MotoGP 2014

[roogazza]

Dontcha hate the truth Gazza !
Lol, nah, I'm content.
Smile while you can young fella,I looked reasonably presentable at 50.
(gingas are blessed you know?)

The last 14 however, have taken a toll ! :confused:

[Drew]

Lol, nah, I'm content.
Smile while you can young fella,I looked reasonably presentable at 50.
(gingas are blessed you know?)

The last 14 however, have taken a toll ! :confused:I can't picture you any other way than you looked a few years ago, scowling like someone had just kicked your new puppy.

[roogazza]

I can't picture you any other way than you looked a few years ago, scowling like someone had just kicked your new puppy.
:confused: I guess I've mellowed.With senility I now meet new people every day and can wrap my own xmas presents.<_<

[pritch]

My copy of Stoner's "Pushing The Limits" just arrived. Gotta go to Stratford now but there'll be a wasted day or so after that.

[Bender]

My copy of Stoner's "Pushing The Limits" just arrived. Gotta go to Stratford now but there'll be a wasted day or so after that.


Be interested to know what you think of it. Hopefully a bloody good read.

[DidJit]

Bring back Stoner!:love:

He’s keeping himself acquainted (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/sport/sportresults/motogp/2013/december/dec1613-stoner-to-remain-in-hrc-testing-role/) with the RCV...

[Crasherfromwayback]

He’s keeping himself acquainted (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/sport/sportresults/motogp/2013/december/dec1613-stoner-to-remain-in-hrc-testing-role/) with the RCV...

The perfect Job for him really.

[denill]

My copy of Stoner's "Pushing The Limits" just arrived. Gotta go to Stratford now but there'll be a wasted day or so after that.


Be interested to know what you think of it. Hopefully a bloody good read.

Yeah, I'd like to buy it for Gaz for Xmas. <_<

[codgyoleracer]

The perfect Job for him really.


I can see the race guys thinking now , - "Geez I hope i go at least go a bit quicker than the test rider........"

[Crasherfromwayback]

I can see the race guys thinking now , - "Geez I hope i go at least go a bit quicker than the test rider........"

Lol. I reckon! So good for HRC to have a test rider actually capable of doing the race guys times though eh!

[pritch]

Be interested to know what you think of it. Hopefully a bloody good read.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/162550-Pushing-The-Limits

[roogazza]

Yeah, I'd like to buy it for Gaz for Xmas. <_<
Haha Bill, I'll swap ya for a Rossi shirt. Second thoughts Nah ! Never worn it either, too fat now. :lol:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/162550-Pushing-The-Limits

Quote.
His competitive career commenced at age four. As his mother started to ready him on the start line he started to cry. Some of the other parents looked at her askance assuming that Stoner was being pushed into racing. “The thing was, I knew Casey wasn't crying because he didn't want to ride or because he was scared. He just didn't like the attention of being stared at by all those people.”

Stoner had difficulties at school, being small he was subjected to bullying, he hated school. By the time he got to high school his antipathy to schooling was such that physical symptoms were manifesting themselves. His parents withdrew him from school and his mother undertook to home school him. Quote.

Don't those two paragraphs ring some bells though ? Explains the creature as a person.
Quote.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Don't those two paragraphs ring some bells though ? Explains the creature as a person.
Quote.

People are different. Rossi is doing his crying now.

[DidJit]

Q&A with Moto2’s Josh Herrin (http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/199009/1/moto2-josh-herrin-qa.html).
Some good reading in here (http://cyclenews.uberflip.com/i/229152) too...

[carbonhed]

Q&A with Moto2’s Josh Herrin (http://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/199009/1/moto2-josh-herrin-qa.html).
Some good reading in here (http://cyclenews.uberflip.com/i/229152) too...

Tom Sykes on Laguna Seca...

"First time on this circuit and it's great to see. You need some big balls for turn one and luckily mine are like melons"

:laugh: I can just hear him saying that!

[Bender]

Some good reading in here (http://cyclenews.uberflip.com/i/229152) too...

Thanks for that link - I spent hours reading that online mag and bookmarked it for future reading. Good stuff it certainly is.

[roogazza]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Dec/13121834x34.htm

[DidJit]

Motomatters analysis, Christmas edition: would Honda really quit MotoGP over a spec ECU (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2013/12/25/examing_the_options_would_honda_really_q.html)?

[BMWST?]

Tom Sykes on Laguna Seca...

"First time on this circuit and it's great to see. You need some big balls for turn one and luckily mine are like melons"

:laugh: I can just hear him saying that!

not as big as this bloke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELwpShNQ2I4)

[carbonhed]

not as big as this bloke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELwpShNQ2I4)

Yep... different league.

[DidJit]

Anyone in Spain around January 11th (http://motomatters.com/news/2013/12/23/clash_of_the_champions_barcelona_superpr.html)? Would be cool (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/811/17615/Motorcycle-Article/Backmarker--Baker-Gets-Superprestigio-Shot.aspx) to see (http://youtu.be/64_rdCV9RPc)...

[pritch]

Latest Rossi rumour is different. He will announce his retirement at Mugello and team with Alonso to drive a Ferrari at LeMans. Don't know where that originated but care is needed as the Spanish equivalent of April first occurs in late December.

All the best for 2014 y'all.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Latest Rossi rumour is different. He will announce his retirement at Mugello and team with Alonso to drive a Ferrari at LeMans. Don't know where that originated but care is needed as the Spanish equivalent of April first occurs in late December.

All the best for 2014 y'all.

Personally I'd be very surprised to see him go to F1. Rally cars yes. Have a goodun for sure yous fellas...and I'll wind you all up again next year!

[Dave-]

Latest Rossi rumour is different. He will announce his retirement at Mugello and team with Alonso to drive a Ferrari at LeMans. Don't know where that originated but care is needed as the Spanish equivalent of April first occurs in late December.

All the best for 2014 y'all.

Mugello is in Italy, Rossi is Italian, the only Spaniard is Alonso, so Rossi would be the butt of the joke? Actually I can see him doing that....


Personally I'd be very surprised to see him go to F1. Rally cars yes. Have a goodun for sure yous fellas...and I'll wind you all up again next year!

A Ferrari at Le Mans != F1

He means Alonso and Rossi will team up to drive a Ferrari in the 24 hours of Le Man, which would be awesome!

[Crasherfromwayback]

A Ferrari at Le Mans != F1

He means Alonso and Rossi will team up to drive a Ferrari in the 24 hours of Le Man, which would be awesome!

Ah my bad!

[roogazza]

Latest Rossi rumour is different. He will announce his retirement at Mugello and team with Alonso to drive a Ferrari at LeMans. Don't know where that originated but care is needed as the Spanish equivalent of April first occurs in late December.

All the best for 2014 y'all.


Have a goodun for sure yous fellas...and I'll wind you all up again next year!

Yeah cheers for the fun ! Here's to 2014. :drinknsin:drinkup:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah cheers for the fun ! Here's to 2014. :drinknsin:drinkup:

And more Steinie coming my way!

[pritch]

He means Alonso and Rossi will team up to drive a Ferrari in the 24 hours of Le Man, which would be awesome!

That rumour was posted on Twitter this morning, I don't know where it originated but my source was British (bennetts.co.uk). They say the rumour has been boosted by a post from Mark Webber who has signed for Porsche in the same series. He said, "Great to hear Farrari looking to return to Le Mans too??? Driver line up for 2015 @alo_oficial and @ValeYellow46 #will work"

[Dave-]

That rumour was posted on Twitter this morning, I don't know where it originated but my source was British (bennetts.co.uk). They say the rumour has been boosted by a post from Mark Webber who has signed for Porsche in the same series. He said, "Great to hear Farrari looking to return to Le Mans too??? Driver line up for 2015 @alo_oficial and @ValeYellow46 #will work"

Webber doesn't know how to spell Ferrari? No surprises there....

[pritch]

Webber doesn't know how to spell Ferrari? No surprises there....

Bugga! And I do try to get it right when I'm quoting too...

[pritch]

Should get this quote right, it's cut and paste.

This from Gigi Dall'Igna on his appointment to Ducati.


"I will start with organization. There are two completely different units inside Ducati Corse. One is the racetrack unit, and the other is the people who live in Bologna. The first job will be to properly join these two areas to improve the flow of information from the racetrack to the people who work at Ducati. After that, I have to work on the technical problems."

That puzzled me as I was under the impression that the Ducati front end was the urgent problem.

Yesterday I was listening to an interview on a Motopod podcast where it was claimed that Warren Willing was hired to sort some problems for Ducati. On his return home he was asked something to the effect about how many of his recommendations had been acted upon. The answer was basically none. The comment was also made that both Hayden and Dovi were depressed that information passed back from the track produced no meaningful results.

The comment was also made that Preziosi was replaced but as yet there had been no improvement so the problem appeared to originate somewhere other than with him.

Here's hoping the new broom can sweep clean.

[Mental Trousers]

The biggest problems at Ducati have always been

people
organisation


The first was pretty much Preziosi. He is a brilliant and imaginative Engineer, but he took advice as criticism, is a stubborn and arrogant Italian male and believed that the riders have to adapt to the bike no matter how difficult it is to ride.

For the second Gigi is well onto it by joining the separate bits of Ducati Corse so they work together.

After the personnel and organisation are sorted the bike can be fixed.

[jasonu]

Should get this quote right, it's cut and paste.

This from Gigi Dall'Igna on his appointment to Ducati.



That puzzled me as I was under the impression that the Ducati front end was the urgent problem.

Yesterday I was listening to an interview on a Motopod podcast where it was claimed that Warren Willing was hired to sort some problems for Ducati. On his return home he was asked something to the effect about how many of his recommendations had been acted upon. The answer was basically none. The comment was also made that both Hayden and Dovi were depressed that information passed back from the track produced no meaningful results.

The comment was also made that Preziosi was replaced but as yet there had been no improvement so the problem appeared to originate somewhere other than with him.

Here's hoping the new broom can sweep clean.


The biggest problems at Ducati have always been

people
organisation


The first was pretty much Preziosi. He is a brilliant and imaginative Engineer, but he took advice as criticism, is a stubborn and arrogant Italian male and believed that the riders have to adapt to the bike no matter how difficult it is to ride.

For the second Gigi is well onto it by joining the separate bits of Ducati Corse so they work together.

After the personnel and organisation are sorted the bike can be fixed.

Maybe they should take a look at what KTM have done with their AMA Supercross team led by 'The Man'.
Under his leadership they went from also rans to title contenders and title winners in a matter of just a couple of years.

[roogazza]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140102suzukimotogp.htm

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140102a.htm

[denill]

Go to https://www.facebook.com/SommetSports/posts/257043951118479

And vote for the sport you want to see in 2014. Or- don't come crying........................

[pritch]

Go to https://www.facebook.com/SommetSports/posts/257043951118479

And vote for the sport you want to see in 2014. Or- don't come crying........................

Thanks, done. Not that I get it currently but maybe it'll be cheaper than forking to MotoGP?

[BMWST?]

Thanks, done. Not that I get it currently but maybe it'll be cheaper than forking to MotoGP?


sommet hope to be on the freeview satelite platform as soon as they can get a spot,hopefully that will before the season starts!

[Oscar]

We have MotoGP Race Director Mike Webb speaking at the Hamilton MC tomorrow night.
Have you guys any questions for him?

