MotoGP 2015 [Archive] - Page 12

Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 19:28

Suzukis and Ducati have a bit of an concession advantage with the fuel and the soft softs Suzuki plus (Aprilia)and electronics and open during season engine development there though
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/03/23/the_2015_motogp_rules_primer_engines_fue.html

But if its going to be a race well My money is own the old racer

I know that dude, but this is Suzuki's 1st season back, and Ducati are a FULL FACTORY team with loads of time on track, they should not have ever been allowed the concession I say

husaberg

10th October 2015, 19:33

I know that dude, but this is Suzuki's 1st season back, and Ducati are a FULL FACTORY team with loads of time on track, they should not have ever been allowed the concession I say

yeah but its based on the results as they haven't achieved them over the last couple of years to tell you the truth the actual worst thing they could for next season do is actually win a race this year. Sad but true.
Pretty sure they even had Soft softs last year.

pritch

10th October 2015, 19:42

Well sometimes my memory ain't what it was - but I can't remember a better Q2 than that.

Rossi was worried about the Ducs getting between him and Lorenzo. He went about ensuring that they didn't in the best possible way. Twice this year in Q2, when worried, he has headed out on track right at the head of the field. Twice it has served him well. Why doesn't he do that every time? Who fucking knows?

I'm not picking a finishing order. When I pick somebody their career goes into decline.

Don't believe me? My MCN fantasy team this year included Marquez, Sykes, and Byrne. All Champions last year. Two of the three other riders in my team lost their rides. In the light of all that I'm reluctant to make any predictions. Just hoping for a good race.

Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 19:51

yeah but its based on the results as they haven't achieved them over the last couple of years to tell you the truth the actual worst thing they could for next season do is actually win a race this year. Sad but true.
Pretty sure they even had Soft softs last year.

Yes true again, but, still bloody wrong! Ducati manager just used the rules to there benefit and good on kinda for that. But I call it a weasels trick really, kinda like a king hit, rather than a punch to the face. They are Factory! Simple as that

puddytat

10th October 2015, 19:55

Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 19:56

[QUOTE=pritch;1130910535]Well sometimes my memory ain't what it was - but I can't remember a better Q2 than that.

Rossi was worried about the Ducs getting between him and Lorenzo. He went about ensuring that they didn't in the best possible way. Twice this year in Q2, when worried, he has headed out on track right at the head of the field. Twice it has served him well. Why doesn't he do that every time? Who fucking knows?

I am picking because he is so old compared to others for a start, and needs to find that last % of hunger in is heart to commit like is necessary to perform at that level at the top. He obviously 100% wants that 10th title, and I say he is going to be 2015 Champion mate, unless MM fuks up and takes him out by trying to hard again, but doubt that will happen in Japan, as MM MUST at least finish this race in Japan for Honda.

Suzuki for a top 5

Shaun Harris

10th October 2015, 19:58

Yeah that was very exciting & we are in for a very interesting day of racing tomorrow.
I wonder how D'angelis is doing....fingers crossed. Smith was lucky with that second off, was doing well over 200

Here ya go

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/alex-de-angelis-airlifted-to-hospital/

Thanks to motorsport com

Autech

10th October 2015, 20:25

Lets hope he is ok. Odd place to crash...

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carbonhed

10th October 2015, 20:39

Wow! The gloves are off. Rossi looked super relieved in parc ferme.

MM looks like a catastrophe waiting to happen.

BMWST?

10th October 2015, 21:17

Wow! The gloves are off. Rossi looked super relieved in parc ferme.

MM looks like a catastrophe waiting to happen.

like he has all year really!

The End

10th October 2015, 21:49

They tell us the Motegi circuit has more corners requiring heavy braking than is normal. Seems like Lorenzo believes it?

Interesting video explaining the brakes for Motegi

https://www.facebook.com/devino.class/videos/1502625683368848

speights_bud

10th October 2015, 22:20

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/10/alex-de-angelis-undergoing-treatment-after-fp4-crash/186519

"Alex underwent a CT scan and has been diagnosed with lung contusion after preliminary analysis, further checks revealed several rib fractures. A spinal CT scan revealed fractures to the T7-T8-T9 vertebrae, a body fracture to L4 and transversal process fractures to T2,4 and 8."

Poor bugger :no:

I had to google most of the described injuries as I have no clue apart from 'T#' designation of vertebrae.
Transverse process fractures. http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/low-back-pain/transverse-process-fracture)
Body Fracture to L4. http://morphopedics.wikidot.com/fractures-of-the-l4-l5-vertebrae

husaberg

10th October 2015, 22:24

Interesting video explaining the brakes for Motegi

https://www.facebook.com/devino.class/videos/1502625683368848

They need to brakes as the bikes are porkers now. 150KG
The 500's used to be 120KG till they increased the weights in the Harris/ROC era to 130 kg. Pretty sure they were even lighter in the early 80's. Checks... they were 115kg.
They used to have to ballast the works bikes even then at those weights. The 500 twins were 105kg.
Pretty sure the 1990s superbikes were even lighter than the current motogp bikes are now.

Drew

11th October 2015, 08:09

They need to brakes as the bikes are porkers now. 150KG
The 500's used to be 120KG till they increased the weights in the Harris/ROC era to 130 kg. Pretty sure they were even lighter in the early 80's. Checks... they were 115kg.
They used to have to ballast the works bikes even then at those weights. The 500 twins were 105kg.
Pretty sure the 1990s superbikes were even lighter than the current motogp bikes are now.

They used to ride the differently though. The tyres couldn't hold on with the back wheel off the ground right to the apex. I would bet a cooked breakfast that available grip is a far greater factor in how much brake force is used, than the difference in weight between old and new bikes.

GP racers used to be full sized men who barely knew what a treadmill was, with a couple of obvious exceptions. The 30kgs the bikes now have over the 2 strokes, is like only adding a total of 10 or 15 to bike and rider total.

Grumph

11th October 2015, 08:20

They need to brakes as the bikes are porkers now. 150KG
The 500's used to be 120KG till they increased the weights in the Harris/ROC era to 130 kg. Pretty sure they were even lighter in the early 80's. Checks... they were 115kg.
They used to have to ballast the works bikes even then at those weights. The 500 twins were 105kg.
Pretty sure the 1990s superbikes were even lighter than the current motogp bikes are now.

I'd argue that the power to weight ratio now is probably slightly better than the last of the 500's. Torque is up massively from the 2T's as well. Which is why electronics are now so important as the contact patch hasn't got a lot bigger.. 750/1000 WSB was from memory, 142kg dry.

Rob McElney was probably the biggest 500 pilot - over 6 foot - and to quote someone "drafted like a truck..." No one that size is going to get a ride now IMO.

george formby

11th October 2015, 09:08

roogazza

11th October 2015, 09:27

Go Rossi !!!!!!!

Hope the rain stays away. Cant wait.

:drool::drool:

pritch

11th October 2015, 09:45

Hope the rain stays away.

Ground conditions half an hour ago. (10.15AM ish here 6.15 there.)

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 10:13

Ground conditions half an hour ago. (10.15AM ish here 6.15 there.)

with massive humidity

sil3nt

11th October 2015, 10:22

Hope the race is in mixed conditions to spice things up a bit.

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 11:06

Hope the race is in mixed conditions to spice things up a bit.

I hate it when that shit happens, yea it is entertaining for us, but all kinds of decisions can interfere in the result, compared to a start and finish race, which is a real race to me, and not gambles good and bad decisions as such

eelracing

11th October 2015, 11:35

I hate it when that shit happens, yea it is entertaining for us, but all kinds of decisions can interfere in the result, compared to a start and finish race, which is a real race to me, and not gambles good and bad decisions as such

Still mindfucks Jorge tho

eelracing

11th October 2015, 11:47

They used to ride the differently though. The tyres couldn't hold on with the back wheel off the ground right to the apex.

The good riders never needed to, they scrubbed speed off with the front sliding to the apex...lightweight can be forgiving like that.

husaberg

11th October 2015, 12:03

I'd argue that the power to weight ratio now is probably slightly better than the last of the 500's. Torque is up massively from the 2T's as well. Which is why electronics are now so important as the contact patch hasn't got a lot bigger.. 750/1000 WSB was from memory, 142kg dry.

Rob McElney was probably the biggest 500 pilot - over 6 foot - and to quote someone "drafted like a truck..." No one that size is going to get a ride now IMO.

Likely as the 200HP 2 strokes were required by the rules to be 140kg by then (rather than 115kg) and the Moto GP bikes are more powerful and torguey simply as they are a lot bigger engines.
The electronics are a bit of a red hearing as the current electronics are a lot better smaller and lighter if the two strokes likely needed them more.
Terry Rymer who filled in for Suzuki when kevin was injured was 6.2 Schwantz look lanky but it appears was only 5.10.
Of the current crop Rossi is at least 5.11 might be even taller.

husaberg

11th October 2015, 12:12

They used to ride the differently though. The tyres couldn't hold on with the back wheel off the ground right to the apex. I would bet a cooked breakfast that available grip is a far greater factor in how much brake force is used, than the difference in weight between old and new bikes.

GP racers used to be full sized men who barely knew what a treadmill was, with a couple of obvious exceptions. The 30kgs the bikes now have over the 2 strokes, is like only adding a total of 10 or 15 to bike and rider total.

Doohan used to run 10km before breakfast. Rainey trained as hard or harder than most do now as did Kokinski.
They used to slide the bikes as it was faster to square of the corners to lengthen the straights plus it was safer not to push the front which is why the dirt track Americans and the Aussies dominated over the Europeans.
This was not such an issue after the big bang era as the electronics and the tires improved and allowed a 250 style.
The brakes rate of work is more based on the weight of what its stopping and the speed, rather than grip.

pritch

11th October 2015, 12:24

Well the rain in Japan falls mainly on Motegi? Moto3 warmup postponed due to rain. Brollies everywhere and the riders wearing plastic tops.

