter perceptions.

Reminds me of a callow youth that I worked with briefly. There was also employed at the same place a patched 1%er biker and the young bloke was giving him shit. Junior was warned by all and sundry, but he insisted that while they were at work the 1%er couldn't touch him.

Now the biker worked in the workshop and one day junior was sent down to the workshop from the showroom on some errand, as he arrived in the workshop where biker and one other mechanic were working on a piece of machinery, the biker held up some minor part and said to his mate, "No wonder this thing isn't working, this is fucked."

Junior promptly piped up. "That's what's wrong with you, your nuts are fucked."

WHACK! WHACK! Junior is off back to the showroom at speed, tears streaming down and a big red handprint either side of his face.
The boss saw him coming, "Go away, I don't want to hear about it. You were told."

Now some young people may have adjusted their perceptions at that point but apparently not our hero. A couple of weeks later he was involved in a traffic accident at an intersection near here. He promptly climbed out of his vehicle and commenced to give the other driver the benefit of his expertise. The other driver gave him a straight right punch in the mouth. Last I heard of him he was sitting on his arse in the middle of the intersection. He may well have commenced altering his perceptions?

[FROSTY]

Hey guys I must be blind. I saw Millar stick to his line on several occasions and marquez bounced off of him. In the full speed shots it looked like millar had hit Marquez but slo mo and it looks the other way round.
It looks to me like millar hasn't got used to the suptle dirty tricks.
At las they weren't elbowing each other in the ribs-aye wiggles??

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hey guys I must be blind.

Very clearly.

[FROSTY]

Very clearly.
Why did the commentators constantly refer to the phrase "gave a he got earlier in the season"?

[Drew]

Why did the commentators constantly refer to the phrase "gave a he got earlier in the season"?

That sentence makes no sense.

Putting yourself onbthe inside another rider, sharply standing the bike up then lying it down again. Yeah, that's clean as a whistle.

Then to show that much attitude in the interview afterwards, and display a big chip on your shoulder.

Fuck wittery, pure and simple.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Why did the commentators constantly refer to the phrase "gave a he got earlier in the season"?

Cause they're obviously cock smoking dreamers. Blind as well.

[Shaun Harris]

Hey guys I must be blind. I saw Millar stick to his line on several occasions and marquez bounced off of him. In the full speed shots it looked like millar had hit Marquez but slo mo and it looks the other way round.
It looks to me like millar hasn't got used to the suptle dirty tricks.
At las they weren't elbowing each other in the ribs-aye wiggles??


we can all say what we like on here about Miller and others, but it is RACE CONTROLLER Mike Webb that has the final say, and he did not penalise Miller for any thing and No one Protested Miller for his riding, ( So that must tell ya all some thing) so this is all just ya typical internet talk from people who only saw it on the Television. Things do look different from a TV shot

[Drew]

we can all say what we like on here about Miller and others, but it is RACE CONTROLLER Mike Webb that has the final say, and he did not penalise Miller for any thing and No one Protested Miller for his riding, ( So that must tell ya all some thing) so this is all just ya typical internet talk from people who only saw it on the Television. Things do look different from a TV shot
The voice of reason...Bollucks!


We got to see it several times from different angles. Miller was being needlessly aggressive to try and force Marquez down the race order. I understand it of course, but it's a dirty way to race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

we can all say what we like on here about Miller and others, but it is RACE CONTROLLER Mike Webb that has the final say, and he did not penalise Miller for any thing and No one Protested Miller for his riding, ( So that must tell ya all some thing) so this is all just ya typical internet talk from people who only saw it on the Television. Things do look different from a TV shot

I don't know anyone that'd be happy to be attacked the way Marquez was. And I'm pretty sure he wouldn't see the need to make any form of protest seeing as he'd just (rightly) won the world title over that dirty cunt.

[Shaun Harris]

I don't know anyone that'd be happy to be attacked the way Marquez was. And I'm pretty sure he wouldn't see the need to make any form of protest seeing as he'd just (rightly) won the world title over that dirty cunt.



Im not disagreeing with what have said man, just pointing out that race director made no issue's of it.

[Oscar]

Im not disagreeing with what have said man, just pointing out that race director made no issue's of it.

He handed out a whole bunch of penalty points after the Moto3 qualifying debacle at Phillip Island, but it never got reported anywhere I could see.

[Shaun Harris]

He handed out a whole bunch of penalty points after the Moto3 qualifying debacle at Phillip Island, but it never got reported anywhere I could see.


all that info is availlable and has been posted up on many diff sites mate

[denill]

Miller: There is a lot of anti Miller comment going on here, but maybe Mike Webb didn't watch that race? Correct me (and you will) if I'm wrong, but he has taken no action against anyone. For me, that race was a brilliant, no-holds barred, cut and thrust thriller. :yes:

[Oscar]

Miller: There is a lot of anti Miller comment going on here, but maybe Mike Webb didn't watch that race? Correct me (and you will) if I'm wrong, but he has taken no action against anyone. For me, that race was a brilliant, no-holds barred, cut and thrust thriller. :yes:

He saw the race all right...