[Crasherfromwayback]

We have MotoGP Race Director Mike Webb speaking at the Hamilton MC tomorrow night.
Have you guys any questions for him?

Yep.

Got any spare jobs Mr?

[Badjelly]

We have MotoGP Race Director Mike Webb speaking at the Hamilton MC tomorrow night. Have you guys any questions for him?

On behalf of all the MotoGP riders. Geez mate, are you blind? Didn't you see him (run me over the kerb/push me off the track/run off the track to pass me/run into the back of me and take out the cable/slam into me from the side)? Do you need new glasses you blind bastard?

[merv]

On behalf of all the MotoGP riders. Geez mate, are you blind? Didn't you see him (run me over the kerb/push me off the track/run off the track to pass me/run into the back of me and take out the cable/slam into me from the side)? Do you need new glasses you blind bastard?

Lol, so you are mixing up what Lorenzo did with that one time Marquez took out the cable of Pedro.

[Oscar]

I should have known better than to ask you idjuts.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I should have known better than to ask you idjuts.

I know right. Some people simply have no idea! :rolleyes:

[DidJit]

GPOne.com are reporting that Ducati are considering running in the Open class (http://www.gpone.com/en/2014010812456/Rivoluzione-Ducati-si-punta-sulla-Open.html) (spec ECU, more fuel) this year. Decision to be made (http://www.gpone.com/en/2014010812457/Dovizioso-a-Sepang-proveremo-la-Open.html) at Sepang...

(GPOne.com is an Italian website but they do have Google Translate buttons at the top of their pages for us English speakers.)

[carbonhed]

GPOne.com are reporting that Ducati are considering running in the Open class (http://www.gpone.com/en/2014010812456/Rivoluzione-Ducati-si-punta-sulla-Open.html) (spec ECU, more fuel) this year. Decision to be made (http://www.gpone.com/en/2014010812457/Dovizioso-a-Sepang-proveremo-la-Open.html) at Sepang...

(GPOne.com is an Italian website but they do have Google Translate buttons at the top of their pages for us English speakers.)

Cunning little monkeys. :laugh:

More engines, more testing, more fuel, softer tyres... simpler electronics.

[pritch]

Dirty GP riders?

Hope there is sufficient English coverage because the final should be interesting.

There are three classes: the Superprestigio which is limited to GP riders (all classes). I don't see Rossi in the entries, surprising considering he races flat track on his ranch.
There is an invitation only Open class which includes the current US flat track champ and the instructor from Colin Edwards ranch Merle Scherb. No Tai Woffinden though.
There is an invitation only Junior class.

Top qualifiers from each class meet in a combined final.

Marquez is reviving a series that used to run annually in Spain apparently.

I don't read Spanish but I think this all happens 11 Jan Barcelona time.

[ecko_nzed]

GPOne.com are reporting that Ducati are considering running in the Open class (http://www.gpone.com/en/2014010812456/Rivoluzione-Ducati-si-punta-sulla-Open.html) (spec ECU, more fuel) this year. Decision to be made (http://www.gpone.com/en/2014010812457/Dovizioso-a-Sepang-proveremo-la-Open.html) at Sepang...


Dorna will be happy if it happens, Honda not so much. And hey, if it gets them half a second a lap, Crasher might be paying up :p

[Crasherfromwayback]

, Crasher might be paying up :p

I'm worried about Crutchless going mental in the wet on the thing.

[carbonhed]

I'm worried about Crutchless going mental in the wet on the thing.

Silverstone :yes:

[tail_end_charlie]

........Crasher might be paying up :p


I'm worried about Crutchless going mental in the wet on the thing.


Silverstone :yes:

I'm more worried about him going into orbit.........

[Crasherfromwayback]

Silverstone :yes:

That's one I had in mind. Assen being the other.

[carbonhed]

That's one I had in mind. Assen being the other.

Yep. He likes Assen too.

Just went back and reran last years race on MotoGP.com. One of my favourites.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sounds sexy. Mind you...always did.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/f5dXWok6PRM?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[roogazza]

Sounds sexy. Mind you...always did.

An IL4 and sounds very similar to the Yamaha Pete.
CrossPlane crank ?? :drool:

[codgyoleracer]

Looks good, sounds better, - but its a development bike ?, - so it could be 1200cc and burning funny fuel for all we know ?. Great way of getting free exposure though............ , probably getting more exposure like this now than when it was running around in 10th place during a race .......... (or am i just getting old and sarcastic ? ) :-)

[Crasherfromwayback]

CrossPlane crank ?? :drool:

That it is mate.

[Shaun Harris]

Looks good, sounds better, - but its a development bike ?, - so it could be 1200cc and burning funny fuel for all we know ?. Great way of getting free exposure though............ , probably getting more exposure like this now than when it was running around in 10th place during a race .......... (or am i just getting old and sarcastic ? ) :-)











Nothing FREE about what Suzuki are doing mate. proper or non proper spec machine.

[codgyoleracer]

Nothing FREE about what Suzuki are doing mate. proper or non proper spec machine.

Yep, be great to have em back in the class for sure !

[Shaun Harris]

Yep, be great to have em back in the class for sure !





Sure will mate. But the riders will be trick to there success, getting the right ones?

1 will probally be Rossi due the money he will be able to bring to the cable, but who the 2nd fast future star will be ilike how long is a piece of string?

I would have loved to have seen CC on it, wringing it,s neck

[codgyoleracer]

Sure will mate. But the riders will be trick to there success, getting the right ones?

1 will probally be Rossi due the money he will be able to bring to the cable, but who the 2nd fast future star will be ilike how long is a piece of string?

I would have loved to have seen CC on it, wringing it,s neck


Shame B Spies hung up the boots then

[Shaun Harris]

Shame B Spies hung up the boots then








Sure is man, he would have been awsome. I had a really good talk with Mary his mother yesterday, she is one very cool women, gets a lot of stick on diff web sites, and that;s only because she stands up says what she believes is right. She pissed a lot of people off, but she stood up for anyone that she believed was not getting a fair deal, not just Ben. They will be guest in our country later on this year!

[tail_end_charlie]

Sure is man, he would have been awsome. I had a really good talk with Mary his mother yesterday, she is one very cool women, gets a lot of stick on diff web sites, and that;s only because she stands up says what she believes is right. She pissed a lot of people off, but she stood up for anyone that she believed was not getting a fair deal, not just Ben.

I always thought that she was undeserving of the bad rap she seems to get from most armchair, keyboard experts who don't know shit about shit. :oi-grr:


They will be guest in our country later on this year!

Oh? Are you able to divulge when and where? Would love the chance to meet him.

[tail_end_charlie]

Shame B Spies hung up the boots then

I had gotten the impression that he had retired because of his injuries and that was the easiest way to get people off his back while trying to heal and find his enjoyment in the sport again. Like as in, he may be back in a year or two...........maybe.

[jasonu]

Sounds sexy. Mind you...always did.

>

Yes but not as nice as a 500GP 2 stroke. They will never sound better than that!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes but not as nice as a 500GP 2 stroke. They will never sound better than that!

Nothing does my dear fellow.

[husaberg]

Yes but not as nice as a 500GP 2 stroke. They will never sound better than that!


Nothing does my dear fellow.

wrong..........
Should be nothing sounds better than a GRID FULL of them:bleh:

[Shaun Harris]

I always thought that she was undeserving of the bad rap she seems to get from most armchair, keyboard experts who don't know shit about shit. :oi-grr:



Oh? Are you able to divulge when and where? Would love the chance to meet him.










No sorry man, as there is no def date as yet, and we are not close personell friends, just friends due our sport addiction.

[roogazza]

292221
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/199382/1/ducati-no-further-plans-for-open-motogp-class.html

[pritch]

In case anyone is interested? The commentary is a bit tough to follow if you don't speak Spanish/Catalan or whatever...

http://www.rtve.es/m/alacarta/videos/motociclismo/motociclismo-superprestigio-dirt-track-superfinal-podiums/2302167/?media=tve

[DidJit]

Beat me to it, Pritch!

There’s some more here (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/video-2014-superprestigio/).

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM looks like he was born on a flat track. Would love to see Stoner give him a go.

[denill]

In case anyone is interested? The commentary is a bit tough to follow if you don't speak Spanish/Catalan or whatever...

http://www.rtve.es/m/alacarta/videos/motociclismo/motociclismo-superprestigio-dirt-track-superfinal-podiums/2302167/?media=tve

Hey, thanks for that Pritch. What a race! And I don't think MM had a whinge afterwards - not like some did in '13..:whistle:

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140113noyeshelme.htm> Hey, come for the ride:</A>

[Mental Trousers]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140113noyeshelme.htm> Hey, come for the ride:</A>

That looked like a ridiculous amount of fun.

[DidJit]

Kind of on topic (only because he’s testing for HRC this year) — Mat Oxley’s experiences (http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/inside-the-mind-of-casey-stoner/) with CS27...

[denill]

Kind of on topic (only because he’s testing for HRC this year) — Mat Oxley’s experiences (http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/inside-the-mind-of-casey-stoner/) with CS27...

Thanks DidJit, unwrapped a few issues that have emerged in the stellar, but should have been longer, career of CS27. He will always be in my 'top rider' list. (Now, waiting for the vitriol to follow.) ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

CS27. He will always be in my 'top rider' list. (Now, waiting for the vitriol to follow.) ;)

Fastest guy I've ever seen on a racing motorcycle. I ain't seen MM in the flesh yet but...:Punk:

[pritch]

(Now, waiting for the vitriol to follow.) ;)

Why?

I think when Rossi/Burgess failed to fix the Ducati, most people who didn't appreciate just how good he was re-evaluated Stoner's efforts as a rider.
The surly demeanour didn't help but having read his book I can understand it, although it still doesn't make him loveable.

It'd have to be a real hard liner who was still refusing to acknowledge his ability.

[merv]

MM looks like he was born on a flat track. Would love to see Stoner give him a go.

Well him and Brad Baker were just clearing out, no one else was as quick, but shame he came off on the wrong side of the tangle, but I doubt Marc was concerned about that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

, but shame he came off on the wrong side of the tangle, but I doubt Marc was concerned about that.

Looked like he was loving every single minute of it!

[codgyoleracer]

Great Vid, you'd think Honda would have him wrapped up in cotton wool within his contract to avoid injury, but apparently not !

[Asher]

Lorenzo to Ducati?

"As reported by the radio station, the Mallorcan rider - who had ridden for Yamaha Factory Racing since his debut premier class season in 2008 - has already given Ducati a ‘yes’ with regards to a preliminary agreement for 2015 onwards, with an alleged offer of 15 million euros per season." (http://www.motogp.com/en/MotoGP+in+the+Media)

[denill]

Lorenzo to Ducati?

"As reported by the radio station, the Mallorcan rider - who had ridden for Yamaha Factory Racing since his debut premier class season in 2008 - has already given Ducati a ‘yes’ with regards to a preliminary agreement for 2015 onwards, with an alleged offer of 15 million euros per season." (http://www.motogp.com/en/MotoGP+in+the+Media)

My god, the 'silly season' has started early. <_<

<a href=https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Linda+Morselli&rlz=1T4GGNI_en___NZ527&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=jSzYUobJMOjJiAfCg4HYDw&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1360&bih=570&dpr=1>And talking about Linda:</A>

[Shaun Harris]

My god, the 'silly season' has started early. <_<

<a href=https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Linda+Morselli&rlz=1T4GGNI_en___NZ527&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=jSzYUobJMOjJiAfCg4HYDw&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1360&bih=570&dpr=1>And talking about Linda:</A>













Dont forget Rossi is supposed to be gay, so I guess he just bangs her in the back door hole

[pritch]

Dont forget Rossi is supposed to be gay,

I guess we'll have to wait until Burgess' book is published to find out for sure. About that and a whole lot of other things.