Interesting. Well interesting for us who aren't getting a wet arse and don't have a world championship at stake.

As has just been pointed out by the commentators the delay is not due to the rain, it's due to the accompanying mist. There are two "ambulance" helicopters but they can't take off if they can't see. So until they can fly there will be no action on track.

pritch

11th October 2015, 13:43

After a two hour delay Moto 3 out now for 10 minute qualifying, to be followed by Moto2 at 3.00Pm our time.
Moto3 race reduced to 13 laps from 20.

jasonu

11th October 2015, 13:55

316496
Ground conditions half an hour ago. (10.15AM ish here 6.15 there.)

Fucking excellent!!!!!

pritch

11th October 2015, 14:02

They have decided to race even though the helicopters are still unable to fly. Due to the improved medical facilities at the track, the distance to the nearest hospital, the availability of ambulances and the local police having assured them of full cooperation to clear the way. With the approval of the FIM the racing will get underway.

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 14:08

After a two hour delay Moto 3 out now for 10 minute qualifying, to be followed by Moto2 at 3.00Pm our time.
Moto3 race reduced to 13 laps from 20.

It cannot be a 10 minute Qual man, that happened yesterday. It will be a scrub to adapt to the wet

bogan

11th October 2015, 14:32

BMWST?

11th October 2015, 14:48

The brakes rate of work is more based on the weight of what its stopping and the speed, rather than grip.

you better think about that again.The brakes "rate of work" is dependent on the grip.The ammount of energy the brakes need to absorb is only dependent on speed and weight the only thing which affects the "rate" of braking is the ammount of grip(this is assuming the rider is on the threshold of grip)If it is not very grippy he will take longer to scrub of the speed so the "rate" of braking is lower.

husaberg

11th October 2015, 15:11

you better think about that again.The brakes "rate of work" is dependent on the grip.The ammount of energy the brakes need to absorb is only dependent on speed and weight the only thing which affects the "rate" of braking is the ammount of grip(this is assuming the rider is on the threshold of grip)If it is not very grippy he will take longer to scrub of the speed so the "rate" of braking is lower.

Remember we were discussing why they need the 340mm in carbon
I don't go along with that in regards to what we were discussing, the reason they have to run the supersized brakes is not to do with the grip being so much better now than it ever was at all but is more to do with the increased weight of the bikes (plus some speed while you might argue the speed has increased as well due to the grip allowing faster acceleration and top speed it is mute.)
Have a look at super karts brakes they have less weight and yet more grip and have far smaller brakes.

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 16:19

They were made to run 340 discs, due to the smaller ones over heating often causing danger. A lot of it is due to the weight of the package trying to be stopped now, which used to over heat the smaller discs, hence the big ones. And look at a lot of the bikes, they have air ducts on them to direct the air flow to the calipers and discs, to get them under over heat temp which i9s aroung 900 odd I believe. most of them use the ducts any way

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 17:53

SPOILER ALERT

Go the little man, and the Boss builds more points

J.A.W.

11th October 2015, 18:02

SPOILER ALERT

Go the little man, and the Boss builds more points

Well done Dani-boi, picked up his 1/2 century of GP wins..

Featherweight does make a difference, in a hard braking/soft rubber/wet-dry race lottery..

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 18:03

Lorenzo

Pedro

Crazy Joe

Rossi

MM

Dam hard to guess it these days eh, which makes it very cool

pritch

11th October 2015, 18:17

It cannot be a 10 minute Qual man, that happened yesterday. It will be a scrub to adapt to the wet

Ooops 10 minute warm up. In mitigation may I say things kept changing. It was announced that there would be a 10 min Moto3 warmup, a short break, then the moto3 race. Then they went back to doing the three warm ups. Everybody was confused.

The problem with the weather in Motegi is that it's in the mountains and nothing attracts shite weather like mountains.

Autech

11th October 2015, 18:18

Masterclass...

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jasonu

11th October 2015, 18:20

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 18:22

Ooops 10 minute warm up. In mitigation may I say things kept changing. It was announced that there would be a 10 min Moto3 warmup, a short break, then the moto3 race. Then they went back to doing the three warm ups. Everybody was confused.

The problem with the weather in Motegi is that it's in the mountains and nothing attracts shite weather like mountains.

They would have been confused, whilst waiting for the FIM to say race or not with out the copters. Qual only ever the once as such.

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 18:24

You mean the promoters and sponsors said get the fucking show on the road or else...

And you seriously think the top riders would race under pressure if they thought it was not safe enough to do so, dreamer

bogan

11th October 2015, 18:30

And you seriously think the top riders would race under pressure if they thought it was not safe enough to do so, dreamer

Mind games mate, and if one says he won't, will the rest give up the chance for a points advantage?

PS, its somewhat courteous to avoid posting results immediately after the race, even with a spoiler alert the first time. As some of us have plans to chill out sunday evening watching it.

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 18:49

Mind games mate, and if one says he won't, will the rest give up the chance for a points advantage?

PS, its somewhat courteous to avoid posting results immediately after the race, even with a spoiler alert the first time. As some of us have plans to chill out sunday evening watching it.

And that was why I was courteous and DID NOT post the results, but if people are stupid enough to get on the internet before watching the race, tough luck to them I say, it is a full on internet world we live in these days. I will not see the actual race until tomorrow, but love to know the results anyway, and read what people say about, so as too make up my own mind who is full of shit and not on the net with there comments about what Johnny rotten or sid vicious said or did

GD66

11th October 2015, 18:56

... if people are stupid enough to get on the internet before watching the race, tough luck to them I say, it is a full on internet world we live in these days.

Hard to argue with ! And even if you stay off, some idiot mate usually rings up and blabs anyway...:laugh:

pritch

11th October 2015, 18:56

And look at a lot of the bikes, they have air ducts on them to direct the air flow to the calipers and discs,

Some of the MotoGP bikes had ducts fitted specifically for Motegi because of the heavy braking, Lorenzo f'rinstance. That would have been on "dry" setup. In the event I'm not sure they used them; they had water cooled brakes and the braking would be less umm enthusiastic(?) in the wet.

puddytat

11th October 2015, 18:57

That was right up on the excitement scale in all 3 classes....but the main course was very tasty indeed...

Anyone for Winglets?...

bogan

11th October 2015, 19:02

And that was why I was courteous and DID NOT post the results, but if people are stupid enough to get on the internet before watching the race, tough luck to them I say, it is a full on internet world we live in these days. I will not see the actual race until tomorrow, but love to know the results anyway, and read what people say about, so as too make up my own mind who is full of shit and not on the net with there comments about what Johnny rotten or sid vicious said or did

Hard to argue with ! And even if you stay off, some idiot mate usually rings up and blabs anyway...:laugh:

Don't get me wrong, I know there are discourteous arseholes everywhere; for the most part I do manage to avoid hearing results or whispers thereof. None of which changes my point though...

Anyway, maybe just something to think about for the upcoming races when the points are likely to come up a few notches in pressure :yes:

Virago

11th October 2015, 19:18

I won't get the chance to watch it until tomorrow evening, so could everyone refrain from discussing it until then. Ta.

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 19:28

I won't get the chance to watch it until tomorrow evening, so could everyone refrain from discussing it until then. Ta.

haha yea right captain

Autech

11th October 2015, 19:29

I won't get the chance to watch it until tomorrow evening, so could everyone refrain from discussing it until then. Ta.

Haha, or you could stay off KB like I do when I watch it late.

I managed to watch Bathurst AND the GP by flicking tween the two channels.

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carbonhed

11th October 2015, 20:20

Dani Pedrosa wins a wet race... who would ever have predicted that?

Chris Vermeulen must be shaking his head.

Shaun Harris

11th October 2015, 21:08

Hey, who am I

Orrrr, if it had not rained, I would have won, because I won practise

puddytat

11th October 2015, 21:10

And he is only 1 of 3 who have won 50 GP races.....& has won at least one race in all seasons of his career.
Good on the midget:yes:

Crasherfromwayback

11th October 2015, 21:13

Dam hard to guess it these days eh, which makes it very cool

Shit outcome for the fastest man all weekend.

puddytat

11th October 2015, 21:24

It was the Winglets fault....to much down pressure causing the wets of those who had winglets to degrade faster,
like Lorenzo & Dovi,whilst the likes of Vale & Danny didn't suffer as much......so someone said.

pritch

11th October 2015, 21:43

PS, its somewhat courteous to avoid posting results immediately after the race, even with a spoiler alert the first time.

Bogan, I'm sorry but it'd take a fairly thick bugger to come to this, the MotoGP thread, if they didn't want to know the result. Spoiler alerts may be appropriate elsewhere but if you come here you either already know or you don't mind knowing.

bogan

11th October 2015, 21:47

Bogan, I'm sorry but it'd take a fairly thick bugger to come to this, the MotoGP thread, if they didn't want to know the result. Spoiler alerts may be appropriate elsewhere but if you come here you either already know or you don't mind knowing.
It was in the feed actually. Which I only even glanced into enough to read cos the race isn't usually raced on sun. But anyway, kicking up a stink about spoilers acheived the desired result of muddling what said spoilers actually were so I enjoyed the race anyway [emoji14]

eelracing

12th October 2015, 05:38

Shit outcome for the fastest man all weekend.

Gobblegobbled up

jasonu

12th October 2015, 07:19

Hey, who am I

Less and less people care by the post...

Autech

12th October 2015, 08:10

And he is only 1 of 3 who have won 50 GP races.....& has won at least one race in all seasons of his career.
Good on the midget:yes:

Not to mention 3 titles.

Let's hope he keeps his form up, he finished will in 2011 (from memory) and 2012 was one of his top seasons where he may have clinched it without a bit of bad luck.

