MotoGP 2014

[george formby]

Ha was just the teaser to the main event.

Crazy conditions,crazy passing,bloody amazing race.

Yup. I'm emotionally knackered. :gob: Amazin.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck me. The perfect storm cost me 2 doz! Eco_nzed will be loving it!

[speights_bud]

Oh joy! :whistle: Harris is trying to say "Bastianini" correctly and apologised when he got it wrong. Credit where it's due.
Hope he doesn't just decide to leave Bastianini out of the commentary all together, because the boy seems destined to be running near the sharp end more often than not.
Haven't seen moto3 yet.

But he made another doozy in the early stages of the GP.

"The 2 ducatis running together of Crutchlow and Lorenzo."

FFS....

[Autech]

Haven't seen moto3 yet.

But he made another doozy in the early stages of the GP.

"The 2 ducatis running together of Crutchlow and Lorenzo."

FFS....

I'm pretty sure he called Lorenzo a double 500cc world champion...

DRAMA! I am spent from watching the GP. Glad Rossi and Mad Joe are ok, those were nasty crashes... Great to see Aleix on the podium at last, he has worked hard to get there and I hope he can build on it. How awesome would it be to see both Espagaro's on the podium? That would get Harris into his records book I think.

Anyone hear the decision on Moto3 Marquez vs Miller? I have searched the internets but can not find anything. I am thinking racing incident, very harsh in the weather conditions to be sure though, but its racing isn't it?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Anyone hear the decision on Moto3 Marquez vs Miller? I have searched the internets but can not find anything. I am thinking racing incident, very harsh in the weather conditions to be sure though, but its racing isn't it?

If they in any way shape or form penalize Marquez they're fucking GAY.

[Shaun Harris]

If they in any way shape or form penalize Marquez they're fucking GAY.


Miller is gonna have to step up big time with his new future contract, and it all comes down to his maturity

[ellipsis]

...my girl woke me about half way through Moto2 and said I should go to bed...instead I went outside for ten minutes and froze myself awake, in very little clothing, ...that kind of worked until the GP started...by the time it was over I couldn't close my eyes at all...what a race and what a result...

[Autech]

...my girl woke me about half way through Moto2 and said I should go to bed...instead I went outside for ten minutes and froze myself awake, in very little clothing, ...that kind of worked until the GP started...by the time it was over I couldn't close my eyes at all...what a race and what a result...

Like wise, my jaw dropped so many times during that race.

I don't know what would have been better, a dry battle at the end between Pedrosa, Lorenzo and Marquez or what we had, all I know was it was dramatic and I am still buzzing. I like what one of the commentators said about the racing, you forget about everything going on in your life for 40 minutes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Miller is gonna have to step up big time with his new future contract, and it all comes down to his maturity

Aye. There was no real need to be trying to do that right there and then. Only himself to blame.

[Shaun Harris]

Aye. There was no real need to be trying to do that right there and then. Only himself to blame.



Sadly he is showing a very simillar mental make up to Wayne Gardener ie crash or win.

[pritch]

Aye. There was no real need to be trying to do that right there and then. Only himself to blame.

Maybe Miller was intent on staying in front because the Honda has an edge in speed? I just had a look at the web site but can't see what happened at Race Direction.
Webb probably wasn't in a position to do much, had he penalised Marquez he wouldn't have made it out of Spain alive.:ar15:

[Bender]

Stunning MGP race and once again Jorge showed the depth of his character - remembering what the early part of the season was like. That would have ruined a lesser man so I have to say I am impressed by the guy.

Also glad neither of those ugly crashes resulted in worse injuries.

[roogazza]

If they in any way shape or form penalize Marquez they're fucking GAY.
Was going to ask what you thought there Pete.
Agree with you. Nothing in it, tho Rolf Harris got hold of it and did it to death.
Webb probably got them together to cool them off a bit.
Watched the whole moto3 but have copied the rest for tonite.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Was going to ask what you thought there Pete.
Agree with you. Nothing in it, tho Rolf Harris got hold of it and did it to death.
Webb probably got them together to cool them off a bit.
Watched the whole moto3 but have copied the rest for tonite.

If you're gonna lean on someone expect to eat asphalt if you touch. Normally always the guy on the outside that goes down in that situation. Not like Marquez picked it up at all.

[george formby]

If you're gonna lean on someone expect to eat asphalt if you touch. Normally always the guy on the outside that goes down in that situation. Not like Marquez picked it up at all.

IIRC from the aerial replay Marquez was pretty much through & there was plenty of dry line left. Different perspective from the track camera. Determined racing to my amateur eyes. Shutting the door while the horse was going through it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

IIRC from the aerial replay Marquez was pretty much through & there was plenty of dry line left. Different perspective from the track camera. Determined racing to my amateur eyes. Shutting the door while the horse was going through it.

Without seeing it more than the couple of times live last night...I don't think Millar was even trying to shut the door as such. Either way...tough titties.

[steveyb]

Compulsory stand-down period after being knocked out?
Or do these guys have different brains to everyone else?

[Erelyes]

Read FB like a dumbass and learnt of the GP result just before I started watching it. But ho - what a race!

Some lucky people there too. I thought MM was game to keep a hold of the throttle as he slid out into the trap!

Miller - well, it's almost like he didn't realise that Lex was still inside him, tried to tighten his line and then, in an ohnosecond, dropped the thing. I mean sure they touched but it he stacked it good and proper for just a touch.

[ecko_nzed]

Fuck me. The perfect storm cost me 2 doz! Eco_nzed will be loving it!

JTFC you couldn't have scripted that. But a podium is a podium :p

[trev]

Let's hope the Ducatis are up to the task next year. Crazy Joe on a competitive bike - look out Marquez!!

[Shaun Harris]

Compulsory stand-down period after being knocked out?
Or do these guys have different brains to everyone else?





No Compulsory stand down with specialist clearance

[pritch]

No Compulsory stand down with specialist clearance

Next race is 12/10/14 it's not like it's next weekend, and he has had a brain scan so it's not like they're behaving precipitately.

[Autech]

Any word on Miller? The internets is failing me.

[Bender]

Marquez tweeted this (and I flogged it off ADVRider).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Byr9e-4CIAAB78b.jpg

Pedrosa: Nakamoto wants to see us.
Marquez: You go in first since you fell first.
Pedrosa: Let's go in together since we both shit the bed.

[Erelyes]

Miller's view - ”In the crash, Marquez had tried to overtake me on the straight but did not have the pace to do so. On the entry to the corner I was on the dry line and went in normally. I knew Marquez would try to block off inside corner, but he did not cut the gas and made me fall off the bike. Sometimes these things happen -it’s racing. Sauce (http://www.jackmiller.com.au/news-archive/miller-leaves-aragon-empty-handed)

What a load of shit.
A) Lex was on the dry too.
B) Why Miller thinks Lex should have cut the gas is a mystery considering that Lex made it through the corner just fine, despite having an Australian bounce off him.

Seems to me like Jack thought he was in front enough, that by 'cutting the gas' and tightening his line, Lex would baulk and be forced to cut too.

Only one flaw in Miller's plan... Lex was beside him, not behind him. :Oops:

[roogazza]

Little lesson there for Miller,the other guys can be tough too.:yes:

[Autech]

That is my thoughts too, I think Marquez could have cut the gas but had no obligation to do so. I have watched the crash a few times and it seemed he did push wide when he hit the gas causing him to clip Miller, but Miller was also committed to keeping to his line. Racing incident, I just find it strange that there has been nothing released about race directions decision. I think they would have just called the boys in and told them to sort out there shit.

[Mental Trousers]

Both of them getting called to the Principles office after the last race was probably to keep things calm more than anything. An incident like that can escalate if if the wrong things are said. So Mike Webb was probably just making sure they both know it was just a racing incident and there's nothing worth going ballistic over.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Compulsory stand-down period after being knocked out?
Or do these guys have different brains to everyone else?

Especially considering how sharp they have to be to be riding the fucking things.

Yes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

JTFC you couldn't have scripted that. But a podium is a podium :p

Damn straight. You deserve it!

[Reckless]

Well what a bloody night eh!! Managed to stay away from the result whooohooo!!

I thought Miller was squeezed and had nowhere to go, Marquez drifted out but its hard to see! They certainly have got those blue bikes going well!
Been saying for a few races now Miller has to race to win and not for the championship (as the impression has been) or he's going to loose it???


Gutted for Rossi it would have been his sorta race at the end. I see he had concussion and checked himself out of the hospital now resting up.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/209170/1/valentino-rossi-discharges-himself-from-hospital.html

Was shouting at Lorenzo to come in at least a lap before he did "Dumb arse" was what was being said but it worked out for him in the end :)

Shit that bike went quick on Pedro he didn't stand a chance? What happened? I saw him running toward pits and wondered if he was allowed to come in and swap without being on the crashed bike? Then it seems as though they where saying he went back and got it and finished 14th, bit confused there??

Well the Dumb arse in the end was MM I guess?
I thought before the rain he actually slowed to get DP in front of Lorenzo then tried to drag him away. Was thinking great team stuff.
Then it got really interesting! Bloody lucky he didn't wreck himself hangin onto that bike in the gravel trap.

Why the fuck put a slippery strip of astro turf between the back of the ripple strip and run off areas seems bloody stupid to me??? Caused mayhem!!

All three classes great racing, Drama filled & still no news on Miller and any judgement?

[pritch]

Overnight:

Race Direction announce Miller prang a racing incident. That took a while.

Suzuki announce Vinales and Espagero A to be factory riders. An aggressive, talented pair. Feel sorry for Randy de P though, he must be distraught. (I hate the word "gutted",). The GP bike is to be called GSX-RR. Nice touch. The 2015 GSX-R can be had in the same paint job.

[Bender]

Shit that bike went quick on Pedro he didn't stand a chance? What happened? I saw him running toward pits and wondered if he was allowed to come in and swap without being on the crashed bike? Then it seems as though they where saying he went back and got it and finished 14th, bit confused there??



As I understand it, Pedro got the crashed bike going, rode round to the pits and swapped it for his No.2 bike. As did MM.

[Shaun Harris]

Overnight:

Race Direction announce Miller prang a racing incident. That took a while.

Suzuki announce Vinales and Espagero A to be factory riders. An aggressive, talented pair. Feel sorry for Randy de P though, he must be distraught. (I hate the word "gutted",). The GP bike is to be called GSX-RR. Nice touch. The 2015 GSX-R can be had in the same paint job.


GSXR is a marketing name Suzuki have stuck with since 1985

[Autech]

Shit that bike went quick on Pedro he didn't stand a chance? What happened? I saw him running toward pits and wondered if he was allowed to come in and swap without being on the crashed bike? Then it seems as though they where saying he went back and got it and finished 14th, bit confused there??



