MotoGP 2015 [Archive] - Page 11

george formby

15th September 2015, 10:36

Believe me, as a Lorenzo fan, that hasn't escaped me.

I just don't recall Rossi being so tactically inept before.

I think he stayed out to try and gain an advantage on JL, it was either that or a race from the pits. Not the best call but the pressure told on JL so it was a better outcome in the end. Whichever way you chew it they were all playing high speed chess in the rain. Another WTF race.

Just my 2c from the armchair.

Kiwi Graham

15th September 2015, 12:40

Rossi wasnt racing Baz, he was racing Lorenzo ;)

Exactly.

A smart man racing a smart race, he could see he was gapping Lorenzo on shagged wets and played the waiting game, he was his only competition.

Shame Lorenzo's crew allowed his tyre to cool down too much, should have had a spotter at pit entrance advising when he was coming in and leaving the warmer on and bike ticking over. Would only of taken a second to pull it of and whip away the stand. Still they'll know for next time eh

Drew

15th September 2015, 13:47

Exactly.

A smart man racing a smart race, he could see he was gapping Lorenzo on shagged wets and played the waiting game, he was his only competition.

Shame Lorenzo's crew allowed his tyre to cool down too much, should have had a spotter at pit entrance advising when he was coming in and leaving the warmer on and bike ticking over. Would only of taken a second to pull it of and whip away the stand. Still they'll know for next time eh

What race did you watch? Because if Lorenzo hadn't biffed it he would have had a five second lead on Rossi at least.

jasonu

15th September 2015, 14:01

Rossi couldn't make the call. Rossi is fucking past it. Rossi got beat by Loris Baz.

and if he had kept pushing to beat Baz and binned it everyone would be saying what a thick cunt he is and shoulda settled for 5th...

pritch

15th September 2015, 14:17

And so hard for Rossi's cock smokers to admit he made a mistake :laugh:

He nearly doubled his lead in the championship, as mistakes go that ain't bad. And a whole lot better than Jorge's.

This morning JL posted a picture of himself grovelling in the gravel accompanied by this, "Crashes defeat weak people, but inspire tough people."
Seems a bit desperate?

James Deuce

15th September 2015, 14:26

What race did you watch? Because if Lorenzo hadn't biffed it he would have had a five second lead on Rossi at least.

I'd comment, but I'll just get shit from the thingy in your signature.

Kiwi Graham

15th September 2015, 14:28

What race did you watch? Because if Lorenzo hadn't biffed it he would have had a five second lead on Rossi at least.

But he did bin it and the reason he binned it was because of a cold tyre... hence my comment.

Your right though if he had stayed on who knows what would have happened

eelracing

15th September 2015, 14:39

What race did you watch? Because if Lorenzo hadn't biffed it he would have had a five second lead on Rossi at least.

Like fuck he would have.

He crashed in the 15th corner when Rossi was nearly out of the pits...at best he would of been on Rossis ass goin into the 1st corner.
It would of been all on for a scrap in the last laps hence Jorge was pushing to get in front for max advantage.

Drew

15th September 2015, 14:57

Erelyes

15th September 2015, 15:07

A smart man racing a smart race, he could see he was gapping Lorenzo on shagged wets and played the waiting game, he was his only competition.

There was, what, 8 laps to go or so? With the rate that Rossi was losing time compared to the slick-shod bikes, Smith would have passed him even if Rossi stayed out right to the end. The only thing I can think of is that Rossi was hoping it would start raining again.

Why you'd do as many laps as possible at a slow pace before coming in, switching to the slick-shod bike and going faster, is beyond me. Unless you didn't know that slick-shod bikes were faster.

I wonder what might have been if Lorenzo had obeyed his 'PIT' board and gone in a lap earlier, i.e. when MM did?

eelracing

15th September 2015, 15:13

Rossi fucked up, pretty easy to see why I reckon. He knew he couldn't keep pace with Jlo on slicks. So he tried to get Jorge to stay out on wets with him. When Jeorge biffed it, Rossi had 500meters to go before open road at 60kph. Jorge had him dead to rights, and threw it away.

You stick to your story and I'll stick to Jorge knowing he would lose in a last lap scrap.

sugilite

15th September 2015, 16:33

Like fuck he would have.

He crashed in the 15th corner when Rossi was nearly out of the pits...at best he would of been on Rossis ass goin into the 1st corner.
It would of been all on for a scrap in the last laps hence Jorge was pushing to get in front for max advantage.

I'm not getting your logic here. At the time Lorenzo pitted, the slick shod guys were more than 9 seconds a lap faster, thus taking into account the 3 to 4 second lead Rossi had on Lorenzo at the time - the act of Rossi staying out one extra lap would of given Lorenzo at least a 5 second lead. So I'm with Drew on this one.
I'm "Guessing" that Rossi was thinking Lorenzo was going to mimic anything he did, and was betting his prowess on shagged tyres would give him a decent time advantage when he finally did pit - next lap would of been my guess. For sure he is lucky that Lorenzo crashed after not following Rossis script!

eelracing

15th September 2015, 16:48

Pressure baby...even metronomes like Lorenzo can fold under it.

Fuck Rossi is god.

merv

15th September 2015, 17:26

What race did you watch? Because if Lorenzo hadn't biffed it he would have had a five second lead on Rossi at least.

If Marquez hadn't biffed it in so many races this year he'd just about be champion again.

Oscar

15th September 2015, 18:06

If Marquez hadn't biffed it in so many races this year he'd just about be champion again.

If my Granny had wheels, she'd be a wagon.

Shaun Harris

15th September 2015, 18:14

If my Granny had wheels, she'd be a wagon.

Best comment I have read

J.A.W.

15th September 2015, 18:27

Best comment I have read

Wow, M-D is super-sarcastic - this arvo..

Drew

15th September 2015, 19:00

If Marquez hadn't biffed it in so many races this year he'd just about be champion again.I was using the example to point out Rossi's mistake. Not to play 'what if'.

If my Granny had wheels, she'd be a wagon.
Instead, the bitch had udders.

Oscar

15th September 2015, 19:04

Instead, the bitch had udders.

Don't judge everyone based on your own family.

ellipsis

15th September 2015, 19:16

If my Granny had wheels, she'd be a wagon.

...exactly...it's in the books...VR has increased his lead in the champs...what more conjecture can there be had...I must stop mentioning that JL threw his bike away...VR didn't...what if, what if, what if...

Crasherfromwayback

15th September 2015, 19:21

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Fuck Rossi is god.

Lol. Fuck me. You used to say I had it bad for Stoner. Never once called him a god. You going to round two of the vmx at Fielding? If so, I'll bring beer.

carbonhed

15th September 2015, 21:40

I'm not getting your logic here. At the time Lorenzo pitted, the slick shod guys were more than 9 seconds a lap faster, thus taking into account the 3 to 4 second lead Rossi had on Lorenzo at the time - the act of Rossi staying out one extra lap would of given Lorenzo at least a 5 second lead. So I'm with Drew on this one.
I'm "Guessing" that Rossi was thinking Lorenzo was going to mimic anything he did, and was betting his prowess on shagged tyres would give him a decent time advantage when he finally did pit - next lap would of been my guess. For sure he is lucky that Lorenzo crashed after not following Rossis script!

You'd think the fuckwits could work this out using their fingers and toes to count it... but you'd be wrong.

Some of the dumbest mofo's on the planet ride bikes. You can learn this on Kiwibiker.

sugilite

15th September 2015, 21:46

You'd think the fuckwits could work this out using their fingers and toes to count it... but you'd be wrong.

Some of the dumbest mofo's on the planet ride bikes. You can learn this on Kiwibiker.
So what do your fingers and toes come up with? I'd curious to know how you get Rossi ahead of Lorenzo had he not crashed?

Shaun Harris

15th September 2015, 21:49

So what do your fingers and toes come up with? I'd curious to know how you get Rossi ahead of Lorenzo had he not crashed?

yep, even the race division on here is tuning or has turned to shit big time. Note, NO current named racers come on here any longer, sad eh. there used to be good constructive banter regually. Only some of the side car boys have a laugh here still

puddytat

15th September 2015, 21:52

yep, even the race division on here is tuning or has turned to shit big time. Note, NO current named racers come on here any longer, sad eh. there used to be good constructive banter regually. Only some of the side car boys have a laugh here still

Its the Governments fault....

Shaun Harris

15th September 2015, 22:02

Its the Governments fault....

Hahahaaha Prob true man

eelracing

16th September 2015, 03:33

Lol. Fuck me. You used to say I had it bad for Stoner. Never once called him a god. You going to round two of the vmx at Fielding? If so, I'll bring beer.

Haha I'll be there with me beer goggles on...I hope it don't rain tho I wouldn't want them to fog-up.

Shaun Harris

16th September 2015, 06:04

Haha I'll be there with me beer goggles on...I hope it don't rain tho I wouldn't want them to fog-up.

will call ya later this morning man

carbonhed

16th September 2015, 08:30

So what do your fingers and toes come up with? I'd curious to know how you get Rossi ahead of Lorenzo had he not crashed?

Errr... I don't.

I agree with you... and have said it repeatedly since the race ended.

sugilite

16th September 2015, 08:54

Errr... I don't.

I agree with you... and have said it repeatedly since the race ended.
OK, back to the stupid chair for me then :facepalm:

Autech

16th September 2015, 09:51

Cracking race to watch, even for a fucking weird one.

Takes a bit of heat out of the championship but not too much. They still need to stay on it and Rossi need's to stay on the podium and not allow too many bikes tween him and Lozenger. Unlikely that MM would win, but that guy is the luckiest rider on the planet so who's not to say that Rossi and Lorenzo might take each other out in a race? That's racing, it aint over till it's over, the fat lady is yet to sing. Despite everything that is thrown at MM he just seems to come out on top. I don't know what religion he is but I think I might start praying to his gods.

Say what you will about Rossi making a cock up, but he is leading the championship by nearly a race win. That aint half bad. Go ROSSI! Oh and I'm not his fan boy, so fuck off.

carbonhed

16th September 2015, 10:06

OK, back to the stupid chair for me then :facepalm:

:laugh: You can put your socks and slippers back on too.

pritch

16th September 2015, 18:03

Asphalt and Rubber, an online motorcycle mag, has an associated podcast. Episode 6 contains a discussion of the recent events at Misano.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/paddock-pass-podcast-episode-6-misano/

pritch

17th September 2015, 09:25

An interesting thought, and a history lesson:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/will-yamaha-choose-its-champion/

J.A.W.