[eelracing]

Miller: There is a lot of anti Miller comment going on here, but maybe Mike Webb didn't watch that race? Correct me (and you will) if I'm wrong, but he has taken no action against anyone. For me, that race was a brilliant, no-holds barred, cut and thrust thriller. :yes:

Kinda like the 125cc racing of old then.
You know it was'nt that long ago that if a Spaniard or Italian went into the last race leading a championship then it was'nt uncommon for his fellow countrymen to gang up on the poor sap within the points chase.
Good ol days eh.

Happier news on the GSX-RR in that it has finished testing only a second behind the Honda...excellent result this early in the piece.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Happier news on the GSX-RR in that it has finished testing only a second behind the Honda...excellent result this early in the piece.

Agreed. Hope they get on the pace. Tis a truly gorgeous looking race bike!

[pritch]

He handed out a whole bunch of penalty points after the Moto3 qualifying debacle at Phillip Island, but it never got reported anywhere I could see.

I read it somewhere - and mentioned it in this forum IIRC - assuming you are referring to the group following Miller through the pits.

Mike Webb doesn't have to hear a complaint, if he thinks it's too tough he can take action. The final was always going to have hard passes, same as all the other Moto3 races. Just like Miller said before the race.

[Drew]

Credit to his ability for being able to back off a bit, try and fuck Marquez up, then get back out in front.

But it looked a lot to me like he tried to run him off the track. The commentators didn't know what to say either, so it wasn't just me who saw it that way.

[ecko_nzed]

Credit to his ability for being able to back off a bit, try and fuck Marquez up, then get back out in front.

But it looked a lot to me like he tried to run him off the track. The commentators didn't know what to say either, so it wasn't just me who saw it that way.

I think the commentators have made a career from not knowing what to say!

I thought Miller put some pretty hard moves on Marquez, but I've never raced, so can't say if it was "just racing". I have had a bit of experience with dickheads though, and young Jack was, without a doubt, being a monumental one.

Still, he is young, so hopefully someone will knock some sense into him

[Drew]

I think the commentators have made a career from not knowing what to say!

I thought Miller put some pretty hard moves on Marquez, but I've never raced, so can't say if it was "just racing". I have had a bit of experience with dickheads though, and young Jack was, without a doubt, being a monumental one.

Still, he is young, so hopefully someone will knock some sense into himYep, the commentators are pretty good at screwing it up. But they saw it and sorta trailed off after mentioning "that was a hard pass..."

[pritch]

The rider's rider of the year. This is all explained in the text, I hope it's big enough. Just in case; every MotoGP rider votes for who he thinks are the top six riders, he may not vote for himself. The votes are secret except that ianoni would only vote for five as he considered all the others to be at the same level. Interesting in a number of respects as this is how the riders rate each other.

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[pritch]

OK, that isn't very clear so here are the top ten.

1. Mark Marquez
2. Valentino Rossi
3. Jorge Lorenzo
4. Andrea Dovitzioso
5. Aleix Espagero
6. Dani Pedrosa
7. Pol Espagero
8. Andrea Ianone
9. Bradley Smith
10. Scott Redding

[ecko_nzed]

OK, that isn't very clear so here are the top ten.

1. Mark Marquez
2. Valentino Rossi
3. Jorge Lorenzo
4. Andrea Dovitzioso
5. Aleix Espagero
6. Dani Pedrosa
7. Pol Espagero
8. Andrea Ianone
9. Bradley Smith
10. Scott Redding

Cal who???

[James Deuce]

Cal who???

Yep. Hasn't exactly made a name for himself, other than Cal "Crasher" Crutchlow.

[roogazza]

I just realised I didn't watch Pedro much this year, 6th !
Iannnnone has had some great rides, I would have rated him a lot higher Pritch ?
The older Asparagas had some good races too.
Good thing you posted I was getting ready to put up Nigella thru boredom.
I see both calenders are out,WSB and GP.
Its probably best having two weeks between Italy and Catalunya.
One week and I'm tempted again.:shifty:

[pritch]

Cal who???

Well I think even he would agree he didn't have a good year. He definitely needs a better 2015. The other ummm oddities (?) for me were Pedro's placing, that'll hurt, along with the inclusion of Redding and the ommision of Hayden.

Anyhow that's how the experts saw it.

[Autech]

The way I read the whole Miller/Marquez situation post Aragon was this: Miller thought Marquez was in the wrong with how he took him off the bike, race direction said no.
Miller then chose to run the same line that Marquez did on him, every single time that he put a passing maneuver on him for the following rounds.

So basically race direction ruled it legal, Jack decided to test the legalities out and put some very hard moves on Alex. Whether you think it's fair play or not is up to you. All I know is that his ability to put the bike on the track exactly where he wanted it was outstanding.
And if his mate Danny Kent hadn't of ran a tad wide in the last lap at Valencia we may have had a happier Miller at the end of the race (he certainly had a good run on Alex). Miller should have behaved better after the race that is for sure, but it gave us something to talk about didn't it? He needs to be careful though as his sponsors will not put up with that kind of carry on with their brand plastered all over his bike.