Well, assuming there is to be a book, and I'm really seriously hoping there is...

[ecko_nzed]

I guess we'll have to wait until Burgess' book is published to find out for sure. About that and a whole lot of other things.

Well, assuming there is to be a book, and I'm really seriously hoping there is...

You could take that one to the bank :cool:

[BMWST?]

I think that even given the evidence people still don't understand #27
You can't judge his behaviour from the normal pov.The guy is different,he has a distinct recognised personality trait

[merv]

I always liked Casey's after race interviews when he told it like he saw it and if you all remember he always used the word "we" when he was talking about how it had gone so seemed fairly much a team man.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think that even given the evidence people still don't understand #27
You can't judge his behaviour from the normal pov.The guy is different,he has a distinct recognised personality trait

Don't waste your time Bro. The haters will always hate.

[BMWST?]

Don't waste your time Bro. The haters will always hate.

Read his book?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Read his book?

Wrote it...

[roogazza]

The 2014 MotoGP calendar (provisional):

Date Grand Prix Circuit
23 March Qatar* Doha/Losail
13 April Americas Austin
27 April Argentina Termas de Rio Hondo
04 May Spain Jerez de la Frontera
18 May France Le Mans
1 June Italy Mugello
15 June Catalunya Barcelona- Catalunya
28 June Netherlands** TT Assen
13 July Germany Sachsenring
10 August Indianapolis GP Indianapolis
17 August Czech Republic Brno
31 August Great Britain Silverstone
14 September San Marino & Riviera di Rimini Marco Simoncelli Misano
21 September Aragon MotorLand
28 September Brazil (STH) Brasilia
12 October Japan Motegi
19 October Australia Phillip Island
26 October Malaysia Sepang
09 November Valencia Ricardo Tormo-Valencia

[Dave-]

The 2014 MotoGP calendar (provisional):

Date Grand Prix Circuit
23 March Qatar* Doha/Losail
13 April Americas Austin
27 April Argentina Termas de Rio Hondo
04 May Spain Jerez de la Frontera
18 May France Le Mans
1 June Italy Mugello
15 June Catalunya Barcelona- Catalunya
28 June Netherlands** TT Assen
13 July Germany Sachsenring
10 August Indianapolis GP Indianapolis
17 August Czech Republic Brno
31 August Great Britain Silverstone
14 September San Marino & Riviera di Rimini Marco Simoncelli Misano
21 September Aragon MotorLand
28 September Brazil (STH) Brasilia
12 October Japan Motegi
19 October Australia Phillip Island
26 October Malaysia Sepang
09 November Valencia Ricardo Tormo-Valencia

* Evening Race
** Saturday Race
STH (Subject to the Homologation)

I wondered why they were starred....

[codgyoleracer]

2014 pre-season testing dates:

MotoGP™

4-6 Feb: Sepang, Malaysia

26-28 Feb: Sepang, Malaysia

3-5 Mar: Phillip Island, Australia (Tyre Safety Test)

7-9 Mar: Losail, Qatar

* Featuring factory team official riders only

Moto2™/Moto3™

11-13 Feb: Valencia, Spain

18-20 Feb: Jerez, Spain

11-13 Mar: Jerez, Spain

[pritch]

On the basis of nothing ventured nothing gained, I asked Alex Briggs if Jeremy Burgess was writing a book. Hoping that in the event the idea hadn't occurred to JB, a seed may be planted. Of course I wasn't even confident I'd get an answer.

Mt Briggs is a gentlemen though, and I did receive a reply. Not that he's giving much away :whistle:

"Not right away, he may but then again he may not. Never know with JB. He’s happy at the moment and taken up golf!"

[roogazza]

On the basis of nothing ventured nothing gained, I asked Alex Briggs if Jeremy Burgess was writing a book. Hoping that in the event the idea hadn't occurred to JB, a seed may be planted. Of course I wasn't even confident I'd get an answer.
"Not right away, he may but then again he may not. Never know with JB. He’s happy at the moment and taken up golf!"

Bloody hot in Adelaide at the mo, the Fairways will be dry as a bastard.
He'll be hitting it 300 though ! :lol:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Or...not! We all know it's Stoner. :laugh:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140127mw0s.htm

[Oscar]

I think someone said "..haters gotta hate."

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think someone said "..haters gotta hate."

Lol. Just like someone said "You take the bait so easily" or something along those lines!

[Robert Taylor]

Or...not! We all know it's Stoner. :laugh:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140127mw0s.htm

Bollocks Pete. He has got the mechanical appreciation of an elephant. If he was good he would have made that bike work for everyone.

[mr bucketracer]

Or...not! We all know it's Stoner. :laugh:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140127mw0s.htmdiffient times ,lots of hp when stoner raced it to the 6 engine rule when rossi raced , the only thing the dukes had going for it was Hp

[Shaun Harris]

how dare the last 2 posters suggest such things

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bollocks Pete. He has got the mechanical appreciation of an elephant. If he was good he would have made that bike work for everyone.


diffient times ,lots of hp when stoner raced it to the 6 engine rule when rossi raced , the only thing the dukes had going for it was Hp


Relax folks. That was just to get Oscar out of his trash can! But Robert...I disagree. Seems MM likes it! And HRC seem very keen to keep him on as a tester?

[BMWST?]

diffient times ,lots of hp when stoner raced it to the 6 engine rule when rossi raced , the only thing the dukes had going for it was Hp

Stoner was third on the bike rossi took over

[Oscar]

Lol. Just like someone said "You take the bait so easily" or something along those lines!

Meh.

Did it not occur to you that Dovi, having ridden that POS for a year is also saying something about his own development skills?
Glass houses etc...


Which also applies to you, Mrs Casey, given your usual shrill defense of your husband.

[Shaun Harris]

Stoner was third on the bike rossi took over







some people can ride a bike with square wheels ie Jason Mc cewan, And CS could do obviously do that well also.









Personally I still think Rossi is the better all rider, but we all have our own opinions on life

[300weatherby]

Bollocks Pete. He has got the mechanical appreciation of an elephant. If he was good he would have made that bike work for everyone.

Robert, tell me why a top lever racer that can and did, beat the best again and again on a bike no one else can ride, would develop the bike so others can win on it?, by implication you would also be including Rossi as having "the mechanical appreciation of an elephant".

Rossi could not ride his way out of a wet paper bag on it and had a couple of years to sort it. The haters will continue to hate.......

[Crasherfromwayback]

Meh.

Did it not occur to you that Dovi, having ridden that POS for a year is also saying something about his own development skills?
Glass houses etc...


Which also applies to you, Mrs Casey, given your usual shrill defense of your husband.

Meh. Well Mrs Rossi...it appears your sense of humour is about as good as Rossi's loyalty. Do you SERIOUSLY think they'd listen to Dovi over Rossi? Ask yourself.

[Oscar]

Meh. Well Mrs Rossi...it appears your sense of humour is about as good as Rossi's loyalty. Do you SERIOUSLY think they'd listen to Dovi over Rossi? Ask yourself.

As said, haters gotta hate.

Who's gonna get you hard when Vale retires?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi could not ride his way out of a wet paper bag on it and had a couple of years to sort it. The haters will continue to hate.......

Despite the stats blatantly showing Stoner is a faster/better racer than Rossi (Rossi fans love stats...the fav being the old 9 titles trick), they'll never be man enough to admit it. Because Rossi was just so...so...so god damn gayly flamboyant! And if anyone dare to suggest Rossi was actually over rated as a development rider...especially as they've taken great delight over the years in claiming Stoner to be so...look out! Now here's one for ya. HRC still want Stoner to stay on as more than likely...THE test rider. Do you think Yamaha will do the same with Rossi when he retires? Maybe Ducati will? My guess is...nah.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Who's gonna get you hard when Vale retires?

Think you have me confused with the guy in the mirror Oscar.

[Oscar]

Think you have me confused with the guy in the mirror Oscar.

Nah, he's far too clever to come up with a lame riposte like that.
Needs a shave though..

[pritch]

I don't think it mattered who was riding the Duc as far as development goes 'cause the factory didn't listen.
When Stoner won they congratulated themselves because the bike was obviously a winner.
When he crashed it was deemed to be his fault.
Either way, no changes were necessary in their mind.

Rossi's reputation as a development took a major hit. Although various bits were replaced in respnse to his criticisms, the problems as yet remain unsolved.

Hope Ducati can get it sorted soon as it would be a shame to lose them, and Malborough are reportedly becoming impatient.

[300weatherby]

Despite the stats blatantly showing Stoner is a faster/better racer than Rossi (Rossi fans love stats...the fav being the old 9 titles trick), they'll never be man enough to admit it. Because Rossi was just so...so...so god damn gayly flamboyant! And if anyone dare to suggest Rossi was actually over rated as a development rider...especially as they've taken great delight over the years in claiming Stoner to be so...look out! Now here's one for ya. HRC still want Stoner to stay on as more than likely...THE test rider. Do you think Yamaha will do the same with Rossi when he retires? Maybe Ducati will? My guess is...nah.

Hahahaha!, Yamaha would trample over Rossi's upturned arse to have Stoner ride the bike, HRC want Stoner for a reason, and it aint cause he gives woodies to the groupies in yellow......... I wonder if there is a secret clause in Stoners test contract that allows for him to ride the bike if Ped or MM get hurt............. Stoner and MM vs Lorenzo if Lorenzo brings the A game he had bought to the last few races of 2013, would that give you wood? fuck yes!:woohoo:

[Reckless]

Despite the stats blatantly showing Stoner is a faster/better racer than Rossi (Rossi fans love stats...the fav being the old 9 titles trick), they'll never be man enough to admit it. Because Rossi was just so...so...so god damn gayly flamboyant! And if anyone dare to suggest Rossi was actually over rated as a development rider...especially as they've taken great delight over the years in claiming Stoner to be so...look out! Now here's one for ya. HRC still want Stoner to stay on as more than likely...THE test rider. Do you think Yamaha will do the same with Rossi when he retires? Maybe Ducati will? My guess is...nah.

Oh FFS Crasher Stoner was faster. Want me to repeat it. but he was in the sport for 5 bloody minutes before he had a guts full of it and went of to race tintops. LIGHTEN UP BROTHER, getting a little tired of the constant stoner vs rossi ra ra posts. All it does is create another two pages of nothing to do with the 2014 season.
Rossi IS on his last gamble with his new crew chief Silvano, if that don't work he's fucked! If he isnt past it already??


I don't think it mattered who was riding the Duc as far as development goes 'cause the factory didn't listen.
When Stoner won they congratulated themselves because the bike was obviously a winner.
When he crashed it was deemed to be his fault.
Either way, no changes were necessary in their mind.

Rossi's reputation as a development took a major hit. Although various bits were replaced in response to his criticisms, the problems as yet remain unsolved.

Hope Ducati can get it sorted soon as it would be a shame to lose them, and Marlborough are reportedly becoming impatient.
Bingo got it in one!! Be a crying same to loose a factory just when we are gaining another in Suzuki??