17th September 2015, 09:51

An interesting thought, and a history lesson:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/will-yamaha-choose-its-champion/

Told ya..

Only question is, can Dani-boi get his act together & run up front with M-M, to split those factory Yamahas..

husaberg

17th September 2015, 10:37

An interesting thought, and a history lesson:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/will-yamaha-choose-its-champion/

Missing from that story is the whys.
Ivy had pulled out a huge lead at the IOM and then actually stopped part way arround the circuit until Read had a lead.
Read had introduced Ivy to Yamaha.
Ivy also used to wind up Read. But he had "generally" followed the orders Yamaha had come up with to ensure they beat Honda for the titles rather than just each other.
The other thing was a savey Read knew Yamaha were pulling out at the end of the season so he had nothing to lose by going against orders.
Ivy also had a bit of bad luck.
If i come accross it i will post the Ivy Story out of Classic racer.
It actually says Ivy did really protest the final race due to the number size even thought the machines were identically equiped.

As a side note Peter Williams had missed out on the Yamaha Works ride IVY got after he honestly admitted to Yamaha Management that he didn't honestly think he could beat Hailwood.
A bloody shame as he was an excellent development engineer as well as a rider.
Likely the most underated Pom ever.

J.A.W.

17th September 2015, 11:13

Phil Read is a super-competitive mind games guy, like V.R. - his gamesmanship is as good as his riding & was often the difference in gaining wins.
Obviously - he simply shrugged off the haters too.. but he was a canny rider & survivor, in a period when racing death was common..

husaberg

17th September 2015, 11:45

The rest which cover the IVY VS Read plus the Degner stuff that was in the same issue.
Click on the attachments three times.

As for Read

Ferry and I did a lot of silly things. With about 134° transfer timing his piston shortening would give an inlet timing of 226°.
It was not uncommon in those days; Bultaco did it too on their TSS250. Remember: back then the carburettors were tiny by current standards.
A more drastic mod by Ferry was raising the inlet ports until they opened at BDC. That's right: C-transfer ports directly connected to the carbs; no reed interference (but quite a lot of Read interference; dear Phil MBE was not the easiest person to get along with).

roogazza

17th September 2015, 12:13

An interesting thought, and a history lesson:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/will-yamaha-choose-its-champion/
Thanks for posting pritch . I followed all that as an 18 yr old. Had to wait for the English bike papers to arrive ,took ages. Remember my couple of YDS3s fondly.
I think Ivy was killed testing a Jawa from memory? Read had a lot of haters.

husaberg

17th September 2015, 12:22

Thanks for posting pritch . I followed all that as an 18 yr old. Had to wait for the English bike papers to arrive ,took ages. Remember my couple of YDS3s fondly.
I think Ivy was killed testing a Jawa from memory? Read had a lot of haters.

Practice session on the Jawa there was talk a plug oiled up and he was checking to see by feeling which one it was, by feeling for the cold cylinder when it suddenly chimed back in throwing him off there was also talk his helmet strap may have not been done up. Sad loss of a great talent. Jack Findlay was meant to join Jawa but his wife or girlfiend wouldn't let him as it had a history of unreliabilty. in the article it says it seized in the wet but it also says his helmet came off.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3F8n5ZqB-0s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Sammy Miller I guess is deaf already.
My father actually still has a YDS3. Its bloody heavy for a 250 doesn't feel any lighter than an A65.

J.A.W.

17th September 2015, 13:18

Ironically it was Yamaha ace Phil Read riding for MV Agusta & upsetting Ago's applecart ( classic case of 'cognitive dissonance' there, psych fans)..
.. with all kinds of modernising ideas ( such as.. disc brakes! horrors.. just imagine!), that sent Ago off to Yamaha, & so win for them - their first 500cc World Championship..

Autech

17th September 2015, 13:27

Guess who's back, back again... Elias is back, tell a friend:
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/223069/1/elias-replaces-corti-at-forward-yamaha.html

They thank Corti, but wish to tell him to fuck off.

Autech

17th September 2015, 13:29

Shit this headline caught me out before I clicked on it:
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/223080/1/rossi-set-for-f1-debut-with-manor-in-singapore.html

J.A.W.

17th September 2015, 13:47

My father actually still has a YDS3. Its bloody heavy for a 250 doesn't feel any lighter than an A65.

Yeah H, they are a bit porky for a 250 2T, but seriously - you really ought to be able to feel the ~20Kg difference,
- bet you'd notice it - on your missus..L.O.L...

eelracing

17th September 2015, 15:20

Told ya..

Only question is, can Dani-boi get his act together & run up front with M-M, to split those factory Yamahas..

Hoho look who's takn the mimi now...Dani's current form would suggest otherwise.

Marquez will be the kingmaker in this championship.Where coming into some pretty strong Lorenzo tracks now and MM rubbing up Jorge will be just what the doctor ordered.

J.A.W.

17th September 2015, 15:35

Hoho look who's takn the mimi now...Dani's current form would suggest otherwise.

Marquez will be the kingmaker in this championship.Where coming into some pretty strong Lorenzo tracks now and MM rubbing up Jorge will be just what the doctor ordered.

We'll see, if Honda big-boss wants results, he'll have to read Dani-boi the bloody Riot Act, but I'm pickin' - he still wants V.R. to eat shit too..

trustme

17th September 2015, 16:46

Honda does not give a fat flying fuck about Yamaha , VR or any other peripheral BS. They have only one goal & that is for their bikes to win.
What wins on Sunday, sells on Monday.

J.A.W.

17th September 2015, 17:02

Honda does not give a fat flying fuck about Yamaha , VR or any other peripheral BS. They have only one goal & that is for their bikes to win.
What wins on Sunday, sells on Monday.

Sure - that's why you can trot down to the local Honda shop this arvo & buy a lovely, affordable RCV just like M-Ms..
& to describe the championship leader as "peripheral BS" is, well, yeah, its - too funny..

roogazza

17th September 2015, 18:18

My father actually still has a YDS3. Its bloody heavy for a 250 doesn't feel any lighter than an A65.

They were fairly heavy for their day,I had two of them a 64 and 66,( 66 same as the pic).
Had a couple of T20 Suzukis as well which were far more flimsy and lighter.

I've found a mint 66 in Aussie, but the guy wants moonbeams for it.

J.A.W.

17th September 2015, 18:22

They were fairly heavy for their day,I had two of them a 64 and 66,( 66 same as the pic).
Had a couple of T20 Suzukis as well which were far more flimsy and lighter.

I've found a mint 66 in Aussie, but the guy wants moonbeams for it.

Suzukis were indeed.. I recently had a spin on an X7 250 again & it felt quite toy-like, more like a 125..

pritch

17th September 2015, 22:36

My father actually still has a YDS3. Its bloody heavy for a 250 doesn't feel any lighter than an A65.

I had a ride on one of those in 1966, must remember to thank the owner if I ever see him again. It was in a tropical paradise, exotic scenery to look at and strange scents stimulating the ol' olfactory. You had to stay awake though 'cause the water buffalo didn't give way.

Berries

17th September 2015, 22:55

I had a ride on one of those in 1966, must remember to thank the owner if I ever see him again. It was in a tropical paradise, exotic scenery to look at and strange scents stimulating the ol' olfactory. You had to stay awake though 'cause the water buffalo didn't give way.
Teretonga right?

Shaun Harris

18th September 2015, 07:11

https://m.motomatters.com/news/2015/09/17/andrea_iannone_dislocates_shoulder_in_tr.html

pritch

18th September 2015, 08:31

http://www.motogp.com/en/in%20the%20media/2015/09/17/biaggi-its-not-just-luck-rossi-deserves-the-title/184819

Asher

18th September 2015, 09:26

http://kickasstorrents.video/search/hitting%20the%20apex/

Hitting the apex is available online. It follows the careers of Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Marquez, Stoner and Simocelli.
Watch it on something you can enable subtitles on, there is a fair bit of Italian and Spanish spoken in it.

manxkiwi

18th September 2015, 11:45

Practice session on the Jawa there was talk a plug oiled up and he was checking to see by feeling which one it was, by feeling for the cold cylinder when it suddenly chimed back in throwing him off there was also talk his helmet strap may have not been done up. Sad loss of a great talent. Jack Findlay was meant to join Jawa but his wife or girlfiend wouldn't let him as it had a history of unreliabilty. in the article it says it seized in the wet but it also says his helmet came off.

Sammy Miller I guess is deaf already.
My father actually still has a YDS3. Its bloody heavy for a 250 doesn't feel any lighter than an A65.

Thanks Hus. Really enjoyed that ear splitting 2T! Makes you go all misty eyed. When I was a kid you could hear the bikes all the way out to Braddan Bridge, every gear change. Now you can't hear them going past the end of the road. 'The road' being second on the left down Bray Hill.

husaberg

18th September 2015, 13:20

Thanks Hus. Really enjoyed that ear splitting 2T! Makes you go all misty eyed. When I was a kid you could hear the bikes all the way out to Braddan Bridge, every gear change. Now you can't hear them going past the end of the road. 'The road' being second on the left down Bray Hill.

Okay hence the manx kiwi i guess you have a few tails to tell?

J.A.W.

18th September 2015, 13:27

Okay hence the manx kiwi i guess you have a few tails to tell?

He might have to cut 'em short - to stay in idiom..

manxkiwi

19th September 2015, 18:22

He he, nice puns! Yeah I guess I've seen quite a bit, by default. I still get back every 3 or 4 years, at TT time of course! Next year's being booked soon..

Autech

21st September 2015, 11:48

So Jack Miller is at it again, posted a photo of himself in an All Blacks jersey this morning. We definitely should claim him I think, the Aussies can have pavalova and Lorde as a trade. NZ motogp champion sounds good to me!

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Shaun Harris

21st September 2015, 13:18

He he, nice puns! Yeah I guess I've seen quite a bit, by default. I still get back every 3 or 4 years, at TT time of course! Next year's being booked soon..

see ya there for a cuppa mate

Asher

21st September 2015, 14:32

Crasherfromwayback

23rd September 2015, 14:10

pritch

23rd September 2015, 17:19

The world is gathering in Aragon, not long now.