He's looking good on the Motogp bike, lets hope he keeps his head and show's us that you don't need to be Spanish to win a championship in a few years time.

So glad to see Melandri back in Motogp, lets hope Aprilia give him a good bike eventually.

[James Deuce]

So glad to see Melandri back in Motogp, lets hope Aprilia give him a good bike eventually.

Melandri will only be there for a year, if he isn't fired half way through the season for being old and slow.

[speights_bud]

He needs to be careful though as his sponsors will not put up with that kind of carry on with their brand plastered all over his bike.

I thought it was a bit shit the white shirt he put on in Parc ferme. Final race of the season and you go and cover up all your sponsors advertising for the podium and press conference.

But then again if I was a sponsor, with his attitude on the day I don't think I would want my company name next to the chip on his shoulder.

[roogazza]

long wait till March/April next year...:confused:
Nigella.
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[DidJit]

:lol:
“You must spread some Rep... etc.”

[pritch]

long wait till March/April next year...:confused:
Nigella.
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Looks like she took pity on you and decided to make your life more interesting?

[roogazza]

Looks like she took pity on you and decided to make your life more interesting?

The 'War' paint look, is back in. Either or, No problemo. :shifty:

[jasonu]

The 'War' paint look, is back in. Either or, No problemo. :shifty:

Are you guys serious about this Nigella tart? I was in NZ last month and saw her a couple of times on the telly. Nuttin special, looks more like some worn out old splodger IMO.

[James Deuce]

Are you guys serious about this Nigella tart? I was in NZ last month and saw her a couple of times on the telly. Nuttin special, looks more like some worn out old splodger IMO.

You're from the US. Your response is somewhat coloured by the diminished responsibility that comes with being a member of an Idiocracy and utterly disregarded, largely due to your racist, homophobic, militaristic Christian Imperial stance on "Foreign Relations". Also, anyone who thinks that private firearms ownership is any kind of "solution" is a berk.

[jasonu]

You're from the US. Your response is somewhat coloured by the diminished responsibility that comes with being a member of an Idiocracy and utterly disregarded, largely due to your racist, homophobic, militaristic Christian Imperial stance on "Foreign Relations". Also, anyone who thinks that private firearms ownership is any kind of "solution" is a berk.

Um except I'm from NZ...
Mutton dressed up as lamb is a pretty accurate description.
But what ever gets you hard I suppose.

[roogazza]

Are you guys serious about this Nigella tart? I was in NZ last month and saw her a couple of times on the telly. Nuttin special, looks more like some worn out old splodger IMO.
C'mon George Clooney.
You're free to pop up a bird of choice you know ? :bleh:

[denill]

Oh no Gaz. That guy has no taste. And, he's probably anti VR as well. :(

[denill]

Seeing it's a bit quiet bike wise, are Manu and Melandri still an item. I've missed her.....:yes:

[roogazza]

They're parents now Bill, a daughter I think ? Manu :drool::drool:

[pritch]

Are you guys serious about this Nigella tart?

Leave me outa that, but Gaz and my brother would have someting to chat about. And she does seem to have a certain way of licking a spoon?

[Autech]

Seeing it's a bit quiet bike wise, are Manu and Melandri still an item. I've missed her.....:yes:

He dedicated one of his WSBK wins to her belly, so I'm picking so.

[denill]

Take your eyes off Nigella Gaz and watch: <a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Dec/141201b.htm>This.</A>

[Reckless]

Take your eyes off Nigella Gaz and watch: <a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Dec/141201b.htm>This.</A>

Great Pass thanks for that Denill :)

[James Deuce]

Yeah, that's cool. It was under a blue flag though, but the other guy did a great job of staying out of his way on the exit.

[Banditbandit]

long wait till March/April next year...:confused:
Nigella.


Nigella ???

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02597/nigella2_2597372b.jpg

http://au.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2013811/rs_634x1024-130911163410-634.Nigella-Lawson-LA.ms.091113.jpg



Are you guys serious about this Nigella tart? I was in NZ last month and saw her a couple of times on the telly. Nuttin special, looks more like some worn out old splodger IMO.

Yes .. without the makeup and the air brushing I wouldn't give her a second look

[Reckless]

Aww Don't burst his fantasy Bubble :eek: mean buggers :bleh:

Here ya go mate focus on this one

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[Oscar]

Aww Don't burst his fantasy Bubble :eek: mean buggers :bleh:

Here ya go mate focus on this one

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Oh jeez - how am I gonna explain that stain...?!