[Shaun Harris]

Oh FFS Crasher Stoner was faster. Want me to repeat it. but he was in the sport for 5 bloody minutes before he had a guts full of it and went of to race tintops. LIGHTEN UP BROTHER, getting a little tired of the constant stoner vs rossi ra ra posts. All it does is create another two pages of nothing to do with the 2014 season.
Rossi IS on his last gamble with his new crew chief Silvano, if that don't work he's fucked! If he isnt past it already??


Bingo got it in one!! Be a crying same to loose a factory just when we are gaining another in Suzuki??
















That;ll be enough logic on here thanks mate.

[Robert Taylor]

Robert, tell me why a top lever racer that can and did, beat the best again and again on a bike no one else can ride, would develop the bike so others can win on it?, by implication you would also be including Rossi as having "the mechanical appreciation of an elephant".

Rossi could not ride his way out of a wet paper bag on it and had a couple of years to sort it. The haters will continue to hate.......

Dont like him, never have. So be it.

[Shaun Harris]

Dont like him, never have. So be it.








Haha honesty will get ya in trouble around here man, dam sth taranaki louts

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh FFS Crasher Stoner was faster. Want me to repeat it. but he was in the sport for 5 bloody minutes before he had a guts full of it and went of to race tintops. LIGHTEN UP BROTHER, getting a little tired of the constant stoner vs rossi ra ra posts. All it does is create another two pages of nothing to do with the 2014 season.
Rossi IS on his last gamble with his new crew chief Silvano, if that don't work he's fucked! If he isnt past it already??


Oh FFS Reckless! Why don't you rark up Oscar...yourself and the other Rossi arse lickers! Getting a bit sick of it. LIGHTEN UP BROTHER!

Getting a tired of the constant rossi vs stoner ra ra posts.

Maybe it's just that we're bored and winding each other up...and you're a bit upset about God know's what. Did you notice that Stoner took his crew everywhere he went and showed them total loyalty to the bitter end?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh FFS Crasher Stoner was faster. but he was in the sport for 5 bloody minutes before he had a guts full of it and went of to race tintops. ??

Ps: Get your facts straight numb nuts.

[Shaun Harris]

Did you notice that Stoner took his crew everywhere he went and showed them total loyalty to the bitter end?




he sure did, but it wasn;t for very long anyway, easy to put up with wankers for a short time

[eelracing]

The Diary of Mr & Mrs Caseyfromwayback...

Pete's Diary:
Tonight,I thought Casey was acting weird.We made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner.
Conversation wasn't flowing,so I suggested we go somewhere quiet so we could talk.
He agreed,but didn't say much.I asked him what was wrong;He said "nothing".I asked "if it was my fault that he was upset"?
He said he wasn't upset'that it had nothing to do with me,and not to worry about it.

On the way home I told him that I love him.He smiled slightly and kept driving.
I can't explain his behaviour,I don't know why he didn't say I love you to.
When we got home I felt that I had lost him completely,as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore.
He just sat there quietly and watched TV.He continued to seem distant and absent,finally with silence all around us,I went to bed.
About 15 minutes later,he came to bed.But I still felt he was distracted,and his thoughts were somewhere else.

He fell asleep-I cried.I don't know what to do.I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else.
My life is a disaster.


Casey's Diary:
Motorcycle won't handle...can't figure out why,and Pete wont shut the fuck up.

[sharp2183]

The Diary of Mr & Mrs Caseyfromwayback...

Pete's Diary:
Tonight,I thought Casey was acting weird.We made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner.
Conversation wasn't flowing,so I suggested we go somewhere quiet so we could talk.
He agreed,but didn't say much.I asked him what was wrong;He said "nothing".I asked "if it was my fault that he was upset"?
He said he wasn't upset'that it had nothing to do with me,and not to worry about it.

On the way home I told him that I love him.He smiled slightly and kept driving.
I can't explain his behaviour,I don't know why he didn't say I love you to.
When we got home I felt that I had lost him completely,as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore.
He just sat there quietly and watched TV.He continued to seem distant and absent,finally with silence all around us,I went to bed.
About 15 minutes later,he came to bed.But I still felt he was distracted,and his thoughts were somewhere else.

He fell asleep-I cried.I don't know what to do.I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else.
My life is a disaster.


Casey's Diary:
Motorcycle won't handle...can't figure out why,and Pete wont shut the fuck up.


Been reading this thread for a while but never bothered to comment. But THAT is some classic shit right there!

[Bender]

That is pretty funny.

But whoever said CS was in the sport for 5 minutes does need to get their facts straight. He started riding competitively before he started school. Read his book, it says a lot about his attitude and why he quit so early.

[Oscar]

Oh FFS Reckless! Why don't you rark up Oscar...yourself and the other Rossi arse lickers! Getting a bit sick of it. LIGHTEN UP BROTHER!

Getting a tired of the constant rossi vs stoner ra ra posts.

Maybe it's just that we're bored and winding each other up...and you're a bit upset about God know's what. Did you notice that Stoner took his crew everywhere he went and showed them total loyalty to the bitter end?

Bwahahaha!
For someone who was supposed to be trolling with stinky chum, you've bitten your own hook and are covered in fish guts.

All I said was: "Haters gotta hate."
You're the one that brought up Rossi v. Stoner, again, and now you're complaining about it.
Classic:yes:

[Shaun Harris]

I used to be gullable a whilst back, now it just turns out im a fuk witt, o well:tugger:

[steveyb]

The Diary of Mr & Mrs Caseyfromwayback...

Pete's Diary:
Tonight,I thought Casey was acting weird.We made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner.
Conversation wasn't flowing,so I suggested we go somewhere quiet so we could talk.
He agreed,but didn't say much.I asked him what was wrong;He said "nothing".I asked "if it was my fault that he was upset"?
He said he wasn't upset'that it had nothing to do with me,and not to worry about it.

On the way home I told him that I love him.He smiled slightly and kept driving.
I can't explain his behaviour,I don't know why he didn't say I love you to.
When we got home I felt that I had lost him completely,as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore.
He just sat there quietly and watched TV.He continued to seem distant and absent,finally with silence all around us,I went to bed.
About 15 minutes later,he came to bed.But I still felt he was distracted,and his thoughts were somewhere else.

He fell asleep-I cried.I don't know what to do.I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else.
My life is a disaster.


Casey's Diary:
Motorcycle won't handle...can't figure out why,and Pete wont shut the fuck up.

I larfed and larfed and larfed.....

[slowpoke]

Stoner was third on the bike rossi took over

C'mon mate, it's not hard to get this stuff right....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Grand_Prix_motorcycle_racing_season

The lil' Aussie battler was only 4th in the 2010 standings. Lorenzo slaughtered everyone, scoring 383 points, while the 'strayan managed just 225. The other Yamaha rider, I forget his name now, broke his leg, missed 4 races and still came in ahead of the Aussie kid.

I don't particularly care for the wog or the dingo but the D16 was undeniably a piece of poo and only getting pooier by the time the wog climbed aboard.

Note: names have been omitted to protect the women and children from the inevitable blood letting.

[tail_end_charlie]

The Diary of Mr & Mrs Caseyfromwayback...

Pete's Diary:
Tonight,I thought Casey was acting weird.We made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner.
Conversation wasn't flowing,so I suggested we go somewhere quiet so we could talk.
He agreed,but didn't say much.I asked him what was wrong;He said "nothing".I asked "if it was my fault that he was upset"?
He said he wasn't upset'that it had nothing to do with me,and not to worry about it.

On the way home I told him that I love him.He smiled slightly and kept driving.
I can't explain his behaviour,I don't know why he didn't say I love you to.
When we got home I felt that I had lost him completely,as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore.
He just sat there quietly and watched TV.He continued to seem distant and absent,finally with silence all around us,I went to bed.
About 15 minutes later,he came to bed.But I still felt he was distracted,and his thoughts were somewhere else.

He fell asleep-I cried.I don't know what to do.I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else.
My life is a disaster.


Casey's Diary:
Motorcycle won't handle...can't figure out why,and Pete wont shut the fuck up.

Fuckin' epic! :2thumbsup

[Crasherfromwayback]

The Diary of Mr & Mrs Caseyfromwayback...

Pete's Diary:
Tonight,I thought Casey was acting weird.We made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner.
Conversation wasn't flowing,so I suggested we go somewhere quiet so we could talk.
He agreed,but didn't say much.I asked him what was wrong;He said "nothing".I asked "if it was my fault that he was upset"?
He said he wasn't upset'that it had nothing to do with me,and not to worry about it.

On the way home I told him that I love him.He smiled slightly and kept driving.
I can't explain his behaviour,I don't know why he didn't say I love you to.
When we got home I felt that I had lost him completely,as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore.
He just sat there quietly and watched TV.He continued to seem distant and absent,finally with silence all around us,I went to bed.
About 15 minutes later,he came to bed.But I still felt he was distracted,and his thoughts were somewhere else.

He fell asleep-I cried.I don't know what to do.I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else.
My life is a disaster.


Casey's Diary:
Motorcycle won't handle...can't figure out why,and Pete wont shut the fuck up.

Lol. If I had a chocolate fish handy I'd give it to ya!

[GD66]

C'mon mate, it's not hard to get this stuff right....


the D16 was undeniably a piece of poo and only getting pooier by the time the wog climbed aboard.


Yet Stoner won three of the last six races of the 2010 season.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Now look what you big meanies have done! I just called Casey to get him to stand up for me/us...and the bitch hung up in my ear. He's so not my BF anymore.

[tail_end_charlie]

They have probably already been posted previously (I know I have linked to some of them before) but if anyone wants to take another look, there are some Great Pics (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/newind.htm/) up on Soup posted on 1.24.2014 (yes they put dates up month/day/year format in the States). Pics include:

Deep Inside A 2013 Yamaha M1 MotoGP Racer
Images of Casey Stoner's Honda RC213V MotoGP Racer
The Attack CRT MotoGP Bike (Again)
In Detail: Ant West's QMMF Honda Moto2 Racer
Deep Inside Attack Racing's CRT MotoGP Bike
Quick Look: '12 Yamaha M1 MotoGP Racer
2011 Yamaha M1 MotoGP Racer # 2
2011 Yamaha M1 MotoGP Racer # 1
2012 Honda RC213V MotoGP Racer
Yamaha's M1 MotoGP Bike: The All-Rounder

==> Thought about linking them all individually, but couldn't be fucked to do that. You can get to the page and figure it out yourself.....

[denill]

It distinctly looks like a MotoGP.com subscription this year.

I wrote to Sommet Sports: Sorry, but I'm getting nervous........ When do you expect to make a MotoGP 2014 coverage announcement - one way or the other?

Sommet Sports replied: I am sorry but we have no further news at this stage.

[tail_end_charlie]

It distinctly looks like a MotoGP.com subscription this year.

I have had it for the past two years and I've been very happy with it. Watch all the practices, qualifiing, and races live, or whenever you can. Access to all the past races back to early 2000's, so you can go back and relive (or see for the first time) some of those classic races people are always talking about.

Have had a few issues while trying to stream the live races this past year, but I detirmined that the problem was with my computer/internet connection. Also, need to make sure you have a half decent broadband plan with good speed so that you can see it in HD. Then grab a HDMI cable, hook it up to your TV, and watch it in 50" glory.

[Oscar]

It distinctly looks like a MotoGP.com subscription this year.

I wrote to Sommet Sports: Sorry, but I'm getting nervous........ When do you expect to make a MotoGP 2014 coverage announcement - one way or the other?