Yeah that crash could have been a lot worse, happened in a split second, can't imagine riding on slicks in the wet is much fun at all. Amazing that the bike can slide for that long and still be ride-able. I thought he was running to the pits too, perhaps they turned him back and that's why he was so far back from MM.

[Mental Trousers]

Why the fuck put a slippery strip of astro turf between the back of the ripple strip and run off areas seems bloody stupid to me??? Caused mayhem!!

It's that or grass. Putting asphalt there just encourages the riders to use it to get a better line on a corner, which then needs monitoring for offenders. But then what sort of penalty should they get for going out there in the race??

In the wet it's every bit as slippery as grass, which is what every other track has. To get to it you have to cross the painted lines and ripple strips, which in the wet are fucken slippery as well. Rossi was just unfortunate that he hit tarmac instead of sand, but that crash was nasty no matter what he hit.


Suzuki announce Vinales and Espagero A to be factory riders. An aggressive, talented pair.

Watch Vinales next year. He's going damn well in Moto2.

[Oscar]

Overnight:

Race Direction announce Miller prang a racing incident. That took a while.



The helicopter shot showed no deviation by Marquez.
If it had of been considered serious, action would have been taken during the race.

[pritch]

GSXR is a marketing name Suzuki have stuck with since 1985

But GSXRR is very 2014/15. As one of the Brit journos commented, watch all the sprot bike riders stick an extra R on their bike.

[Shaun Harris]

But GSXRR is very 2014/15. As one of the Brit journos commented, watch all the sprot bike riders stick an extra R on their bike.


It sure is. It will be brilliant to see Suzuki back in there fighting again

[Autech]

Watch Vinales next year. He's going damn well in Moto2.

He is one hell of a good rider, will be interesting to see who is quicker on the RR, Aleix or Maverick. Both very talented riders in my eyes. How cool would it to have Pol, Aleix, Marc and Alex on the same grid with similar bikes? Be like a battle of the brothers.

Just a thought on the move up for Miller straight to Motogp, do you think it is possible they want some fresh talented blood in Motogp that is not Spanish? Had that thought the other night.

[Shaun Harris]

Just a thought on the move up for Miller straight to Motogp, do you think it is possible they want some fresh talented blood in Motogp that is not Spanish? Had that thought the other night.


You got it, and HRC understand the Australaian mentallity very well with history, and Miller does show the same real true fighting spirit of the past heros

[nodrog]

....But then what sort of penalty should they get for going out there in the race??...

I believe its a ride through penalty, had a couple the other week.

[steveyb]

Who has the best rider statistics of any rider in the entire MotoGP paddock? That would be M. Vinales. Better than Rossi, better than Marquez.
Hope the bike is as good as he is.

If you watch closely the Marquez/Miller incident it is actually not very different to a hundred other fairing banging incidents. In this case unfortunately, the contact was with Millers knee/leg which would normally not be a problem, but this time it caused his foot to slide off the footpeg and to proceed to go under the rear wheel. That is what launched the bike into the air. Lucky to not have hurt it. All over in a split second.
But them's the brakes for not just giving way a touch when in a tight spot and fighting back another time.
But who's to know eh?

[pritch]

Overnight:

Eugene Laverty has signed to ride for Aspar.

Danilo Petrucci has a two year deal with Pramac.

[Autech]

Overnight:

Eugene Laverty has signed to ride for Aspar.

Danilo Petrucci has a two year deal with Pramac.

Certainly getting a shake up the GP field. Next year is going to be epic!

[HenryDorsetCase]

either Sommet Sport fucked up or my PVR did. :( No Aragon for me :(

[george formby]

either Sommet Sport fucked up or my PVR did. :( No Aragon for me :(

That sucks. Keep your eyes peeled for replays or highlights on Sunday arvo. You really should. Really.

[Autech]

either Sommet Sport fucked up or my PVR did. :( No Aragon for me :(

Sommet did good and proper, they are still learning to tell the time, bless them...

[Reckless]

either Sommet Sport fucked up or my PVR did. :( No Aragon for me :(

Do you know anyone with a motoGP subscription its to good to miss??

We used to torrent it before we shared our MotoGP sign up we'd go on Pirate Bay and download everything and in reasonable size?
Maybe this?? http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/11121608/MotoGP.2014x14.Spain.Race.BTSportHD.SD

You will need Utorrent to download it, VLC to play it, there is a 720P version there to?

[denill]

2015 Line Up - To Date:

Repsol Honda (Factory class)
Marc Marquez (Confirmed)
Dani Pedrosa (Confirmed)

Movistar Yamaha (Factory class)
Valentino Rossi (Confirmed)
Jorge Lorenzo (Confirmed)

Ducati Team (Factory class)
Andrea Dovizioso (Confirmed)
Andrea Iannone (Confirmed)

Suzuki (Factory class)
Aleix Espargaro (Confirmed)
Maverick Vinales (Confirmed)

Aprilia Gresini (Factory class)
Alvaro Bautista (Confirmed)
Marco Melandri? (Unless Melandri stays in WSBK...)

Marc VDS Honda (Factory class)
Scott Redding (Confirmed)

Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (Factory class)
Pol Espargaro (Confirmed)
Bradley Smith (Confirmed)

Pramac Ducati (Factory class)
Danilo Petrucci (Confirmed)
Yonny Hernandez (Confirmed)

LCR Honda (Factory/Open class)
Cal Crutchlow (Confirmed on Factory class bike)
Jack Miller (Confirmed on Open class bike)

NGM Forward Racing (Open class)
Stefan Bradl (Confirmed)
? (Loris Baz currently favourite for second seat)

Drive M7 Aspar (Open class)
Nicky Hayden (Second year of two-year contract)
Eugene Laverty (Confirmed)

Avintia Racing (Open class)
Hector Barbera? (Team will switch to Open class Ducati machinery in 2015)
? (Currently Mike di Meglio)

Cardion AB Motoracing (Open class)
Karel Abraham (Will be a seat at his father's team)

Iodaracing (Open class)
? (Danilo Petrucci departing, but team insists it will continue in 2015)

Paul Bird Motorsport (Open class)
NA (Currently Michael Laverty, but PBM team will move back to BSB next year.)
NA (Currently Broc Parkes)

[Warr]

either Sommet Sport fucked up or my PVR did. :( No Aragon for me :(
My PVR went mental also, but I found the GP race in the Moto2 coverage. My recorder was still recording 18 hours later before I noticed and stopped it !

[Pumba]

Sommet did good and proper, they are still learning to tell the time, bless them...

With my dirty old MySky it worked quite well, started recording half way through the warm up. I normally skip all the gridding up talk fest anyway:clap:

[Mental Trousers]

The races were put back an hour, which fucked up everyones PVR's. I adjusted the scheduled recording to capture 10 hours just to make sure I didn't miss any of it.

[actungbaby]

Yeah that crash could have been a lot worse, happened in a split second, can't imagine riding on slicks in the wet is much fun at all. Amazing that the bike can slide for that long and still be ride-able. I thought he was running to the pits too, perhaps they turned him back and that's why he was so far back from MM.

did you see the puff of smoke of the front tire he sure is tough cookie thrown like a rag doll

[actungbaby]

It sure is. It will be brilliant to see Suzuki back in there fighting again

for sure mate good stuff

[Dave-]

Ducati Team (Factory class)

Growing a pair are they?

[pritch]

Overnight: Loris Baz to Forward Racing. Didn't see that one coming.

[BMWST?]

either Sommet Sport fucked up or my PVR did. :( No Aragon for me :(

i might be able to organise a dvd of it.Did you find anything else?

[Shaun Harris]

Overnight: Loris Baz to Forward Racing. Didn't see that one coming.


your comment surprises me Mate, it has been all over most Major bike web sites for about 2 weeks now, even some of the ones you often post up quotes from

[HenryDorsetCase]

i might be able to organise a dvd of it.Did you find anything else?

all sorted thanks :) bad touch TV to the rescue

[pritch]

your comment surprises me Mate, it has been all over most Major bike web sites for about 2 weeks now, even some of the ones you often post up quotes from

Ah well, I had a break from reading those every day. Have been reading other stuff, music mostly, but next week as the world heads for Motegi the interest will no doubt be rekindled. Meanwhile am recording BSB ans SBK tonight.

[Shaun Harris]

Ah well, I had a break from reading those every day. Have been reading other stuff, music mostly, but next week as the world heads for Motegi the interest will no doubt be rekindled. Meanwhile am recording BSB ans SBK tonight.


Good man, that BSB shit is awsome

[Autech]

did you see the puff of smoke of the front tire he sure is tough cookie thrown like a rag doll

Yup saw that, just goes to show all the physical training these chaps go through to take a hit like that and hit the ground running. I suspect is Rossi hadn't been knocked out he would have been running straight to his bike to rejoin. Tough chaps these racers.

[leathel]

Yup saw that, just goes to show all the physical training these chaps go through to take a hit like that and hit the ground running. I suspect is Rossi hadn't been knocked out he would have been running straight to his bike to rejoin. Tough chaps these racers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSqiuDw8L8

The Rossi crash

If that slippery shit wasn't there he would have rejoined a whole lot easier and only lost a few places :P

[leathel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHywoErRAE0

long winded run down on the miller crash but the middle has video footage

[Pumba]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSqiuDw8L8

The Rossi crash

If that slippery shit wasn't there he would have rejoined a whole lot easier and only lost a few places :P

If that slipery shit wasnt there he would have been on slippery grass and I suspect the result would have been just the same

[Crasherfromwayback]

[urlThe Rossi crash

If that slippery shit wasn't there he would have rejoined a whole lot easier and only lost a few places :P

If there'd been a concrete wall there he'd have lost a lot more than a couple of places. But there wasn't. And it was.

[Mental Trousers]

If he hadn't of fucked it up he wouldn't have been there

[Shaun Harris]

If he hadn't of fucked it up he wouldn't have been there


His only fuk up was his corner speed was so much quicker than the riders in front and he had no where to go apart from onto soggy false grass shit

[Shaun Harris]

Anyway, MM to become world champ again this weekend and Vinales to WIN Moto2 again!!

[roogazza]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Oct/141007n.htm
Caught up with Dusty(Leda Inc) yesterday,said his brother was off the Motegi. Ciao Slim, if you're reading this catch up soon huh ! :cool:

[Oscar]

Who is going to the Island?

[Dave-]

If he hadn't of fucked it up he wouldn't have been there

So true, he fucked up and should be appropriately punished.

If they made the track infinitely wide they'd just ride in a giant circle.

[Reckless]

If he hadn't of fucked it up he wouldn't have been there

True but you could apply that to every accident and have no safety?
Track design shouldn't go from ripple strip, to slippery, to hard, (grip,slip,grip) its was that combination that made it a highside flicking the rider high in the air. If they go to grass it should stay grass till the gravel trap, there is no doubt that the different surfaces was a dangerous combination.