[roogazza]

Aww Don't burst his fantasy Bubble :eek: mean buggers :bleh:

Here ya go mate focus on this one

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Saved with thanks
:laugh::rolleyes::eek::niceone::first::clap::cool: :banana::killingme:drool::woohoo::corn::shifty::o: )

[denill]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/212519/1/marc-marquez-moving-to-andorra.html>Marquez - whose new Repsol Honda deal is rumoured to pay 10 million euros per year - would face 49% tax in Spain, compared with 30,000 euros (plus one-off 50,000 euros entrance fee) in Andorra:</A> And more.

[ecko_nzed]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/212519/1/marc-marquez-moving-to-andorra.html>Marquez - whose new Repsol Honda deal is rumoured to pay 10 million euros per year - would face 49% tax in Spain, compared with 30,000 euros (plus one-off 50,000 euros entrance fee) in Andorra:</A> And more.

Dang! And we whinge at 33% in NZ. Well I suppose we aren't in quite as much financial shit as the Spaniards

[roogazza]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/212519/1/marc-marquez-moving-to-andorra.html>Marquez - whose new Repsol Honda deal is rumoured to pay 10 million euros per year - would face 49% tax in Spain, compared with 30,000 euros (plus one-off 50,000 euros entrance fee) in Andorra:</A> And more.
I won forty bucks on Bonus bonds this month,gonna need a few more Bill ?
Gets a bit hard to start changing Countries at our age huh ? Unless you have a few mill..,, :shifty:

[denill]

I won forty bucks on Bonus bonds this month,gonna need a few more Bill ?
Gets a bit hard to start changing Countries at our age huh ? Unless you have a few mill..,, :shifty:

10 million euros per year would make some changes to our lifestyle tho Gaz. Put your 40 bucks to good use and have a great Christmas.......:drool:

[pritch]

If the Spanish tax regime is so punitive that people with money move out that seems self defeating. A motorcyclist friend of mine visited Spain last year, he said that there was a lot of talk of recession and hardship but all of the luxury shops like Louis Vuitton, Prada, Gucci etc were doing a roaring trade.

IIRC there are several English speaking WSBK and GP riders based in Andorra, including Smith. So too is Kiwi Simon Crafar who said it's a great place with good medical and education systems and that his kids were learning four languages: they learned Spanish and French at school, spoke Catalan locally, and English in the home.

[Oscar]

If the Spanish tax regime is so punitive that people with money move out that seems self defeating. A motorcyclist friend of mine visited Spain last year, he said that there was a lot of talk of recession and hardship but all of the luxury shops like Louis Vuitton, Prada, Gucci etc were doing a roaring trade.

IIRC there are several English speaking WSBK and GP riders based in Andorra, including Smith. So too is Kiwi Simon Crafar who said it's a great place with good medical and education systems and that his kids were learning four languages: they learned Spanish and French at school, spoke Catalan locally, and English in the home.

I stayed at Simon's place when we were in Andorra (we went trail riding with Mike W.).
The funny thing is, as you get closer to the border on the Spainish side, the roads get shittier as the Spanish Govt. won't maintain them - they are very unhappy about the amount of income and sales tax they lose through Andorra. Something like 10m people visit the place each year and only about 10% spend more than a day - it's basically busloads of Spanish and French pensioners on day trips to buy duty free booze and fags.

There's also a legend about a village in Spain a 100m from the border, where the entire population pisses off up the road to Andorra when the Spainish Tax Collector turns up.

The riding was great, too...

http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/AndorraSpain-Trail-Ride/i-CfL4R4F/0/L/IMG_0771-L.jpg

http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/AndorraSpain-Trail-Ride/i-jDK46S7/0/L/IMG_0783-L.jpg

http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/AndorraSpain-Trail-Ride/i-wfKJK4Q/0/L/IMG_0807-L.jpg

[denill]

No MotoGP on Sommet::nono: :nono: :nono:

Sommet Sports
20 mins ·

PRESS RELEASE 12 December 2014

As at 12.00pm today free-to-air sports channel Sommet Sports will cease transmission.
Launched 18th July 2013, Sommet Sports has delivered both live and pre-recorded sports on Freeview Channel 14, and Sky Channel 69. Funding initially understood to be available for the channel upon launch had largely never materialised and Sommet has been forced to attempt to deliver a full nationwide broadcast channel on one third of the finance.
“I am totally gutted at not being able to sustain something that we have long held a fervent desire to deliver to New Zealanders. Sommet was born from a dream to deliver free sports to all kiwis. Sadly this dream is not to be.” says Andrew Reeves, Director of Sommet Sports Ltd. “We have been blown away by the amazing support and consistently growing viewership that we gained in such a short time. We can only thank our loyal fans who have stayed with us until the end.”
“Being the ‘new kids on the block“, we also struggled to gain a strong foothold with most advertising agencies. This coupled with an acute funding shortage has left us with the sad reality of having to make the difficult call.”
“I would like to thank OMD, Spark, McDonalds, KFC and Fiat Chrysler group for their support and belief in our vision of delivering ‘Free Sports for Kiwis’ “.