Sommet Sports replied: I am sorry but we have no further news at this stage.

I subscribed to MotoGP.com last year and it was pretty good.
We're out in the country, so it wasn't always HD quality, but OK.

[Oscar]

Now look what you big meanies have done! I just called Casey to get him to stand up for me/us...and the bitch hung up in my ear. He's so not my BF anymore.

I'll get Vale to give you a call.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'll get Vale to give you a call.

0800 brokenhearted

[Crasherfromwayback]

It distinctly looks like a MotoGP.com subscription this year.

I wrote to Sommet Sports: Sorry, but I'm getting nervous........ When do you expect to make a MotoGP 2014 coverage announcement - one way or the other?

Sommet Sports replied: I am sorry but we have no further news at this stage.

Bugger! Mind you...I stll did motogp.com last year anyway so you can watch and session of any class etc.

[jasonu]

It distinctly looks like a MotoGP.com subscription this year.

I wrote to Sommet Sports: Sorry, but I'm getting nervous........ When do you expect to make a MotoGP 2014 coverage announcement - one way or the other?

Sommet Sports replied: I am sorry but we have no further news at this stage.

They will all play live or at worst the next day here in Merica.:clap::clap::clap:

[pritch]

The charge for MotoGP coverage is OK but I'm a bit nervous about what will happen with WSBK. Don't really want to pay 200 Euros.

[Shaun Harris]

The charge for MotoGP coverage is OK but I'm a bit nervous about what will happen with WSBK. Don't really want to pay 200 Euros.





I dont want to pay a cent as where I am living now in New Plymouth is total crap service for Broadband, man has the comp slowed down big big time, but the view of the ocean is very special

[BMWST?]

C'mon mate, it's not hard to get this stuff right....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Grand_Prix_motorcycle_racing_season

The lil' Aussie battler was only 4th in the 2010 standings. Lorenzo slaughtered everyone, scoring 383 points, while the 'strayan managed just 225. The other Yamaha rider, I forget his name now, broke his leg, missed 4 races and still came in ahead of the Aussie kid.

I don't particularly care for the wog or the dingo but the D16 was undeniably a piece of poo and only getting pooier by the time the wog climbed aboard.

Note: names have been omitted to protect the women and children from the inevitable blood letting.

I meant he was third in the last race of the season. Mate

[pritch]

Hmmm I may have more to worry about than paying Dorna twice. If I'm going to download SBK as well as GPs I'll probably need a bigger broadband plan.
Was Ok last year except for the "away" leg: Australian, Malaysian, and Japanese races. Got a bit close to my limit there.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hmmm I may have more to worry about than paying Dorna twice. If I'm going to download SBK as well as GPs I'll probably need a bigger broadband plan.
Was Ok last year except for the "away" leg: Australian, Malaysian, and Japanese races. Got a bit close to my limit there.

Only my opinion of course...but SBK looks a lil fucked to me.

[Reckless]

Well that stirred up a hornets nest :Oops::jerry:

Re the MotoGP subscription: Never had any problem with connection or speed at my boys house or my place.
We share the cost and the subscription, makes for great father son Moto GP nights, well worth it for 70 bucks odd each?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well that stirred up a hornets nest :Oops::jerry:

Re the MotoGP subscription: Never had any problem with connection or speed at my boys house or my place.
We share the cost and the subscription, makes for great father son Moto GP nights, well worth it for 70 bucks odd each?

Lol. Certainly did that. For the record...as heated as it may get interweeb wise...it's just that. Not like we're like the Engrish Soccer hooligans that are about to go on a stabbing frenzy! I will apologise for over doing my love for Stoner...it was meant as tounge in cheek windups. The pc simply cannot convey the lolols I was doing whilst typing my responses.

I think you're all pretty good cunts that simply love road racing.

Here's one for you all. *If* I mention Stoner vs Rossi one more time this year...I'll shout you all a doz of your choice. Delivered to your door.

Fair?

Flipside...you must do likewise. Although I doubt the Rossi fans will ever mention his name...

[Reckless]

Lol. Certainly did that. For the record...as heated as it may get interweeb wise...it's just that. Not like we're like the Engrish Soccer hooligans that are about to go on a stabbing frenzy! I will apologise for over doing my love for Stoner...it was meant as tounge in cheek windups. The pc simply cannot convey the lolols I was doing whilst typing my responses.

I think you're all pretty good cunts that simply love road racing.

Here's one for you all. *If* I mention Stoner vs Rossi one more time this year...I'll shout you all a doz of your choice. Delivered to your door.

Fair?

Flipside...you must do likewise. Although I doubt the Rossi fans will ever mention his name...

Your a good cunt 2 crasher :2thumbsup Fair enough mate.

I didn't think I cracked on about Rossi that much and I loved watching the Stoner style!!! We are just lucky MM has a similar style to watch aye :) Hated that little shit when he first started Moto GP but you just cant deny the talent. Made me eat my opinions with a well won world tittle, the little shit!

Buggered if I know TBH who I'm gonna support this season?? Rossi hasn't quite got it no more, Crutchlow is screwed, Pedro not sure if he can ever step up, MM I just cant do it, Might have to be Lorenzo after his great last race??

Ah well 14 hour day and I gotta start at 7am project management sucks sometimes bring on the GP season.

[slowpoke]

I meant he was third in the last race of the season. Mate

Sorry only winding you up, but best you check the link, lol.

[Shaun Harris]

Lol. Certainly did that. For the record...as heated as it may get interweeb wise...it's just that. Not like we're like the Engrish Soccer hooligans that are about to go on a stabbing frenzy! I will apologise for over doing my love for Stoner...it was meant as tounge in cheek windups. The pc simply cannot convey the lolols I was doing whilst typing my responses.

I think you're all pretty good cunts that simply love road racing.

Here's one for you all. *If* I mention Stoner vs Rossi one more time this year...I'll shout you all a doz of your choice. Delivered to your door.

Fair?

Flipside...you must do likewise. Although I doubt the Rossi fans will ever mention his name...










wow now that is a big move from a man who likes his beer. As talented as Stoner is, I just do not like his personallity

[merv]

wow now that is a big move from a man who likes his beer. As talented as Stoner is, I just do not like his personallity
If he dyed his hair ginger would he be okay?

[pritch]

wow now that is a big move from a man who likes his beer. As talented as Stoner is, I just do not like his personallity

On the cover of his book he's wearing a big smile. The uncharitable thought occurred that they must've had a high speed camera to catch that. :whistle:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Would Crutchless smile if Ducati go *Open*?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140129mk.htm

I'd rather race a Sat Yam.

[jasonu]

Lol. Certainly did that. For the record...as heated as it may get interweeb wise...it's just that. Not like we're like the Engrish Soccer hooligans that are about to go on a stabbing frenzy! I will apologise for over doing my love for Stoner...it was meant as tounge in cheek windups. The pc simply cannot convey the lolols I was doing whilst typing my responses.

I think you're all pretty good cunts that simply love road racing.

Here's one for you all. *If* I mention Stoner vs Rossi one more time this year...I'll shout you all a doz of your choice. Delivered to your door.

Fair?

Flipside...you must do likewise. Although I doubt the Rossi fans will ever mention his name...


Your a good cunt 2 crasher :2thumbsup Fair enough mate.

I didn't think I cracked on about Rossi that much and I loved watching the Stoner style!!! We are just lucky MM has a similar style to watch aye :) Hated that little shit when he first started Moto GP but you just cant deny the talent. Made me eat my opinions with a well won world tittle, the little shit!

Buggered if I know TBH who I'm gonna support this season?? Rossi hasn't quite got it no more, Crutchlow is screwed, Pedro not sure if he can ever step up, MM I just cant do it, Might have to be Lorenzo after his great last race??

Ah well 14 hour day and I gotta start at 7am project management sucks sometimes bring on the GP season.


Sorry only winding you up, but best you check the link, lol.

Time you poofs had a group hug me thinks.

[tail_end_charlie]

Would Crutchless smile if Ducati go *Open*?

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Jan/140129mk.htm

I'd rather race a Sat Yam.


Depends on how vain one is I guess. He's got a factory seat that he wanted so badly (not the best factory option, but still) and they now have a lead hand that may actually get a bike working (Dall'Igna) and Cal is most likely going to be a key part of the team evaluating different parts and concepts. Might actually feel like he has some input into things, instead of just endlessly fiddling with setup and never testing anything new as he would with the satellite Yamaha.

.........................plus he's probably getting somewhere between 5x and 10x the salary................

[Crasherfromwayback]

Time you poofs had a group hug me thinks.

We're having one tonight Bro.


Depends on how vain one is I guess. He's got a factory seat that he wanted so badly (not the best factory option, but still) and they now have a lead hand that may actually get a bike working (Dall'Igna) and Cal is most likely going to be a key part of the team evaluating different parts and concepts. Might actually feel like he has some input into things, instead of just endlessly fiddling with setup and never testing anything new as he would with the satellite Yamaha.

.........................plus he's probably getting somewhere between 5x and 10x the salary................

He may well have a factory ride ride as such...but if it's in *open* spec...then that'd be a bit sucky. Sure the money would be waaaaaaay better...but open spec Duc? Still...it may be not much worse than the factory bike.

[Drew]

.but open spec Duc? Still...it may be not much worse than the factory bike.Can those fucken shit boxes ever compete without an advantage of displacement?

Give the two factory riders the arse, and run as an open is the only way that bike is getting anywhere near the pointy end of any grid.

Take away Mr Stoner and his ability to will the pile of shit round a corner, and the company shouldn't be allowed to fucken enter MotoGP given the past three years results!

Fuck, they could drop GP and actually develop their current road bike to try and get it competitive in Superbike. At least that way they aren't gonna run dead fucen last in BOTH classes.

I hate Ducati. You can prolly tell. I can't help but wonder if that has something to do with my lack of sympathy for Stoner.

[codgyoleracer]

0800 brokenhearted

LOL, VR may still win a few yet, but the dream of taking outright all-time win total off AGO is not looking good at all.........

[300weatherby]

LOL, VR may still win a few yet, but the dream of taking outright all-time win total off AGO is not looking good at all.........

Taking bets that Rossi does not win again, Ago is safe methinks.

[Crasherfromwayback]

LOL, VR may still win a few yet, but the dream of taking outright all-time win total off AGO is not looking good at all.........

He's such a canny geezer! I'm thinking Assen could be his only win for 2014.

[DidJit]

Good reading (http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/01/29/ducati-set-to-shake-up-motogp-with-new-open-strategy/)...

[roogazza]

Good reading (http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/01/29/ducati-set-to-shake-up-motogp-with-new-open-strategy/)...

Thanks for posting that up DidJit. Bit messy again this year with classes within a class. Maybe it'll be sorted for 2015.

[Badjelly]

Maybe it'll be sorted for 2115.

Fixed that for you.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The Diary of Mr & Mrs Caseyfromwayback...

Pete's Diary:
Tonight,I thought Casey was acting weird.We made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner.
Conversation wasn't flowing,so I suggested we go somewhere quiet so we could talk.
He agreed,but didn't say much.I asked him what was wrong;He said "nothing".I asked "if it was my fault that he was upset"?
He said he wasn't upset'that it had nothing to do with me,and not to worry about it.