As stated previously, 2016 I think will be his final chance to win a title as there are a few young chaps, notably Miller, lining up to take his bike. I wont ever hold my breathe though, been let down too many times...

Lozenger hammered the tyres too early I think, if you look at how hard he pushed from the outset, as is his style to do so. Dani stated afterwards that he knew the tyre wear would be an issue so he worked into it slowly and kept his time constant. That and his riding style probably helped a lot.

I love how Lorenzo had already been called a masterclass by about lap 4 or 5 by Harris or his lacky, oh how were they wrong? Just goes to show how quickly things can change in GP. Still 3rd place aint bad, only issue for him was it was 3rd behind Rossi. He was lucky to not fall off when he went wide, he was about 10mm off the grass when he turned it around.

GO ROSSI!

sil3nt

12th October 2015, 08:29

Shaun Harris

12th October 2015, 09:34

Lorenzo didn't appear to even bother looking for water to cool the tyres. Pedrosa was quite often well off the racing line on the straights.

The tyres at the end of the race:
http://imgur.com/a/fAGqM

The race line is just that man, no point at that level, as you will loose so much any way being in the wrong spots

Shaun Harris

12th October 2015, 09:35

Less and less people care by the post...

O my ever so positive hero, Time to block your trash also then

Autech

12th October 2015, 11:04

The race line is just that man, no point at that level, as you will loose so much any way being in the wrong spots

Unless you are Van Gis who drove on the grass yesterday to cool off his tyres. Nutter.

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roogazza

12th October 2015, 11:44

Quote:Valentino Rossi took a dim view of Lorenzo's appeal to luck. "I think it is disrespectful to me to blame fate," Rossi told the Italian press. He could not resist taking a dig at his teammate when asked about tire preservation. "You could say I was more intelligent," Rossi answered. "But let's say that I am more lucky." Though the atmosphere in the Movistar Yamaha garage has been largely cordial throughout the year, now that the title is coming down to the final few races, the knives are coming out.

Mmmmm, Go Rossi, good result. Bit tuff on Lorenzo doin the Tom Sykes trick,but then Pedro is smiling again.
Aussie next ! :shifty:

pritch

12th October 2015, 11:49

Lorenzo didn't appear to even bother looking for water to cool the tyres. Pedrosa was quite often well off the racing line on the straights.

Yeah once or twice I saw riders move a few feet to one side or the other on the straights to get wet seal. Pedrosa's size would have helped him too, less weight on the front during braking.

Lorenzo stated the front tyre failing was due to his aggressive start. The commentators mentioned that someone had speculated that it was his winglets. No doubt that'll give everybody something to think about on the flight to Melbourne.

Speaking of front ends... Folowing all the front end crashes during testing of the Michelins Yamaha have moved the fuel tank on the 2016 M1 back to shift weight rearward.

husaberg

12th October 2015, 12:05

Yeah once or twice I saw riders move a few feet to one side or the other on the straights to get wet seal. Pedrosa's size would have helped him too, less weight on the front during braking.

Lorenzo stated the front tyre failing was due to his aggressive start. The commentators mentioned that someone had speculated that it was his winglets. No doubt that'll give everybody something to think about on the flight to Melbourne.

Speaking of front ends... Folowing all the front end crashes during testing of the Michelins Yamaha have moved the fuel tank on the 2016 M1 back to shift weight rearward.

There was talk about a week prior to the race that something in the set up of the forks of the Hondas makes it better at conserving the front tire life not sure why or what it is?
Maybe less front end weight distribution?

Autech

12th October 2015, 12:35

There was talk about a week prior to the race that something in the set up of the forks of the Hondas makes it better at conserving the front tire life not sure why or what it is?
Maybe less front end weight distribution?

Also remember Dani likes to stand up a bike ASAP and get on the GASSSSSS (couldn't resist) down the straight. That surely would help his tyre too.

If Lorenzo wants to whine about bad luck he needs to shut the fuck up pronto, old Dani P takes the cake on what it means to have bad luck...

Luck wins championships, but not tearing the arse out of your tyre also wins championships. Ask Sykes.

Shaun Harris

12th October 2015, 12:58

What happened to front tires on the Yamaha's is dead give away to Honda of the miss ballance they have, and where Yam are getting better cornering from I reckon.

vifferman

12th October 2015, 13:04

Dani stated afterwards that he knew the tyre wear would be an issue so he worked into it slowly and kept his time constant. That and his riding style probably helped a lot.
Not just that, but Dani's one of the lighter riders, so while it took a while for his tyres to get hot enough for decent grip, it also meant they didn't get hammered as much.

I love how Lorenzo had already been called a masterclass by about lap 4 or 5 by Harris or his lacky, oh how were they wrong?
You're forgetting summat: These dicks talk in cliches all the time, so they use "masterclass" and their other pet phrases ("36-year-old Italian", "Nine times World Champion", etc etc.) at least once in EVERY race. The poor vifferbabe is being remarkably patient with me yelling insults at them all the time for their lazy commentary. Yes, I've tried watching it with the commentary off, but I'm crap at keeping up with what's going on (short attention span? Early senility?), and it seems weird them racing without someone blathering on. I'm sure though that your average kiwibiker could do a better (and more entertaining) job. With more epithets. It needs more swearing, like, "MarcMarcMarc Marquez is being a dick again!", and "What a shitty overtaking manouevre that was!", and "Yup - he's fucked his bike properly this time; the hard-working mechanics will be pissed off!"

vifferman

12th October 2015, 13:11

Lorenzo stated the front tyre failing was due to his aggressive start.
Well, he used the same modus operandi he's used all season: try and get to the front, then go into automaton mode and keep the same lines, speed, change points etc. Unfortunately, he needed to modify this on account of the knobbly tyres not being up to hundreds of km of Lorenzoing.

Shaun Harris

12th October 2015, 13:13

Well, he used the same modus operandi he's used all season: try and get to the front, then go into automaton mode and keep the same lines, speed, change points etc. Unfortunately, he needed to modify this on account of the knobbly tyres not being up to hundreds of km of Lorenzoing.

His race craft is to leed, to be able to control his lines choice, but other fast riders like him, can actually race and make passes

husaberg

12th October 2015, 13:25

Also remember Dani likes to stand up a bike ASAP and get on the GASSSSSS (couldn't resist) down the straight. That surely would help his tyre too.

If Lorenzo wants to whine about bad luck he needs to shut the fuck up pronto, old Dani P takes the cake on what it means to have bad luck...

Luck wins championships, but not tearing the arse out of your tyre also wins championships. Ask Sykes.
Yes but it was about all the Hondas rather than just the midget.
I read something the other day about Ben spies braking effect on tyres http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Aug/140804spiesgoeswsbk.htm
Lorenzo rides 250 esk swooping style where it seems Rossi can change his style to suit conditions better.
Riders who are constantly pushing the front on big bikes seem to have less years of success. IMO

What happened to front tires on the Yamaha's is dead give away to Honda of the miss ballance they have, and where Yam are getting better cornering from I reckon.

Yes admittedly, but I suspect with the Honda I think a too abrupt power delivery is also an issue. I know they earlier went back to last years frame for Marquez at least.

The Honda would be constrained with the engine position due to configuration but likely less so than the Ducati.
I had a feeling on the 2015 they moved the engine back but no idea why they would, unless it was to suit the point and squirt Gardner esk style of Predro.
Burgess and Rossi were always firm believers in smooth power delivery being far more important than more HP delivered more aggressively.

pritch

12th October 2015, 13:44

These dicks talk in cliches all the time, so they use "masterclass" and their other pet phrases ("36-year-old Italian", "Nine times World Champion", etc etc.) at least once in EVERY race.

Yesterday for two hours there was nothing happening and nobody knew anything. The commentators must have worn every cliche in the book threadbare. To be fair though, to talk for two hours without a bloody clue as to what the situation is must be really hard. The cameras don't help much, there's only so much you can say about people sitting in the rain, flag marshals waving flags to amuse themselves, etc etc.

The riders and crew went through a process that started with a sort of bemused amusement and moved quickly to boredom. All the time though the commentators have to keep talking. You could feel the relief when the first Moto3 engine fired up - once it had been made clear that the TV shedule required action, so action there must be.

Shaun Harris

12th October 2015, 13:53

Yesterday for two hours there was nothing happening and nobody knew anything. The commentators must have worn every cliche in the book threadbare. To be fair though, to talk for two hours without a bloody clue as to what the situation is must be really hard. The cameras don't help much, there's only so much you can say about people sitting in the rain, flag marshals waving flags to amuse themselves, etc etc.

The riders and crew went through a process that started with a sort of bemused amusement and moved quickly to boredom. All the time though the commentators have to keep talking. You could feel the relief when the first Moto3 engine fired up - once it had been made clear that the TV shedule required action, so action there must be.

Re the commentators, personally, I think they do a bloody good job. No one will ever be perfect for ever one out there, and in the heat of the moment, it is easy to get words wrong when doing there job.

onearmedbandit

12th October 2015, 14:14

Re the commentators, personally, I think they do a bloody good job. No one will ever be perfect for ever one out there, and in the heat of the moment, it is easy to get words wrong when doing there job.

Agreed, and no doubt they have to follow some sort of 'script'.

Oscar

12th October 2015, 14:24

Re the commentators, personally, I think they do a bloody good job. No one will ever be perfect for ever one out there, and in the heat of the moment, it is easy to get words wrong when doing there job.