[roogazza]

[QUOTE=Oscar;1130803232]I stayed at Simon's place when we were in Andorra (we went trail riding with Mike W.).
The funny thing is, as you get closer to the border on the Spainish side, the roads get shittier as the Spanish Govt. won't maintain them - they are very unhappy about the amount of income and sales tax they lose through Andorra. Something like 10m people visit the place each year and only about 10% spend more than a day - it's basically busloads of Spanish and French pensioners on day trips to buy duty free booze and fags.
There's also a legend about a village in Spain a 100m from the border, where the entire population pisses off up the road to Andorra when the Spainish Tax Collector turns up.
The riding was great, too...



Nice Oscar, the country side has a Nu Zulland look to it, if you ignore the stone work bridges and buildings ?
Water has a clean look to it.
Even if we can't move to these places, we're able to visit them I suppose.
I treasure my annual sojourns. :rolleyes:

[James Deuce]

No MotoGP on Sommet::nono: :nono: :nono:

Sommet Sports
20 mins ·

PRESS RELEASE 12 December 2014



Well, balls.

[speights_bud]

Get yer wallets wallets out chaps....


We have a 4 year rotation for the gp website between us. Haven't had any issues yet. Occasionally someone logs on and you get booted off. I have heard some subscriptions have been cancelled for doing that

[Reckless]

Me an my boy just renewed our subscription was about $160 NZD
Mind you we do go 1/2's and share the password

[Oscar]

Nice Oscar, the country side has a Nu Zulland look to it, if you ignore the stone work bridges and buildings ?
Water has a clean look to it.
Even if we can't move to these places, we're able to visit them I suppose.
I treasure my annual sojourns. :rolleyes:

The tracks were very rocky, very sharp bits sticking out.
I'd love to have another go.

[roogazza]

No MotoGP on Sommet::nono: :nono: :nono:

Sommet Sports
20 mins ·

PRESS RELEASE 12 December 2014

As at 12.00pm today free-to-air sports channel Sommet Sports will cease transmission.
Launched 18th July 2013, Sommet Sports has delivered both live and pre-recorded sports on Freeview Channel 14, and Sky Channel 69. Funding initially understood to be available for the channel upon launch had largely never materialised and Sommet has been forced to attempt to deliver a full nationwide broadcast channel on one third of the finance.
“I am totally gutted at not being able to sustain something that we have long held a fervent desire to deliver to New Zealanders. Sommet was born from a dream to deliver free sports to all kiwis. Sadly this dream is not to be.” says Andrew Reeves, Director of Sommet Sports Ltd. “We have been blown away by the amazing support and consistently growing viewership that we gained in such a short time. We can only thank our loyal fans who have stayed with us until the end.”
“Being the ‘new kids on the block“, we also struggled to gain a strong foothold with most advertising agencies. This coupled with an acute funding shortage has left us with the sad reality of having to make the difficult call.”
“I would like to thank OMD, Spark, McDonalds, KFC and Fiat Chrysler group for their support and belief in our vision of delivering ‘Free Sports for Kiwis’ “.

Mmmmm ! Some time ago I read Dorna had tried to sew it up by making people pay via internet. But it was said Motogp needs free to air to be successful.
I'm hoping Sky reach into their wallet and pay for it after suffering 2014 ?

[James Deuce]

Mmmmm ! Some time ago I read Dorna had tried to sew it up by making people pay via internet. But it was said Motogp needs free to air to be successful.
I'm hoping Sky reach into their wallet and pay for it after suffering 2014 ?
Sky didn't "suffer" anything. NZ broadcasters simply don't give a shit about motorsports, characterise it as a low-brow activity undertaken by morons suffering from a death wish and only grudgingly have F1 on "because, F1".

Not only do broadcasters not care, neither do the bulk of the NZ Public.

$160 for MotoGP's feed is outrageous. That's just extortion.

I'm pushing the button. I've had enough.

[speights_bud]

$160 for MotoGP's feed is outrageous. That's just extortion.

I'm pushing the button. I've had enough.

It's not outrageous at all, I get to watch every practice session in all 3 classes if I want, all the pre and post race press conferences, interviews with riders who didn't make the podium, even past races etc. And all that whenever it suits me.

Break it up to the cost per round and it's under $10.

Not too bad in my opinion.

[James Deuce]

Moto2 is shit, so $3 of that $10 goes to waste every round. Yes, I know the racing is better than any other class of 2 wheeled motor racing, however every race is a Honda whitewash. They're sloooooooow. And the accidents are predictable and generated by trying to make something slow go faster than it should, not mental aberrations and insanity like Moto3. I don't care about practice sessions, just qualifying and the race. There is no way in hell that I would feel comfortable spending $160 on something that I'd get $70 worth of enjoyment out of.

[Reckless]

Mmmmm ! Some time ago I read Dorna had tried to sew it up by making people pay via internet. But it was said Motogp needs free to air to be successful.
I'm hoping Sky reach into their wallet and pay for it after suffering 2014 ?


You guys need to read the fine print on my previous post, PM each other and cut your costs by 1/2.
We have even been logged on at the same time while talkin on the phone about lap times etc.
Or be viewing it via the laptop on TV and have the site on, on the tablet.
They have a "no spoiler" link straight to the race vids for watchin next night.