[Dave-]

there is no doubt that the different surfaces was a dangerous combination.

Crazy Joe was straight onto the grass and still had a nasty tumble.

[Mental Trousers]

True but you could apply that to every accident and have no safety?
Track design shouldn't go from ripple strip, to slippery, to hard, (grip,slip,grip) its was that combination that made it a highside flicking the rider high in the air. If they go to grass it should stay grass till the gravel trap, there is no doubt that the different surfaces was a dangerous combination.

99% of circuits are grass off the track and don't have those extra tarmac bits. So traditionally he would've gone from track to grass to wall.

Those extra tarmac areas aren't there to be used as part of the racing line, which is exactly what happens if you don't have some way of stopping racers from doing so.


Crazy Joe was straight onto the grass and still had a nasty tumble.

Exactly. Thankfully at Aragon the bits where there aren't tarmac areas for run off or sand traps the nearest obstruction is a long, long way from the track. Although that didn't exactly help Nicky Hayden when he went over the fence on the last turn.

[Shaun Harris]

Exactly. Thankfully at Aragon the bits where there aren't tarmac areas for run off or sand traps the nearest obstruction is a long, long way from the track. Although that didn't exactly help Nicky Hayden when he went over the fence on the last turn.


That one of Nicky Hayden;s crash blew me away

[DidJit]

Fairly indepth interview with Cal Crutchlow: part 1 (http://motomatters.com/interview/2014/10/06/the_candid_cal_crutchlow_interview_part_.html); part 2 (http://motomatters.com/interview/2014/10/07/the_candid_cal_crutchlow_interview_part_.html); and part 3 (http://motomatters.com/interview/2014/10/08/the_candid_cal_crutchlow_interview_part_.html)...

[roogazza]

Fairly indepth interview with Cal Crutchlow: part 1 (http://motomatters.com/interview/2014/10/06/the_candid_cal_crutchlow_interview_part_.html); part 2 (http://motomatters.com/interview/2014/10/07/the_candid_cal_crutchlow_interview_part_.html); and part 3 (http://motomatters.com/interview/2014/10/08/the_candid_cal_crutchlow_interview_part_.html)...

Read that DidJit, Crutchless always seems to be name dropping, comparing himself others.
I think he has one more chance next year and was lucky to get that.
Over rated (by Poms mainly and himself).
But this guy was special.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jun/140618schwantzstory1.htm

[Shaun Harris]

Read that DidJit, Crutchless always seems to be name dropping, comparing himself others.
I think he has one more chance next year and was lucky to get that.
Over rated (by Poms mainly and himself).
But this guy was special.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jun/140618schwantzstory1.htm



A Quote from another site that I totally agree with

"He seem overly pre-occupied with what other riders are doing and what equipment they have"

I still really like the guy though, do not forget how good he was last year on Tech bikes, and he will be good again next year on the Honda. Also pay attn to the comparison he used re him and dovi getting results and how long it took Dovi also

[BuzzardNZ]

Read that DidJit, Crutchless always seems to be name dropping, comparing himself others.
I think he has one more chance next year and was lucky to get that.
Over rated (by Poms mainly and himself).
But this guy was special.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jun/140618schwantzstory1.htm

Has he ever compared himself to the almighty legend that is ( was ) Shaun Harris ? :rolleyes:

[Reckless]

Has he ever compared himself to the almighty legend that is ( was ) Shaun Harris ? :rolleyes:

Oh fuck please don't start that shit in this thread? :bleh:
Its the only bloody sane place in the whole of KB :nono: :spanking: :brick:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Speaking of legends. Seeing as it's the Japanese GP...what better time to remember this legend! RIP Abe!

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoGP%20Classics%20Suzuka%201994%20Mr%20Doughnut% 20anyone?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=link&utm_content=Abe&utm_campaign=socialmedia

[roogazza]

Speaking of legends. Seeing as it's the Japanese GP...what better time to remember this legend! RIP Abe!

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoGP%20Classics%20Suzuka%201994%20Mr%20Doughnut% 20anyone?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=link&utm_content=Abe&utm_campaign=socialmedia
There is a headline over on Crash with the Abe headline and the 1994 debut of the guy.
He had that style, looking very much like Doohan on a bike.
(rock star too wasn't he ?)

[Crasherfromwayback]

There is a headline over on Crash with the Abe headline and the 1994 debut of the guy.
He had that style, looking very much like Doohan on a bike.
(rock star too wasn't he ?)

Bit stiffer looking I thought. And always had his nuts buried in the rear of the tank.

[Oscar]

There is a headline over on Crash with the Abe headline and the 1994 debut of the guy.
He had that style, looking very much like Doohan on a bike.
(rock star too wasn't he ?)

I met him a coupla times.
Lovely guy with limited English, and incredibly slight looking - I don't know how he wrestled that YZR500.
A great loss in terrible circumstances...

[pritch]

I think he has one more chance next year and was lucky to get that.
Over rated (by Poms mainly and himself).


Now that Edwards is gone we need someone like Crutchlow, he can be a funny guy and Moto GP needs that. There are too many colourless PR robots in the paddock.
Miller is another free speaker, both when he wants to be funny and when he's angry. That team could make headlines for more than just the action on track.

Don't know why we are getting so excited about 2015, there's still four races left this year.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I met him a coupla times.
Lovely guy with limited English, and incredibly slight looking - I don't know how he wrestled that YZR500.
A great loss in terrible circumstances...

Seemed like a hell cool cat! And yeah...sad day that.

[roogazza]

I met him a coupla times.
Lovely guy with limited English, and incredibly slight looking - I don't know how he wrestled that YZR500.
A great loss in terrible circumstances...
Ok, I may have got it wrong but thought he had been a singer/rocker in Japan as well. Maybe he just looked like one with the long hair ?
We have had a few die over the years in tragic ways (Hailwood getting fishnchips for one). But yes ,sad day.

[ellipsis]

Who is going to the Island?


...Gilligans Island or Fantasy Island?...you will have to be more specific than that...

[merv]

...Gilligans Island or Fantasy Island?...you will have to be more specific than that...

Does a true fan need to ask?

[ellipsis]

Does a true fan need to ask?

...was just querying what isles are accessible from under a bridge...shit, forgot. RACING forum...gotta be serial...

[Oscar]

Seemed like a hell cool cat! And yeah...sad day that.

The situation was described to me as "dying from a broken collar bone" medical stuff up apparently.

[roogazza]

The situation was described to me as "dying from a broken collar bone" medical stuff up apparently.
Oh ok, My rough memory was of him riding a scooter and a truck turning across his path,(much like Hailwood in the UK and why I mentioned it.) ??
Sounds like you had way closer contact Oscar. :mellow:

[roogazza]

http://www.motomatters.com/press_release/2014/10/09/2014_motegi_motogp_preview_press_release.html

[DidJit]

... and Motegi (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/10/09/2014_motegi_motogp_preview_the_race_natu.html). ;)

[Shaun Harris]

Marquez Down in Free Practise 1 But un harmed And Ducati rockin

[denill]

FP1
1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 45.838s [Lap 16/17] 300km/h (Top Speed)
2. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 46.004s +0.166s [10/15] 302km/h
3. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 1m 46.072s +0.234s [14/14] 304km/h
4. Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 1m 46.113s +0.275s [14/15] 299km/h
5. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 46.184s +0.346s [18/19] 301km/h
6. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 1m 46.230s +0.392s [17/18] 303km/h
7. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 46.265s +0.427s [16/17] 303km/h
8. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 46.334s +0.496s [17/18] 303km/h
9. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 1m 46.404s +0.566s [15/16] 296km/h
10. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 1m 46.636s +0.798s [13/19] 304km/h
11. Andrea Iannone ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 1m 46.661s +0.823s [9/18] 302km/h
12. Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamalube Racing Team with YSP (YZR-M1) 1m 46.973s +1.135s [17/20] 298km/h
13. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 1m 47.016s +1.178s [14/17] 300km/h
14. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 47.110s +1.272s [18/19] 300km/h
15. Alex De Angelis RSM NGM Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 1m 47.285s +1.447s [17/18] 295km/h
16. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici) 1m 47.335s +1.497s [5/15] 302km/h
17. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 1m 47.514s +1.676s [17/18] 295km/h
18. Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 1m 47.829s +1.991s [17/18] 288km/h
19. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R) 1m 47.929s +2.091s [16/16] 289km/h
20. Scott Redding GBR Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R)* 1m 48.239s +2.401s [16/17] 288km/h
21. Danilo Petrucci ITA IodaRacing Project (ART) 1m 48.295s +2.457s [18/18] 285km/h
22. Broc Parkes AUS Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART)* 1m 49.723s +3.885s [12/15] 286km/h
23. Michael Laverty GBR Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART) 1m 49.923s +4.085s [17/17] 289km/h
24. Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Racing (Avintia)* 1m 50.469s +4.631s [4/10] 285km/h

[roogazza]

:clap:
I know its only FP1 but Crutchlow is showing his braking ability,not and Bradley Smith found something,then lost it again pfft
13 and 14th respectively...... sorry, had to.:lol:

[ellipsis]

...Pedrosa is showing a bit of braking here...

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[ecko_nzed]

Mean as stoppie
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2014/StoppieSan+Pedrosas+spectacular+Motegi+practice+st oppie

[pritch]

They are using the new big carbon discs. The braking force must be really something. Marquez caliper became detached as he approached a corner at speed only to find he had no brakes so he bailed before he hit the wall.

According to the telemetry Pedrosa had the back wheel in the air for 130m at one point. Some stoppie.

Must remember to set the recorder but the sun is shining so it's a bike riding day :ride:

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=pritch;1130779504]They are using the new big carbon discs. The braking force must be really something. Marquez caliper became detached as he approached a corner at speed only to find he had no brakes so he bailed before he hit the wall.


Where did you read his calliper became detached dude? his brakes not working was caused by a tank slapper prior which kicked his pads back into the calliper giving him no brakes.