Normally I don't mind them, but I did get a bit pissed when they were giving the race to JL after only eight or nine laps.

vifferman

12th October 2015, 15:18

Yesterday for two hours there was nothing happening and nobody knew anything. The commentators must have worn every cliche in the book threadbare. To be fair though, to talk for two hours without a bloody clue as to what the situation is must be really hard.
I didn't watch all that - just the races. Yes, they do an OKish job (I admit I couldn't do better), but it just grates hearing some of the absolute bollocks they talk. Remember - they're not amateurs; presumably they're paid some good coin for this.
I'm just so SO over "so so" as an 'intensifier'. What about "very", or "extremely", "exceptionally", "toldless", "munteringly", or "fucking heaps"?.
Why can't he get 'Bastianini' right, instead of "Bastiaianini"?
Why doesn't he just STFU occasionally? Or retire? I'd rather listen to some sexy woman's voice than his grating, nasally tone. Be better for my blood pressure. FFS, it cost enough to have my foofoo pump overhauled - it'd be a shame if it exploded because he said "Bastiaiainini is going so so fast" one time too many.

onearmedbandit

12th October 2015, 15:21

I didn't watch all that - just the races. Yes, they do an OKish job (I admit I couldn't do better), but it just grates hearing some of the absolute bollocks they talk. Remember - they're not amateurs; presumably they're paid some good coin for this.
I'm just so SO over "so so" as an 'intensifier'. What about "very", or "extremely", "exceptionally", "toldless", "munteringly", or "fucking heaps"?.
Why can't he get 'Bastianini' right, instead of "Bastiaianini"?
Why doesn't he just STFU occasionally? Or retire? I'd rather listen to some sexy woman's voice than his grating, nasally tone. Be better for my blood pressure. FFS, it cost enough to have my foofoo pump overhauled - it'd be a shame if it exploded because he said "Bastiaiainini is going so so fast" one time too many.

Chill. It's easier to change how you react than change other people...

Shaun Harris

12th October 2015, 15:43

I didn't watch all that - just the races. Yes, they do an OKish job (I admit I couldn't do better), but it just grates hearing some of the absolute bollocks they talk. Remember - they're not amateurs; presumably they're paid some good coin for this.
I'm just so SO over "so so" as an 'intensifier'. What about "very", or "extremely", "exceptionally", "toldless", "munteringly", or "fucking heaps"?.
Why can't he get 'Bastianini' right, instead of "Bastiaianini"?
Why doesn't he just STFU occasionally? Or retire? I'd rather listen to some sexy woman's voice than his grating, nasally tone. Be better for my blood pressure. FFS, it cost enough to have my foofoo pump overhauled - it'd be a shame if it exploded because he said "Bastiaiainini is going so so fast" one time too many.

I dear dear dear, turn the volume down then to save your tits getting all twisted, that does not change the riders racing that you are watching

vifferman

12th October 2015, 15:52

Chill. It's easier to change how you react than change other people...
I yam mostly chilled while watching (have to make sure I don't piss off the vifferbabe, otherwise I won't get a subscription for 2016).
And I ignore most of the bollix, enjoying my first year with a season pass, and living in hope that Nick Harris is as old as he sounds and will be forced to retire soon.
However - it's not just me - just typing in his name reveals that many other imaginary MotoGP fans out there on the Interwebs are pissed off for the same reasons as me: the grating voice, the use of the same phrases over and over and OVER again; the limited vocabulary; the fact he sounds like he's commentating for a horse race on the radio.

george formby

12th October 2015, 16:29

Chill. It's easier to change how you react than change other people...

That be the truth.

Must admit, of late, I've switched off from the commentary. To much racing going on and my GF makes better observations than the commentators. Her latest thing is to guess the length of the circuit from FP lap times..... I am blessed.
I do like Dillon/Dylan/Dillan in pit lane. Why's the Pink Panther music just popped into my head?

pritch

12th October 2015, 17:09

The commentators had my sympathy yesterday but I still have the impression that they are lazy, they could do better with relatively little effort. If I recall correctly Harris' wingman has extensive print experience in the world of motorcycle racing but this is his first year with a microphone.

Just had a look at the extended forecast for PI:
Thurs - sunshine
Friday - possibility of showers
Sat & Sun - partly cloudy.

Then again the weather there is famously fickle so fingers crossed.

puddytat

12th October 2015, 17:10

If you look at those photos of the front tyres of Pedro & Rossi, there is not that much difference in wear.....contrast them with Lorenzos' who by the way, did have winglets & the other 2 didn't....smells like a conspiracy:yes:

ellipsis

12th October 2015, 19:53

... Go Vale...

...

Drew

12th October 2015, 20:09

husaberg

12th October 2015, 20:17

Great fucken race. Well done Pedrosa!

So, Pedro has the 2015 chassis working. Marquez will get on that now set up package next year...and fuck the fuck off like his first and second seasons I reckon.

I think it might be the 2014 Chassis that Pedro is using.
or maybe not and it is a entirely different one than Marqueze likes reglardless judging by this.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/220085/1/marquez-tempted-by-2014-chassis-switch.html
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2015/Jun/150625rydernotes.htm
http://www.sportrider.com/motogp-assen-thursday-pedrosa-quickest

Autech

12th October 2015, 22:02

He is on the 2015 chassis but it will be different to the one MM binned. That and he has adapted his riding style to it better.

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Doppleganger

13th October 2015, 06:25

Or it was the 15 chassis softened for wet conditions ;)

Shaun Harris

13th October 2015, 07:04

Shaun Harris

13th October 2015, 08:09

To fukin funny, and well worth re watching for a laugh

In parc ferme Dani grabbed a tissue and blew his nose... then gave it to one of his crew. I don't think the crew guy saw what Dani had done with it. Then he proceeds to wipe his face and mouth with the tissue... GROSS. I laughed tho.

Autech

13th October 2015, 08:10

Man I wish JL would shut up, he is really making himself look like a tosser with all his if and but's comments this year. The guy is wicked on a bike, and I think he would actualy be a cool guy as a person, but a very bad talker. Kind of like me really haha, Speaks before he thinks of the after math of it.
If, it was wet I would have won
If, it was dry, I would have won
If, I had fitted my breath guard I would have won

if if if if

But But But, you did NOT! Shut up and do it dude

If I ate Weetbix rather than cocco pops for breakfast...
Thats the level these guys are at.

But yeah, Pedrosa takes the cake. If Simo hadnt taken him out. If Marquez hadn't cut that sensor... If if if. Its racing! Ruled by the fickle mistress luck and fate.

Motomatters chap reckons Dani is lookin dangerous atm.

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onearmedbandit

13th October 2015, 08:18

If I ate Weetbix rather than cocco pops for breakfast...
Thats the level these guys are at.

Only one rider constantly making these claims...

Shaun Harris

13th October 2015, 14:36

Motegi MotoGP races. Some serious safety changes to need to be done to this track as proven last week with near extreme crash examples.

Pol ESP hits his head against an armco barrier ffs, On a MOTO GP track Dam. Also Going under the bridge there, it would not be to hard to face plant a solid bit of concrete wall there either. Hope some serious lessons were learnt by those in charge of safety for the top level ( HAHA) MotoGO track. Road courses are just that, and never will be very safe, before any one decides to bad mouth me, due to past safety concerns of closed tracks here. I always think for my own and others safety in the game.

Autech

13th October 2015, 14:57

Erelyes

14th October 2015, 09:07

Misano - VR confidently (home country, and VR beat JL here last year)
Aragon - JL confidently (home country, and JL won last year, VR DNF)
Motegi - JL slim margin (won last year, VR +2.6)
Fiwip Island - VR confidently (won over JL by over 10 secs last year)
Truly Asia - VR slim margin (2nd last year, just ahead of JL in third)

So why is JL $1.70 at the TAB and VR is $2.05 for the championship at the mo?

My crystal ball was working well up to Motegi...

VR is now $1.35 to win, JL is $3.00.

Autech

14th October 2015, 10:10

My crystal ball was working well up to Motegi...

VR is now $1.35 to win, JL is $3.00.

I still think it's going to come down to Pedrosa and Marquez as to who wins this championship. Rossi could in theory finish just behind Lorenzo for all remaining races and still win, but one or both of the Honda's are going to be finishing between the two of them at some stage in the next few races again, be it Rossi in 1st or Lorenzo. That is why Rossi won't be bothering to look into the mathematics, rather going out and racing as hard as he can.
I don't think the Honda this year has the pace to bet on a win for either of the riders in the next few races, though I do think Marquez has one more win left in him this season.

So if I were to be placing bets on who might win the championship (I wont be), I would be looking to the Honda boys results instead rather than the Yamaha boys.

In the meantime, GO ROSSI!!!

Update on De Angeles is that he is still in critical condition due to the head injury and multiple spinal fractures.

Shaun Harris

14th October 2015, 10:38

Update on De Angeles is that he is still in critical condition due to the head injury and multiple spinal fractures.

Critical yes, but awake and talking, so he will be fine. The critical part of this now is, if he will be able to return to his loved career or not once fully healed

Autech

14th October 2015, 11:04

Critical yes, but awake and talking, so he will be fine. The critical part of this now is, if he will be able to return to his loved career or not once fully healed

That's the one. He did well to score a few points on that ART bike vs all the open class bikes, so lets hope he can return and show em what's up :headbang:2thumbsup.

pritch

14th October 2015, 11:28

From the horse's mouth - so to speak:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/motogp/2015/october/race-director-explains-decision-to-race-without-helicopter/

pritch

15th October 2015, 19:38

This is where Nick Harris and Matt Birt will do the commentary this weekend. From there almost the entire track is behind them. Nice view of Bass Strait though. :whistle:

husaberg

15th October 2015, 20:09

Another record for Rossi this weekend
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/14/rossi-to-equal-capirossi-s-record-at-phillip-island/186978

Thought Nieto would be higher up the list.