Crasherfromwayback

23rd September 2015, 22:04

The world is gathering in Aragon, not long now.

MM

Lorenzo

Pedro

Dovi

Rossi's turn to dnf

sugilite

23rd September 2015, 22:22

MM
Lorenzo
Rossi
Pedro

pritch

23rd September 2015, 22:51

I had a sneaky look back at the results. MM, JL, and DP have won in recent years, Stoner won the two before that. Rossi is almost missing in action at the sharp end, perhaps Aragon is not his favourite track? If that's the case, he needs to learn to love the place.

MM
JL
DP
VR

Unless it rains :whistle:

Shaun Harris

24th September 2015, 08:03

And here is ya 2016 Moto2 champ in the making

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/Sam-Lowes-To-Race-With-Team-Federal-Oil-Gresini-In-2016-Moto2-World-Championship-Before-Joining-MotoGP-In-2017

puddytat

24th September 2015, 11:07

Nah ,it'll be Alex Rins:yes:

pritch

24th September 2015, 19:48

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/09/24/2015_aragon_motogp_preview_rossi_vs_lore.html

Autech

25th September 2015, 19:56

Nah ,it'll be Alex Rins:yes:

Yup, mad skills!

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J.A.W.

26th September 2015, 09:18

Results of FFP Aragon, has Geoerge ahead of V.R., by 7/10s, then Smitty from the Honda boys..( M-M in 5th)..

roogazza

26th September 2015, 09:48

Results of FFP Aragon, has Geoerge ahead of V.R., by 7/10s, then Smitty from the Honda boys..( M-M in 5th)..

https://motomatters.com/results/2015/09/25/2015_aragon_motogp_fp2_results_lorenzo_q.html

Only Fp2 but good for yamaha.
So history and Hondas to mean not as much ?

As long as Rossi maintains his pos I'm happy.

mulletman

26th September 2015, 10:36

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Only Fp2 but good for yamaha.
So history and Hondas to mean not as much ?

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Check the tyres that the hondas are running compared , they're still using hard wait till they use mediums...

pritch

26th September 2015, 11:52

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Check the tyres that the hondas are running compared , they're still using hard wait till they use mediums...

Your faith is touching but Mr Emmett suggests that it's misplaced.
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/09/25/2015_aragon_friday_motogp_round_up_sandb.html

Well, well, Marquez can't heve known what David Emmett thought, he has worked to mulletman's plan. Good call.

mulletman

27th September 2015, 02:18

Your faith is touching but Mr Emmett suggests that it's misplaced.
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/09/25/2015_aragon_friday_motogp_round_up_sandb.html

Well, well, Marquez can't heve known what David Emmett thought, he has worked to mulletman's plan. Good call.

:Punk::Punk:

Autech

27th September 2015, 07:41

God MM and JL really are in a class of their own in the dry atm.

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carbonhed

27th September 2015, 08:34

Marquez and Lorenzo are absolutely epic. Brave ride by Iannone and qualifying effort of the season for Pol.

Rossi? Pffft. Desperately praying for rain once again.

Autech

27th September 2015, 09:25

Marquez and Lorenzo are absolutely epic. Brave ride by Iannone and qualifying effort of the season for Pol.

Rossi? Pffft. Desperately praying for rain once again.

That and praying Dani doesn't beat him to 3rd.

I wonder what MM and JL eat for breakfast, must be some good weetbix!

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BMWST?

27th September 2015, 15:26

Marquez and Lorenzo are absolutely epic. Brave ride by Iannone and qualifying effort of the season for Pol.

Rossi? Pffft. Desperately praying for rain once again.
Smith and pol,may even be in the mix,but they wont have the pace once the tyres are past their best.it could be interesting though because the yammies may need the softer option tyre

pritch

27th September 2015, 21:03

Apparently most forecasts for the Aragon area mention a possibility of rain about 2.00PM. Start time of the GP.

Rossi must be hoping. During morning warmup he scrubbed in a set of rain tyres so as to be ready if the rain does come. Later comments indicate some other riders did so as well.

Riders were also practicing changing bikes. Lorenzo tried to do a Marquez style jump from one bike to the other but landed awkwardly on his leg. "Not pretty."

If I'd known there was so much going on I'd have watched the warm up myself.

mulletman

27th September 2015, 22:06

mulletman

27th September 2015, 22:10

Moto 3 was full of awesome passing and scraps with some last lap oops...

pritch

27th September 2015, 23:48

There's nothing wrong with the weather as the bikes line up on the grid.

mulletman

28th September 2015, 01:09

Great to see Pedro scrap it out hard with Vale , the Honda speed down the straight was impressive.

jasonu

28th September 2015, 05:59

Looks like someone sprinkled some crack on Pedo's weetbix. It's about time that little poof did something interesting. Hopefully he will keep it up.

carbonhed

28th September 2015, 06:28

Way to go Dani Pedrosa!!! Dicked him.

Shame MM couldn't keep it upright. Staying with Lorenzo on the opening laps seems like too big an ask.

FROSTY

28th September 2015, 07:51

Who gave pedro those cement pills ??

pritch

28th September 2015, 08:35

Great to see Pedro scrap it out hard with Vale , the Honda speed down the straight was impressive.

I think it was David Emmett commented before the race that Rossi, being taller and heavier than the other top riders, needs to have his engine run leaner to make it to the end of the race with the amount of fuel available. Meaning that he has a slight power handicap compared to his competition. All of which may have nothing to do with Pedro pulling away down the straight.

Pedro done good though, Rossi gave it his best shot but Pedro was up to the challenge. He did it so well that I wasn't even pissed-off at him for the championship points he was taking off Rossi.

The next three races are closer to our time zone so we won't have to be up in the wee small hours, we can watch at a civilised time.

roogazza

28th September 2015, 08:41

https://motomatters.com/results/2015/09/27/2015_aragon_motogp_race_results_are_you_.html

Some great racing and the rain stayed away, thank christ.
Thought Rossi would take second even tho Pedro had so much on the long straight but alas no.
A good fight.
Ducatis did good with Iannone excellent.
Next three rounds are going to be critical.

Go Rossi !

J.A.W.

28th September 2015, 10:21

Good effort Dani-boi! To finally show his mettle, & in such an emphatic manner.. make a race of it..

After seeing M-M lose the front - yet again, for Dani to then push V.R. around like a bunny.. splendido!

Honda would be happy, & so would the Spanish fans.. if only Dani could string rides like that over a season..

If the two Honda boys can spoil V.R. in the next few..

Shaun Harris

28th September 2015, 13:09

Dani sure rode like a star, but it was his top speed advantage that held him in 2nd place from VR

carbonhed

28th September 2015, 13:33

Shaun Harris

28th September 2015, 14:52

I guess it must be a hell of a luxury to know that you're never going to be drafted down the back straight.

It sure would be. But it was the best I have seen Dani ride all year, shame he is not a consistent fast rider. VR did have the advantage of a better handling bike though, so that allowed him to catch up in the tighter stuff, but still got his ass wipped

carbonhed

28th September 2015, 15:58

It sure would be. But it was the best I have seen Dani ride all year, shame he is not a consistent fast rider. VR did have the advantage of a better handling bike though, so that allowed him to catch up in the tighter stuff, but still got his ass wipped

I hope it puts a rocket up his confidence levels and he returns to Alien status asap. You'd certainly think beating Rossi in a dogfight would be an absolute lifetime highlight and he did seem pretty buzzed in the press conference.

Shaun Harris

28th September 2015, 16:13

wtf does Danny kent need to win a championship

Berries

28th September 2015, 16:45

wtf does Danny kent need to win a championship
More points than everyone else.

:second:

Shaun Harris

28th September 2015, 17:43

More points than everyone else.

:second:

lol like ya humour

Drew

28th September 2015, 20:02

What a cool last couple laps. Dani was fantastic. Normally when Jorge has better pace than the field, he'll just cut laps a couple tenths off his best. He either didn't do it that way this time, or he didn't actually have a great deal more pace than Dani and Rossi.

Can't believe Kent on the last lap. What a fucken Muppet! Looking around mid turn to see who is behind, dumb arse.

Autech

28th September 2015, 20:36

I hope it puts a rocket up his confidence levels and he returns to Alien status asap. You'd certainly think beating Rossi in a dogfight would be an absolute lifetime highlight and he did seem pretty buzzed in the press conference.

That's 2 out of 3 battles he's won vs Rossi now, looks like his form isn't half bad again. Until he falls off and injures himself again that is :facepalm:

Fucking top notch battle, that is what we like to see in motogp but unfortunately only comes along once n a while.
Can't decide who I want to win the championship now... JL is fast as fuckery in the first lap, once again it was his first few laps which may or may not have kept him clear of the chasing pack and almost certainly cause Marc to throw his bike, followed quickly by his toys.

Moto3 was a funny last lap, dunno what fart escaped Danny's brain but his perfect season so far certainly permits him the occasional mind fart. Helped by the fact that young Barstyneeeneee decided to help Binder bin-her. That said that could have put the stamp on the seal for Danny, will have to wait a few more rounds. That new KTM chassis is quite good by the looks, I was watching their mid corner speed compared to the Honda, looked alllll right.

BMWST?

28th September 2015, 20:37

Dani sure rode like a star, but it was his top speed advantage that held him in 2nd place from VR

I guess it must be a hell of a luxury to know that you're never going to be drafted down the back straight.
Dani style is such that he picks the bike up really early to get the drive.Where did Dani make the place winning overtake?Was it the back straight?No it was turn 7???? The overtake on the back straight was a done deal cos VR went in to deep to 15.
NO ONE ELSE THIS SEASON HAS FOUGHT BACK THAT HARD to the man who some say is the greatest.You Dani Pedrosa haters can lump that one.

husaberg

28th September 2015, 20:44

Dani style is such that he picks the bike up really early to get the drive.Where did Dani make the place winning overtake?Was it the back straight?No it was turn 7???? The overtake on the back straight was a done deal cos VR went in to deep to 15.
NO ONE ELSE THIS SEASON HAS FOUGHT BACK THAT HARD to the man who some say is the greatest.You Dani Pedrosa haters can lump that one.
Race prior
1. Valentino Rossi 247 points
2. Jorge Lorenzo 224 points (-23)
3. Marc Marquez 184 points (-63)
4. Andrea Iannone 159 points (-88)
5. Bradley Smith 135 points (-112)
6. Andrea Dovizioso 128 points (-119)
7. Dani Pedrosa 109 points (-138)

After this race

1 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 263 points
2 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 249
3 Marc MARQUEZ Honda SPA 184
4 Andrea IANNONE Ducati ITA 172
5 Bradley SMITH Yamaha GBR 143
6 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati ITA 139
7 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 129

Autech

28th September 2015, 20:49

SHOTS FIRED:

Bradders talking about Pol Pot.

