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TerminalAddict
24th November 2008, 12:44
The pace up front was fastish ... paddy probably egged on by baine, insomnia1, and myself ... I gave myself a stern talking to when I got home
insomnia1: no disrepect man, I just thought if we're gonna go fast then why muck about :)
TerminalAddict
24th November 2008, 12:47
on the subject of tyres:
I've just been down to ham honda, and on the phone to boyds.
Do I:
a. Buy a set of stradas for $500
or
b. Keep my current m1 front, and buy a z6 for the rear at $300
PaddyFZ1
24th November 2008, 13:00
The pace up front was fastish ... paddy probably egged on by baine, insomnia1, and myself ... I gave myself a stern talking to when I got home
insomnia1: no disrepect man, I just thought if we're gonna go fast then why muck about :)
I wasnt taking much notice of who was behind me.
And if you were going fast how come i was catching you on Kaipaki Rd:bleh:
insomnia01
24th November 2008, 13:08
have you tried any of the pilot range?
sorry no I have'nt
slofox
24th November 2008, 13:08
We could always go as 'the rides formerly known as laxeds out rides'
or maybe - 'the super laxed out rides' for those more laxed than it is now
I was thinking along the lines of "maxed out rides"........:devil2:
The only part of the ride that I have not done was the Otewa Road loop south from Otorohanga and back through Arohena to Arapuni Road- but that is on my agenda when I get the chance.....did you in fact do that bit?
I like Arapuni Road and the loop through Horahora and Maungatautari to Leamington.......very low traffic whenever I go through there.....
insomnia01
24th November 2008, 13:10
The pace up front was fastish ... paddy probably egged on by baine, insomnia1, and myself ... I gave myself a stern talking to when I got home
insomnia1: no disrepect man, I just thought if we're gonna go fast then why muck about :)
all good:sunny:
Did you do the GC this year??
Spazm
24th November 2008, 13:13
I was thinking along the lines of "maxed out rides"........:devil2:....
That's a BIG step changing an L to an M.. I'm not sure we've evolved THAT much...
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 13:23
That's a BIG step changing an L to an M.. I'm not sure we've evolved THAT much...
Nono, lets leave it as laxed out, thats the point!
Shouldn't need to tell people to ride at their pace, the fastest way to a body bag is riding beyond you ability.
If you want to ride slow, ride slow.
If you ride slow enough to be the end cap, you wont get lost, the front pack will stop when we change direction.
jmk
24th November 2008, 13:25
Yummy - just got back from lunch at Cock & Bull, mentioned there is a group of us looking at coming down on the 6th, they said if 15 ormore of us best to book with it becoming extra busy there on a Saturday but there is no worries if we have to cancel :beer:
Will leave it up to whoever what the want to do, but we are starters for the 6th
TerminalAddict
24th November 2008, 13:28
I wasnt taking much notice of who was behind me.
And if you were going fast how come i was catching you on Kaipaki Rd:bleh:
damn that extra 40 horses, and that bit of plastic that makes you slippery :D
Fairings are over rated :whistle:
all good:sunny:
Did you do the GC this year??
nah missed it this year .. was thinking of doing the southern cross in march, but life is getting in the way
ckai
24th November 2008, 13:37
I was thinking along the lines of "maxed out rides"........:devil2:
haha it pretty much was. Well I know at times the hyosung was. I had one corner where the throttle was open wide but didn't seem to be keeping up much. The hill, of course, had a bit to do with it haha. :) Which is good, it means I can get into less trouble and I'll be out growing it when I can get my grown up bike.
Mr. Rock
24th November 2008, 13:45
Yummy - just got back from lunch at Cock & Bull, mentioned there is a group of us looking at coming down on the 6th, they said if 15 ormore of us best to book with it becoming extra busy there on a Saturday but there is no worries if we have to cancel :beer:
Will leave it up to whoever what the want to do, but we are starters for the 6th
that seems a smart idea doesnt it :) soo 6th is when we are thinking of dinner?? (there was a discussion somewhere between page 40 and 60) lots of reading and couldnt find details haha
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 13:59
that seems a smart idea doesnt it :) soo 6th is when we are thinking of dinner?? (there was a discussion somewhere between page 40 and 60) lots of reading and couldnt find details haha
Yeah bro, 6th as it is. I think there's still a decision to make about the tavern and the cock and bull....
Dunno, i probably wont do dinner there anyways, gluten isn't good for me...
I think wysper was sorting out the dinner thing anyways....
Mr. Rock
24th November 2008, 14:14
ahh... well if it counts for anything my vote goes to cock and bull
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 14:19
ahh... well if it counts for anything my vote goes to cock and bull
Guess we just need confirmed numbers. only problem with the cock and bull is if its busy we wouldn't fit.
Then again if we could confirm upper numbers they might set aside a drinking room for us.
wysper
24th November 2008, 14:24
Yummy - just got back from lunch at Cock & Bull, mentioned there is a group of us looking at coming down on the 6th, they said if 15 ormore of us best to book with it becoming extra busy there on a Saturday but there is no worries if we have to cancel :beer:
Will leave it up to whoever what the want to do, but we are starters for the 6th
That sounds good. I was thinking of not doing an 'official dinner' thing, more just book in a group of us and those who want to eat can eat and those who dont don't need to worry. For instance, cos of family things I will not be eating and probably wont be able to stay that long as I will have to return to the clan.
haha it pretty much was. Well I know at times the hyosung was. I had one corner where the throttle was open wide but didn't seem to be keeping up much. The hill, of course, had a bit to do with it haha. :) Which is good, it means I can get into less trouble and I'll be out growing it when I can get my grown up bike.
I hear you, I was red lining through some of the twistys - never done that before, and found a few issues when the bike was at full throttle.. have to get it checked out.
that seems a smart idea doesnt it :) soo 6th is when we are thinking of dinner?? (there was a discussion somewhere between page 40 and 60) lots of reading and couldnt find details haha
No oganised dinner at this stage... just meeting place and take if from there unless I have missed the point completely.
Yeah bro, 6th as it is. I think there's still a decision to make about the tavern and the cock and bull....
Dunno, i probably wont do dinner there anyways, gluten isn't good for me...
I think wysper was sorting out the dinner thing anyways....
Our president has assigned me that task yes. So if the cock and bull fail Murray has sounded out the te rapa tavern so we have a good back up plan.
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 14:37
Our president has assigned me that task yes. So if the cock and bull fail Murray has sounded out the te rapa tavern so we have a good back up plan.
Getting a little sick of the president status guys.
Squid
24th November 2008, 14:45
haha!! premo.. im thinking of getting new tires so i can more confidently try and keep up.. been thinking diablo rossos or pilot powers. i know they are probily way over kill for my bike but hey.. any one riding on ether of these?
I was running the diablo's fore and aft on my little VT250, good in the dry but didnt really inspire such confidence in the wet...
On the Gixxxa (ok so it twice the weight and more that twice the power) I'm running Michelin 2CT on the front (dual compound, harder in the middle softer on the edges where I want the grip during a corner) and a softer pilot power on the rear. Its good fun :D
When First starting off in the mornings is a little interesting but down the road they warm up enough to give good feeling. Good in the wet too. And give plenty of grip with a pillion on board.
Squid
24th November 2008, 14:47
Getting a little sick of the president status guys.
You could opt to be the offical spokesman and organiser then. All the work and no credit :o
Mr. Rock
24th November 2008, 14:50
awesome.. looking like it will be the powers so far.
TerminalAddict
24th November 2008, 14:53
....... and a softer pilot power on the rear......
suicidal ???? are you nuts?
softer ON THE FRONT !!!!!
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 14:55
suicidal ???? are you nuts?
softer ON THE FRONT !!!!!
I don't have allot of experience but i gota agree with TA on this one...
wysper
24th November 2008, 15:20
Getting a little sick of the president status guys.
aawwww come on.. secretly you love it :dodge:
wysper
24th November 2008, 15:22
So would you say that we would be at least 20 for the 6th.
And a start time of 7pm?
sound ok?
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 15:25
aawwww come on.. secretly you love it :dodge:
Yeah. False stature drives my ambitions :pinch:
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 15:26
So would you say that we would be at least 20 for the 6th.
And a start time of 7pm?
sound ok?
I am in. for the 6th at 7.
jmk
24th November 2008, 15:28
7pm at the c and b sounds good for us - x2
WhatThe???
24th November 2008, 15:39
yup 7pm on the 6th :)
Koz, crazy Dave says hes found turbos for your bikes...:pinch:
WhatThe???
24th November 2008, 15:41
...Crazy Dave is currently on youtube "how to ride motorbike wheelies"
I feel like I should get him Life Insurance for xmas...
Squid
24th November 2008, 15:52
suicidal ???? are you nuts?
softer ON THE FRONT !!!!!
Should have worded that differently...
I asked about that when getting the tires and the difference tween the 2 was the rear isnt dual compound so will wear in the middle quicker. Other than that the rubber is the same density. According to Hamilton Motorcyle center who sold and fitted said tires.
Would have gone 2CT's (dual Comps) both ends but the budget didnt quite reach that far :weep:
6th @ 7pm sounds good :done:
Warr
24th November 2008, 15:57
C & B for the 6th @7pm. Me down for 2 also :)
Sidewinder
24th November 2008, 19:18
Im out for the next few months
Geeen
24th November 2008, 19:30
Mr Prez. Showed my almost 2yo son a picture of the gargoyle and all he could do was grin make engine sounds and drool. Must be coz its GREEN!:eek::eek:
Geeen
24th November 2008, 19:33
Also meant to say thanks for the great ride!:rockon:It fixed my stuffed ankle:gob: Count me in for the 6th by the way.
Tootle
24th November 2008, 20:32
Count Spazm and I in to...6th @ 7. :banana:
Krissy - We coming back from Aus on 29th so wont make ride sorry.
Brooke
24th November 2008, 21:00
I have seen allot of new riders on 250's and other riders who aren't so keen on racing or trying to keep up with the super sports looking for some organised rides around hamilton.
I am on a zx6rr but i am looking to enjoy a relaxed ride rather than race anything.
Was thinking of getting a group started for a ride or 2 a week when people are keen.
Without sounding like a stick in the mud :o I am posting koz's first comment for this thread. Being one of the 250 riders just starting out, this thread really appealed to me seeing as it was "laxed out". I hate the thought of holding people up and people getting sick of waiting. Just wanted to throw my two cents it for what it's worth.:confused:
All I can say is that the rides I have been on I have thoroughly enjoyed as there is such a great bunch of people (hey I even enjoy spending time with all of you when we aren't on bikes!!! :yes:) I really want to keep developing my riding while riding WITH a group of others. :scooter: :chase:
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 22:44
Mr Prez. Showed my almost 2yo son a picture of the gargoyle and all he could do was grin make engine sounds and drool. Must be coz its GREEN!:eek::eek:
Wicked thats the best response hehe. Thank you, you made my night :wari:
Koz, crazy Dave says hes found turbos for your bikes...:pinch:
:shit: dear lord my bike is already about 5 times what i can handle!!! and he told me on sunday he's never rolled the throttle on totally on his 10 anyways lol i will stick to the "more horsepower than in need"
mister.koz
24th November 2008, 22:53
Without sounding like a stick in the mud :o I am posting koz's first comment for this thread. Being one of the 250 riders just starting out, this thread really appealed to me seeing as it was "laxed out". I hate the thought of holding people up and people getting sick of waiting. Just wanted to throw my two cents it for what it's worth.:confused:
All I can say is that the rides I have been on I have thoroughly enjoyed as there is such a great bunch of people (hey I even enjoy spending time with all of you when we aren't on bikes!!! :yes:) I really want to keep developing my riding while riding WITH a group of others. :scooter: :chase:
To be honest the biggest component of the "high speed ride" on sunday was that we were missing murray at the back and me in the middle.
The guys at the front have always been quite quick. Normally i am fairly subdued but last sunday i thought i would push the bike a bit because i am getting more confident and i trusted the seal allot more than our run to port waikato.
It still laxed out rides, no one's being held up, and at the same time we have a really good range of people here to learn from at different speeds, just remember to ride inside of your ability.
Remember i am learning too, don't let the green gargoyle, the racing suit and the goofy smile fool you, i am still quite a novice :third: and i love it.
So what we need is a solid front (got that) middle (normally got that) and back (usually have that) so the learners (me included) are happy.
gravy?
ckai
25th November 2008, 06:11
To be honest the biggest component of the "high speed ride" on sunday was that we were missing murray at the back and me in the middle.
The guys at the front have always been quite quick. Normally i am fairly subdued but last sunday i thought i would push the bike a bit because i am getting more confident and i trusted the seal allot more than our run to port waikato.
It still laxed out rides, no one's being held up, and at the same time we have a really good range of people here to learn from at different speeds, just remember to ride inside of your ability.
Remember i am learning too, don't let the green gargoyle, the racing suit and the goofy smile fool you, i am still quite a novice :third: and i love it.
So what we need is a solid front (got that) middle (normally got that) and back (usually have that) so the learners (me included) are happy.
gravy?
Mate, you were up late last night! I do agree with you. We always split into our chosen speed groups and ride within them. It's never going to be one big 10+ bike group.
All that happened in the weekend was the middle and back groups picked up the pace.
I do see where Brooke is coming from though. In all fairness, she probably was a bit nervous when I came home and told her the pace was a little quicker than usual.
Like I've mentioned, as long as no one ends up riding alone and they get to ride at their own pace, then I think the Laxed Rides are what they're meant to be.
Group rides are just that, no one rides alone.
wysper
25th November 2008, 06:54
Group rides are just that, no one rides alone.
Thats the cool thing about group rides. I like riding in a group. It is good fun. Especially when we all get back together and trade stories on the ride so far.
I will ring cock and bull today and post the results.
7pm, Dec 6th for approx 20. Won't matter if there are a few more or a few less.
cheers Social Secretary wysper (temporary) Temporary cos I am an antisocial bastard at the best of times :shit::Punk:
Mr. Rock
25th November 2008, 07:21
put me down for 2 on the 6th tooooooo
Mr. Rock
25th November 2008, 07:24
well the other good thing about group rides is that when we all know where we are going to end up really you cant hold anyone up.. everyone gets there etc.
i always enjoy parking on the side of the road and seeing everyone catch up
TerminalAddict
25th November 2008, 07:24
if the learner .. or more appropriately .. developing riders are wanting advice / help / etc .. the best bet is to pluck up some courage, and go and ask a more experienced rider for assistance.