Rossi"s first 500cc win way way back in 2000
Plus a great ride from McWilliams
https://youtu.be/IWiM2EAux0o

GD66

15th October 2015, 20:23

This is where Nick Harris and Matt Burt will do the commentary this weekend. From there almost the entire track is behind them. Nice view of Bass Strait though. :whistle:

Bloody hell, that's ordinary. It looks like the level below race control, and therefore two levels below the box used for circuit commentary, and as you've indicated Pritch, faces due south. Their box at Jerez is about ten feet wide and has a narrow view overlooking the grid, honestly they would be better off staying home and calling off a bloody great monitor....oh wait, they can use their on-site time to learn about the points spread and possibilities, tidy up any loose ends with pronunciation of riders' surnames and get any scuttlebutt lined up to torpedo dodgy practices and policies by Dorna...oh, hang on...:nono:

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 05:57

jasonu

16th October 2015, 06:27

This is where Nick Harris and Matt Burt will do the commentary this weekend. From there almost the entire track is behind them. Nice view of Bass Strait though. :whistle:

My comp. monitor is bigger than those.

pritch

16th October 2015, 07:23

My comp. monitor is bigger than those.

We like to post rants about the commentators and these rants are not undeserved. Harris & Birt do miss things though and sometimes give cause to wonder if they are bloody blind.

So when they post pics of their "office" I usually post them here. We see things on our 42" screen or whatever that they miss because they usually have screens the size of laptop screens and their attention may be on the screen full of laptimes etc.

None of which excuses their pronounciations of Bastianini or BaGnaia etc. Although I do wonder if Harris has some diagnosable impediment because he stuffs up other words with similar vowels to Bastianini. F'rinstance Tavulia, which comes out Tavoola. If that were the case I'd feel a little guilty for criticising the afflicted.

The action gets underway in about three hours. This could be a great weekend or an awful one as tyres may make it something of a lottery. If it went the wrong way and then the All Blacks lost that'd be enough to drive me to drink. (It doesn't take much. :drinkup: )

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 07:45

We like to post rants about the commentators and these rants are not undeserved. Harris & Birt do miss things though and sometimes give cause to wonder if they are bloody blind.

So when they post pics of their "office" I usually post them here. We see things on our 42" screen or whatever that they miss because they usually have screens the size of laptop screens and their attention may be on the screen full of laptimes etc.

None of which excuses their pronounciations of Bastianini or BaGnaia etc. Although I do wonder if Harris has some diagnosable impediment because he stuffs up other words with similar vowels to Bastianini. F'rinstance Tavulia, which comes out Tavoola. If that were the case I'd feel a little guilty for criticising the afflicted.

The action gets underway in about three hours. This could be a great weekend or an awful one as tyres may make it something of a lottery. If it went the wrong way and then the All Blacks lost that'd be enough to drive me to drink. (It doesn't take much. :drinkup: )

Tires and choices of them will be the deciding factor I thing mate, the weather temp is gunna be up and down all weekend, so I am Calling VR, due to his history and calm ness

Autech

16th October 2015, 08:20

Anyone watching it live in CHCH on their Sky? New motel doesn't get pop Sport pop up channel :(

Though I don't think the Mrs will be too happy if a spend all day Saturday at Ruapuna racing motorcycles, then all day Sunday watching motorcycles race...

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 08:22

pritch

16th October 2015, 08:31

Though I don't think the Mrs will be too happy if a spend all day Saturday at Ruapuna racing motorcycles, then all day Sunday watching motorcycles race...

And then there's BSB and WSBK from Qatar this weekend too. It'll almost be like having a divorce - if it doesn't actually lead to one. :whistle:

Autech

16th October 2015, 08:39

tell her to get a new man then

Anyone who doesn't ride/race motorcycles, is not a man. She would need to find a new women I think.

And then there's BSB and WSBK from Qatar this weekend too. It'll almost be like having a divorce - if it doesn't actually lead to one. :whistle:

Well 25 October is our 1st wedding anniversary, I did suggest that to celebrate we could go watch the Greymouth street races... Don't fancy my chances...

eelracing

16th October 2015, 09:25

Anyone who doesn't ride/race motorcycles, is not a man. She would need to find a new women I think.

That's a bit harsh chap.I've been beaten by plenty of fast women...

Autech

16th October 2015, 09:28

Haha, me too. Scout Fletcher comes to mind.

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Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 09:42

That's a bit harsh chap.I've been beaten by plenty of fast women...

so have I, but I had to go to a whore shop for it

eelracing

16th October 2015, 09:46

so have I, but I had to go to a whore shop for it

With your mug i'm not surprised.

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 09:59

With your mug i'm not surprised.

haha me either

speights_bud

16th October 2015, 10:15

Well 25 October is our 1st wedding anniversary, I did suggest that to celebrate we could go watch the Greymouth street races... Don't fancy my chances...

I made the mistake of getting married on the 22nd a few years ago. Completely fucked the classic festival....

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 10:44

Scrivy beats ya all- he always has a brilliant reason to be at wanga

Erelyes

16th October 2015, 10:54

Tires and choices of them will be the deciding factor I thing mate, the weather temp is gunna be up and down all weekend, so I am Calling VR, due to his history and calm ness

Damn right. VR has won at PI 6 times. That's as many as Stoner. You'reghey has won there once.

JL's comments about his luck reminds me of the saying 'The harder you work, the luckier you are'. Not saying he's not working hard - but to blame it on something outside his control is a bit unfair to VR.

Also reminds me of Rhonda Rousey's book, where she said if you lose a split decision that's your fault, not the judges. In other words, blaming it on things outside your control, is an admission that you let it come down to things outside your control.

Autech

16th October 2015, 12:46

I made the mistake of getting married on the 22nd a few years ago. Completely fucked the classic festival....

Yeah and that Jesus bugger decided to be born the day before the Wanga street race, totally fucked my chances of going there...

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pritch

16th October 2015, 12:59

JL's comments about his luck reminds me of the saying 'The harder you work, the luckier you are'. .

That's attributed to Gary Player. A commentator congratulated him on the lucky shot he had during a round.
He replied, "Yeah, the more I practice the luckier I get."
He may have been just a tad miffed at having his skills attributed to luck.

Meanwhile back at PI.
Miller is fast. The Motopod crew suggested that he might be.

A few weeks ago there was speculation that Miller had received a rocket up the arse from Honda. Apparently he was not considered to be taking things seriously enough. That may have been true because now Albert Puig has reportedly been appointed as his minder.

Some people consider Puig to have a malevolent influence on younger riders based on his history with Pedrosa. Puig has mentored other riders though, including Casey Stoner. Oh! Hang on... :whistle:

Erelyes

16th October 2015, 13:15

That's attributed to Gary Player.

Thanks, wasn't aware of where it'd come from.
You must spread..... etc

Meanwhile back at PI.
It seems Miller's challenge is, he's quick enough, but the only way he knows how to stop crashing is to dial things back from 11 to 9. He needs to learn to walk the line. He was top open at Argentina. But has been a non-finisher 7 times this season. (I feel like I'm stating the obvious here somehow)

Autech

16th October 2015, 13:22

Thanks, wasn't aware of where it'd come from.
You must spread..... etc

It seems Miller's challenge is, he's quick enough, but the only way he knows how to stop crashing is to dial things back from 11 to 9. He needs to learn to walk the line. He was top open at Argentina. But has been a non-finisher 7 times this season. (I feel like I'm stating the obvious here somehow)

Faster than Crutchless and just behind Dani boy, not bad! Especially on what is considered a rather crap bike this year. Just confirmed with Marc VDS so they should be able to get him a better bike I am hoping, full factory satellite bike and he will leave the others in his wake. Wait n see!

Ant West's time aint half bad! If it rains...

Meanwhile JL if fucking rapid from the beginning.

sil3nt

16th October 2015, 13:24

Ducati much faster than anyone else on the straights but quite a way off the pace up front.

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 14:18

Damn right. VR has won at PI 6 times. That's as many as Stoner. You'reghey has won there once.

JL's comments about his luck reminds me of the saying 'The harder you work, the luckier you are'. Not saying he's not working hard - but to blame it on something outside his control is a bit unfair to VR.

Also reminds me of Rhonda Rousey's book, where she said if you lose a split decision that's your fault, not the judges. In other words, blaming it on things outside your control, is an admission that you let it come down to things outside your control.

SToner is 1 up on big bike wins at PI mate

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 14:19

JL's comments about his luck reminds me of the saying 'The harder you work, the luckier you are'. Not saying he's not working hard - but to blame it on something outside his control is a bit unfair to VR.

All Rossi has to do is follow Lorenzo around and take no risks to win the Championship. Telling him he's a slow, tinarse might upset him enough to make him try to prove that he isn't... which is when he'll fall off... mindgames, mindgames. Lorenzo's just fucking with him.

speights_bud

16th October 2015, 14:24

Yeah and that Jesus bugger decided to be born the day before the Wanga street race, totally fucked my chances of going there...

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Bugger, apparently Guy Martin was a good enough excuse to leave early on our daughters first Christmas....

onearmedbandit

16th October 2015, 14:25

All Rossi has to do is follow Lorenzo around and take no risks to win the Championship. Telling him he's a slow, tinarse might upset him enough to make him try to prove that he isn't... which is when he'll fall off... mindgames, mindgames. Lorenzo's just fucking with him.

Yeah I doubt Rossi will get sucked into that.

McWild

16th October 2015, 14:26

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 15:21

Man, people expect way too much from Miller. Honda always does this, puts so much pressure and expectation on their young riders. Marquez set their expectations, and very very few people out there are Marc Marquez.

It happened to Bradl, it's happened to Scott Redding, it's happening to Miller and it's going to happen to Tito Rabat and probably Alex Marquez too. Quartararo made a damn good move jumping ship to Leopard KTM in Moto3 2016, in my opinion.

Tech 3 had huge patience with Smith, and look how far he's come. Ducati/Pramac had huge patience with Iannone and look how far he's come. Just because MM came out the box to win a rookie world championship, you gotta remember that some of the best riders, namely Rossi, Pedrosa, to an extent Dovisioso and if you want to include him in the camp, Marco Simoncelli, needed time to grow up and grow into MotoGP.