The thing I really liked was the 45min long pre race interviews with questions from the floor.

Doubt if me or my boy would pay full whack either for just one sport feed but at least they are getting one sub out of us rather than nothing.

I wonder how much the sport suffers when they sell their soul and walk away from their fan base???
Case in Point: Bathurst. Used to be a religion in our house NOW I don't give a shit!
Formula 1 is the same. :no:

[James Deuce]

James Deuce doesn't play well with others. James Deuce is not going to share. James Deuce is taking his toys home.

[Oscar]

I wonder how much the sport suffers when they sell their soul and walk away from their fan base???
Case in Point: Bathurst. Used to be a religion in our house NOW I don't give a shit!
Formula 1 is the same. :no:

It wasn't MotoGP that had the problem.


SkyNZ botched the deal with MotoGP rights holders Dorna Sports. Here's a little-known fact re that botch-up...

Most MotoGP fans assume the negotiation breakdown was over $$, but not so. As you will know Dorna offer live MotoGP coverage online via MotoGP.com. In early 2012 after Sky-Dorna negotiations reached agreement on price, Sky demanded 'exclusive NZ rights' to the content meaning Dorna should block MotoGP.com content to all NZ web subscribers, at which point Dorna said something like .. "Go F@#k yourselves SkyNZ"... True!

[Reckless]

It wasn't MotoGP that had the problem.

Didn't actually know that point Oscar thanks mate now I feel a tad guilty :facepalm::innocent:

[pritch]

It wasn't MotoGP that had the problem.

Yeah, I had heard that it was the Internet coverage that made SKY unhappy. My Dorna sub has expired but I'm not rushing into anything. Sad to read Sommet pulled the plug. The testing isn't of sufficient interest, so I'll wait and see if SKY do the decent thing, if they don't I'll have to fork for a Dorna sub. Even if it means cutting back on the vinho tinto - God forbid:drinkup:

[jasonu]

so I'll wait and see if SKY do the decent thing, :

Don't hold your breath mate.

[denill]

Yeah, I had heard that it was the Internet coverage that made SKY unhappy. My Dorna sub has expired but I'm not rushing into anything. Sad to read Sommet pulled the plug. The testing isn't of sufficient interest, so I'll wait and see if SKY do the decent thing, if they don't I'll have to fork for a Dorna sub. Even if it means cutting back on the vinho tinto - God forbid:drinkup:

What he said. :angry:

Just in case I am required to bite the bullet and buy the Dorna streaming, which is the most likely scenario, I am in the process of setting up a PC to get HDMI into the 55 inch Panasonic. :angry:

[pritch]

The Superprestigio is on again early tomorrow morning our time. I just may have to set the alarm. It doesn't look as if SKY have picked it up but it will be streamed from the two web sites mentioned. Here's hoping we are allowed to view it?

The details from David Emmett

How To Watch The Second Edition Of the Superprestigio Indoor Flat Track Race In Barcelona
Submitted by David Emmett on Fri, 2014-12-12 13:51
in Aleix Espargaro Alvaro Bautista Bradley Smith Marc Marquez Maverick Viñales Pol Espargaro Scott Redding Valentino Rossi Alex Marquez Mika Kallio Tito Rabat Xavier Simeon Enea Bastianini Kenny Noyes Troy Bayliss

Saturday night is the last chance to see the stars of motorcycle racing turning a wheel in anger. On 13th December, the cream of both the MotoGP and AMA flat track paddocks meet for the second running of the Superprestigio, an indoor invitation dirt track race, at the Palau Sant Jordi in Barcelona. The setting is a classic location: the Palau Sant Jordi is part of the former Olympic park, set atop Montjuic, scene of many legendary motorcycle races of the past.

For those who could not make it to Barcelona themselves, they need not despair. The event is to be broadcast in several countries around the globe, as well as streamed live online. In the UK, the Superprestigio will be broadcast on the BT Sport channel. In the US, the event will be streamed live - with English commentary - on the Fanschoice.TV website, as well as on the website of Cycle World magazine.

Action starts at 6:30pm local time, with heats for the two different classes: Superprestigio, an invitation-only class for GP and elite road racers; and Open, for AMA flat track racers and other offroad disciplines, including enduro, long track and European dirt track. The final is a run off between the best riders from both classses, which starts at 9:10pm. You can see a full schedule on the DTX Barcelona website, as well as a full list of riders, and ticket prices.

[ecko_nzed]

What he said. :angry:

Just in case I am required to bite the bullet and buy the Dorna streaming, which is the most likely scenario, I am in the process of setting up a PC to get HDMI into the 55 inch Panasonic. :angry:

JB HI-FI have google chrome casts for $59. If you have a wireless network at home, it takes all the hassle out of connecting to your PC

[roogazza]

JB HI-FI have google chrome casts for $59. If you have a wireless network at home, it takes all the hassle out of connecting to your PC

Sorry ,google chrome casts ??? can you explain this ?/
I'm in the same boat as Denill , I want the big screen and lazyboy option.