I've run a bunch of learner rides, and the group theory NEVER works on the road.
group teaching is fine on the track, but on the road is simply does not work.
one-on-one is the only way to go, if it is advice or education you're after.
if one of the developing riders asked me to guide or comment then I would hang back with the other rider, and not worry about where the group is riding.
If it is development you want, then the route taken is of very little consequence.
Previously, when I have run one-on-one days I have decided on a time and destination at the end of the day (like at the pub ;) ) then the pair (one learner, one teacher) split off, and do there own learning without the pressure of other bikes around them.
Then everyone can meet at the end of the day, and swap stories.
Sunday for me was just a blat around south waikato roads .. it was not organised as a learning environment at all, so I didn't treat it as such .. and of course this was the first time meeting most of you, so you probably pegged me as some kinda paedophile sporting a wierdo moustache :) .. fear not .. the moustache is coming off at the end of the month :P
I've taught a few people to ride, and at least one those riders is now a better rider than me, it just takes commitment from the person wanting to learn.
If you actually want some one to comment on skills / techniques / etc then ask around. Most experienced riders love talking about what they know, and what they can do.
Just remember to take advice with "a pinch of salt" .. just because I say something doesn't mean it is gospel .. I talk shyte too y'know
WhatThe???
25th November 2008, 07:49
Thanks to Brooke for starting that, just reading your comments has made me feel better about venturing out with the group. Which I hope to do soon Im just still a bit nervvy and havent been in the traffic yet :P and like she said I dont really like the idea of holding anyone up. But I like how the group has stops so really you're not being held up - like someone else said. :) Personally my issue is learning gears! lol, its not that bad though
ckai
25th November 2008, 07:56
if the learner .. or more appropriately .. developing riders are wanting advice / help / etc .. the best bet is to pluck up some courage, and go and ask a more experienced rider for assistance.
I've run a bunch of learner rides, and the group theory NEVER works on the road.
group teaching is fine on the track, but on the road is simply does not work.
one-on-one is the only way to go, if it is advice or education you're after.
if one of the developing riders asked me to guide or comment then I would hang back with the other rider, and not worry about where the group is riding.
If it is development you want, then the route taken is of very little consequence.
Previously, when I have run one-on-one days I have decided on a time and destination at the end of the day (like at the pub ;) ) then the pair (one learner, one teacher) split off, and do there own learning without the pressure of other bikes around them.
Then everyone can meet at the end of the day, and swap stories.
Sunday for me was just a blat around south waikato roads .. it was not organised as a learning environment at all, so I didn't treat it as such .. and of course this was the first time meeting most of you, so you probably pegged me as some kinda paedophile sporting a wierdo moustache :) .. fear not .. the moustache is coming off at the end of the month :P
I've taught a few people to ride, and at least one those riders is now a better rider than me, it just takes commitment from the person wanting to learn.
If you actually want some one to comment on skills / techniques / etc then ask around. Most experienced riders love talking about what they know, and what they can do.
Just remember to take advice with "a pinch of salt" .. just because I say something doesn't mean it is gospel .. I talk shyte too y'know
I like that, "developing" riders :) Makes you feel less of a muppet. Also a good point about splitting off, doing some technical work, then meeting back with the group. Quite a good idea.
I know we're carrying on about the Sunday ride a bit (i.e it's pace) but from my personal point of view, I knew what I was working on for the ride (it sounds like Koz was as well) so we just went the pace we wanted for it.
If any really new people are reading this and thinking the pace will be too much on one of these ride after the weekend, it won't be.
I think I was telling a few people on Sunday that I wouldn't mind getting a BIG open car park some where, some of you experienced boys for pointers, and us developing riders to work on few things. They do it up in Dorkland and it seems to be really beneficial. Things like counter steering, real emergency braking, decent corning practice, in controlled environment.
Someone has mentioned that you should only ride as fast as you can stop. I certainly haven't put that to the test. It would also be good riding around some cones leaning the bike over to see what it can do.
Yes there is courses you can do but I personally would learn a lot more from someone I know around people I know.
And I'm done :)
Mr. Rock
25th November 2008, 08:10
i would be down for some pointers..
WhatThe???
25th November 2008, 08:10
I think I was telling a few people on Sunday that I wouldn't mind getting a BIG open car park some where, some of you experienced boys for pointers, and us developing riders to work on few things. They do it up in Dorkland and it seems to be really beneficial. Things like counter steering, real emergency braking, decent corning practice, in controlled environment.
Murray has been telling me to use the Kingsgate car park for practice on the weekends, just a thought :)
yea I like the idea of the 'learner rides' they do up there might be a good idea for us?? But then theres nothing wrong with the sunday rides :)
bane
25th November 2008, 08:27
my first time joining in, and to be fair, I had no idea what the pace would be. In the end Paddy set one i was generally comfortable with.
However at times he knew the road and disappeared into the distance. But I just kept to the pace I felt comfortable, knowing he would be waiting when we hit the next intersection.
Key as always, ride within your comfort level. Finish the ride exhilarated, not "puckering up".
Tyres discussion - im on my second set of Strada's - more than happy. I dont quite get the mileage out of them that some people claim, but satisfied with ~8-9000km per set so far.
wysper
25th November 2008, 08:33
OK
Just rang cock and bull. Booked it under my name for twenty odd at 7pm on the 6th. My wife and I will be there from about 6.30 with our younguns (5 and 18mts), so any other family type want to come a bit earlier and bring their small ones, we will be there.
I was asked about tables and food and unfortunately I couldnt answer. LOL
So Paul (the Manager) just said he would look after us!
So when you come in, if you don't see us, just tell someone you are with Greg's party! (I better watch out.. I don't want Koz's presidency)
I look forward to seeing you all there!
ckai
25th November 2008, 08:50
Key as always, ride within your comfort level. Finish the ride exhilarated, not "puckering up".
Good point that. To learn I think you want to push yourself just that little bit every now and then but only by a small margin at a time. Never so you shit yourself :)
This will relate to a few posts...Brooke and I are out for a few weeks, baby sitting this weekend and racing next, so we're out for the charity ride this Sunday and also for the drinkies and ride on the 6th/7th.
It'll also mean, if anyone wants to have a developer session before then, they'll have to organise something otherwise I'll try and start something up. It may mean nothing until after Christmas but we'll see how it goes.
I'll try and start general discussion thread about it trying to see how numbers look for something. May even look at some car park riding then even a short group ride for practice. I dunno. I'll try and put something up in the next few weeks. If any experienced fella's wanna put there hands up for tips, let me know and also what sort of thing will suit you e.g. weekend for x time or weeknight for x time.
Might have to talk to Murray about the car park as well and see what he thinks.
jmk
25th November 2008, 08:53
Awesome, thanks Wysper (greg lol), I never know what we should be calling each other on here :confused: - Brooke and Murray are the easy ones
insomnia01
25th November 2008, 08:56
Without sounding like a stick in the mud :o I am posting koz's first comment for this thread. Being one of the 250 riders just starting out, this thread really appealed to me seeing as it was "laxed out". I hate the thought of holding people up and people getting sick of waiting. Just wanted to throw my two cents it for what it's worth.:confused:
All I can say is that the rides I have been on I have thoroughly enjoyed as there is such a great bunch of people (hey I even enjoy spending time with all of you when we aren't on bikes!!! :yes:) I really want to keep developing my riding while riding WITH a group of others. :scooter: :chase:
I have over the last couple of years been out riding regularly with the Local Ulysses club & have heard all sorts of points of view on group riding & the different abilitys within the group & how to best regulate large group riding, to this day they STILL have regular debates at monthly club nights as to why the group always breaks up & "why can't we stay together as a group instead of racing off & having to wait for the "tail" to catch up".....The consensus being you will generally have 3 main parts in any group ride, Run leader & lead riders, robust riders in the middle & cruiser's & tailend charlie at the rear, the Run leader & lead grp will need to wait at turn off points to allow group to reform & consult with other members of the group as to how they are feeling ( need break after twisty section etc, etc) as they will have more breaks than the rest of the grp when they are waiting at turn off points for the main grp. Simple structures within the group will allow everyone to enjoy the day & as mentioned before in this thread the golden rule is "RIDE YOUR OWN RIDE" ride to your ability & the lead riders WILL be waiting for you..
wysper
25th November 2008, 09:13
Simple structures within the group will allow everyone to enjoy the day & as mentioned before in this thread the golden rule is "RIDE YOUR OWN RIDE" ride to your ability & the lead riders WILL be waiting for you..
This is good to hear from one of the quicker riders. And can be easy to forget. It is reassuring to know the quick guys like insomnia and paddy will be waiting at turn offs and not muttering into their beards about how slow I am :niceone:
mister.koz
25th November 2008, 09:43
Sunday for me was just a blat around south waikato roads .. it was not organised as a learning environment at all, so I didn't treat it as such .. and of course this was the first time meeting most of you, so you probably pegged me as some kinda paedophile sporting a wierdo moustache :) .. fear not .. the moustache is coming off at the end of the month :P
Thats what we started with, going for laxed out rides that people aren't worried about racing, i am no teacher :)
Would recommend anyone who is unsure of themselves or nervous get specific training from someone who knows.
Was up late for migrane, home from work for the same reason so i wont be taking much today.
Murray
25th November 2008, 10:08
All very interesting and repetitive over and over again. After being in bed for almost 4 days now with the worst flu ever (3 other staff have it now), I finally get to catch up on Sundays ride. Sounds very much as I expected it would be, with the names enrolled. The only concern I would have with these kind of days is that inexperienced riders tend to push themselves too hard to keep up and sometimes with disastrous results. But obviously our group are above that!!
The thread was originally set up, not entirely as Brooke quoted previously, but in response to a thread from Munta called "Riding by myself - not much fun". the idea behind the group and its "mission statement" must always be to encourage and give confidence to all new riders. Never to judge them on there speed or lack of and to show patience and provide knowledge where needed. Some of the older riders (like myself) have done the ride fast as you can years and now (especially with pillion) like to just enjoy the day and the companionship. Thats why if Khryssie/ Tracey/ whoever wants to ride at 70-80 kph I will still stay at the back with them and enjoy the ride and hopefully the ride they are enjoying. All I expect from all members of the "Laxed out Group" is they wait where agreed, meet up regularly on each ride, follow guidelines given for each ride and respect each and every other member of the group for the mere fact that they want to ride a motorcycle.
Thats my policy advice for today. The only only suggestion that I would like to make is that if we continue to grow and I see no reason why we shouldnt them maybe we need to form a sub committee or two to make decisions on behalf of all rather than pages and pages of discussion on where we should meet and when?? maybe also decisions on entertainment, routes, etc.
Now I actually feel better and maybe a beer tonight might help. As always anyone feels like a beer after work I am more than happy to meet them at Te Rapa Tavern, just give us a bell!!!!!:done:
Mr. Rock
25th November 2008, 10:24
nicely put murray :)
this thread is growing at a rapid rate isnt it. haha.
mister.koz was it you that was thinking of recording the routes we do for future reference??
if we did that the route chooseing after we have a few down could get quicker. (i cant wait to start re-doing some of the roads we riden)
like the kawhia one that was awesome and the next time we go when ever that is it will be even better cause i wont be riding blind:ride:
wysper
25th November 2008, 10:53
like the kawhia one that was awesome and the next time we go when ever that is it will be even better cause i wont be riding blind:ride:
Well thats your trouble right there. Try opening your eyes. Makes it much easier... or are you just showing off?? :jerry::bleh:
Mr. Rock
25th November 2008, 11:11
F#@! i knew i was doing something wrong!! eyes open!!
mister.koz
25th November 2008, 11:35
nicely put murray :)
this thread is growing at a rapid rate isnt it. haha.
mister.koz was it you that was thinking of recording the routes we do for future reference??
if we did that the route chooseing after we have a few down could get quicker. (i cant wait to start re-doing some of the roads we riden)
like the kawhia one that was awesome and the next time we go when ever that is it will be even better cause i wont be riding blind:ride:
I got the camera so i could record my movements and other riders and learn from it. If someone wants me to record and follow them for a bit i can :)
I really liked the kawhia road myself but i would suggest approaching all roads like you have never ridden them, i think quasi menitioned something about that "tractor parked on the blind corner" earlier (100s of posts ago).
All doped up on painkillers now, don't expect coherence.
slofox
25th November 2008, 11:38
The only concern I would have with these kind of days is that inexperienced riders tend to push themselves too hard to keep up and sometimes with disastrous results. But obviously our group are above that!!
Not just inexperienced riders either Murray.......despite all the years I have ridden, the temptation to "keep up" remains.......as I found out a couple weeks ago...the odd squish of adrenalin here and there - enough to make me think again........
ckai
25th November 2008, 11:57
So speaking of rider development, is anyone going to the training day at Taupo this weekend put on by the Hamilton Motorcycle Club? I think someone mentioned it on Sunday. Looks like really good stuff and I'm a little annoyed I didn't know about it sooner. (group of 5 people for $90 each is good).
I would certainly say they would be all booked out considering its only in 4 or so days time.
Does anyone know how often they have these training type days on the track for road riding?
Squid
25th November 2008, 13:00
So speaking of rider development, is anyone going to the training day at Taupo this weekend put on by the Hamilton Motorcycle Club? I think someone mentioned it on Sunday. Looks like really good stuff and I'm a little annoyed I didn't know about it sooner. (group of 5 people for $90 each is good).
I would certainly say they would be all booked out considering its only in 4 or so days time.
Does anyone know how often they have these training type days on the track for road riding?
There is track days at taupo for bikes quite alot. Not all of them are set up for learners or teaching but ask and you shall receive. I'm doing a suzuki day in dec ($80 for a full track is pretty dam good I thought!!) From what I've heard from mates and others there's always plenty of ppl willing to give you good advice :hug:
Once you swallow any pride you have.... :whistle:
Mr. Rock
25th November 2008, 13:05
So speaking of rider development, is anyone going to the training day at Taupo this weekend put on by the Hamilton Motorcycle Club? I think someone mentioned it on Sunday. Looks like really good stuff and I'm a little annoyed I didn't know about it sooner. (group of 5 people for $90 each is good).
I would certainly say they would be all booked out considering its only in 4 or so days time.