[denill]

Montegi FP3:
1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 44.940s [Lap 7/18] 308km/h (Top Speed)
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 45.167s +0.227s [18/18] 305km/h
3. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 45.239s +0.299s [15/17] 307km/h
4. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 45.363s +0.423s [14/18] 305km/h
5. Andrea Iannone ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 1m 45.400s +0.460s [19/19] 308km/h
6. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 45.477s +0.537s [18/20] 306km/h
7. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 1m 45.538s +0.598s [16/17] 306km/h
8. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 45.548s +0.608s [19/19] 307km/h
9. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 1m 45.565s +0.625s [4/17] 309km/h
10. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 1m 45.780s +0.840s [17/18] 307km/h
11. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 1m 45.933s +0.993s [16/16] 300km/h
12. Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 1m 46.114s +1.174s [15/17] 303km/h
13. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 1m 46.204s +1.264s [6/19] 306km/h
14. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici) 1m 46.835s +1.895s [15/16] 305km/h
15. Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamalube Racing Team with YSP (YZR-M1) 1m 46.919s +1.979s [9/19] 304km/h
16. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 1m 47.382s +2.442s [9/15] 300km/h
17. Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 1m 47.401s +2.461s [7/17] 293km/h
18. Alex De Angelis RSM NGM Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 1m 47.414s +2.474s [10/17] 304km/h
19. Danilo Petrucci ITA IodaRacing Project (ART) 1m 47.729s +2.789s [10/17] 289km/h
20. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R) 1m 47.881s +2.941s [15/15] 294km/h
21. Scott Redding GBR Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R)* 1m 47.960s +3.020s [13/16] 293km/h
22. Broc Parkes AUS Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART)* 1m 48.786s +3.846s [12/16] 290km/h
23. Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Racing (Avintia)* 1m 48.802s +3.862s [14/16] 289km/h
24. Michael Laverty GBR Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART) 1m 48.917s +3.977s [15/15] 293km/h

[Mental Trousers]

Looks like it's official

My pick for top non-factory team rider next year

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Marc+VDS+Racing+to+move+up+to+MotoGP+with+Redding+ on+board

[ducatilover]

No surprises there :innocent:


Now will George or the Midget grad 2nd?

[pritch]

[QUOTE=pritch;1130779504]They are using the new big carbon discs. The braking force must be really something. Marquez caliper became detached as he approached a corner at speed only to find he had no brakes so he bailed before he hit the wall.


Where did you read his calliper became detached dude? his brakes not working was caused by a tank slapper prior which kicked his pads back into the calliper giving him no brakes.

Ummm dunno. I'm often reading this stuff at 2 or 3 in the morning, and just after I read about the crash there was a picture of a disc with no calliper. It's quite possible I added 2 + 2 and got 10? There have been about 1500 messages since so I sure ain't going back to check.

We now know who is to be Reddings crew chief, it's Chris Pike who has been with Johnny Rea in SBK so he's known to Honda. Redding says the lack of MotoGP experience should not present a problem and gives Rossi's crew chief Galbusera(sp?) as an example.

[Reckless]

No surprises there :innocent:


Now will George or the Midget grad 2nd?

Yeh was a good race right through. Congrats to MM he's the best out there atm

I think JL will be second, Rossi third then Pedro.

If so i reckon its a true reflection of the speed of the riders this year.

[puddytat]

Moto3 was the race of the day again I reckon.....the winner of that race will be the champ this year too....;)

[Autech]

Yeh was a good race right through. Congrats to MM he's the best out there atm

I think JL will be second, Rossi third then Pedro.

If so i reckon its a true reflection of the speed of the riders this year.

Unless Dani sorts out his race starts that may very well be the outcome, he's dropping back behind the Ducati's then having to work extra hard to get by them almost every race. Who has had the most podiums this season out of Dani, Jorge and Vale?

Moto3 was excellent, great to see Miller going hard for the win, apparently he grabbed neutral which ran him wide, he certainly wasn't hesitating to stick it to young Alex though which is what he needs to do to grab the title. Such a hard class to pick a winner in with so many riders on winning pace. Go Miller for the title though, I couldn't stand to hear the commentators wanking on about "the first time ever" brothers have won GP titles in the same year...

[Reckless]

Unless Dani sorts out his race starts that may very well be the outcome, he's dropping back behind the Ducati's then having to work extra hard to get by them almost every race. Who has had the most podiums this season out of Dani, Jorge and Vale?

Moto3 was excellent, great to see Miller going hard for the win, apparently he grabbed neutral which ran him wide, he certainly wasn't hesitating to stick it to young Alex though which is what he needs to do to grab the title. Such a hard class to pick a winner in with so many riders on winning pace. Go Miller for the title though, I couldn't stand to hear the commentators wanking on about "the first time ever" brothers have won GP titles in the same year...

Yep Moto 3 was the best race for sure didn't know Miller grabbed neutral. Ah well no one to blame then??

Stats of MotoGP Site to answer your question :)

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[Autech]

Yep Moto 3 was the best race for sure didnt know Miller grabbed nutrual. Ah well no one to blame then??

Stats of MotoGP Site to answer your question :)

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I see
Rossi: 10 Podiums
Dani: 9 Podiums
Lornezo: 9 Podiums (but more wins)

So she is bloody close between them for form. Lorenzo certainly is looking good right now.

[pritch]

Moto3 was excellent, great to see Miller going hard for the win, apparently he grabbed neutral which ran him wide, he certainly wasn't hesitating to stick it to young Alex though which is what he needs to do to grab the title. Such a hard class to pick a winner in with so many riders on winning pace. Go Miller for the title though, I couldn't stand to hear the commentators wanking on about "the first time ever" brothers have won GP titles in the same year...

No argument from me on any of that. Here's hoping Miller can do the deed at home, at least he should know his way around the track.

In that free video on the MotoGP web site in which Miller demonstrates his barbecue skills(?), he says he has never ridden anything bigger than a 250 at all. Ever.
Gonna be a shock going from 40 some bhp to 260 odd. As he said already though,"It's just two wheels and an engine." Although I can feel a Tui ad coming on.

[Reckless]

No argument from me on any of that. Here's hoping Miller can do the deed at home, at least he should know his way around the track.

In that free video on the MotoGP web site in which Miller demonstrates his barbecue skills(?), he says he has never ridden anything bigger than a 250 at all. Ever.
Gonna be a shock going from 40 some bhp to 260 odd. As he said already though,"It's just two wheels and an engine." Although I can feel a Tui ad coming on.

This could be why millers going straight to moto GP we dunno how big dad grew at his age He's 25th on the speed trap. Although he did lead for quite some time so his corners must have been faster. You know the old 10% rule. If he bets this will be the case because of his growth in Moto2 maybe he was between a rock and a hard place??

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[Autech]

This could be why millers going straight to moto GP we dunno how big dad grew at his age He's 25th on the speed trap. Although he did lead for quite some time so his corners must have been faster. You know the old 10% rule. If he bets this will be the case because of his growth in Moto2 maybe he was between a rock and a hard place??

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Could be the Honda grunt though, from my observations he just keeps with the Honda's in the slipstream and has to make up for it under brakes. Where as the Honda's have a little extra to begin with so it's a tad easier for them this year.

[roogazza]

Could be the Honda grunt though, from my observations he just keeps with the Honda's in the slipstream and has to make up for it under brakes. Where as the Honda's have a little extra to begin with so it's a tad easier for them this year.
It seems like its swung Hondas way at the mo but KTM have had their share of being top dog.
I didn't mind the last result cos I don't root for Miller (just cos hes an Aussie)
I'm reserving opinion on Miller till I see more of him. (seen him being a prick a few times ).

[Reckless]

Danni and him are doing a road trip promo for the race at PI.

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Unfortunately Danni put it down during the promo. Little embarrassing??
From what I can gather?? his feet don't reach the ground in a Moto Gp bike when he comes to a stop LOL

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[roogazza]

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Unfortunately Danni put it down during the promo. Little embarrassing??
From what I can gather?? his feet don't reach the ground in a Moto Gp bike when he comes to a stop LOL
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Poor little fella,bet he would've felt even smaller, if he couldn't have picked the little GP bike up ???

[GD66]

Ironic when you're not allowed to race as a junior if you can't pick your bike up...

Ditto for me with Miller, Gaz, not convinced...

[Banditbandit]

From what I can gather?? his feet don't reach the ground in a Moto Gp bike when he comes to a stop LOL



That's clearly a myth - think about the staring grid .. Pedrosa MUST be able to put his feet on the ground to hold up the bike before the start .. See .. like this .. Both Honda riders have feet on the ground ..

http://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.motoexperiences.com/assets/image/183/original/QuintEvents-Moto-Experiences-MotoGP-World-Championship-2013-Starting-Grid.jpg?1404388081

[MacPedro]

It seems like its swung Hondas way at the mo but KTM have had their share of being top dog.
I didn't mind the last result cos I don't root for Miller (just cos hes an Aussie)
I'm reserving opinion on Miller till I see more of him. (seen him being a prick a few times ).

You can call him a NZer if it helps. Born in NZ and his mum and dad are Kiwis too.

[Reckless]

That's clearly a myth - think about the staring grid .. Pedrosa MUST be able to put his feet on the ground to hold up the bike before the start .. See .. like this .. Both Honda riders have feet on the ground ..

Yeh didnt think that one through did I flicking through the comments. Should have been working :( my excuse time pressure :brick: LOL

[Ntoxcated]

You can call him a NZer if it helps. Born in NZ and his mum and dad are Kiwis too.

I didn't realise Townsville was in NZ :scratch:

[Crasherfromwayback]

he says he has never ridden anything bigger than a 250 at all. Ever.
.

Think in an interview or a story in AMCN he said that then said apart from a GSXR1000 once. Which makes never not quite the right word to have used. But hey...he is Australian!

[Autech]

Poor little fella,bet he felt even smaller if he couldn't pick the little GP bike up ??? Always tickles my fancy.

I would very much doubt that, he may be a wee lad but would be in great shape due to all the training these chaps do.

Bit embarrassing dropping the bike thoughb:facepalm:, can't imagine they would be easy to ride at slow speed.

I like Miller's riding style, he certainly doesn't lay down and let the Spaniards stick it to him.

I would love to hear someone like Marquez, Lorenzo, Pedrosa or Rossi talk about what level is "easier" to win a world title in. IE what are the crucial elements to win in Moto3/125 as opposed to Motogp. Seems to me that Motogp is a combination of luck, rider skill and overall a very good team working in harmony. In Moto3 the bikes are closer so providing the team can get the bike within .4 of the fastest chap out there, it comes down to the rider to rack up the points and get the championship.

[Autech]

Pedrosa on motogp.com

“It was great to have the chance to be here in Melbourne and ride alongside the Yarra River,” Pedrosa commented. “The hardest part was getting the bike to actually stand up straight, as we obviously couldn’t ride at the kind of speed you see at Phillip Island! Riding in the city was a special way to arrive in Australia.”

LOL!

[roogazza]

That's clearly a myth - think about the staring grid .. Pedrosa MUST be able to put his feet on the ground to hold up the bike before the start .. See .. like this .. Both Honda riders have feet on the ground ..

I had/have a mate that tiny, A. Hughson,(think about 7st5lbs in old days measurements.
He had the trick of sliding his scrawny little arse over to one side of the seat,so that he could tippy toe one foot on the ground !!!
Bloody great for speed tho ,being that weight.

[roogazza]

Ditto for me with Miller, Gaz, not convinced...

We'll see against Crutchlow , guess I'd have to support him then lol,

[HenryDorsetCase]

You can call him a NZer if it helps. Born in NZ and his mum and dad are Kiwis too.