“I have to be happy with that. Obviously, he made the mistake and ran off track. He lost about a second more than I did when I ran wide. So a little bit more than I did, but he had plenty of laps behind me towards the end, and all the opportunities to attack and overtake me. But like you said, it was his strongest weekend for a while and I still managed to come out on top. He's the guy riding my style of bike, and he still can't do more. So even with a difficult weekend, we can still manage to beat the guy who is riding my motorcycle, so I have to pleased with that.”

The guy who is riding my motorcycle... Hahaha.

Crasherfromwayback

28th September 2015, 21:48

Fuck man!!!! Did you guys see Bradley Smith go nuts! Oh that's right...

One freak podium in a freak of nature race does not a champ make.

Eat Ginga pie.

Shaun Harris

29th September 2015, 07:37

Fuck man!!!! Did you guys see Bradley Smith go nuts! Oh that's right...

One freak podium in a freak of nature race does not a champ make.

Eat Ginga pie.

He is a marketers dream to work with

Autech

29th September 2015, 07:56

Fuck man!!!! Did you guys see Bradley Smith go nuts! Oh that's right...

One freak podium in a freak of nature race does not a champ make.

Eat Ginga pie.

He beat his team mate, which is after all who you are racing out there as everyone else's bike is faster etc.

Aleix went rather well I thought, seems to have swung the balance back his way from young Vinales. I'll say it again, what a top pair of riders they have there.

Shaun Harris

29th September 2015, 08:04

Bradley Smith Quote- re the Ducati wings

“Others you can follow in the slipstream and it's no problem at all, whereas that one it seems to unsettle the bike and has like a whirlwind effect behind it. So it's a bit weird. I don't know if it creates a better hole in the air or what, I don't know what it is. But when you get behind it, it's like you get pulled in more than with the other motorcycles. It's something I need to bear in mind for the future.

Funny as really, as when you are slip streaming someone, you can easily unsettle them, the leading bike, by finding the wind coming off the lead bike, and moving around in it a little, which will unsettle the leading bike and screw with the riders head a little

roogazza

29th September 2015, 08:24

Can't believe Kent on the last lap. What a fucken Muppet! Looking around mid turn to see who is behind, dumb arse.

I've seen him looking around like that in a couple of races D, might be a habit ?

However, it bit him this time. Just a matter of time for the title tho isn't it ? like Zarco in M2 ?

Autech

29th September 2015, 08:30

For the haters:

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/09/27/pedrosa-back-to-his-best/185685

Shaun Harris

29th September 2015, 08:45

I've seen him looking around like that in a couple of races D, might be a habit ?

However, it bit him this time. Just a matter of time for the title tho isn't it ? like Zarco in M2 ?

Yep, but he could have left in an ambulance with serious broken bones, and NOT won the champs

Shaun Harris

29th September 2015, 08:46

For the haters:

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/09/27/pedrosa-back-to-his-best/185685

Factory HRC bike, 1 win av per year, wippy do

eelracing

29th September 2015, 12:27

For the haters:[QUOTE]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/09/27/pedrosa-back-to-his-best/185685

Lets bring a bit of reality back to the table in the final lap scrap stakes.

Oh that's right Husa already has.

Race prior
1. Valentino Rossi 247 points
2. Jorge Lorenzo 224 points (-23)
3. Marc Marquez 184 points (-63)
4. Andrea Iannone 159 points (-88)
5. Bradley Smith 135 points (-112)
6. Andrea Dovizioso 128 points (-119)
7. Dani Pedrosa 109 points (-138)

After this race

1 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha ITA 263 points
2 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 249
3 Marc MARQUEZ Honda SPA 184
4 Andrea IANNONE Ducati ITA 172
5 Bradley SMITH Yamaha GBR 143
6 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati ITA 139
7 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 129

Daniboy had nothing to lose...but good on him,he deserved second place.

Autech

29th September 2015, 13:03

Daniboy had nothing to lose...but good on him,he deserved second place.

Rossi said that he was happy to battle with Dani as he is not a muppet and won't take him out, paraphrased slightly (lots) but you get what I mean. Something along the lines of "With Dani I can push the maximum for the overtake". Was a nice clean battle.

Lets think about the two battles the golden boy Marquez and Rossi have had this year, who came out on top? Rossi! The best brawler on the paddock. Both times MM either ended up on his arse or nearly did by riding to collide with Rossi and paid the price for it. Great to see that a clean battle can be fought, shows that Rossi gives what he is given. Do unto others... etc etc.

pritch

29th September 2015, 13:07

I haven't noticed Pedrosa haters hereabout. The kindest thing you could say about his MotoGP career though is that it has been underwhelming. Especially considering that for a couple of seasons Honda were designing the bike around him.

He has had bad luck with accidents, and for a long time he was under the seemingly malignant influence of Puig. Since coming out-from-under he has seemed a lot happier, and on the evidence of a couple of nights ago is capable of mixing it with the best. Well done him.

Oscar

29th September 2015, 13:12

jasonu

29th September 2015, 16:52

roogazza

29th September 2015, 17:36

He has had bad luck with accidents, and for a long time he was under the seemingly malignant influence of Puig. Since coming out-from-under he has seemed a lot happier, and on the evidence of a couple of nights ago is capable of mixing it with the best. Well done him.

I'd like to see Pedro get a kiddie size cap when he makes the podium . :lol:

ps one that he doesn't have to stuff his ears into....:(

rode well tho huh, nothing to lose.

pritch

29th September 2015, 17:37

There are some guys who have been around as long (like Edwards and Hayden) who would give their left nut to have "26 MotoGP Victories" next to their name.

Ahh but Hayden has MotoGP Champion after his name. Despite being the chosen one Pedro never managed that.

Shaun Harris

29th September 2015, 18:07

Ahh but Hayden has MotoGP Champion after his name. Despite being the chosen one Pedro never managed that.

And was about the easiest won World championship I have ever seen over the years. Fair play to him though, the points added up obviously

Crasherfromwayback

29th September 2015, 21:57

jasonu

30th September 2015, 03:01

Drew

30th September 2015, 06:03

So Rossi got in waaaay too hot many times. Could've skittled Pedro had he not been race wise enough to let him through, then cut back up the inside of him. Much like Stoner did to him in 2007. When MM gets in too hot...he's a dangerous moron that should be taken out. Seems odd to me. But then again...maybe not.
I didn't see Rossi in danger of taking Pedrosa out in any of those overtakes. They were lined up for a good distance, he just couldn't get turned in early enough for them to stick. I imagine Rossi was hoping Danni would be up beside him still and not turn in either, but it all looked clean from my couch.

I've never said I thought Marquez was gonna take folk out though, so I might be missing something.

Shaun Harris

30th September 2015, 07:25

Maybe that fear factor is part of his M.O.... 'watch out I'm a dangerous cunt that might take you out if you try it on'. It (and other things) worked for 2 years.

MM is obviously extremely talanted, but did also have the very best bike on the grid for those last 2 years, and now that Yam have caught up, his inexperience ( Only) is standing out to me.

pritch

30th September 2015, 07:39

Someone, it might have been Crutchlow, commented after seeing Rossi at work up close for the first time said, "He just charges at them".

Autech

30th September 2015, 08:29

So Rossi got in waaaay too hot many times. Could've skittled Pedro had he not been race wise enough to let him through, then cut back up the inside of him. Much like Stoner did to him in 2007. When MM gets in too hot...he's a dangerous moron that should be taken out. Seems odd to me. But then again...maybe not.

Rossi gives what he is given?

MM is obviously extremely talanted, but did also have the very best bike on the grid for those last 2 years, and now that Yam have caught up, his inexperience ( Only) is standing out to me.

That and changing back to the 2014 frame really isn't going to help him next year I think. Pedrosa stuck with the 15 and made it work riding around it's obvious issues. Marquez seems content to keep pushing the front till oblivion, you can only be so fast...
Wasn't that the same corner he took Pedrosa out on a few years back doing his usual "rider in front of me but I won't change my braking marker" bullshit?

jasonu

30th September 2015, 08:49

. Pedrosa stuck with the 15 and made it work riding around it's obvious issues. ?

Almost all of Pedos results say he has NOT made the 2015 work.

Mental Trousers

30th September 2015, 08:50

The Moto2 boys showed how to make a pass stick at Aragon (or any track) - get up beside the guy you're passing and stay there so he can't turn down behind you.

Autech

30th September 2015, 09:33

Almost all of Pedos results say he has NOT made the 2015 work.

What have you been smoking? The guy has been injured, missed many rounds, came back (Still injured) and stuck the fucking thing on the podium while his team mate chucked it down the track. IS YOU HIGH??? :doh:

Do you think HJC will be happy that there is a bike missing from the podium 5 rounds this year? They pay their riders to be in front of the camera not in the sand trap.

Oscar

30th September 2015, 10:52

What have you been smoking? The guy has been injured, missed many rounds, came back (Still injured) and stuck the fucking thing on the podium while his team mate chucked it down the track. IS YOU HIGH??? :doh:

Do you think HJC will be happy that there is a bike missing from the podium 5 rounds this year? They pay their riders to be in front of the camera not in the sand trap.

The irony is that next year MM may be riding something that DP did most of the development on.
And what will DP be riding?

husaberg

30th September 2015, 11:23

The irony is that next year MM may be riding something that DP did most of the development on.
And what will DP be riding?

DP from memory had a massive pay cut in his latest contract something like millions of dollars but it has huge incentive bonus based on results.

pritch

30th September 2015, 11:34

That and changing back to the 2014 frame really isn't going to help him next year I think.

Lotsa new things next year.

At this weeks Michelin tyre test in Aragon front end crashes were again a feature apparently. Rossi was rather beaten up but didn't break anything.

If the teams haven't already received their new electronics they're about to get them.

Overnight our time on Twitter JL had what some might construe as a dig at Rossi. From memory, "Life is like a shark, if you stop moving you die."