On the way home I told him that I love him.He smiled slightly and kept driving.
I can't explain his behaviour,I don't know why he didn't say I love you to.
When we got home I felt that I had lost him completely,as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore.
He just sat there quietly and watched TV.He continued to seem distant and absent,finally with silence all around us,I went to bed.
About 15 minutes later,he came to bed.But I still felt he was distracted,and his thoughts were somewhere else.

He fell asleep-I cried.I don't know what to do.I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else.
My life is a disaster.


Casey's Diary:
Motorcycle won't handle...can't figure out why,and Pete wont shut the fuck up.

Something like this right?

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[Mental Trousers]

.but open spec Duc? Still...it may be not much worse than the factory bike.Can those fucken shit boxes ever compete without an advantage of displacement?

Give the two factory riders the arse, and run as an open is the only way that bike is getting anywhere near the pointy end of any grid.

Take away Mr Stoner and his ability to will the pile of shit round a corner, and the company shouldn't be allowed to fucken enter MotoGP given the past three years results!

Fuck, they could drop GP and actually develop their current road bike to try and get it competitive in Superbike. At least that way they aren't gonna run dead fucen last in BOTH classes.

I hate Ducati. You can prolly tell. I can't help but wonder if that has something to do with my lack of sympathy for Stoner.

Going Open class doesn't give the Ducatis any advantage in the engine/fuel area. About the only thing it would help with is the softer tyre that's available for the Open class. A softer front could help with the front end problems they've had on that thing since forever, but it won't cure it. However, a softer tyre on the back end could make their front truly horrible/dangerous.

As for concentrating on one class it's not a bad idea. I'm certain that Gigi Dal'Ignia can sort out all of Ducati's racing woes, but trying to sort MotoGP and WSBK at the same time he could be spreading himself too thin. However, the Ducatis are right at the front in most domestic competitions (along with Kawasakis and BMWs) that use the EVO style rules so it's quite likely he won't have to do much there.

Does this dislike for Ducati come from lots of crashing that bent pile of shit you raced??

EDIT Actually there is an engine advantage in Ducati going Open class - there's an engine development freeze on the factory bikes but not the Open class. That could end up being a huge advantage.

[Crasherfromwayback]

EDIT Actually there is an engine advantage in Ducati going Open class - there's an engine development freeze on the factory bikes but not the Open class. That could end up being a huge advantage.

Correct. More engines and fuel yeah?

[tail_end_charlie]

Going Open class doesn't give the Ducatis any advantage in the engine/fuel area.

It does give them an extra 4 litres of fuel to play with, at the downside of using spec ECU and software. The prevailing opinion seems to be that the Ducati electronics are the least advanced of the factories, so maybe that won't hurt them all that much.


About the only thing it would help with is the softer tyre that's available for the Open class. A softer front could help with the front end problems they've had on that thing since forever, but it won't cure it. However, a softer tyre on the back end could make their front truly horrible/dangerous.

Open class will have the same choice in the front tire as the Factory bikes (soft and hard) where as on the rear the have the choice between extra-soft and soft. The factory bikes have a choice between soft and hard on the rear. So everyone will still only have two fronts and two rears to choose from, the Open boys just getting a step down on softness with the rear.

Somewhere (can't remember where now) I read a comment from Hayden saying that he would really like to try the extra-soft rear that the CRT's were running (this was obviously last season when he was still with Ducati). His reasoning was that the Ducati almost always ran with the soft rear option, but was still have trouble with the rear pumping and spinning up, the CRT extra-soft rear may give them the extra grip to keep from spinning up. I would hazard a guess that their spinning problems are partly due to a shorter swingarm than the Honda and Yamaha along with a harsher power delivery (not as advanced TC system).


As for concentrating on one class it's not a bad idea. I'm certain that Gigi Dal'Ignia can sort out all of Ducati's racing woes, but trying to sort MotoGP and WSBK at the same time he could be spreading himself too thin. However, the Ducatis are right at the front in most domestic competitions (along with Kawasakis and BMWs) that use the EVO style rules so it's quite likely he won't have to do much there.

Does this dislike for Ducati come from lots of crashing that bent pile of shit you raced??

EDIT Actually there is an engine advantage in Ducati going Open class - there's an engine development freeze on the factory bikes but not the Open class. That could end up being a huge advantage.

I would suspect that this last bit would be the biggest advantage to Ducati. They will be able to expiriment throughout the season trying to smooth out power delivery (through internal engine work) as well as fiddling with engine placement in the frame (which would probably require new cases) and having an allowance of 12 engines would mean that they try something new every other race......

IMHO the only downside to going Open would be the outsiders preception, as well as having to admit publicly they are struggling and need help. This may actually be a really good thing for Dal'Ignia to force them to do, swallow some of their pride and work their asses off in a cooperative way to get themselves competative. Use 2014 as a testing year and come up with some solutions, step back up to Factory status in 2015 and compete evenly again with Yamaha and Honda. The first thing they have to do is admit that there is a problem with the bike, going Open class would do that.......

[Mental Trousers]

Correct. More engines and fuel yeah?


It does give them an extra 4 litres of fuel to play with, at the downside of using spec ECU and software. The prevailing opinion seems to be that the Ducati electronics are the least advanced of the factories, so maybe that won't hurt them all that much.

Thing is their engine already runs extremely well on 21 litres so the extra fuel is useless for power, but it can help make up for the less advanced electronics by making the mixture rich on the overrun to help with engine braking and things like that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thing is their engine already runs extremely well on 21 litres so the extra fuel is useless for power, but it can help make up for the less advanced electronics by making the mixture rich on the overrun to help with engine braking and things like that.

Yeah but that's not to say they couldn't make even more power with more fuel.

[Mental Trousers]

Yeah but that's not to say they couldn't make even more power with more fuel.

They won't get more power at existing engine speeds as those engines squeeze the absolute maximum out of air/fuel as they are. More power requires more air which means more revs.

[Crasherfromwayback]

They won't get more power at existing engine speeds as those engines squeeze the absolute maximum out of air/fuel as they are. .

You'd have to be able to know what sort of air/fuel ratio they're using to say that Bro.

[Mental Trousers]

You'd have to be able to know what sort of air/fuel ratio they're using to say that Bro.

It's a matter of physics. The amount of energy in fuel is a known quantity and that takes a known amount of air to etc. Subtract losses due to friction etc and apparently Ducati are very close to optimal.

Besides, power has never been a problem for the Ducati's, using the power they make is.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's a matter of physics. The amount of energy in fuel is a known quantity and that takes a known amount of air to etc. Subtract losses due to friction etc and apparently Ducati are very close to optimal.

Besides, power has never been a problem for the Ducati's, using the power they make is.

Yeah but you're assuming they don't lean it off towards the end of the race etc if they're getting low on fuel...plus...they're going down to 20l this year too no? So even *IF* they've had the luxury of running optimal fuel/air ratio for the full race distances, doesn't mean they'll have the same luxury with 1l less.

[Mental Trousers]

Yeah but you're assuming they don't lean it off towards the end of the race etc if they're getting low on fuel...plus...they're going down to 20l this year too no? So even *IF* they've had the luxury of running optimal fuel/air ratio for the full race distances, doesn't mean they'll have the same luxury with 1l less.

So what you're saying is they can maintain peak power for longer with the increased fuel capacity, which is right. Just took a few posts to agree :)

[Bender]

They'd make good drag bikes then.

It's only when confronted with the bendy bits that Ducati come unstuck. Where'dat front go?

[Crasherfromwayback]

So what you're saying is they can maintain peak power for longer with the increased fuel capacity, which is right. Just took a few posts to agree :)

Lol. Think every single team would love to be able to carry as much fuel as they like.

[roogazza]

Or with having more fuel at their disposal,they don't need the more fancy, complicated electronics ??? No ?

[Drew]

Does this dislike for Ducati come from lots of crashing that bent pile of shit you raced??

No, I hate myself for doubting sht I was 'feeling' on the bike and not doing something about it in that instance. Not the bikes fault at all. Shit, on the 'R' model there were adjustments that could have made it work with the wrong tripple clamps we had.



Oh yeah, with regards to rich/lean fuel mixtures. If they can afford to dump fuel on over run and cool the exhaust valves, then more power can be extracted from the current motors. At 21/20 litres that simply isn't an option.

No one is getting maximum energy from the fuel they burn. 100% efficiency is impossible in an internal combustion engine with current materials known to man.

[Mental Trousers]

Lol. Think every single team would love to be able to carry as much fuel as they like.

Don't the customer Honda's only have 22 litre tanks though?? Something about Honda saying anything more is ballast/waste/blah.

[Drew]

Don't the customer Honda's only have 22 litre tanks though?? Something about Honda saying anything more is ballast/waste/blah.With that particular manufacturer, it's prolly an arse covering in case a customer bike gets in front of one they own.

[Mental Trousers]

No, I hate myself for doubting shat I was 'feeling' on the bike and not doing something about it. Not the bikes fault at all. Shit, on the 'R' model there were adjustments that could have made it work with the wrong tripple clamps we had.

Hindsight can really piss you off like that


Oh yeah, with regards to rich/lean fuel mixtures. If they can afford to dump fuel on over run and cool the exhaust valves, then more power can be extracted from the current motors. At 21/20 litres that simply isn't an option.

No one is getting maximum energy from the fuel they burn. 100% efficiency is impossible in an internal combustion engine with current materials known to man.

100% IS impossible. But for an internal combustion engine the MotoGP factory bikes are about as close as anyone can get from the type of fuel they use.

[Drew]

Hindsight can really piss you off like thatMy fur coat it can. I get quite depressed thinking, "what if" about my time on that bike.






100% IS impossible. But for an internal combustion engine the MotoGP factory bikes are about as close as anyone can get from the type of fuel they use.Not with a 6 engine limit they're not.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Don't the customer Honda's only have 22 litre tanks though?? Something about Honda saying anything more is ballast/waste/blah.

Yeah well their engines are certainly pretty frugal. Not sure the customer version will be as so if they're using valve springs etc...but yeah...22 may be all they need. But they may also not was their *customer* bikes to be seen to make as much or more HP than the factory proto no?

[Mental Trousers]

Not with a 6 engine limit they're not.

Internal combustion engines can't get anywhere near 100% efficiency. Most racing engines are somewhere over 50% efficient, but purpose built engines like MotoGP ones get higher than that.

[Mental Trousers]

Yeah well their engines are certainly pretty frugal. Not sure the customer version will be as so if they're using valve springs etc...but yeah...22 may be all they need. But they may also not was their *customer* bikes to be seen to make as much or more HP than the factory proto no?

Yep. But seeing as the customers buy the bike they can then make larger tanks themselves if they want to, not like the lease arrangements the satellite teams have.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep. But seeing as the customers buy the bike they can then make larger tanks themselves if they want to, not like the lease arrangements the satellite teams have.

Quite poss true unless Honda lean on them...which lets face it...they're no stranger to.

[trev]

My understanding is that for the first 2 years only HRC staff can work on the bikes (or maybe engines only) but that may extend to controlling major changes e.g. fitting larger fuel tanks

[Mental Trousers]

My understanding is that for the first 2 years only HRC staff can work on the bikes (or maybe engines only) but that may extend to controlling major changes e.g. fitting larger fuel tanks

Awesome. €1.2M and you're not even allowed to change the oil for 2 years.

[carbonhed]

Damn I'm looking forward to Tuesday and the start of testing!

[pritch]

Was reading somewhere the other day that Honda are charging only US$700,000 for the optional extra seamless gearbox.