I did not know that. thanks for the info!

[Shaun Harris]

You can call him a NZer if it helps. Born in NZ and his mum and dad are Kiwis too.



According to Google

Jack Peter Miller[1] (born 18 January 1995 in Townsville, Queensland, Australia) is an Australian Grand Prix motorcycle racer. I had also been told he was born in New Zealand. His Father is a Kiwi though

[MacPedro]

I didn't realise Townsville was in NZ :scratch:

Correction: A family member who told me Jack was born in Dannevirke now tells me he made a mistake. Was his older brother born in NZ and Jack was born in Townsville ... so an Aussie he is.

[steveyb]

Correction: A family member who told me Jack was born in Dannevirke now tells me he made a mistake. Was his older brother born in NZ and Jack was born in Townsville ... so an Aussie he is.

Ah, that would clear that up then. But surely if the convicts want to claim Phar Lap, Lorde and (ok, they can have him) Russell Crowe, then given that he has Kiwi parent(s), we can claim at least an influence, some where???
Maybe the typical Kiwi Fall over at the final hurdle, bit?

Ohhhh, too harsh?

[Reckless]

Ah, that would clear that up then. But surely if the convicts want to claim Phar Lap, Lorde and (ok, they can have him) Russell Crowe, then given that he has Kiwi parent(s), we can claim at least an influence, some where???
Maybe the typical Kiwi Fall over at the final hurdle, bit?

Ohhhh, too harsh?

I'm supporting Miller because he's from down these ways but maybe we shouldn't do the claiming thing until we see how is big jump to GP goes :crazy:

[pritch]

Ah, that would clear that up then. But surely if the convicts want to claim Phar Lap, Lorde and (ok, they can have him) Russell Crowe, then given that he has Kiwi parent(s), we can claim at least an influence, some where???
Maybe the typical Kiwi Fall over at the final hurdle, bit?


Well, there's a hot talent in the Spanish championship, the CEV or whatever, who is described as French because he has one French parent. Even Dorna consider the GP ranks to have enough Spanish riders apparently.

So it would seem reasonable for us to take quiet satisfaction in at least some of Miller's parentage, and he has joked that he is a kiwi. Tragically that's about as close as we can get to having a rider in GPs at the moment and MNZ do not inspire confidence that they have a plan to change that anytime soon.

Unlike some here, I'm a Miller fan. Where were you guys last year? Miller was the only guy on a totally out classed Honda taking it to the KTMs (and the Mahindra) race after race. OK he may have only finished fifth because if he lost the tow he couldn't get back to the front, but if a rider is regularly finishing fifth and nobody else on the same machinery is higher than about fifteenth he will attract the right sort of attention. That's why he got the ride vacated by last year's champion. Unfortunately for him Honda pulled their finger out over the off-season and once again he is having to ride the wheels off a bike to overcome a power deficit.

I wish him well, but it's a strange feeling supporting an Australian. :whistle:

[Shaun Harris]

I wish him well, but it's a strange feeling supporting an Australian. :whistle:


That it is mate, but if we had as much patriotism as they do, NZ would be a much better place

[Autech]

Well, there's a hot talent in the Spanish championship, the CEV or whatever, who is described as French because he has one French parent. Even Dorna consider the GP ranks to have enough Spanish riders apparently.

So it would seem reasonable for us to take quiet satisfaction in at least some of Miller's parentage, and he has joked that he is a kiwi. Tragically that's about as close as we can get to having a rider in GPs at the moment and MNZ do not inspire confidence that they have a plan to change that anytime soon.

Unlike some here, I'm a Miller fan. Where were you guys last year? Miller was the only guy on a totally out classed Honda taking it to the KTMs (and the Mahindra) race after race. OK he may have only finished fifth because if he lost the tow he couldn't get back to the front, but if a rider is regularly fininishing fifth and nobody else on the same machinery is higher than about fifteenth he will attract the right sort of attention. That's why he got the ride vacated by last years champion. Unfortunately for him Honda pulled their finger out over the off-season and once again he is having to ride the wheels off a bike to overcome a power deficit.

I wish him well, but it's a strange feeling supporting an Australian. :whistle:

I totally agree. He sure knows how to enter a corner on the limit of the bike's brakes and close up the engine gap. Still feels strange to support an Aussie, but there is far to many Spaniards kicking arse in Motogp/2/3.

[Billy]

So it would seem reasonable for us to take quiet satisfaction in at least some of Miller's parentage, and he has joked that he is a kiwi. Tragically that's about as close as we can get to having a rider in GPs at the moment and MNZ do not inspire confidence that they have a plan to change that anytime soon.



Hahahahahaha,

But they DO have over a million dollars in the bank, Not sure how thats going to promote motorcycle racing??? Also if they don't support their own championship, Why would anybody expect them to foster anything else, Clearly the only way the sport is going to gain any exposure is with internationals attending here and a competitor in the world championship would boost it signifcantly, Still the President knows all this as he was involved during the golden years, Pity he didn't learn anything, Hopefully the new board members can incite some change, Don't forget theres an election at AGM and the presidency is up for grabs, Make your vote count for change.

[pritch]

We'll see against Crutchlow , guess I'd have to support him then lol,

Not much of a comparison there Gaz, oranges and lemons. Miller will be on the production racer, Crutchlow on a factory spec RCV - IIRC.
Be interesting to watch Miller's progress, just to see how a fairly radical experiment turns out.

Apparently there was a story that Jeremy Burgess had been approached to crew chief for Miller next year, but in an interview JB said he had not spoken to anybody from Miiller's camp. He did say though that he had been approached by Redding's people but had declined.

[roogazza]

Not much of a comparison there Gaz, oranges and lemons. Miller will be on the production racer, Crutchlow on a factory spec RCV - IIRC.
Be interesting to watch Miller's progress, just to see how a fairly radical experiment turns out.
Crutchlow had better perform then. I read something about the 2015 production racer being much better than Hayden has this year ? So we'll see.;)

[steveyb]

Speaking of Redding, I noticed that Pete B was not listed as his crew chief for next year.
I wonder what the story is there.
Maybe Pete has had enough of the pressure of MotoGP class.

[Shaun Harris]

Speaking of Redding, I noticed that Pete B was not listed as his crew chief for next year.
I wonder what the story is there.
Maybe Pete has had enough of the pressure of MotoGP class.



Pete B does not want to work under the eye and controll of HRC any more, he said so years back after Heyden. Private team or not, they are still under the finger of HRC

[Mental Trousers]

Pete Bensen always said he wouldn't go back to MotoGP, too much politics and shit. I thought he'd changed his mind seeing as Marc VDS have decided to step up, but I guess even that wasn't enough incentive.

[Shaun Harris]

Pete Bensen always said he wouldn't go back to MotoGP, too much politics and shit. I thought he'd changed his mind seeing as Marc VDS have decided to step up, but I guess even that wasn't enough incentive.



I thought he would also man

[pritch]

If Benson was going to MotoGP he would have done so at the start of this year but he didn't, and he explained why. Basically his last spell at Honda was so unpleasant that he had no wish to repeat the experience.

He and Hayden were victims of Puig's machinations. One example that springs to mind, they had to give Pedrosa access to all their data but received nothing from the Pedrosa camp in return. This when Hayden was the world champion and Pedrosa was just a potential future champ. He wouldn't even seem to be that now.

The more things change the more they stay the same? Pedrosa has apparently recently had a couple of mechanics in his crew replaced and now his crew chief is following them. So far it is difficult to penetrate the fog of PR speak but it'll probably all come out in the wash. The boy might be feeling the pressure.

[Reckless]

The boy might be feeling the pressure.

Was wondering the same thing like how much Honda are going to be happy if both Yamaha's finish the championship in front of him?
His job is to come second minimum and first if MM falls off and screws his Season up.
IF MM did have a fall or someone took him out at the start (as they are his weak point by the looks) it would put the Yammy's 1st and second with the improvements they have made over the season.
He needs to find another 2%.

[Shaun Harris]

Was wondering the same thing like how much Honda are going to be happy if both Yamaha's finish the championship in front of him?
His job is to come second minimum and first if MM falls off and screws his Season up.
IF MM did have a fall or someone took him out at the start (as they are his weak point by the looks) it would put the Yammy's 1st and second with the improvements they have made over the season.
He needs to find another 2%.


He obviously is extremelly talented, but photo;s alone show the deep problem he lives with, he is NOT MENTALLY strong enough

[Shaun Harris]

Rossi is going to WIN tomorrow

[BMWST?]

Rossi is going to WIN tomorrow

only if MM crashes

[Mental Trousers]

Moto3 Qualifying was crazy. Insane traffic for a track that size.

[haydes55]

Moto3 Qualifying was crazy. Insane traffic for a track that size.


Funny to watch the slower sheeple wanting to get a tow from the faster guys going to any length to stay with them... Even following them through the pits

[Shaun Harris]

Moto3 Qualifying was crazy. Insane traffic for a track that size.



Just to repeat myself, they need to stop that shit from happening, some one is gunna get seriously hurt
]

[Mental Trousers]

Then Karel Abraham crashes after hitting Pedrosa. I think he was wanting to get a tow, pulled in behind but Pedro was slowing. I'm sure he'll say he wasn't trying to get a tow, just getting out of the way.

[Asher]

Just to repeat myself, they need to stop that shit from happening, some one is gunna get seriously hurt
]

Dorna take away the artificial turf from all future races because of Rossi's spill but they are happy for the moto3 guys to run into each other.... doesnt make too much sense.

[haydes55]

Then Karel Abraham crashes after hitting Pedrosa. I think he was wanting to get a tow, pulled in behind but Pedro was slowing. I'm sure he'll say he wasn't trying to get a tow, just getting out of the way.


That crash confused me. Pedrosa overtook him, then hit the brakes after crossing his path?

[pritch]

Just to repeat myself, they need to stop that shit from happening, some one is gunna get seriously hurt
]

It would seem the you and Miller are on the same page. That's wot 'e said.

He was so pissed off he just threw his last Q lap away so nobody would get a tow.
Understandable maybe but...

[Shaun Harris]

It would seem the you and Miller are on the same page. That's wot 'e said.

He was so pissed off he just threw his last Q lap away so nobody would get a tow.
Understandable maybe but...



I am shocked that Mike Webb has done nothing about it yet, it has been going on all year and is bloody obvious to the potentual dissaster weighting to happen.

[BMWST?]

That crash confused me. Pedrosa overtook him, then hit the brakes after crossing his path?
dont think pedro braked i think he just got of the gas and drifteed right,KA got on the the gas hard at the same instant...bingle!

[Mental Trousers]

Fucking cool MotoGP race. The placings were looking set then there'd be an incident, and repeat .... awesome.

[haydes55]

Fucking cool MotoGP race. The placings were looking set then there'd be an incident, and repeat .... awesome.