Miller crashes lots, of course he does, he wasn't exactly a Danny Kent type temperament in Moto3 and you put him straight on a bike that's been universally shown to be a piece of crap. And now you're giving him the hurry up? Pull your head out HRC.

I think you an others are are surmising to much buddy, There is no proof re pressure to Miller. HRC signed him for 3 years knowing and happily giving him shit loads of time to grow, they know what they are doing. The only reason he was so fast in FP1 today was the conditions, if HRC had put him under pressure, he would have been taking it more easy than that in those conditions I think. What he is not taking seriously enough, is presentation of himself etc, he is destined to be a marketing tool for HRC, so needs a bit of grooming to act more in Media professional etc, ala Puig

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 16:06

Yeah I doubt Rossi will get sucked into that.

:-) Maybe not... but Rossi's got an ego the size of a fairly major planet and doesn't like being dissed. Remember the stunned surprise when Stoner told him his ambition exceeded his talent?

Drew

16th October 2015, 16:12

:-) Maybe not... but Rossi's got an ego the size of a fairly major planet and doesn't like being dissed. Remember the stunned surprise when Stoner told him his ambition exceeded his talent?

He didn't understand Stoner. I watched that shit live, there was no comprehension, and no 'stunned surprise'.

onearmedbandit

16th October 2015, 16:13

He didn't understand Stoner. I watched that shit live, there was no comprehension, and no 'stunned surprise'.

Yup this. Rossi may have the ego (although he hides it well) but from all appearances he hardly lets any rider get to him.

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 16:14

Danny Kent using his brains and not bothering to be out there ( I am surmising from crash.net times ) to go fast in crap conditions, he has 3 rounds to claim his title as yet

Hahaha Re the above post and VR and his ego

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 16:15

He didn't understand Stoner. I watched that shit live, there was no comprehension, and no 'stunned surprise'.

Agreed on that Drew

onearmedbandit

16th October 2015, 16:23

Hahaha Re the above post and VR and his ego

'Hahaha' how? He doesn't come across like an egotistical arsehole like some riders do.

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 16:25

'Hahaha' how? He doesn't come across like an egotistical arsehole like some riders do.

My hahahahaaha was to the comment from Carbonhed

onearmedbandit

16th October 2015, 16:27

My hahahahaaha was to the comment from Carbonhed

Ahh gotcha, appeared to be at my post. Use the quote function!!!!

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 16:30

Ahh gotcha, appeared to be at my post. Use the quote function!!!!

try reading my post fully!!! and it would have been clear as mud dude

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 16:39

He didn't understand Stoner. I watched that shit live, there was no comprehension, and no 'stunned surprise'.

So his English failed him? It's not that complicated. Ambition exceeds talent.

It's on the end of this clip. Didn't even have the courtesy to take his helmet off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm9933w0b9g

Drew

16th October 2015, 16:45

So his English failed him? It's not that complicated. Ambition exceeds talent.

It's on the end of this clip. Didn't even have the courtesy to take his helmet off.

That clip doesn't work, but I don't need it.

Courtesy ya say. Like running down there to say sorry was discourteous?

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 16:48

That clip doesn't work, but I don't need it.

Courtesy ya say. Like running down there to say sorry was discourteous?

Internet word wars are great eh

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 16:53

That clip doesn't work, but I don't need it.

Courtesy ya say. Like running down there to say sorry was discourteous?

Sorry must work for me because I've got a subscription.

Apologising for the cock up was an absolute minmum I'd have thought. Not hiding inside your helmet would've been better.

All you can see is the back of his helmet and his hands waving around aimlessly when Stoner reams him.

jasonu

16th October 2015, 16:57

:-) Maybe not... but Rossi's got an ego the size of a fairly major planet ?

In his position it would he hard not to get a big ego and in his defense he has plenty to back it up.

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 16:59

In his position it would he hard not to get a big ego and in his defense he has plenty to back it up.

Absolutely. But if it's a weakness and you can needle him on it... why the fuck not? Has he ever held back?

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 17:00

Sorry must work for me because I've got a subscription.

Apologising for the cock up was an absolute minmum I'd have thought. Not hiding inside your helmet would've been better.

All you can see is the back of his helmet and his hands waving around aimlessly when Stoner reams him.

The fact that he still had his helmet on, show's that he went to see him to apologize instantly man, not after having a drink or any thing like that, he manned up instantly. If he was as you described him, he may have done it later on, or not at all.

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 17:20

The fact that he still had his helmet on, show's that he went to see him to apologize instantly man, not after having a drink or any thing like that, he manned up instantly. If he was as you described him, he may have done it later on, or not at all.

Yeah whatever.

FP2 just kicked off. Marquez, Lorenzo.... Rossi battling with Petrucci and Smith for 9th. Didn't have a new tyre though. No doubt part of some infinitely cunning secret plan.

onearmedbandit

16th October 2015, 17:25

You very funny.

Shaun Harris

16th October 2015, 17:28

You very funny.

I enjoyed the laugh also

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 17:29

You very funny.

It's the fucking internet... not real life... and it's Friday night and I'm working on getting loaded :woohoo:

Drew

16th October 2015, 17:42

Quite a few guys will run old rubber in a session, to get an idea of what to expect at the later stages of the race.

onearmedbandit

16th October 2015, 17:47

It's the fucking internet... not real life... and it's Friday night and I'm working on getting loaded :woohoo:

Don't be so serious, you're better when you are funny.

roogazza

16th October 2015, 17:49

Only FP1 but its a start.
https://motomatters.com/results/2015/10/16/2015_phillip_island_motogp_fp1_result_lo.html

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 17:58

Quite a few guys will run old rubber in a session, to get an idea of what to expect at the later stages of the race.

Yeah. I was just hoping he'd drop out of the top ten and the weather turn to shit tomorrow.

QP1 for you motherfucker.

Sooo dissapointed :cry:

speights_bud

16th October 2015, 18:53

... What he is not taking seriously enough, is presentation of himself etc, he is destined to be a marketing tool for HRC, so needs a bit of grooming to act more in Media professional etc, ala Puig

I thought he looked a lot like Karel Abraham in the press conference... Aka douche-ey

speights_bud

16th October 2015, 19:03

Danny Kent using his brains and not bothering to be out there ( I am surmising from crash.net times ) to go fast in crap conditions....
Clutch problems from FP1 that they couldn't fix in FP2 I think. Video on motogp.com

pritch

16th October 2015, 19:46

Didn't even have the courtesy to take his helmet off.

That wasn't courtesy, that was common sense.

carbonhed

16th October 2015, 20:52

That wasn't courtesy, that was common sense.

:laugh: Hadn't thought of it that way.

Shaun Harris

17th October 2015, 07:27

:laugh: Hadn't thought of it that way.

How's ya head today then dude

carbonhed

17th October 2015, 08:05

How's ya head today then dude

Meh. I ran out of steam.

What's the weather forecast like over there?

carbonhed

17th October 2015, 08:08

Actually... thanks to the wonders of the internet... it's pretty good.

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Australia/Phillip-Island-Circuit.aspx

Breezy and cool.

Shaun Harris

17th October 2015, 08:10

Actually... thanks to the wonders of the internet... it's pretty good.

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Australia/Phillip-Island-Circuit.aspx

Breezy and cool.

They really need to change the race date, that quality track is being wasted due to such low temps for the teams to race in

pritch

17th October 2015, 08:43

They really need to change the race date, that quality track is being wasted due to such low temps for the teams to race in

That would be difficult partly because of the WSBK race in February(?), but more importantly because The Oz GP has to be tied in with the Japanese and Malaysian rounds. To make all those later would mean extending the season almost into the northern winter and they wouldn't want to do that.

Now that Dorna have the rights to both WSBK and MotoGP they could probably do a swap. Unfortunately that wouldn't move the Malaysian race away from their wet season which extends from October to March.

For some reason unknown to me there is a loooong gap between the Aust SBK round and the next race. If they could do the swap then move the three fly aways back to late March early April they'd have a slightly better chance of a dry Malaysian GP but the weather at PI would be deteriorating.

Not easy is it?

Shaun Harris

17th October 2015, 08:54

That would be difficult partly because of the WSBK race in February(?), but more importantly because The Oz GP has to be tied in with the Japanese and Malaysian rounds. To make all those later would mean extending the season almost into the northern winter and they wouldn't want to do that.

Now that Dorna have the rights to both WSBK and MotoGP they could probably do a swap. Unfortunately that wouldn't move the Malaysian race away from their wet season which extends from October to March.

For some reason unknown to me there is a loooong gap between the Aust SBK round and the next race. If they could do the swap then move the three fly aways back to late March early April they'd have a slightly better chance of a dry Malaysian GP but the weather at PI would be deteriorating.

Not easy is it?

It is actually easy, just expensive mate

carbonhed

17th October 2015, 12:48

Some great rides by Crutchlow, Vinales and Redding in FP3. Particularly Vinales and Redding.

ETA. Lorenzo and Rossi both seem to be being cagey and keeping their powder dry. Looked like Lorenzo was going out for his last run, saw Rossi was going out too and he delayed. Don't think he'll be giving him any tows in QP2 this time.

The End

17th October 2015, 14:32

So where do you lot watch this online (not including the online motogp pass $$$$)

I'm watching a stream with the Moto3 qualifying about to start, but it's pretty grainy/low def.

The End

17th October 2015, 16:48

Managed to find a better one:

http://www.tensports.com/event/moto-gp/match/moto-gp-2015-round-16-pramac-australian-motorcycle-grand-prix-live-streaming

Looks as though they have race coverage tomorrow too

Drew

17th October 2015, 16:56

Lorenzo is looking like a whinging bitch this year.

Pick you lip up fella, Rossi is two fucken rows behind and it doesn't look like you have a chance of keeping pace with Marquez anyway.