Does anyone know how often they have these training type days on the track for road riding?
i was going to hold off untill i had my 600 before i went and did track days.. but hey if you are keen and we find a 250s welcome day PLEASE let me know and ill come along!!
mister.koz
25th November 2008, 13:35
Track days are a great idea, i am holdin off till late jan and i will be in with a grin.
I've been bugging quiet a few people who i know that are experienced riders about all sorts of things from counter steering to gettin the knee down to quick sliding out of corners, its all very interesting :) but you gotta ask.
If someone wants to be recorded on my little camera, just tell me and we can sus it out, then you have video to show someone and say "how did i do" Next trick is to get footage of me so i can do the same.
Brooke
25th November 2008, 17:17
Track days are a great idea, i am holdin off till late jan and i will be in with a grin.
I've been bugging quiet a few people who i know that are experienced riders about all sorts of things from counter steering to gettin the knee down to quick sliding out of corners, its all very interesting :) but you gotta ask.
If someone wants to be recorded on my little camera, just tell me and we can sus it out, then you have video to show someone and say "how did i do" Next trick is to get footage of me so i can do the same.
I'd offer for you to put your camera on my bike but somehow I don't think you'd get much of you riding, just the road in front! tee hee
Brooke
25th November 2008, 17:19
imagine how cool that would be if we ended up with our own club coz we grew so big, treasurer, president, secretary - he he that would be fun, we could do newletters and everything!
With the carpark thing for learning emegency breaking on I guess we would want something sealed so it's actually like being on the road. I thought concrete might be a bit slippery?
mister.koz
25th November 2008, 17:30
I'd offer for you to put your camera on my bike but somehow I don't think you'd get much of you riding, just the road in front! tee hee
hehe, well perhaps i should watch you cornering first then :)
imagine how cool that would be if we ended up with our own club coz we grew so big, treasurer, president, secretary - he he that would be fun, we could do newletters and everything!
With the carpark thing for learning emegency breaking on I guess we would want something sealed so it's actually like being on the road. I thought concrete might be a bit slippery?
Very good point on the surface thing :) not so sure about a club and all, its nicer that we are just like minded individuals who meet up to share a common passion.
Anyways, i am off for defensive driving :) ttfn :ride:
Tootle
25th November 2008, 18:43
Wow! I miss so much on here while I'm at work....Interesting discussion.
I would also be keen on some practice in a carpark or the like.
As for the laxed out rides Krissy and I will have our own party at the back of the pack so that's no worries :)...then we can tell ya all about it when we finally arrive at a checkpoint. By then we should have found 3rd gear :ride: :D
HACHET
25th November 2008, 19:16
if the learner .. or more appropriately .. developing riders are wanting advice / help / etc .. the best bet is to pluck up some courage, and go and ask a more experienced rider for assistance.
I've run a bunch of learner rides, and the group theory NEVER works on the road.
group teaching is fine on the track, but on the road is simply does not work.
one-on-one is the only way to go, if it is advice or education you're after.
if one of the developing riders asked me to guide or comment then I would hang back with the other rider, and not worry about where the group is riding.
If it is development you want, then the route taken is of very little consequence.
Previously, when I have run one-on-one days I have decided on a time and destination at the end of the day (like at the pub ;) ) then the pair (one learner, one teacher) split off, and do there own learning without the pressure of other bikes around them.
Then everyone can meet at the end of the day, and swap stories.
Sunday for me was just a blat around south waikato roads .. it was not organised as a learning environment at all, so I didn't treat it as such .. and of course this was the first time meeting most of you, so you probably pegged me as some kinda paedophile sporting a wierdo moustache :) .. fear not .. the moustache is coming off at the end of the month :P
I've taught a few people to ride, and at least one those riders is now a better rider than me, it just takes commitment from the person wanting to learn.
If you actually want some one to comment on skills / techniques / etc then ask around. Most experienced riders love talking about what they know, and what they can do.
Just remember to take advice with "a pinch of salt" .. just because I say something doesn't mean it is gospel .. I talk shyte too y'know
I agree with TA i have been riding for a fair few years now and if any of the developing riders would like some help then i am more than happy to help out weather it be with just advice or hanging back and riding at a more sedate pace to suit you guys, you dont get if you dont ask
Geeen
25th November 2008, 19:23
About the group ridin' thing, the only 2 group rides I've done have been with you lot & I've been ridin on the road since I was 17 (now 29, man I'm old!:baby:) so I wasn't tooo sure how I'd stack up. I learnt heaps from follown guys like Squid & Ian (tl1ooos?). The only thing I could add is "find your rhythm". It dont matter how how fast you go, when things fall into place its the most fun you can have with your clothes on. LOL. Well it works for me. All I gotta do now is get my very own bike, if only to stop munta nagging me.
HACHET
25th November 2008, 19:26
I got the camera so i could record my movements and other riders and learn from it. If someone wants me to record and follow them for a bit i can :)
I really liked the kawhia road myself but i would suggest approaching all roads like you have never ridden them, i think quasi menitioned something about that "tractor parked on the blind corner" earlier (100s of posts ago).
All doped up on painkillers now, don't expect coherence.
Mr koz your above comment is very sensible which surprises me :calm: but i agree with it and i am willing to help anybody who wants it the other option is to fit your cam to other riders so that they can learn from it aswell just a thought
HACHET
25th November 2008, 19:29
Track days are a great idea, i am holdin off till late jan and i will be in with a grin.
I've been bugging quiet a few people who i know that are experienced riders about all sorts of things from counter steering to gettin the knee down to quick sliding out of corners, its all very interesting :) but you gotta ask.
If someone wants to be recorded on my little camera, just tell me and we can sus it out, then you have video to show someone and say "how did i do" Next trick is to get footage of me so i can do the same.
bolt the cam on shrek and ill follow you man it helps having an ugly bike behind u
HACHET
25th November 2008, 19:36
i was speaking with dave on sunday and he was keen to go out and learn some road craft especially aboard the 10R which is a completly different animal to the m109r especially when it comes to lines through corners and corner speed im not saying im an expert but i like to help where i can
WhatThe???
25th November 2008, 19:38
Wow! I miss so much on here while I'm at work....Interesting discussion.
I would also be keen on some practice in a carpark or the like.
As for the laxed out rides Krissy and I will have our own party at the back of the pack so that's no worries :)...then we can tell ya all about it when we finally arrive at a checkpoint. By then we should have found 3rd gear :ride: :D
LOL!!! nicely put, and so so true :) im sure we both know 3rd gear though hehe
ckai
25th November 2008, 19:46
Sounds like we're on a roll now.
I would love to ask people for help but often don't know what I'm doing wrong. When you're this fresh you often don't know what things to ask people to work on or for them to look at. As for help on corners is a bit general but that's just my opinion. When you get to know people you become ok with asking them stupid things without felling like a nob :)
Oh and apparently Brooke comment about the club was sarcasm. Not even I picked up on that one!
rideon
25th November 2008, 19:48
Some pretty cool comments & advice from all on this thread. Years ago I didn't 'ride my own ride' & was keeping up with the big boys until, while trying to catch up, badly misjudged a 35 k corner , stood the bike up, locked up, & straight into a large flax bush . Fortunately the only thing dented was my pride. Not a single mark on the bike ........anywhere... or me. Very good lesson 4 me about riding within your own limits and riding your own ride. Awesome to see others in this group recognise this . Away 5 6 7 with Boyds on Far north trip , so can't make C & B. Looking foward to riding again with you guys again sumtime.:niceone:
HACHET
25th November 2008, 19:51
Some pretty cool comments & advice from all on this thread. Years ago I didn't 'ride my own ride' & was keeping up with the big boys until, while trying to catch up, badly misjudged a 35 k corner , stood the bike up, locked up, & straight into a large flax bush . Fortunately the only thing dented was my pride. Not a single mark on the bike ........anywhere... or me. Very good lesson 4 me about riding within your own limits and riding your own ride. Awesome to see others in this group recognise this . Away 5 6 7 with Boyds on Far north trip , so can't make C & B. Looking foward to riding again with you guys again sumtime.:niceone:
im on the boyds trip so look forward to catching up with you then
HACHET
25th November 2008, 19:53
Sounds like we're on a roll now.
I would love to ask people for help but often don't know what I'm doing wrong. When you're this fresh you often don't know what things to ask people to work on or for them to look at. As for help on corners is a bit general but that's just my opinion. When you get to know people you become ok with asking them stupid things without felling like a nob :)
Oh and apparently Brooke comment about the club was sarcasm. Not even I picked up on that one!
i think we all know each other well enough now to ask questions without looking like a nob and generally anyone whos into bikes does not mind answering questions about anything
HACHET
25th November 2008, 19:55
does anyone know how to change your username without creating a whole new profile please im dumb help me
rideon
25th November 2008, 19:55
Can't wait......did it a couple years bak & it was a wicked trip. Look fwrd to catching up 2
Brooke
25th November 2008, 19:57
I guess the biggest thing for me with being a noob is that I don't know what I am doing right and what I am doing wrong. If anyone can help with what to do and not do to at any time would be greatly appreciate (of course this only applied to me riding my bike! I know everything else :yes:) lol
TerminalAddict
25th November 2008, 20:15
does anyone know how to change your username without creating a whole new profile please im dumb help me
PM mental trousers .. and don't pick a username associated with a bike? :bleh:
mister.koz
25th November 2008, 21:12
Righty, well it looks like we are all cooking with gas :) Thanks everyone for offering to help (and reminding us to ask)
This is one of the reasons i reckon a "getting on the piss" evening together is a good one, we can break down those worrying walls.
With the video camera thing i also have access to a projector and perhaps a largish lounge where a few of us could sit around checking out the vids and conversing about tactics etc etc, just an idea.
I may be able to organise a night at some stage where we can take our bikes somewhere and get the suspension and brakes set up right by someone who knows exactly how. I can't give out too much details yet but a small show of hands would be good to know so i can have a chat to my mates and figure out pricing etc (prolly not much)
Has everyone here who's going this weekend click the "attend" button on the charity ride?
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1771&day=2008-11-30&
And has everyone who wants to go into the draw ($100) to win choppa's zx10? (see my signature) - if you need a hand, give me a PM or a text.
2 wheel madness
25th November 2008, 21:25
So speaking of rider development, is anyone going to the training day at Taupo this weekend put on by the Hamilton Motorcycle Club? I think someone mentioned it on Sunday. Looks like really good stuff and I'm a little annoyed I didn't know about it sooner. (group of 5 people for $90 each is good).
I would certainly say they would be all booked out considering its only in 4 or so days time.
Does anyone know how often they have these training type days on the track for road riding?
Email hmcc@priorityprint.co.nz to find out if there are any places left. I will be there and am happy to help with advise if wanted, although on that day there would likely be better advise on offer.
2 wheel madness
25th November 2008, 21:38
i was going to hold off untill i had my 600 before i went and did track days.. but hey if you are keen and we find a 250s welcome day PLEASE let me know and ill come along!!
Try the hmcc day if youre a bit nevous of having a 250 at a track, you will learn a lot more from riding a slower bike on a track than you ever will on a big powerful one.
If you can master the riding skills on a smaller bike then you will be more comfortable, confident and safer if and when you decide the time comes to move to a bigger bike. Not to mention you will be a better rider for it!
ckai
26th November 2008, 06:34
Righty, well it looks like we are all cooking with gas :) Thanks everyone for offering to help (and reminding us to ask)
This is one of the reasons i reckon a "getting on the piss" evening together is a good one, we can break down those worrying walls.
With the video camera thing i also have access to a projector and perhaps a largish lounge where a few of us could sit around checking out the vids and conversing about tactics etc etc, just an idea.
I may be able to organise a night at some stage where we can take our bikes somewhere and get the suspension and brakes set up right by someone who knows exactly how. I can't give out too much details yet but a small show of hands would be good to know so i can have a chat to my mates and figure out pricing etc (prolly not much)
Vid session is getting pretty flash and technical but am all for it. We used all the time when I rowed and when I started coaching, had at least 2 vid sessions a season. You learn heaps.
If I had a bike that I could set up I'd be keen but rear shock only does preload so not much point in that :)
Email hmcc@priorityprint.co.nz to find out if there are any places left. I will be there and am happy to help with advise if wanted, although on that day there would likely be better advise on offer.
Thanks mate. I fired off an email this morning so we'll see what happens. If, by some miracle, there are spots available I reckon it's a good enough cause to get out of baby sitting ;)
Try the hmcc day if youre a bit nevous of having a 250 at a track, you will learn a lot more from riding a slower bike on a track than you ever will on a big powerful one.
If you can master the riding skills on a smaller bike then you will be more comfortable, confident and safer if and when you decide the time comes to move to a bigger bike. Not to mention you will be a better rider for it!
This was my logic, and when a mate has gone from a Duc 748 to a 250 you know they gotta have some value in playing with :Punk:
Mr. Rock
26th November 2008, 07:19
do you wanna let me know what happens with the email you sent please ckai..
TerminalAddict
26th November 2008, 07:30
Email .... I will be there and am happy to help with advise if wanted, although on that day there would likely be better advise on offer.
are you going down on the 'pril or the race bike?
Mr. Rock
26th November 2008, 07:32
our sunday ride is the charity ride???
wysper
26th November 2008, 07:39
our sunday ride is the charity ride???
I believe so
Mr. Rock
26th November 2008, 08:10
sweet.. sounds good
M109R Cruising
26th November 2008, 08:23
[QUOTE=mister.koz;1825109]
I may be able to organise a night at some stage where we can take our bikes somewhere and get the suspension and brakes set up right by someone who knows exactly how. I can't give out too much details yet but a small show of hands would be good to know so i can have a chat to my mates and figure out pricing etc (prolly not much)
That sounds good to me, I tried doing it myself. Its alot sorter than when i first got my new bike as it was set up for a track. Im going to take the zx-10 down to speed_tect anyway for brake and clutch adjustment and a wheelie plate.
I find some of those video camera's like Adam has, They cost $300, Might have to get one for the lawn mower.
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 08:23
our sunday ride is the charity ride???
Yeah, someone suggested it last week, thought it would be a cool idea :)
wysper
26th November 2008, 08:29
I may be able to organise a night at some stage where we can take our bikes somewhere and get the suspension and brakes set up right by someone who knows exactly how. I can't give out too much details yet but a small show of hands would be good to know so i can have a chat to my mates and figure out pricing etc (prolly not much)
And has everyone who wants to go into the draw ($100) to win choppa's zx10? (see my signature) - if you need a hand, give me a PM or a text.