Fucking intense. Marquez had it in the bag, then Lorenzo dropped off the pace so bad that Rossi got it easily and Crutchlow had second by miles..... Front end tuck after front end tuck.... Were they all on the extra soft fronts?

[Drew]

Rossi rode the best race, Jorge was lucky to have minimised whatever the problem was, Crutchlow is a fucken Squid, and smith isn't gonna be able to stop smiling for a month.

[Drew]

Fucking intense. Marquez had it in the bag, then Lorenzo dropped off the pace so bad that Rossi got it easily and Crutchlow had second by miles..... Front end tuck after front end tuck.... Were they all on the extra soft fronts?

Rossi had it all over Lorenzo from the get go.

[haydes55]

Rossi had it all over Lorenzo from the get go.


I'd argue Lorenzo and Rossi were pretty even in the first half of the race. Rossi might have been a little bit faster. From about 9 laps to go Lorenzo basically rolled around the track

[Maha]

I'd argue Lorenzo and Rossi were pretty even in the first half of the race. Rossi might have been a little bit faster. From about 9 laps to go Lorenzo basically rolled around the track

.....not forgetting Rossi started from 8th on the grid, outstand GP from him indeed.

[Drew]

I'd argue Lorenzo and Rossi were pretty even in the first half of the race. Rossi might have been a little bit faster. From about 9 laps to go Lorenzo basically rolled around the track

I saw it that he knew the battling was slowing them both down. So he was gonna sit behind Jorge for a while.

[sil3nt]

Laughed when Crutchlow went down (yeah i know its a bit mean) but I said to myself they should be following him on the last lap as it is amazing he has made it this far into the race.

[Shaun Harris]

Laughed when Crutchlow went down (yeah i know its a bit mean) but I said to myself they should be following him on the last lap as it is amazing he has made it this far into the race.




TOSSER, suppose you watch racing to see blood also

[roogazza]

Rossi rode the best race, Jorge was lucky to have minimised whatever the problem was, Crutchlow is a fucken Squid, and smith isn't gonna be able to stop smiling for a month.
Yeah mate,saw it the same. Rossi from 8th on grid, he was on it.
Where's Bradley Smith should buy a lotto, Qual 4th , faded to 9th,then gifted 6 places !!!!!

Big tyre troubles,Bridgestone gonna be off some xmas lists.:(

[Grumph]

Rossi is going to WIN tomorrow

What do you charge for Lotto numbers, Shaun ?

[AllanB]

8th to first at that level. Good man

[sil3nt]

TOSSER, suppose you watch racing to see blood also:baby: :tugger:

[Shaun Harris]

What do you charge for Lotto numbers, Shaun ?



hahahaha Just a good guess based on experience man. PI track temp changes radically very fast and Rossi had stuck with the original front tyre all weekend ( I assume he did this due to what I just said about track temp there) and I had checked on a weather report before posting that. I will check my lotto tickets tomorrow though, maybe I am on a roll hahaha


Massive bummer for Cal Crutchlow, will be fin cool to see him on the Honda next year

[SPman]

Rossi rode the best race, Jorge was lucky to have minimised whatever the problem was, Crutchlow is a fucken Squid, and smith isn't gonna be able to stop smiling for a month. or blubbing......

Miller rode a good one - the Hondas were faster but Jack played it well and squeaked home a length ahead.

[pritch]

Rossi is going to WIN tomorrow

20/20 foresight. :2thumbsup

And after seeing that Moto3 race is there still anybody who doubts that young Mr Miller is a real talent?

All in all it was a bad weekend for the nay sayers, even Bradders stuck one up them. :devil2:

[Asher]

304304 looks like JL did well to finish

[BMWST?]

304304 looks like JL did well to finish
bridgestone is def of his xmas card list,he was very unhappy with the situation

[speights_bud]

304304 looks like JL did well to finish
Awesome someone got a snap of the tyre. I saw they had thrown a blue jacket or something over it in parcferme but couldn't find any footage of it uncovered.

[Drew]

TOSSER, suppose you watch racing to see blood also

I would if you were racing!

[pritch]

bridgestone is def of his xmas card list,he was very unhappy with the situation

Guess it was just his turn. Rossi, Crutchlow, Barbera, and probably others have already had a race spoiled by a faulty tyre this year.

According to the commentators all the victims of the front end tuck were on the harder compound and the temperature drop caught them out. Bad luck for Crutchlow 'cause he was going well. Sorry, but I can't agree that a rider in a podium position on the final laps of that race wasn't there on merit. CC and Smith had qualified third and fourth on the grid so they had been on the pace consistently.

Phillip Island isn't just another Tilke kart track, it reputedly requires balls as well as brains and the guys at the sharp end of all three races musta had both.

[BMWST?]

Guess it was just his turn. Rossi, Crutchlow, Barbera, and probably others have already had a race spoiled by a faulty tyre this year.

According to the commentators all the victims of the front end tuck were on the harder compound and the temperature drop caught them out. Bad luck for Crutchlow 'cause he was going well. Sorry, but I can't agree that a rider in a podium position on the final laps of that race wasn't there on merit. CC and Smith had qualified third and fourth on the grid so they had been on the pace consistently.

Phillip Island isn't just another Tilke kart track, it reputedly requires balls as well as brains and the guys at the sharp end of all three races musta had both.
JL has had at least one other race this season maybe two that his tyres really let hinm down,VR once too i think

[Oscar]

I am shocked that Mike Webb has done nothing about it yet, it has been going on all year and is bloody obvious to the potentual dissaster weighting to happen.


Justice was in fact swift.
Nine Moto3 riders were given one penalty point each (four points in a season and you're starting from the dummy grid).

[jasonu]

only if MM crashes

:niceone::niceone::niceone:

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[Shaun Harris]

Justice was in fact swift.
Nine Moto3 riders were given one penalty point each (four points in a season and you're starting from the dummy grid).



Swt, that is a good start and the std is now set

[Shaun Harris]

I would if you were racing!




Dam, I will book a date for that then bro

[pritch]

Justice was in fact swift.
Nine Moto3 riders were given one penalty point each (four points in a season and you're starting from the dummy grid).

They changed that rule. The points don't just last until the end of the season, they are awarded for twelve months now.

[Dave-]

Cal crash. I called it.

[Mental Trousers]

Squid award goes to Marquez, not Crutchlow. Crashing out of first place when you're 6+ seconds in front trumps crashing out of second place any day.

Shame they didn't stop fucking around with Crutchlows GP14 much earlier in the season cos he's finally starting to figure out how to ride the thing.

Nakamoto was probably expecting a bunch of people to fall on a blade after that race.

It was interesting that only a single Honda was working well, until it crashed.

Hector Barbera is doing bloody well since he got a half decent bike. Great result for him.

[Billy]

Shame they didn't stop fucking around with Crutchlows GP14 much earlier in the season cos he's finally starting to figure out how to ride the thing.


EXACTLY !!!

That's the point Ive been trying to get through to the "So called experts" in regard to newcomers to the sport, Teach them how to race what theyve got FIRST, Then after a minimum 12 months put them on a machine with adjustable suspenders, Anything else just confuses the fuck out of them, Sam Love was the perfect example, Once I convinced him to tell the suspension guys to mess off and just do a bunch of race meetings or trackdays and learn how to ride his bike, He went forward in leaps and bounds, You have no idea how many people have approached me for suspension onfo on the mighty CBR, Who just refuse to believe it is as supplied with fork oil changed once when I prepped it 3 years ago and I have NO IDEA where the rear shock is set as it's enclosed and I don't have a C spanner to work it out and yet I still managed to set a new lap record last time out at Taupo with a blown headgasket, You can't compare the junior training in Europe with what happens here, Their kids start on basic machinery at 6 or 7 years of age, Ours start for the most part at 13.

[Shaun Harris]

EXACTLY !!!

That's the point Ive been trying to get through to the "So called experts" in regard to newcomers to the sport, Teach them how to race what theyve got FIRST, Then after a minimum 12 months put them on a machine with adjustable suspenders, Anything else just confuses the fuck out of them, Sam Love was the perfect example, Once I convinced him to tell the suspension guys to mess off and just do a bunch of race meetings or trackdays and learn how to ride his bike, He went forward in leaps and bounds, You have no idea how many people have approached me for suspension onfo on the mighty CBR, Who just refuse to believe it is as supplied with fork oil changed once when I prepped it 3 years ago and I have NO IDEA where the rear shock is set as it's enclosed and I don't have a C spanner to work it out and yet I still managed to set a new lap record last time out at Taupo with a blown headgasket, You can't compare the junior training in Europe with what happens here, Their kids start on basic machinery at 6 or 7 years of age, Ours start for the most part at 13.




with ya on all that man

[trustme]

Both MM & Crutchlow admitted they were not riding at full pace. The ambient temp dropped , riding in cruise mode, maybe the asymmetric tyres lost too much heat & grip on the rhs .

[DidJit]

... The ambient temp dropped, riding in cruise mode, maybe the asymmetric tyres lost too much heat & grip on the rhs.

^^^ Bingo (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/10/19/2014_phillip_island_sunday_round_up_why_.html). ^^^

[Reckless]

Thanks Didjit great read :)

Moto 3 was epic, Moto2 yet to watch.


MotoGP The experienced heads JL and Rossi managed to get their bikes to the end, the more experienced won, thats it simple :)
Chuffed for Rossi "To finish first, First you must Finish"

[Autech]

20/20 foresight. :2thumbsup

And after seeing that Moto3 race is there still anybody who doubts that young Mr Miller is a real talent?

All in all it was a bad weekend for the nay sayers, even Bradders stuck one up them. :devil2:

Shit yes, shouted myself hoarse during Moto3, I love how he was standing Alex up at every opportunity, in a harsh but fair manner. Shame he took out his buddy at the end there though, that turn 4 corner is a killer as we found out in GP.

As the voice of Pedrosa I would like to say: "HOW SHIT IS HIS LUCK?"
It seems that the guy can't catch a break. God knows what has happened to his rocket starts as we all used to love watching. I will be very surprised if he beats either of the Yamaha's for 2nd now. I think he may have lost whatever he had last year mentally that made him fight so hard.

As for Aleix Espagaro, how unlucky for him? He was looking real good there, loved him smashing his screen. Must be hard to compete against your brother, I know I used to play my best hockey when versing my brother so imagine he would quite like to beat him in the championship this year.
Will be interesting to see who is the "Better" rider in Suzuki next year. If Suzuki can get their shit together quick enough Vinales and Espagaro have the talent to win the championship (though I very much doubt the bike will be capable for a few seasons).

Finally, the commentators... Did anyone else hear how Lorenzo was under a "Slight amount of pressure" from Crutchlow just after the other commentator told him how Crutchlow had closed up .3 in one split... DICKHEAD! He was also rambling while Pedrosa was coasting back to the pits rather than mentioning that 2nd place in the champ was going to DNF... Wish I could mute just him so that I can hear the important stuff from the other chaps who seem to know their shit.