The End

17th October 2015, 17:00

So why did Iannone get put in 2nd and Lorenzo in 3rd despite the exact same time (shown on screen)?

Alphabetical order?

Iannone 1.28.xxx(xxxxx...) faster?

Drew

17th October 2015, 17:05

Wondered the same thing.

nudemetalz

17th October 2015, 17:13

So why did Iannone get put in 2nd and Lorenzo in 3rd despite the exact same time (shown on screen)?

Alphabetical order?

Iannone 1.28.xxx(xxxxx...) faster?

or "D"ucati ... "Y"amaha.... ;)

onearmedbandit

17th October 2015, 17:23

So why did Iannone get put in 2nd and Lorenzo in 3rd despite the exact same time (shown on screen)?

Alphabetical order?

Iannone 1.28.xxx(xxxxx...) faster?

Just to fuck with his head.

nudemetalz

17th October 2015, 17:27

Well I think it worked as he was rather peeved with the tow....

husaberg

17th October 2015, 17:57

Well I think it worked as he was rather peeved with the tow....

Marc Marquez takes pole at Phillip Island, Jorge Lorenzo unhappy at towing Andrea Iannone ahead of him to second (on exact same lap time),
How exactly does he tow a guy that was 14KM/H faster than him in top speed it must have been a hell of a slipstream.

carbonhed

17th October 2015, 18:11

Damn I love Q2. The best riders in the world at the limit. Particularly spectacular at Phillip Island which looks fearsomely scary just sitting in front of a computer screen.

MM in a class of one. If his race pace is as good as his qualifying looks like it's his to lose.

Lorenzo will be happy on the front row.

Iannone's on a factory Ducati with the extra soft rear tyre... cunt should set his own time.

Rossi? Pffft... 6.5 tenths off Marquez 3.5 tenths off Lorenzo. Seventh. A thousandth of a second off eighth. Pretty fair reflection of where he's at. Out qualified by Lorenzo at 15 of the 16 rounds.

speights_bud

17th October 2015, 18:14

So why did Iannone get put in 2nd and Lorenzo in 3rd despite the exact same time (shown on screen)?

Alphabetical order?

Iannone 1.28.xxx(xxxxx...) faster?

Google is not helping...

If its not based on them having more decimal places available then it may be based on their second fastest lap?

316643

husaberg

17th October 2015, 18:21

Rossi? Pffft... 6.5 tenths off Marquez 3.5 tenths off Lorenzo. Seventh. A thousandth of a second off eighth. Pretty fair reflection of where he's at. Out qualified by Lorenzo at 15 of the 16 rounds.

I love that,PFFFFT fair reflection of where hes at, but only at qualifying, yet he's still ahead where it counts, on points from results in races.:bleh:

carbonhed

17th October 2015, 18:26

I love that,PFFFFT fair reflection of where hes at, but only at qualifying, yet he's still ahead where it counts, on points from results in races.:bleh:

:laugh: I stole it off Roogazza who applied it Smith, Redding and Baz when they achieved the highlights of their MotoGP careers to date at Misano by dicking his beloved Flossi.

And yeah... it kills me that this plodder is still leading. It's the hare and the tortoise all over again in real life :eek:

husaberg

17th October 2015, 18:32

:laugh: I stole it off Roogazza who applied it Smith, Redding and Baz when they achieved the highlights of their MotoGP careers to date at Misano by dicking his beloved Flossi.

And yeah... it kills me that this plodder is still leading. It's the hare and the tortoise all over again in real life :eek:

All I can say is as you said if beating Rossi is their career highlight, they all look up to him then.:lol:
I never thought Rossi had it in him this late in his career and I am a fan, I obviously hope he wins though. Yet win loose or crash he is likely the most GP successful rider we will ever see.
I can't see another rider ever matching his 9 (and maybe soon 10) World championships. 3 seconds and 2 thirds.

Drew

17th October 2015, 18:35

Are you on fucken drugs? Rossi has started that far back already this season. The only time he's finished off the podium all year, he fucked up in the race after qualifying well.

J.A.W.

17th October 2015, 18:37

All I can say is as you said if beating Rossi is their career highlight, they all look up to him then.:lol:
I never thought Rossi had it in him this late in his career and I am a fan, I obviously hope he wins though. Yet win loose or crash he is likely the most GP successful rider we will ever see.
I can't see another rider ever matching his 9 (and maybe soon 10) World championships. 3 seconds and 2 thirds

Longevity is a wonderful thing..

But.. the elephant in the room for Rossi as GOAT is, of course - Ducati.. ( & wasn't Stoner out scoring him when they were head-to-head on factory bikes?)

Drew

17th October 2015, 18:47

Longevity is a wonderful thing..

But.. the elephant in the room for Rossi as GOAT is, of course - Ducati.. ( & wasn't Stoner out scoring him when they were head-to-head on factory bikes?)

At best, that qualified as a "what if". Since Stoner didn't stick around to prove the point.

J.A.W.

17th October 2015, 18:54

At best, that qualified as a "what if". Since Stoner didn't stick around to prove the point.

That Ducati 'sticking point' was a pretty emphatic one.. but full credit to Rossi for his come-back this year, even with all the Honda-boy issues..

& we'll see if they allow/facilitate George in clipping back Flossie's points lead - tomorrow..

( Well done Jacko, too..).

Drew

17th October 2015, 19:08

That Ducati 'sticking point' was a pretty emphatic one.. but full credit to Rossi for his come-back this year, even with all the Honda-boy issues..

& we'll see if they allow/facilitate George in clipping back Flossie's points lead - tomorrow..

( Well done Jacko, too..).

Ah, but no one has made the Ducati do anything spectacular since Stoner. And when he did, it was on tyres specifically made for it. Rather than spec.

But I will concede, Rossi sucked on the thing.

nodrog

17th October 2015, 19:47

Qualifying is for fags, "look at me, I can be fastest in the non race"

speights_bud

17th October 2015, 19:49

Qualifying is for fags, "look at me, I can be fastest in the non race"
I read somewhere recently that in a motocross championship somewhere they will now be awarding points for qualifying.... Now that is an interesting concept....

speights_bud

17th October 2015, 19:53

I found it.

http://racerxonline.com/2015/10/08/points-awarded-for-qualifying-among-rule-changes-for-mxgp-in-2016

The MXGP and MX2 Qualifying Races will not only decide on the starting positions for the Races but also award points (Position 1: 5 points; pos. 2: 4 pts; pos. 3: 3 pts; pos. 4: 2 pts; pos. 5: 1 pt). The overall winner of the event will be the rider who gained the highest number of points after the points from the Qualifying Race, Race 1 and Race 2 have been added, irrespective of the number of Races he finished.

I read somewhere recently that in a motocross championship somewhere they will now be awarding points for qualifying.... Now that is an interesting concept....

GD66

17th October 2015, 19:58

So why did Iannone get put in 2nd and Lorenzo in 3rd despite the exact same time (shown on screen)

It is written in supp regs that in the event of two riders setting an equal time the one that sets it first gets the lollies. I imagine it's a tribute to him setting the lap with less setup and practice time on-track.

husaberg

17th October 2015, 20:03

Interesting little read about the Guy who Brought Rossi's Ducati.
https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2015/01/26/man-bought-rossi-motogp-ducati-gp11-essay/

speights_bud

17th October 2015, 20:05

It is written in supp regs that in the event of two riders setting an equal time the one that sets it first gets the lollies. I imagine it's a tribute to him setting the lap with less setup and practice time on-track.
Link? I couldn't find anything. Stuck on the not so smart phone at the moment.

Edit*

Found a Pdf. Downloaded and it suggests what I suspected earlier. In the event of a tie, riders second fastest times will be used to determine grid position.

Rule 1.16.4

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/17/b3f077e6da5e7ec3025798cc8ae0662c.jpg

The End

17th October 2015, 21:13

I thought Lorenzo finished his lap before Iannone?

or am I dreaming?

edit:

Downloaded and it suggests what I suspected earlier. In the event of a tie, riders second fastest times will be used to determine grid position.

Rule 1.16.4

Looks as though that clarifies it then.

speights_bud

17th October 2015, 21:14

He did. But I don't think that's how it works...

ellipsis

17th October 2015, 21:22

...as long as VR rides just like the GOAT that he is and JL rides as he does, fuck all use in a scrap, then all the shit will be over...if not we have a nailbiter...fuck that...GO Vale

denill

17th October 2015, 21:46

At PI and I certainly am not sure why Inaone got the nod. Presumed his next fastest lap was thrilled better?

speights_bud

17th October 2015, 22:40

At PI and I certainly am not sure why Inaone got the nod. Presumed his next fastest lap was thrilled better?
As above...
Rule 1.16.4

GD66

18th October 2015, 00:22

Link? I couldn't find anything. Stuck on the not so smart phone at the moment.

Edit*

Found a Pdf. Downloaded and it suggests what I suspected earlier. In the event of a tie, riders second fastest times will be used to determine grid position.

Rule 1.16.4

Apologies, I turned up the supp regs before, but they were the regs for the support classes, in which reg 15.0 indicates the procedure I outlined before.

1:16.4 is the GP reg. :brick:

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 08:04

Weather looks good. Not predicting any rain, cool though but the temperature dropoff not supposed to be as dramatic as last year.

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Australia/Phillip-Island-Circuit.aspx

Erelyes

18th October 2015, 08:55

Are you on fucken drugs? Rossi has started that far back already this season. The only time he's finished off the podium all year, he fucked up in the race after qualifying well.

You're completely right. Somehow I feel like PI is going to be the exception... Rossi just looks lacklustre somehow.

But I will concede, Rossi sucked on the thing.

I hate to say it (I want him to bend Lorenzo over and spank him), but I feel like Rossi is going to miss out on a podium this weekend. By a fair margin.

Qualifying is for fags, "look at me, I can be fastest in the non race"

Yeah, but you may as well ride around hell-for-leather so you have some idea of what the bike's like.