Dang it - I am having to book the SV for a trip to the Dyno .. not sure I will be able to afford other work too :)
Oh and I have turned off the display signature thing.. might have to turn it back on LOL
I find some of those video camera's like Adam has, They cost $300, Might have to get one for the lawn mower.
If you would like to test the lawnmower cam out on lawns other than your own.. ours will always be available to you :done:
WhatThe???
26th November 2008, 08:35
If you would like to test the lawnmower cam out on lawns other than your own.. ours will always be available to you :done:
lol...mower-cam his mowing the paddock was funny enough
Mr. Rock
26th November 2008, 08:35
I find some of those video camera's like Adam has, They cost $300, Might have to get one for the lawn mower.
torpedo7 has them on special http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/OSCMHNN2K there is the link
ckai
26th November 2008, 08:37
do you wanna let me know what happens with the email you sent please ckai..
Will do. I also asked them about how often they do them so I'm more prepared next time. Although I think it said on a flyer it's an annual thing. I could be wrong.
ckai
26th November 2008, 08:39
torpedo7 has them on special http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/OSCMHNN2K there is the link
Just remember it's only for this week, so people better hurry if they want one.
Mr. Rock
26th November 2008, 08:53
yea i just brought one.. haha well y not they dirt cheap
Murray
26th November 2008, 09:10
Yeah, someone suggested it last week, thought it would be a cool idea :)
Yes a dictorial decision was made that the charity ride is it for this Sunday. The following weekend is the drinks on Saturday night and route Sunday still to be decided. Its looking like Coro may be later in December and also with Brooke/Cameron/Ian/Davesh/Paddy??? away on 5/6/7 with Pukekohe and Boyds Northland ride my suggestion for a ride on 7th is Kawhia (again). Great quieter roads for the new bike riders and may be just the right distance etc after a night out on the piss.
And everyone who did it a few weeks ago wants to do it again!!!
I would like to get my coffee at the end this time as well!!!!
Rather than pages & pages of discussion I say if we get 3 yes'es for Kawhia on the 7th December then it is set in concrete. Any yes'es out there??
jmk
26th November 2008, 09:49
Rather than pages & pages of discussion I say if we get 3 yes'es for Kawhia on the 7th December then it is set in concrete. Any yes'es out there??
We are a no for the 7th
Mr. Rock
26th November 2008, 10:02
i am a yes for kawhia on the 7th
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 10:23
Kawhia is go for me too, love that ride.
M109R Cruising
26th November 2008, 10:36
Kawhia is a yes for me, This time i might not show you 20 minutes later and have half the pegs lefted on the corners.
That will be cool.
Warr
26th November 2008, 10:44
.........
I may be able to organise a night at some stage where we can take our bikes somewhere and get the suspension and brakes set up right by someone who knows exactly how. I can't give out too much details yet but a small show of hands would be good to know so i can have a chat to my mates and figure out pricing etc (prolly not much)
...................
I havent got a bike just now but would be interested in tagging along and getting a peek at this "dark art"
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 11:01
I havent got a bike just now but would be interested in tagging along and getting a peek at this "dark art"
Will sound the guys out about it. It could be a "we all go to a track day and get our bikes set up there" thing, not sure yet.
Murray
26th November 2008, 11:04
i am a yes for kawhia on the 7th
Kawhia is go for me too, love that ride.
Kawhia is a yes for me, This time i might not show you 20 minutes later and have half the pegs lefted on the corners.
That will be cool.
Thats done!!! Sold, dusted, thanks for coming, decision made!!! Can someone put it on calendar with usual 9.30 $10 bfast option included.
Should we put a calendar entry in (Mr Wysper) for the 6th Cock & Bull so people can register , then we will have an idea of numbers (I suppose this wont take into account partners??? and those there for the beer only or those wanting to eat???)
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 11:30
Thats done!!! Sold, dusted, thanks for coming, decision made!!! Can someone put it on calendar with usual 9.30 $10 bfast option included.
Should we put a calendar entry in (Mr Wysper) for the 6th Cock & Bull so people can register , then we will have an idea of numbers (I suppose this wont take into account partners??? and those there for the beer only or those wanting to eat???)
Hold up, we should get a little more input into the idea before we go setting it up, there is time for planning the 7th :)
Mr. Rock
26th November 2008, 11:51
does any one know the route of the charity ride this sunday?
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 12:18
does any one know the route of the charity ride this sunday?
Don't know bro, its 3 hours estimated so i reckn we got about 200km to travel. Its likely to be on main route's as well because its a public facing idea.
Anyways, are there any complaints about kawhia on the 7th of next month? I will have a yarn to a couple of people and sus out a route that starts a little different from last time - just to keep it interesting.
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 12:55
Right had some spare time to put this map together at the end of lunch so i did a quick draw of a kawhia route.
I like this plan, though it might be similar to another one i saw - tired brain.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1783&day=2008-12-7
Anyways, as always suggestions on a route are welcome :)
For those interested, here's a couple of PDF's i got a while ago with riding tips and hand signals for group riding - i think wysper sent them to me (cheerz dude)
Some really good information in there, tho i don't recommend wheelies or stoppies unless you are prepared to scratch some fairings in the process :)
WhatThe???
26th November 2008, 13:22
We will be there too :) I put myself on the list lol. Have saved the pdf's they look like a good read, thanks :)
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 13:40
We will be there too :) I put myself on the list lol. Have saved the pdf's they look like a good read, thanks :)
No worries :) thinking about taking togs to kawhia.. see how it goes.
WhatThe???
26th November 2008, 13:42
No worries :) thinking about taking togs to kawhia.. see how it goes.
lol I said the same to dave
wysper
26th November 2008, 15:03
No worries :) thinking about taking togs to kawhia.. see how it goes.
ooo now thats a good idea. Thats using that noggin of yours. Course then would need a towel....
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 15:04
ooo now thats a good idea. Thats using that noggin of yours. Course then would need a towel....
yeah, tank bag :) you got one yet?
wysper
26th November 2008, 15:14
yeah, tank bag :) you got one yet?
Ordered one from Speed Tech. Not sure when it will be here. :soon:
ckai
26th November 2008, 15:17
No worries :) thinking about taking togs to kawhia.. see how it goes.
I am very much pleased I won't be able to make the Kawhia part II ride...the last thing I want to see is Koz in his GREEN budgie smugglers!
:eek5:
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 15:20
I could arrange a private screening :eek:
jmk
26th November 2008, 15:35
does any one know the route of the charity ride this sunday?
We did the charity ride last year. I am not sure if it is the same this year or not. The route last year was up to Ngaruawahia turn left at BP out past Waingaro, Glen Massey Naike?, and followed that road out to Rangiriri, up no 1 to Te Kauwhata for a rest then Waeranga Rd, Waikare Road past the lake, then left on Tahuna road, right in rutherford road, right into Orini road, right onto Gordonton road, left on to no 1 back to te rapa and to the school for a yummy BBQ. Is $5 per person whether you rider or passenger, and they had some great raffles and spot prizes
slofox
26th November 2008, 15:47
We did the charity ride last year. I am not sure if it is the same this year or not. The route last year was up to Ngaruawahia turn left at BP out past Waingaro, Glen Massey Naike?, and followed that road out to Rangiriri, up no 1 to Te Kauwhata for a rest then Waeranga Rd, Waikare Road past the lake, then left on Tahuna road, right in rutherford road, right into Orini road, right onto Gordonton road, left on to no 1 back to te rapa and to the school for a yummy BBQ. Is $5 per person whether you rider or passenger, and they had some great raffles and spot prizes
Was wondering about this route as well...sounds like the one we did a coupla weeks back but in reverse........will have a look on Sunday.
Starter for Kawhia as well - training season is over for the summer..woooohooooo.
Tootle
26th November 2008, 17:26
I'm in for the 7th...Even going to bring my own bike...Yeh!
Was going to bring the camera but am a bit worried about all the glare off those of you brave enought to take a dip :p lol.
WhatThe???
26th November 2008, 19:05
I'm in for the 7th...Even going to bring my own bike...Yeh!
Was going to bring the camera but am a bit worried about all the glare off those of you brave enought to take a dip :p lol.
woohoo!! me too :D dont think il swim though, might blind ya's
eww, budgie smugglers..:sick::puke:
HACHET
26th November 2008, 20:18
ok i am very envious of the plans for the next few weeks as i will not be attending as i have too much stuff going on i might come down and see you on sunday morn to see you off and might get the missus on the back for the first time in six years but we will see. i would love to do the coro loop with you guys maybe its an idea for the 21st december anyones input would be good the only thing i wont miss is the view of mister koz and dave in speedos at kawhia too much info :banana:
HACHET
26th November 2008, 20:21
i am very keen on the suspension set up offer as this seems to be a very specialist art ive tried and failed dismally so if the offer is ther i am keen did i say i was keen not sure:2thumbsup
Brooke
26th November 2008, 21:16
sounds cool, I'm with you for the 21st as I won't be joining in on the next two weekends either :crybaby:
with the ride for the 21st anyone know of any good roads to go on that won't be filled with christmas traffic? I just know that the way to thames gets all the jafas going there and has backed up traffic for ages to go over some bridge or something? I don't even know the roads for the coro loop but just thought I would throw that out there so we don't spend a whole lot of time stuck behind cars :)
mister.koz
26th November 2008, 21:27
i am very keen on the suspension set up offer as this seems to be a very specialist art ive tried and failed dismally so if the offer is ther i am keen did i say i was keen not sure:2thumbsup
Sweet as dude, will try and arrange it, got some knowledgeable people around me :)
And no i would rather go swimming starkers than in speedo's, some thing's were meant to run free!
With the silly season traffic for the 21st, we might miss it. i am from whangamata after all and i know what that place is like over the mad moments the worst of the traffic is 26th - 5th but i am still dubious about the 21st.
Not sure i will have to ask some spies who are still over there before we go.
jmk
27th November 2008, 06:42
With the silly season traffic for the 21st, we might miss it. i am from whangamata after all and i know what that place is like over the mad moments the worst of the traffic is 26th - 5th but i am still dubious about the 21st.
Not sure i will have to ask some spies who are still over there before we go.
Not sure whereabouts it is apart from Paeroa way but there is a road called Hubbard Road that you can use to avoid the Kopu bridge :woohoo:
And morning everyone on this lovely :sunny: day
Have a good one am off shopping today (just wish it was :scooter: well grown up :scooter: shopping!!!)
Murray
27th November 2008, 08:23
Hold up, we should get a little more input into the idea before we go setting it up, there is time for planning the 7th :)
Anyways, are there any complaints about kawhia on the 7th of next month? I will have a yarn to a couple of people and sus out a route that starts a little different from last time - just to keep it interesting.
Right had some spare time to put this map together at the end of lunch so i did a quick draw of a kawhia route.
I like this plan, though it might be similar to another one i saw - tired brain.
Anyways, as always suggestions on a route are welcome :)
:)
What drugs are you on "Hold up more input" then "are there any complaints" then "heres a route but any suggestions are welcome". And its now on the calendar.
God is it that hard for anyone to actually make a decision in NZ these days without going to committee, getting a feasibility study done, wanting everyone to have there say. Kawhia it is, as per route on Calander. If you don't like it don't come end of story.
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 09:07
What drugs are you on "Hold up more input" then "are there any complaints" then "heres a route but any suggestions are welcome". And its now on the calendar.
God is it that hard for anyone to actually make a decision in NZ these days without going to committee, getting a feasibility study done, wanting everyone to have there say. Kawhia it is, as per route on Calander. If you don't like it don't come end of story.
:bleh: :bleh:
Calm down i was having a very bad day.
There's been lots of words like committee and president and secretary (i think) but don't loose sight of this being a group of people hanging out together sharing a passion for riding, I for one HATE being told what to do.
Besides i know nothing about these routes and someone might have stumbled on gravel on this route or find a better one by then so of course its flexible.
So if there is a meteor shower or some other natural or un-natural element effecting our ride to kawhia we can change it.
Gravy?
Murray
27th November 2008, 09:20
:bleh: :bleh:
There's been lots of words like committee and president and secretary (i think) but don't loose sight of this being a group of people hanging out together sharing a passion for riding, I for one HATE being told what to do.
Gravy?
Everyone hates being told what to do but I think we have got to the stage (15+ bikes) that maybe 3 people need to make a decision on routes to be travelled, rather than put it up for pages and pages of public discussion.
I think that maybe on the 6th we need to do a few "business things" and get some of this sort of stuff out the way???:cool::cool::cool:
ckai
27th November 2008, 09:25
What drugs are you on "Hold up more input" then "are there any complaints" then "heres a route but any suggestions are welcome". And its now on the calendar.
God is it that hard for anyone to actually make a decision in NZ these days without going to committee, getting a feasibility study done, wanting everyone to have there say. Kawhia it is, as per route on Calander. If you don't like it don't come end of story.
hahah I was thinking the same. It was obviously some pretty good shit. By the looks, he seemed to get better as the day got on looking at his decisiveness by the end of the day :)
And you're right, everything needs to be signed in triplicate once prior approval from the voting committee has been sought. Did you not get that memo?
:bleh: :bleh:
Calm down i was having a very bad day.
There's been lots of words like committee and president and secretary (i think) but don't loose sight of this being a group of people hanging out together sharing a passion for riding, I for one HATE being told what to do.
Besides i know nothing about these routes and someone might have stumbled on gravel on this route or find a better one by then so of course its flexible.
So if there is a meteor shower or some other natural or un-natural element effecting our ride to kawhia we can change it.
Gravy?
KOZ FOR PRESIDENT!!
The question is, do I get a bite??
:rofl:(Sorry I needed to do it one last time, I promise)
Gravel roads? Where's your sense of adventure? If the mapping system you use uses google maps as it's base (most do I think), any roads your unsure of regarding sealed, just zoom in. Dashed roads are for subbies only ;) I worked that out the other day when plotting. Thought it was dumb they showed every road around here as sealed then when I zoomed in there was a few that were dashed.
ckai
27th November 2008, 09:30
Everyone hates being told what to do but I think we have got to the stage (15+ bikes) that maybe 3 people need to make a decision on routes to be travelled, rather than put it up for pages and pages of public discussion.
I think that maybe on the 6th we need to do a few "business things" and get some of this sort of stuff out the way???:cool::cool::cool:
Wow Murray, you make good sense most of the time :)
I for one am in for someone saying this is were we're going (been doing it up till now). If no one has a clue, first suggestion wins. If it's bullocks and no one likes it, they shout everyone a round! No love lost and it sets us up for more piss taking material.
