MotoGP 2015

[Erelyes]

I dunno if I would call Nicky Hayden an 'era'.

216 starts and 3 wins. It's a fucking miracle he was ever world champ


If you can. Watch this. then think about those last laps.

Repost dude

Wow... that was a tense last few laps. Observations

- MM 'might' have helped JL. Is anyone in doubt that Petrucci helped VR? Let's not hold double standards.
- I didn't like DP much before the second half of this season, but his performance of late has been fantastic, and he's a real gent.
- Even though VR made it to 4th, he was still slower than the top 3. Conservative? Or just not quick enough?
- Next season is gonna be freaking interesting.
- JL might have beaten VR, but at the end of the day, VR has noone to blame but himself. He simply wasn't fast enough, and JL was not only blisteringly fast but consistent. 7 wins, 12 podiums, don't lie.

I wanted to see VR win. But I wanted to see him do it by being fast, and it didn't happen.

DP for champ next year!!!!

[BMWST?]

I hope someone lays a complain against MM for match fixing. I'm sure the pace at the front was near 100% but for MM to not even show JL a wheel then to put the hard moves on DP when he got close makes it pretty hard to argue MM wasn't JLs wingman in that race.
another dreamer,read post 4000

[pritch]

Pedrosa used to come across as a surly little twat. Suddenly he's a shining example to everybody else as to how to conduct yourself. I hope next year he can do better than his normal couple of wins.

[bogan]

I'm just dissapointed VR never caught up to MM. Bet there would have been some wheels shown then :eek:

Fuck the conspiracy theories, flag to flag sorts em out. Rossi got what he deserved, so did Lorenzo, and MM. Since those fuckwits show Danni in a good light, I just hope next year he deserves the title.

[carbonhed]

Actually, as I recall the first manhug was for Alex Briggs who grabbed his bike. But then you definitely seem to have a penchant for seeing what you want to see.

Yeah. I saw Jorge Lorenzo win the championship.

I saw Rossi disgrace his legacy and the sport.

I saw the fanboi zombie horde with their faces still firmly wedged between his buttcheeks.

And that's as good as it will get for you. Rossi will continue to dwindle and whine until he sputters out. Give his ride to Vinales now.

[Berries]

And that's as good as it will get for you. Rossi will continue to dwindle and whine until he sputters out. Give his ride to Vinales now.
Classic. Rossi was leading the championship until the end and yet if he started with the others he would have "contrived" to have been there at the end and now you are banging on about him giving his ride to someone else. Let it go. You are coming across as a bigger douchebag one-eyed twat than any of the riders.

[Reckless]

Marquez suddenly found the wherewithal to pounce back on Pedrosa when he went past, then catch right back up to Lorenzo, yet never troubled Lorenzo once. It was all a bit blatant.


JL ran a great race but MM didn't even look like he was thinking about passing JL. Yeah if MM got past JL would still win but that would leave JL open for an attack by DP, who had much more speed than the front two in the closing laps.

Thats how we saw it before about 30 mins ago when we watched it, before I even read a word on here.
I reckon MM could have passed JL a few laps earlier, which means the fight between them or Dani's faster pace could well have put Lorenzo 3rd?
But with MM riding shot gun then fending of his team mate with more aggression than on anyone the whole race, it was over.
Rossi was going fast enough before he realised he'd never catch the 11 seconds, but Lorenzos tyres faded as they have often done in the last laps and MM rode shotgun for him.

No doubt Carbonhead will have lots to say about the above but I'm calling it as saw it.

The rider of the race for me wasnt Rossi making passes on slower bikes but DP charging at the end.

[Autech]

Haha. Everyone is jumping on the DP band wagon :D


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[Drew]

Haha. Everyone is jumping on the DP band wagon :D


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I'm not sure why he is being called a surly twat. He's not flamboyant at all, but he's always been professional and gracious.

I have been a fan for a long time, always wanted him to get a title.

[5150]

An interesting article in MCN written by Michael Scott. Basically his take on the whole sorry saga of the Moto Gp. There is one thing that I definately agree with him, and that is all summerised in the first sentence... Enjoy




What a mess. What a shambles. What a shame. The problem is this: one man has – through charm, astuteness and brilliant talent – become bigger than the sport.

And that man has stopped playing Mr Nice Guy.

worldwide army of fans that must number several million hang on his every word and support him blindly. Right or wrong.

As a result, two fine and worthy new world champions have been shoved out of the limelight and into the shadows.

I believe the following:

That Jorge Lorenzo won a well-deserved championship, and was the best MotoGP rider of the year.

That Danny Kent, the first British champion since Barry Sheene in 1977, did the same, by the skin of his teeth, and has earned the right to be acclaimed and respected, not pushed aside by someone else’s controversy.