My predictions.
MM
JL
Mini-JL (Iannone)
Pedro
VR. (I want him to do better. But I feel like even putting him here is hopeful this weekend. I hope he proves me well wrong).

Interestingly VR is $1.12 for a podium at the TAB!

roogazza

18th October 2015, 09:18

Go Valeee ! Race pace looks good.

More points on Horhay would be nice. MM can win it if he likes (and maybe he will ?). :shifty:

Autech

18th October 2015, 11:07

Go Valeee ! Race pace looks good.

More points on Horhay would be nice. MM can win it if he likes (and maybe he will ?). :shifty:

If he stays on the bike you mean?

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eelracing

18th October 2015, 11:09

Go Valeee ! Race pace looks good.

More points on Horhay would be nice. MM can win it if he likes (and maybe he will ?). :shifty:

will Jorge take it to Marquez?So tempting to steal more points off of Vale.
Rossi good enough for a podium still...and Lozenge knows it.

Cracking prospect of a race in store today.

denill

18th October 2015, 11:23

Calm and sunny ATM......

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 11:34

Rossi good enough for a podium still...and Lozenge knows it.

Meh... Flossi will be fully occupied beating Vinales.

Iannone for third behind MM and Lorenzo.

Autech

18th October 2015, 14:29

Moto3 never fails to deliver!

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mulletman

18th October 2015, 14:46

It was a very good win for Olivera.

Drew

18th October 2015, 15:02

That was Kent's own fault. He took the nose off the other bike and forced him to brake.

Autech

18th October 2015, 15:48

That was Kent's own fault. He took the nose off the other bike and forced him to brake.

Yup it was an aggressive line, drama drama drama!

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husaberg

18th October 2015, 16:40

Lorenzo crashes handing the championship to Rossi

316657
I will edit it later if it doesn't actually happen:whistle:

J.A.W.

18th October 2015, 16:43

Mick Doohan was interviewed in the lead up to the race, & when asked about GOAT status for Rossi, declined to give his imprimatur..
& his grin when asked about the Honda boys playing spoiler between George & Flossi.. IMO.. said heaps.. we'll see.. in 'bout a 1/4 hour..

Autech

18th October 2015, 16:44

Lorenzo crashes handing the championship to Rossi

316657
I will edit it later if it doesn't actually happen:whistle:

Screenshot taken...

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husaberg

18th October 2015, 16:48

Screenshot taken...

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Bugger never considered that.:lol:
My own pick is Lorenzo is going to have not cooking his tyres so much in his head (esp as it works one sire far greater than the other at PI)
That he is going to go slow enough for everyone to put mondo pressure on him and force him into a race.

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 17:20

Fuck that ducati is quick. Mega exciting.

husaberg

18th October 2015, 17:27

Fuck that ducati is quick. Mega exciting.

Fuck yeah take that...............(the first marqsueze pass on Lorenzo)

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 17:31

who's going to win? :laugh:

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 17:32

Fuck me epic

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 17:43

Unbelievable. My heart rate is through the roof.

husaberg

18th October 2015, 17:44

11 points. Two races left.

jasonu

18th October 2015, 17:44

Best race of the season!!!

mr bucketracer

18th October 2015, 17:45

that was a race and a half

Drew

18th October 2015, 17:48

Fucken spectacular!

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 17:53

Those last lap times will be fascinating.

J.A.W.

18th October 2015, 17:57

Fucken spectacular!

Yeah, that lovely naturally flowing Aussie circuit makes the newly contrived tracks look like shit..

George should've done his video homework & watched a few tight last lap finishes there, & he could've got the full 25 points..

I see Rossi deleted the aero-strakes, maybe he should put a couple of sea-gull wings on it.. & Ian went real good, must've looked at KC's old data..

So full credit to M-M, to finally get top step on the hot-box, after his previous dramas there..

jasonu

18th October 2015, 18:01

Yeah, that lovely naturally flowing Aussie circuit makes the newly contrived tracks look like shit..

..

Except for the seagulls.

roogazza

18th October 2015, 18:08

Thank you #93 ! :sweatdrop

Great battle Aliens.

ps. Vinales did great on the Suzuki,way down on Hp to the two Factory Hondas #26 and #35

Autech

18th October 2015, 18:10

Holy fuck what a battle! MM knows how to turnt up!

Well done to Vinales too. Looking promising in the Suzuki.

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Pumba

18th October 2015, 18:14

Fucking glad I didn't miss that one! What a race!

Brett

18th October 2015, 18:16

Holy crap, what a BRILLIANT race.

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 18:18

Iannone for third behind MM and Lorenzo.

Well I called the result but it wasn't anything like the race I was expecting.

Rossi was a lot closer than I thought but the momentum is with Lorenzo now.

Crasherfromwayback

18th October 2015, 18:18

A race to be saved for viewing over and over. Pass of the season? Crazy Joe going under Rossi and MM at the bottom of MG.

ecko_nzed

18th October 2015, 18:20

Just when I was beginning to think that MotoGP was boring and Moto3 is where it's at, they go and have an EPIC race. Hotting up for final 2 races

Brett

18th October 2015, 18:20

A race to be saved for viewing over and over. Pass of the season? Crazy Joe going under Rossi and MM at the bottom of MG.

Fuck yes. That was both talented and ballsy. Iannone is shaping up to one hell of a force.

Drew

18th October 2015, 18:22

A race to be saved for viewing over and over. Pass of the season? Crazy Joe going under Rossi and MM at the bottom of MG.

Every bit as good as the 89 GP at the same track. One for the ages.

Brett

18th October 2015, 18:24

Heading to Valencia at the end of the month to catch the final round of the MotoGP. If things keep going like this and it ends up going down to the wire...it is going to be massively epic. So amped! The atmosphere is going to be electric.

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 18:25

A race to be saved for viewing over and over. Pass of the season? Crazy Joe going under Rossi and MM at the bottom of MG.

We've always wanted him up there and he didn't disappoint when he got a shot at it. Thank you Phillip island.

MM was a second quicker than Lorenzo on the last lap 1:29;280 to 1:30:307.

Lorenzo slowed by nearly half a second to ease it home :facepalm:

Crasherfromwayback

18th October 2015, 18:29

Brett

18th October 2015, 18:30

We've always wanted him up there and he didn't disappoint when he got a shot at it. Thank you Phillip island.

MM was a second quicker than Lorenzo on the last lap 1:29;280 to 1:30:307.

Lorenzo slowed by nearly half a second to ease it home :facepalm:

Slowed...or had cooked his tyres running a hot pace for nearly the full race?

Brett

18th October 2015, 18:50

What a perfect season to go there for mate! You'll wet yourself. I did.

Yeah...haven't been overly excited about it (too much work on the go at the moment)...but that race has really fired up the anticipation!

nudemetalz

18th October 2015, 19:33

Every bit as good as the 89 GP at the same track. One for the ages.

I remember that one...Mal Campbell running off the track and binning (via onboard footage) and Mr Gardiner waving back at Mr Doohan while cranked right over on the Rothmans NSRs.

carbonhed

18th October 2015, 19:49

Slowed...or had cooked his tyres running a hot pace for nearly the full race?

Pretty much every lap around 1:29:9 then the last one 1:30:3.

Who knows.

Shaun Harris

18th October 2015, 20:14

Autech

18th October 2015, 20:31

Sounds like this is gunna be a ripper of a race to watch tomorrow for me, looking forward to it. 3rd row to 4th place pretty dam I cool I say. The old boy is still alive, but wish those Ducati's would fuk off haha

Almost time they lost their 2 litres extra fuel I think

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husaberg

18th October 2015, 20:43

Almost time they lost their 2 litres extra fuel I think

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And open electronics, during season engine development mods, plus I think extra engines, plus for some reason think its 5 litres too.

J.A.W.

18th October 2015, 20:57

And open electronics, during season engine development mods, plus I think extra engines, plus for some reason think its 5 litres too.

Jeeze, steady on.. all this bleating, & just because a Ducati kept Flossi off the podium - for 'bout the 1st time.. since he stopped riding 'em.. L.O.L...

pritch

18th October 2015, 21:00

Ah, but no one has made the Ducati do anything spectacular since Stoner. \.

Until today :devil2:

Autech

18th October 2015, 21:35

And open electronics, during season engine development mods, plus I think extra engines, plus for some reason think its 5 litres too.

Yup all that power is nice but today showed the chassis is up to it on the corners. To be fair its not much quicker than the Honda, it just destroys the yams.

Crutchlow had a good un too it must be said. Lets hope he can perform such next season.

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husaberg

18th October 2015, 21:40

Yup all that power is nice but today showed the chassis is up to it on the corners. To be fair its not much quicker than the Honda, it just destroys the yams.

Crutchlow had a good un too it must be said. Lets hope he can perform such next season.

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I have been watching the trap speeds of late its missile, then again trap speeds don't win races.
But He stuffed it inside Rossi once (admittedly with a bump for room) but still inside the Yam.
A said it a while back the worst thing Ducati could do this year is win a race, they are better off foxing a bit. time will tell.

Shaun Harris

19th October 2015, 00:36

And open electronics, during season engine development mods, plus I think extra engines, plus for some reason think its 5 litres too.

Fukin A, should never have been allowed those advantages in the first place, they were and are a Factory team. Hey, crazy rode his ass off it seems, good on him, but bollocks to the brand name I say

Drew

19th October 2015, 05:25

Ducati being allowed to develop the bike is the only reason they are where they are. So it kinda proves that the rules work.

Shaun Harris

19th October 2015, 06:18

Ducati being allowed to develop the bike is the only reason they are where they are. So it kinda proves that the rules work.

I here ya but, they had the same advantages last year, and are a past world champion ship motogp winning team. So imo, a factory team should only be given one year of those privileges, then it shit or get off the potty