Shaun Harris

30th September 2015, 11:41

The irony is that next year MM may be riding something that DP did most of the development on.
And what will DP be riding?

They will be able to fit a not so vicious motor to the chassis also.

Oscar

30th September 2015, 11:43

Overnight our time on Twitter JL had what some might construe as a dig at Rossi. From memory, "Life is like a shark, if you stop moving you die."

He should remember the old saying: "There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip .."

Erelyes

30th September 2015, 13:28

Someone, it might have been Crutchlow, commented after seeing Rossi at work up close for the first time said, "He just charges at them".

At the end of the day, if you're ahead of them and inside of them before the apex, you have passed them. There's nothing illegal about a 'block pass'.

It won't always work and there are riders that are better at cutting back inside on the corner exit, etc, than others. Rossi is one of those ones who's good at coming back at people. Perhaps Cal isn't (which is why he's not Alien material).

What have you been smoking? The guy has been injured, missed many rounds, came back (Still injured) and stuck the fucking thing on the podium while his team mate chucked it down the track. IS YOU HIGH??? :doh:

Do you think HJC will be happy that there is a bike missing from the podium 5 rounds this year? They pay their riders to be in front of the camera not in the sand trap.

To be fair: Rossi has never won at Aragon. He hasn't even come second there before. JL has won twice and DP has won once. So of course they had an advantage there.

As for MM, his dominance last year was utterly spectacular, and he show-boated to boot ('swimming across the line', running down pit lane after his bike broke, etc). I think he's still in HRC's good books... provided he can find form again. Besides, his 'win it or bin it' approach, doesn't necessarily mean bad bike sales. Sure he's not winning, but it's not cos the bike is slow - it's cos he's throwing it into the litter.

Overnight our time on Twitter JL had what some might construe as a dig at Rossi. From memory, "Life is like a shark, if you stop moving you die."

Yeah, well, let's see what Lorenzo is doing in 8 year's time.

J.A.W.

30th September 2015, 14:00

At the end of the day, if you're ahead of them and inside of them before the apex, you have passed them. There's nothing illegal about a 'block pass'.

Like what Jacko did at Silverstone?

To be fair: Rossi has never won at Aragon. He hasn't even come second there before. JL has won twice and DP has won once. So of course they had an advantage there.

Aragon is a fairly new venue, ( Spain has how many Moto GP races now, 3, or 4..) & V.R. hadn't won much - anywhere - in that period..

As for MM...

Is M-M throwing the Honda away, or is it the other way 'round.. that's why Dani-boi deserves full credit for dealing to V.R., esp' after seeing M-M's front end fold up again..

Oscar

30th September 2015, 14:01

Yeah, well, let's see what Lorenzo is doing in 8 year's time.

Great point.

Problem is, I'm picking most of us will still be right here, bitching and moaning in the ElectroMotoGP 2022 thread...

Autech

30th September 2015, 14:48

Lotsa new things next year.

At this weeks Michelin tyre test in Aragon front end crashes were again a feature apparently. Rossi was rather beaten up but didn't break anything.

If the teams haven't already received their new electronics they're about to get them.

Overnight our time on Twitter JL had what some might construe as a dig at Rossi. From memory, "Life is like a shark, if you stop moving you die."

Yup, very true. From what is coming out the Michelin has massive rear grip but the front is lacking. MM, as he continues to show, seems to rely on the front end a lot (as do a lot of GP riders) to get round a corner. DP seems to be more focused on standing the bike up and grunting out of the corner using the rear grip (perhaps due to his lower weight and stumpy legs he is less able to get his weight forward over the front in corners?). I think we will see some drastic changes in riding style next year to cope with the new tyres and electrics.

I would not be at all surprised to see a Ducati win it next year, based on riding style Dovi might be the man for it as he seems to use the rear grip available really well. How cool would that be?

At the end of the day though, who really knows? All I know is that this season is gunna be an epic show down. GO ROSSI!

Shaun Harris

30th September 2015, 16:54

[QUOTE=Erelyes;1130907251

To be fair: Rossi has never won at Aragon. He hasn't even come second there before. JL has won twice and DP has won once. So of course they had an advantage there.

Well said and good observation. I have not read any one else on any forums I troll on, recognizing what the Old Goat just went and did. And did it in awsome style.

Crasherfromwayback

30th September 2015, 19:00

I didn't see Rossi in danger of taking Pedrosa out in any of those overtakes. They were lined up for a good distance, he just couldn't get turned in early enough for them to stick. I imagine Rossi was hoping Danni would be up beside him still and not turn in either, but it all looked clean from my couch.

I've never said I thought Marquez was gonna take folk out though, so I might be missing something.

Prob only because Pedro knew it was coming and was smart enough to sit back and let him do it time and time again. As I said...looked like the Rossi of 07. Never said it was clean though...I'm all for it! As far as MM goes...I didn't say you had said that. Plenty of diddle fiddlers here that have though.

Shaun Harris

1st October 2015, 05:03

Drew

1st October 2015, 05:25

Prob only because Pedro knew it was coming and was smart enough to sit back and let him do it time and time again. As I said...looked like the Rossi of 07. Never said it was clean though...I'm all for it! As far as MM goes...I didn't say you had said that. Plenty of diddle fiddlers here that have though.

With the exception of his turn seven brilliance, looked like Pedro didn't need to do anything different from his normal line to get back past. He must have been consistently lapping very close to flat out throughout the whole race. Impressive stuff.

I think Rossi will win the championship this year, and although he was the first to adopt Marquez' style and take it to him, it seems that Jorge is still the faster rider on equal machinery. Jorge is not as likeable in my eyes, but I still gotta take my hat off to him.

Autech

1st October 2015, 08:55

MM Breaks his hand. Well prob a little bone in it or something

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/09/30/marc-marquez-breaks-hand-while-training/185984

To me, this means Japan is all about 2 riders only. JL and VR, Bring it on

Haha Broken hand, They meant to say, he broke his little pinky on his left hand, wippy doo doo

Marquez it turns out can crash anything with two wheels :Oops:.

MM wont let that slow him down lol, the guy's a freak.

Lets look at Motegi the last few years.

2014 JL, MM, VR and DP all finishing within 3.1 seconds of each other (can't remember this race very well but must have been epic).
2013 JL, MM, DP and VR in 6th.
2012 DP, JL VR 7th.

Taking this into account I will be surprised if JL doesn't smash the others going on his current form and previous results there. DP seems to do well there as well so I would think he might be ahead of VR. MM will depend on his fitness and whether the hand hurts him too much.
Unless it rains...

I think Rossi will win the championship this year, and although he was the first to adopt Marquez' style and take it to him, it seems that Jorge is still the faster rider on equal machinery. Jorge is not as likeable in my eyes, but I still gotta take my hat off to him.

I hope so, they all need to work out what it is JL is doing in the first 2 laps to build that gap if they want to finish ahead of him in the dry. He just gets off the line and fucks off. MM seems the only one able to stick with him, but has chucked it down the road a few times already this year trying to match JL's pace. JL must just close his eyes and fucking hammer it for the first few laps and hope the tyres hold.

pritch

1st October 2015, 09:15

Jorge is not as likeable in my eyes, but I still gotta take my hat off to him.

Yeah, I have read several references to his being up himself(?) and he doesn't come across as very loveable. He did grow up in front of cameras though and how many of us would have looked good doing that?

The guys who put the Motopod podcast together are amateurs, basically they are fans. They can only attend a GP when the circus comes to near where their contributors lives. Generally they have only been granted the odd interview with a satellite team manager or rider. The PR people from the factory teams haven't seen fit to give them the time of day.

Until last year - one of the Motopod guys gained access to the Yamaha hospitality and asked somewhat deferentially, and I suspect with no great expectation, if he could please interview somebody.
"There's Jorge Lorenzo sitting over there, why don't you interview him?"
That must've seemed almost like winning Lotto.
JL gave a good interview and I gave him credit for that. Plus, as you say, you have to doff the titfer for the way he can ride.

Crasherfromwayback

1st October 2015, 11:24

I think Rossi will win the championship this year, .

Nah. I think Lorenzo will sneak in. But full credit to Rossi if he does win it!

Shaun Harris

1st October 2015, 11:52

Nah. I think Lorenzo will sneak in. But full credit to Rossi if he does win it!

it is gunna come down to hand full of points only eh, unless one of them gets taken out, or crashes out them self under pressure, and that would be JL only I say IF IF IF at all. I am convinced Yamaha would want it to be Rossi, to kind of say fuk u to honda and Ducati, but would prefer it to be JL, as I am convinced the winning bonus will be a lot more of a payout to VR than JL. Seriously does not matter apart from too the fans anyway, as racing does not sell motorbikes like it did pre 1990's

pritch

1st October 2015, 13:28

Nah. I think Lorenzo will sneak in. But full credit to Rossi if he does win it!

I can't post a link, I'm in the process of downloading a new OS for the lap top, but Mat Oxley's latest is out at Motor Sport magazine.

He says JL has bested VR 3 to 2 at Motegi when on equal machinery. Last year VR beat JL.at Philip Island, Sepang and Valencia.

The fat lady is still in her dressing room.🎵

husaberg

1st October 2015, 13:52

He says JL has bested VR 3 to 2 at Motegi when on equal machinery. Last year VR beat JL.at Philip Island, Sepang and Valencia.
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/motogp-race/rossi-needs-stuff-to-happen/
The fat lady is still in her dressing room.��

Yes but Those fat ladies I should note generally sing opera in Italian.
It will be very interesting to see who wants it more and what risks each will be willing to take.
For me Rossi needs to beat JL into playing his own game by taking the start and forcing Lorenzo into a race. To do this he needs to qualify fast on the front row.
This won't happen If he lets him control the race from out front.
As for the Stats well before this year when was the last time Rossi won a wet race. or a race in the British GP but he did both at the same meeting

Autech

1st October 2015, 14:34

To quote the crowd at every race track they go to in the world. "Rooosssiiii rosssiiii ROSSSIII ROSSSSSIIII".