[Erelyes]

Finally, the commentators... Did anyo

Nick Harris? He mistook Rossi for Lorenzo on one occasion IIRC.

[roogazza]

Nick Harris? He mistook Rossi for Lorenzo on one occasion IIRC.

Nick Harris, a blithering,blubbering,babbling and confused clown !
Time to go. :facepalm::facepalm::sick::yawn:

[Autech]

Nick Harris, a blithering,blubbering,babbling and confused clown !
Time to go. :facepalm::facepalm::sick::yawn:

I would like to propose a replacement... Myself, please fly me to every Motogp round in the world and pay me to do so... PLEASE!

[GD66]

Nick Harris? He mistook Rossi for Lorenzo on one occasion IIRC.

Also Luthi for Vinales, and Rabat for Kallio. And as usual, in spite of the fact that they were going to be focussing on the points spread, forewarned us that his maths wasn't up to scratch (can't be fucked working it out) even though points are "so, so important"...:brick:

[pritch]

I was feeling guilty about chasing Harris up about his pronunciation of Bastianini and he did try to correct it at the last race, but at PI he was back to his usual. Not much excuse when the guy sitting next to him is getting it right.

There are possibly some ace commentators out of work following BT's takeover of Brit coverage from Eurosport, Moody might be available? Harris needs to watch his back.

Motomatters attributes the tyre problems to the Dorna delaying the start two hours to attract a bigger European TV audience. This lead to a 9 degree temperature drop during the race if I read it right. Bridgestone can't be blamed for that. Both Crutchlow and Marquez had eased off prior to going down so they can't really be blamed either.

[Shaun Harris]

I was feeling guilty about chasing Harris up about his pronunciation of Bastianini and he did try to correct it at the last race, but at PI he was back to his usual. Not much excuse when the guy sitting next to him is getting it right.

There are possibly some ace commentators out of work following BT's takeover of Brit coverage from Eurosport, Moody might be available? Harris needs to watch his back.

Motomatters attributes the tyre problems to the Dorna delaying the start two hours to attract a bigger European TV audience. This lead to a 9 degree temperature drop during the race if I read it right. Bridgestone can't be blamed for that. Both Crutchlow and Marquez had eased off prior to going down so they can't really be blamed either.



Rossi used the same tyre all weekend, and I reckon he did that due to knowing how the weather can change so fast on Phillip Island, ( Intelligent experience) Smith also used the same tyre as Rossi did, both had no problems, and all the crashes were using the newer style tyre which was crap in the cold conditions, especially when they backed off the race pace they were at allowing the tyre to drop more in operating temp.

Operating temp of the tyre is MORE important that brand or quality of suspension you may be using as far as tyre condition goes!

[Oscar]

Rossi used the same tyre all weekend, and I reckon he did that due to knowing how the weather can change so fast on Phillip Island, ( Intelligent experience) Smith also used the same tyre as Rossi did, both had no problems, and all the crashes were using the newer style tyre which was crap in the cold conditions, especially when they backed off the race pace they were at allowing the tyre to drop more in operating temp.

Operating temp of the tyre is MORE important that brand or quality of suspension you may be using as far as tyre condition goes!

Word was that most of the crashes were simply the RH side of the tyre cooling too fast after too many left hand corners.
As you say, Rossi was obviously canny enough to know that.

[Shaun Harris]

Word was that most of the crashes were simply the RH side of the tyre cooling too fast after too many left hand corners.
As you say, Rossi was obviously canny enough to know that.


YEP, due to different compounds on each side of the 2 tyres

[roogazza]

YEP, due to different compounds on each side of the 2 tyres

"Asymmetric". <_<

[Shaun Harris]

"Asymmetric". <_< Yea, the 35 I think they were calling it

[BMWST?]

all the crashers were using the 35s(easier than the other word)

[Shaun Harris]

all the crashers were using the 35s(easier than the other word)




LOL, sure were

[Shaun Harris]

Malaysia and Jack Miller starting as he means to end!

1. Jack Miller AUS Red Bull KTM Ajo (KTM) 2m 13.773s
2. Efren Vazquez SPA SaxoPrint-RTG (Honda) 2m 13.939s
3. Jakub Kornfeil CZE Calvo Team (KTM) 2m 14.100s
4. Danny Kent GBR Red Bull Husqvarna Ajo (Husqvarna) 2m 14.202s
5. Alex Marquez SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 (Honda) 2m 14.313s
6. Isaac Viñales SPA Calvo Team (KTM) 2m 14.518s
7. Alex Rins SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 (Honda) 2m 14.667s
8. Brad Binder RSA Ambrogio Racing (Mahindra) 2m 14.694s
9. Miguel Oliveira POR Mahindra Racing (Mahindra) 2m 14.704s
10. Niccolò Antonelli ITA Junior Team GO&FUN Moto3 (KTM) 2m 15.081s
11. Romano Fenati ITA SKY Racing Team VR46 (KTM) 2m 15.123s
12. John McPhee GBR SaxoPrint-RTG (Honda) 2m 15.263s
13. Alexis Masbou FRA Ongetta-Rivacold (Honda) 2m 15.280s
14. Alessandro Tonucci ITA CIP (Mahindra) 2m 15.406s
15. Niklas Ajo FIN Avant Tecno Husqvarna Ajo (Husqvarna) 2m 15.422s


21. Remmy Gardener

[Shaun Harris]

...sorry Shaun...you posted in the 2015 milk racing thread...do not pass GO...

haha Ernie drives a fast milk truck.


Danni comes out fighting also


1. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 1.379s [Lap 15/16] 323km/h (Top Speed)
2. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 2m 1.393s +0.014s [10/13] 317km/h
3. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 2m 1.416s +0.037s [9/15] 322km/h
4. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 1.670s +0.291s [5/15] 327km/h
5. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 2m 1.716s +0.337s [9/17] 322km/h
6. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 2m 1.842s +0.463s [11/18] 324km/h
7. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 1.971s +0.592s [7/14] 323km/h
8. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 2.171s +0.792s [3/15] 322km/h
9. Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 2.209s +0.830s [15/16] 323km/h
10. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 2m 2.248s +0.869s [4/17] 322km/h
11. Andrea Iannone ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 2.597s +1.218s [8/15] 320km/h
12. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 2.627s +1.248s [17/18] 321km/h
13. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 2m 2.722s +1.343s [11/17] 322km/h
14. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 2.847s +1.468s [10/18] 315km/h
15. Scott Redding GBR Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R)* 2m 2.898s +1.519s [14/16] 309km/h
16. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R) 2m 2.935s +1.556s [16/16] 311km/h
17. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 3.220s +1.841s [12/13] 321km/h
18. Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 3.787s +2.408s [15/16] 312km/h
19. Alex De Angelis RSM NGM Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 2m 4.454s +3.075s [14/16] 310km/h
20. Michael Laverty GBR Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART) 2m 4.553s +3.174s [13/14] 309km/h
21. Danilo Petrucci ITA IodaRacing Project (ART) 2m 4.658s +3.279s [15/16] 307km/h
22. Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Racing (Avintia)* 2m 5.007s +3.628s [4/13] 306km/h
23. Broc Parkes AUS Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART)* 2m 6.195s +4.816s [11/12] 305km/h

[pritch]

Bump

(Just to get this thread above the milky way.)

[Shaun Harris]

Bump

(Just to get this thread above the milky way.)



Miller will really have his work cut out in qualify and the race at this track with lack of top end and the speed of the track

[pritch]

That was a nasty crash and burn EsP had. Almost looked is if his bike was on fire before the crash. There seemed to be smoke coming from the engine.
He has broken a bone in his foot, will miss qualifying and will be assessed tomorrow to see if he can race.

[Grumph]

The Spanish - Australian war was fun to watch. Took me right back to Ruapuna in 70/71 and 71/72 when you'd come in with tyre marks on the fairing, grass in the brake scoops....and sore ribs. Bring on Valencia. Hope Mike Webb's got a couple of pairs of boxing gloves...

[pritch]

I have some concern that Miller may not be able to finish in Valencia, may be taken out by a Spanish rider.

He was protested for dangerous and unsportsmanlike riding by team Estrella Galicia but the protests not upheld by Mike Webb.

Oxley says that this is the first season that Tito Rabat has not had to pay to ride. Weird!

[Mental Trousers]

I have some concern that Miller may not be able to finish in Valencia, may be taken out by a Spanish rider.

He was protested for dangerous and unsportsmanlike riding by team Estrella Galicia but the protests not upheld by Mike Webb.

Marquez the younger needs to learn how to handle someone who pushes that hard. When he's getting up the inside and shoving people out of the way let the brakes off a little, get the leg in front of him and lean on it. If there's an accident it's the rider attempting to over take who is to blame for taking a gap that wasn't there.


Oxley says that this is the first season that Tito Rabat has not had to pay to ride. Weird!

Marc VDS are one of my two favourite teams because of things like this. They're a great example of why people should be involved in motorsport and it all starts with Marc Van Der Straten.

[denill]

Marc VDS are one of my two favourite teams because of things like this. They're a great example of why people should be involved in motorsport and it all starts with Marc Van Der Straten.

Where is Kallio going next year?

[Shaun Harris]

Loved that hard riding from Miller, proper racing

[roogazza]

Marquez the younger needs to learn how to handle someone who pushes that hard. When he's getting up the inside and shoving people out of the way let the brakes off a little, get the leg in front of him and lean on it. If there's an accident it's the rider attempting to over take who is to blame for taking a gap that wasn't there.

had me yelling at the TV ! :brick:
Was wondering why someone didn't give a little back ?:baby:
The aussie was good on the brakes tho. :cool:

[Shaun Harris]

Now Lorenzo is saying he was not fit enough FFS, Rossi the 35 yr old did ok

[BMWST?]

Now Lorenzo is saying he was not fit enough FFS, Rossi the 35 yr old did ok

he also said he had cut back the regular training for the three fly aways....obviously not a good idea in hindsight/
.Must be hard to fit any training at all in for these three weeks!

[BMWST?]

had me yelling at the TV ! :brick:
Was wondering why someone didn't give a little back ?:baby:
The aussie was good on the brakes tho. :cool:
i woulda thought they would know by now exactly how Jack is gonna try and pass.

[Shaun Harris]

he also said he had cut back the regular training for the three fly aways....obviously not a good idea in hindsight/
.Must be hard to fit any training at all in for these three weeks!


All the Top Quality hotels they stay in have gyms man. Just a matter of changing your training programme to fit in with I guess.

[Shaun Harris]

i woulda thought they would know by now exactly how Jack is gonna try and pass.