I'm a little disappointed I can't make Kawhia Part II but I will be hauling ass around a Taupo getting taught how to back into corners :Punk: (well, not so much but it should be a good day).
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 09:36
Everyone hates being told what to do but I think we have got to the stage (15+ bikes) that maybe 3 people need to make a decision on routes to be travelled, rather than put it up for pages and pages of public discussion.
I think that maybe on the 6th we need to do a few "business things" and get some of this sort of stuff out the way???:cool::cool::cool:
I was going to suggest we have a yarn about organization stuff on the 6th, i think it would be a good idea to at least have an idea of management.
:rofl:(Sorry I needed to do it one last time, I promise)
Gravel roads? Where's your sense of adventure? If the mapping system you use uses google maps as it's base (most do I think), any roads your unsure of regarding sealed, just zoom in. Dashed roads are for subbies only ;) I worked that out the other day when plotting. Thought it was dumb they showed every road around here as sealed then when I zoomed in there was a few that were dashed.
Last time yeah right, sound like a reformed drinker :bleh:
I had better get a salute from you next time i see you or i will have my body guards pull yer toenails out :Pokey:
There is this thing called periodic maintenance they do on the road periodically to maintain it allot like the stretch we had on the way to port waikato or the 600m of road on the way to taranaki that fell away leaving a 50km detour a few years back.
WhatThe???
27th November 2008, 09:51
Everyone hates being told what to do but I think we have got to the stage (15+ bikes) that maybe 3 people need to make a decision on routes to be travelled, rather than put it up for pages and pages of public discussion.
I think that maybe on the 6th we need to do a few "business things" and get some of this sort of stuff out the way???:cool::cool::cool:
lol that sounds like code for drinkies. But you guys are right, we all need to know what it is we're all doing
WhatThe???
27th November 2008, 09:52
oh duuuhh....just rememberd what we doin on the 6th....dont mind my blondeness
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 09:53
oh duuuhh....just rememberd what we doin on the 6th....dont mind my blondeness
hehehehe :)
ckai
27th November 2008, 09:59
There is this thing called periodic maintenance they do on the road periodically to maintain it allot like the stretch we had on the way to port waikato or the 600m of road on the way to taranaki that fell away leaving a 50km detour a few years back.
Ooooohhhhhh that type of "gravel", so why didn't you just say "piss poor road maintenance".
Or that detour I had to take going to Mangakino due to the road being closed a few weeks back that did end up going down a gravel road (for the detour). It was fun but I did have one "moment".
Shit that reminds me, I'll have to check if it's open again because I'm not keen on taking the Hyobag rallying for some 10-20 km.
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 10:29
Ooooohhhhhh that type of "gravel", so why didn't you just say "piss poor road maintenance".
Or that detour I had to take going to Mangakino due to the road being closed a few weeks back that did end up going down a gravel road (for the detour). It was fun but I did have one "moment".
Shit that reminds me, I'll have to check if it's open again because I'm not keen on taking the Hyobag rallying for some 10-20 km.
Yeah the ol' sport tires aint so good on gravel :s and the dust makes my tires slipery :crazy: for a few kms after... its not cricket, hell its not even softball.... :whistle:
Murray
27th November 2008, 10:39
So is that road back from Kawhia - Te Kuiti sealed all the way??? Must say I never even knew there was road there???
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 10:41
So is that road back from Kawhia - Te Kuiti sealed all the way??? Must say I never even knew there was road there???
A very good point, hence why the route is subject to opinion and suggestion
As far as i can tell from the map software it is sealed.
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 10:47
And i am pretty sure thats the way we came back last week, anyone else remember? i was concentrating on the corners rather than the geography :)
insomnia01
27th November 2008, 11:01
So is that road back from Kawhia - Te Kuiti sealed all the way??? Must say I never even knew there was road there???
I would assume you are talking about Harbour rd & Te Anga rd's which will lead you to Waitomo were we came out last week?? if so, Yes this road is sealed all the way to Waitomo. When you arrive here instead of heading to main SH3 which we did on last run you can turn on to Fullerton rd follow to Oparure rd onto Mairoa rd pop into Pio pio then boggie back to TK that way.
All good :headbang::headbang:
HACHET
27th November 2008, 11:38
All this talk about having a committee to decide on a route for a paticular ride seems a little over the top,i agree that our rides maybe need to be organised a bit better especially with the amount we have and everyone has an idea on a route at some time so maybe the easy way to do it is to nominate a different person to plan a ride and route each week so that everybody has a chance to have an input into our group and if the developing riders are not comfortable with leading the group on there ride then they can nominate someone else to lead and follow the route they have planned. This is just a thought off the top of my nogging, what do all you guys think.maybe this idea is crap and if so i apologise for being daft.:scratch:
Murray
27th November 2008, 11:59
All this talk about having a committee to decide on a route for a paticular ride seems a little over the top,i agree that our rides maybe need to be organised a bit better especially with the amount we have and everyone has an idea on a route at some time so maybe the easy way to do it is to nominate a different person to plan a ride and route each week so that everybody has a chance to have an input into our group and if the developing riders are not comfortable with leading the group on there ride then they can nominate someone else to lead and follow the route they have planned. This is just a thought off the top of my nogging, what do all you guys think.maybe this idea is crap and if so i apologise for being daft.:scratch:
Great idea, you do us a route for the 14th then. :clap::clap::clap::clap:
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 12:01
I would assume you are talking about Harbour rd & Te Anga rd's which will lead you to Waitomo were we came out last week?? if so, Yes this road is sealed all the way to Waitomo. When you arrive here instead of heading to main SH3 which we did on last run you can turn on to Fullerton rd follow to Oparure rd onto Mairoa rd pop into Pio pio then boggie back to TK that way.
All good :headbang::headbang:
Sweet cheerz man i thought it was where we went last week, loved that ride, my only worry is that it might just be a bit too much twisties for my head :) so a swim in the middle might be in order!
All this talk about having a committee to decide on a route for a paticular ride seems a little over the top,i agree that our rides maybe need to be organised a bit better especially with the amount we have and everyone has an idea on a route at some time so maybe the easy way to do it is to nominate a different person to plan a ride and route each week so that everybody has a chance to have an input into our group and if the developing riders are not comfortable with leading the group on there ride then they can nominate someone else to lead and follow the route they have planned. This is just a thought off the top of my nogging, what do all you guys think.maybe this idea is crap and if so i apologise for being daft.:scratch:
Sounds pretty cool, i don't think its a daft plan at all. We should all sit around and put our heads together on how to organize it tho.
I don't want these rides to become too prescribed, simplicity is what has made them great so far, the first few rides we only really had a direction in mind, now we are setting maps with waypoints, talking about front leaders, middle leaders and tail riders.
If our group gets too big and needs organising maybe we need to have a couple of smaller relaxed groups.
Anyways, i think for a start we should split the general with the specifics, perhaps leave this thread for talking and shit-slinging and start a new one for routes and planning, wont need to start the planning thread till after the 7th anyways.
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 12:13
On a different note, i am putting together some longer routes (600km and more) with the idea of doing weekend trips or possibly longer.
Just wondering how many people would be keen on that sort of weekend ride?
One that i am planning to do (even by myself) is my taranaki loop (http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/Taranaki-loop) which i would do over saturday & sunday staying in New plymouth or waitara with family or backpackers.
I am planning to do this one mid january to mid feb.
ckai
27th November 2008, 12:13
All this talk about having a committee to decide on a route for a paticular ride seems a little over the top,i agree that our rides maybe need to be organised a bit better especially with the amount we have and everyone has an idea on a route at some time so maybe the easy way to do it is to nominate a different person to plan a ride and route each week so that everybody has a chance to have an input into our group and if the developing riders are not comfortable with leading the group on there ride then they can nominate someone else to lead and follow the route they have planned. This is just a thought off the top of my nogging, what do all you guys think.maybe this idea is crap and if so i apologise for being daft.:scratch:
You're daft
Murray
27th November 2008, 12:14
lets form a committee to talk about forming a thread on routes etc and why can't we get a consultant to advise on the best possible ramification scenario which meets resourcial consensual liabilities, while of course meeting all statuatory limitations within and accredited tertiary approved systematic scheme.
Oh stuff it lets just go for a bike ride
ckai
27th November 2008, 12:16
haha na it is a good idea. With Koz on keeping it simple. I don't think the "commitee" suggestion was a "let's take minutes" formal style, more of a "you 3 have been picking routes so far, so keep doing it and we'll follow ya. Let us know if you need a hand" type of thing. Did I get that right?
ckai
27th November 2008, 12:17
lets form a committee to talk about forming a thread on routes etc and why can't we get a consultant to advise on the best possible ramification scenario which meets resourcial consensual liabilities, while of course meeting all statuatory limitations within and accredited tertiary approved systematic scheme.
Oh stuff it lets just go for a bike ride
:rofl:
Shit now I've forgotten what else I wanted to add
ckai
27th November 2008, 12:25
On a different note, i am putting together some longer routes (600km and more) with the idea of doing weekend trips or possibly longer.
Just wondering how many people would be keen on that sort of weekend ride?
One that i am planning to do (even by myself) is my taranaki loop (http://www.motowhere.com/maps/route/Taranaki-loop) which i would do over saturday & sunday staying in New plymouth or waitara with family or backpackers.
I am planning to do this one mid january to mid feb.
I'd be keen for that type of shenanigans. Although if Brooke hasn't told her parents about her bike we may have to stay away from New Plymoth :lol:
Ooo I can't wait for her to read this post tonight :) Just to help her out, does anyone want to ring her parents and tell them that she's a biker chick? haha They'll ask me if I got her into it or something.
Oh that's right about the new thread. I heard this site is getting updated and the social group thing will be similar to this. I don't know when it's happening but I read a thread about it the other day in Site Stuff. It would be good to know cause then this can be route planning and the social group can be for bullocks like the original plan was.
I think Metal Pants or Mental Trousers ( :) )or someone like that (admin person) was saying it.
ckai
27th November 2008, 12:34
This is the thread I was thinking of http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=83046. Wysper asked a question but hasn't been answered on it. I may have misinterupted what they meant by "threaded". Is that what it is at the moment or is it more like this?
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 12:34
I'd be keen for that type of shenanigans. Although if Brooke hasn't told her parents about her bike we may have to stay away from New Plymoth :lol:
Ooo I can't wait for her to read this post tonight :) Just to help her out, does anyone want to ring her parents and tell them that she's a biker chick? haha They'll ask me if I got her into it or something.
Oh that's right about the new thread. I heard this site is getting updated and the social group thing will be similar to this. I don't know when it's happening but I read a thread about it the other day in Site Stuff. It would be good to know cause then this can be route planning and the social group can be for bullocks like the original plan was.
I think Metal Pants or Mental Trousers ( :) )or someone like that (admin person) was saying it.
Cool, will keep you posted on taranaki, we may even pick up a few along the way, its a pretty cool road, i am sure with notice we can take over the lounge/lawn of people i know down there :)
Its tempting to start up a forum of my own, i have the servers with the horsepower :) then we could have 100s of threads if needed of course everyone's here so we should move :mellow:
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 12:36
oops - typo - I mean "shouldn't move" :)
wysper
27th November 2008, 12:40
this all seems to be getting pretty complicated from what started as a pretty simple idea.
Koz is trying pretty hard to keep things going and working for everyone.
Maybe we do what we did for the first one.
Pick a destination. Choose a route on the day. Choose a leader on the day.
Have fun.
For me - I like the idea of starting at a cafe. Have a coffee, bit of a chat about which way we can go, and then go. Paddy knows heaps of great roads and is a fantastic leader of the ride. Koz has been doing great work making sure everyones voice is heard.
Me, I am a lazy prick, sarcastic and don't know shit about riding or what roads are out there so am happy to go with the flow.
I enjoy the piss taking but it can be demoralising when all you are trying to do is make a fun day out for everyone. I am pretty guilty of pisstaking.. cant help myself. But can understand that it makes a job much harder.
I don't go on the rides to learn I go on the rides for fun and a day out with like minded people. I will go to track days to learn or quietly approach someone I have respect for personally and respect for the skills I see them with. So for me this is more about a fun time. If it gets all bogged down in politics and talk of management etc.. you can count me out.
Thanks for reading
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mister.koz
27th November 2008, 12:44
I don't go on the rides to learn I go on the rides for fun and a day out with like minded people. I will go to track days to learn or quietly approach someone I have respect for personally and respect for the skills I see them with. So for me this is more about a fun time. If it gets all bogged down in politics and talk of management etc.. you can count me out.
Thanks for reading
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Thanks dude, i am with you there on all of it. If our fun and crusy rides get boring then they aren't fun anymore.
Murray
27th November 2008, 13:15
haha na it is a good idea. With Koz on keeping it simple. I don't think the "commitee" suggestion was a "let's take minutes" formal style, more of a "you 3 have been picking routes so far, so keep doing it and we'll follow ya. Let us know if you need a hand" type of thing. Did I get that right?
Spot on!!!! and Mr Wysper your a "sarcastic prick", surely not!!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
ckai
27th November 2008, 13:19
this all seems to be getting pretty complicated from what started as a pretty simple idea.
Koz is trying pretty hard to keep things going and working for everyone.
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I agree with most of it. If it gets to structured then it'll be a shame. It needs to stay relaxed. I still think people maybe misinterpreting the "structure" bit of what people have been saying.
I like the idea of starting at Kingsgate for brekky.
I like the idea of stopping at a cafe that is out of the way on route (this one is my suggestion)
I agree wysper, you are lazy and all the other stuff about yourself ;)
I agree that Koz is doing it all.
I think that the maps are cool but I know working from them they are an asshole. Unless you're doing them for yourself Koz, I wouldn't worry about them. Even stating the basic route i.e. Head out to Kawhia via such and such a place maybe the go. If someone wants to know the exact route for meeting they ask the leader for the day (Ian's idea).
I'm willing to put the ride in the calendar (if I work it out), even route details if someone gives them to me.