Meanwhile the troops are all en route to Sepang by now.

[Mental Trousers]

Was reading somewhere the other day that Honda are charging only US$700,000 for the optional extra seamless gearbox.

Pretty sure that's lease only. So you keep the bike but give the gearbox back.

[trev]

FFS I see Yamaha are only providing 5 engines to the "open class" teams that buy an engine even though they are allowed 12.

[tail_end_charlie]

David Emmetts' (http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/03/2014_sepang_1_test_preview_honda_vs_yama.html) preview of the Sepang 1 test for 2014.

Bout fucking time we're getting back to bikes on track!!!!

[DidJit]

Aye. :scooter:

[husaberg]

Awesome. €1.2M and you're not even allowed to change the oil for 2 years.

For that money you shouldn't have to either........ kind of makes a mockery of getting rid of the 125 2 stokes based on the cost of the Aprilias doesn't it..........

[Badjelly]

David Emmetts' (http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/03/2014_sepang_1_test_preview_honda_vs_yama.html) preview of the Sepang 1 test for 2014.

A great article, as usual, from David.

One thing that's only just occurred to me is that the Yamaha's high-corner-speed style--as well as being the preference of the Yamaha engineers, of Jorge and of Valentino before him--is forced on them by the need to save fuel: you go as fast as possible thru the corners to minimise the fuel used in accelerating up to speed out of the corner. Why do they need to do it when Honda don't? Well, maybe Honda do have better engineers. But the Yamaha has an extra shaft to reverse the engine rotation direction, and this soaks up (to the best of my memory) 3-5% of the power. The Yamaha design was brilliantly successful when it was introduced in 2004, but right now with the fuel limits it's going up a blind alley.

[Mental Trousers]

For that money you shouldn't have to either........ kind of makes a mockery of getting rid of the 125 2 stokes based on the cost of the Aprilias doesn't it..........

At €1.2M you'd want the choice of who changes the oil to be yours.

The 125 class is meant to be low cost, leasing a bike for >$1M isn't low cost. The top class has always been much more expensive. Even if rules are put in place that make it cheaper MotoGP is always going to be at least 10x more expensive than Moto3.

[husaberg]

At €1.2M you'd want the choice of who changes the oil to be yours.

The 125 class is meant to be low cost, leasing a bike for >$1M isn't low cost. The top class has always been much more expensive. Even if rules are put in place that make it cheaper MotoGP is always going to be at least 10x more expensive than Moto3.


Nah......the 125's were never a million dollars, about 10 percent of that.
I was meaning that for 1.2 million i ain't paying anyone to change the oil the servicing should be free LOL
The cost of a service contract is believed to run in the low six figures, or pretty close to what it would have cost to lease a top-spec Aprilia RSA at the end of the two-stroke 125cc period. As happens all too often, imposing cost-cutting regulations has merely created even more expensive loopholes.http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/motogp-private-tests-banned-moto3-engine-costs-curbed/
from memory people baulked at the 200K for a NSR500 for a year in the 90's

[Mental Trousers]

Nah......the 125's were never a million dollars, about 10 percent of that.
I was meaning that for 1.2 million i ain't paying anyone to change the oil the servicing should be free LOLhttp://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/motogp-private-tests-banned-moto3-engine-costs-curbed/

Getting the 125GP and 250GP costs mixed up I think.

Servicing should definitely be free at that price. As it is Honda get to dictate alsorts for those RCV1000's. For instance, if Nicky Hayden were to finish in front of all of the satellite bikes he might find his engine is a bit less responsive next time out and there's nothing him or his team could do about it except complain loudly.

[Shaun Harris]

Getting the 125GP and 250GP costs mixed up I think.

Servicing should definitely be free at that price. As it is Honda get to dictate alsorts for those RCV1000's. For instance, if Nicky Hayden were to finish in front of all of the satellite bikes he might find his engine is a bit less responsive next time out and there's nothing him or his team could do about it except complain loudly.















ummmm, they did sign a contract knowing this

[husaberg]

Getting the 125GP and 250GP costs mixed up I think.

Servicing should definitely be free at that price. As it is Honda get to dictate alsorts for those RCV1000's. For instance, if Nicky Hayden were to finish in front of all of the satellite bikes he might find his engine is a bit less responsive next time out and there's nothing him or his team could do about it except complain loudly.

buried in the article was something about how the engines for M3 were went to be sold to the dorna and then distributed randomly to stop that stuff happening in M3 but then again with Honda electronics they can probably use the "death switch" remotely anyway, Now that would bring a new twist to team orders.


The GPC have now found a set of rules which they believe will rein in the most blatant abuse of the service contract system. Instead of the manufacturers supplying engines to the teams directly under a service contract agreement (which often meant that the teams would have to hand the engines back at the end of the year), the manufacturers will have to supply the engines to Dorna, who will distribute them on a random basis to the teams using that engine. The arrangement will see teams end up with 6 engines which they own at the end of the year, for a price of 68,000 euros.

[Mental Trousers]

ummmm, they did sign a contract knowing this

Yup they did. Just seems like a weird situation to be in where you buy and own something but don't have any say in things for 2 years. Leasing you can understand as the manufacturer gets the gear back at the end of the agreement, but the buyer owns those RCV1000's right from the start.

[Shaun Harris]

Yup they did. Just seems like a weird situation to be in where you buy and own something but don't have any say in things for 2 years. Leasing you can understand as the manufacturer gets the gear back at the end of the agreement, but the buyer owns those RCV1000's right from the start.






Both options gaurantee no one gets inside the motors to explore the design theory behind them. See todats testing is going well

[tbs]

Two hours into the first test of the year. Rossi tops the timesheets.... Pretty good effort so far, but sitting at number 5 behind the usual suspects, and less than a second down is Aleix on the lease Yami.

It's going to be an interesting season!

[Shaun Harris]

new year
new crew chief
new tactics

the first crash will show if he really wants it not, in terms of how he reacts to it.

I believe that Rossi and Jerry had become professional fault finders rather than professional racers together- ok they failed at Ducati haha

somet imes those square wheels just need riding

[carbonhed]

Those Espargaro brothers are quick! All the Ducatis within 0.25... maybe they should go open?

Pos Rider Team Fastest lap
1 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 2:00.76
2 LORENZO, Jorge Yamaha Factory Racing 2:01.082
3 ROSSI, Valentino Yamaha Factory Racing 2:01.121
4 BRADL, Stefan LCR Honda MotoGP 2:01.320
5 BAUTISTA, Alvaro GO&FUN Honda Gresini 2:01.390
6 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 2:01.407
7 ESPARGARO, Aleix NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2:01.419
8 SMITH, Bradley Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.939
9 ESPARGARO, Pol Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:02.012
10 IANNONE, Andrea Pramac Racing 2:02.697
11 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 2:02.744
12 CRUTCHLOW, Cal Ducati Team 2:02.860
13 HERNANDEZ, Yonny Energy T.I. Pramac Racing 2:02.891
14 PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team 2:02.925
15 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Test Team 2:03.126
16 AOYAMA, Hiroshi Drive M7 Aspar 2:03.770
17 HAYDEN, Nicky Drive M7 Aspar 2:03.853
18 AKIYOSHI, Kosuke HRC Test Team 2:04.267
19 EDWARDS, Colin NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2:04.361
20 DE PUNIET, Randy Suzuki Test Team 2:04.596
21 REDDING, Scott GO&FUN Honda Gresini 2:05.022
22 DI MEGLIO, Mike Avintia Racing 2:06.085
23 BARBERA, Hector Avintia Racing 2:06.234
24 PARKES, Broc Paul Bird Motorport 2:06.474
25 ABRAHAM, Karel Cardion AB Motoracing 2:06.755
26 LAVERTY, Michael Paul Bird Motorsport 2:08.290

[Reckless]

Those Espargaro brothers are quick! All the Ducatis within 0.25... maybe they should go open?

Pos Rider Team Fastest lap
1 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 2:00.76
2 LORENZO, Jorge Yamaha Factory Racing 2:01.082
3 ROSSI, Valentino Yamaha Factory Racing 2:01.121
4 BRADL, Stefan LCR Honda MotoGP 2:01.320
5 BAUTISTA, Alvaro GO&FUN Honda Gresini 2:01.390
6 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 2:01.407
7 ESPARGARO, Aleix NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2:01.419
8 SMITH, Bradley Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.939
9 ESPARGARO, Pol Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:02.012
10 IANNONE, Andrea Pramac Racing 2:02.697
11 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 2:02.744
12 CRUTCHLOW, Cal Ducati Team 2:02.860
13 HERNANDEZ, Yonny Energy T.I. Pramac Racing 2:02.891
14 PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team 2:02.925
15 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Test Team 2:03.126
16 AOYAMA, Hiroshi Drive M7 Aspar 2:03.770
17 HAYDEN, Nicky Drive M7 Aspar 2:03.853
18 AKIYOSHI, Kosuke HRC Test Team 2:04.267
19 EDWARDS, Colin NGM Mobile Forward Racing 2:04.361
20 DE PUNIET, Randy Suzuki Test Team 2:04.596
21 REDDING, Scott GO&FUN Honda Gresini 2:05.022
22 DI MEGLIO, Mike Avintia Racing 2:06.085
23 BARBERA, Hector Avintia Racing 2:06.234
24 PARKES, Broc Paul Bird Motorport 2:06.474
25 ABRAHAM, Karel Cardion AB Motoracing 2:06.755
26 LAVERTY, Michael Paul Bird Motorsport 2:08.290


Early days yet but from my poor memory banks wasn't Rossi usually up there the first days of testing at most tracks then as the hammer was put down by the top 3 he drifted back. Can't keep thinking of that article (was on here I think?) about getting older and the involuntarily fears/Caution etc that come with it?

There's a lot of 2:01's in there. The top guys will get faster there's got to be a lot more gap to come between them and the newbies.

Jeepers If you stick Suzuki in there next year the Ducs wouldn't be in the top 10. I don't think??
I really hope they can get on top of it this season. Going open will be seen as a failure I reckon???

[husaberg]

Early days yet but from my poor memory banks wasn't Rossi usually up there the first days of testing at most tracks then as the hammer was put down by the top 3 he drifted back. Can't keep thinking of that article (was on here I think?) about getting older and the involuntarily fears/Caution etc that come with it?



Kenny Roberts had a theory that a top rider no mater when he starts is only able to do about ten years at the top....there are exceptions but Rossi i don't think needs to stick his neck out. I guess Wayne Rainey didn't either nor did Doohan......
Rossi having been 125 250 500 and MotoGP champion has little to gain and all to lose...
I watched the laudia vs James Hunt movie the other day Nicky mentioned it too.........
i wonder how many contemporaries Rossi has seen die or get banged up..........

[tail_end_charlie]

Interesting side note, I see that Cal is wearing AlpineStars leathers this year............wonder if that's due to the crash performance of his Spidi leathers last year????

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[DidJit]

David Emmett’s round up (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/04/2014_motogp_sepang_1_day_1_round_up_a_fa.html) of Testing’s Day 1...

[roogazza]

Early days yet but from my poor memory banks wasn't Rossi usually up there the first days of testing at most tracks then as the hammer was put down by the top 3 he drifted back. Can't keep thinking of that article (was on here I think?) about getting older and the involuntarily fears/Caution etc that come with it?

There's a lot of 2:01's in there. The top guys will get faster there's got to be a lot more gap to come between them and the newbies.