Shaun Harris

1st October 2015, 14:44

Yes but Those fat ladies I should note generally sing opera in Italian.
It will be very interesting to see who wants it more and what risks each will be willing to take.
For me Rossi needs to beat JL into playing his own game by taking the start and forcing Lorenzo into a race. To do this he needs to qualify fast on the front row.
This won't happen If he lets him control the race from out front.
As for the Stats well before this year when was the last time Rossi won a wet race. or a race in the British GP but he did both at the same meeting

Bang on, we are all seeing the NEW Rossi, and he can ride a bike a lot looser than JL can, if it comes down to that close a fight. jl will spin out and throw his toys out of the cot haha. I would love to see him shed a tear, i would piss my pants instsntly

husaberg

1st October 2015, 14:53

Bang on, we are all seeing the NEW Rossi, and he can ride a bike a lot looser than JL can, if it comes down to that close a fight. jl will spin out and throw his toys out of the cot haha. I would love to see him shed a tear, i would piss my pants instsntly

Yeah but that link that was posted balanced the looseness with the fuel consumption Rossi uses more fuel due to the looseness and is larger (which is something I never considered.)
Lorenzo's smooth style I guess suits the 20 litres.
But if he can make it a dogfight my money would be on Rossi.

Shaun Harris

1st October 2015, 14:56

Yeah but that link that was posted balanced the looseness with the fuel consumption Rossi uses more fuel due to the looseness and is larger (which is something I never considered.)
Lorenzo's smooth style I guess suits the 20 litres.
But if he can make it a dogfight my money would be on Rossi.

Obviously rellivent to nature of the track though, more flowing tracks VR and fuel is fine, stop go though, he guzzles it

husaberg

1st October 2015, 14:58

Obviously rellivent to nature of the track though, more flowing tracks VR and fuel is fine, stop go though, he guzzles it

Yeah granted, but they are on the same track and same bike so with only 20 litres to play in this day and age of electronic fuel management Lorenzo will always have a HP advantage.
According to the blurb the highest fuel consumption track is actually Motegi.
He's giving away 4 inches to Lorenzo and about 10 inches to DP.

Shaun Harris

1st October 2015, 15:04

Yeah granted, but they are on the same track and same bike so with only 20 litres to play with Lorenzo will always have a HP advantage.

No mate, as I said above, diff tracks use diff amounts, in some cases Yes, JL has the HP, but in others, it is the same. Take a look back at some of there speed trap times, some tracks nothing in it at all, meaning VR was not running lean loosing hp

Askor

1st October 2015, 15:35

To quote the crowd at every race track they go to in Spain "Baaaap Baaaaap baaaap baaaaapp".

10characters

Autech

1st October 2015, 15:48

^^^

Hahaha, the above is in reference to the recent WSBK round where there was a chap in the crowd walking around with a megaphone making high pitched motocycle noises.

carbonhed

1st October 2015, 16:54

For me Rossi needs to beat JL into playing his own game by taking the start and forcing Lorenzo into a race. To do this he needs to qualify fast on the front row.
This won't happen If he lets him control the race from out front.

Rossi out qualified Lorenzo at Assen..... think that's about it though. Out of fourteen rounds.

The view of Lorenzo that Rossi has become accustomed to.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r319/carbonhed/99-lorenzo.jpg

Crasherfromwayback

1st October 2015, 18:42

I'm thinking Lorenzo will win Montegi & , PI, Rossi will win Sepang, Lorenzo Valencia. Game over as Pedro or MM will get between them once or more.

Shaun Harris

1st October 2015, 19:24

I'm thinking Lorenzo will win Montegi & , PI, Rossi will win Sepang, Lorenzo Valencia. Game over as Pedro or MM will get between them once or more.

PI is Rossi for a box dude?

carbonhed

1st October 2015, 19:48

Amazing season though. Whoever wins.

Autech

1st October 2015, 20:28

Amazing season though. Whoever wins.

Hear phuckin hear!

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eelracing

1st October 2015, 21:51

I'm thinking Lorenzo will win Montegi & , PI, Rossi will win Sepang, Lorenzo Valencia. Game over as Pedro or MM will get between them once or more.

No no no no Pete, Marquez has the measure of all of them.
Youthfull impetuousness caused the crash at Aragon and he would of had JL turkey stuffed in another lap or two.
Once JLo. is passed from a holeshot position he gets gobblegobbled up quicksmart.

And noone carves up a turkey more surgically than The Doctor.

BMWST?

1st October 2015, 22:32

i dont know why you guys think Jlo will just roll over if he sees VR front wheel,They have banged fairings before,and Lorenzo used to be pretty ruthless in the 250s.I am hoping Jlo wins it.The way the whole circus is you would think no 46 is the only rider there.Would like to see Dani win a race too

eelracing

1st October 2015, 22:49

Oh hes not a champ coz he just rolls over,no sir.
To beat him he has to be forced into a scrap.If MM can upset his charge and slow him up by those elusive 10ths and allow Vale a sniff then its gonna be all on.
JLo is smart enough to not fight MM in that situation but Rossis front wheel in his face will be red rag meet bull.

Cant wait.

Shaun Harris

2nd October 2015, 00:04

carbonhed

2nd October 2015, 09:10

To beat him he has to be forced into a scrap.If MM can upset his charge and slow him up by those elusive 10ths and allow Vale a sniff then its gonna be all on.

Cant wait.

So somebody else has to slow JLO down so the old geezer can catch up?

Finally we agree on something :laugh:

Erelyes

2nd October 2015, 09:44

I'm thinking Lorenzo will win Montegi & , PI, Rossi will win Sepang, Lorenzo Valencia. Game over as Pedro or MM will get between them once or more.

Good sum up. I would argue PI for Rossi but that's just me. I think the variables are
- Whether the Honda Aliens wrap up 1st/2nd place instead of splitting the Yamahas (narrowing the points gap that either VR/JL gain per race)
- Whether JL/VR fall off
- If it rains (JL will drop nuts)

i dont know why you guys think Jlo will just roll over if he sees VR front wheel,They have banged fairings before,and Lorenzo used to be pretty ruthless in the 250s.I am hoping Jlo wins it.The way the whole circus is you would think no 46 is the only rider there.Would like to see Dani win a race too

If you watch the doco 'Hitting the Apex', JL talks about how he used to be gung ho, but injuries sobered him up a lot.

I'm not saying JL is going to roll over and play dead, but he doesn't seem to have the 'throw it up the inside and see if it sticks' talent that MM and VR have demonstrated. Can you honestly see JL pulling a pass attempt in the last sector, like the one VR tried against Pedro at Aragon?

Autech

2nd October 2015, 10:38

Good sum up. I would argue PI for Rossi but that's just me. I think the variables are
- Whether the Honda Aliens wrap up 1st/2nd place instead of splitting the Yamahas (narrowing the points gap that either VR/JL gain per race)
- Whether JL/VR fall off
- If it rains (JL will drop nuts)

Plot twist: Marquez's injured pinky rules him out for the rest of the season, Casey Stoner named as replacement for final rounds. Who would win PI then eh?

pritch

2nd October 2015, 12:51

Plot twist: Marquez's injured pinky rules him out for the rest of the season,

Dunno, but it looks more serious than a mosquito bite.

jasonu

2nd October 2015, 14:17

Plot twist: Marquez's injured pinky rules him out for the rest of the season, Casey Stoner named as replacement for final rounds. Who would win PI then eh?

I call bullshit
but I hope I am wrong.

steveyb

2nd October 2015, 14:19

Autech

2nd October 2015, 14:39

pritch

2nd October 2015, 14:49

It seems that Kropotkin thinks the fat lady has been sent back to the dressing room. The bugger's been reading KB :whistle:

husaberg

2nd October 2015, 14:53

According to David Emmett

There will be more Mahindras on the grid in 2016, with Moto3 teams abandoning Honda because of cost considerations. Though the price of bikes, engines and parts are capped, it is rumored that running a Honda Moto3 bike costs somewhere between 400,000 and 500,000 euros a season.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/motogp-moto2-moto3-silly-season-update-2015/

And now for something completely different: the glorious new Moto3 Grand Prix class that will make us all forget those damn two-strokes.
I proudly present the Honda Moto3 price list: http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Honda_Moto3_Engine_Part_list_MR03GP_version_1.pdf
The above document shows the prices for the standard parts. Honda kit parts tend to be 'a bit' more expensive. But let's stick with the standard prices for now.
A standard piston sells for 1644.60 Euro; today that's NZ $ 2660 (and Honda will make you wait 4 months for the privilege).
And did you notice the price of a piston pin? 342.90 Euro ($ 555). Now who said Honda has no sense of humour? :killingme

This was over 3 years ago
The parts list doesn't work but if I ask nicely Frits might post a new one.
I had a basic look on the site but couldn't see it.

pritch

2nd October 2015, 16:00

Just listening to the MotoPod podcast and they were discussing Tito Rabat's work ethic. One of the speakers, a Spanish domiciled American, was saying that he goes to the Almeria track frequently, and every time he does so Rabat is circulating when they arrive and he is still circulating when they leave. The American was impressed and mentioned this to the guy in charge of the track and was asked, "Have you seen the new circuit"?

Rabat had been concerned about his ability in the wet and the few oportunities he gets to ride in rain due to the local climate, so a new small circuit with sprinklers has been built at the track. Now Rabat and anybody else can practice in the wet whenever they like.

Apparently Rabat's family have money, and there are those who attribute any success he has to the family cash, but better they considered the effort he puts in.

roogazza

2nd October 2015, 17:57

I call bullshit
but I hope I am wrong.

I think the poster was just throwing up a 'what if '.

Lorenzo and Rossi will only have eyes for each other me thinks ?

BMWST?

2nd October 2015, 18:14

I'm not saying JL is going to roll over and play dead, but he doesn't seem to have the 'throw it up the inside and see if it sticks' talent that MM and VR have demonstrated. Can you honestly see JL pulling a pass attempt in the last sector, like the one VR tried against Pedro at Aragon?
if it is VR i bet you the gloves will come off

husaberg

2nd October 2015, 18:25

husaberg

2nd October 2015, 18:32

whoops ...............

https://youtu.be/Vmtz9x_Zm5M

Autech

3rd October 2015, 17:21

2009 was the year I started watching the GP I think. I remember screaming myself horse at the tv during that battle.

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pritch

5th October 2015, 07:10

Jorge Lorenzo has damaged his left shoulder in training and will be heading to Motegi injured. How bad? Who knows?

There is a photo attached to the report which makes it look serious, but I think that photo is misleading and relates to one of his earlier collar bone injuries. The photo looks as if it was taken in the pits, people everywhere; much busier than training would be. Besides "training" could refer to an accident in his home gym.