Maybe freewheeling the route is a good idea. We'll most probably get Paddy leading all of them though. Fine by me, I only see him at the stops.
insomnia01
27th November 2008, 13:49
One thing to remember is the run's have only just started & yes I'm sure everyone has a route of their own in mind that they would love to share with the rest of us but, we only met once a week & there is only so many weeks in a month..... another trick the Ulysses have is their own run's committee which consists of @ 4- 5 ppl their primary function is to organise run's for the coming weeks, appoint a run's leader ( normally the person from within the run's committee who has planned said run ) nominate a tailend charlie & give all riders a quick brief on where we are heading coffee & lunch stops etc etc. If some has a run they would like to try or a suggested route this can be passed onto someone within the run's committee to be looked at & possible nominated for a sunday's ride. thoughts??
ckai
27th November 2008, 14:57
OK, here's my little take on things. Warning this maybe long and feel free to correct anything I have wrong. I also know that this could be discussed on the 6th but I have a funny feeling it may not wait that long...
Sorry for singling out anyone too but it just makes it easier to write...
Koz and a few others don't want to have any "official" structure to these rides. They're scared if that happens the laxed attitude will be lost and the fun will go.
Murray and a few others reckon a small group can do all the route planning with imput and suggestions from others if they want. This will take the load off people that have been doing most of the work (Koz mainly). From what I've seen in the past, this is actually whats been happening with Koz adding it in the calendar.
Ian is by himself and thinks 1 person from the previous week sorts the route and also leads. If they don't want to that's fine, they can pass the flag on. This is quite a cool idea in the way that pretty much everyone can suggest a route they think will be cool and can lead if they want. Newbies will probably skip on this one (which is fine).
Wysper things we should go commando like the good 'ole days and wing the routes after a general discussion as been made about destination over brekky.
The main points to remember:
- we are not formal and this is why we are known as Laxed out riders
- any talk of committee is meant in the most informal way i.e. 4 or so people sitting down over a beer trying to work out where they shall thrill the rest of us (dodgyness unintended)
- not everyone needs to be consulted on route. No one has in the past so why start? Only a few have voiced opinions and that's cool.
- These are not rides to specifically learn on (I'll set these up later) but are rides to chill with good people and enjoy the roads. You can ask people advice and they'll give it but always remember just to enjoy the road.
My view, there does need to be some "structure" to make sure no one gets caught with all the work. Be it, a small and informal group of people who know the roads or 1 rider picking and leading.
I think a bit of both would be cool. A group does the majority of planning. If someone wants us to do something different they tell the group to have a week off and do take us where they want. If you want to have input, suggest it to the group, or join it.
If I've pissed anyone off...tough :) But I thought it needed to be outlined so it can either be sorted now and finalised at drinkies on the 6th or discussed and finalised on the 6th.
Carry on
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 15:21
I just reckon we should keep it simple, i don't mind drawing the maps, i quite like it actually, i don't mind doing the calendar appt either. I do go to a great deal of effort here because i want to, no one asked me to but i want to because its nice to give something back.
It pisses me off when i go to the trouble of doing a whole pile of stuff and my efforts are met with diminishing crap.
Taking the piss and normal banter about the colour of bikes is all good :)
I still think the best thing to do is maintain discussions on routes between everyone, maybe whoever suggests one first is put on the calendar as "tentative" early in the week and then see if anyone has suggestions by friday.
Truth be told there's only a handful of people who have anything to do with the routes anyways, most people are just happy to turn up and go for a ride.
(hence my suggestion to have a seperate thread for planning)
davesh
27th November 2008, 16:34
Just my 2 cents, i enjoyed your ride last week for several reasons.
It was simple, ie follow the leader , no one egotistical, a great bunch of like minded guys who love riding and encouraging others to do the same, some one was always keeping an eye on the others to make sure they were coming along, :cool:
This group has its own uniqueness (?)
i will be back for more rides because of this.
You could always keep a print of the maps so you could refer back to them and vary them on the day, there are alot of nice places to stop around NZ and we all have favorites, if you have one give it to the guys that post the rides and share them with the rest.
Am hoping to be on the kawhia run but are taking a ride down to Westport next thursday if not there have a good one :beer:
OH and my 5 month old grandson occaisionally brings up green stuff does that mean hes a Ninja :whistle:
:banana::banana:
HACHET
27th November 2008, 16:53
I just reckon we should keep it simple, i don't mind drawing the maps, i quite like it actually, i don't mind doing the calendar appt either. I do go to a great deal of effort here because i want to, no one asked me to but i want to because its nice to give something back.
It pisses me off when i go to the trouble of doing a whole pile of stuff and my efforts are met with diminishing crap.
Taking the piss and normal banter about the colour of bikes is all good :)
I still think the best thing to do is maintain discussions on routes between everyone, maybe whoever suggests one first is put on the calendar as "tentative" early in the week and then see if anyone has suggestions by friday.
Truth be told there's only a handful of people who have anything to do with the routes anyways, most people are just happy to turn up and go for a ride.
(hence my suggestion to have a seperate thread for planning)
I think you do a good job with what you do for the group with the planning of routes etc. I would like to help but being a pom i dont know the area well enough but i will try and give suggestions when i can: im the first to admitt im one of those gits who just rocks up and goes for a ride with a bunch of like minded good for a laugh people and i appreciate everyone who turns up because without all of us i would not be as much fun
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 17:04
I think you do a good job with what you do for the group with the planning of routes etc. I would like to help but being a pom i dont know the area well enough but i will try and give suggestions when i can:2thumbsup
Thanks dude :)
Brooke
27th November 2008, 17:28
Coming from a perspective of being at the rear (cut the gutter thinking you lot!) I know that on the day I don't really mind where we are going, don't really care in detail about the directions (turn left here, right there, past this etc - coz I'll just forget them anyway!) Like what Ian said, I am just happy to turn up as I don't know the roads around here and I will never be up the front leading, so as long as I have an idea of where we are going, where we are stopping for coffee/lunch etc and if there is a turn off people wait for the group to catch up etc that sweet with me.
I guess because there are so many people that tag along we might need a bit of structure but i vote (if this is what we are doing with all this discussion) to go with the K.I.S theory - keep it simple. Someone has an idea and roll with it. I wouldn't imagine too many people wouldn't want to go on a particular ride just because of the desitnation, coz like we all seem to be saying, we just like to go on a ride with other like minded people, and the destination is just the bonus.
At the end of the day, I'll just "follow the leader".
And one other thing..... you all rock, I love meeting up and spending time with you ALL and also think it would be cool if we could have the odd sivvy dinner etc every now and then (seeing as we are missing out on the 6th (ckai (cameron) and I)
Brooke
27th November 2008, 17:33
New Plymouth ride looks wicked as too, would be keen for that, will be in New Plymouth for Americarna so I would love to do it the week following that to have a decent break.
And if I pluck up the guts (I'm such a pussy (and not much of a girl either as you can tell from my delightful language!)) to tell my parent's I've got a bike, if they haven't disowned me, they might put up their lawn too!
Sidewinder
27th November 2008, 17:55
this all seems to be getting pretty complicated from what started as a pretty simple idea.
Koz is trying pretty hard to keep things going and working for everyone.
Maybe we do what we did for the first one.
Pick a destination. Choose a route on the day. Choose a leader on the day.
Have fun.
For me - I like the idea of starting at a cafe. Have a coffee, bit of a chat about which way we can go, and then go. Paddy knows heaps of great roads and is a fantastic leader of the ride. Koz has been doing great work making sure everyones voice is heard.
Me, I am a lazy prick, sarcastic and don't know shit about riding or what roads are out there so am happy to go with the flow.
I enjoy the piss taking but it can be demoralising when all you are trying to do is make a fun day out for everyone. I am pretty guilty of pisstaking.. cant help myself. But can understand that it makes a job much harder.
I don't go on the rides to learn I go on the rides for fun and a day out with like minded people. I will go to track days to learn or quietly approach someone I have respect for personally and respect for the skills I see them with. So for me this is more about a fun time. If it gets all bogged down in politics and talk of management etc.. you can count me out.
Thanks for reading
Your normal transmission will now resume.
spot on dude. The 1st one was the best one in my mind.
Maybe the rest would of been as good if mjscopio had came on them aswell...............
Owell peace out and will see you guys one i put the engine back together on the road eaten gsxr.......
cars suck!!!
slofox
27th November 2008, 18:03
Got my Oregon ATC2K today (from Torpedo7)......
Question: What kind of sd card has anyone used? Any particular type needed?
32Mb internal is as much use as TOAB...51 seconds...fooooooooo...
2 wheel madness
27th November 2008, 18:49
are you going down on the 'pril or the race bike?
Was going to take both, PMCC have a race meet on the 1.3km track on the same day but.......... took the 400 out for a blat around the back roads on sunday (all legal of course :whistle:) and got home to find a leaking fork seal so aprilia it is:headbang:
jmk
27th November 2008, 18:58
Coming from a perspective of being at the rear (cut the gutter thinking you lot!) I know that on the day I don't really mind where we are going, don't really care in detail about the directions (turn left here, right there, past this etc - coz I'll just forget them anyway!) Like what Ian said, I am just happy to turn up as I don't know the roads around here and I will never be up the front leading, so as long as I have an idea of where we are going, where we are stopping for coffee/lunch etc and if there is a turn off people wait for the group to catch up etc that sweet with me.
I guess because there are so many people that tag along we might need a bit of structure but i vote (if this is what we are doing with all this discussion) to go with the K.I.S theory - keep it simple. Someone has an idea and roll with it. I wouldn't imagine too many people wouldn't want to go on a particular ride just because of the desitnation, coz like we all seem to be saying, we just like to go on a ride with other like minded people, and the destination is just the bonus.
At the end of the day, I'll just "follow the leader".
And one other thing..... you all rock, I love meeting up and spending time with you ALL and also think it would be cool if we could have the odd sivvy dinner etc every now and then (seeing as we are missing out on the 6th (ckai (cameron) and I)
What she said ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ :girlfight: us girls have to stay together
Squid
27th November 2008, 20:00
Wow I leave you's alone for 2 days and theres a uprising and ya overthrow the powers that be. :shit:
Like Ian (TL1000s) I just show up for a feed and a ride with "da bros" (sorry brooke and whatthe??)
See ya'll at the charity ride sunday
....OH and my 5 month old grandson occaisionally brings up green stuff does that mean hes a Ninja :whistle:
:banana::banana:
Yeah for sure a ninja if ever I heard of one!!!! :done:
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 20:38
New Plymouth ride looks wicked as too, would be keen for that, will be in New Plymouth for Americarna so I would love to do it the week following that to have a decent break.
And if I pluck up the guts (I'm such a pussy (and not much of a girl either as you can tell from my delightful language!)) to tell my parent's I've got a bike, if they haven't disowned me, they might put up their lawn too!
Sounds like an excellent trip :) will have to sus out the dates closer to the time although it might look a little weird my Japanese sports bike spitting fire with the american choppers :whistle: i will have to brief the family down there but i expect things would be all good anyways.
spot on dude. The 1st one was the best one in my mind.
Maybe the rest would of been as good if mjscopio had came on them aswell...............
Owell peace out and will see you guys one i put the engine back together on the road eaten gsxr.......
cars suck!!!
1st one was great, but we got too many people now for the "lets go..... LEFT!! and then.... umm RIGHT!" planning having a destination in mind works good :) too
MJ wont be too far away.
Got my Oregon ATC2K today (from Torpedo7)......
Question: What kind of sd card has anyone used? Any particular type needed?
32Mb internal is as much use as TOAB...51 seconds...fooooooooo...
Try not to buy cheap memory cards, i got some transend ones that work a treat. Main thing to look at is the write speed of the card, the higher the write speed, the better.
The quality of the card itself is really important because i have lost photo's and had to repair a damaged video or 2 (good thing i am a nerd) from crappy cards that have been doubled - wont go into it - the $30 - $40 mark for an SD card is good or flasher.
HTH
slofox
27th November 2008, 21:28
Try not to buy cheap memory cards, i got some transend ones that work a treat. Main thing to look at is the write speed of the card, the higher the write speed, the better.
The quality of the card itself is really important because i have lost photo's and had to repair a damaged video or 2 (good thing i am a nerd) from crappy cards that have been doubled - wont go into it - the $30 - $40 mark for an SD card is good or flasher.
HTH
PB Tech have Apacer 60x for a mere $17.00...........OK? (Their Transcends are about the same price.....)
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 21:40
PB Tech have Apacer 60x for a mere $17.00...........OK? (Their Transcends are about the same price.....)
I wouldn't buy a thing from PB tech :) i got the trancend gold one for about $100 (4gb) and it was marked "for video" its about sustained data rates. the cheaper brands quote the Max data rate.
slofox
27th November 2008, 21:53
I wouldn't buy a thing from PB tech :) i got the trancend gold one for about $100 (4gb) and it was marked "for video" its about sustained data rates. the cheaper brands quote the Max data rate.
Welllllllll - I have had pretty reasonable dealings with PB - coupla computers that have all gone fine.....graphics cards, power supplies etc.....no probs so far and that goes back several years now......but then you probably know more than I do about them huh?
Will check out the cards when I look tomorrow. Just a little eager to get the camera rolling....
BTW - what do you use the 4Gb card in? My ATC2K only handles 2Gb....the 3k will do 4 but is a little out of price range just now....besides the novelty will probably wear off before too long and I will have to buy another new toy......dammit
mister.koz
27th November 2008, 22:24
Welllllllll - I have had pretty reasonable dealings with PB - coupla computers that have all gone fine.....graphics cards, power supplies etc.....no probs so far and that goes back several years now......but then you probably know more than I do about them huh?
Will check out the cards when I look tomorrow. Just a little eager to get the camera rolling....
BTW - what do you use the 4Gb card in? My ATC2K only handles 2Gb....the 3k will do 4 but is a little out of price range just now....besides the novelty will probably wear off before too long and I will have to buy another new toy......dammit
I have had years of dealings with pbtech, but its up to you perhaps you have better luck.
Its a bit off topic but allot of the cheap 2gb cards are actually 1gb ones that have been doubled and it shows when you push them by writing info quickly like video or like my canon camera does, currupt files etc etc.
My other video camera takes up to 16gb cards, was going to suggest one of you guys buy my atc2k of me but thats cool, they are very cool little camera's i have uses for it still :)
WhatThe???