Jeepers If you stick Suzuki in there next year the Ducs wouldn't be in the top 10. I don't think??
I really hope they can get on top of it this season. Going open will be seen as a failure I reckon???

Thanks to Carbonhed for posting that list up.
It looks a pretty healthy grid of 26 , can't wait for the serious stuff to start.
Jeeesus it's Feb already, won't be long. C'mon Rossi......

[Shaun Harris]

Production Honda,s are bloody slow! I know Honda reported the CS was doing very simillar times in testing on them, but I have to wonder what spec the motor was in that bike based on yesterdays lap times by very compitent riders. I think a few riders and teams are going rather pissed with this, and the Privateer yamaha just smokes them

And the Suzuki, man lap times yesterday were crap, but that may be due to now using the same electronics as the top factory teams, and needing to re set the bike up to suit

[DidJit]

Updated times (http://www.motogp.com/en/TestResults/MotoGP+Sepang+Test+2014) from the end of Day 1...

[Shaun Harris]

fukin boo hoo for Honda

Quote from Motomatters

So it could turn out to be a long year at Honda. While their factory MotoGP team will continue to rip up the field, the RCV1000R looks like it really needs more horsepower. Honda's aim was to be the Aprilia ARTs, but without them here, there is no comparison material. When you compare the Honda to Yamaha's offering, the Honda looks positively tepid. Asked if he felt Yamaha had violated the spirit of the rules, HRC Vice President Shuhei Nakamoto looked annoyed, and told the reporter asking the question to go ask Yamaha about it. Nakamoto's face made it clear he was not happy with the situation, a sentiment shared by the teams who signed up for the RCV1000R.

[Kiwi Graham]

fukin boo hoo for Honda

And Whoo hoo for Yamaha

[ecko_nzed]

So..... Marquez for back to back titles, barring injury?

[Shaun Harris]

So..... Marquez for back to back titles, barring injury?




My guesstimation

Lorenzo
Rossi
Marquez------- Due to DNS
Pedi

[Badjelly]

...Asked if he felt Yamaha had violated the spirit of the rules, HRC Vice President Shuhei Nakamoto looked annoyed....

What's the spirit of the Open rules? For Honda it is to put some more bikes on the grid that won't threaten their factory team. For Yamaha it is to do the same, but have their bikes beat Honda. For Dorna it is to develop a class that will replace the Factory class with their stupid Honda-inspired fuel limits and ridiculously expensive electronics, thereby breaking Honda's stranglehold.

Methinks Honda will be beaten on this one. But Honda is pretty damn good at making sure the championship is run for their benefit.

[Shaun Harris]

What's the spirit of the Open rules? For Honda it is to put some more bikes on the grid that won't threaten their factory team. For Yamaha it is to do the same, but have their bikes beat Honda. For Dorna it is to develop a class that will replace the Factory class with their stupid Honda-inspired fuel limits and ridiculously expensive electronics, thereby breaking Honda's stranglehold.

Methinks Honda will be beaten on this one. But Honda is pretty damn good at making sure the championship is run for their benefit.









haha hope you are right mate

[DidJit]

What's the spirit of the Open rules? For Honda it is to put some more bikes on the grid that won't threaten their factory team. For Yamaha it is to do the same, but have their bikes beat Honda. For Dorna it is to develop a class that will replace the Factory class with their stupid Honda-inspired fuel limits and ridiculously expensive electronics, thereby breaking Honda's stranglehold.

Methinks Honda will be beaten on this one. But Honda is pretty damn good at making sure the championship is run for their benefit.

Excellent summation! :niceone:

[Crasherfromwayback]

So..... Marquez for back to back titles, barring injury?

MM

Lorenzo

Pedro

Bautista

Rossi

[pritch]

Thanks to Carbonhed for posting that list up.
It looks a pretty healthy grid of 26 , can't wait for the serious stuff to start.
Jeeesus it's Feb already, won't be long. C'mon Rossi......

Don't get too excited by the 26, some of those are test riders and, barring injuries, they won't be on the grid.

As for Rossi being fast early then getting left behind, those times are pretty quick.

Anyhow with Jorge struggling, the Honda open bike being a dog, the Yamaha open bike being quick, and the performances of the Espagaro brothers, there's plenty to hold our interest.

[DidJit]

MM, Lorenzo, Pedro, Bautista, Rossi

So, is that “Crasher fide” and worth a punt at the TAB? :D


... there's plenty to hold our interest.

Too right. :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

So, is that “Crasher fide” and worth a punt at the TAB? :D

:

Lol. I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it mate. That old dog Rossi could upset the apple cart.

[merv]

Yeah and interesting so far while MM is quick and there's been two years development since, MM still hasn't beaten crasher's boyfriend's time from 2012 yet - still got 3 10ths to knock off and then some to make it right for 2014.

Aleix is going well so far isn't he.

Hayden did improve a bit and I can't see Honda not getting the bike up to speed more, but then what if MM had gotten on it, what time would it have done? One issue I am sure is Hayden and Co just aren't in the same league as the fast boys any more.

[carbonhed]

Standouts for me (apart from MM) Aleix Espargaro, "Crazy Joe" Iannone, and Smith.

Espargaro screams out for a good ride. Hopefully Iannone can stay injury free this year. Smith is right there with the factory Yamahas so far and just seems calm, methodical and quick.

Day 2 Sepang (http://www.motogp.com/en/TestResults/MotoGP+Sepang+Test+2014)

[Shaun Harris]

Standouts for me (apart from MM) Aleix Espargaro, "Crazy Joe" Iannone, and Smith.

Espargaro screams out for a good ride. Hopefully Iannone can stay injury free this year. Smith is right there with the factory Yamahas so far and just seems calm, methodical and quick.

Day 2 Sepang (http://www.motogp.com/en/TestResults/MotoGP+Sepang+Test+2014)



Iannone for sure mate, he is rockin. As far as Smith goes, he is doing what I expected of him, he has more talent than lots of people have recognised, apart from his team owner and yamaha of course

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hayden did improve a bit and I can't see Honda not getting the bike up to speed more, but then what if MM had gotten on it, what time would it have done? One issue I am sure is Hayden and Co just aren't in the same league as the fast boys any more.

Yeah be interesting to know what sort of testing times Stoner's done on the production version vs Hayden if they get to use the same track at some stage. I still rate Hayden.

[roogazza]

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/05/2014_motogp_sepang_1_day_2_round_up_fuel.html

[ecko_nzed]

Standouts for me (apart from MM) Aleix Espargaro, "Crazy Joe" Iannone, and Smith.

Espargaro screams out for a good ride. Hopefully Iannone can stay injury free this year. Smith is right there with the factory Yamahas so far and just seems calm, methodical and quick.

Day 2 Sepang (http://www.motogp.com/en/TestResults/MotoGP+Sepang+Test+2014)

Agreed, but think Pol should be added to list. Not that far behind Smith and consistent too. Not bad for a rookie

[Crasherfromwayback]

Agreed, but think Pol should be added to list. Not that far behind Smith and consistent too. Not bad for a rookie

How you feeling about our wee bet?

[carbonhed]

Agreed, but think Pol should be added to list. Not that far behind Smith and consistent too. Not bad for a rookie

True. Watching the interview with him today he didn't seem his usual chipper self... I think the range of adjustability, particularly the electronics, was proving to be a bit of a mindfuck :yes:

[ecko_nzed]

How you feeling about our wee bet?

Like I'll be keeping an eye on the specials at the bottle store. Or praying for lots of rain

[carbonhed]

And Lorenzo comes out and does 1:59:8... cock :lol:

ETA... on his second lap.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Like I'll be keeping an eye on the specials at the bottle store. Or praying for lots of rain

Lol. Looks like the more things change at Ducati the more they stay the same eh!

[Crasherfromwayback]

And Lorenzo comes out and does 1:59:8... cock :lol:

Fucking machine ain't he!

[merv]

And Lorenzo comes out and does 1:59:8... cock :lol:

ETA... on his second lap.

No worries, now MM has gone under Casey's time from 2012.

Dovi is getting closer too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

No worries, now MM has gone under Casey's time from 2012.

.

I find myself wondering just how fast that freak is gonna get!

[merv]

I find myself wondering just how fast that freak is gonna get!

I'm guessing as fast as he needs to. If George posts a quick time he'll just go quicker it seems, but interesting Rossi is doing the same, just can't beat MM yet.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm guessing as fast as he needs to. If George posts a quick time he'll just go quicker it seems, but interesting Rossi is doing the same, just can't beat MM yet.

I'll be the first one to admit that I thought Rossi ditching Burgess was stoopid. Could be well wrong. Hardly the first time!

[carbonhed]

What about Aleix Espargaro????????? 1.59.9!!!!!! He's making Edwards look like a total muppet.

[merv]

What about Aleix Espargaro????????? 1.59.9!!!!!! He's making Edwards look like a total muppet.

Or just an old bloke.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What about Aleix Espargaro????????? 1.59.9!!!!!! He's making Edwards look like a total muppet.

Fucking impressive stuff eh!

[pritch]

What about Aleix Espargaro????????? 1.59.9!!!!!! He's making Edwards look like a total muppet.

Edwards has a different frame, unsurprisingly he wants one like Espagaro.

It isn't only Edwards he's making look bad. Last time I looked he was faster than the satellite bikes, and he hasn't got the whoopydo gear box either.

[carbonhed]

Edwards has a different frame, unsurprisingly he wants one like Espagaro.

It isn't only Edwards he's making look bad. Last time I looked he was faster than the satellite bikes, and he hasn't got the whoopydo gear box either.

Wasn't aware of that... how strange. Thought Pol was the faster brother. May have to revise that impression!

[pritch]

Wasn't aware of that... how strange. Thought Pol was the faster brother. May have to revise that impression!

It's testing, all sorts of combinations are tried. Some work, some don't. Espagaro has the English built frame (FTR?).

Rossi has reported chatter problems with the new Bridgestones, can't be too bad though, he's quick. He is hopeful that the problem will have been fixed before Bridgstone finally formulate the GP tyre. Good luck with that...

Rossi commented on Aleix's efforts. Basically he said AE hasn't won *that* much in his career, but he is definitely quick now.

My take is that AE is so quick that I wonder if he suddenly finds his bike doesn't go quite so well, and that the satellite Yamaha bikes are faster?
Or maybe it's just that I'm getting cynical in my old age.

[300weatherby]

Don't get too excited, what you see today, aint what you are gonna get next month, lots of work for them all to do yet.

1-Lorenzo
2-MM
3-Ped
4-Bau

[carbonhed]

My take is that AE is so quick that I wonder if he suddenly finds his bike doesn't go quite so well, and that the satellite Yamaha bikes are faster?
Or maybe it's just that I'm getting cynical in my old age.

That's so cynical it took me ages to work out :laugh:

Won't be a problem for Nicky!

[roogazza]

Don't get too excited, what you see today, aint what you are gonna get next month, lots of work for them all to do yet.

1-Lorenzo
2-MM
3-Ped
4-Bau

Too true, thats why I'm not going to try guessing a champ.
Is Bautista on a works Honda ? cos I see a couple of people favour him on this thread ?

[Drew]

Too true, thats why I'm not going to try guessing a champ.
Is Bautista on a works Honda ? cos I see a couple of people favour him on this thread ?

He's on a factory satellite. So seamless boxed full power motor, but Showa suspension and Nissin brakes...which I bet sluts him off no fucken end.