Everyone else, or at least the most vocal majority, believe something different: that Valentino Rossi was unfairly robbed by a vengeful cheating Marquez.

The dirt rubs off on Honda, who have supported Marquez both vocally and in writing. Rather foolishly, it seems: they’d have done better to keep it zipped.

According to Rossi, the trouble started at the Australian GP when Marquez rode to baulk him, to stop him catching Lorenzo. Since Marquez then went on to defeat Lorenzo, costing him five points, this is scarcely plausible. Unless you are a Rossi fan wearing blinkers.

According to Marquez, it started at the next race, where Rossi’s Thursday press conference attack was deeply insulting. The Spanish, don’t forget, are a proud people. They are at least as good at vendettas as the Italians. This triggered his own blatant blocking at Sepang, in turn leading to the collision, his crash, Rossi’s back-of-the-grid penalty.

According to me, this is the likeliest explanation. Marquez shouldn’t have blocked him at Sepang but, let’s face it, Rossi had asked for it. Marquez has never been a pushover.

Two weeks, a social media storm and a 750,000 strong pro-Rossi petition later, it was impossible that the Valencia showdown would proceed without passions peaking, conspiracy theories abounding, and trouble in store.

Cravenly Dorna tried to put a lid on it, canning the pre-race conference as if this would make all the questions go away. Yamaha likewise cancelled their major Saturday night all-star gala dinner, for which guests had flown in from all over the world. It was to have been a highlight of their 60th anniversary celebrations.

The Permanent Bureau (FIM and Dorna) issued mealie-mouthed statements about “the nobility of our sport”.

Then the race.

As we know, Lorenzo led from start to finish. This is exactly how he has won every one of his seven this year. All normal.

Marquez dogged him closely, but never did try to pass. He planned for the last lap, he said. That was thwarted when team-mate Pedrosa passed him briefly on the last lap, giving Lorenzo a bit of breathing space.

Rossi meantime rode through from the back of the grid like the MotoGP master he has always been, but could never have hoped for better than fourth. Possibly not even if he had started from the first or second row.

So Jorge was champ.

And then it kicked off.

Rossi was unequivocal. Marquez had played the role, he said, of “bodyguard” to Lorenzo. Why did he not even try to overtake him once during the first 29 laps? How was Pedrosa able to close a gap of two seconds at the end?

Marquez had an answer. Lorenzo was basically faster: he was saving his attack for the 30th lap. Valencia is a nasty little one-line circuit, narrow, with few overtaking spots. He would exploit this: if he could get ahead he could stay there over the line. But try as he might (and he looked to me as though he was), he wasn’t close enough.

You have to ask yourself one question. Can you see the ultra-competitive Marquez deliberately throwing a race?

Whichever way you answer, it’s unprovable.

If it was a crime, then it was the perfect crime.

If not, then Rossi is well out of order, and is exploiting his vast popularity to the discredit not only of Marquez but of the series in general.

Because he is bigger than that series.

If things look bad now, just imagine the effect when he does eventually retire.

[Reckless]

Haha. Everyone is jumping on the DP band wagon :D


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If that was aimed at me? If you troll back over my posts you'll find I've only ever supported two riders Rossi and Pedro :niceone:
Secondly Pedro has shown himself to be the best sportsman out there (incl Rossi) so it was bound to happen.
Never liked MM since his tactics in moto2 and Lozenge well I reckon he's going to be rated the most unpopular champion thanks to his mate MM and the way he's conveyed himself over the last few weeks.
Last year I was behind Pedro this year Rossi, next year i'll either watch superbike or get behind Pedro I reckon??
The rest of them have done the sport no good this year.

[jasonu]

The Yanks probably think the AMA Nats are the world championship.
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Don't be a dick.

[jasonu]

granted VR had probably burned up his tyres,but the front three were going faster than him .And that has been the story of the season.VR does not have the absolute speed of the other three .vr was about 12 seconds behind when he got to fourth,he was 19 seconds behind dani at the end.and those useless commentators didt once talk about the time gap from dani to vr,that was the important fact not the 5 bloody points

If VR had made an effort to catch DP maybe the commentators might have mentioned it. By the time he made it to 4th and realized there was 12 seconds to 3rd AND he knew his tires were not up to more thrashing, VR most likely settled for 4th, managed the gap to 5th and hoped like hell something in his favor might happen up front. There wasn't much else he could have done.

[jasonu]

Pedrosa used to come across as a surly little twat. Suddenly he's a shining example to everybody else as to how to conduct yourself. I hope next year he can do better than his normal couple of wins.

DP is prolly still a 'surly little twat' but since the other 3 have managed to make themselves look like total cunts... best of a bad bunch maybe?

[Autech]

If that was aimed at me? If you troll back over my posts you'll find I've only ever supported two riders Rossi and Pedro :niceone:
Secondly Pedro has shown himself to be the best sportsman out there (incl Rossi) so it was bound to happen.
Never liked MM since his tactics in moto2 and Lozenge well I reckon he's going to be rated the most unpopular champion thanks to his mate MM and the way he's conveyed himself over the last few weeks.
Last year I was behind Pedro this year Rossi, next year i'll either watch superbike or get behind Pedro I reckon??
The rest of them have done the sport no good this year.

Aimed at no one in particular mate. Just I have been flying his flag loudly in this thread for many years n usually get hammered by the haters. Not used to seeing so much praise for my fav rider.

Pedrosa champion 2016! Provided he doesnt injure himself again that is :facepalm:


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[Shaun Harris]

Aimed at no one in particular mate. Just I have been flying his flag loudly in this thread for many years n usually get hammered by the haters. Not used to seeing so much praise for my fav rider.

Pedrosa champion 2016! Provided he doesnt injure himself again that is :facepalm:


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What, so he wins 3 races and wins the championship by luck, like N Hayden did way back when

[Drew]

What, so he wins 3 races and wins the championship by luck, like N Hayden did way back when

He's better than Hayden by a very long shot.

[pritch]

DP is prolly still a 'surly little twat' but since the other 3 have managed to make themselves look like total cunts... best of a bad bunch maybe?

In recent years he has mellowed. Reportedy he still doesn't really like doing interviews but at least tries to cooperate and shows evidence of a sense of humour. If I "jumped on the bandwagon" it was during the press conference following Sepang where he spoke with humility and made a lot of sense. Unlike the particularly petulant Lorenzo. Pedro is fit, his arm pump is cured, I'd like to see him compete next year, although, barring accidents, I don't see him as a champion. If he proves me wrong I'll be pleased about that.

Prior to the advent of the Internet I had no concept of just how widely differing people's points of view can be. OK, so nearly a coupla decades later I'm getting the idea. This latest saga has underlined the fact that there are fans, and there are fanatics, and there's a difference. Fortunately, and possibly somewhat surprisingly, we were spared the latter on KB.

[FROSTY]

You know what guys I would hate to be a Moto GP rider. Where very word,every gesture OFF the track is taken as some massive character flaw.
Those poor bastards having just ridden their bikes as hard as they are humanly capable of doing. Then they roll off the track and have microphones, cameras and cellphones shoved in their faces.
An offhand comment gets twisted to suit.
So you know what? I have IMMENSE respect of Rossi,MM,DP Lorenzo and all the other guys at that level.
Guess what they are fucken human beings.They make mistakes.

[Autech]

You know what guys I would hate to be a Moto GP rider. Where very word,every gesture OFF the track is taken as some massive character flaw.
Those poor bastards having just ridden their bikes as hard as they are humanly capable of doing. Then they roll off the track and have microphones, cameras and cellphones shoved in their faces.
An offhand comment gets twisted to suit.
So you know what? I have IMMENSE respect of Rossi,MM,DP Lorenzo and all the other guys at that level.
Guess what they are fucken human beings.They make mistakes.

Hear hear except for the hate to be comment. Guess that is the price for being at the top!
Ditch the microphones I say, its racing not a fucking soap opera.


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[Oscar]

What, so he wins 3 races and wins the championship by luck, like N Hayden did way back when

Huh?

He's won two World titles, 51 Grand Prix wins and gets on the podium in 58% of his races (60% for MotoGP) and never placed lower than 5th in the MotoGP standings.

He's had a bunch of bad luck/bad management, but he's still capable of a title.

[Autech]

Huh?

He's won two World titles, 51 Grand Prix wins and gets on the podium in 58% of his races (60% for MotoGP) and never placed lower than 5th in the MotoGP standings.

He's had a bunch of bad luck/bad management, but he's still capable of a title.

3 titles :)


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[Shaun Harris]

Huh?

He's won two World titles, 51 Grand Prix wins and gets on the podium in 58% of his races (60% for MotoGP) and never placed lower than 5th in the MotoGP standings.

He's had a bunch of bad luck/bad management, but he's still capable of a title.




My reference was towards N Heydan results Oscar. And I disagree re Dani.

[Tazz]

You know what guys I would hate to be a Moto GP rider. Where very word,every gesture OFF the track is taken as some massive character flaw.
Those poor bastards having just ridden their bikes as hard as they are humanly capable of doing. Then they roll off the track and have microphones, cameras and cellphones shoved in their faces.
An offhand comment gets twisted to suit.
So you know what? I have IMMENSE respect of Rossi,MM,DP Lorenzo and all the other guys at that level.
Guess what they are fucken human beings.They make mistakes.

Most of them probably have the right level of ego to handle it:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/225029/1/lorenzo-i-was-better-than-rossi-in-everything.html

[Oscar]

My reference was towards N Heydan results Oscar. And I disagree re Dani.

Hayden may have been lucky, but he still had to get those points.

[Tazz]

What, so he wins 3 races and wins the championship by luck, like N Hayden did way back when

Luck? Hardly. Things panned out the way they did and he came out on top of the heap. If things went perfectly for everyone every season there'd be a fair few 1st equals.

Hayden got taken out by his team mate in the second to last race which almost cost him anyway. Not all that lucky :bleh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hayden may have been lucky, but he still had to get those points.

Yep. Something Rossi was unable to do then, or this year. :bleh:

[Shaun Harris]

Luck? Hardly. Things panned out the way they did and he came out on top of the heap. If things went perfectly for everyone every season there'd be a fair few 1st equals.

Hayden got taken out by his team mate in the second to last race which almost cost him anyway. Not all that lucky :bleh:


who was it that took Heydan out? was it that other world champion to be??

[Oscar]

Yep. Something Rossi was unable to do then, or this year. :bleh:

I'm sure he's gutted.

He'll just have to find solace in his in 112 GP wins, nine titles and the fact that he's richer and more popular that MM, JL and you will ever be...:shake:

[Autech]

who was it that took Heydan out? was it that other world champion to be??

Former world champion and future motogp champion. And yes when his feces leave his anus, it does smell in a floral manner.

[Tazz]

who was it that took Heydan out? was it that other world champion to be??

I can't find my tinfoil hat to comprehend what you're driving at here :laugh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm sure he's gutted.

He'll just have to find solace in his in 112 GP wins, nine titles and the fact that he's richer and more popular that MM, JL and you will ever be...:shake:

For sure no one can take that away from the man. But you know what Oscar? I'm happier with who I am as a person. :msn-wink:

[Oscar]

I'm happier with who I am as a person. :msn-wink:

Sure you are....

[jasonu]

What, so he wins 3 races and wins the championship by luck, like N Hayden did way back when

I remember when people were saying Kevin Schwantz was lucky to win his title because Wayne Rainey got injured. Wayne Rainey was quoted as saying something like 'not true, a title cannot be won by good luck alone.'

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sure you are....

You unhappy with your lot Oscar?

Only thing I'd like of Rossi's world is his money. But it's obviously true that money can't buy you happiness, because look at the snivelling pussy!

[Oscar]

You unhappy with your lot Oscar?

Only thing I'd like of Rossi's world is his money. But it's obviously true that money can't buy you happiness, because look at the snivelling pussy!

Not at all.
But you seem to spend an awful lot of time worrying about Vale, so I did wonder about you.
I mean you even managed to insert him into a discussion about Nicky Hayden.

Perhaps you have a problem...

[Drew]

You unhappy with your lot Oscar?

Only thing I'd like of Rossi's world is his money. But it's obviously true that money can't buy you happiness, because look at the snivelling pussy!
That might a touch overboard. We've all had a shit time at work before. Gone home in a filthy mood like.

What's the difference?

[onearmedbandit]

That might a touch overboard. We've all had a shit time at work before. Gone home in a filthy mood like.

What's the difference?

The difference is Pete just likes trying to get Rossi fans to bite. It's his thing haha.


I don't know Rossi personally, nor Pete, so I couldn't tell you who really is the happiest in their life.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I mean you even managed to insert him into a discussion about Nicky Hayden.

Perhaps you have a problem...

It's called a piss take. But on a serious note, can you imagine anything worse than not being able to simply walk down the street without being accosted my hundreds of people? Your every single move watched and commented on?

[Oscar]

The difference is Pete just likes trying to get Rossi fans to bite. It's his thing haha.


I don't know Rossi personally, nor Pete, so I couldn't tell you who really is the happiest in their life.

I'm sure Vale doesn't spend much time on the internet whinging about Pete...

[Oscar]

It's called a piss take. But on a serious note, can you imagine anything worse than not being able to simply walk down the street without being accosted my hundreds of people? Your every single move watched and commented on?

So was mine.

He should move to NZ.
The general public know fuck all about decent sports.

[Drew]

Imagine how hard Casey Stoner is currently laughing his arse off.

[Oscar]

...........

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[onearmedbandit]

Imagine how hard Casey Stoner is currently laughing his arse off.

He'll be loving it haha.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The difference is Pete just likes trying to get Rossi fans to bite. It's his thing haha.


I don't know Rossi personally, nor Pete, so I couldn't tell you who really is the happiest in their life.

How dare you insinuate such things!

But regarding happiness...I'd seriously hate to be in Rossi's shoes. Imagine having your sexuality questioned as you're so watched, and are only ever seen with the same bloke 24/7!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm sure Vale doesn't spend much time on the internet whinging about Pete...

Too busy whinging about getting beaten fair and square eh.

[carbonhed]

You unhappy with your lot Oscar?

Only thing I'd like of Rossi's world is his money. But it's obviously true that money can't buy you happiness, because look at the snivelling pussy!

Ouch!

Lorenzo doing his bit to smooth over relations with the Rossi horde. :laugh:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/225029/1/lorenzo-i-was-better-than-rossi-in-everything.html

[nudemetalz]

Too busy whinging about getting beaten fair and square eh.

Ah well,..he gets to go to his Ranch and do some drifting on a YZ450F.....gotta be a good stress relief. :)

[Autech]

Ah well,..he gets to go to his Ranch and do some drifting on a YZ450F.....gotta be a good stress relief. :)

Yup meanwhile his fans only get to jump on the internet and fuel their rage more.

Dani Pedrosa's fans all seem to want him to move to Indonesia and marry them by the looks of his facebook page. Lovers, not haters :).

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ah well,..he gets to go to his Ranch and do some drifting on a YZ450F.....gotta be a good stress relief. :)

Yep. Nothing like a bit of dirt track at Rossi's ranch!

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[Badjelly]

I'm sure Vale doesn't spend much time on the internet whinging about Pete...

It was a piss-take, alright?! :D

[Crasherfromwayback]

It was a piss-take, alright?! :D

Exactly mate. He uses skype when he calls me to tell me his tales of woe.

[jasonu]

Exactly mate. He uses skype when he calls me to tell me his tales of woe.

With or without pants on???

[Crasherfromwayback]

With or without pants on???

Me or him?

[carbonhed]

No photoshop required. :laugh:

None of the other guys know where to look!

http://photos.motogp.com/2015/11/08/46-rossi_dscf1866.gallery_full_top_lg.jpg

[sugilite]

I wonder if Rossi will get a invite to the next one of MM's dirt track bonanza weekends? :lol:
For the record I reckon he did wing man Lorenzo - to my mind the only aggressive move he made the entire race was on his own team mate :tugger:

[onearmedbandit]

I wonder if Rossi will get a invite to the next one of MM's dirt track bonanza weekends? :lol:
For the record I reckon he did wing man Lorenzo - to my mind the only aggressive move he made the entire race was on his own team mate :tugger:

I'm guessing Marc won't be getting an invite to one of his either ha.

[Crasherfromwayback]

For the record I reckon he did wing man Lorenzo - to my mind the only aggressive move he made the entire race was on his own team mate :tugger:

That's only because you're letting your love of Rossi and your dislike of MM cloud your judgement mate. You as a racer should know only too well MM would've loved to have won that race at home in front of his fans. It would've made no diff to the outcome of the championship.

[sugilite]

That's only because you're letting your love of Rossi and your dislike of MM cloud your judgement mate. You as a racer should know only too well MM would've loved to have won that race at home in front of his fans. It would've made no diff to the outcome of the championship.
Na mate, I'm not a Rossi lover or a MM hater. What I saw was MM being faster through certain corners, particularly one of the right hand ones, cannot tell you which one. He was right up Lorenzos date on a couple of occasions for that corner, but nadda. I know it may seem like a odd thought, but I reckon his hatred for Rossi overrode his desire to win, but not the desire to give up 2nd place to Pedro as even if Pedro had got in fron't of MM the title was still Lorenzos. For the record I think the fastest rider won the championship. I also feel that rider is a arsehole, should of let his riding do the talking instead of constantly whining like a little bitch (Rossi too) and then beating his chest like a He Man today. Meh....
The only rider to come out of this debacle with any kudos is Pedro.

[Oscar]

No photoshop required. :laugh:

None of the other guys know where to look!



A guy hugs his oldest mate during a stressful time?
I had no idea I had stumbled into www.emotionally_retarded_cavemen.com

[carbonhed]

Somebody asked earlier about what happened to Pedro's challenge at the end of the race. In his interview on MotoGP.com he explained that he lost the grip at the end and couldn't challenge for the win.

So I thought it would be interesting to look at the lap analysis and see how many quick laps he managed before it all went pear shaped. He managed 5 mid 31's and then slowed over the last couple of laps to lose to the other two.

In Phillip Island when Marquez overtook Lorenzo on lap 17 he only managed three quick ones before overheating his tyre and falling back. Which he followed up by husbanding his tyre and making a late charge to victory.

When you know you're working with that kind of window it makes perfect sense to mug your opponent at the end. Marquez has said that that was the plan. It was disrupted by a yellow flag at his point of attack four laps from home, then Dani arrived, and the dice cost him half a second. He just ran out of time to make a guaranteed safe pass. Which it had to be after the warning at Sepang. Plus the fact that he must now despise Rossi... aaand Lorenzo is Spanish. Shit happens.

Or it could all be a massive conspiracy.

Looking forward to 2016 when Rossi's amazing ability to rapidly adapt to changed circumstances, plus of course his awesome tactics and brilliantly inventive mindgames lets him romp to his next championship victory. Just like he did with the Ducati.

[onearmedbandit]

Even Lorenzo said had it been another race then the Honda riders would've tried to overtake him. That says volumes in itself.

[bogan]

Even Lorenzo said had it been another race then the Honda riders would've tried to overtake him. That says volumes in itself.

That horhay is full of shit? Danni seemed to have a good try at it anyway.

[onearmedbandit]

That horhay is full of shit? Danni seemed to have a good try at it anyway.

Yup he must be huh, I mean what would he know right. Plenty of experts across the 'net know better than him...

[carbonhed]

Yup he must be huh, I mean what would he know right. Plenty of experts across the 'net know better than him...

Lorenzo said that in parc ferme before he'd seen any video of what actually went down. Even you knew more about what really happened than he did.. and that must be a first so be happy.

[onearmedbandit]

Lorenzo said that in parc ferme before he'd seen any video of what actually went down. Even you knew more about what really happened than he did.. and that must be a first so be happy.

Yep, he must have no idea of what his race pace was and what Marquez must be capable of until he saw the video of it...

[husaberg]

Yep, he must have no idea of what his race pace was and what Marquez must be capable of until he saw the video of it...

All those pit boards appear to be wasted on him aye:laugh:

[carbonhed]

Yep, he must have no idea of what his race pace was and what Marquez must be capable of until he saw the video of it...

Aaaand that makes no sense at all.

[onearmedbandit]

Aaaand that makes no sense at all.

That's ok. I've noticed comprehension isn't your strong point. I'm sure you have other things you're good at though. Keep your chin up.

[carbonhed]

That's ok. I've noticed comprehension isn't your strong point. I'm sure you have other things you're good at though. Keep your chin up.

:laugh: I'll make sure to do that.

[carbonhed]

Testing is live on MotoGP.com.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Na mate, I'm not a Rossi lover or a MM hater. What I saw was MM being faster through certain corners, particularly one of the right hand ones, cannot tell you which one. He was right up Lorenzos date on a couple of occasions for that corner, but nadda. I know it may seem like a odd thought, but I reckon his hatred for Rossi overrode his desire to win, but not the desire to give up 2nd place to Pedro as even if Pedro had got in fron't of MM the title was still Lorenzos. For the record I think the fastest rider won the championship. I also feel that rider is a arsehole, should of let his riding do the talking instead of constantly whining like a little bitch (Rossi too) and then beating his chest like a He Man today. Meh....
The only rider to come out of this debacle with any kudos is Pedro.

Here's an idea. Lorenzo, when he's on song...is THE fastest road racer on the planet. He proved this, by beating MM's qual lap by a full 1/2 sec. Which at Valencia, is nearly unheard of.

He then rode THE race of his fucking life...under immense pressure, to do what he needed to do, to win the title. He won the race, going away at the front, like he did so for every other of his race wins this year, and most other years...yet he has to suffer the indignity of being told he only won the title because one of his fiercest rivals helped him win it.

Fuck off man. And don't even talk about whining. And sorry...he deserves to beat his chest. Does Rossi never do so? The original king of the ever so gay pantomines?

[onearmedbandit]

Love the passion in this thread. From either side of the argument. Haven't seen so many worked up over something not critical to their own lives in ages.

Meh, bring on 2016. Should be an interesting season hopefully free of the controversy that's surrounded this season and caused so many fanatics, those pro-Rossi and equally those anti him, to go full retard.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Should be an interesting season hopefully free of the controversy that's surrounded this season and caused so many fanatics, those pro-Rossi and equally those anti him, to go full retard.

Fuck off mate! Highlight of the decade!

[sugilite]

Here's an idea. Lorenzo, when he's on song...is THE fastest road racer on the planet. He proved this, by beating MM's qual lap by a full 1/2 sec. Which at Valencia, is nearly unheard of.

He then rode THE race of his fucking life...under immense pressure, to do what he needed to do, to win the title. He won the race, going away at the front, like he did so for every other of his race wins this year, and most other years...yet he has to suffer the indignity of being told he only won the title because one of his fiercest rivals helped him win it.

Fuck off man. And don't even talk about whining. And sorry...he deserves to beat his chest. Does Rossi never do so? The original king of the ever so gay pantomines?

Here's a idea, I saw one of the most aggressive riders I've ever seen shadow a dude where he was clearly faster in places and not once did he even look like making a move, only to put a hard one on his team mate. I even said Rossi was a whinger too. Lorenzo wanted the a heavier penalty implemented on his own team mate so he did not have to fight at the last round - even had his lawyers lined up. So you fuck of mate and have your opinion, and I will fuck off and have mine.

[jasonu]

Aaaand that makes no sense at all.

Are you related to Cassina???

[Drew]

Anyone got times of the new bikes on the new rubber?

[Reckless]

Pretty good before I went to bed about 1:31 if I remember correctly

[carbonhed]

Anyone got times of the new bikes on the new rubber?

http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/225049/1/valencia-motogp-test-times-tuesday-final.html

Lots of front end crashes apparently. Which I guess is to be expected.

[Drew]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/225049/1/valencia-motogp-test-times-tuesday-final.html

Lots of front end crashes apparently. Which I guess is to be expected.

I was expecting the Michies to be suited to Ducati more than the Bridgestones. It would appear that isn't the case.

Wonder if Yamaha will trial big bang motors again and get their riders to have a go at slower in and faster out.

[bogan]

Love the passion in this thread. From either side of the argument. Haven't seen so many worked up over something not critical to their own lives in ages.

Meh, bring on 2016. Should be an interesting season hopefully free of the controversy that's surrounded this season and caused so many fanatics, those pro-Rossi and equally those anti him, to go full retard.

Did you miss that other recent sporting event that should not be named?

Amen to that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's a idea, I saw one of the most aggressive riders I've ever seen shadow a dude where he was clearly faster in places and not once did he even look like making a move, only to put a hard one on his team mate. I even said Rossi was a whinger too. Lorenzo wanted the a heavier penalty implemented on his own team mate so he did not have to fight at the last round - even had his lawyers lined up. So you fuck of mate and have your opinion, and I will fuck off and have mine.

One that QUITE OFTEN waits until the very last corner/lap to pull his move so they can't come back at him...that got pissed off by his own team mate carving him up and letting Lorenzo get away (did you see him bash his fuel tank on the warm down lap?)...didn't seem to happy to me.

I know you as a pretty fierce competitor in your day mate, and I doubt you, like me, would ever LET anyone beat you if you could beat them.

As far as fucking off goes, you know that's how I speak/communicate in real life, I'm not telling you to fuck off as it were!

[Dave-]

Love the passion in this thread. From either side of the argument. Haven't seen so many worked up over something not critical to their own lives in ages.

So true, as exciting as Marc has been to watch, the sport has needed a decent rivalry.

When's the best time to buy the videopass for 2016 guys? I see there's some sort of special on at the moment, if I buy something now I get 25% off later? doesn't sound like a saving to me...

[Badjelly]

Mat Oxley has a guest article on David Emmett's Motomatters, that links through to the Motorsport Magazine site:

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/what-really-happened-in-valencia/

Even better than David Emmett's article a day or two ago. I won't try to summarise it, and I can't copy text off the web page, but the final paragraph says it all.

[Shaun Harris]

Jl won, and VR lost. End of story

[carbonhed]

Mat Oxley has a guest article on David Emmett's Motomatters, that links through to the Motorsport Magazine site:

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/what-really-happened-in-valencia/

Even better than David Emmett's article a day or two ago. I won't try to summarise it, and I can't copy text off the web page, but the final paragraph says it all.

I've been waiting for that article too.

Great writing.

[onearmedbandit]

Mat Oxley has a guest article on David Emmett's Motomatters, that links through to the Motorsport Magazine site:

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/what-really-happened-in-valencia/

Even better than David Emmett's article a day or two ago. I won't try to summarise it, and I can't copy text off the web page, but the final paragraph says it all.

Read that earlier today, great write-up.

[jasonu]

Jl won, and VR lost. End of story

A brilliant deduction!!!

[Badjelly]

Jl won, and VR lost. End of story

If only, but that was 2015 and now it's 2016:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/176760-MotoGP-2016

[sugilite]

One that QUITE OFTEN waits until the very last corner/lap to pull his move so they can't come back at him...that got pissed off by his own team mate carving him up and letting Lorenzo get away (did you see him bash his fuel tank on the warm down lap?)...didn't seem to happy to me.

I know you as a pretty fierce competitor in your day mate, and I doubt you, like me, would ever LET anyone beat you if you could beat them.

As far as fucking off goes, you know that's how I speak/communicate in real life, I'm not telling you to fuck off as it were!

No wurries mate!

[Doppleganger]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/74002332/jorge-lorenzo-suffers-burns-in-motorcycle-mishap-at-motogp-title-party-in-mallorca

Karma maybe

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/74002332/jorge-lorenzo-suffers-burns-in-motorcycle-mishap-at-motogp-title-party-in-mallorca

Karma maybe

For what? Being the rightful champion of 2015? That's odd.

[carbonhed]

David Emmett's podcast after Valencia.

https://soundcloud.com/the-paddock-pass-podcast/episode-10

[pritch]

That's odd.

True. I wonder if he got a get well card from Rossi?

[carbonhed]

True. I wonder if he got a get well card from Rossi?

Do you imagine he cares? Not everybody is as enthralled as you.

[pritch]

Do you imagine he cares? Not everybody is as enthralled as you.

Ummm I do realise that this site doesn't have a sarcasm emoji, but even that probably wouldn't help your seriously "disadvantaged" comprehension skills.
And I do mean that in a non-judgemental, politically correct way.

It will probably come as news to you (like amost everything else), but Stoner's daughter shares a birthday with Rossi.
Since he can't possibly overlook it, do you think Stoner sends Rossi a birthday card? :whistle:

[Shaun Harris]

Ummm I do realise that this site doesn't have a sarcasm emoji, but even that probably wouldn't help your seriously "disadvantaged" comprehension skills.
And I do mean that in a non-judgemental, politically correct way.

It will probably come as news to you (like amost everything else), but Stoner's daughter was born on the same date as Rossi.
Since he can't possibly overlook it, do you think Stoner sends Rossi a birthday card? :whistle:



say it as it is Ron, Carbonhead is a dick head, who ever the fuk he may be

[carbonhed]

Ummm I do realise that this site doesn't have a sarcasm emoji, but even that probably wouldn't help your seriously "disadvantaged" comprehension skills.
And I do mean that in a non-judgemental, politically correct way.

It will probably come as news to you (like amost everything else), but Stoner's daughter shares a birthday with Rossi.
Since he can't possibly overlook it, do you think Stoner sends Rossi a birthday card? :whistle:

Riiiiight...

No need to be politically correct with me. i don't respect you enough to give a fuck what, or even if, you think.

Maybe Flossi will win next year?

Jorge Lorenzo won this one!

http://photos.motogp.com/2015/11/08/010_gp_4371.gallery_full_top_fullscreen.jpg

[carbonhed]

Kevin Schwantz on the end of the 2015 season. Motorsport.com.

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/schwantz-rossi-was-in-trouble-even-without-grid-penalty/

[Crasherfromwayback]

Kevin Schwantz on the end of the 2015 season. Motorsport.com.

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/schwantz-rossi-was-in-trouble-even-without-grid-penalty/

Starting dead last? No problemo!

https://www.facebook.com/desnotneus.vanhier/videos/903902479662972/

[jasonu]

Starting dead last? No problemo!

https://www.facebook.com/desnotneus.vanhier/videos/903902479662972/

Eddie Lawson. Cool as a cucumber!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Eddie Lawson. Cool as a cucumber!!!

Aye. The man that made me race Green in the first place.

[nodrog]

Aye. The man that made me race Green in the first place.

I heard you prefer the brown.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I heard you prefer the brown.

I'm very versatile mate!

[Banditbandit]

Maybe Flossi will win next year?



And maybe Marc will learn to stay on the bike ... he had too many offs this season to get there ...

[popelli]

LOl. Good acid at your place eh? The best man won the title this year. End of story and a fact.

fact is Lorenzo passed a bike on a yellow flag in one race

factor that and the penalty into the results and Rossi is the world champion

fact MM was deliberately holding people up to assist Lorenzo


the facts are the end result was distorted by the above and because of this there will always be controversy over who should have the title

best man won the title ??? questionable given facts as per above

[Shaun Harris]

And maybe Marc will learn to stay on the bike ... he had too many offs this season to get there ...


MM had 13 crashes 3 for jl and 2 for Vr

[Crasherfromwayback]

fact is Lorenzo passed a bike on a yellow flag in one race

factor that and the penalty into the results and Rossi is the world champion

fact MM was deliberately holding people up to assist Lorenzo


the facts are the end result was distorted by the above and because of this there will always be controversy over who should have the title

best man won the title ??? questionable given facts as per above

Nothing Rossi hasn't done before. Fact is...MM was DQ last year for doing one lap too many and still won the title. How's that for a fact?