[ecko_nzed]

Sorry ,google chrome casts ??? can you explain this ?/
I'm in the same boat as Denill , I want the big screen and lazyboy option.

A chromecast is a little dongle that plugs into a HDMI port on your TV then connects to your wireless network at home. If your PC is on the same wireless network, and you use google chrome as a web browser, you can cast (send) what is in your browser to your TV through the chromecast. Think of it of turning older TV's into a smart tv. If you have a android smartphone there are a number apps that support casting natively (YouTube, Netflix, Plex) key thing will be if you have a wireless network at home and your PC is connected to it.

[Ntoxcated]

Chromecast (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chromecast) :innocent:

D'oh - too slow

[bogan]

A chromecast is a little dongle that plugs into a HDMI port on your TV then connects to your wireless network at home. If your PC is on the same wireless network, and you use google chrome as a web browser, you can cast (send) what is in your browser to your TV through the chromecast. Think of it of turning older TV's into a smart tv. If you have a android smartphone there are a number apps that support casting natively (YouTube, Netflix, Plex) key thing will be if you have a wireless network at home and your PC is connected to it.

Chur dude, now got xmas sorted for a rellie whose smart TV shits itself trying to stream motogp after about 20mins.

[denill]

Funny how necessity takes people down the IT track, whether they want to or not.

I will get hold of an old desktop running XP at least, clean it up and install a USB to HDMI Adapter. Connecting the HDMI to the TV enables controlling play back with a cordless mouse, preferably Bluetooth. A couple of cold ones and you're good to go Gaz. ;)

[pritch]

Chromecast (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chromecast) :innocent:

D'oh - too slow

I'm sort of pleased about that, for a minute I was thinking buying an Apple TV had been a waste of money but you've made me feel better.

Slingshot and Orcon now let customers set up a USA IP address so it is possible to access great heaps of stuff from the 'Net with your TV. Lots of the sources, eg Disney etc want money, but you can see old movies on Crackle for free. I might be a bit slow, but I recently discovered all the movies on YouTube too. Great on a rainy day.

Meanwhile back in Barcelona...

[roogazza]

A chromecast is a little dongle that plugs into a HDMI port on your TV then connects to your wireless network at home. If your PC is on the same wireless network, and you use google chrome as a web browser, you can cast (send) what is in your browser to your TV through the chromecast. Think of it of turning older TV's into a smart tv. If you have a android smartphone there are a number apps that support casting natively (YouTube, Netflix, Plex) key thing will be if you have a wireless network at home and your PC is connected to it.


Funny how necessity takes people down the IT track, whether they want to or not.

I will get hold of an old desktop running XP at least, clean it up and install a USB to HDMI Adapter. Connecting the HDMI to the TV enables controlling play back with a cordless mouse, preferably Bluetooth. A couple of cold ones and you're good to go Gaz. ;)

Sweet so I buy a dongle !!! No I think have got ya, ta for that. My oldest boy had a box of tricks made by a mate to link a computer to his TV but that was 1200 bucks. He can help me too.
Got the cold ones going already Bill, and same to you for a thirsty xmas.

[merv]

Meanwhile back in Barcelona...

Boy can ride alright http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/212586/1/marquez-beats-mees-in-superprestigio.html

[Reckless]

Anyone know what MM is cryin about??

Is it just moving out of home or something else??
You should all be able to see this as its free.
He's breaking up toward the end of this vid?

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/marc+marquez+on+his+relocation+to+Andorra



TV's ???
BTW Both me and my son have smart TV's His a little older Plasma and Mine a 55" LG so called Smart TV.
We both still use Computers to stream MotoGP, his an integral part of his system and I use my laptop plugged in Via HDMI.
I've found my WIFI network to slow for high quality images and use a direct wire from my Router to the laptop.
Luckily I have a feed point behind the TV. The LG will stream TV on demand from channel 3 but not 1 & 2?
My TV has integrated wireless, direct feed internet and all the bells but it just ain't as smart as the salesman would make out in the shop.
Quite frankly I feel ripped off to have to use the laptop as a work around but I'm sick of fucking around trying to get it do what an LG smart TV was marketed to do?
And show the MotoGP full screen via the TV (why I use the laptop)
If any of you are going to update your TV make sure it will do the job they are a rip imho (or the LG is)

[pritch]

Anyone know what MM is cryin about??



When it became known that he was moving to Andorra it was assumed he was doing so to escape Spains punitive tax rates. He was upset at the implications as reported, some of which may not have been over polite. He announced that he will continue to pay tax in Spain meantime, even though the career of a GP rider may be short. He also pointed out that his career was almost ended by the crash in Sepang which created problems with his vision. He said that the move to Andorra is motivated by better training oportunities during winter. Some pictures I have seen of Andorra in winter might suggest that training for skiiing might be more appropriate.