Hard and close as poss to screw with there heads hahahahaha

[denill]

Where is Kallio going next year?

http://gpxtra.com/2014/09/15/mika-kallio-to-join-italtrans-for-2015/

[Grumph]

had me yelling at the TV ! :brick:
Was wondering why someone didn't give a little back ?:baby:
The aussie was good on the brakes tho. :cool:

Don't think they know how nowadays....Though i laughed at the little bit of Asia talent cup shown with one guy leaning on another on the run to the line.
IMO it's been too late to serve Miller back for at least the last 3 GP's - if it goes wrong the points are too close now.

When i came back in the mid 80's, Ray Shearman took me aside and said "roadracing is no longer a contact sport".....Jeez Ray, that's taken all the fun out of it...

[Grumph]

Now Lorenzo is saying he was not fit enough FFS, Rossi the 35 yr old did ok

watching Lorenzo in the early part of the season, you'd suspect he was carrying some sort of injury...I'm wondering now if he's had some sort of virus which has affected his fitness, particularly where he's likely been dehydrated. Probably come out when he writes his autobiography, you'd never know unless you were very close to him.

[Brian d marge]

this got me excited about racing again ..

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hope the link works ,

Thanks Mr v.crumb from kb ..... I was on the edge of me seat .......

AND it had two strokes in it ....

Stephen

just thought I would remind folks

[Shaun Harris]

www.ridersdiscount.com are good for race parts

[Anmic]

As an Aussie im super chuffed that Jack is doing well, cant to see what he can do next year in the GP class!

[Reckless]

As an Aussie im super chuffed that Jack is doing well, cant to see what he can do next year in the GP class!

If only he had of ridden like that Mid Season ????

[Ribit]

As an Aussie im super chuffed that Jack is doing well, cant to see what he can do next year in the GP class!

GP or Moto2 next year?

[DidJit]

GP or Moto2 next year?

MotoGP (http://motomatters.com/news/2014/09/17/official_at_last_jack_miller_to_motogp_w.html).

*10char

[DidJit]

Fairly hefty Motomatters round up (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/10/27/2014_sepang_sunday_round_up_beating_dooh.html) (if you haven’t already read it)...

[pritch]

Casey has put his model cars down to head to Motegi to test for HRC. Perhaps he is also instructing H Aoyama on how to be a Honda test rider?

[Bender]

Casey has put his model cars down to head to Motegi to test for HRC. Perhaps he is also instructing H Aoyama on how to be a Honda test rider?


Don't know why Aoyama has got the arse for next year - he's been consistently as good as the other riders on customer Hondas.

[roogazza]

did he fall or was he pushed ?
Followed him in 250 , had a good last year there.

[Banditbandit]

If only he had of ridden like that Mid Season ????

Different tracks suit different bikes and riders ..

[steveyb]

http://motomatters.com/press_release/2014/10/29/dorna_press_release_tito_rabat_s_path_of.html

[denill]

Casey has put his model cars down to head to Motegi to test for HRC. Perhaps he is also instructing H Aoyama on how to be a Honda test rider?

Mmmm, seems he remembers how it's done. :laugh:

http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/710/AU1256516.jpg

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mmmm, seems he remembers how it's done. :laugh:

G]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeGVEx9-t8

[pritch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeGVEx9-t8

LOL You wish. :rolleyes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

LOL You wish. :rolleyes:

Lol. You know it mate! Shake things up a bit more!

[Reckless]

Vinales got some good stats in here off the moto GP site :)

Valencia Moto2 Preview
Monday, 3 November 2014
Having already clinched the Moto2™ World title in a dominant fashion Tito Rabat arrives at the final race of the year with an opportunity to go in search of another victory in front of the noisy home crowd at the Gran Premio Generali de la Comunitat Valenciana.

Rabat has already attained a total of 326 points in the World Championship this year and if he finishes in 13th place or better in Valencia he will set a new record highest points’ total in the intermediate class of Grand Prix racing. That record is currently held by Marc Marquez who scored 328 points in winning the Moto2 World title in 2012 over the course of a 17 round season, though this year there are 18 races in total.

Rabat has also finished on the podium 13 times so far in 2014 and another top three finish at the final race of the year in Valencia means he will equal the record of 14 podiums in a season in the intermediate class, also set by Marquez in 2012.

On the other side of the Marc VDS Racing Team pit box, Rabat’s colleague Mika Kallio has amassed a total of 289 points so far this year, which is already the greatest ever points’ total than any rider has achieved in finishing second in the intermediate class World Championship. Kallio’s performances this year have been commendable and he has made Rabat work extremely hard to take the title.

Meanwhile, Moto2’s remarkable Rookie of the Year Maverick Viñales (Paginas Amarillas HP 40), who is still only 19 years-old and is still the reigning Moto3™ World Champion, took the 16th victory of his Grand Prix career in Malaysia. Only three riders have scored more than 16 GP wins before reaching the age of 20: Marc Marquez, Dani Pedrosa and Valentino Rossi.

That is good company to aim to be keeping and Viñales will join them in the premier class next year, though before he does he will strive for another win, to make it four victories in his last five Moto2 races before he moves up to MotoGP™.

Behind Viñales in the standings an intriguing battle for fourth overall will be settled on Sunday with Swiss compatriots Thomas Luthi (Interwetten Sitag) and Dominique Aegerter (Technomag carXpert) both keen to finish ahead of each other.

[Badjelly]

That is good company to aim to be keeping and Viñales will join them in the premier class next year, though before he does he will strive for another win, to make it four victories in his last five Moto2 races before he moves up to MotoGP™.

...where I fear his run of victories will stop for a while, with him on a Suzuki. :(

Good luck to him, though. He's been exceptional.

[sil3nt]

Surprised this hasn't been posted:
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Randy+De+Puniet+previews+wildcard+at+Valencia+1

Pretty exciting I think!

[BMWST?]

...where I fear his run of victories will stop for a while, with him on a Suzuki. :(

Good luck to him, though. He's been exceptional.
agreed cant quite beleive that someone hasnt already grabbed him from motogp

[pritch]

There was discussion on Twitter some months ago by Smith and Laverty about how they are treated by airline staff. Young guys in hoodies and shorts , who may look as if they've lost their razor, frequently get questioned as to their right to be in the club lounge.

Alex Briggs who has a couple of decades on the young blokes experiences this several times a year as well. His latest:
"This is the business class check in."
"I am travelling business class."
"You don't look like a business class passenger"
"What does a (expletive optional) business class passenger look like?"

He said it happened to Mick Doohan once when Doohan could probably have afforded to buy the aeroplane.

Anyhoo the whole circus is underway again for the last time this year...

[denill]

Surprised this hasn't been posted:
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Randy+De+Puniet+previews+wildcard+at+Valencia+1

Pretty exciting I think!

Yeah, will provide another element of interest for sure.

DP's attitude to his non-inclusion in the 2015 team is commendable and mature, not common though.

[Reckless]

Surprised this hasn't been posted:
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Randy+De+Puniet+previews+wildcard+at+Valencia+1

Pretty exciting I think!

Read that a few days ago but didnt want to copy and Paste everything from the GP site everytime I post as I'm don't know how much other KBers can see if they are members or want to see if they are not??


Yeah, will provide another element of interest for sure.

DP's attitude to his non-inclusion in the 2015 team is commendable and mature, not common though.

He must be pissed I would be! 2 years and no ride. Trouble is there is to much good young talent out there ATM.

I must say even with the GP and Moto2 titles decided I'm really lookin forward to this round for the Miller Vs Marquez fight and the scrap for second in GP.
It's been a bloody awesome year even MM winning the first few races was impressive. The catch up of the Yamaha interesting and Rossi reinventing himself has been awesome!
Bloody good season I reckon!!

Championship Predictions lads!

Moto3: Want Miller to win but tough ask in reality. I think Marquez will follow him whole race or it will end in tears??
MotoGP: I'd like to see Rossi beat JL for second.

I hope the Suzuki does really well and is in the mix next year

[Ntoxcated]

... I think Marquez will follow him whole race or it will end in tears??

If Marquez just follows, Miller will slow it down to have more riders in the leading group to maximise the chance of others knocking Marquez off - or at least finishing ahead of him. If Marquez passes, Miller will knock him off at the next corner. :girlfight:

[Reckless]

If Marquez just follows, Miller will slow it down to have more riders in the leading group to maximise the chance of others knocking Marquez off - or at least finishing ahead of him. If Marquez passes, Miller will knock him off at the next corner. :girlfight:

True evaluation but don't think Miller can knock him off after standing him up several times last race then getting a rev-up from race control. Will be very interesting. I'm also wondering what role their buddies will have to play like Danny Kent?

[pritch]

I'm also wondering what role their buddies will have to play like Danny Kent?

This could be accurate but I hope not - and it isn't the anglophones that are worrying me. If Miller bowled Marquez that wouldn't bother me at all because that's how Marquez took the lead in the title chase from Miller. It would be only karma if that was how Miller got it back. If my memory serves that's similar to how AM's big brother dealt with Pol Espagero's challenge in Moto2?

Oxley probably had it right, he didn't want the emotional investment involved in supporting anybody in this. Good for him. Unfortunately I can't maintain the same distance. Ah well :corn:

[Reckless]

. Unfortunately I can't maintain the same distance. Ah well :corn:

Me to nothing against Marquez but I'm going for the Aussy aswell as the underdog (only because of the points deficit)

ya know the old ANZAC thing support them unless we are playing them!

Secondly:
Looks like the old fella still has massive desire and Passion for the sport reading this can't help but be impressed at the work that must be going on behinds the scenes with the team and his fitness program. We all know it gets harder as we get older :(

Rossi evaluates title chances for 2015
Thursday, 6 November 2014
In Thursday’s press conference at Valencia Movistar Yamaha MotoGP’s Valentino Rossi spoke about his target to win the MotoGP™ title in 2015.
Rossi has produced another remarkable set of performances in 2014, improving on his 2013 form with 12 podiums and two victories this year – in his 15th premier class campaign.

The nine-time World Champion believes a tenth World title is achievable and gave this assessment of his chances, “I think that it is not impossible next year. This is the target and I say that because we can improve from this year to next year. Already the work for next year started, throughout all this season, in fact from the last test of last season. We have demonstrated good potential already.”

“I think I can improve next year, especially my team and especially Silvano (Galbusera - Crew Chief) with one year more of experience. He can improve because he knows MotoGP better. We can also improve the way of working between us because it has just been the first season. I know him better now and he knows me more, and the way I want the bike.”

However, Rossi also acknowledged, “But at the same time it will be very, very hard, because firstly I expect Jorge to be very strong from the beginning. At the beginning of this year he had some problems but from Sachsening he’s been so strong at all the tracks, so he is a real contender. Then with Marc we cannot forget that he won 12 races this year. That is ten more than me and he has a lot of points advantage!”

“So to try to fight for the championship with these two guys we have to make another step. I will try.”