28th November 2008, 06:33
well that was yet another interesting read :) so from that I take it you guys are keeping things simple now (not that I noticed before) good on ya's. Once again I totally agree with Brooke. But really im just adding a bit of blah to let you know that we do read the thread lol. I can say for sure that Dave will just follow whoever but you know him he will add his 2cents :)
ckai
28th November 2008, 06:49
My other video camera takes up to 16gb cards, was going to suggest one of you guys buy my atc2k of me but thats cool, they are very cool little camera's i have uses for it still :)
Well, see you're too slow off the mark. Should should have let everyone know and you could have made an easy sale. And I can't believe you only just worked out who I was!! :)
well that was yet another interesting read :) so from that I take it you guys are keeping things simple now (not that I noticed before) good on ya's. Once again I totally agree with Brooke. But really im just adding a bit of blah to let you know that we do read the thread lol. I can say for sure that Dave will just follow whoever but you know him he will add his 2cents :)
Yip we're keeping it simple. If it ain't broke...
It's gonna be a lot more streamlined in the future and easier to put your 2 cents in for route selection. There are going to be some really great changes and I'm sure you'll all agree, once we get used to them, that we'll really going to start making things happen.
LOL I adapted the above from my "changes for the better" speech for when everyone gets fired due to downsizing.
But the first line is true (if you talk out the bullocks)
TerminalAddict
28th November 2008, 07:45
......was going to suggest one of you guys buy my atc2k of me but thats cool, they are very cool little camera's i have uses for it still :)
name the price ... or PM me ;)
Murray
28th November 2008, 08:11
leading up to Xmas we have Charity ride this Sunday, Kawhia next Sunday and looking at Coro on 21st. I have an idea for the 14th and will discuss with koz and then we are pretty set to New years. I/we have been looking at the New plymouth trip for a while and were planning to go down during the week before Auckland Anniversary. maybe we can make it that weekend so the Mondays off work as well.
mister.koz
28th November 2008, 09:15
Lets leave the 14th till we get closer. There's no need to plan it this far ahead. lets keep the whole thing "laxed out"
Of course we need to plan out longer trips like the coro loop or a trip to taranaki.
Mr. Rock
28th November 2008, 09:31
goodness.. politics..
my eyes are hurting..
we just all need a beer. haha
mister.koz
28th November 2008, 09:38
goodness.. politics..
my eyes are hurting..
we just all need a beer. haha
My thoughts exactly, lets keep it simple.
mister.koz
28th November 2008, 09:39
name the price ... or PM me ;)
Sorry dude, was taken before i read the post. If the deal falls through you will be the first :)
Mr. Rock
28th November 2008, 09:39
and i like the plan it on the day.. tho really i dont dabble in the route planning so really my input on that is void i just show up for the ride..
:devil2: PLANNING IS THE DEVIL!! :devil2:
look what its doing to us haha
Murray
28th November 2008, 10:47
Lets leave the 14th till we get closer. There's no need to plan it this far ahead. lets keep the whole thing "laxed out"
Of course we need to plan out longer trips like the coro loop or a trip to taranaki.
Un bloody believable. you want it - you don't - you want someone to organise - you don't - you want someone to suggest - you don't
All I said was i had an idea I would like to discuss re the 14th (as its free)
how the hell is this unlaxed
I give up. I will just turn up on the day from now on!!!!!!
mister.koz
28th November 2008, 10:54
Un bloody believable. you want it - you don't - you want someone to organise - you don't - you want someone to suggest - you don't
All I said was i had an idea I would like to discuss re the 14th (as its free)
how the hell is this unlaxed
I give up. I will just turn up on the day from now on!!!!!!
Jesus, chill out.
The response from pretty much everyone here was to keep it as it is and keep it simple, hell some people even suggested no planning at all.
I was saying its more than 2 weeks away better off thinking about it later.
No need to blow a blood vessel.
slofox
28th November 2008, 11:32
I have had years of dealings with pbtech, but its up to you perhaps you have better luck.
Its a bit off topic but allot of the cheap 2gb cards are actually 1gb ones that have been doubled and it shows when you push them by writing info quickly like video or like my canon camera does, currupt files etc etc.
My other video camera takes up to 16gb cards, was going to suggest one of you guys buy my atc2k of me but thats cool, they are very cool little camera's i have uses for it still :)
Well I shelled out a whole $10.10 for an Apacer card and initial tests seem OK. I figure for that money there is no great loss if I have to replace it......stay tuned for updates as they come to hand.......
mister.koz
28th November 2008, 12:15
Well I shelled out a whole $10.10 for an Apacer card and initial tests seem OK. I figure for that money there is no great loss if I have to replace it......stay tuned for updates as they come to hand.......
Cool, well if it works go for it man, its just a gamble, i have had 3/8 cheap memory cards die or loose photos i can't get back... bloody annoying!
mister.koz
28th November 2008, 12:36
PS - something of interest - cheerz wysper :)
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=87075
WhatThe???
28th November 2008, 13:23
PS - something of interest - cheerz wysper :)
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=87075
oooooo....isnt that the place with the motorbike simulater??? fun fun :P
mister.koz
28th November 2008, 13:25
oooooo....isnt that the place with the motorbike simulater??? fun fun :P
I totally misread that as "motorbike stimulator" :crazy: oops.
WhatThe???
28th November 2008, 13:48
I totally misread that as "motorbike stimulator" :crazy: oops.
LOL!!! to be honest thats what I put, but noticed thank god hehe id never hear the end of that
slofox
28th November 2008, 14:31
LOL!!! to be honest thats what I put, but noticed thank god hehe id never hear the end of that
Classic line from a movie I saw many years ago - the name of which escapes me now.....hang on it was "The Killing of Sister George".........delivered by a "lady of mature years...." - Sister George herself....
"You'd look happy too with 150cc's throbbing away between your legs......."
HACHET
28th November 2008, 16:57
With all the shit slinging going on no one will want to go on the rides soon i for 1 am happy with the way things are at the moment if the guys who come up with the routes are happy to continue then thats cool and i appreciate your efforts as that is why i enjoy riding with all you guys and girls (can't forget the girls ) when i first came along i had the impression that the idea was to turn up decide where to go then get on the bikes and just go for a ride cool idea as we all know politics f*cks everything up, as the saying goes (If it aint broke dont fix it)lets just have fun
Brooke
28th November 2008, 18:22
PS - something of interest - cheerz wysper :)
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=87075
I saw this thread but I'm confused, used to work in Cambridge and I have never seen this place but thought it sounded good. Anyone ave any idea where it is?
PaddyFZ1
28th November 2008, 18:30
I saw this thread but I'm confused, used to work in Cambridge and I have never seen this place but thought it sounded good. Anyone ave any idea where it is?
RPM Bar used to be Kelly Browns
Brooke
29th November 2008, 07:04
RPM Bar used to be Kelly Browns
Ah ha, now I get it, Thanks Paddy. Is it still owned by the same guy that had Kelly Browns?
PaddyFZ1
29th November 2008, 07:52
Ah ha, now I get it, Thanks Paddy. Is it still owned by the same guy that had Kelly Browns?
No it has different owners, and they are bikers.
Murray
29th November 2008, 07:55
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4756200a6415.html
FYI re owners. Pity it never opened Sundays
wysper
29th November 2008, 08:02
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4756200a6415.html
FYI re owners. Pity it never opened Sundays
Thats a shame. I hope another biker buys it!
mister.koz
29th November 2008, 10:08
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4756200a6415.html
FYI re owners. Pity it never opened Sundays
Yeah whats with that? not open sundays?? sheesh!
Geeen
29th November 2008, 11:14
:Offtopic:http://www.temanawa.co.nz/motorcycles-unleashed.html
Me & the pillion in a million are guna go check this out during th hols, thought some of you fullas/fulleses might be interested. Is anyone but wysper taking sprogs to the cock & bull?? My other half is guna come with my 2. Catch you lot tomorrow.:chase:
WhatThe???
29th November 2008, 11:52
hehe sooo goin to the RPM one day soon :)
yay me! I went for my first proper ride today, by myself. Even found 4th gear lolz. Gave my sis heart faliure while I was at it mwahahaha....
jmk
29th November 2008, 12:03
: Is anyone but wysper taking sprogs to the cock & bull?? My other half is guna come with my 2. Catch you lot tomorrow.:chase:
We could be we not going too :Oops:
slofox
29th November 2008, 13:00
Cool, well if it works go for it man, its just a gamble, i have had 3/8 cheap memory cards die or loose photos i can't get back... bloody annoying!
Ran the camera through Scotsman Valley Road this morning and back through Tauhora Road.......worked OK with the cheap card. Worst problem is the time it takes to upload to the computer......zzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzz...:zzzz: I think I could improve my wing mirror mount system a little - lots of vibration which does not help pic quality. However, on the plus side, the audio captures the V-Twin rumble very nicely..hehehe specially when the revs climb a little......not that I do a lot of that of course......
ckai
29th November 2008, 13:53
Ran the camera through Scotsman Valley Road this morning and back through Tauhora Road.......worked OK with the cheap card. Worst problem is the time it takes to upload to the computer......zzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzz...:zzzz: I think I could improve my wing mirror mount system a little - lots of vibration which does not help pic quality. However, on the plus side, the audio captures the V-Twin rumble very nicely..hehehe specially when the revs climb a little......not that I do a lot of that of course......
wicked. Now we can have different angles of rides and everything. I'll give Speilberg a call...
:wari:
slofox
29th November 2008, 13:55
wicked. Now we can have different angles of rides and everything. I'll give Speilberg a call...
:wari:
Don't think he would be up to the job myself.......might need someone better....
mister.koz
29th November 2008, 19:03
hehe sooo goin to the RPM one day soon :)
yay me! I went for my first proper ride today, by myself. Even found 4th gear lolz. Gave my sis heart faliure while I was at it mwahahaha....
Wicked! nice going, did it feel good? did you get your licence?
Ran the camera through Scotsman Valley Road this morning and back through Tauhora Road.......worked OK with the cheap card. Worst problem is the time it takes to upload to the computer......zzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzz...:zzzz: I think I could improve my wing mirror mount system a little - lots of vibration which does not help pic quality. However, on the plus side, the audio captures the V-Twin rumble very nicely..hehehe specially when the revs climb a little......not that I do a lot of that of course......
Very cool, yeah vibration is a problem aye...
wicked. Now we can have different angles of rides and everything. I'll give Speilberg a call...
:wari:
We will probably end up with more video than we know what to do with :D
jmk
29th November 2008, 20:05
Dont forget the ride in the morning, should be a another brilliant day for riding :wari::wari::wari:
Geeen
30th November 2008, 17:54
Is anyone thinking of doing the teddy bear run on the 14th??
jmk
30th November 2008, 18:35
Is anyone thinking of doing the teddy bear run on the 14th??
No is day after a work do LOL :beer: and sister in laws 40th, sounds like a good ride though
Hey good piccys from this morning :niceone: Does anyone else have any to share and also the website where the other ones were going to be downloaded to
mister.koz
30th November 2008, 23:04
We headed out in the blistering sun down te-rapa straight at a fairly leisurely pace with kawhia in mind, after a bit of throttle symphony at pukete we headed out te-kowhai road and cruizing down ol' 39 we rounded up to the (regular stopping place) cafe in pirongia and as i desired a coffee and a stop - purely by habit - everyone took off again.. nope, turns out they don't stop there??? Anyways, we took off to kawhia on slightly tacky tar and fill and once there (see my album) it took 4 photos to capture about 41 bikes! was bloody great!
After baking sufficiently we blitzed off in search of hamilton across a small river of tar and chiped stones with the promise of a barbecue and dreams of icebergs leading the ride back, i had to stop for gas (:third:) so we were near the end for a while. There were reports of a tail-gating, blind passing, cutting off, nissan driving prick of a cage on the way back, we didn't get the number plate unfortunately.
Bryce and i landed at the school (too hot to ride so i got the car) and settled for a barbecue and a play on the swings - :eek::eek:
All in all a successful day and a whole lot of people out on the road, was bloody cool.
There was a guy on a gravel corner who caught some really good photo's of quite a few bikes so I will have a look into how to get the photo's tomorrow, its probably going to be a donation to get the really high quality ones which i think is fair.
Anyways, because the ride today (probably yesterday now) was to kawhia murray and i reckoned it would be silly to do it all again next weekend so we thought of murray's plan of going central to rotovegas and checking out the lakes, the idea is to ride to and swim in the blue lake when we get there. Its probably about 350km loop :yes:
Its now late enough to be considered early so i am off to bed.
PS. politics gone, using the pub instead.:apint:
Koz
ckai
1st December 2008, 06:41
We headed out in the blistering sun down te-rapa straight at a fairly leisurely pace with kawhia in mind, after a bit of throttle symphony at pukete we headed out te-kowhai road and cruizing down ol' 39 we rounded up to the (regular stopping place) cafe in pirongia and as i desired a coffee and a stop - purely by habit - everyone took off again.. nope, turns out they don't stop there??? Anyways, we took off to kawhia on slightly tacky tar and fill and once there (see my album) it took 4 photos to capture about 41 bikes! was bloody great!
...
Its now late enough to be considered early so i am off to bed.
PS. politics gone, using the pub instead.:apint:
Koz
Cheers for the report Koz, I was hoping someone would put something up. Was wondering if you guys were feeling the heat up here. Imagine what it would have been like for us going hard around a track!!
Apparently it was meant to get 26 degrees yesterday but I reckon it sneaked up there a little hotter. We had some of the laxed out crew representing in every group on the HMCC Track Day yesterday. In my group (Grade C) I was swamped by chicks on 250 ninja's. One of them had only been riding since Friday!! Like I said it her, this is the best place to ride.
I dunno about the other two that went (Paddy, Kane) but I found it bloody good and made some big improvements. It was only the little things I had to improve on but it makes a big difference. Cruising home, I was going faster around corners while thinking I was going slower. It was definitely the best way to get introduced to a track day. I only wish it could chop some time off my licence. Learnt more there then I would on a cage course.
In our grade, the big bikes (600+) got suggested to that they should check their mirrors in case us little guys were behind them. They would hold us up on the corners then blitz us on the straights. :angry: So they were told to move over and let us past.
The last session was interesting (3 sessions in all on the track I think - 110km!). Since the majority of people had gone home, it was a free-for-all instead of seperated by grades. So 2 of us 250's blat on the track with a majority from grade A ("racers"). That got interesting getting flown past around corners you thought you were going nuts on.
All in all awesome day, and I wish they had similar days all the time (classroom, practical, track time). I agree it's the best way to learn and improve skills :Punk:
jmk
1st December 2008, 07:02
Great day was had my many of us yesterday, probably a bit weight lost with the sweat that came out too!!! Think there is a few of us that would like to have a few words with that twit in the Nissan, couldnt believe it when I saw him behind us coming home after finding out what he was like going to Kawhia.