There is an "Andoran Mafia" which includes Bradley Smith, Leon Camier and Simon Crafar (among others?). Crafar said in jest this morning that they wouldn't include MM in that yet as he's too new.

[WNJ]

Anyone know what MM is cryin about??

He's just realised he's a homo on a honda::killingme

[BMWST?]

Anyone know what MM is cryin about??

Is it just moving out of home or something else??
You should all be able to see this as its free.
He's breaking up toward the end of this vid?

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/marc+marquez+on+his+relocation+to+Andorra



TV's ???
BTW Both me and my son have smart TV's His a little older Plasma and Mine a 55" LG so called Smart TV.
We both still use Computers to stream MotoGP, his an integral part of his system and I use my laptop plugged in Via HDMI.
I've found my WIFI network to slow for high quality images and use a direct wire from my Router to the laptop.
Luckily I have a feed point behind the TV. The LG will stream TV on demand from channel 3 but not 1 & 2?
My TV has integrated wireless, direct feed internet and all the bells but it just ain't as smart as the salesman would make out in the shop.
Quite frankly I feel ripped off to have to use the laptop as a work around but I'm sick of fucking around trying to get it do what an LG smart TV was marketed to do?
And show the MotoGP full screen via the TV (why I use the laptop)
If any of you are going to update your TV make sure it will do the job they are a rip imho (or the LG is)
Have you tried the tv plugged in rather than wireless?, I have a panasonic smart tv that I will want to try via motogp

[Bender]

I have a Samsung smart TV that screens internet content pretty well.

BUT the motogp website does not support smart TVs. This came from the MotoGP people when I emailed them and asked why it wouldn't work. As far as I can work out my TV uses Linux as its OS.

I still have to plug in the laptop via HDMI cable.

[speights_bud]

Dad uses his Samsung smart TV to watch on the motogp website, my one is a generation older Samsung smart TV and it doesn't work. Hence our pc is permanently set up on the TV with wireless keyboard and mouse. Also we use an ad blocker and watch programs and movies on project free.tv

[Reckless]

Have you tried the tv plugged in rather than wireless?, I have a panasonic smart tv that I will want to try via motogp

Yep TV is permanently on the wired gigabit router feed unless I unplug it for the extension cord to the laptop.


BUT the MotoGP website does not support smart TVs..

Cheers for that!! Thats the problem with the moto GP site and full screen then :innocent:
The bloody LG should still screen TV on Demand without the laptop feed tho??
I guess technology still hasn't got to the point we can sit down, click the TV on, click a Browser shortcut and watch full screen LMAO.

The odd GP because we have got the laptop out and running we've still plugged the projector in and watched big arse images with the surround going.
Usually that's after the third Bourbon on gp Night :niceone:

Hopefully next season those Yamaha's will gain a few 10ths and give the Hondas a better go?
The new teams might fight in the next bunch and Moto 2 will be as exciting as the other two classes.
Still its been a great season I reckon :msn-wink:

[ellipsis]

...I have all the technology that you need to watch anything I want to, alas there are far too many buttons to push...if my IT whizz kid son isn't about, I'm fucked...I seem to end up in a spiraling vortex of nothingness when it comes to the ether...'dunno if that's a good thing or not...

[pritch]

Following the publicity MM attracted by changing his address to Andorra, Simon Crafar has been moved to write explaining the attractions of living there.
http://www.motovudu.com/blog/view/living-in-andorra.html

[merv]

Here's the video of his last race win against Mees

<iframe width="640" height="390" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/mQemgGeeJVo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

Here's Mees view of the action

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/S7VCkd9vdjM?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[roogazza]

A bit of a fill in while the racing scene is having a rest.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/212517/1/exclusive-mike-webb-motogp-race-director-qa.html

[Oscar]

A bit of a fill in while the racing scene is having a rest.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/212517/1/exclusive-mike-webb-motogp-race-director-qa.html

He'll be ensconced in my garage by Monday, trying to get his XTZ750 ready for our annual Gentlemen's Adventure.
We're gonna head to Pig Island by way of the Boxing Day races at Whhhhhhhhhhhhaganui....

[roogazza]

He'll be ensconced in my garage by Monday, trying to get his XTZ750 ready for our annual Gentlemen's Adventure.
We're gonna head to Pig Island by way of the Boxing Day races at Whhhhhhhhhhhhaganui....
Pah Trail bikes ! Too physical for this guy. I'm waiting on a knee Op to keep me riding at the mo.:pinch:
ps wonganui,went there in about 2000 after 13 years in Aust,haven't been back in 14 years since !!!!! jeeze adding the two thats 27 years.

[pritch]

Lots to read if you use the links.

http://www.paddockchatter.com/2014/12/end-of-season-debrief-old-dogs-and-new.html

[roogazza]

Lots to read if you use the links.

http://www.paddockchatter.com/2014/12/end-of-season-debrief-old-dogs-and-new.html

Thanks pritch,Merry Christmas to you .

(and everyone else on the Racing forum.) ciao G..xx :niceone: