MotoGP 2015

[Mental Trousers]

Entry List

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/2015+MotoGP+Entry+List+Announced

[James Deuce]

Awwww, with that title I was expecting cows.

Aleix Espargaro has been inspirational this year. It will be a shame to watch Suzuki consign his talent to a sad little footnote in the history books.

[Shaun Harris]

Iannone nailed for hitting pedrosa. The decision of Race Direction is to impose the addition of One Penalty Point to the record of rider #29 Andrea Iannone, according to Article 3.3.1.3 of the 2014 FIM Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix Disciplinary and Arbitration Code.


Guess his claim of getting a false nuetral could not be proven for some strange reason, as his data logger would have had that info if it did happen, which would have made it a genuine racing incident with NO awawrded points I think.

[Bender]

FFS fix the thread heading it's MotoGP, not MootoGP.

[haydes55]

Are cowasaki going to be in motogp next year?

[Shaun Harris]

Are cowasaki going to be in motogp next year?


NOPE. Not mentioned any where re Motogp racing

[pritch]

NOPE. Not mentioned any where re Motogp racing

Aaah but what about Mootogp? :innocent:

[ellipsis]

Aaah but what about Mootogp? :innocent:

...that will be run at Pamplona...more Spaniards moo-ted to win that one also...

[James Deuce]

Are cowasaki going to be in motogp next year?

I see what you did there.

[Bender]

...that will be run at Pamplona...more Spaniards moo-ted to win that one also...

Those buggers will milk anything.

[James Deuce]

This thread is in danger of becoming cheesy.

[ellipsis]

...any whey will do...

[Stirts]

Oh dairy dairy me.

[steveyb]

I'm not coming back here for heifer and heifer....

[Big Dog]

Is the typo making the subject a moot point? We are here to debate mootorcycles an mootorcyclists are we not?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[ellipsis]

I'm not coming back here for heifer and heifer....


...there may a thread coming up for the lactose intolerant...stick around...

[Big Dog]

Is that because the puns are a little cheesy? Or are you mootivated by other factors?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

P.s the farts of the lactose intolerant can have pretty good hang time. They really do stick around.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[ellipsis]

...a new thread should be started before casein-a comes along and tells us of the dangers of country riding and following milk tankers around corners...

[ellipsis]

...sorry Shaun...you posted in the 2015 milk racing thread...do not pass GO...

[Bender]

Looks like it will be an udder good race weekend.

[James Deuce]

I'll be hoofing it to the telly.

[ellipsis]

...I sent my wife to the supermarket to line up for the chocolate milk so I dont miss anything...I hope she's back before it's all over...

[James Deuce]

It has to be said: She'd be a cow if she didn't come back with the chocolate milk.

[Big Dog]

haha Ernie drives a fast milk truck.


Danni comes out fighting also


1. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 1.379s [Lap 15/16] 323km/h (Top Speed)
2. Aleix Espargaro ESP NGM Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 2m 1.393s +0.014s [10/13] 317km/h
3. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 2m 1.416s +0.037s [9/15] 322km/h
4. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 1.670s +0.291s [5/15] 327km/h
5. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V) 2m 1.716s +0.337s [9/17] 322km/h
6. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 2m 1.842s +0.463s [11/18] 324km/h
7. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 1.971s +0.592s [7/14] 323km/h
8. Cal Crutchlow GBR Ducati Team (Desmosedici) 2m 2.171s +0.792s [3/15] 322km/h
9. Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 2.209s +0.830s [15/16] 323km/h
10. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 2m 2.248s +0.869s [4/17] 322km/h
11. Andrea Iannone ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 2.597s +1.218s [8/15] 320km/h
12. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 2.627s +1.248s [17/18] 321km/h
13. Alvaro Bautista ESP Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V) 2m 2.722s +1.343s [11/17] 322km/h
14. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 2.847s +1.468s [10/18] 315km/h
15. Scott Redding GBR Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R)* 2m 2.898s +1.519s [14/16] 309km/h
16. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R) 2m 2.935s +1.556s [16/16] 311km/h
17. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici) 2m 3.220s +1.841s [12/13] 321km/h
18. Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R) 2m 3.787s +2.408s [15/16] 312km/h
19. Alex De Angelis RSM NGM Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 2m 4.454s +3.075s [14/16] 310km/h
20. Michael Laverty GBR Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART) 2m 4.553s +3.174s [13/14] 309km/h
21. Danilo Petrucci ITA IodaRacing Project (ART) 2m 4.658s +3.279s [15/16] 307km/h
22. Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Racing (Avintia)* 2m 5.007s +3.628s [4/13] 306km/h
23. Broc Parkes AUS Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART)* 2m 6.195s +4.816s [11/12] 305km/h


So your saying that they were really mooving?
Did any one throw a paddy about being left out in the paddock?

[Berries]

Is that because the puns are a little cheesy? Or are you mootivated by other factors?
Nah, I'm just fucking friesian.

[James Deuce]

Well, put a jersey on then!

[Bender]

You guys are really milking the cow theme.

Don't you think it's getting a little cheesy?

Maybe time to moove on.

[James Deuce]

Don't be a tit.

[Shaun Harris]

Don't be a tit.



udder-ly silly

[Big Dog]

I herd there is plenty of moola in racing at that level.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[James Deuce]

Sounds like a load of bull to me.

[Ntoxcated]

Plenty of changes in the paddock then.

[Maha]

That Cow Crutchlow is a dick.

[Berries]

Is he sponsored by MooviStar?

Or Cowasaki?

[ducatilover]

This has gone whey off topic.

[Big Dog]

There has been a general moovement toward bovine amoosment. Isn't it udderly cheesy?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Jamie]

MooOL at this thread :wacko:

[ellipsis]

...PD ya reckon...

[sugilite]

...PD ya reckon...
That would not be a total cowtastrophe.

[ellipsis]

MOTO-GP 2015

...if it's anything like this year, cant wait...

[raziel1983]

http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics/cow-riding.jpg

[Bender]

http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics/cow-riding.jpg

Gawd that's brilliant. Looks like its really mooving with the tail end on the ground and the nose doing a wheelie.

[george formby]

I herd Bernie Ecclestone's brother, ex milk float racing champion, Ernie, will be running the Mooto Gp paddock next year. Cud just be a ruminant bit of tripe, though.

[steveyb]

Fabio Quatararo to Estrella Galicia Moto3.
How is Nick Harris going to deal with his name???

[James Deuce]

He'll just spurt out any old thing in his usual lactose-intolerant fashion.

[pritch]

Fabio Quatararo to Estrella Galicia Moto3.
How is Nick Harris going to deal with his name???

That's the underage guy for whom the rules were changed, he has won the CEV twice but would still have been too young to race Moto3 at the start of next season. The age wasn't lowered but a clause permitting the CEV champion to race Moto3 if still underage was included.

He is usually described as French that's probably less than totally accurate, he has one French parent, and while I can't see where he lives, the suffix on his web page is "es" and the language is Spanish.

The signing with Estralla Galicia is unsurprising though as he was riding for them this year. Everything else aside, he would appear to be a real talent, Nick Harris might get a lot of practice saying his name. Mind you, that hasn't helped him with Bastianini.

[Shaun Harris]

Suzuki only 1 second off fastest lap time in testing yesterday from MM best lap time:wings:

[Pumba]

Suzuki only 1 second off fastest lap time in testing yesterday from MM best lap time:wings:

A step in the right direction, after taking about 6 steps back on race weekend. Call me cynical, and I really do hope I am proved wrong, but I cant see them being anything more than mid field traffic.

[Drew]

A step in the right direction, after taking about 6 steps back on race weekend. Call me cynical, and I really do hope I am proved wrong, but I cant see them being anything more than mid field traffic.I doubt there's any way to avoid that when bringing a new bike to the track.

Though I didn't understand it at the time, I can only assume that it is why they have waited two years to enter competition even though the bike was seemingly ready at the start of the season just been.

[ducatilover]

I imagine trying to build something to compete with the Honda and Yam is no easy task and I would be blown away if they can beat the Ducatis

I want to see Iannone on a decent machine, he's impressive as fuck at the start of a race. Finishes a little early though, but you can get pills for that

[mr bucketracer]

I imagine trying to build something to compete with the Honda and Yam is no easy task and I would be blown away if they can beat the Ducatis

I want to see Iannone on a decent machine, he's impressive as fuck at the start of a race. Finishes a little early though, but you can get pills for thati want to know more about these pills ;-)

[pritch]

Trust y'all had a safe Christmas and resisted the urges to overspend and overeat?

As the New Year is upon us I'd like to wish all you racing fans a happy and healthy 2015, and also wish success for Yamaha and Ducati so that they may get close enough to bother MM and give us some exciting racing.

If you didn't make the New Year's honours list fret not. There's always next year.:rolleyes:

And we might as well kick off a new thread?

[haydes55]

Well spelled title....

Any news on where the motogp will be broadcasted? Or will I need a motogp.com membership?

[roogazza]

New 'Thread' good job pritch.

What ever way it falls I have the coverage sorted.
Must have the 'Big TV' and the Lazyboy.:laugh::laugh:

[BMWST?]

New 'Thread' good job pritch.

What ever way it falls I have the coverage sorted.
Must have the 'Big TV' and the Lazyboy.:laugh::laugh:

how have you done it ?

[AllanB]

Somerset is gone - I'll have to rely on TV1-3 for coverage :no: ie - miss most of the season. NO I'm not paying for farking SKY.

[Dadpole]

Torrent is your friend. Pre Sommet I would usually have the full race within 2 hours of the flag.
Have to be careful you don't end up with the Aussie coverage though - Ads and whiny commentators.

[roogazza]

how have you done it ?
On the 2014 thread (post 2901 on page 73 motogp ) a couple of bright sparks gave options. Over xmas I spoke to one of my boys who can attach the computer to the TV.
But hey, its a while off and as I said either way, Sky or whatever, I'll do whats required.:shifty:

[BMWST?]

On the 2014 thread (post 2901 on page 73 motogp ) a couple of bright sparks gave options. Over xmas I spoke to one of my boys who can attach the computer to the TV.
But hey, its a while off and as I said either way, Sky or whatever, I'll do whats required.:shifty:
Ok I sorta recall that so motogp sub will be the option as of now

[pritch]

Currently playing the waiting game to see if SKY pick it up. Should they not I will again have to fork out for the Dorna coverage. I did try torrents once but it was less than a roaring success and I was wondering if torrents worked better when the programme was very recent and many more people were downloading/uploading?

Meantime I'm watching old westerns and Charles Bronson movies on Youtube. Roll on Qatar.

[denill]

Like Pritch, I will wait to see if SKY picks up MotoGP (Very unlikely, the PRICKS!) and if they don't I'll grudgingly pay for Dorma. :angry:

[roogazza]

Like Pritch, I will wait to see if SKY picks up MotoGP (Very unlikely, the PRICKS!) and if they don't I'll grudgingly pay for Dorma. :angry:
It'll be interesting Bill, to see if they go like last year and try and sweeten us by offering BSB.
That and WSB was the only reason I didn't cancel my sport package.

ps I even tried honestly to watch Cricket at the Basin last night !!!!!!!
Jeeeezus ! went outside after 10mins and humped hay bales around the paddock in preference !!!

[Autech]

Like Pritch, I will wait to see if SKY picks up MotoGP (Very unlikely, the PRICKS!) and if they don't I'll grudgingly pay for Dorma. :angry:

I hope like hell they do not, Sky prices are redonkulous. I think the Dorna package may be the only option for myself as I don't want to go back to paying for mysky just to watch three races every few weeks.

Torrenting is an option, I personally struggled to find a reliable source which doesn't get shut down within weeks. Lets hope Sommet rises from the ashes, I see they are getting people to pledge funding for them. I did wonder how a channel like that would survive with bugger all advertisements (you bought a jeep???:brick:) and some pricy contracts. When something is too good to be true...

[denill]

Thanks for the new thread Pritch. The other attempt was a bit of a fail with all the humorous? plays on the spelling.

[pritch]

Thanks for the new thread Pritch. The other attempt was a bit of a fail with all the humorous? plays on the spelling.

Ummm I'd forgotten the other one, did a search for the title and didn't see it, now I know why. Ooops!:o

Anyhoo, this morning on Twitter someone posted the following link to MotoMatters' David Emmett. Considering the success of the CEV series in producing a large percentage of the talent in GP racing there are some things of interest. For example this series, run by Dorna, offers prize money, MotoGP does not. The four pages contain the details.

http://www.fimcevrepsol.com/en/entries/expenses-and-prizes

If you delete everything after the ".com/en" in the address you will see the whole site - in English.


Re WSBK: I see they are using the Honda CBR650F in the EJC series this year, they went from the 250 Kawasaki to the KTM Duke, to the Honda 500 twin and now the 650 four IIRC. The sound track should be better and the kids should get more of a thrill?

[pritch]

Something to read:
http://ontrackoffroad.com/

[denill]

If you're interested in Sommett covering MotoGP in 2015 you may be interested in the postings here:

https://www.facebook.com/SommetSports?fref=nf

[pritch]

Nothing to do with GPs but... SKY didn't cover the Dakar Rally last year but they are this year. It's on several times a day, stage 4 today but there will be a wrap up of the whole week later.

[pritch]

Casey Stoner has signed to test for HRC again in 2015, starting before the next official test apparently.

[Autech]

Caey Stoner has signed to test for HRC again in 2015, starting before the next official test apparently.

Didn't he sign up to do so then to do bugger all testing last season? I seem to remember an interview somewhere with him saying such words. Bloody high calibre test rider they have there.

Would love to see him up against Marquez, shame he doesn't want to race anymore. Was never a great Stoner fan, but that dude knows how to ride!

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Nov/141120stonerad.htm>Mmmmm, Mladin had a point there:</A>

[Reckless]

Cheers for the new thread Pritch :) Happy New year Everyone :)

Havent had a chance to look on the MotoGP site since Xmas but my son says there is some really interesting stuff on it about the intricacies of the new rules this year and next etc.
We subscribe together every year and just let it role over about 80 bucks each if I remember correctly?? Last year I really liked the 45min pre Race interview sessions during practice with the riders with questions from the floor a lot more humorous and personal than a 30 sec after race interview. And watching when we liked and how we like without have to record anything. I think BSB was 40 bucks but I never got to watch much, to busy? I just torrented the first 3 rounds of the AMA MX damn good quality, damn fast download to 3.5 gig per round for both classes full coverage and it only took about 40mins each?

I see this as a transition season till we get same for all rules :woohoo:
Anyone hear if Honda are still threatening to quit if they have fixed electronics???

Same as Pritch I hope Suzuki etc find their feet quickly and Ducati can match the Yamaha and Honda.
I think Lorenzo wil come out fitter and fighting this year. Rossi to :)
I did read Danni's Crew chief has gone to KTM to head up there MotoGP effort. Wondering if a new guy might give him a lift like it did Rossi.

[Oscar]

The Race Director is staying at my place.
Lots of swearing coming from the garage as he works on his Adventure bike.

[pritch]

The Race Director is staying at my place.


Got any quotable quotes? Or are you not plying him with enough strong drink? :whistle:

[Oscar]

Got any quotable quotes? Or are you not plying him with enough strong drink? :whistle:

There has been far too much strong drink.
That's why my memory is fuzzy...

[roogazza]

The Race Director is staying at my place.
Lots of swearing coming from the garage as he works on his Adventure bike.

:sick:not sick....green with envy,sounds like fun !! :sick:

[pritch]

Things are coming to life after the prolonged break. The new Movistar Yamaha livery has been revealed, as has apparently the observation that Lorenzo has lost a lot of weight.

In the next few days the GP circus heads for Sepang. Stoner has been holidaying in Malaya but is heading for Japan for testing.

Both Doohan and Schwantz have expressed the opinion that Miller should replace Pedrosa at Repsol to partner Marquez. Both commented that the three year contract Miller has is very rare and that if Honda had that much faith in the boy they perhaps should have backed their judgement all the way. For those who think that the jump from Moto3 to MotoGP is too big, Doohan commented that he had never ridden 125 or 250 GPs before he rode the 500s.

Rossi thinks that Ducati will be more competitive this year. That could make for some interesting starts because Marquez likes to give the Ducati riders a tow in qualifying to put them between him and his more serious rivals on the grid.

Here's hoping for a good season.

On an unrelated matter, well related to Honda contracts anyway... Honda GB has given Jenny Tinmouth a "factory" ride in BSB which is a first.

[roogazza]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/213208/1/first-look-rossi-and-lorenzos-2015-yamaha.html

Motogp starting to crank up again.
Kiwi biker racing section has been dead as a maggot for months.
Go Rossi !!!!!!!!!

[Shaun Harris]

Im buying the Motogp pass this Friday for the year, cannot be arsed gambling on a tv company getting the deal and not showing all details

[Oscar]

Im buying the Motogp pass this Friday for the year, cannot be arsed gambling on a tv company getting the deal and not showing all details

I'd wait a coupla weeks...

[pritch]

Im buying the Motogp pass this Friday for the year, cannot be arsed gambling on a tv company getting the deal and not showing all details
Well, to keep yourself occupied you can then watch their "classic" races, there are quite a few races from previous years avilable.

[Shaun Harris]

Well, to keep yourself occupied you can then watch their "classic" races, there are quite a few races from previous years avilable.


I will actually be extremely busy soon Pritch, all the dots are nearlly joined together again man

[pritch]

I will actually be extremely busy soon Pritch, all the dots are nearlly joined together again man

I hope it goes well for you. Still, there are some good races from the back catalogue on the site if you need a fix before the season kicks off.


Rossi says he is focussed on winning and wants a tenth championship. I wish him well too.

This weekend in Britain the first of a two part TV special, "Our Guy In India". Guy Matrin has been touring India on a Royal Enfield. If anyone notices that the programme is showing here could you please give a shout in this thread? Thanks in anticipation.

[Dadpole]

This weekend in Britain the first of a two part TV special, "Our Guy In India". Guy Matrin has been touring India on a Royal Enfield.

But they speak English over there. How will they understand him?

[Mental Trousers]

Only in the Spanish CEV for now but it's a step in the right direction. Their Moto2 project didn't happen last time because nobody was willing to be the first. This time, hopefully, they'll do very well in the CEV and somebody in Moto2 will be willing to step up and break from the clone bikes.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/vyrus-986-m2-racing-spanish-cev-moto2/
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/2015/january/vyrus-to-take-hub-centered-steering-to-moto2/

[Shaun Harris]

Only in the Spanish CEV for now but it's a step in the right direction. Their Moto2 project didn't happen last time because nobody was willing to be the first. This time, hopefully, they'll do very well in the CEV and somebody in Moto2 will be willing to step up and break from the clone bikes.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/vyrus-986-m2-racing-spanish-cev-moto2/
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/2015/january/vyrus-to-take-hub-centered-steering-to-moto2/


It is the same basic concept of the bike I debut raced at the TT years back built by Mike Tryphonas in the UK. The bucket of his I raced at the TT, used a std GSX750 motor and had a leaking fox shock in the rear. I matched the same lap time as I managed on the rocket ship fast Britten! This chassis suspension is the future in my mind.

[Mental Trousers]

It is the same basic concept of the bike I debut raced at the TT years back built by Mike Tryphonas in the UK. The bucket of his I raced at the TT, used a std GSX750 motor and had a leaking fox shock in the rear. I matched the same lap time as I managed on the rocket ship fast Britten! This chassis suspension is the future in my mind.

The front ends of the Vyrus and Tryphonas are essentially identical. The problems for them are


riding them is a bit different to a bike with forks and can take some getting used to
tyres are being used to their limit by bikes with forks already so there's nothing there for the funny front ends to exploit
the turning circle is farken awful

Others have tried to eliminate the forks before, but usually they were car guys thinking that getting rid of dive under brakes was a good thing, eg the ELF GP bikes. Those sort of highly visible failures have made people very wary of putting money into something different.

Getting rid of the forks could well be the big step that breaks everyone out of making clones. However, on the race track the limiting factor (once riders learn to ride the things) is tyres.

[Shaun Harris]

The front ends of the Vyrus and Tryphonas are essentially identical. The problems for them are


riding them is a bit different to a bike with forks and can take some getting used to
tyres are being used to their limit by bikes with forks already so there's nothing there for the funny front ends to exploit
the turning circle is farken awful

Others have tried to eliminate the forks before, but usually they were car guys thinking that getting rid of dive under brakes was a good thing, eg the ELF GP bikes. Those sort of highly visible failures have made people very wary of putting money into something different.

Getting rid of the forks could well be the big step that breaks everyone out of making clones. However, on the race track the limiting factor (once riders learn to ride the things) is tyres.



The settings we ended up with were brilliant on the brakes, I was amazed at how late I could brake, and how far in to the turn I could carry them. Re tyres, I seriously cannot comment there, as road racing and track racing is hugely different as you well know, but the tryphonas was a dream over the mountain which is ridden like a closed track anyway. The Brittens major let down was lack of flex in the front end, making the tyre act like a suspension unit causing shit loads of patter

Re your points in hind sight, YES they are different to get used to for the rider, when sitting still on one, the reaction from input to the bars is the exact opposite action that you think you will get, and CORRECT, the turning radious is very limited, haha lucky in a race we basically go streight eh


The bike in this link will NOT be succesfull though, ( Yes it looks fekin cool) the bike designed and built by Mike Tryphonas would be though. I cannot elaberate any more than that though about it

[Reckless]

# Rider Nat. Team Machine

4 A DOVIZIOSO ITA DUCATI TEAM DUCATI
6 S BRADL GER FORWARD RACING FORWARD YAMAHA
8 H BARBERA SPA AVINTIA RACING DUCATI
9 D PETRUCCI ITA PRAMAC RACING DUCATI
15 A DE ANGELIS RSM OCTO IODARACING TEAM ART
17 K ABRAHAM CZE AB MOTORACING HONDA
19 A BAUTISTA SPA APRILIA RACING TEAM GRESINI APRILIA
25 M VINALES SPA TEAM SUZUKI MotoGP SUZUKI
26 D PEDROSA SPA REPSOL HONDA TEAM HONDA
29 A IANNONE ITA DUCATI TEAM DUCATI
33 M MELANDRI ITA APRILIA RACING TEAM GRESINI APRILIA
35 C CRUTCHLOW UK CWM-LCR HONDA HONDA
38 B SMITH UK MONSTER YAMAHA TECH 3 YAMAHA
41 A ESPARGARO SPA TEAM SUZUKI MotoGP SUZUKI
43 J MILLER AUS CWM- LCR HONDA HONDA
44 P ESPARGARO SPA MONSTER YAMAHA TECH 3 YAMAHA
45 S REDDING UK ESTRELLA GALICIA MARC VD HONDA
46 V ROSSI ITA MOVISTAR YAMAHA MotoGP YAMAHA
50 E LAVERTY IRISH DRIVE M7 ASPAR HONDA
63 M DI MEGLIO FRA AVINTIA RACING DUCATI
68 Y HERNANDEZ COL PRAMAC RACING DUCATI
69 N HAYDEN USA DRIVE M7 ASPAR HONDA
76 L BAZ FRA FORWARD RACING FORWARD YAMAHA
93 M MARQUEZ SPA REPSOL HONDA TEAM HONDA
99 J LORENZO SPA MOVISTAR YAMAHA MotoGP YAMAHA

[roogazza]

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/01/29/analyzing_yamaha_s_motogp_launch_a_motiv.html

Mmmm, full seamless for the Yam.

[pritch]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/Stoner+on+assisting+HRC+preparations+for+Sepang+1

[jasonu]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/Stoner+on+assisting+HRC+preparations+for+Sepang+1

Nice work if you can get it.
I'm waiting for the day when the report says CS puts in better lap times while testing than the Factory rider's race pace lap times.

[pritch]

Nice work if you can get it.
I'm waiting for the day when the report says CS puts in better lap times while testing than the Factory rider's race pace lap times.

We would probably never know. The testing he was involved in was "private". You could even say secret. Factory technicians, no journos allowed, no contracted GP riders.

The testing getting underway today is different, it's public and involves the actual teams and riders.

[Drew]

Suzuki not having a great start.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8-FLoGIgAA7BDx.jpg:large

[ellipsis]

...you will find them over on the MotoGP 2015 thread Drew...

[Drew]

...you will find them over on the MotoGP 2015 thread Drew...

Ummm, what? Are there two threads for 2015 now?

[ellipsis]

...this one became a little too lactic...

[Drew]

Only in the Spanish CEV for now but it's a step in the right direction. Their Moto2 project didn't happen last time because nobody was willing to be the first. This time, hopefully, they'll do very well in the CEV and somebody in Moto2 will be willing to step up and break from the clone bikes.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/vyrus-986-m2-racing-spanish-cev-moto2/
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/2015/january/vyrus-to-take-hub-centered-steering-to-moto2/

Be interesting to see it compete, but I can't see how there is an advantage to it.

Shaun, comparing it to another bike without forks is not really very informative.

How did the Britten compare to conventional bikes at the TT?

[Mental Trousers]

Be interesting to see it compete, but I can't see how there is an advantage to it.

Shaun, comparing it to another bike without forks is not really very informative.

How did the Britten compare to conventional bikes at the TT?

You can compare the Tryphonos and any Vyrus because their front ends are virtually identical. The benefits Shaun found on the Tryphonos will be the same on the Vyrus. The main difference is the Vyrus front end has been under development since 2001 (before that with Bimoto since about 1991), whereas the Mike Tryphonos appears to have moved on to other things.

The main advantage for hub centre steers is under braking. Because there is virtually no dive caused by the brakes or engine braking there's still tons of suspension left. So instead of using up all of the suspension travel then having the front lock cos the tyre is trying to stop the bike as well as do the job of the suspension, riders are able to brake much, much later and hold full brakes all the way to the apex. The riders are usually advised to go past their usual braking marker, wait until they see God, give it an extra 25m or so then hit the anchors and turn in.

If the riders are roughly equal ability you can't use a bike with forks to out brake a properly set up hub centre steered bike without making a complete balls up of it.

[Mental Trousers]

...this one became a little too lactic...

... and then someone went and corrected the title. How boring.

Oh well, best merge the two threads then.

[Drew]

You can compare the Tryphonos and any Vyrus because their front ends are virtually identical. The benefits Shaun found on the Tryphonos will be the same on the Vyrus. The main difference is the Vyrus front end has been under development since 2001 (before that with Bimoto since about 1991), whereas the Mike Tryphonos appears to have moved on to other things.

The main advantage for hub centre steers is under braking. Because there is virtually no dive caused by the brakes or engine braking there's still tons of suspension left. So instead of using up all of the suspension travel then having the front lock cos the tyre is trying to stop the bike as well as do the job of the suspension, riders are able to brake much, much later and hold full brakes all the way to the apex. The riders are usually advised to go past their usual braking marker, wait until they see God, give it an extra 25m or so then hit the anchors and turn in.

If the riders are roughly equal ability you can't use a bike with forks to out brake a properly set up hub centre steered bike without making a complete balls up of it.
Doesn't do great things for loading the front hoop though I thought.

No experience other than a hoon on a BMW thing though.

[Mental Trousers]

Doesn't do great things for loading the front hoop though I thought.

No experience other than a hoon on a BMW thing though.

The BMW set up is different. I've only ridden a single Telelever equipped Beemer and it felt great to me. A bit different cos most of the usual movement and flex was missing, but I liked it. The only time I pushed the limits of braking was when the car in front of me did something stupid. Then I hit the brakes really hard and the bike handled it better than I did.

Loading the front for braking needs careful design and set up though.

[Reckless]

Good summary of how the first day went. There's another article on the GP site on how fit and happy with the M1, VR and JL are

Marquez tops timesheet on opening day of 2015 testing

Sepang Test Day 1 - Action Reel
Wednesday, 4 February 2015
As the MotoGP™ action for 2015 got underway on Wednesday at the Sepang International Circuit it was Marc Marquez who led the way with a lap best lap time of 2’00.262 on day one.
With 30 riders featuring on track, the full 2015 MotoGP grid were all in attendance other than Pramac Racing rider Yonny Hernandez who should return from injury at Sepang 2. Five test riders from the various factories also gathered data for their respective manufacturers.

Repsol Honda’s double MotoGP™ World Champion Marquez recorded his best time on the 62nd of 63 laps, whilst his teammate Dani Pedrosa was 0.483s behind in fifth place. Pedrosa had a crash late on at turn nine without consequences.

HRC have arrived at Sepang with numerous bikes for the factory riders and their test riders to use - 2014 machines for comparison and 2015 prototypes for development. Marquez’s timesheet-topping best effort was 0.024s quicker than his fastest lap on the first day of testing last year.

In second place on Wednesday was Movistar Yamaha MotoGP’s Valentino Rossi (2’00.380), with the Italian and his teammate Jorge Lorenzo on similar YZR-M1 prototypes to those they tested in November at Valencia. Yamaha continue testing a shorter exhaust pipe, this time featuring a grill covering the air exit, with a view to avoid flame escapes and prevent the entry of gravel and debris.

There was also a special new ‘winter’ helmet for Rossi featuring snowflakes and reindeers, neither of which are likely to otherwise feature at Sepang this week. Lorenzo was third fastest, 0.141s behind Rossi.

Meanwhile Rossi and Lorenzo’s Monster Yamaha Tech 3 colleague Pol Espargaro showed good pace in sixth despite an early light crash as he begins his second year in the premier class. Espargaro’s teammate Bradley Smith lapped further down the timesheet in ninth. Yamaha test rider Katsuyuki Nakasuga also crashed unhurt in the morning.

The new CWM LCR Honda team duo of Cal Crutchlow and Jack Miller got down to work with their RC213V and Open spec RC213V-RS packages, finishing the day 10th and 19th respectively. Miller focused on adapting to the Magneti Marelli MotoGP electronics package - the Australian aiming to achieve better performance with traction control, whilst for Crutchlow the test is simply about reacquainting himself with his new factory machine.

Estrella Galicia Marc VDS Team’s Scott Redding also got plenty of laps in on the RC213V factory prototype, finishing the day 11th.

Ducati Team’s Andrea Dovizioso and his new teammate Andrea Iannone used a GP14.3 - an update on the GP14.2 which features some visually different aspects and electronics upgrades. The new Ducati GP15 is due for delivery for Sepang 2, later in February.

Dovizioso was fourth overall with a 2’00.617 best lap time, nearly two seconds quicker than on the same day of action at the same test last year. Iannone tried a new front fairing and finished the day seventh.

The Factory Aprilia Gresini pair of Alvaro Bautista and Marco Melandri (15th and 26th respectively) worked hard on their new machines - with pneumatic valve engines – after test rider Michael Laverty carried out an early morning shakedown on the Italian brand’s evolving prototype.

There was an early mechanical fault for Bautista on new Aprilia and he needed a push from Suzuki test rider Nobu Aoki - who was watching trackside at turn 4 - to get restarted.

Aleix Espargaro appeared not to be held back too much by a knee ligament injury sustained over the winter as he and MotoGP Rookie Maverick Viñales got back to work on the Suzuki GSX-RR. Espargaro ran off without major consequence at one point and ended up 14th - just under two seconds down on Marquez. Viñales lapped just under a second behind his new colleague in 21st place on the timesheet.

Suzuki also have a shorter exhaust pipe for testing and their factory riders only got started once test rider Takuya Tsuda had given the bike a shakedown early on.

In the absence of Pramac Racing’s Hernandez, Michele Pirro (12th) worked on electronics for Ducati using the GP14.2, whilst Danilo Petrucci (13th) worked with the GP14.1 using Open software.

Avintia Racing’s Hector Barbera (18th) and Mike Di Meglio (23rd) got used to the new Open Magneti Marelli software, as will all the riders using the new electronics package this season. Improvements to traction control and anti wheelie settings should assist the riders with their performances and set-ups.

NGM Forward Racing pair of Stefan Bradl and Loris Baz (25th) made progress on the Open Yamaha, with German Bradl impressing in eighth overall as the fastest Open rider – 1.294s off Marquez’s pace. Bradl had some electronics issues earlier in the day and was only able to produce a fast time after 5pm.

Drive M7 Aspar’s new signing Eugene Laverty was 22nd will aspire to get as close to teammate Nicky Hayden’s lap times on the Open RC213V-RS over the three days, with Hayden completing day one in 17th. AB Motoracing’s Karel Abraham on the same spec bike concluded the day in 24th position.

Octo IodaRacing Team’s Alex De Angelis will reportedly move onto Aprilia's factory spec electronics for Sepang 2, therefore still running Open Marelli software on the 2014 ART this week. He was 27th as the first day of 2015 tests came to a close

[pritch]

Just one comment on that report, (for which thanks) I read somewhere that it is no longer the NGM Forward racing team. NGM have departed but the team have found another sponsor.

[Reckless]

Just one comment on that report, (for which thanks) I read somewhere that it is no longer the NGM Forward racing team. NGM have departed but the team have found another sponsor.

HA Pritch Its off the official MotoGP site too LOL ??
There is heaps of stuff of interest linked to the official site that pops up on my Facebook almost daily. Like Rossi and JL's comments on the new Yammy, but I don't want to flood the thread??

[trustme]

You can compare the Tryphonos and any Vyrus because their front ends are virtually identical. The benefits Shaun found on the Tryphonos will be the same on the Vyrus. The main difference is the Vyrus front end has been under development since 2001 (before that with Bimoto since about 1991), whereas the Mike Tryphonos appears to have moved on to other things.

The main advantage for hub centre steers is under braking. Because there is virtually no dive caused by the brakes or engine braking there's still tons of suspension left. So instead of using up all of the suspension travel then having the front lock cos the tyre is trying to stop the bike as well as do the job of the suspension, riders are able to brake much, much later and hold full brakes all the way to the apex. The riders are usually advised to go past their usual braking marker, wait until they see God, give it an extra 25m or so then hit the anchors and turn in.

If the riders are roughly equal ability you can't use a bike with forks to out brake a properly set up hub centre steered bike without making a complete balls up of it.

I remember them going through all this with the ELF bike & Nessie. The theory is great but they could never build good feel into the system, something that like it or not the traditional forks does pretty well. How important is ' feel ' ask Rossi about his Ducati days. Forks give better feed back to a rider than any other front suspension we have seen so far.
What was the Brittens achilles heel, it's forks !!!

[Mental Trousers]

I remember them going through all this in the with the ELF bike & Nessie. The theory is great but they could never build good feel into the system, something that like it or not the traditional forks does pretty well. How important is ' feel ' ask Rossi about his Ducati days. Forks give better feed back to a rider than any other front suspension we have seen so far.
What was the Brittens achilles heel, it's forks !!!

The problem with the ELF bikes is the designer was a car guy and wanted the bikes to behave the same way as a car, so that meant minimal dive on the brakes etc and none of that inconvenient weight transfer. Weight transfer is needed on bikes.

As Shaun mentioned above, the problem with the Britten was there was no flex at the front so it had no feel. Like weight transfer, flex (controlled flex) is also necessary on bikes. That's partly why Ducati had so many problems with the monocoque bikes - the engine doesn't flex. (Being stubborn, arrogant Italians who treated advice as criticism didn't help either)

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the Vyrus goes because it's the only funny front end that's still in development after 20 years, so they've worked most of the basic problems out of it.

[Autech]

The problem with the ELF bikes is the designer was a car guy and wanted the bikes to behave the same way as a car, so that meant minimal dive on the brakes etc and none of that inconvenient weight transfer. Weight transfer is needed on bikes.

As Shaun mentioned above, the problem with the Britten was there was no flex at the front so it had no feel. Like weight transfer, flex (controlled flex) is also necessary on bikes. That's partly why Ducati had so many problems with the monocoque bikes - the engine doesn't flex. (Being stubborn, arrogant Italians who treated advice as criticism didn't help either)

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the Vyrus goes because it's the only funny front end that's still in development after 20 years, so they've worked most of the basic problems out of it.

What is the chances of it making it in to the big boy Moto2 series? I can't imagine too many teams willing to step that far and cough up some dough for a bike which is so different. Maybe it will kick arse in the Spanish series? Still won't knock it though as it's staying true to the Moto2 mission of "Build a chassis around this engine".

Great to be back on the Motogp site after a lengthy break, this year should be awesome I'm thinking.
Love how many bikes Honda brought along to the testing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :first: plus a former world champion test rider $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :first:

[Drew]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the Vyrus goes because it's the only funny front end that's still in development after 20 years, so they've worked most of the basic problems out of it.
Lap times will be the test of that, and since there no generations of riders to copy and get advice from it's not likely to get enough backing to stay out there. At least not long enough to truely gauge.

[Mental Trousers]

What is the chances of it making it in to the big boy Moto2 series? I can't imagine too many teams willing to step that far and cough up some dough for a bike which is so different. Maybe it will kick arse in the Spanish series? Still won't knock it though as it's staying true to the Moto2 mission of "Build a chassis around this engine".

Nobody wants to be the first and spend the money on what might turn out to be a lemon. But it has a really good chance of doing well in the CEV, as long as they don't run into problems with funding etc and can keep it on a maintenance and development program similar to all the other bikes.


Lap times will be the test of that, and since there no generations of riders to copy and get advice from it's not likely to get enough backing to stay out there. At least not long enough to truely gauge.

Yep, but I'm hoping that's not how it goes.

[steveyb]

Just one comment on that report, (for which thanks) I read somewhere that it is no longer the NGM Forward racing team. NGM have departed but the team have found another sponsor.

Yeah a bit of an oversight on MotoGP.com's part there.
The bikes only have Forward on them and all of the NGM stuff on Bradl's leathers was taped over.

The pics of the riders hard on the brakes were pretty awesome.

[merv]

At the end of the first test in Sepang even I was surprised the Suzukis didn't do that bad really and Maverick did okay for a rookie. Clearly he's no Marc Marquez jumping on a MotoGP bike and topping the time sheets as a rookie but then this model Suzuki is new to this too and they appear to have sorted the reliability issues with the engines, now thye just need a bit more power. Perhaps they should go back to a V4.

[Shaun Harris]

At the end of the first test in Sepang even I was surprised the Suzukis didn't do that bad really and Maverick did okay for a rookie. Clearly he's no Marc Marquez jumping on a MotoGP bike and topping the time sheets as a rookie but then this model Suzuki is new to this too and they appear to have sorted the reliability issues with the engines, now thye just need a bit more power. Perhaps they should go back to a V4.


I was rapped by both riders results in testing, They will do bloody well as a virgin team as such this year. Maverick is pure class, and will be one of the top men in a couple of years I think

[Luckylegs]

Go MARCO




...Ho hum

[pritch]

Moto2 & Moto3 are testing at Valencia starting today.

[Shaun Harris]

Moto2 & Moto3 are testing at Valencia starting today.


Dam, I failed to buy my Motogp pass, and purchased a trick Millar welding unit instead

[Reckless]

Marquez fastest bike ever around Sepang

http://www.motornews.co.nz/bikes/motogp/marquez-breaks-record-in-sepang-motogp-testing/

All lap times on there to. I see Iannone has stuck the Duc between the Hondas and the Yammies :)

FRIDAY TEST TIMES:

Pos Rider Bike Car Time Gap Laps
1 Marc Marquez Honda Honda 1m58.867s - 52
2 Daniel Pedrosa Honda Honda 1m59.006s 0.139s 41
3 Andrea Iannone Ducati Ducati 1m59.388s 0.521s 47
4 Valentino Rossi Yamaha Yamaha 1m59.401s 0.534s 49
5 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Yamaha 1m59.624s 0.757s 55
6 Pol Espargaro Tech 3 Yamaha 1m59.851s 0.984s 50
7 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Ducati 1m59.874s 1.007s 33
8 Stefan Bradl Forward Yamaha 2m00.294s 1.427s 49
9 Bradley Smith Tech 3 Yamaha 2m00.384s 1.517s 50
10 Aleix Espargaro Suzuki Suzuki 2m00.486s 1.619s 36
11 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda 2m00.536s 1.669s 67
12 Maverick Vinales Suzuki Suzuki 2m00.964s 2.097s 51
13 Danilo Petrucci Pramac Racing Duc 2m00.970s 2.103s 48
14 Hiroshi Aoyama Honda Honda 2m01.029s 2.162s 46
15 Hector Barbera Avintia Racing Duc 2m01.183s 2.316s 57
16 Michele Pirro Pramac RacingDucati 2m01.232s 2.365s 56
17 Scott Redding Marc VDS Honda 2m01.263s 2.396s 67
18 Nicky Hayden Aspar Honda 2m01.508s 2.641s 52
19 Loris Baz Forward Yamaha 2m01.624s 2.757s 46
20 Jack Miller LCR Honda 2m01.895s 3.028s 50
21 Alvaro Bautista Aprilia Gresini Aprilia 2m01.924s 3.057s 63
22 Mike Di Meglio Avintia Racing Ducati 2m02.128s 3.261s 49
23 Karel Abraham AB Motoracing Honda 2m02.297s 3.430s 43
24 Eugene Laverty Aspar Honda 2m02.334s 3.467s 57
25 Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha Yamaha 2m02.363s 3.496s 22
26 Takumi Takahashi Honda Honda 2m03.113s 4.246s 64
27 Alex de Angelis IodaRacing ProjecART/Aprilia 2m03.471s 4.604s 32
28 Marco Melandri Aprilia Gresini Aprilia 2m03.641s 4.774s 61

[pritch]

All lap times on there to. I see Iannone has stuck the Duc between the Hondas and the Yammies :)



I don't know if he was given a tow, but that's on yet another version of the old bike. The new bike isn't ready yet.

[Reckless]

I don't know if he was given a tow, but that's on yet another version of the old bike. The new bike isn't ready yet.

I think I read somewhere it wont be till to second GP. Its also on soft tyre's etc bla bla bla Hate it but only onemore season of it to come :)

Early days yet but I see the Yammies are still a second a lap off the pace??

[roogazza]

I think I read somewhere it wont be till to second GP. Its also on soft tyre's etc bla bla bla Hate it but only onemore season of it to come :)
Early days yet but I see the Yammies are still a second a lap off the pace??

Yea Reckless, the sooner the better,kick that handicapping system to the curb.
Yams have improved,but Honda have an advantage,"The Joker" !

The poms , CC and Smith have no excuses left.(or have they?):laugh:

[Autech]

I think I read somewhere it wont be till to second GP. Its also on soft tyre's etc bla bla bla Hate it but only onemore season of it to come :)

Early days yet but I see the Yammies are still a second a lap off the pace??

I go back to what I said earlier, look at the $$$ Honda are throwing at it, if their "old" bike is that quick, how quick will the new bike be?

[denill]

Sommet Sport want to know what you want to view

https://www.facebook.com/SommetSports/posts/407603936062479

[Shaun Harris]

I think I read somewhere it wont be till to second GP. Its also on soft tyre's etc bla bla bla Hate it but only onemore season of it to come :)

Early days yet but I see the Yammies are still a second a lap off the pace??


The new bike will be at the next test session later this month

[Shaun Harris]

Moto2 2015 champion. I am taking a punt on Sam Lowes to stand as no1 at seasons end this year. 2nd in testing yesterday with the chassis parts he has been asking for, for a while now, and has now recieved them. They have changed to White power suspension, and with this now have there own technician on hand, last year they had no one on hand, just in house basic stuff.

[Shaun Harris]

Melandri, haha Apprillia are saying they hope he remembers how to ride a bike after the last few days of testing

[pritch]

Moto2 2015 champion. I am taking a punt on Sam Lowes to stand as no1 at seasons end this year.

I took a punt and put him in my fantasy team last year. This on the assumption that he would improve as the season went on. Sadly not. If they run the league again this year I might have to put him in again though.

The Circuit of Wales/Donnington deal has apparently fallen over. No surprises there. The British GP will return to Silverstone?

Bathurst is apparently mounting an attempt to take the GP and SBK races from Phillip Island. Maybe they should go after the proposed international TT series first?

Anyhoo it's a lovely day and I'm off for a pushbike ride.

[Luckylegs]

Melandri, haha Apprillia are saying they hope he remembers how to ride a bike after the last few days of testing

Yeh, he'll remember. Like he did second half of last year

Again..... ho-hum

[Mental Trousers]

Bathurst is apparently mounting an attempt to take the GP and SBK races from Phillip Island. Maybe they should go after the proposed international TT series first?

That's got to be a piss take. Mount Panorama needs a hell of a lot of changes before even look at it. The only places they can easily put enough run off are through The Chase, Murray's Corner and Hell Corner. Everywhere else needs major earthworks.

[Mental Trousers]

Melandri, haha Apprillia are saying they hope he remembers how to ride a bike after the last few days of testing

Yeh, he'll remember. Like he did second half of last year

Again..... ho-hum

Still don't know why they gave him that seat. I guess they'll say it was justified when he starts taking important points off his team mate at a vital stage of the Championship.

[Luckylegs]

Still don't know why they gave him that seat. I guess they'll say it was justified when he starts taking important points off his team mate at a vital stage of the Championship.

If you're team mate is that much slower than you, they get what they deserve. He gifted one race, what more did the frog want

[sil3nt]

That's got to be a piss take. Mount Panorama needs a hell of a lot of changes before even look at it. The only places they can easily put enough run off are through The Chase, Murray's Corner and Hell Corner. Everywhere else needs major earthworks.Helps when people link to articles
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/02/10/bathurst-make-motogp-bid-report

also

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[Mental Trousers]

If you're team mate is that much slower than you, they get what they deserve. He gifted one race, what more did the frog want

Turns out it was enough, after all, Guintoli won the Championship when everyone was saying he didn't have it in him and wrote him off. He rubbed a hell of a lot of noses in it with that. Still, for a while it was looking like Melandri was going to cost the team a lot more than he was gaining them.

Wouldn't expect any decent results from Melandri for a while though. It always takes him almost half a season to figure out a bike.

[Mental Trousers]

Helps when people link to articles
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/02/10/bathurst-make-motogp-bid-report

Much better. Makes sense now :niceone:


http://mtrack.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/panorama1.jpg



http://gfycat.com/CanineCleverArgentinehornedfrog

That's a cool vid. JL is much quicker through there than the others, but we don't get to see what follows as they may have the better line.

[denill]

Helps when people link to articles
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/02/10/bathurst-make-motogp-bid-report

Well that would mean a visit to NSW. Love the PI track. Hate the weather............

[Luckylegs]

Turns out it was enough, after all, Guintoli won the Championship when everyone was saying he didn't have it in him and wrote him off. He rubbed a hell of a lot of noses in it with that. Still, for a while it was looking like Melandri was going to cost the team a lot more than he was gaining them.

Wouldn't expect any decent results from Melandri for a while though. It always takes him almost half a season to figure out a bike.

True, particularly entertaining though with baz in a similar position on the kawasaki... anyway, better guinters than Sykes. I'll happily wait for no 33 to come good. I'm used to disappointment, I've been supporting the Warriors for 20 years

[pritch]

That's got to be a piss take. Mount Panorama needs a hell of a lot of changes before even look at it. The only places they can easily put enough run off are through The Chase, Murray's Corner and Hell Corner. Everywhere else needs major earthworks.

The talk was of a newly built circuit incorporating part of the existing circuit. You would need to read the proposal before deciding it's a piss take. I wouldn't expect the mount to be included.

The TT series could use the existing course cause they don't bother with run off or any poofta shit like that.

In the interests of clarity: I was aware that the TT people are trying to get an international series up and running. A series of genuine "road" races, they don't have to be 38 miles long, but all courses would be expected to be significantly longer than a normal track circuit. On that basis none of the existing kiwi road races would qualify? On the other hand, if there is insufficient interest from elsewhere the requirements might ease?

The plan is for a series of races culminating in a final at the Isle of Man. To win the title the winner would have to compete at the Island. The motivation behind their thinking is apparent.

When I first read about a bike race at Bathurst I assumed it was the TT thing but that's not the case. It's definitely the Phillip Island internationals they are after.

While this is being considered, there is reportedly growing resentment among Australian motorcyclists who travel to Phillip Island by bike at they way they are treated as a revenue source by the Victorian Police. I have read accounts of this but haven't personally experienced it. The way the traffic moves is interesting. All the latest flashest sport bikes available - all doing 100kph. If they get stuck behind a truck, they stay there. It's very apparent that the locals don't consider the roads to PI to be a playground.

If Bathurst is going to give this idea a serious punt they had better built a good track because Phillip Island is a great one.

[pritch]

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/901149/bike-races-bid-on-track/

[Mental Trousers]

The talk was of a newly built circuit incorporating part of the existing circuit. You would need to read the proposal before deciding it's a piss take. I wouldn't expect the mount to be included.


Much better. Makes sense now :niceone:


http://mtrack.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/panorama1.jpg

Yep, found it. Even found a pic of one proposal for the track.

Seems it's been around a while as I found a tender from 2010, although this was the first I'd heard.


If Bathurst is going to give this idea a serious punt they had better built a good track because Phillip Island is a great one.

It'd have to be exceptional. However, as long as the race is gonna make money and the track is good enough that's all that's needed by Dorna.

[denill]

Yep, found it. Even found a pic of one proposal for the track. Seems it's been around a while as I found a tender from 2010, although this was the first I'd heard. It'd have to be exceptional. However, as long as the race is gonna make money and the track is good enough that's all that's needed by Dorna.

Seems it would have no elevation. So it would be a bit featureless, like Taupo.

[pritch]

Fabio Quarteraro topped the Moto3 timesheets on day 1 at Valencia. Not bad for a rookie. Of course he wouldn't even have been allowed to ride if they hadn't changed the rules especially for him. Must put him in my fantasy team.

[denill]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/214552/1/valencia-moto2-test-times-tuesday-final.html>We would expect Alex Marquez to get faster:</a> And so will Honda.

[Pumba]

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/901149/bike-races-bid-on-track/


Yep, found it. Even found a pic of one proposal for the track.

Seems it's been around a while as I found a tender from 2010, although this was the first I'd heard.

Pritch's link is Dec 2008. They have been talking about building that second circuit for ages. Pretty sure they were even talking about taking the F1 off Melbourne as well.

[Shaun Harris]

I took a punt and put him in my fantasy team last year. This on the assumption that he would improve as the season went on. Sadly not. If they run the league again this year I might have to put him in again though.

The Circuit of Wales/Donnington deal has apparently fallen over. No surprises there. The British GP will return to Silverstone?

Bathurst is apparently mounting an attempt to take the GP and SBK races from Phillip Island. Maybe they should go after the proposed international TT series first?

Anyhoo it's a lovely day and I'm off for a pushbike ride.



The TT series has been talked about for years dude, and will never happen. Bathurst will also never get GP and WSB anything like it is currently. Hope you enjoyed your ride. Catch up with ya when I get back from Ch Ch at the end of the month.

[Shaun Harris]

Still don't know why they gave him that seat. I guess they'll say it was justified when he starts taking important points off his team mate at a vital stage of the Championship.

On form he is fast as proven last year in WSB, as well as he is a bloody good development rider, but the inconsistency that goes with him is bizzare. Ducati did the best thing by sending him for a brain cell check up

[Autech]

Wouldn't expect any decent results from Melandri for a while though. It always takes him almost half a season to figure out a bike.

But when he does figure it out, almost unstoppable.


True, particularly entertaining though with baz in a similar position on the kawasaki... anyway, better guinters than Sykes. I'll happily wait for no 33 to come good. I'm used to disappointment, I've been supporting the Warriors for 20 years

Me too, I've supported Pedrosa for years, much disappoint! Happy to wait too and I imagine his team will be too, though to be at the bottom of the timing boards in practice is not a very good start.


On form he is fast as proven last year in WSB, as well as he is a bloody good development rider, but the inconsistency that goes with him is bizzare. Ducati did the best thing by sending him for a brain cell check up

I wonder if it is down to his apparent (going by what is said about him) disability to change his riding style to suit the bike, rather the bike to suit his riding style. I do quite like how he can carry all that speed on the front into corners though, is great to watch.

[pritch]

I wonder if it is down to his apparent (going by what is said about him) disability to change his riding style to suit the bike, rather the bike to suit his riding style. I do quite like how he can carry all that speed on the front into corners though, is great to watch.

A lot of Melandri's inconsistency is due to his frequent brain explosions. "Do or die" overtaking moves are generally acceptable in the last corner of the last lap. Melandri though will try them on lap 2 - or any other time after the flag drops. Even if that means committing the ultimate sin of taking his team mate out in the process.

Some of that aggression might have been appropriate off the bike. When Biaggi slapped his face he should have responded by kicking Biaggi in the nuts.

[pritch]

I'm way behind with my Twitter feed and I'm going out shortly but...

The Russian round of SBK has fallen over apparently, just 13 rounds now.

The Brit GP has been confirmed at Slilverstone. Some of the whimsically inclined would have liked to see Rossi, Marquez et al leaping at Cadwell but not to be.

It has been reported that Guy Martin is to retire at the end of the year. He has responded that due to time pressures he will retire from some events after this year but would like to continue doing the more offbeat type events. Like Pykes's Peak?

The WSBK world is currently en route to Phillip Island, the drought may be due to break in a week or two? I'm assuming a few days testing testing then the race?

[Autech]

Some of that aggression might have been appropriate off the bike. When Biaggi slapped his face he should have responded by kicking Biaggi in the nuts.

What nuts? Didn't Rossi take them years ago when he made him his bitch :cry:

I never saw this face slapping incident (I've missed a lot of shit) I will have to look it up.

[Reckless]

Reading on The GP site DP's new crew chiefs comments looks like he wants to push him a bit harder.
At least he's had the balls to call it like it is :)

Do you think Dani will be a title contender this year?
"The key for Dani to be champion is to be a little more aggressive. Last year he made good races from middle distance to the end. The regulations help the Open riders to be ahead in the opening laps, he is not so aggressive and being lighter it is harder for him to warm the tyres at the beginning, he just needs four or five laps to be on the pace, when others get on it in the second. That's where we need to improve, to be more aggressive at first, so I don’t know whether or not he’ll win, but for sure he will have more chance."

Still not sure if he has Moto Gp champ in him tho??

[pritch]

I never saw this face slapping incident (I've missed a lot of shit) I will have to look it up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfC28H3ria8

[Arctic Wolfe]

Honda is ready ..... bring it on !

For many riders and teams, topping the timesheet was less a concern than acclimating to new or updated machines, regaining confidence at speed and completing rigorous test schedules. Marquez and Pedrosa were both quick from the start, though this was to be expected considering the strength of the RC213V and the two riders over the past seasons. ... :nya:

HRC brought along a number of versions of the bike and on Day 1 Marquez and Pedrosa were charged with testing the various machines to decide which ones to develop through the subsequent days.

Marquez was the workhorse on Day 2, logging the most laps of any other rider on track, sorting the electronics, suspension and geometry settings. Pedrosa focused on similar issues during his testing and both riders saw lap times improve on Day 2 and Day 3.

[Autech]

Reading on The GP site DP's new crew chiefs comments looks like he wants to push him a bit harder.
At least he's had the balls to call it like it is :)

Do you think Dani will be a title contender this year?
"The key for Dani to be champion is to be a little more aggressive. Last year he made good races from middle distance to the end. The regulations help the Open riders to be ahead in the opening laps, he is not so aggressive and being lighter it is harder for him to warm the tyres at the beginning, he just needs four or five laps to be on the pace, when others get on it in the second. That's where we need to improve, to be more aggressive at first, so I don’t know whether or not he’ll win, but for sure he will have more chance."

Still not sure if he has Moto Gp champ in him tho??

It's just what Dani needed (crew chief change), he knows how to be a champ definitely, he has come so close so many times (I thought he had it 2013)... Just needs the right team behind him that knows his quirks and can make him work for them. As a die hard Pedrosa fan though I would say that though wouldn't I!

Hurry up Qatar!

[pritch]

It didn't influence the selections of my MCN Fantasy Team, but I do note that in China this is the year of the goat. And no, I don't mean Carmichael:bleh:

[roogazza]

It didn't influence the selections of my MCN Fantasy Team, but I do note that in China this is the year of the goat. And no, I don't mean Carmichael:bleh:

The year of the goat ! I like it, "10 World Titles" has a nice ring to it.
He's costing me a lot of money,been travelling to GPs for ten years now.But its been worth every cent ! Go Vale !

[Crasherfromwayback]

Loving the pic.

309019

[pritch]

Wrong thread I know, but WSBK testing is underway in Phillip Island with the races on the 22nd.

There must be a lead-in programme because coverage starts at 10.10AM and looks like it pretty much goes from there until 5.30PM on SKY sport 6. I'll have to get in some supplies. :drinkup:

[speights_bud]

Ducati reveal GP15.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/Ducati+introduces+Desmosedici+GP15+model

Looks like someone smacked it in the face with a 4x2. It's probably the TT style bubble which makes it look that way.

[imdying]

Looks like someone smacked it in the face with a 4x2. It's probably the TT style bubble which makes it look that way.Looking more like a Polini minmoto every year.

[Reckless]

Ducati reveal GP15.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/Ducati+introduces+Desmosedici+GP15+model

Looks like someone smacked it in the face with a 4x2. It's probably the TT style bubble which makes it look that way.

Yeh but what are the actual changes? LOL Whats the engine configuration like, etc etc
Cant wait to see how it goes? I hope its up there not in neverland between the open bikes and leaders or fast till the soft tyres fuck out.

[Drew]

Early in the piece it sounded like the wheelbase was shorter. But then the issue is confused when they wank on about cosmetic changes.

[Reckless]

Early in the piece it sounded like the wheelbase was shorter. But then the issue is confused when they wank on about cosmetic changes.

Guaranteed they've moved the engine but is it still 90° V? That would be a big change for them?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Guaranteed they've moved the engine but is it still 90° V? That would be a big change for them?

Bound to be. Works ok for Honda.

[merv]

The photos have people pointing to the back cylinders being where they ought to be like a Honda V4.

I reckon this bike could be good, given how close they were getting with the old design, but I'm not sure that Dovi and Joe can cut it with the top 4 to get the wins they want.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The photos have people pointing to the back cylinders being where they ought to be like a Honda V4.

I reckon this bike could be good, given how close they were getting with the old design, but I'm not sure that Dovi and Joe can cut it with the top 4 to get the wins they want.

Think Crazy Joe's got it in him. Dovi may win one in the wet.

[Reckless]

The photos have people pointing to the back cylinders being where they ought to be like a Honda V4.

I reckon this bike could be good, given how close they were getting with the old design, but I'm not sure that Dovi and Joe can cut it with the top 4 to get the wins they want.

Personally like to see Rossi get 10 :)
I dont think he wants it because its 10 he just wants to win.
But Dovi and Joe could compete with DP. With a damn good bike maybe the other 3. I have a good feeling about this bike and the changed attitude in the Ducati camp. Maybe Audi told them Gigi is their last chance and to get their shit together or its over.

Finally google found this

http://www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/new-motogp-ducati-engine-apes-honda-layout

Close up pics

http://www.bikesportnews.com/galleries/album/ducati-desmosedici-gp15-motogp

[Mental Trousers]

Some differences between the GP14 and GP15

http://ultimatemotorcycling.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2014-ducati-gp14-unveiling-munich-audi-3.jpg

http://www.bikesportnews.com/uploads/gallery_images/35247/12-ducati_motgp_team_2015_57_iannone__large.jpg

http://shane.org.nz/stuff/gp15_over_gp14.gif

Third image is the GP15 overlaid on the GP14 so that the axles align


the frame beams don't form a line between the steering head and the rear axle on the GP15
the swingarm appears to be longer on the GP15 so the engine must be shorter
exhaust is routed differently and you can see the shock so the engine must be shorter
the gearbox still looks be in the same position as the GP14
the distance between the bottom engine mount and swingarm mount appears to be larger
where the external starter attaches to the crank is further forward on the GP15
the steering head is slightly lower
the pegs/seat/bars relationship is almost the same, except the bars are a little lower

Need to see pics of it with it's fairings off to find more differences.

[Autech]

Think Crazy Joe's got it in him. Dovi may win one in the wet.

Providing he stays on the bike.



But Dovi and Joe could compete with DP. With a damn good bike maybe the other 3. I have a good feeling about this bike and the changed attitude in the Ducati camp. Maybe Audi told them Gigi is their last chance and to get their shit together or its over.

http://www.bikesportnews.com/galleries/album/ducati-desmosedici-gp15-motogp

Dunno bout Dovi, he had the same bike as Dani for years and was behind for most (if not all) of it. That said he put in some solid finishes last year so maybe he like the Ducati, certainly was better that Crutchlow.

Lets hope the Ducati is good on all tyres, be good to see it back up there without Stoner on board.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Providing he stays on the bike.



.

The age old saying of you can (normally) teach a fast guy to stop crashing...but a slow guy...

[Drew]

Providing he stays on the bike.



Dunno bout Dovi, he had the same bike as Dani for years and was behind for most (if not all) of it. That said he put in some solid finishes last year so maybe he like the Ducati, certainly was better that Crutchlow.

Lets hope the Ducati is good on all tyres, be good to see it back up there without Stoner on board.
Ummm, Dovi on a factory Honda was always there or there about. The only year he rode the bike there were two occasions of the whole podium being Repsol Honda I think.

Could be wrong about the podium thing, but Do I has got the goods no question.

[pritch]

There has been an announcement overnight that Troy Bayliss will ride on Sunday in place of the injured Guigliano.

[pritch]

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/02/17/analyzing_the_ducati_desmosedici_gp15_sm.html

[sil3nt]

So sommet sports have the rights to MotoGP this year yet they don't have the funding to broadcast.

Anyone donated to them? https://www.pledgeme.co.nz/projects/3149-sommet-strikes-back

Quite a few MotoGP fans on their Facebook page but less than 300 donations over all.

[denill]

So sommet sports have the rights to MotoGP this year yet they don't have the funding to broadcast.

Anyone donated to them? https://www.pledgeme.co.nz/projects/3149-sommet-strikes-back

Quite a few MotoGP fans on their Facebook page but less than 300 donations over all.

If they will definitely show MotoGP I will fund them the $150 it would cost to get Dorna. I know, which comes first, the chicken or the egg.

[sil3nt]

If they will definitely show MotoGP I will fund them the $150 it would cost to get Dorna. I know, which comes first, the chicken or the egg.They have said they will show MotoGP if they get funded. They only take your donation if they meet the goal of $300,000 and they are a long way from that.

[Badjelly]

They have said they will show MotoGP if they get funded. They only take your donation if they meet the goal of $300,000 and they are a long way from that.

Have they said that? I've pledged $30 and would go higher if I was confident of getting MotoGP.

As I understand it, the $300,000 they're aiming for will get them on-line only and maybe with a small fee (on top of the donations). That's fine by me, but why would Dorna sell rights to Sommet to broadcast MotoGP online and compete with Dorna's package, which some people (myself included) are silly enough to pay 100 Euros for?

It's all probably irrelevant, as after 4-5 days, with 22 days left to go, they have only $24,518 (8.2%) of the $300,000 they're asking for. Apparently there have been two "sponsor" pledges, at $20,000 a pop, which means the other 288 of us have come up with a rather underwhelming $4,518.

https://www.pledgeme.co.nz/projects/3149-sommet-strikes-back

So my opinion (happy to be proved wrong) is that this has as much chance of happening as MotoGP at Hampton Downs. Looking on the bright side, you can pledge as much as you want, as the pledges are unlikely to be called in.

In other news, Dorna has MotoGP packages for 75 Euros. I think I might grab one.

[sil3nt]

Have they said that? I've pledged $30 and would go higher if I was confident of getting MotoGP.

As I understand it, the $300,000 they're aiming for will get them on-line only and maybe with a small fee (on top of the donations). That's fine by me, but why would Dorna sell rights to Sommet to broadcast MotoGP online and compete with Dorna's package, which some people (myself included) are silly enough to pay 100 Euros for?

It's all probably irrelevant, as after 4-5 days, with 22 days left to go, they have only $24,518 (8.2%) of the $300,000 they're asking for. Apparently there have been two "sponsor" pledges, at $20,000 a pop, which means the other 288 of us have come up with a rather underwhelming $4,518.

https://www.pledgeme.co.nz/projects/3149-sommet-strikes-back

So my opinion (happy to be proved wrong) is that this has as much chance of happening as MotoGP at Hampton Downs. Looking on the bright side, you can pledge as much as you want, as the pledges are unlikely to be called in.

In other news, Dorna has MotoGP packages for 75 Euros. I think I might grab one.People have asked in comments and they have replied saying they will show it if they get funded. I think the fundraising hasn't gone so well because people don't actually know what they are going to show if they do get the money.

The online pass seems the way to go.

[Drew]

Fuck it, I'll just download it the day after.

[pritch]

I see that the (very) young Mr Quatararo spent most of the last couple of days at the top of the Moto3 time sheets. Not bad for a rookie. The force is strong in this one.

[Autech]

I see that the (very) young Mr Quatararo spent most of the last couple of days at the top of the Moto3 time sheets. Not bad for a rookie. The force is strong in this one.

Is he the one they changed the rules for? (Sounding like someone else we know...)

[denill]

They have said they will show MotoGP if they get funded. They only take your donation if they meet the goal of $300,000 and they are a long way from that.

Oh well, put my money where my mouth is and pledged $150.00 Don't like their chances but if everyone sits on the fence, like I was, it will NEVER happen. :mellow:

[Oscar]

Oh well, put my money where my mouth is and pledged $150.00 Don't like their chances but if everyone sits on the fence, like I was, it will NEVER happen. :mellow:

? Why wouldn't you just buy a MotoGP.com pass?

[Crasherfromwayback]

? Why wouldn't you just buy a MotoGP.com pass?

Exactly. Far better coverage anyway...of all classes and qual sessions etc etc...

[denill]

? Why wouldn't you just buy a MotoGP.com pass?

Good question: I was going down that track (Probably still will) but I like what they are trying to do. ;)

[Mental Trousers]

? Why wouldn't you just buy a MotoGP.com pass?


Exactly. Far better coverage anyway...of all classes and qual sessions etc etc...


Good question: I was going down that track (Probably still will) but I like what they are trying to do. ;)

Cos getting Sommet broadcasting again gets you more than just MotoGP??

[Crasherfromwayback]

Cos getting Sommet broadcasting again gets you more than just MotoGP??

I hear ya...and I'm all for them. But IF it's basically Moto GP you're after...tis a no brainer.

[denill]

I hear ya...and I'm all for them. But IF it's basically Moto GP you're after...tis a no brainer.

I expect that if they do get off the ground we will get more Moto coverage, like AMA MX etc. if they don't get off the ground, it doesn't cost me. So I reckon it's a good punt...... :yes:

[Reckless]

Slicknick torrents for AMA he's bloody brilliant and the racing has been good :) Which makes them reliable finding them for the other sports is a bit tough.
I might add WSBK to my MotoGP registration this year?? Its fairly cheap compared to MotoGP.

[speights_bud]

FYI, for those with a playstation 3, Motogp14 is on sale in the online store for download at $17 or thereabouts.

[speights_bud]

And as for Sommet, have you actually read the pledge pages? I think you'll find they need much more than 300k to get it back on freeview HD

[speights_bud]

From the link:


What do we need?

We're looking to crowdfund $300,000 to get back up and running, and ensure that we have a sustainable model for the future. This includes setting ourselves back up on the internet, hiring part of our team back, and working on the partnerships we have in train. If we raise $500,000 we'll go on Freeview HD, and at $1.2 million we'll be available on every TV.

[Pumba]

From the link:


What do we need?

We're looking to crowdfund $300,000 to get back up and running, and ensure that we have a sustainable model for the future. This includes setting ourselves back up on the internet, hiring part of our team back, and working on the partnerships we have in train. If we raise $500,000 we'll go on Freeview HD, and at $1.2 million we'll be available on every TV.

And $500k will only get you 42hours on the weekend of freeview broadcast (so the wont be MGP).

Personally I dont think they have a chance, or a sustainable business model(why else would they not be able to attract coperate investor). It is shame because it was a good channel.

[speights_bud]

My thoughts exactly, they've already had a chance to make it work. And now they have the cheek to ask for us to put our hands in our pockets for 'free sport for kiwis'.

What happens when the pledge $$ runs out? (assuming they get enough). The channel is a nice idea. But if I recall correctly lots of people bitched about live sport double ups, moto3 getting chopped in half etc etc. You get what you pay for...

[BMWST?]

My thoughts exactly, they've already had a chance to make it work. And now they have the cheek to ask for us to put our hands in our pockets for 'free sport for kiwis'.

What happens when the pledge $$ runs out? (assuming they get enough). The channel is a nice idea. But if I recall correctly lots of people bitched about live sport double ups, moto3 getting chopped in half etc etc. You get what you pay for...

if ya dont want to pledge your money thats fine.Lets get back on thread eh....Mr rossi fastest so far sepang test 2 Mr MarqueZ down in 5th or so...Both Suzukis in top ten

MotoGP Sepang Test2 2015Session 1 as of 16:22 - 23/02/2015 - Local Time

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Pos

Rider
Team
Fastest lap
Lead. Gap
Prev. Gap
Laps
Last lap


1

ROSSI, Valentino
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
2:00.414


25 / 43
1:16.238


2

PEDROSA, Dani
Repsol Honda Team
2:00.543
0.129
0.129
20 / 38
1:09.339


3

ESPARGARO, Pol
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
2:00.876
0.462
0.333
17 / 33
1:08.204


4

ESPARGARO, Aleix
Team Suzuki MotoGP
2:01.055
0.641
0.179
17 / 29
1:09.989


5

LORENZO, Jorge
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
2:01.162
0.748
0.107
37 / 45
1:11.021


6

MARQUEZ, Marc
Repsol Honda Team
2:01.190
0.776
0.028
24 / 43
1:29.618


7

CRUTCHLOW, Cal
CWM LCR Honda
2:01.222
0.808
0.032
13 / 31
3:14:42.846


8

SMITH, Bradley
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
2:01.241
0.827
0.019
22 / 37
1:11.162


9

VIÑALES, Maverick
Team Suzuki MotoGP
2:01.317
0.903
0.076
22 / 41
2:20.853


10

DOVIZIOSO, Andrea
Ducati Team
2:01.355
0.941
0.038
5 / 23
1:11.519


11

REDDING, Scott
Estrella Galicia 0.0 Marc VDS
2:01.592
1.178
0.237
31 / 39
1:08.434


12

BAUTISTA, Alvaro
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
2:01.740
1.326
0.148
29 / 37
1:07.896


13

BARBERA, Hector
Avintia Racing
2:01.926
1.512
0.186
6 / 39
1:04.076


14

HAYDEN, Nicky
Drive M7 Aspar
2:02.062
1.648
0.136
26 / 32
1:14.461


15

IANNONE, Andrea
Ducati Team
2:02.142
1.728
0.080
16 / 30
1:25.692


16

PETRUCCI, Danilo
Pramac Racing
2:02.225
1.811
0.083
9 / 35
2:17.914


17

ABRAHAM, Karel
AB Motoracing
2:02.394
1.980
0.169
26 / 28
1:08.650


18

BRADL, Stefan
Forward Racing Team
2:02.410
1.996
0.016
19 / 37
2:51.485


19

HERNANDEZ, Yonny
Pramac Racing
2:02.606
2.192
0.196
24 / 29
1:07.232


20

LAVERTY, Eugene
Drive M7 Aspar
2:02.730
2.316
0.124
28 / 35
1:16.412


21

DI MEGLIO, Mike
Avintia Racing
2:02.941
2.527
0.211
23 / 33
2:14.138


22

MILLER, Jack
CWM LCR Honda
2:03.006
2.592
0.065
23 / 26
41:33.307


23

PIRRO, Michele
Ducati Test Team
2:03.105
2.691
0.099
33 / 35
2:20.402


24

BAZ, Loris
Forward Racing Team
2:03.316
2.902
0.211
28 / 37
1:11.415


25

NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki
Yamaha Factory Test Team
2:03.337
2.923
0.021
24 / 37
2:15.470


26

DE ANGELIS, Alex
Octo Ioda Racing Team
2:03.966
3.552
0.629
8 / 36
1:14.602


27

MELANDRI, Marco
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
2:04.000
3.586
0.034
29 / 35
1:13.181

</tbody>

[denill]

<a href=http://www.crash.net/motogp/results/214945/1/sepang-ii-motogp-test-times-monday-final.html>Interesting From Sepang:</A> :woohoo:
1. = Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 2m 0.414s [Lap 25/54]
2. = Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 0.543s +0.129s [20/52]
3. = Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 0.876s +0.462s [17/45]
4. = Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki MotoGP (GSX-RR) 2m 1.055s +0.641s [17/39]
5. = Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 2m 1.162s +0.748s [37/51]
6. = Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 2m 1.190s +0.776s [24/43]
7. = Cal Crutchlow GBR CWM LCR Honda (RC213V) 2m 1.222s +0.808s [13/43]
8. = Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 2m 1.241s +0.827s [22/51]
9. = Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki MotoGP (GSX-RR)* 2m 1.317s +0.903s [22/50]
10. = Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP14.3/GP15) 2m 1.355s +0.941s [5/23]
11. = Scott Redding GBR Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 2m 1.592s +1.178s [31/52]
12. = Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 2m 1.740s +1.326s [29/51]
13. = Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14 Open) 2m 1.926s +1.512s [6/39]
14. = Nicky Hayden USA Drive M7 Aspar (RC213V-RS) 2m 2.062s +1.648s [26/41]
15. = Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP14.3/GP15) 2m 2.142s +1.728s [16/30]
16. = Danilo Petrucci ITA Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP14.1) 2m 2.225s +1.811s [9/35]
17. = Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (RC213V-RS) 2m 2.394s +1.980s [26/28]
18. = Stefan Bradl GER Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha) 2m 2.410s +1.996s [19/42]
19. = Yonny Hernandez COL Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 2m 2.606s +2.192s [24/29]
20. = Eugene Laverty IRL Drive M7 Aspar Honda (RC213V-RS)* 2m 2.730s +2.316s [28/45]
21. = Mike Di Meglio FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14 Open) 2m 2.941s +2.527s [23/33]
22. = Jack Miller AUS CWM LCR Honda (RC213V-RS)* 2m 3.006s +2.592s [23/35]
23. = Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Test Rider (Desmosedici) 2m 3.105s +2.691s [33/35]
24. = Loris Baz FRA Forward Racing (Forward Yamaha)* 2m 3.316s +2.902s [28/37]
25. = Katsuyuki Nakasuga JPN Yamaha Test Rider (YZR-M1) 2m 3.337s +2.923s [24/43]
26. = Alex De Angelis RSM Octo IodaRacing (ART) 2m 3.966s +3.552s [8/45]
27. = Marco Melandri ITA Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 2m 4.000s +3.586s [29/42]

[Drew]

Milandri doesn't have what it takes to ride at GP level, send him back to superbike.

[pritch]

Milandri doesn't have what it takes to ride at GP level, send him back to superbike.

The only problem I have with that comment is the memory I have of watching him win a GP at Phillip Island.

To answer a question someone asked, yes, Quatararo is the one they changed the rules for.

Overnight a certain elderly gent seemed to be playing head games again. He said that the SKY VR46 team members pick somebody they think will win the title. He picked Quartararo. This may have been intended as motivation for his riders who presumably pick themselves. He also said that while he thought Quartararo capable of winning the title, he didn't expect him to top the sheets at the first test. He also referred to Quartararo as "the new Marquez" and added that Marquez should be worried about him.

Can't see MM being worried about anything much yet though.

I don't think I mentioned this before? Casey was posting pictures of what I presumed to be his newest model racing car, a Ferrari sports car painted black with yellow - and the number 46.
Somewhat surprising I thought.

[denill]

I don't think I mentioned this before? Casey was posting pictures of what I presumed to be his newest model racing car, a Ferrari sports car painted black with yellow - and the number 46.
Somewhat surprising I thought.

I know. He's going to drive it over a cliff. :bleh:

[Reckless]

Sum up of testing off the GP site for those that don't belong.

Cant help thinking that MM was testing something that didnt work and he'll be back to fastest soon.
Those Suzuki's did well :)
The New Ducati didn't :(

test Sepang2 Day1 middle day report
Sepang Test 2 Day 1 – Midday report
Monday, 23 February 2015
After the first few hours at a boiling hot Sepang International Circuit it was Movistar Yamaha’s Valentino Rossi who topped the time sheets.
His time of 2’00.414 putting him 0.129 seconds ahead of his closest nearest rival, Repsol Honda’s Dani Pedrosa. The 9 times World Champion set the time on lap 25 of 32, seemingly benefitting from the upgraded seamless shift gearbox that his team have brought to the test. Yamaha wouldn’t confirm whether they have brought a “full” seamless shift gearbox to Malaysia, instead saying that this is an “evolution” of the one they were previously using.

Pedrosa, having settled on his choice of bike last month at Sepang 1, spent the morning fine tuning his setup before putting in his fastest time of the morning, 6 tenths of a second faster than his Repsol Honda teammate Marquez down in 6th.

The Monster Tech 3 Yamaha bike of Pol Espargaro was 3rd fastest, 0.462s behind Rossi, with the Spaniard focusing on fine tuning his electronics package in the morning and he obviously found the right setting as he was consistently lapping under the 2’02 mark.

The big surprise of the morning was the pace of his older brother Aleix on the Suzuki factory bike, as he managed to finish 4th, making the most out a new fairing that they have been developing in Japan, and some engine updates to address their previous lack of power.

Lorenzo finished 7 tenths off his teammate Rossi by the end of the morning, after putting in more laps than anyone else (44) as he adjusted to the gearbox and how it affects breaking stability, ending up 5th fastest.

Surprisingly the double World Champion Marc Marquez could only manage a 2’01.190, which was almost 2.3 seconds slower than his record breaking time from the first test, which left him 5th fastest in the through the morning and only 3 hundredths of a second ahead of 7th placed Cal Crutchlow.

The Brit on his CWM-LCR RC213V, seems to be getting to grips with the more aggressive riding style needed to get the most out of the Honda as he showed the kind of pace that could make him a serious podium contender for the season, and will be very happy with his efforts in the first morning of the test.

Bradley Smith was less than 2 hundredths of a second behind Crutchlow, as he continues his recovery from an ankle injury, with the second factory Suzuki of Maverick Viñales in 9th, 0.9s off the top.

Ducati unveiled their highly anticipated GP15 bike at the test, with riders Andrea Dovizioso and Andrea Iannone riding it back to back with the GP14.3 bike they used at Sepang 1. Dovizioso looked to adapt to the newer, smaller bike slightly better than his teammate finishing the morning in 10th 0.8 seconds ahead of Iannone who was back in 15th.

Scott Redding used this morning to test out some new brake updates and trying to find the optimal chassis set up for his Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS RC213V. He seemed to gain in confidence as the time went on, and will be pleased with his lap that put him into 11th place, just 1.1 seconds slower than Rossi.

The Aprilia Racing Team Gresini continued their development of the RS-GP bike by bringing an evolution of the machine used in the last test and it was good enough for Alvaro Bautista to grab 12th just behind the Avintia Racing Ducati of Hector Barbera.

[Mental Trousers]

The New Ducati didn't :(

.....

Ducati unveiled their highly anticipated GP15 bike at the test, with riders Andrea Dovizioso and Andrea Iannone riding it back to back with the GP14.3 bike they used at Sepang 1. Dovizioso looked to adapt to the newer, smaller bike slightly better than his teammate finishing the morning in 10th 0.8 seconds ahead of Iannone who was back in 15th.


It's the first time they've ridden it. They've already logged more time on it than the test rider has I think (he got to take it for a spin a few days ago to make sure nothing fell off and also did a few laps on the test day before Dovi and Crazy Joe). Unrealistic expectations to think it'll do better than it has with only about 1/2 a days testing.

[Reckless]

It's the first time they've ridden it. They've already logged more time on it than the test rider has I think (he got to take it for a spin a few days ago to make sure nothing fell off and also did a few laps on the test day before Dovi and Crazy Joe). Unrealistic expectations to think it'll do better than it has with only about 1/2 a days testing.

Fair enough comments there :)

[Luckylegs]

Milandri doesn't have what it takes to ride at GP level, send him back to superbike.

Nah! He'll be sweet... He's bluffing them. You wait!

GO MARCO!!!!!!

[Reckless]

Good read I got off a mate on FB.
Did you read it first MT LOL :P

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/2015-motogp-sepang-2-test-preview/

Tyre comments at the end interesting too :)


The Marco bit
Marco Melandri looked like a man who would rather be anywhere than riding Aprilia’s MotoGP bike, and ended the test dead last, behind the Open bikes, behind the factory test riders, and even behind Alex De Angelis on the Ioda Racing Aprilia ART, the much older and much slower version of Aprilia’s MotoGP machine.
Melandri will have to turn himself around, before he can work on improving the bike.


MM Brake issues today ( from another source)
Marc Marquez:

"Today was a slightly strange day and not very productive, because I had some difficulties with the front brakes from the first run-out. We focused on improving that aspect of the bike and could only do runs of one or two laps. That took up the time we had allotted for trying other things and prevented us from progressing. Now we will try to find the source of the problem and tomorrow we hope to continue with the testing plan

[Mental Trousers]

Good read I got off a mate on FB.
Did you read it first MT LOL :P

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/2015-motogp-sepang-2-test-preview/


Saw that a couple of days ago. Pretty much says the same thing - it hasn't been tested yet. Although it turns out the Andrea's did get to ride it on the Monday, not just Pirro like the article says.

[Autech]

Milandri doesn't have what it takes to ride at GP level, send him back to superbike.


The only problem I have with that comment is the memory I have of watching him win a GP at Phillip Island.


When I first started watching Motogp it was when Melandri was on the sole Kawasaki, I remember watching him put in some impressive finishes on what was by far an inferior bike. That's where my fanship of him started, which moved with him to WSBK as he went from Yamaha to BMW then Aprillia finally.
I do wonder if he should have stuck with WSBK though, he definitely would have had one hell of a shot of winning the title this year.

He was off the pace on the Aprilia superbike at the beginning of 2014 in WSBK, but never to the tune of 2 or 3 seconds a lap behind his team mate and eventually he mastered the bike and got her moving well. Wonder what exactly his issue is with the bike? I've done some googling but the most I can find out is he doesn't like the tyres or something. As it stands were he to enter a race today he would get lapped by most the field and possibly his team mate.

Fantastic to see the Suzuki's up there, I love Aleix Espagaro's riding and it would be great to see what he could do on an equal machine as the big boys, I think he's got what it takes. If Suzuki is reading this, you have two of the best riders riding for you, so give em a fucking good bike please.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Casey was posting pictures of what I presumed to be his newest model racing car, a Ferrari sports car painted black with yellow - and the number 46.
Somewhat surprising I thought.

He'll voodoo dolly that thing.

[Shaun Harris]

04:22
UK Time
Dovizioso looks to have underlined yesterday's strong first impressions of the new Ducati - now up to 3rd, 0.4s from Marquez

[pritch]

Vinales has turned heads with his performance on the Suzuki.

Rossi says the new Ducati is quick, the riders say it turns, so much so that initially Dovizioso was hitting the curb on the inside of the corner. Rossi says the Duc will be faster with the soft rubber in qualifying.

Milandri posted a rather difficult to understand comment about his ride. Difficult but definitely negative. So far the only comment is in Italian but he may be in danger of losing his ride. His SBK ride is gone because his replacement is quick.

Crutchlow and Hayden are making hopeful noises.

[Mental Trousers]

Milandri posted a rather difficult to understand comment about his ride. Difficult but definitely negative. So far the only comment is in Italian but he may be in danger of losing his ride. His SBK ride is gone because his replacement is quick.

About the only thing I've seen so far is that he's not comfortable on the bike, it doesn't feel right. But in vague, motorbike racer English that could mean anything.

[Reckless]

His SBK ride is gone because his replacement is quick.

Watched Philip Island last night OMG damn good racing almost like Moto3 but on superbikes. :)

[Drew]

About the only thing I've seen so far is that he's not comfortable on the bike, it doesn't feel right. But in vague, motorbike racer English that could mean anything.

I'm sure that many riders could give better feedback, and faster lap times on the same bike.

[Shaun Harris]

Vinales has turned heads with his performance on the Suzuki.

Rossi says the new Ducati is quick, the riders say it turns, so much so that initially Dovizioso was hitting the curb on the inside of the corner. Rossi says the Duc will be faster with the soft rubber in qualifying.

Milandri posted a rather difficult to understand comment about his ride. Difficult but definitely negative. So far the only comment is in Italian but he may be in danger of losing his ride. His SBK ride is gone because his replacement is quick.

Crutchlow and Hayden are making hopeful noises.

" Maverick" V---- Love his name and form, have some flash backs to his awsome race craft last season in Moto2- He deff has that bit of Special in him. He is gunna rock on the Suzuki this year

[Shaun Harris]

About the only thing I've seen so far is that he's not comfortable on the bike, it doesn't feel right. But in vague, motorbike racer English that could mean anything.



Just sit back and watch him do his thing come race day, he has always been a CRAP test rider. He cannot shadow box, but sure can deal with a real fight

[Autech]

" Maverick" V---- Love his name and form, have some flash backs to his awsome race craft last season in Moto2- He deff has that bit of Special in him. He is gunna rock on the Suzuki this year

He sure has some skills on two wheels. Like I said Suzuki have 2 of the best riders in the paddock, if they give them the bike they will kick some arse.


Just sit back and watch him do his thing come race day, he has always been a CRAP test rider. He cannot shadow box, but sure can deal with a real fight

He sure knows how to duke it out. I do love watching the speed he can carry on the front under brakes into the corner, looks awesome watching him suck up the gap to the rider in front.

[carbonhed]

I'm praying the GP15 is good enough to let Iannone get into and around Marquez on a regular basis. That will be worth watching :lol:

[Oscar]

They have said they will show MotoGP if they get funded. They only take your donation if they meet the goal of $300,000 and they are a long way from that.

As of 1pm today there were still negiotiations going on between Dorna and a major NZ corporation around live streaming of motogp.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm praying the GP15 is good enough to let Iannone get into and around Marquez on a regular basis. That will be worth watching :lol:

You'd pay to see that. Know I would.

[Reckless]

Screen grab of MotoGP live timing.

MM still has them by the balls by .322 but they are closer?
Crutchlow is liking the Honda :) Innone is liking the Ducati :) Espargaro on the Suzi only a second off the pace and ahead of Dovi.
Early days yet though, 6 hours + to go, if you want me to post another up later tonight I will??

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[Mental Trousers]

Just sit back and watch him do his thing come race day, he has always been a CRAP test rider. He cannot shadow box, but sure can deal with a real fight

It's funny cos one the reasons Aprillia put him on that bike is for his skills as a development rider. I guess he really only develops the bike when it's business time, not testing time.

[Autech]

Excellent sign that the Suzuki's are now able to lap faster than the satellite Yamaha's. Keep those fingers crossed that the bike might turn out to be half decent come Qatar.

Does anyone know if they are getting the same concessions as the Ducati's, ie the softer tyre?

[Shaun Harris]

It's funny cos one the reasons Aprillia put him on that bike is for his skills as a development rider. I guess he really only develops the bike when it's business time, not testing time.


MY BAD, my comment was directed at Crutchlow

[Shaun Harris]

Excellent sign that the Suzuki's are now able to lap faster than the satellite Yamaha's. Keep those fingers crossed that the bike might turn out to be half decent come Qatar.

Does anyone know if they are getting the same concessions as the Ducati's, ie the softer tyre?


Yes they are! Come qatar they will have more HP also, so will be faster down the shoots

[denill]

02:38
UK Time Top six: Marquez, Crutchlow, Lorenzo, Iannone, Pedrosa, Rossi.

[denill]

02:26
UK Time Crutchlow is 0.6s clear of the field. Great lap by the Briton and the fastest of the week so far.

[denill]

As of 1pm today there were still negiotiations going on between Dorna and a major NZ corporation around live streaming of motogp.
Source? Any idea who?

[Reckless]

The so called live timing on the GP site shows exactly what I posted an hour ago ??? LOL

[BMWST?]

Melandri NEEDS a bike with front grip from hell...its why he could never ride the understeering duc,and why it took him half a season to get to grips the the rsv4,once he trusts the front..look out

[BMWST?]

couple of hours to go session 3

MotoGP Sepang 2015Session 3 as of 06/02/2015http://css.motogp.com/img/inv.gif?version=2015-02-23.r024e8b09a0 Combined days (http://resources.motogp.com/files/testresults/2015_MotoGP_Test__Sepang_combined_3.pdf?version=14 23217413)http://css.motogp.com/img/inv.gif?version=2015-02-23.r024e8b09a0 Analysis (http://resources.motogp.com/files/testresults/2015_MotoGP_Test__Sepang_analysis_3.pdf?version=14 23217392)http://css.motogp.com/img/inv.gif?version=2015-02-23.r024e8b09a0 Classification (http://resources.motogp.com/files/testresults/2015_MotoGP_Test__Sepang_classification_3.pdf?vers ion=1423217375)


<tbody style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background: transparent;">
Pos

Rider
Team
Fastest lap
Lead. Gap
Prev. Gap
Laps
Last lap




1

MARQUEZ, Marc
Repsol Honda Team
1:58.867


8 / 52





2

PEDROSA, Dani
Repsol Honda Team
1:59.006
0.139
0.139
11 / 41





3

IANNONE, Andrea
Ducati Team
1:59.388
0.521
0.382
11 / 47





4

ROSSI, Valentino
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
1:59.401
0.534
0.013
11 / 49





5

LORENZO, Jorge
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
1:59.624
0.757
0.223
12 / 55





6

ESPARGARO, Pol
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
1:59.851
0.984
0.227
8 / 50





7

DOVIZIOSO, Andrea
Ducati Team
1:59.874
1.007
0.023
5 / 33





8

BRADL, Stefan
Forward Racing Team
2:00.294
1.427
0.420
10 / 49





9

SMITH, Bradley
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
2:00.384
1.517
0.090
26 / 50





10

ESPARGARO, Aleix
Team Suzuki MotoGP
2:00.486
1.619
0.102
13 / 36





11

CRUTCHLOW, Cal
CWM LCR Honda
2:00.536
1.669
0.050
19 / 67





12

VIÑALES, Maverick
Team Suzuki MotoGP
2:00.964
2.097
0.428
12 / 51





13

PETRUCCI, Danilo
Pramac Racing
2:00.970
2.103
0.006
11 / 48





14

AOYAMA, Hiroshi
HRC
2:01.029
2.162
0.059
6 / 46





15

BARBERA, Hector
Avintia Racing
2:01.183
2.316
0.154
27 / 57





16

PIRRO, Michele
Pramac Racing
2:01.232
2.365
0.049
10 / 56





17

REDDING, Scott
Estrella Galicia 0.0 Marc VDS
2:01.263
2.396
0.031
65 / 67





18

HAYDEN, Nicky
Drive M7 Aspar
2:01.508
2.641
0.245
13 / 52





19

BAZ, Loris
Forward Racing Team
2:01.624
2.757
0.116
6 / 46





20

MILLER, Jack
CWM LCR Honda
2:01.895
3.028
0.271
3 / 50





21

BAUTISTA, Alvaro
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
2:01.924
3.057
0.029
60 / 63





22

DI MEGLIO, Mike
Avintia Racing
2:02.128
3.261
0.204
48 / 49





23

ABRAHAM, Karel
AB Motoracing
2:02.297
3.430
0.169
18 / 43





24

LAVERTY, Eugene
Drive M7 Aspar
2:02.334
3.467
0.037
55 / 57





25

NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki
Yamaha Factory Test Team
2:02.363
3.496
0.029
3 / 22





26

TAKAHASHI, Takumi
HRC
2:03.113
4.246
0.750
11 / 64





27

DE ANGELIS, Alex
Octo Ioda Racing Team
2:03.471
4.604
0.358
22 / 32





28

MELANDRI, Marco
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
2:03.641
4.774
0.170
61 / 61

</tbody>

[Shaun Harris]

Melandri NEEDS a bike with front grip from hell...its why he could never ride the understeering duc,and why it took him half a season to get to grips the the rsv4,once he trusts the front..look out



hahaha good luck with that one

[pritch]

02:26
UK Time Crutchlow is 0.6s clear of the field. Great lap by the Briton and the fastest of the week so far.

Ooooh if he keeps that up there'll be a few hereabout might have to change their tune. On the other hand I guess, if he doesn't keep it up he'll be running out of options.

Testing today will be Michelins on 17" rims apparently.

Mat Oxley was commenting overnight. He said Pedrosa is developing into a more interesting and amusing character than he ever was when he working under "Uncle Bert".

He also said Milandri's problems reminded him of a rider, apparently stuck with a dog of a bike, who pulled up, burst into tears and said, "I just can't do this anymore".
Apparently Milandris bike stopped for a mechanical fault in an area of the track where there were no marshals so he just lay the bike down and walked away. When a marshal eventually arrived the marshal sprayed the bike with a fire extinguisher. That'll have kept somebody in work.

[denill]

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2015/Feb/150225a.htm>Yeah, how about Crutchlow:</A>

[Crasherfromwayback]

Melandri NEEDS a bike with front grip from hell...its why he could never ride the understeering duc,and why it took him half a season to get to grips the the rsv4,once he trusts the front..look out

Not gonna happen. He's over.

[sil3nt]

Jack Miller and Loris Baz are a bit off the pace. Although 2 seconds over such a long lap probably isn't as bad as it seems.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Jack Miller .

Hope he gets sand kicked in his face.

[pritch]

Doesn't it just make yer wanna spew?

[sil3nt]

Hope he gets sand kicked in his face.:lol: That is how I feel about Baz.

[Shaun Harris]

Jack Miller and Loris Baz are a bit off the pace. Although 2 seconds over such a long lap probably isn't as bad as it seems.


I am more surprised about the pace from Baz than Miller, considering Baz has been riding 1000cc heavier bikes for a few years now. So to me, that is credit to Miller

[pritch]

I am more surprised about the pace from Baz than Miller, considering Baz has been riding 1000cc heavier bikes for a few years now. So to me, that is credit to Miller

Yeah, I didn't see the behaviour that upset some hereabout so I still want to see the kid do well. Anyway, I agree with what he is supposed to have said. Besides the jump from Moto3 to MotoGP is a radical experiment and as such is an interesting story.

It's a bit soon to be expecting Miller to be at the sharp end, at the start of winter testing they had all the electronic aids turned off so that he had to learn to ride a MotoGP bike properly, but I don't where they are at with that now. I must ask. He has that highy unusual three year contract with Honda, so they are taking the long view. I don't think anybody, with the exception of the odd KBer, is expecting immediate fireworks. Still, it'd be good to see.

Maybe Quartararo should have been signed direct to MotoGP? :innocent:

[Luckylegs]

Not gonna happen. He's over.

Dick! ...He'll be fine!

GO MARCO!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Dick! ...He'll be fine!

GO MARCO!

Well I've got two doz Steinlager that says he'll never finish top five this season. You?

[Luckylegs]

Well I've got two doz Steinlager that says he'll never finish top five this season. You?


Go on then
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hbt3fk5tWMc/U5fpZKWidaI/AAAAAAAAIqM/PLri9f0i5UU/s1600/smileys-shaking-hands.png

[Shaun Harris]

Dick! ...He'll be fine!

GO " HOME" MARCO! Fixed it for ya

[James Deuce]

Dick! ...He'll be fine!

GO MARCO!

Marco who?

[Luckylegs]

Marco who?

Well it wont very well be the 'Sideshow Bob' one now, will it?



RIP Marco (the other one)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Go on then
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Hbt3fk5tWMc/U5fpZKWidaI/AAAAAAAAIqM/PLri9f0i5UU/s1600/smileys-shaking-hands.png

Deliver them to me here at work if you will. :msn-wink:

[BMWST?]

Not gonna happen. He's over.I take you up on that. I say that if he is competing with AB he is on it?

[James Deuce]

I'm assuming it's Melandri. The only reason he's invited is his wife. It will be a shock if he isn't released early after being owned in the first few races.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I take you up on that. I say that if he is competing with AB he is on it?

Say what???

[Luckylegs]

I take you up on that. I say that if he is competing with AB he is on it?


Say what???

My first thought was artificial breeding but i guess he means alvaro

[James Deuce]

My first thought was artificial breeding but i guess he means alvaro

Has he had that eye fixed yet?