The photos are going to be downloaded later in the week to http://www.hamnorth.school.nz/
Brooke
1st December 2008, 09:02
Sounds like a good day was had by all yesterday.
I am down in the Naki (New Plymouth for those of you who don't know what that is) and the road was a bloddy mess yesterday, heaps of road works etc so hopefully that will be cleared up by Feb if we do a big ride.
FIANLLY broke the news to the parents yesterday about me having bikes Dad (my biggest worry) was sweet and Mum wasn't too bad (coz I planted it on them when they had some friends here!!!!!) so that is all good. Even got some people down here to ride with which is cool.
Saw stacks of people on bikes on the road yesterday and felt sorry for them, there must have been road works 1/4 of the way here, real messy but the road needs it as it was in a bad way and some of it still is.
Hope you all have a great night this weekend, still gutted we won't be there so we'll have to do another night before long.
slofox
1st December 2008, 10:37
Totally enjoyed the run to Kawhia yesterday...pity I had to leave early for the return and could not do the school thing afterwards......actually, just as well I was on my own coming back considering what happened in one particular corner......nothing too bad - just a little embarrassing is all.....cough cough.
'Tis a great ride that one - one of the best I have done so far. Must repeat the performance one day soon.
jmk
1st December 2008, 10:43
Totally enjoyed the run to Kawhia yesterday...pity I had to leave early for the return and could not do the school thing afterwards......actually, just as well I was on my own coming back considering what happened in one particular corner......nothing too bad - just a little embarrassing is all.....cough cough.
Go on spit it out - what did you do or is that didnt do LOL :shutup:
mister.koz
1st December 2008, 10:44
Cheers for the report Koz, I was hoping someone would put something up. Was wondering if you guys were feeling the heat up here. Imagine what it would have been like for us going hard around a track!!
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All in all awesome day, and I wish they had similar days all the time (classroom, practical, track time). I agree it's the best way to learn and improve skills :Punk:
Alright you've done it, i am now amped for the track :) still gotta wait till mid jan but will see how we go :)
ckai
1st December 2008, 11:56
Go on spit it out - what did you do or is that didnt do LOL :shutup:
Agree, you put your foot in it now you have to spill the beans.
Alright you've done it, i am now amped for the track :) still gotta wait till mid jan but will see how we go :)
Put it this way, I've found a new way to spend money! I'm trolling through everything trying to find out when the next ones are. I will have to be careful because I may run out of money to buy another bike next year :shit:
I was contemplating doing the pukky one in a few weeks time but it's not the track for the little 250. And the fun part of riding a bike is the corners so I'll stick with the twisty tracks (until I get a grown up bike :))
slofox
1st December 2008, 12:45
Go on spit it out - what did you do or is that didnt do LOL :shutup:
Oh....well.......was going along just fine in the twisties just out of Kawhia and all of a sudden overcooked an entry - loose metal all over the road (resealed) didn't have enough room to brake sufficiently.....saw the road round the corner was clear (just as friggin' well!!) and ended up stopped on the wrong side of the road......."used the runoff...." :Pokey: rather as I used to do at The Levels, Timaru in the olden days.....
mister.koz
1st December 2008, 13:02
Oh....well.......was going along just fine in the twisties just out of Kawhia and all of a sudden overcooked an entry - loose metal all over the road (resealed) didn't have enough room to brake sufficiently.....saw the road round the corner was clear (just as friggin' well!!) and ended up stopped on the wrong side of the road......."used the runoff...." :Pokey: rather as I used to do at The Levels, Timaru in the olden days.....
:blink: crikey, could have been worse dude, glad you kept yourself and your bike off the road!
slofox
1st December 2008, 14:28
Vid clip from return from Kawhia on Sunday 30th. Quality not great...need a better mounting system......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lNY5FsMy9g
mister.koz
1st December 2008, 14:33
Vid clip from return from Kawhia on Sunday 30th. Quality not great...need a better mounting system......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lNY5FsMy9g
hehe 2 mins 5 in :) i see your corner!
Murray
1st December 2008, 14:43
looks like another rider for the group coming up.
Wifes been out shopping and on the phone arranging finance now
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Cruiser//auction-138765909.htm
scarey shit!!!!!!!
TerminalAddict
1st December 2008, 14:43
@slofox: interesting recovery :D
mister.koz
1st December 2008, 14:46
looks like another rider for the group coming up.
Wifes been out shopping and on the phone arranging finance now
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Cruiser//auction-138765909.htm
scarey shit!!!!!!!
Very nice :) be great to have another bike along.
She's got the benefit of a HUGE carpark to practice in too :wari:
slofox
1st December 2008, 14:52
hehe 2 mins 5 in :) i see your corner!
Errrrr...yes...coughcough...:rolleyes:.....probabl y coulda got through but just tightened up a little.....figured discretion/valour etc etc. Hate those stones on the road.....No more probs any further on though. Loved the road - ace ride, that.....!:love:
mister.koz - how does your vid compare in quality? This stuff looks real jerky to me....
Warr
1st December 2008, 15:04
Vid clip from return from Kawhia on Sunday 30th. ......
Ohh.. and we get to see it all as well...
mmm... More commitment required :) :)
@Murray, Fine looking Cruiser there.. Good luck with the purchase :)
mister.koz
1st December 2008, 15:06
Errrrr...yes...coughcough...:rolleyes:.....probabl y coulda got through but just tightened up a little.....figured discretion/valour etc etc. Hate those stones on the road.....No more probs any further on though. Loved the road - ace ride, that.....!:love:
mister.koz - how does your vid compare in quality? This stuff looks real jerky to me....
Yeah i had a couple of bits where i knew my tire was not so happy on the loose tar, reckon it will be sweet for february rides by that time the seal should have settled.
The video quality is hard to guage on youtube cause youtube is kinda meant to be poo for copyright reasons. the atc2k is meant for push bike helmets so its not awesome but it does give a good view of riding style mainly entry/exit breaking and throttle in the corners which is what i want it for.
slofox
1st December 2008, 15:43
Ohh.. and we get to see it all as well...
mmm... More commitment required :) :)
"we get to see it all as well..." Consider yourselves privileged.......!!!!
"More commitment required" Exactly so.....:baby: but then again, it felt all wrong on approach..:Oops::Oops::Oops:..the commitment needed to be earlier in the piece. By the time I had effed it up I was gonna cross the centre anyway.......rest of the ride was just fine.....learning never stops y'know....
ckai
1st December 2008, 15:46
looks like another rider for the group coming up.
Wifes been out shopping and on the phone arranging finance now
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Cruiser//auction-138765909.htm
scarey shit!!!!!!!
hahah it's all on now. I have to admit, they are a nice looking bike.
Errrrr...yes...coughcough...:rolleyes:.....probabl y coulda got through but just tightened up a little.....figured discretion/valour etc etc. Hate those stones on the road.....No more probs any further on though. Loved the road - ace ride, that.....!:love:
:clap: So did you find your contact in the gravel? Didn't you say you just had to pop over to that driveway to see if you could find it again ;) If someone wasn't paying attention watching the vid (like I was) and you didn't mention anything, you wouldn't know that was a screw up.
PaddyFZ1
1st December 2008, 15:48
Sounds like everyone had a good run out to Kawhia on Sunday.
I had a great time in Taupo, cant wait to have another go on a track.
Managed to use 15l of gas to go only 133km, only about 8km on the road. Left part of the bike on the track, scraping foot pegs on all the tight corners.
ckai
1st December 2008, 15:49
"we get to see it all as well..." Consider yourselves privileged.......!!!!
"More commitment required" Exactly so.....:baby: but then again, it felt all wrong on approach..:Oops::Oops::Oops:..the commitment needed to be earlier in the piece. By the time I had effed it up I was gonna cross the centre anyway.......rest of the ride was just fine.....learning never stops y'know....
Certainly lucky with the car though. What was your speed like? It didn't seem like you were going quick (which was a good thing), or is that just the camera?
slofox
1st December 2008, 16:06
:clap: So did you find your contact in the gravel? Didn't you say you just had to pop over to that driveway to see if you could find it again ;) If someone wasn't paying attention watching the vid (like I was) and you didn't mention anything, you wouldn't know that was a screw up.
Hehehe......I wish....
Certainly lucky with the car though. What was your speed like? It didn't seem like you were going quick (which was a good thing), or is that just the camera?
Nah - was not fast.....crappy road surfaces.....road eczema and loose.....left it too late....bad riding really....ought to know better than that......oh, and I had plenty of space with the car....
Brooke
1st December 2008, 20:08
looks like another rider for the group coming up.
Wifes been out shopping and on the phone arranging finance now
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Cruiser//auction-138765909.htm
scarey shit!!!!!!!
Hey Murray, I know this guys brother if you need any help with a good price I can help :) Well I'll try.... :)
mister.koz
1st December 2008, 23:16
Sounds like everyone had a good run out to Kawhia on Sunday.
I had a great time in Taupo, cant wait to have another go on a track.
Managed to use 15l of gas to go only 133km, only about 8km on the road. Left part of the bike on the track, scraping foot pegs on all the tight corners.
Wicked! Did they end up setting yer bike up for you?
I just put new lights on my bike, looks pretty swish now :D photo's soon.
Murray
2nd December 2008, 07:50
AArrrgggghhhh. The old catch 22 situation. Happy for you to have the money but you have to have a bike license. "but I need it to get a license" sorry!! Oh well put it in my husbands name "but he's already got a bike" well he can have two " no thats a bit strange and you will end up riding it" will thats the idea when I get my license!!!
would you like to buy another car????
mister.koz
2nd December 2008, 08:04
AArrrgggghhhh. The old catch 22 situation. Happy for you to have the money but you have to have a bike license. "but I need it to get a license" sorry!! Oh well put it in my husbands name "but he's already got a bike" well he can have two " no thats a bit strange and you will end up riding it" will thats the idea when I get my license!!!
would you like to buy another car????
Really? the finance company said that? thats gotta be bloody annoying! You don't have to have a licence to buy a bike...
jmk
2nd December 2008, 08:22
AArrrgggghhhh. The old catch 22 situation. Happy for you to have the money but you have to have a bike license. "but I need it to get a license" sorry!! Oh well put it in my husbands name "but he's already got a bike" well he can have two " no thats a bit strange and you will end up riding it" will thats the idea when I get my license!!!
would you like to buy another car????
I hope she gave them the :bash: and has tried somewhere else
jmk
2nd December 2008, 08:24
I just put new lights on my bike, looks pretty swish now :D photo's soon.
Will it go faster now :gob:
Murray
2nd December 2008, 08:38
Hey, just an idea but if a few of you guys are doing a track day at the same place on the same day I am sure a few (if not most) of the laxed out group would love to come and spend the day watching you guys. (would have loved watching Paddy scraping the pegs everywhere).
Keep us all informed of any track days members are going to!!!!
mister.koz
2nd December 2008, 08:54
Will it go faster now :gob:
Probably those sticky-outey indicators would have given it a bit of drag :)
Anyone interested in seeing the new lights:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=1176
Its not obvious until you look at the old photos (also in my albums)
Brooke
2nd December 2008, 09:15
Hey, just an idea but if a few of you guys are doing a track day at the same place on the same day I am sure a few (if not most) of the laxed out group would love to come and spend the day watching you guys. (would have loved watching Paddy scraping the pegs everywhere).
Keep us all informed of any track days members are going to!!!!
Hell yeah, I'd tag along. I really want to do what Cameron, Kane and Paddy did on Sunday, sounded awesome :yes:
Brooke
2nd December 2008, 09:19
AArrrgggghhhh. The old catch 22 situation. Happy for you to have the money but you have to have a bike license. "but I need it to get a license" sorry!! Oh well put it in my husbands name "but he's already got a bike" well he can have two " no thats a bit strange and you will end up riding it" will thats the idea when I get my license!!!
would you like to buy another car????
Screw a finance company Murray, go to the bank, they'll sort you out. (And you'll probably get a lower interest rate anyway (Sorry that's the banker in me talking:crazy:)). :pinch:
ckai
2nd December 2008, 09:46
Hey, just an idea but if a few of you guys are doing a track day at the same place on the same day I am sure a few (if not most) of the laxed out group would love to come and spend the day watching you guys. (would have loved watching Paddy scraping the pegs everywhere).
Keep us all informed of any track days members are going to!!!!
I never thought of this. And it might actually get some of you guys (and gals) hooked as well. To be honest I didn't think there was going to be that many of us down there. I knew Kane was gonna be there but not Paddy.
The road I took down was quite good as well (Old Taupo Road) apart from the Tokoroa - Taupo leg (SH 1). I've always loved that road. Couldn't go the Mangakino way due to it being closed in a section.
I'm actually looking at doing another one in January in Taupo when a mate comes back from overseas, if anyone else is keen to join us. It'll just be a normal track day (no classroom time like the one we just did).
Probably those sticky-outey indicators would have given it a bit of drag :)
Anyone interested in seeing the new lights:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=1176
Its not obvious until you look at the old photos (also in my albums)
FRIGGIN WICKED MAN :Punk: I normally don't get exited about add-ons for bikes but it's amazing how much cleaner it looks (didn't even need to look at the old photos). The front ones look nice and subtle and the rear looks a lot more like a race bike :D Dig it how it changes colour. Maybe I'll look at something like that for my next bike.
And for those of you that want to know what Koz' number plate is, it's
48...
LOL (If you're gonna blank out your plates you have to do it to all of them ;))
Why do people do this anyway?
mister.koz
2nd December 2008, 10:09
FRIGGIN WICKED MAN :Punk: I normally don't get exited about add-ons for bikes but it's amazing how much cleaner it looks (didn't even need to look at the old photos). The front ones look nice and subtle and the rear looks a lot more like a race bike :D Dig it how it changes colour. Maybe I'll look at something like that for my next bike.
Cheerz, yeah they really suit the bike aye, and they are totally legit too, passed all the NZ laws etc etc.
can't wait till i fab up a new tail section and get rid of the plastic once and for all :)
HACHET
2nd December 2008, 11:45
Probably those sticky-outey indicators would have given it a bit of drag :)
Anyone interested in seeing the new lights:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=1176
Its not obvious until you look at the old photos (also in my albums)
Bike looks much better
mister.koz
2nd December 2008, 12:01
Bike looks much better
thanks man :)
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