Shaun Harris

5th October 2015, 07:22

onearmedbandit

5th October 2015, 07:59

Says here fell when training on a motorcycle.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/223785/1/shoulder-injury-scare-for-jorge-lorenzo.html

James Deuce

5th October 2015, 08:11

2009 was the year I started watching the GP I think. I remember screaming myself horse at the tv during that battle.

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Did you help your Uncle Jack off the horse first?

Shaun Harris

5th October 2015, 08:16

Says here fell when training on a motorcycle.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/223785/1/shoulder-injury-scare-for-jorge-lorenzo.html

the press will believe anything, and type about to get coverage. Seriously, if you injured your self a little bit, would you let the world know, so it actually gives your competitors a mental advantge, knowing that were not at your 100% best??? I am dam sure I would say nothing about it. Or is it that he is preparing to loose the championship and inventing more reasons as to why?

onearmedbandit

5th October 2015, 08:21

the press will believe anything, and type about to get coverage. Seriously, if you injured your self a little bit, would you let the world know, so it actually gives your competitors a mental advantge, knowing that were not at your 100% best??? I am dam sure I would say nothing about it. Or is it that he is preparing to loose the championship and inventing more reasons as to why?

He was seen at the airport flying out to Japan with his arm in a sling.

From a Spanish website...

The pilot environment has assured Motocuatro the injury " it is not serious " and that " certainly may run in Japan," the first of three consecutive races which hosts the World Cup calendar. Lorenzo has traveled today to Tokyo and to do it with his arm in a sling has triggered concern, however "is a preventive measure , so you can rest your arm on a long journey "

http://www.motocuatro.com/moto-gp/jorge-lorenzo-se-lesiona-entrenando-y-viaja-a-japon-con-un-esguince-en-el-hombro-izquierdo/

pritch

5th October 2015, 08:35

And the forecast is for rain. Lots.

Then again they can't get the forecast for the next day right, so forecasts several days out are interesting but...

pritch

5th October 2015, 10:27

Autech

5th October 2015, 11:27

"is a preventive measure , so you can rest your arm on a long journey."

Well since he will be travelling Business or First Class he won't have to deal with the close confines experienced in cattle class.

He will need to fend off the dirty peasants as they work their way through first class whilst boarding.

Shaun Harris

5th October 2015, 11:44

Badjelly

5th October 2015, 20:58

He will need to fend off the dirty peasants as they work their way through first class whilst boarding.

Not in first class. Not in the front half of business class either, on Air NZ. Unfortunately, when I travelled business class to London & back a few years ago, I was in the back half of business class. I must say one of the peasants was rather impertinent!

roogazza

6th October 2015, 07:14

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/10/04/will_cheats_prosper_how_inertial_platfor.html

Next years changes.......

Shaun Harris

6th October 2015, 07:42

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/10/04/will_cheats_prosper_how_inertial_platfor.html

Next years changes.......

Using his example of lean angles and tourqe values, I think it is bullshit that the teams cannot adjust this legally. Some chassis/riders/suspension set up is better than others, so why should the rider bike manufacturer be penallised for there better skills? it is Moto gp the peak of the sport is it not.

roogazza

6th October 2015, 08:32

Using his example of lean angles and tourqe values, I think it is bullshit that the teams cannot adjust this legally. Some chassis/riders/suspension set up is better than others, so why should the rider bike manufacturer be penallised for there better skills? it is Moto gp the peak of the sport is it not.

It's going to be interesting to see how the French rubber will affect things.Like is Lorenzo going to get his edge grip?
Anyway can't wait to see the 3 GPs over the next three weeks.:shifty:

Shaun Harris

6th October 2015, 10:37

It's going to be interesting to see how the French rubber will affect things.Like is Lorenzo going to get his edge grip?
Anyway can't wait to see the 3 GPs over the next three weeks.:shifty:

Mich will be just as Current mate, lots of choices of tires for different effect. Michelin are no fools, even if they are dam French. And heel yea, the remaining rounds are going to be awsome barring an incident for the top 2 that matter now really. Hey, they all matter, but guess you know what I mean.

pritch

6th October 2015, 17:55

It has been reported that Rabat has broken his arm, he has had surgery but is doubtful for Motegi.

Shaun Harris

6th October 2015, 19:37

It has been reported that Rabat has broken his arm, he has had surgery but is doubtful for Motegi.

linki, where did you read that Ron. Hey, you must come around for a coffee one day soon mate, same place as last visit.

puddytat

6th October 2015, 19:37

Bugger.......

Shaun Harris

6th October 2015, 23:03

Fractured his wrist so a little crack maybe, and has had it plated and will ride.

Learn some thing new every day, and some thing use full every 6 months or so, to follow is conversation with an x ray specialist

Shaun Harris Fractured, Not broken. Major difference
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Joan Williams
Joan Williams There is no difference. Broken is a layman's term, fractured is a medical term. I was a Radiographer.
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Shaun Harris
Shaun Harris to the layman there is. Go and break a broom handle, then crack a broom handle, big difference, but scemantics really
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Joan Williams
Joan Williams There are different types of fractures, but Rabat is too old to have a greenstick fracture like kids get when the break is not completely through the bone. If they have had to plate it to stabilise it then it's a complete fracture.

lol, you would have thought I may know about broken bones and termanologies

pritch

7th October 2015, 09:01

lol, you would have thought I may know about broken bones and termanologies

Rabat has broken his radius which is one of the two bones in the forearm.

Topic of the day on Twitter today: Milandri can't get a ride anywhere so is offering to ride for free. Sorta sad for a GP winner really, maybe he should try BSB?

roogazza

7th October 2015, 09:45

Rabat has broken his radius which is one of the two bones in the forearm.

Topic of the day on Twitter today: Milandri can't get a ride anywhere so is offering to ride for free. Sorta sad for a GP winner really, maybe he should try BSB?

Little bit sad to see riders hang on too long pritch ? Maybe he burnt some bridges along the way ?
(Melandri).
I see Stroud is coming back (you'd have to bet on him winning straight off ) . But will it mean the same to him I wonder ?
Not exactly Motogp I know.

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 10:00

Rabat has broken his radius which is one of the two bones in the forearm.

Topic of the day on Twitter today: Milandri can't get a ride anywhere so is offering to ride for free. Sorta sad for a GP winner really, maybe he should try BSB?

Not sad at all I say, he is disliked where ever he has been as a rider, and now wants to dumb the sport down, by offering his services for free, what a wanker

Drew

7th October 2015, 10:15

I see Stroud is coming back (you'd have to bet on him winning straight off ) . But will it mean the same to him I wonder ?
Not exactly Motogp I know.
I'll put my money on the other Suzuki rider. He does pay me that money though, so it might balance out.

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 10:25

I'll put my money on the other Suzuki rider. He does pay me that money though, so it might balance out.

History tells me to go with Andy also, due to his consistency. That is the one thing the other rider has not established as yet. ( NOT Knocking him at all ) And I also bet there is a great Bonus deal in place for Andy to win, which when it is your real job, naturally makes you work that bit harder.

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 10:25

There's another Suzuki rider ? is that the young fella that won last year ?
Or is that Shaun, the other Works,Factory rider ??? Just joshin !!!!!! :bleh:

My guess is Sloan dude:Police:

Drew

7th October 2015, 10:35

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 11:00

I'm hoping Andrew is as fast as ever...and Sloan takes a dog fight to the old boy. They ride totally different, and in a scrap I think Chop's approach is better.

Anyhoo, go Rossi!

will be interesting to see if Sloan has adapted his riding style, to be more relaxed physically on the bike, rather than they way I saw it in the past, as very rigid actually. His old/current style would be cool for fast very smooth tracks, but that is not the nz tracks nature.

YUP, go VR I say also, would be great for him and the sport to bag a 10th one.

husaberg

7th October 2015, 12:12

Rabat has broken his radius which is one of the two bones in the forearm.

Topic of the day on Twitter today: Milandri can't get a ride anywhere so is offering to ride for free. Sorta sad for a GP winner really, maybe he should try BSB?

He was not only a GP winner he was runner up in the Moto GP championship and a former 250 World Champion.
According to the wags he was linked with 2016 Yamaha WSB prior to the split.

Autech

7th October 2015, 12:25

History tells me to go with Andy also, due to his consistency. That is the one thing the other rider has not established as yet. ( NOT Knocking him at all ) And I also bet there is a great Bonus deal in place for Andy to win, which when it is your real job, naturally makes you work that bit harder.

Lets hope the young gun shows him how it's done. All you old farts will be cheering on Andy of course though.
That said I remember him once making his way from the back of the Ruapuna SBK grid to the front in one lap when he was angry with the MNZ officials. Andy got maaaad skills!

He was not only a GP winner he was runner up in the Moto GP championship and a former 250 World Champion.
According to the wags he was linked with 2016 Yamaha WSB prior to the split.

He will find a ride, excluding the failed attempt at Aprillia GP he was properly on form in WSBK. He won on a Yamaha, BMW and Aprillia...
I mean look at how waaamp waaaamp the Aprilia's have been this year, though I doubt there was a rider on the grid capable of stopping Rea on the Kwaka.

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 12:34

He was not only a GP winner he was runner up in the Moto GP championship and a former 250 World Champion.
According to the wags he was linked with 2016 Yamaha WSB prior to the split.

That was just rumour dude. No factory team will take him on ever again

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 12:37

Lets hope the young gun shows him how it's done. All you old farts will be cheering on Andy of course though.
That said I remember him once making his way from the back of the Ruapuna SBK grid to the front in one lap when he was angry with the MNZ officials. Andy got maaaad skills!

He will find a ride, excluding the failed attempt at Aprillia GP he was properly on form in WSBK. He won on a Yamaha, BMW and Aprillia...
I mean look at how waaamp waaaamp the Aprilia's have been this year, though I doubt there was a rider on the grid capable of stopping Rea on the Kwaka.

I seriously would love to see Sloan win it. He is great for the sport and runs a very professional ship. But Andy is like a true Brother to me, have known him very well since he was only 17, so it natural that I route for him

Drew

7th October 2015, 12:39

pritch

7th October 2015, 12:45

According to the wags he was linked with 2016 Yamaha WSB prior to the split.

He might have contributed to that by posting a photo of a Yamaha branded item with no comment.

Oh, and it's probably just that I particularly remembered his GP win 'cause I was there watching it.

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 12:59

He might have contributed to that by posting a photo of a Yamaha branded item with no comment.

Oh, and it's probably just that I particularly remembered his GP win 'cause I was there watching it.

I saw that as him, trying to get the tongues waging to try and get him the ride Ron

Autech

7th October 2015, 13:35

He was right to be angry, he was wrong to be on track though.

From memory he crashed (very rare thing) on the left hander before nannas. The race got stopped for what ever reason so he wanted to rejoin, he rejoined but they made him start from the back. So by just after the hairpin he'd passed the whole lot of em. Went on to win the race but did they cancel his result? Good viewing regardless!

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 13:44

From memory he crashed (very rare thing) on the left hander before nannas. The race got stopped for what ever reason so he wanted to rejoin, he rejoined but they made him start from the back. So by just after the hairpin he'd passed the whole lot of em. Went on to win the race but did they cancel his result? Good viewing regardless!

I do vaguely recall some thing about Andy riding down the pit lane in the wrong direction i year haha, if he had been at riders briefing, he may have known that was a no no lol And all re start grid positions, are meant to be in the order race stopped in 1 lap prior to red flag. I got screwed over there years back, by the club re starting the race way out side the re start time frame, and allowing tony Rees back into the race, that he had broken down in 2 laps prior, and they awarded him points that i was not aware of, meaning I lost the sbk title by 3 points, when tech I should won the champs by12 points, go figure

Drew

7th October 2015, 13:51

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 14:07

Autech

7th October 2015, 14:19

If you crash and cause a red flag, you can't restart the race. That's what I think the rule was.

However, the officials couldn't find a copy of the rules before the restart to confirm. So he got no points but got let out on the track. Whole thing was a clusterfuck.

FUSTERCLUCK!

I have never see that rule in NZ before, but also have been out the game a long time now. I do agree with it though!

Not sure if he caused it though, I'm pretty sure two other chaps went and binned it after him which brought it out. Anyways, water under the bridge, whilst running off the ducks back.

roogazza

7th October 2015, 17:13

He might have contributed to that by posting a photo of a Yamaha branded item with no comment.

Oh, and it's probably just that I particularly remembered his GP win 'cause I was there watching it.

Be ready for the earlier time Sunday pritch. Starting 1445 hrs going by the Sky mag.:banana:

Also if you watch Qual (I rarely bother), I think that comes in at around 1630hrs.

Luckylegs

7th October 2015, 18:14

Rabat has broken his radius which is one of the two bones in the forearm.

Topic of the day on Twitter today: Milandri can't get a ride anywhere so is offering to ride for free. Sorta sad for a GP winner really, maybe he should try BSB?

Ok, so I'm biased cos I like Melandri despite him looking a bit of a douche over the GP fissco however - To be fair, his comment about riding for free was about him being picky rather than desperate

Luckylegs

7th October 2015, 18:20

Oh! In other news - Someone tell Crasher his Box of steinies is not far away now...

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 18:27

Be ready for the earlier time Sunday pritch. Starting 1445 hrs going by the Sky mag.:banana:

Also if you watch Qual (I rarely bother), I think that comes in at around 1630hrs.

Qual is one of the very best parts of the sport man, you can pick up on tactics and diff things

Shaun Harris

7th October 2015, 18:29

Ok, so I'm biased cos I like Melandri despite him looking a bit of a douche over the GP fissco however - To be fair, his comment about riding for free was about him being picky rather than desperate

It actually comes from the fact that he has shit loads of family money in the bank, and does not really need a wage

pritch

7th October 2015, 18:57

Be ready for the earlier time Sunday pritch. Starting 1445 hrs going by the Sky mag.:banana:

Also if you watch Qual (I rarely bother), I think that comes in at around 1630hrs.

Yep. I was going to post reminding everyone not to get carried away watching the racing taxis and thereby miss the GP. Some of the SKY info is confusing but Tokyo is four hours behind us and the Dorna website lines up with that.

Qualifying is easier to watch now it's only fifteen minutes long but things can still hot up in the last few minutes.

BMWST?

7th October 2015, 19:10

Yep. I was going to post reminding everyone not to get carried away watching the racing taxis and thereby miss the GP. Some of the SKY info is confusing but Tokyo is four hours behind us and the Dorna website lines up with that.

Qualifying is easier to watch now it's only fifteen minutes long but things can still hot up in the last few minutes.
ii actually like q2??? qualifying for the second half of the feild,there have been a few late runs there ,sometimes with no response,much to the chagrin of MM and Dovi to name but two

pritch

7th October 2015, 19:52

Both Q1 and Q2 can be good.

Q2 is the top ten riders ranked from their fastest laps in FP1, FP2 and FP3.
FP4 does not count toward that ranking.

Q1 is the rest trying to be one of the two fastest riders who will then go through to Q2.
They had better hope they have enough of whatever tyres they need in Q2, 'cause that isn't always the case.

Erelyes

8th October 2015, 13:45

Q1 is the rest trying to be one of the two fastest riders who will then go through to Q2.
They had better hope they have enough of whatever tyres they need in Q2, 'cause that isn't always the case.

Occasionally it'll rain during FP1/2 and one of the aliens will have a mare or bin it during FP3/4 so end up in Q1 as well. That makes things interesting :sunny:

mulletman

8th October 2015, 21:11

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/223870/1/official-nicky-hayden-swaps-motogp-for-wsbk.html

Mental Trousers

8th October 2015, 22:27

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/223870/1/official-nicky-hayden-swaps-motogp-for-wsbk.html

He's not going to win it on the current CBR that's for sure. The move is overdue though and that's coming from a fan of Nicky Hayden.

jasonu

9th October 2015, 04:28

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/223870/1/official-nicky-hayden-swaps-motogp-for-wsbk.html

Nicky who cares Hayden

Autech

9th October 2015, 13:51

Lets hope Hayden can become the first double champion, though the bike unfortunately isn't the best on the grid. It still can pull out some surprises though so he should have a laugh on it.

pritch

9th October 2015, 14:07

Autech

9th October 2015, 14:55

Lorenzo's shoulder doesn't seem to be bothering him much. In FP1 he has reeled off a longish series of laps at up to .4 faster than anybody else.

Rabat has been cleared to ride.

Danny Kent could possibly tie up the title this weekend. Basically he needs to win or place second, and Bastianini DNF. It's slightly more complicated than that but that's the general idea.

Check out the top speed of the Suzuki:

1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 45.432s [Lap 15/15] 300km/h (Top Speed)
2. Andrea Iannone ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 45.827s +0.395s [16/18] 311km/h
3. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 45.844s +0.412s [13/19] 299km/h
4. Bradley Smith GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 45.888s +0.456s [19/19] 305km/h
5. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 45.896s +0.464s [9/17] 305km/h
6. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 45.947s +0.515s [11/17] 308km/h
7. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 45.965s +0.533s [11/17] 305km/h
8. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 46.234s +0.802s [16/17] 298km/h

That's not too bad considering the multiple straights on this circuit. Lets hope they've given him some extra yahoo's for this race.
That said this is only FP1 and the others will surely go faster soon, still, promising...

carbonhed

9th October 2015, 16:42

Lets hope Hayden can become the first double champion, though the bike unfortunately isn't the best on the grid. It still can pull out some surprises though so he should have a laugh on it.

I thought I heard it was a new Blade next year? About time!

Personally think he'll have his work cut out against Rea. Another double last weekend... and he just punted Sykes out of the way in race 1 :yes:

pritch

9th October 2015, 17:54

Rabat tried but couldn't make it work. Zarco is 2015 Moto2 Champion.

carbonhed

9th October 2015, 18:05

All Rossi has to do is qualify on the front row, lead into turn one and control the race from the front... simples.

pritch

9th October 2015, 18:07

Mat Oxley posted this. OK it's not a GP bike, it's the Suzuka Eight Hour winner. Looks like it would be quite handy on the road. :ride:

Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 08:01

I thought I heard it was a new Blade next year? About time!

Personally think he'll have his work cut out against Rea. Another double last weekend... and he just punted Sykes out of the way in race 1 :yes:

Only new Japa Big bore bike for 2016 is the NEW released yesterday Kawi ZX10 No Suzuki No Honda No Yam

Autech

10th October 2015, 09:56

Only new Japa Big bore bike for 2016 is the NEW released yesterday Kawi ZX10 No Suzuki No Honda No Yam

Correct, the new Blade is due for 2015.

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Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 10:00

Correct, the new Blade is due for 2015.

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LOL, 2017 I think ya meant

Crasherfromwayback

10th October 2015, 11:02

Lorenzo

Pedro

Crazy Joe

Rossi

MM

Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 11:26

Lorenzo

Pedro

Crazy Joe

Rossi

MM

Good call if Dry

BMWST?

10th October 2015, 12:18

dry mm(or crash),Jlo,DP,VR,ducati,if wet ...a lottery but prolly VR

pritch

10th October 2015, 14:22

They tell us the Motegi circuit has more corners requiring heavy braking than is normal. Seems like Lorenzo believes it?

BMWST?

10th October 2015, 14:30

qualifying 4 30 this arvo people!

pritch

10th October 2015, 16:30

And the Ducati has sprouted more winglets: two sets each side now. Actually the new winglets are in two seperate parts, so depending how you count them there could already be three sets. That's more wings than anybody since the Red Baron.

Any more and the riders will need a pilots licence. :whistle:

Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 18:31

Rossi is such a freak

husaberg

10th October 2015, 18:49

Rossi is such a freak
Front row now this is going to be interesting if there was something Rossi hasn't done well lately its qualifying.
It looks like Jorge going to have to actually Race Rossi

Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 18:59

Front row now this is going to be interesting if there was something Rossi hasn't done well lately its qualifying.
It looks like Jorge going to have to actually Race Rossi

Yea man, it is going to be a awesome Race, as long as Vr gets away well, which he normally does. The Suzuki top speed is impressing me, near on identical to the Yamaha's

husaberg

10th October 2015, 19:04

Yea man, it is going to be a awesome Race, as long as Vr gets away well, which he normally does. The Suzuki top speed is impressing me, near on identical to the Yamaha's

Suzukis and Ducati have a bit of an concession advantage with the fuel and the soft softs Suzuki plus (Aprilia)and electronics and open during season engine development there though
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/03/23/the_2015_motogp_rules_primer_engines_fue.html

But if its going to be a race well My money is on the old racer